NOT STOPPING UNTIL I'M DONE | Welcome to the Game 2 - Part 6
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2024
- I'm literally not gonna stop playing Welcome to the Game 2 until the ENDING!!
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Mark, 47 minutes in: We're so close, we might get it this time!
Me, looking at the 4 hour video timeline: Mhm.
Allesef this actually made me LOL
Allesef mE
me: not looking at the timeline
noir jumpscare happens
me: almost has a heart attack
Allesef lol
yeah that was me too xD
For a hitman, Lucas has really loud shoes
Judging by the player character, everyone who sees Lucas apparently stops like a deer in headlights and lets him kill them, so does he really have to worry about sneaking?
you're right. he should really put on some sneakers
Do you speak from experience?
@@LordThulhu yeah but we can agree he is no arthur morgan
Should've sent Agent 47.
can you imagine being someone else in this hotel, just trying to watch some late night TV and your power keeps shutting off and turning back on
Bethany Kaylor "Don't worry, the idiot on the 8th floor will fix it."
@@nahfamimgood4094 don't worry I've seen that comment on another video
@@nahfamimgood4094 theres a power switch for each floor. This person would have to be on the same level. You wouldn't say " don't worry the idiot on the 8th floor would fix it" since you would also be on the 8th floor. You wouldn't refer someone as "the idiot on the 8th floor" because you would also be on the 8th floor and someone could refer to you as that even when your not the idiot but on the 8th floor.
Hannah VanArsdale "if only he'd stop stomping around too"
"Now the FBI is here for my neighbor, like always."
Imagine doing a 5000 piece puzzle and just as you’re about to place the last piece, somebody comes and jumbles up the puzzle. Now imagine that 10 times. Each time, you’re more familiar with where each piece goes but you get increasingly disinterested and angry and end up not bothering.
this is the perfect metaphor
@@angelsnaiilz agreed
Perfecto
And imagine it's a no edge puzzle with 5 extra pieces
@Fun With Minerals but you're supposed to be the one breaking it, making it and throwing it
Literally no one
XLegendaryPete: “ The chat is moving so fast that no will see that I’m gay”
@@alwayssleepy3223 true
Someone said the chat was gay as well.
The person who said it was Oceanz
when and where
@@chief_kief3648 2:41:23
Mark seems upset. Let’s try and lift his spirits with a controlled shock.
This actually made me chuckle. 👍🏼
nah, just chug him with ghost pepper
Ben B underrated comment
Mark seems like he’s talking the day off. Let’s motivate him with a controlled shock.
That should be fun...
Mark: “things are going too well, I don’t feel confident with this”
Me: *sees the video is 4 hours long*
Me: “yeah me neither”
666 boi
Yes keep it like that
The death at 57:00 I legit had to rewind and go frame-by-frame when he was looking at the door and the window, because I was so bamboozled by the noir showing up. They weren't there. It was rigged. Fuck this game lol
I just did the same. Looked out both windows, tried to spot them in the dark of the apartment, nothing. It's complete bullshit lmao.
According to some other comments I’ve seen it most likely was actually rigged lmao
@@cheerio1485 Yeah I've looked into it and it looks like the dev was probably actively fucking with mark lol. very shitty
The devs absolutely fucked with him throughout this series. Probs cuz they were angry that Mark didn't like it. (Rightfully so, this game is bs)
@@gigi1467 How could they fuck with a singleplayer offline game?
JUMPSCARES
most of the hacks aren't scary 'cause it was just Mark making himself be hacked
9:57 - Hack
15:02 - Hack
20:18 - Power out
23:03 - Hack
31:30 - Hack
33:10 - Power out
33:47 - Hack
36:25 - Hack
38:26 - Hack
39:32 - Noir at the window
39:56 - Hack
41:56 - Hack
43:34 - Hack
48:03 - Hack
48:57 - Power out
49:00 - Noir behind Mark
51:00 - No jumpscare, you're safe
56:51 - Noir attacks (game over)
1:05:14 - Hack
1:10:52 - Baby, baby, baby page (not too creepy)
1:12:04 - Hack
1:15:18 - Power out
1:18:01 - Hack
1:26:20 - Noir at the balcony
1:29:09 - Power out
1:30:11 - Hack
1:31:36 - Hack
1:33:06 - Hack
1:34:23 - Hack
1:43:41 - Eye page (not scary but seeing Mark anxious gave me small jumpscare lol)
1:44:40 - Hack
1:46:12 - Power out
1:46:15 - Noir behind
1:47:07 - Not a jumpscare but Momiplier calling~
1:50:33 - Lucas is here, brace yourselves
1:53:56 - Noir attacks (gameover part 2)
2:06:13 - Hack
2:09:14 - Hack
2:11:14 - Hack
2:11:53 - Long "NOOO" from Mark
lol
2:12:57 - Hack
2:14:18 - Hack
2:15:43 - Hack
2:17:11 - Hack
2:18:23 - Hack
2:19:15 - Power out
2:19:39 - Noir at the entrance
2:20:03 - Hack
2:26:13 - Vacation page (very loud)
2:27:50 - Creepy face yelling ¿? (loud)
2:30:15 - Hack
2:33:44 - Power out
2:33:50 - Noir at hall
2:36:00 - Forgive me page (a bit loud)
2:37:06 - Hack
2:41:07 - Lucas came for Mark (gameoever part 3)
2:53:09 - Hack
2:54:21 - Hack
2:56:02 - Hack
2:57:24 - Hack
2:59:07 - Hack
3:00:26 - Hack
3:03:39 - Hack
3:07:06 - Hack
3:08:20 - Power out
3:09:34 - Hack
3:17:05 - Knock (?)
3:17:43 - Noir at the door
3:24:27 - Power out
3:24:55 - Noir
3:27:55 - Lucas and Mark playing hide and seek
3:29:35 - Mark abandoning us :(
3:33:29 - Hack
3:35:11 - Idk but just letting you know it's jumpscare free
3:37:40 - TO MUCH TENSION. THAT SCARED ME.
3:39:06 - Noir at the window
3:42:09 - Power out
3:42:11 - Noir behind Mark
3:45:49 - Mr Lucas again
3:49:28 - Vacation page (loud)
3:56:43 - Hack
4:00:51 - Brace yourselves...
4:02:18 - LUCAS. MARK HAVING A BREAKDOWN. (gameover part 4)
4:07:24 - Knock (?)
4:12:00 - Mark loses it
4:23:35 - Hack, even though he's not even playing LOL
4:24:46 - LOOK AT MARK xD
EDIT: Okay I finished edit this a few weeks later LOL. I agree with Mark, this game sucks and it's a waste of time :(
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LIKES. I'm so happy to have helped all of you!
SMAaAaAaASH OR SMOOSH THAT LIKE BUTTON FOR MARK, NOT THE GAME!!!
Why does this not have any likes... I appreciate you
Honestly
@@bigsquidward725 omg thank you so much, happy to help ;;
yo big preesh to you
🙌 Ty
I just binged all 17 hours of this series and the WAY my heart sunk when Mark got so close and Lucas killed him and I saw 30 min left.... Don't blame Mark for quitting. The game was pretty bullshit.
Yeah. Too much realistic mechanics leading to an absurdly difficult gameplay. And a bunch of saints here act like they've never raged on a game before.
to be fair allot of the problems mark had were updated and fixed after he played it~ it definitely was a super hard game but is probably my favorite lets play from mark.
Yes mine too and I've watched most of them. Binged this one. Frustrated with him but probably told him to shut the heck up a few times haha. I caught where he missed a couple of them but didnt even hear the final with Lucas. I know he was adamant about never playing again but he got so much better on that last serious play. I know he can beat it!
Lucas Kumiega never misses his mark I guess
Mark is truly just another number for Lucas
I was a little mad at first, but only because he didn't change the title, because when I started this part, I thought he would win by the end.
cant believe i just watched over 10 hours worth of videos just for him to not finish the game this took me like a week haha wow
Heyy Turkey :3
oh hello there
Dude, same. Finally thought he was gonna finish with the video title and length.. Totally understand why he stopped though lol
this tookme two days. i have no life
I just thought the same.
1:51:55 mark perfectly times lucas' leave to make sure he isn't juking him out, the noir decide that the lights have been off too long and kill him. BULLSHIT. Genuine game bug. There was no win scenario in that Lucas encounter, It was just a death scenario.
he could have had more light on.....like he was told multiple times.
Then Lucas sticks around for longer, which wastes more of your time. That you need, because RNJesus decides whether you get codes at certain times or not. It's a bullshit game, stop pretending it's fair.
If I’m not mistaken, I think Adam purposefully sabotaged Mark’s game out of pure spite and arrogance. So what should have been Mark succeeding at the game turned out to be a huge waste of time due to the developer being a total asshole.
not a game bug. if more than one light is off the noir can kill you instantly. look it up stop being ignorant.
@@marsayde1237 wrong that was a small time streamer
What if the Noir and Lucas showed up at the same time?
Lucas: And... I’m in. Oh. Hey Noir.
Noir: ‘Sup.
Lucas: ...any idea where he went?
Noir: He’s in the shower.
Lucas: Oh. Thanks.
and then the fbi shows up...
how would that go?
@@icewater6841 FBI busts in and shoots Noir and Lucas
Thatd be epic hed go in and kill anyways
@@icewater6841 as for what you said they'd arrest everyone in there not shoot unless they tried to escape
If the cops showed up too it’d be more like
Cops: *FLASHBANG*
...
Cops: oh hey wassup, yall know where he is?
Noir: idk check the closet
Lucas: what about the bathroom
Cops: na he would never hide in there
To the people raging about Mark being frustrated with the game and complaining about it:
1. The game is extremely hard and tedious to the point where it stops being fun for the player.
2. You're all acting like saints who have never raged at a game before.
3. He did not attack the developers on a "personal level", he gave valid criticism after playing almost 16 hours of this excruciatingly frustrating game and losing.
Lol I'm surprised people are mad at mark but I think this is the only time he has said f you to the developers.
He gave good critisism but he also raged to a point in which he normally doesn't get too and rightfully so with how long he put into beating it. It does remind me heavily of vanish in which mark just had the worst luck.
@@GlitchedRebellion your just super nice and cheery, huh?
Nobody is worshiping mark and people make mistakes stop heightening this up 100x worse than it is.
@@AndroidHarris He deleted his comment, can you recall what he said
@@jackgold7340 they just said something about how all of marks followers would go attack the developers with death threats because Mark told them to and that all his fans like worship him.
They also said something else as well but I can't remember either way it's isn't that big o deal.
@@AndroidHarris Oh, alright then
Mark: “LOOK AT ME! I DESERVE THIS”
Me: looking at him
Mark: “GO TO THIS LIVE STREAM TOMORROW”
Me: watching this 2 years later
yo its me from school
Pedro get the hell out of here! We were both watching the same shit because we have time on our hands! Let’s go!
Bro, I'm just watching this funny shit to get past corona and quarantine.
@@UsUpNxt we all are sadly lmaoo
@@UsUpNxt same
I did really like this playthrough. Not really cuz of the game but cuz Mark made it fun to watch 16 hours of absolutely fucking nothing. All his notes during silent time, his sarcastic comments towards Noir. Pretty cash money.
Real glad he didn't waste more of his life trying to finish this game.
I think the problem lies with the fan base this time because the developer himself tweeted that he didn't care about the things that Mark said during his rage moments while playing the game-maybe because he himself knows that his game is rage inducing. But then he tweeted that the thing that really bothered him was the hate mails plus the negative reviews he was getting. Like for Pete's sake, we all know that what Mark said was all in the spur of the moment-that it was rage induced-so I just can't comprehend how some people would just decide to send toxic emails and unfairly review a game when they weren't even asked to do so in the first place. I sincerely believe that Mark never meant any harm. If there is anyone who should apologize here, it is the people who "hunted" the developers.
On another note, Mark did try hard so we can't really blame him. I guess he just wasn't that into it so he didn't try hard enough.
Exactly what I wanted to say too, I completely agree. Rage will bring up rageful behaviour and we all know from almost all other videos from Mark that he is not a hateful or inherently mean person.
I mean, it's a bad game. It kind of deserves hate.
Sanford Bassett the game isn't bad you just need to know what you're doing
Sanford Bassett it's not a bad game
Gonna come out of Area 51 with part 7 of this series
i wish
If only
Please
Do you mind if I tag along? I need to pick up my Wiafu and it's a long way...
How the hell did it get this popular. I literally just made an area 51 joke
56:51
1:53:56
2:41:07
4:02:17
I wasnt prepared for the first one
Snooping as usual I see SAME
The noir were at the windows a few seconds before they got in I saw someone moving then they got in through the door
In second jump scare btw
bless your soul. i was looking for this.
9:57 - Hack
15:02 - Hack
20:18 - Power out
23:03 - Hack
31:30 - Hack
33:10 - Power out
33:47 - Hack
36:25 - Hack
38:26 - Hack
39:32 - Noir at the window
39:56 - Hack
41:56 - Hack
43:34 - Hack
48:03 - Hack
48:57 - Power out
49:00 - Noir behind Mark
51:00 - No jumpscare, you're safe
56:51 - Noir attacks (game over)
1:05:14 - Hack
1:10:52 - Baby, baby, baby page (not too creepy)
1:12:04 - Hack
1:15:18 - Power out
1:18:01 - Hack
1:26:20 - Noir at the balcony
1:29:09 - Power out
1:30:11 - Hack
1:31:36 - Hack
1:33:06 - Hack
1:34:23 - Hack
1:43:41 - Eye page (not scary but seeing Mark anxious gave me small jumpscare lol)
1:44:40 - Hack
1:46:12 - Power out
1:46:15 - Noir behind
1:47:07 - Not a jumpscare but Momiplier calling~
1:50:33 - Lucas is here, brace yourselves
1:53:56 - Noir attacks (gameover part 2)
2:06:13 - Hack
2:09:14 - Hack
2:11:14 - Hack
2:11:53 - Long "NOOO" from Mark
lol
2:12:57 - Hack
2:14:18 - Hack
2:15:43 - Hack
2:17:11 - Hack
2:18:23 - Hack
2:19:15 - Power out
2:19:39 - Noir at the entrance
2:20:03 - Hack
2:26:13 - Vacation page (very loud)
2:27:50 - Creepy face yelling ¿? (loud)
2:30:15 - Hack
2:33:44 - Power out
2:33:50 - Noir at hall
2:36:00 - Forgive me page (a bit loud)
2:37:06 - Hack
2:41:07 - Lucas came for Mark (gameoever part 3)
2:53:09 - Hack
2:54:21 - Hack
2:56:02 - Hack
2:57:24 - Hack
2:59:07 - Hack
3:00:26 - Hack
3:03:39 - Hack
3:07:06 - Hack
3:08:20 - Power out
3:09:34 - Hack
3:17:05 - Knock (?)
3:17:43 - Noir at the door
3:24:27 - Power out
3:24:55 - Noir
3:27:55 - Lucas and Mark playing hide and seek
3:29:35 - Mark abandoning us :(
3:33:29 - Hack
3:35:11 - Idk but just letting you know it's jumpscare free
3:37:40 - TO MUCH TENSION. THAT SCARED ME.
3:39:06 - Noir at the window
3:42:09 - Power out
3:42:11 - Noir behind Mark
3:45:49 - Mr Lucas again
3:49:28 - Vacation page (loud)
3:56:43 - Hack
4:00:51 - Brace yourselves...
4:02:18 - LUCAS. MARK HAVING A BREAKDOWN. (gameover part 4)
4:07:24 - Knock (?)
4:12:00 - Mark loses it
4:23:35 - Hack, even though he's not even playing LOL Yes i stole this im pasting its at the top and i can hide in the comments easier
Bro your a legend. This Video needed this comment. Looking forward to more of your work keep it up ☝️
@@Hollaatme7 what? What work? People are weird
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Legend
Eh, Mark's reaction was mundane compared to a lot of other reviews on games that I see. People insult developers on a daily basis. While it's less common for someone with a large following to flip their lid, they're not much different than us. Games which are designed in a way that makes you angry should expect the backlash of a player. It also didn't help that the game devs were pestering him on twitter during the livesteam. "Get good" is not a valid response towards the legitimate criticisms of the game earlier in the livestreams. For instance: The hacking minigames had staggering difficulty when placed side by side, and the node one gave many youtubers trouble. The game devs refused to fix this.
And I agree that the game is bullshit, but here's why:
The first glaring issue with the game is that there's a lot of space for no reason other than to exist. Immersion is one thing, but when you sacrifice quality gameplay for realism, you are asking for players to get angry. Packages could be delivered outside the door. The VPN thing which collects DosCoin could easily be an apartment only thing. The Breather could try to mess with your door, and you'd have to listen to fend him off before picking up your package.
Lucas would function fine if the game was restricted to only the apartment. The problem with him is that he will randomly appear on the other side of the door and ruin your day. If he was just an apartment thing, you could use the cues you get normally to fend him off.
Noir spawning in when you have any lights off is a terrible mechanic. From what I'm picking up from the comments, they can spawn in for an insta kill, and this is more common when your lights are off. This is awful game design. Lucas takes forever to go away if you hide with lights on, and there's no way to turn them all off if he starts lockpicking. Therefore, you've now forced the player to hide for an undetermined amount of time, and they get to do absolutely nothing.
SWAT teams are just whatever. I think you should be able to listen for their footsteps to have a chance to hide, because from what I observed, there's sirens, and a bit later, they break through. Sometimes, the siren isn't even for you, but you hide anyway because god forbid you lose all of that progress.
The absolute worst thing in this game is just how long everything takes. Because the game appears to lack any form of large content, it uses lengthy tasks to create artificial difficulty. If you want your game to have perma-death to extend its playtime, you should at least balance that out with at least ONE checkpoint. The fact that some of Mark's play sessions took an hour and a half only to end with death and a hard reset makes his rage justified. All of your progress is gone. Why would you want to keep playing? You don't even get to play the game half of the time, because when you're hiding, you just go make a cup of tea in another room while you wait. The only form of hiding that requires any interaction is the breather, which I believe to be the ONLY good NPC in this game.
The game had so much potential, but it squandered it completely by biting off more than it could chew. Good on Mark for stopping while he was ahead, because that minimal outburst could have evolved to a lot more.
well said
Interesting how one of the most reasonable arguments against the game, and in defense of mark, has the least attention from those trying to put Mark down :/
I appreciate this genuine and well thought out criticism a lot
@@reiseninaba5944 are you a dev? I must be crazy..
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 why would you think that
Considering mark was one of the first fnaf 20/20/20/20 completionists (I think he might have been the second official player to do it I can’t remember now) I think he reserves the right to shoot a game down for being legitimately poor. Conceptually this game succeeds in being very scary and creepy it plays it’s strengths very well as being a horror/thriller game. Mechanically however it is dire, completing this game is incredibly luck based and extremely tedious. It’s much more of an experience rather than something to finish~
this game is about a thousand times better than FNAF though... FNAF is nowhere near as complex or as eerie as this game. mark didnt hit the nail calling it a bad game, he just never comprehended simple mechanics. chat told him over and over. lucas spawns from the elevator. get the motion sensors and the alarm. set them up properly. but he never listened, never got better. he just went in looking for keys like a dummy. literally dozens of hours of gameplay and he couldnt comprehend how to play properly by the end
The biggest problem was the fact that he was constantly relying on incorrect information, especially regarding Lucas. Things like 2 honks and footsteps on your floor have all been proven false by the Welcome To The Game 2 community, by players who have played the game for hundreds of hours. He needed the motion detectors (for each end of the hall) and never bought them, outright refusing to do so, so this was never going to end any way other than failure over and over again.
@@zackmash851 Although yes, it is more complex than FNAF, I will disagree for (at the time), this game was buggy, broken, and outright bullshit.
As others have said, you shouldn't require an encyclopaedic knowledge to play a game. That is not great. If you can learn everything within a couple of hours, that would be preferred.
This game requires you to know EVERYTHING about who you are facing. From Lucas to the Noir to the Police to the Breather to the Dollmaker. I had to have a god damn guide running on my phone for each enemy because I'd spent so long on the game already and a lot of false information at that point was being spread.
And yeah, Mark was also ignoring some info, that one is fair. But, frustration tends to do that. You could make the argument of "oh, well he should just calm down then", but he's been at it for four hours, with repeated deaths, dooms, and self-destructions of all kinds. It isn't that easy.
Sorry, rant over.
@@zackmash851 The problem with this game is the fact that you can't learn how the enemies work unless you look it up or spend dozens or hundreds of hours learning them individually, and you have to just get lucky on top of it all because RNJesus is not kind. In FNAF you can learn the enemies patterns much sooner and it is still challenging, yet possible with skill and not luck.
@@zackmash851 Bruv. Learning how to deal with the enemy on the internet irl is not a good game design. Hell, even though FNAF is not as complex as this shitty game. At the very least it can do is GIVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEM *INGAME!* Observe their fuckin pattern. Where they spawn. How fast they move. FNAF doesn't even have much RNG to begin with.
I've watched every second of this game, from part 1 to part 6, and the Markiplier ending is clearly the true ending. 10/10
me 2
His rant is justified now seeing as the devs treat their fans poorly and even blocked a small streamer for joking about them and manually ruined their experience playing the game. They get no sympathy from me
A game they can manually control from whenever they desired. With mechanics designed to waste your time and be as tedious as possible. Slap in some egotistic developers (not a shock considering Adam is a self insert) and you have a recipe for... this game.
@@coolpizzacook Adam is a self-insert? Holy shit, that´s not a good look for the dev even for me who isn´t informed about all that.
@@coolpizzacook Ah yes, because being a self insert in a video game as the creator makes you egotistical. Flawless logic there mate
@@coolpizzacook yeah I don’t think your egotistical for adding yourself into the game if done right it can actually be funny asf like a forth wallbreak
@@ryanwolf1869 You'd have to be crazy to not see that it's a bad look to stick yourself in and make your Twitter one of the only home pages. I mean, it's shoved in your face. It's not exactly subtle or implying anything other than wanting to shout their name.
Do not forget this is an offline game with no internet requirements, meaning the dev has a backdoor installed to give remote access. This is called a remote access tool or RAT and it's a serious piece of malware. For some reason it was largely brushed off as a joke, but it means even pirated copies will have the backdoor in the file which again, is a form of malware. This normally isn't that big of a deal, but this game doesn't even use steam ID's so the dev would have to be able to 'see' all active sessions.
So a lot of people have come in with how this game is bullshit, guess it's my turn to add to the list:
1. Problem one, and it could just straight up be the worst problem: There are too many threats. In a game like this, where the RNG can randomly decide to fuck you over with multiple threats at once, you're setting the player up for failure from step one.
2. Adding on the first problem, there are times where the tells for the threats don't work properly (could have been the devs messing with Mark, could have been the game just being bugged and poorly programmed).
3. Making it possible for Noir to spawn right next to you and kill you with no chance of a save is eight different types of horseshit.
4. There are no checkpoints, so any death is a restart of the entire game.
5. Lucas can spawn behind doors when you're walking around the apartment.
6. If problem one isn't the worst problem, this one is: The RNG. It's bad. There are too many threats like I said, and they're all too aggressive so you spend more time dealing with the things trying to kill you than you do actually trying to find the codes.
7. The game requires outside research to be able to properly play. That's- no. Give a player all the tools to be able to beat it without forcing them to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the mechanics to be able to beat it. Which leads me to-
8. The game requires an encyclopedic knowledge of all of its mechanics to be able to survive more than a few minutes, and even THEN the RNG can bend you over a bathtub if it wants to.
The game tries to pack so many mechanics into one small package that it overextends and makes itself more of a chore to play than anything else. The RNG is capable of just spawning something to kill you at a moment's notice, and a lot of the time it just isn't your fault. The game expects you to deal with too many things at once, and if you lose track of any of it for a second; welp, game over.
Umm ok then. Rant over?
@@jacobymatt1767 if you read a bad game review do you call it a rant? These are just a list of criticisms against the game. What Mark does at the end of this video is the definition of rant lol.
Horfenico also one thing you forgot to mention here the doll maker is just terrible he’ll randomly show up after you’ve visited his site and he’ll tell you to put a doll on a girl’s door so he can kill them the problem is the game doesn’t tell you who lives in the other apartments so you have to guess and if you get it wrong game over.
The noir can’t just spawn next to you and kill you. He can only do that if you have the lights off(which mark did).
I honestly think the truly best point you bring up is just how much the game expects you to figure out with absolutely nothing in the game to clue you in. It's completely ridiculous that the game is "finished" yet the average person would never have any idea what to do without checking a guide, and most likely no guide would exist without data mining. So much trial and error just to lose it all and have to wait through nonsense again. This is by far one of the worst games I've ever seen, and this is coming from someone who felt WttG was revolutionary.
People mad at him for not finishing it...
1. It's just a game
2. It was driving him crazy
he also said in the description that he finished it, and the fucking title says “not stopping until i’m done” ..i’m not mad, the series is entertaining to watch, but it’s definitely clickbait- intended or not.
lizzaboodle uwu 4:23:00 he intended the title as him playing until he was done with the game, not finishing
@@Strattus19 Connotation vs. denotation. Learn it.
HandleWithCare I just imagine his last UA-cam video ever is him finally finishing this game at 80 years old
Shut up, we want another episode!
Honestly it sucked that he never beat the game (on camera anyways), but he would’ve hated the ending, it wasn’t worth it
what is the ending
@@GearsUpDownUp There's 2 in the normal mode, and a special one for 1337 mode. The normal ones are where Adam is in an office, with Noir and the breather, and he tells you that the whole night was a sort of gameshow. And then he gives you the choice, you either kill Amelia and save yourself, or save her and die. Not the best tbh. The 1337 mode one is hilarious, you spawn in the same place, but you can actually walk around, and there's this stupid music while Adam's clapping and all the killers are dancing like crazy, and there's this text on the screen constantly saying shit like "you're a god gamer, wow, who is this guy, etc"
@@caughtintheweb0 He would probably say something like, screw it kill me just kill me and choose to die
the ending is so bad, it's basically
save yourself after going through literal torture for hours and kill the random girl you don't even know and it also not even real and really the only prize is *not dying* even though it wont matter, bc its a video game and you've died countless times already
OR
save the random girl for no reason and you die pretending you are such a hero for saving the nonexistent life of a fictional girl that you never meet anyways.
there's a big difference between difficult and rewarding game, and just making the player maximally stressed and depend on absurd luck for an infinitesimally small reward
@@HakoTaco1 there's no story telling quality to the game, no one gets immersed in tryna save the girl nor cares. Other games while being fictional actually do immerse you in the story and make the characters feel real. The purpose of this game is just to be hard and that's it, the story is not good.
I love how this ended. Thank you for standing up for yourself.
After looking up the ending of this game; Mark certainly didn't miss much. The ending was crap and certainly not worth the absolute bs the game puts you through to get to it.
and he even knew something was up with Adam
Dosent help that the dev was ACTIVELY messing around with the difficulty and AI as mark was playing just to mess him over, honestly if the dev wasn't such a piece of shit then mark would have already have had this game done
@@OzzyDaGoat15 apparently the backdoor for the dev to mess whit ppl came in a patch when mark was already done whit the game lmao
@@OzzyDaGoat15 how did he do that?
@@OzzyDaGoat15 That's blatant misinformation, the backdoor update didn't exist around the time Mark played the game.
Welcome to the Game playthrough: One hour playthrough, pretty chill, kinda spooky
Welcome to the Game 2 playthrough: 17 hours of PAIN and SUFFERING and he doesn't even finish the game
And kinda scarier
Don't worry, play the cops theme when swat comes in
@@matshbocks What?
@@ZekePolarisBSH you can play UA-cam in Welcome to the Game 2.
@@matshbocks are you a troll? I never asked about this.... I am asking what are you saying on your last comment.
Congratulations to You who are binging this series during Quarantine and made it to the end!
That’s me
Ayyyy
me
How did you know
Damn there is more people watching this than I thought
Spoiler alert! Mark did exactly the right thing. If you look up the ending of the game, you will come to know that the whole thing is just staged, they want you to finish the game so that Adam can tell you it was recorded for other viewers to watch you live in fear and then they will kill you in from of audience. So Mark WON by not playing their game!!!
This is bright
Wait, for real? Kinda clever, ngl
An interesting game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess instead?
@@johng6657 FLAWLESS REFERENCE
Keep telling youself that
I think the main reason people are hating on Mark and saying that the game is easy is because they are actually experts on the game.
Yeah, when you actually sit down, read, take notes, and look up a walkthrough on the game, it appears easy. But actually playing it without looking up a walkthrough makes the game bullshit as figuring out the mechanics of the game is tedious and nearly impossible on your own.
I agree that when you look up a walkthrough, beating the game becomes a thousand times easier and Mark looks like a fool here, but if you HAVE to look up a walkthrough JUST to beat the game, that already says everything about the game.
Also, there are some stupid mechanics in the game anyway. Rng is any game is always frustrating.
Don't bother with these people. If I were in Mark's place, I would've stopped bothering as well. The game was FULL of bugs and errors 2 years ago. You'd get killed at random for no reason (I was once caught by the police 4 minutes after switching to a different wi-fi) or sound queues would be missing (I also was once caught by Lucas BUT I DIDN'T HEAR A THING, no footsteps, no lockpick). People blaming Mark for not completing the game have not experienced how stressful this game was a while ago... I did finish it, but it took me 26 fucking hours and too many attempts to count and when I finished it I got very lucky, Noir, Lucas and the Police barely bothered me. So yea, this game was a mess, no wonder Mark was done playing it.
The game is very heavily RNG-based. If you're lucky, you can complete it in a couple of minutes, but if the game wants to shit on you, it will hide everything on the last pages of a very long websites and give you the minimum ammount of DOS-coins from hacks.
Mark has done the research. He’s read the walk throughs, as far as I can tell. I don’t think he looks like a fool, except for the fact that streaming inherently takes away some of his focus and his narration could mask some sound cues. The game sounds easy in theory but the RNG is awful and the reward is really not worth it. He’s right, it’s not fun. It’s really uncomfortable and tedious to look through all those pages. Even scary games should be fun.
@@thestrangemusician168 if he did his research, I think he should have known not to turn off the lights EXCEPT when Lucas is coming. It's one of the main reasons he kept failing.
@@thestrangemusician168 if he "did his research" then he's double the fool, he made dumb mistakes any person would know not to do after even the smallest amount of research. his failure is on him, not the game
Honestly, that's the best way to end the game. Just walk away, keep yourself in a good mood. I don't understand why people are angry/shitting at Mark because he didn't finish this. It stops being fun for him, that's it. I doubt if he read another hundreds more walkthroughs and memorize all the tips from the chats, and finally got to the end, he will actually glad about it.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Mark wasn't having any fun by the end and I commend him for leaving the game when he did for his own good
He didnt finish it because the Dev got salty when mark dared to criticize his game, so he rigged the encounters so mark would keep dying to actual bullshit. Even the last death was supposed to trigger the ending but instead just brought him back
@@Dhampire1976 This was disproven. While the dev does have backdoors to each player that's connected to the internet, it was mathed out with the dev's twitter activeness and when Mark was playing that it was not the dev that rigged his game, at least for this part.
@@jas.per.25 wasn't disproven,only a baseless assumption based on nothing
1:52:51 Lucas is so considerate, re-locking Mark's door for him 😇
finally decided to see what the endings were for this game and i have to say. If Mark did ever beat this game, the endings would have probably royally pissed him off.
I can imagine him choosing to save himself due to that
I love how friendly mark was back in the beginning when he saw the developers watching his first stream of Welcome To The Game 2
And then by the end he’s like “let’s just ban these developers from society.”
8 Months Later Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying Mark was in any way wrong to be upset at the developers, I’m merely pointing out the funny change in attitude from stream 1 until now. This game is stupidly hard, and does not rely on skill. Mark has every reason to be frustrated. Especially if the developers were harassing him the way others have claimed
they deserve it tbh, they r shit as devs/people
They weren’t the nicest to him during his play through.
If I was a dev, I’d be overjoyed such a big name in gaming was not only playing my game, but spending 16+ hours playing it over a span of 6 videos which gives so much free marketing and coverage of the game. These devs didn’t see it like that. They treated him as if he wasn’t smart enough to play their game correctly. That would make anyone frustrated, even more than playing their silly game does on its own.
Bald Beauty I’m not familiar with anything outside these videos, so I’m not aware of any interaction between the devs and mark other than the one tweet from like the first video where they just said he’s streaming to game
If they were doing things outside the game that were mean/rude, than yeah they deserve some hate, but I just assumed he was upset at how poorly balanced the game is (I mean that in a very extreme way, this game is almost more unfair than five nights at Freddy’s in some ways)
@@thetableoflegend9814 I may be wrong, but I've seen other people say that the devs actively told him to get good when he was failing or struggling. So I feel like they really did deserve it considering that they would do it to others with a little bit of research. It wouldn't be too far fetched that they would have done it to Mark too.
@@starflight_cometfall8906 if that’s true, then yeah they really are not good people
I mean their game is literally broken
xLegendaryPete: the chat is moving so fast no one will see that i'm gay
*hmm*
I support this comment lol
Gud 4 u man eye sooport yuh
*ive got u in my sights*
Way to point them out. 😂
WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN
The fact that people beg him to play rage games then Get mad when he actually rages at a game....
Hali Marlow he didnt rage at the game he raged at the developers, it's a completely different thing
He made it personal with that certain comment, and acted like a child throwing a temper tantrum, he died many times because of his own mistakes.
I know right? He literally did the same thing with getting over it and it wasn't an issue. People in the comments are too sensitive.
Yeah but your missing the point of the Devs had a hand in this too, as the game is really unfair, I mean I survived like 30 mins and didn't touch it for how broken it was, you have hacks, police, Noir, the alley dude, I mean that's too many problems, and you have to be on the internet in your apartment, when you're moving and stuff, that's really multi-tasking god right then.
It's not supposed to be a rage game though
This game would be fair and good if it wasn't for an obscure instakill the noir can perform (can be seen at 56:50): According to the wiki online, this triggers when more than one light is turned off in your apartment, and you're roughly halfway through the game (in terms of time). you can technically prevent this by leaving all lights on except one and putting motion sensors on both ends of the hallway and turning your lights off when Lucas comes but I think this is way too convoluted and there's no way for the player to know that by just playing the game. Mark was doing everything right in my opinion and he should've won.
some people complain about having to get outside knowledge. Yet all this can be tested by the player. That information was gathered by people who compared notes. Yes, it would take lots of time to notice and compile by one person, but people got that information by trial an error. Also iirc, nowhere does it state you need to turn off any lights for lucas, he just sticks around longer if they are on. So marc turning all but one light off was shooting himself in the foot from the start.
@@yurika12 comparing notes my ass, information had to be datamined to figure out how some mechanics work. it's like being told to build something with a million pieces with no instruction booklet.
@@yurika12 The fact that you need extensive knowledge to even play this game makes this a bad game. No one wants to waste 100 hours playing this for trial and error especially if this game is not even fun
@@yurika12 this game isn't some mario game where you can just jump and die and restart immediately. By the time you test something out with Lucas or the instakill mid game from. Noir, you have spent like half an hour to an hour of very tedious, and challenging gameplay that isn't fun but more stressful instead. Saying that you can trial and error is completely stupid. Nobody wants to spend HOURS combing through things acting like they're playing the game just to test out a mechanic to see if they die. They want to beat the game, not die. All information should be given to the player or learned by experience and tutorials. Trial and error isn't a good method of learning for long games.
You just need to keep the lights on and even with all the lights on lucas actually doesnt take long in the apartment and you can just hide in the closet and turn off the microphone setting to be able to talk meanwhile. And yeah theres info like that thats not told clearly enough in the game but its there they told you not to linger in the dark aka dont be in the dark. But with a guide he could have won the game but he did not take the time to read one properly. The deaths were his fault
One thing I learned over the years of watching Mark rage over video games is that ya don't take anything he says in rage seriously.
We've seen him play getting over it, and ya know the kinds of things he said then.
Tell that to his emotional 12 year old superfans. You know, the “cancerous” part of this community. They’re the ones sending hate mail to the developers.
This reminds me of when raged at the game Ben and Ed. The difference here is the ‘sales’ thing. Both times he bashes on the developers and game.
You realise there are a lot of his fans that will bomb the developers with hate and negativity because of this, and the comment about the sales while its true its a really cunty thing to say
Why not take it seriously? He was 100% right.
Unpopular opinion: I think mark 100% has a right to say his opinions. He doesn’t have to sugar coat everything. He said that he personally “hates the game” and it did nothing for HIM, and thats his opinion. Yes, some of the thing he said may have been hurtful to the developers, and they have 100% right to feel hurt. I have played this game and have enjoyed it. People are different in play styles and patience/ stress capacity.
The problem are the people leaving bad reviews or harassing the developers. One, you have to purchase the game to leave a review, and it’s so petty and pathetic if someone buys the game JUST to leave a bad review...
2) if you’re harassing the developers on email or twitter, that’s just sad..
and Yes, mark may have had a contribution to the incident(fans harassing), but we have no say in what he should do. If he chooses to apologize (or not), it’s his choice.
Just an unpopular opinion. Don’t need to agree, everyone has different perspectives and I understand that.
Update: I heard he had apologized on twitch stream, but I am not sure :)
True. People like to credit him for the controversy just because he has a large following, but at no point did he request his audience to harass the developers. And, just like you said, his complaints are clearly backed up by playtime, not by a baseless, empty, negative opinion for shits and giggles. I completely agree with you. Nice to know there's some sanity in these comments.
How do I like a comment 100 times?
I agree. Mark was in the right to state his opinion. This isnt the first time he trashed a game when ragging. The issue that I have is that some people went after the developers, when they should have mind their own business.
Agreed, honestly.
Sorry. But you are a hypocrite. Mark's words have too many weight
Lucas: hey Mark check out my new camera
*Bang*
Lucas: wait this isn't a camera
That seems f a m i l a r . . .
Asdf movies
Hey SpongeBob check out my new clarinet solo
this isn't a beach this is a bathtub
@@yeeyeebrother4870 its like 2 feet deep lady
Even years later I still agree with Mark. I don't know if they have updated it sense this stream though. The game is 50% skill and 50% random bs, it takes skill to know how to deal with the random bs that happens but, the random bs is so random and bugged (or at least was) enough to make some of that skill not matter. One of things I payed most attention to when Mark got them throughout his attempts were the motion sensors because he complained about them not working. I saw one or two times when they went off and never heard the audio alert for them any time he had bought it. Also we can clearly see how bugged the game was considering the one hack puzzle at 1:32:00.
I think The Noir had to be the worst of them all though because the only way to make sure you don't lose to them is to get up out of your chair basically randomly and look around your apartment. Then, if you do see them, you have to turn your back to them for 30 seconds to make them go away or they get you. The fact you have to actively check for them at random intervals because they can just randomly appear at certain locations in your apartment is just unfair. It's just a way to artificially increase the difficulty of the game because it would've been easier and shorter without it. The threat of the police is fine as long as you know how long you can stay on each wifi, otherwise I feel like it's kinda unfair.. Like I can't remember which part it was in but Mark didn't know he had to disconnect from the wifi or move the dongle before he powered off his PC when he went to hide from lucas, and because of that after he was done hiding from lucas and getting back on the computer the police broke in and got him. Sure, you can buy the police scanner once you get enough DOScoin but it's like 250 and you're not going to be getting that much DOScoin early on. Lucas would be fine if the audio cue wasn't so freaking quiet, anytime Mark freaked out and hid in the shower I never heard any audio cue that would signify Lucas picking your door's lock. The document on the Breather doesn't even inform you about how you know if you need to hide from them or not, this would make me just hide in the room in the alley every time to confirm whether or not the Breather is there which just lessens the amount of time you get and adds to the games monotonousness. This isn't even considering the random power outages and the optional Dollmaker threat that you have to initiate yourself.
In my opinion when your game is so hard that people end up having/needing to use a guide to figure some of the stuff out it's not designed well. The game at least at the time was deliberately designed so that you would have to play it maybe 100 times before you could beat it. Yes, anyone can figure out everything that guide had to say if they played the game enough but, they shouldn't have to put that much time into it just to beat the game. Honestly, I wouldn't really have a problem if there was a checkpoint system. The game autosaves every 15 minutes but, you lose that save file if you get caught by one of the threats or run out of time. The game starts you at 10PM and you have till 4AM I believe, and if that's real time minutes and hours that means a single run of this game can be up to 6 hours long and you can lose all that progress and time you just invested by getting caught once. With how the game is designed it just seems like playing it is a phenomenal waste of time because any time you put into the game is instantly reset if you make one small mistake or forget about something just once.
The thing that gets me is I don't understand the reasoning for the randomness AND the intentional stuff, in this game. Clearly the devs are trying to make something that meshes game with realism, but it doesn't make sense that you'd be able to know (in real life) "Okay that was two honks, so I know that's a murderer coming to get me." But they built that mechanic in, AND also I guess there's just random stuff you won't be able to figure out despite that?? The randomness doesn't make sense when you make a game that's predictable like that, 'cause why would you even establish that "footsteps mean ___" if it won't matter sometimes? The only reason I can think of the randomness would be "We want it to be somewhat realistic, where in real life you couldn't tell what will happen," but if that's really what they thought, then why make those cues that mean something in the first place? It's just this weird in-between.
It'd be so much better if they picked one of the two; either no predictable cues, or cues that always mean something (but of course the latter would likely be a lot easier). The randomness could be padded with you frequently checking the area, like you gotta go to the doors to see who's where, or hell they could've had security cameras in the building that you could hack into a check to see if people are coming for you. Idk I feel like there are very simple solutions to this, which makes it even more frustrating. 'Cause it's clearly a VERY well-thought out game, they put so much work into it and did an overall good job, but Idk I just don't get this one issue.
@@ray25lee you just can vividly feel the Devs intent to mess with players sanity
I agree with this comment on a spectral level. Also, the ending isn't worth literally any of the trouble the player went through to get it.
Just wait until people dig deeper and found out that the developer actually has a backdoor to people's games. And exploited this to troll a streamer for hours because the streamer said he was an asshole.
@@SloweBro99 Do you have a source for this? I genuinely want to see this.
I'll be honest. This game does a lot of things right, and it does a lot of things wrong.
It's absolutely terrifying. I've never found myself so scared of any jump scares in my life.
But, the fact that somebody can't beat this without doing some outside research isn't right. You should be able to play a game, and beat it, without having to spend 2+ hours reading up on the wiki.
You should be able to beat the game as is. If it's not that way, it's just unfair. No game should be difficult enough to the point you're FORCED to look online to even begin to understand the most basic concepts.
Nowhere does this game tell you that you will need to just sit and wait for five entire minutes in nothing but darkness if Lucas tries to get in. Nowhere does it tell you that your flashlight is EXTREMELY UNFORGIVING and can't be fixed. Nowhere does it tell you how often you need to switch networks. It just tells you often. That could mean literally anything.
A player shouldn't have to reach to outside sources to even be able to understand the most basic of concepts.
Sure, if they were to look online to find ways to get better at games like Dark Souls 3, that'd make sense. But, there is no chance in any hell any person would be able to beat this without any exterior help. If they were to dedicate themselves to just sitting in the game, looking nothing up - they could be ten games in and still not know Lucas can take up to five bloody minutes to leave.
This game is too punishing for too little reward. It does do the ambience and scares right. I've never had any game scare me this badly. But, no game should be this punishing and unhelpful.
A player should be able to beat a game in only a few tries without having to spend hours upon hours figuring out the most basic mechanics and concepts via outside source. That's not okay.
Well, except for the part where you said the same exact thing literally 4 times, you are kinda right.
The game needs way too many hours and tries to even have a slim chance at completion, and there is no progression whatsoever between runs.
Xia if you can't beat that game without outside resources than how did risk rim make the guides he played and learned
Carol I must admit, xia has a point though. Having the game not explain itself can be frustrating. But also having to be able to beat a game in a few tries seems to be stretching the expectations of the level of difficulty in which you experience in the game.
The whole game is beatable, even without outside help. You just need serious patience, and trial and error.
Also games like these gives you a freehand of doing what you want, the way you want(with none to minimal limitations)
And Lucas; It's mostly trial and error, people wrote how many minutes they experienced was right.
The game has been made to be extremely taxing and difficult as well as not to casually be played and beaten in a couple hours. And it's not alone in being a game that doesn't hold your hand and tell you everything. It makes you struggle to find out how it works and beat it. Some people like that rewarding challenge. But certainly not a game for everyone.
I love when he forgets to lock the door and the chat goes insane😂
ali strand Locking the door does absolutely nothing. Lucas and the Noir still come in xD
If you don't lock the door, you have no warning against Lucas. If you do, he has to pick the lock and you have time to hide.
Thetigtip I'm not saying you shouldn't lock the door, I just said its funny when he forgets and the chat goes off
ali strand th3 chat goes insane about it whether he forgets it or not
Lock the Pee Pee.
Lock the lock.
Lock Lucas.
I like lock the butthole
He played this game 14 hours and people are mad he quit?! He was DEDICATED to finishing he game and did his best. You can only take so much frustration of something before you can’t do it anymore. He put SO MUCH EFFORT into winning/finishing it, you should be happy he took 14 hours of his time on this one game FOR OUR ENTERTAINMENT! Mark is one of the few yourtubes I know of that I’ve been watching since their beginning Nd he cares more about his viewers want/opinions then others. He is very appropriative of our feedback and support. Instead of being an asshole and being mad at him, be thankful.
Those 14 hours are mostly edited tho so it could be even longer
Dumbass, we're mad that he attacked the developer on a personal level.
You sound like the entitled mothers on r/entitledmothers
Yeah Mark is a good person and this is a hard game that he really tried for us to finish. These games are just not for everyone, and there's a lot to criticize. Though, he did attack the developers, like, directly and wasn't very tasteful with his dislike of the game, despite the developers being really nice to him. Totally get why he hates the game. He can say that as much as he wants. Don't really get that level of rudeness, and then not really apologizing. You know?
SAD well the game is broken as shit
A year into quarantine has driven me back to this playthrough even though I know Mark never finished it. I understand why Mark was so angry by the end. Not only was he screwed out of a win multiple times, but the game's creator was kind of a dick to him as well. Why would Mark go back? It's a shame. Though I would bet that he'd have hated the ending and he would have resented having spent so much time on the game.
What did the games creator say?
@@pspolygons get gud
@@spiritorange8325 On top of that actively sabotaged his game via backdoor access if what people are saying is correct.
@@OrionDawn15 nah, that was added after mark was done
@@thebman468 Well I'm hearing it was added after and that it was in the game the entire time but kept hidden until recently announced and hailed as a 'new feature'. A bit difficult to tell what the truth is when I get these two conflicting informations.
I watched the ending else where, gotta say it's kinda dissatisfying. And the doll maker quest has no ending. Mark you tried your best, don't feel ashamed for quitting.
yeah, i hoped for a better ending, in my opinion the ending from the first part of the game is 100x better
but still sad that Markiplier discontinued the series, I'm disappointed that i watched 6 parts and it turned out that he didn't finish the game, i liked him the most
He quit?! Oh man.... 2 hrs left to watch....
@@ShinyCoder Same :/ . He said, "this won't become the new Vanish". And, he was right,...because he finished that (sigh).
@@Jaybird196 but for real - watching him playing this game was very relaxing, at least for me xD
@@ShinyCoder Yeah. I just wish, he pull a Vanish, rejuvenate himself, and finish (like last time). Mark is still cool, to me :) .
Props to Mark for having patience for this game. You’re doing great Mark!
Hell yeah! He'll find the red room soon! ☺ I'm sure
Nope. He's done forever.
Did you comment this before watching the video? Lol
i know right id end up breaking something haha
I love his determination tho 🤧🤞🏽
In regards to the drama about this video: (And this includes the Dev's comments.)
Mark is free to his own opinion. I don't believe there is anything wrong about what he said. "But the sales comment!" -- No, really, if anything what he said is true; there's nothing wrong with stating blunt facts in a passive-aggressive way when everyone watching already knows that you're fuming and feel like you've wasted a chunk of time when you could have been doing something more productive, engaging, or fun; etc. (Such is the life of gaming.)
The subscribers taking it out of context and blowing it up, throwing it in the developer's face is not at all Mark's fault. Not in my eyes anyway. You guys have to remember that Mark plays some games because he's started them and doesn't want to let his fans down; it was pretty obvious that he wanted to quit awhile ago, however he's tried to push on just for ya'll. You guys shouldn't take his irritated comments and run off to the developer of the game and start going off on them.
That said, the developer shouldn't be steamrolling Mark and personally attacking him either. After seeing that and the way the developer reacted, I'm even more inclined to agree with Mark's freedom.
1) Mark probably shouldn't have mentioned sales, but it's live and shit happens. Can't blame him.
2) A Game Developer should NEVER take any criticism personally and should NEVER feed into user reactions just to try to justify themselves. This only hurts their overall sales figures because it never works out. This is why Developers are ALWAYS neutral and refuse to comment unless it's something positive.
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
15 hours ago
lol - thanks for your toxic email.
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
14 hours ago
Seriously just listen to what he [Mark] just said.. like wtf?
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
13 hours ago
Incase you missed it. Here is just a sample.
[Posts **only** the clip with Mark ranting, with absolutely no context.]
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
12 hours ago
[Responds to user.]
????????? I hope you know that it took over 2k hours to make the game..
[Serfrost: Let me break this down for you. Roughly 9 months including days off, 8 hours a day.]
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
11 hours ago
In other news.. Thank you all for the new follows and massive support, really appreciate it! Kind of surprised to be honest. Hope you all have a great weekend!
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Reflect Studios @thewebpro
8 hours ago
I also want to point out that Welcome to the Game II took over 2k man
hours to make, and with a team of two. One developer(me) and one artist
doing all the 3D art.. that's it..
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*Essentially says - Dev:* *_"I don't like what Mark said, so lets reshare it for everyone without context (so biased opinions and drama can commence,) meanwhile, let me sip my tea while I block anyone I don't agree with. Oh, and I forgot to mention how many hours I spent, let me tell you now."_*
Developers *should not* act like this in retaliation to any kind of feedback they get to a creation. This is seriously bad business practice. It really looks bad on them, no matter who or why it's being said.
"Mark has followers, and" ... well, so does every other UA-camr, Streamer, and other popular faces. Just because some are more popular than others, does not automatically mean they have to start being politically correct. Mark spoke for himself and--honestly--that's all I could hope for. /shrug
Congrats if you read this, I don't really write comments on anything. \o/
I think the thing that I find funniest, is that everyone is quick to criticize Mark's comment about the sales, citing his ego as a cause, but they're also vehemently defending the dev saying that Mark needs to be more concious about his influence, newflash wankers, you can't say he didn't affect sales, but also talk about his influence over his fans, those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
Completely agree with this comment, have my like.
Is there a way I can agree to this MORE than 100%?
Sean Serfrost yeah, he is using this towards his business practice since his game has been recieving biased negative reviews, Adam is constantly working on his game even after release to fix bugs and bring more content
okay hun, i see what you’re saying, but please try to see the side of the game developers. Mark has so many subscribers, most being tweens and young teens that the devs are probably being overwhelmed. if i made a game like this and people were responding to the game badly *just because of the way their favorite youtuber played it,* i would be a bit upset and i would reply with how many hours it took to make too. it’s not the devs’ fault that a large portion of Mark’s fans are shitting on them, especially when almost none of them consider that Mark is saying stuff when he’s frustrated and angered, and they have a right to say something back when that’s happening. but you’re entitled to your own opinion
Sean Serfrost very well said!
Genuinely pissed at how the noir killed him RIGHT AFTER he’d gotten up to check. He was on such a good run and the game genuinely just has to/had to have been broken for that to happen
I’m pretty sure what I have heard, at this time the games backdoor was still open so Adam could harass streamers, and I’m assuming from what I’ve heard from lots of people, Adam was apparently “trolling” people by ruining games, like a small streamer I can’t remember, by manually activating dollmaker and Lucas instantly so they couldn’t play. This is what I’ve heard so don’t quote me on this
@@videltookthekids2946 yeah I saw a tiktok on this! Saying how they think Adam had a back door into the game and didn’t like what mark was saying so he made his game impossible to win. It’s all conspiracy at the moment but explains some things!
@@panicsummer_7954 I’m pretty sure that this isn’t a conspiracy anymore, as the person who made the game admitted himself on that same small streamer (who I don’t remember) he himself was going into every game they played and made it unplayable. This backdoor was used to make the functioning Twitter and UA-cam since the game isn’t an online game.
@@videltookthekids2946 I meant like we don’t know 100% that Adam messed with marks game. Although in the game I noticed mark get hacked before the supposed time? Then again idk if that’s weird or not but I did notice that
@@panicsummer_7954 yeah, plus some people noticed at a certain time when the noir killed him, they were not there. They weren’t at the window or any other places, so they must have showed up and instantly killed him, or he was messing with the game. Although this game IS a buggy mess so that could be an answer, although I’m not sure if that’s better or worse for how much this game was being sold at.
I hope Mark revisits this one sometime, I actually liked this series.
Yeah you're right
Same. "Not stopping until I'm done"
So maybe he'll revisit it.
@@rachelsilverland6179 Nah, he won't, he directly said he is not gonna return to this game ever
Михаил Бганко and it proved to be true
@@МихаилБганко Ah, alright.
I haven't watched the last episode for it's unnecessary because he didn't finish it.
A raging Mark... I don't have to do this to me.
46:03
Mark: We are now in the home stretch.
Me: *sees that there is still about 3 3/4 hours till the end of the video*
Me: What the hell happened here?
He reached it several times just to be hit by the noir
That’s one helluva home stretch 👀
Nice reference
Mark losing most of his sanity
I'm glad Mark took so much time to play this game just for his fans. Its obvious he's not a big fan, but he is very consistent, and being as this is one of my favorite games, I'm glad he's willing to put the time and effort into finishing the series. As for all the drama, I see no problem here for anyone, it's a rage. It happens to everyone. Love you, Mark!
To this day I still love how the dev's had the biggest ball's to come into Mark's streams and tell him to "git gud" at this whale shitbomb of a game.
wait-
deadass-
they did that?
when-
@@tubersloth I don't know if it was his first stream because I was working at that time, but I remember watching his second stream and saw the developer comments there. Idk if they were joking with him or no but to everyone there it seemed like they were intentionally making the game more frustrating for his experience. Either way, game is pretty bugged so if the devs feel like defending a pile of shit then I'll just move on to better games.
Git gud
Apparently the developers could manipulate the game while watching streame play it? Just to dick around with the steamers. The fact that he could be pissing around and say that is gross.
@@Rigiroony Man reading about the dev he sounds like an arsehole + the websites are disgusting, copying real life or not, there's just no need.
I didn’t even know Mark was getting hate for this play through, the fact that people are mad that he’s getting angry and has his opinions is really childish. Mark already brings himself down a lot, and he tries really hard for the games he knows we like to watch. This man is too sweet and caring for the comments to be like this, either unsubscribe or “lock” your hate. Since y’all like that damn joke so much...
Did you even watch the video? He went after the devs, and very harshly. You can't have watched it, if you missed that while watching, god help you.
Link you act like you never got frustrated before. I sure mark didn’t really meant that he hates the game, or that it’s shitty but that’s what a rage game does. This game is meant to make you made a frustrating so when you win it’ll be a great reward. It’s just a tactic that game developers do to make it a good game. Obviously he’s gonna rage for playing at least 13 hours in total with this game with no progress.
I have privately wished for the slow torturous deaths of the developers/bugtesters of Larian Studios for their crap show of a job on Divinity II Ego Draconis for the 360. It's was a great concept and I loved the game but it was bugged to all hell. Half way through the game there was a game ending bug that locks you in a cut-scene with characters trying to run through a narrow tunnel to get to their position for the cut-scene to continue. It's just after beating a hard boss at the halfway point just before where the game finally lets you play as a dragon. If it happens you're fucked, you can reload your save but it will happen again every time unless you didn't save before the boss. If you did you have to start the game all over again. I'm still salty about that bullshit years later. I loved their game but I was infuriated all the more cause It was a great game ruined by really shit decisions somewhere in their development.
pink gui Of course I've been frustrated before. That doesn't mean I'd go after and attack the devs themselves on a livestream in front of tens of thousands of people and endorse sending them hate.
Taylin Ford no he's the worst youtuber ever and he should be taught a lesson no just jokes I love watching him play rage games
Honestly this was a cool game in concept, but there's just so much shit that just piles on with it and nothing cancels out. There's no satisfaction in beating it. It's like a chore with no real reward. Watching Mark raging about this went from entertaining to sad, because his frustration wasn't even funny anymore. It was painful.
MelodysAFreakingSecurityGuard After 10+ hours... 😂
Oh yeah for sure. And like it's supposed to be hard/frustrating so it's amazing he put up with it as long and he did. But her coulda handles his rage at the end a little more tastefully...like not personally attacking the developers?
There was someone who beat the game in less than an hour.
The first did it better
@@addiepage2214 What do you even mean by personal attack he is just blaming the one who made the fucking game that way, if you're developing something you have to be ready for the criticism.
ALL RIGHT now whichever fan is thinking about witchhunting the Dev STOP RIGHT THERE. This game is hard thats it, the rage at the end was just a rage. Stop sending the Dev hate mails, like the one he posted on twitter. This is a good game it delivers what it promised, only problem is its hard and has a lot of RNG to it.
Agreed
So unbelievably true.
something a dev would say...
FUCKING THANK YOU!
PurifierColossus not really
You'll likely never see this mate, but thank you for all the hard work and hours you put into trying to beat this game, and for sharing the experience with us. You're a fucking legend.
_(Reading the title of the video,)_
... You know, in Mark's defense, being "done" with a game doesn't always mean actually beating it...
But it means he didn't finish what he started
@@Silverlugia1256 please stfu in all these comments. I looked. In EVERY single wttg video you corrected over 5 people and its annoying and no one cares about technicality.
@@Silverlugia1256 it's the title of the Stream, he can't control what he does in a stream
@@hydratedgraph2486 he could change the name of the stream (he has in a stream before) but I guess he just didn't want to since he was done with the game, just not in the way that these angry people in the comments wanted
@@bunny-bear3224 People are more angry that he personally attacked the dev, which they should be mad about.
One, Two, Lucas coming for you
Three, Four, better lock the door
Five, Six, hearing the lock picks
Seven, Eight, into the shower late
Nine, Ten, NEVER PLAY AGAIN!!!
Sam I am Wooow 😂😂
Sam I am
👏👏 AMAZING! haha.
Sam I am- lik cringeworthy but nice
Atleast its accurate
Sam I am lol
I honestly didn't think his comments were 'sooooo bad'. Sure, untasteful, but not as bad as so many people are saying. If you spend 10 hours streaming a game that heavily relies on RNG and doesn't even let you save for being so difficult offers no rewards. Mark was frustrated and he had the right to be. That doesn't doesn't make him the person in the "right" here, nor does it make the game dev.
Reflect Studios was also completely unprofessional during this all. Tweeting about receiving bad feedback and how upset they are, all while Mark is streaming and mentioning him letting him know he's not doing it right- that's frustrating. Imagine playing a game and the developer tells you you suck lol.
What the dev was doing on his twitter was childish.
And to the followers that are sending him death threats? Grow up. To the people blaming Mark for what other people are doing unsolicited, grow up.
There's no winning side or some dumb shit like that to this entire situation if the whole thing is a mess.
Except the "RNG" of the threats can be properly managed if you take the steps to do so. The Noir will be much more aggressive in showing up in your apartment if the lights are off, like Mark kept doing (he only had like 2 attempts with the lights on), making it harder to catch them in their pre-game over window. Motion detectors in the hall (on both sides) along with the separate audio software gives the player more time to get set up for Lucas' invasion of the apartment. Mark flat out disregarded the chat telling him this and ignored motion sensors this entire stream, making Lucas a much larger problem that he should have been. Really the only threat that really feels to RNG is the breather, but if you only order the Motion sensors, and are fast enough about it, you never have to even worry about him.
I agree. When talking about the RNG aspects I mostly found Lucas appearing behind any door when you're out a little frustrating, and the tediousness of having to do all the internet sleuthing all over again at a game over (though I'm probably only saying this because of Marks stream in particular being frustrating).
I DO however think the dev could make gameplay clues a little bit more opaque, if only a slight amount, to let the player know what they are supposed to do without having to look it up. I loooove games that don't outright tell you how to do something and avoid xyz, but some of the solutions are almost very random (like the Noir acting basically like paranormal beings and avoiding death by turning away from them). But I do take into account that only two people were involved in the development, so of course I only say this as critique than slander (:
I am not sure but i think you need the bluetooth device in order to be able to hear if Lucas is waiting for you in the hallway or not as you go up the stairs. Not too sure but I have seen other streamers buy it. But no, that internet sleuthing frustration is shared among other streamers XD honestly I need to watch some streams from the first game cause I think that maybe people who played the first game have a better understanding coming into the second one.
REYES It isn't a pro game-developing company. It's literally two guys. TWO GUYS. They spent over TWO THOUSAND hours developing this game, just for Mark to act like an egotistical prick when he couldn't beat it. (When it's Mark's fault for not being able to beat it because he's too focused on the chat and making those haha funny lol ecksdee jokes to play the game.) The devs aren't acting irrationally at all. They're hurt, and I feel for them. Mark needs to get his act together, and if he doesn't learn to control his anger and his massive ego, he needs to stop streaming rage games altogether.
REYES well said. It is so depressing how so many people get mad for nothing.
Can you imagine Lucas kneeling down to pick the lock, and he just hears this: 1:27:36
He'd probably back away slowly😂😂
Underrated comment!! Nice use of a time stamp; I can totally just imagine it in Lucas’s perspective, how ridiculous that’d be to hear😂😂😂
“I think this is the wrong apartment must be one over”
“FLURBEN, FBLORPDYCLUUU… SHNNGHAAGHAAAA”
Alright, so... Here's a few things. This is less directed towards Mark, more directed to the participants of the stream, and/or whoever else this may involve;
1) If Markiplier is getting angry at the game and begins ranting, yes the game has pissed him off (and he is reacting in the heat of the moment), but for fuck's sake, DON'T go and start sending Reflect Studios childish, angry hatemail because it doesn't help the situation at all, and does not make for a good image of either you, or Mark's fanbase as a whole for that matter.
2) Yes alot of you want Mark to do random ass sidequests or play the game in a certain way, but for fuck's sake, stop spamming messages and/or asking people to copy and paste the same thing over and over again in the stream chat. As of this point, Mark is just trying to beat the game VIA speedrunning. His playstyle is not YOUR playstyle, and he will eventually adopt new tactics every stream or so. Be patient, and while it's nice to give advice, DON'T spam it! All this does is clog up the chat, and you risk getting yourself blocked or banned, because it gets very annoying! There's a REASON he does not respond to spammy messages!
York have you ever even seen a live stream. He can’t read the chat AT ALL. It moves way too damn fast. Lol. There’s a zero percent chance the chat will be helpful here. Too many trolls and too fast of comments makes it impossible to decipher.
Oh, actually. What he will do when he wants to read the chat is click on the chat which stops it from scrolling down any further (messages still go, it just makes it so he can at least read a section). I have also attempted to fight the spam by telling people to knock it off, but ironically enough I have to spam a little myself because once someone does a "please copy and paste" message, other people then get the idea to do so too faster than you can tell them to stop x.x so it takes multiple tries to curb it. He also does not seem to respond to the spammier messages, which is probably for the best.
Especially #1, couldn't have said it ANY better myself.
It’s live chat. Best you can do is pray the mods do their job the best they can. Or you can just not have chat open.
+Tron Evolution It's less for me, more for the sake of proper advice actually going through. The trolls and imposters usually get weeded out, so all that's left to do is address those who are actively doing so because they believe it will "help" somehow.
Honestly, I'm amazed he kept at it this long.
I wasn't even playing and I was ready to rage quit after half an hour in the first video.
Like. This shit is just so convoluted and confusing, and there's just so much. I super don't blame him for losing his shit because same.
The last good one, he opened the door to Lucas and I literally yelled, "FUCKING SHIT NO" like I hurt *for* him.
Nothing bugs me more than reading "calm down" in the chat replay
Almost 4 years later and I'm now finding out that Mark's rant garnered backlash against himself. Personally I have never seen a game break Mark as much as this one (I think this one did him in more than Getting Over It), so as harsh as some his words may have been, I think they're justified. 4 years later I'm sure someone will still chirp me in the comments for saying this.
Hi brother ;)
Chrip
@@shukakah8862 the only reason you are sayin that is if you're a Caps fan.
Still watching...
"Chirpity chirp chirp" - someone adam blocked on twitter for criticising scrutinized
I actually don't feel bad for the developers in this case. I have watched several streamers play this game and mention that it needs to have bugs fixed, have a more fleshed out tutorial, have some threats toned down and rebalanced, and I remember the devs specifically tweeting to Mark "Lol, git gud", when he expressed those concerns the first few times.
MatPat spent most of his first playthrough in the dark trying to find the door because it was never mentioned that you have a flashlight, and Mark spent close to that kind of time in the dark on his first episode. Why can't you pick up more than one item at once? Why don't new items glow in your room instead of having to hunt around for them, especially if you don't know what they look like the first time you get them? You have hacks that steal your money and notes, a hitman, a serial killer, the police, AND the Noir. You think that's enough obstacles for the laborious mechanics given? The game would have been improved if, say, the police and the hitman were cut. Just have the alley killer, the hacks, and the Noir. That's more than enough, because you have so much to focus on for the web based part of the game. Maybe re-label the hackers as the police, and have them steal your notes as "illegal activity" or something.
I went over and read the dev's twitter. While he should NOT be getting hate mail, I'm surprised he's acting that way after his response to fixing the most BASIC problems with the game was "git gud". On top of that, I have to be honest when I say I don't really see where Mark was out of line. He hates the game, he JOKED about it making him want to die. I understand that not everyone will understand that he was joking, but I felt that it was a comment too over the top to be taken seriously. Also, so what that he hated the game? That's no reason to start crying. Nothing on the face of the earth has a 100% approval rating. There are going to be people that just don't like what you have. That's part of life.
"Broadcasting to millions of people in his audience"...well, apart from the very wrong parrots that sent the dev hate mail, people can make their own opinions. They saw that the game was unfair. He doesn't dictate what people think. Even the speedrunner who beat the game in 20 minutes said that it was all just RNG and ignoring how the game is intended to be played. That's blatantly obvious and has nothing to do with being told what to think, as his comment implied.
I'm sorry but he just can't play the victim card on this. Man up, fix the game, learn from the experience, and move on. Except, once again, for the hate mail. He doesn't deserve to be harrassed. But holy shit, you are a developer. Develop the game to it's fullest potential. Don't die on this hill, because this game is FAR from perfect. And when people tell you that there's a problem with the game, take it into consideration instead of brushing it off next time.
Shrapnel Stars I agree
Is it just me or is it stupid that people are getting so damn mad over marks opinion and can't just give him a break and be nice for once.
Steve Bailey apparently marks fan base are mostly a bunch of sensitive kids who need him to have the moral high drown and happy.
kiurem neitor please stop saying shit about the fan base mark and the fan base was the first time I felt like i was worth something and it may sound avis wired but this fan base is like a family to me and i thought we were better than this i just wanna cry right now it makes me hurt so bad this fan base is amazing but right now its not mark I
Did nothing wrong.
Please stop saying shit about the one place I call my family.
Reflect Studios
@thewebpro
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lol - works just fine @markiplier. Get gud.
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Shrapnel Stars who do the developers think they are trolls on a dark souls forum saying "git gud?" Absolute imbeciles
I just read through comments... Really people!? People are either mad as Mark, or the developers. First of all, it's neither or their faults and they shouldn't be getting shit. It's YOU ALL who are causing problems... Mark has the RIGHT to be mad and frustrated and pissed off. He's given hours to researching and playing this game, 1) to give all you guys entertainment, and 2) for the sake of beating it and the joy of playing it. Then to have it beat him in ways he doesn't know, he has every right to lash out, and be salty. Then there's the developers. Don't give them shit. The game was MADE to be difficult. It was MEANT to be difficult. It WASN'T meant to be easy. It's for people that have the commitment to play it. Like Mark or anybody who had beaten it. And for those who say it's broken, maybe Mark included, just because you don't know why you died DOESN'T mean the damn game is broken. It MIGHT be, but who are you to say whether it is or not. Not to mention it's HARD to make a game. So yeah, the developers might make some mistakes that might be hard to fix. It's not like any of you could make a game any better, let alone be patient enough to do so. I know for damn sure I can't. The ones at fault are YOU "FANS"... stop hating on Mark, and stop hunting the developers just to hate on them. Your toxic haters, worth nothing but a headache for someone else. Seriously grow up, grow some balls, and man up. And if your a woman... just, yunno... just grow up. Don't have to grow balls or anything. But seriously people, stop pouring salt on your cookies, and stop being so toxic. Thank you. Love you. And if you want to hate on me for this rant... go fuck yourself. Bye. Have a great time!
tuaiq someone's salty
Actually it is the dev's fault for not fixing his game in the first place, even when Mark said too and he just replied on twitter with "Git gud"
+Thatcoolsomedude
Jesus Christ... FIXING WHAT EXACTLY?
Kaptain1337 i heavily agree with you my pal, even though i havent even watched the stream fully, i see the comment section and i basically know everything now what mark did
Kaptain1337 agree with you 100%
MinhFongBoy0
7 months ago
56:50 , 1:53:55 , 2:41:05 , 4:02:16
sadcherrygirl thank you
I honestly wish I would have come looking for this sooner. The first one always gets me so bad.
Thank you!! 😂❤❤
Does anyone else think this game is broken? Or is Mark just not playing properly. I'm just thinking about Marks 2nd death. He had literally just checked all windows for Noir and goes to sit down then a couple seconds later he's killed by Noir. I was like wtf, how is that even fair?
These are the jumpscares right !???
Three years on, and I still have yet to see such a profound example of arbitrary difficulty.
Seriously wtf, so the developers expect you to be able to react to the smallest sound and get into the bathroom with only a couple of seconds? I can understand why Mark quit playing it
i wonder if all the killers have one big group chat, like
noir: “IM GONNA SHOW UP AT THE BACK DOOR AND SCARE THE PISS OUTTA HIM LOL”
lucas: “LMAO YESSS!”
breather: “😂😂😭😭💀”
(update: this got a lot more popular than expected holy shiitake mushrooms)
pretty gay lmao
Void - Minecraft One of the only good parts of the comments section, don't ruin it
Dollmaker "LOL TOTALLY 😩😩😤💯🔥"
you assbutt 😂😂😂😂😂
Police: Y’all know you’re arrested after this, right?
Lucas: Uhh
"I am the one who knocks"
THANK YOU FOR THAT REFERENCE
Part 6 and there are still people making lock jokes.
Classy Fish LOCK YOUR COMMENT
Lock your mouth.
Classy Fish
We need to get rid of the lock jokes. Say... lock the lock jokes, eh?
BooshButters That
makes no sense
Yup instead helping mark, they keep on making these lame jokes, i find it horribly stupid now.
You know, I'm glad 20+ millions people got after the developer personally. After seeing his smug and bully attitude with streamers using the backdoor built-in the game, so he could hinder the experience of anyone.
wait what did the dev do?
@@commandergull8188 After a update he introduced a function in the game so that he could change how the game works via the internet. It was undisclosed at first and totally intrusive. He messed with the streamer xQc, and he was cool with it. However a other streamer 'criticize' the developer and ended with a 3 hour long section with the developer 'destroying' his game and killing him non-stop. Even entering the chat to bully him. I don't recall the streamer name thou.
@@carlosmarques535 what a scumbag
yeah I was going to buy this until I saw the steam review that showed what happened to Castoreh
Fuck this developer.
@@scrittle Took me about 5 mins to find a review on steam with the required information. I think you're just bad at looking lmao.
Even without that incident, Adam harassed Mark and other creators on twitter for ages, and has a reputation for being a dick and messing with people's games to make it impossible to play. I can't exactly post you any "E V I D E N C E" in the comments because of links, but it isn't too hard to find evidence of him being a dick, as well as first-person testimonies.
Personally, I think what Mark said was fine. He is not a God, he is a person and people get angry. He said things out of anger and frustration and the dev did not help the situation and quite frankly made it worse. It makes me sad that a fandom I was once proud to be in, feels so dark now and I do not blame Mark for that.
leah rangel like I always say, love the franchise.. not the fandom.
The Starman seems to be what I'm going to have to do. I adore Mark but people's reactions, from people who liked him too, is just...depressing.
Well he’s a God to the gaming community and his fans, but I agree!
No part 7? Chat must have locked the series
😂
Well part 6 hasn't been animated yet. And part 6 is crucial to knowing why part 7 is in an alternate universe. I mean, why are we following a cripple that has a similar name to the person from part 1?
good point, everyone will be wondering why he's a crippled cowboy that shoots finger nails
@@Nextad_ actually the universe that Part 7 takes place in has nothing to do with the og universe. Part 1-5 still happen in the og universe Part 6 doesnt because Pucci wasnt born. Part 7 and 8 are in an entirely different universe
@@spicegrill I'm aware of this, Joshu. It's called a joke.
Mark: I’d be so happy if I completed this one my first one back ☺️
Game: *Hold my drink*
I think the real problem with this game is that it's a great premise, but it's too hard. They worked so hard trying to implement a "fear for your life" feature that I think they pushed it too far, honestly. If it had a save feature, or something that carried over into each of your new runs, it'd be different- something that made it worth running each time. Conversely, if they were to have made it slightly more forgiving, it'd also be a different story. The problem is that it's too hard, too unforgiving, and too repetitive. Repetitive work isn't good for this type of game (no saves), unfortunately. The stuff that is random isn't good enough- after about 45 runs, the shock factor of the websites is lost, and you're sort of numb to the entire thing.
Also the breather is broken. XD
Watching all of the streams and watching his joy and motivation deplete throughout them, he shouldn't return to this game. If it makes him suffer this much, he should probably play something he, ya know, enjoys?
So you are telling me that I spent 16 hours and a half of my life to watch that bad mad ending?!
WORTH IT.
yes. still an enjoyable watch. I enjoyed all the livestreams except this one. I think after the second death here I got bored. I just felt like it was time for Mark to stop. I was honestly getting worried for him. The game is only fun for so long and that's because of Mark. It's otherwise a boring, slow paced game that had potential but wasn't worth it.
@@georgaseebalack6003 the game has a very cool concept at the middle of it, but it's so poorly made. Mark's second death from Noir was random af and even I experienced plenty of absolutely random deaths in this game. I really appreciate Mark's efforts, but after the second death I woudl've personallt uninstalled the game. I experienced random deaths, but that was just total bs
@@Dafreshcut there arent any random deaths in this game the noir deaths he caused himself by having more than 1 light off. The game isnt poorly made theres 0 bugs that can make you lose your run. Theres only mechanics that make sense, arent impossible, are easy to avoid and that are clearly told in any guide/walkthrough you can look up. Mark caused each and every one of his deaths
@@psonehagridtbh, u needa hop off Adam's 🍤 bro 😂 even ppl who have played don't agree with your take
I pretty much skipped most of this video, because I didn't want to waste my time and then I looked in the comments and everyone was either mad at Mark or defending him and so I went to see why they were mad and well.. y'all need to grow some thicker skin because he didn't say anything that bad. Like, yeah, maybe he got a tiny bit harsh, but the guy was angry and has wasted HOURS playing this game for nothing so.. yeah, I can see why he'd be mad. Give the man a break, I bet every one of you has said something nasty about someone else before, to their face or otherwise so it's not like anyone else here is better. He has every right to be mad and express his opinion. I was honestly expecting worse by the way people were talking. It's not like he made death threats to them, he actually specifically said he DIDN'T want them dead.
scooby25611 doing teh same mah dude
scooby25611 I 100% agree
People should just stop blaming other people.
I couldn't care less about how Mark feels in the game, but did any one else feel really ecstatic to see him spit a bit of venom for once? He's usually so painfully nice you can tell sometimes he wants to say things. The only other times I've seen him get mad were because of a joke, but this time he very clearly meant what he said about game (though probably not the death)
After a year, I came to this back with high end headphones and I was able to hear the things that scared Mark. The small sounds really were a bit terrifying
On the first episode ever was one that he didn’t react to and I was so nervous
After re-watching every episode Mark has done in this game, yeah what a piece of shit it is. When your game is more of a chore to play than anything, you've honestly failed. You can make things challenging but also fun, this ain't it
Agreed. Games like this should be designed to test your brain, not your patience.
@@CommenterMr922 Granted, the entire point of Getting Over It WAS to be purposely tedious and obnoxious. WTTG and its devs just wanna be edgy and act like the game is balanced and anyone who can't beat it are just too stupid.
And apparently the dev is able to use backdoor access to fuck with your game. He did it in another gamer's stream and admitted to doing it and doubled down when the streamer criticized the game. I honestly would not at all be surprised if Adam decided to be a piss baby and fuck around.
The dev is also a shitstain so that's not shocking
@@jesselindsey9760 That would explain why some other people had significantly easier times beating the game when they did essentially the same things as Mark.
Let Mark be Mark. He went through hell with this game for all of us. His rant at the very end funny and it was him being himself. Never try to force someone to apologize for the fact that he didn't do a dang thing wrong. He has his own opinion on the game so let him share it. I, as a matter of fact, agree with his opinion. He is being him and that's what we, as his fans, love about him. If you don't appreciate the hell he goes through to put something up every day for us then you shouldn't be watching his videos. Mark, I love you. We all love you. Keep being your crazy, funny, and amazing self.
That’s sweet and I completely 100% agree. Mark is a gift.
Kathleen Bodine amen my dude
katgames4 *Ur OpInIoN dOsEn'T mAtTeR bEcAuSe Ur PrOfIlE pIc Is AnImE*
Sam Beardmore I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.
I'm honestly glad Mark is choosing not to finish it- he was right! After a certain point, it stops being fun or entertaining and just becomes a frustrating chore and a waste of a good mood. He always works hard on games like these even when they truly stop being any level of fun for him.
And frankly the game isn't great for streaming- which typically entails lots of talking and split focus between the audience and the task at hand, which isn't great for a game that requires intense focus and hearing. It also gets pretty boring to watch after a while since it's the same visuals over and over and over with little to break it up.
Games like these- games with high stakes and limited rewards, games where you practically HAVE to play using a cheat-sheet, and still you may be screwed over because 90% is a matter of luck- AT BEST these games are an /acquired taste/. Most of the time games like these are advertised as exactly that- a rage game, more or less. But with this game, it's not obvious unless you've been watching or listening to other people play it. When you make a game like this you probably should expect a lot of frustrated and angry people-mind you, I don't mean you should expect harassment and death threats. Which is sadly what some fans are appearing to be doing??
Other people are apparently blaming Mark for random folk acting out poorly, because he was like "FUCK UUUU!!"? He's entitled to be mad and frustrated and I'm sure he'd, in truth, be upset at the idea of people acting out like this in his name. :T
That's as much as I'm gonna touch on the topic of this kind of nonsense.
I lied I'm back with more thoughts.
I'm gonna preface this here with; I do not believe the dev should be harassed AT ALL. Just- no. Stop it.
That said- because I wanted to see the supposed evidence for myself- I went to visit the dev's twitter!
There was in fact an angry comment from someone fussing because supposedly the dev helped someone else win the game, but supposedly was actively sabotaging Mark's attempts to win?
And like, that's some bullshit. That person needs to go have some quiet time. Whether or not their claims are true is irrelevant, you just don't act that way. That's petty middle-aged person at an EstablishmentTM shit.
I also found some frustrations expressed from the dev themselves over Mark's raging- now, I get being upset about his fans acting out rudely, but essentially complaining about a content consumer not being pleased with your product is just unprofessional. I can see that they said their team consist basically of two people? But if you react this poorly to someone well known discounting the product, you may not be ready to be a larger company anyway, if that's your goal.
On face-value, or including the level of hyperbole and dramatic phrasing that he uses, Mark essentially goes "I BANISH THEE AND THINE GAME TO THE SHADOW REALM!" or, "/YEET/". And I highly doubt he's the only gamer who has basically gone "Fuck you for making such a needlessly difficult game!" whether sincerely or not. This is pretty basic gamer rage rhetoric and not much different than what I would expect had someone been playing one of those games like Getting Over It or one of the many Mario fakes that make everything insanely difficult.
If we peel away the layers, we can shrink Mark's more sincere (I believe) commentary to be "This product dissatisfied me and I don't think I'll be using it again in the foreseeable future" which is fair, as he was no longer enjoying it.
Now, supposedly the dev claims to not be bothered by gamer rage- yet that appears to be exactly what their complaint is.
"The gamer rage doesn't bother me at all, what does is that he's broadcasting to a massive audience,"
So, what you're saying here is "I don't mind if popular people don't like my game, as long as they do it quietly"?
Either you aren't being sincere when you say you're okay with BN people not liking your game, or you're under the misguided belief that BN people don't deserve the ability to feel negatively about your game in a public space. Like, what??
And before you say, "Wait! You didn't include the last part of that sentence about his fan base acting our in a toxic manner!" I left that out, because ultimately, Mark cannot control what his fans do. He could spend the whole day reminding his fans to be kind, but I assure you there are some people out there who just don't know, or don't care to attempt, to act properly.
I guess my point here is, if you purposefully make an extremely difficult game, what is essentially a rage game, that you expect to become well known and popular, you need to be prepared for well known people to (even jokingly) be raged about it.
I may edit more onto this at a later time, but it's late, and my mental facilities are waning. Night everyone!
Nameless im just enjoying watching live on the life stream, chatting to others :) makes you feel connected
Church of Darkiplier I personally think that you shouldn't have to research a game in order to win it. I think that the game should give you subtle clues that you can pick up on to win the game. I think this game requires a lot of guess work, even if you do the research properly. My major issue with this game is that if you die, you have to start over. If it was, without a doubt, your fault that you lost progress, I'd be fine with that, but because this game requires a lot of guess work and maybe even some luck, I dont like it. This comment was 100% my personal opinion.
Church of Darkiplier True. Everyone likes to play games differently. Personally, I prefer to play games by myself, but I can understand why other people would prefer to interact with others in the same community.
Nameless Its not a luck game you just have to learn the game.
I was in every livestream, I miss those good times. I was in my bed at night, all cozy and all and just watching Mark and enjoying my time. God I miss those days.
Dude how? Just watching these vids put me on edge nevermind watching them in the dark and/or at night.
I think it's safe to say that you're going to have to pay full price for Rides With Strangers lol
It's a good thing he's already played that, then.
【♥】 Chipz the game isn't out yet.
Really? Hmm, thought I seen Mark play that game before. The game with the Priest, right?
Yeah, that was the demo. The dev pushed this game out to make enough money to release Rides With Strangers.
【♥】 Chipz yeah that was just a small concept demo. The full game is currently postponed but it's a big deal to the developers and the people who want to play it. Hopefully Mark still plays it when it comes out lol
Im not going to say Mark should keep playing this game as I experience these bullshit deaths with noir myself even with all my lights on and when I hide, I make sure it's not for long. But I feel like if he didn't stream this game and just made normal videos I feel like it would be better, this game requires literally all of your concentration and attention at times and I know this from personal experience, with the chat and everything going on with the stream just makes it that much harder to concentrate and pay attention. So thank you Mark for playing this game, I don't know if you'll ever touch this game again but it's been fun for the most part, while it lasted.
Okay I didn’t finish the video but from my understanding what happened was that Mark didn’t finish the game, did a huge rant and stopped playing the game. Good for him for doing that. Maybe some parts of the rant were unnecessary, but Mark has every right to hate on a game he plays and he has every right to stop playing a game when it gets too difficult or challenging for him. We all get mad and sometimes anger can ruin the experience for us. Mark has a right to free speech and he’s expressing his opinion. He even apologized to the Game Devs afterwards, saying it was in the heat of the moment. I agree with Mark on this. Welcome to the Game ll is extremely unforgiving. Mark beat the first Welcome to the Game in less than 3 hours. The original one was very straightforward and it kept your attention. You only had to get 8 keys and the only thing you had to look out for was getting kidnapped. In Welcome to the Game ll, you have to look out for EVERYTHING. The police, your WiFi, power outages, the Noir, the Breather, Lucas, etc. and on top of all of that you have to get the keys and look out for hacks. I understand that the Devs wanted to make the game more interesting and jam packed but they ended up doing the exact opposite. It’s tedious. The game is tedious and way too hard. If you have one little fuck up, you’re dead and you lose all your progress. Time wasted. I’ve watched all of his previous streams on this game and I’ve gotten so bored of the game that I just wanna know what happens in the end. If I I feel that way, imagine how Mark feels. He’s been playing this game nonstop for 4 hours in this stream alone. He’s tired, he’s angry, he could be doing anything else right now. The end reward is too little for all his hard work. Mark isn’t even enjoying the game or having fun, he just wants to beat it. I think the Game Devs can learn something from Mark’s rant and maybe make the game less challenging and more engaging. To everyone who is hating on the Game Devs because of Mark’s rant, please be professional about this. The game is very unfair, but at the end of the day, it’s just a game. I’m sure the Game Devs are very nice people, who very much admire Mark and will take his rant as constructive criticism. So if Mark and the Game Devs are being professional, so should you.
Okay side note. I just looked up the ending for the game and let me say this is one of the most underwhelming endings I’ve ever seen. The first WTTG had a better ending than this. So if you don’t want spoilers I recommend you stop reading here. So in the end you find out that Adam was the one controlling the Noir and he played you from the start. He got Lucas and the Breather to see how long you can last or how fast your instincts are. Something like that. He was pretty much just fucking with you. He goes on talking about why he does it and he mentions the girl ho needs saving. The choices are either you can go home or you sacrifice yourself for the girl. There’s nothing else too it. If you decide to take your place for the girl you just get your throat slit by the Noir right on the spot. Honestly the ending leaves you with so many unanswered questions and it’s really boring for all the hard work and focus you put into the game. It’s not worth it and I’m glad Mark isn’t gonna to go crazy and lose his sanity for the game. At least in Getting Over It the ending was worth it and Mark actually enjoyed himself. This one just kinda fell flat. The first WTTG is really good and I highly recommend that. Mark actually gets to the end and the ending to me is very interesting.
I worry more about how people are taking this-- Mark has a lot of influences on people and saying something in the heat of the moment can ruin a dev's career, especially if it's not a free game. Mark's outburst has caused ppl to start harassing the dev bc they can't see any problem with his raging at it. I agree completely that he has full right to feel however he wants about a game and say as such, but he's also gotta keep in mind that his words can cause others to take actions.
I feel like a public apology video for the cruelty of the raging that focuses mostly on telling fans to chill might help, since not everyone checks his other media accounts.
Yeah i agree with you 100%
Remember when he played "getting over it"
You could see the happiness and the relieve when he won. And he appreciated the ending coz it was worth it. And he smashed the dev as well. He said some pretty mean stuff but at the end he finished the game and the ending was overwhelming. Where as this game as you said was anti-climatic and not worth all the shit
If the devs could just increase the sound or make more audio qeus for the nior. Just improving the sound queue would help players a bit
What is your goal here?
Elise The Cat Your comment is exactly the reason why some have said it was best that Mark thought about what he said before he said it, because it influences his followers whether you subconsciously pick up on it or not. You typed a large paragraph, didn't finish the video but assumed you understood exactly what was going on. You didn't. Had you finished the video, I think some of that paragraph would have been typed differently. I don't give a damn about the game, to be quite honest. But I watched the stream, and I knew Mark was frustrated playing this game, who wouldn't be? Mark didn't like the game much. Mark attacked the game, in the heat of the moment. All of that is fine. Mark also directly attacked the dev...then he took it to the next level...and then retracted his last statement in fear of it being taken out of context. I feel like that was a step too far for a guy who DOES have influence over his followers, especially those that are children who watch him faithfully. I thought that warranted an apology from Mark. I don't know about the "hate" comments but that was my only point, which of course I feel was a very fair one to make. It wasn't about the game, at all. I've followed Mark since 2013, so I know how genuinely good of a person that he is (or may be, I don't know him personally). He is human like we all are, but we all are not exempt from the responsibilities that comes with how we use our platforms these days. The world watches, and the world is very impressionable.
I saw someone say Marks game could've been little... Adjusted... For him to not win. He often said how he didn't like the game and what was wrong with it. Given the fact that developers acknowledged he was going to play it, they could've seen how displeased he was with it. They could be angry and made sure he couldn't win it. No matter how hard Mark trued, he never got to end which is weird and some deaths didn't even make sense... Just my thought
There was a video essay that got pretty popular based on this topic specifically and it is not likely that the devs messed with marks game, not many sus (things the dev has shown he can do with the backdoor plug) things were going on. The game just sucks
I Dont think they could alter 1 single copy of the game, besides theres hundreds of famous youtubers who didnt like the game, they would have to do this for all of them.
@@amiriskandarani3608 they did it before
@@amiriskandarani3608 They're not saying it was altered, they're saying the dev actively changed things happening in the game during the stream. It's actually possible, Landfall Games has done it a lot on streams
@@naplockblubba5369 I Can believe that XD But it would be kindof douchey for them to do that, maybe they deserved the f bomb mark gave them at the end.
2:42:46 It says that the game auto-saves your progress every 15 minutes... What is the point of that if you have to restart every time you die? I mean, I would assume that if you exit the game or your computer glitches, you would just have to start over as if you had died, but I guess not..?
Ryleigh B it saves in case you have to leave the game and come back
Yeah, it's honestly retarded. It's like making games like Outlast restart all the way to the very beginning all because you died, instead of the last checkpoint.
Chris Cross that is literally a thing in Outlast if you play on insane difficulty
@@jatsmith2363 oh. lol. but at least that feature is only available on a certain difficulty.
watching this again lol,, kinda scary to see mark angry and having a breakdown but honestly i can't blame him for quitting i mean, i would be super pissed too if im the one playing. besides,, the endings weren't even worth all the effort. the first game was definitely better.
but the ending of the first game is worse. Just gouging those eyes of a man out by some psychopath, with cutting the most intense scenes with video buffering.
@@wah3716 I think they're talking about how disappointing this ending was. The ending of the first one was what people expected.
you play games for the ending? i barely remember the ending of most games. I more vividly remember the journey and accomplishment rather than the payoff.
@@yurika12 Part of the journey is the end. You play games for the journey but what makes a lot of those journeys great is the end you're working towards. That's why people were pissed at ME3's ending and Game of Throne's ending etc.
@@TOONYBOY those examples you gave are story driven.... obviously a novel's ending is important. But not so for the majority of games. Usually just a "congratulations" or something of the sort in many games that people love. Games like WTTG2 are more like puzzles. You enjoy the challenge and the accomplishment. Hell i bet most of the time anyone plays WTTG2, no one is really like "gee i sure better get these key to save the girl!!!" or even remember that's what they are doing it for.
I was near the end, so I just skipped a bit. I decided that I was then going to click away to a different video, then all of a sudden he starts yelling to look at him and not click away. He then said my name and I immediately liked the video.
That was interesting haha
Sarah Hector o.o
Wait.... WHAT?! AT WHAT TIME OF THE VIDEO DID HE DO THAT
I'm glad he said ur NAME and I hate to burst ur bubble, but he was just guessing that the probability of there being a person watching this stream was high
@@UsUpNxt no shit Sherlock
Here’s a fact:
Mark spent about 17 hours on the second game, and 6 episodes
However he spent an hour at most of the first one, and only 3 episodes....
Not quite, the first one would have taken him several hours since not only did he die several times but that series was edited.
@@TOONYBOY true but the first game also was easier before the updated version of it came out
@@Cubed_Sphere Yeah,of course. It didn't take him an hour though
46 mins : were at the home stretch
video: 4 hours long
me: hmmmm that's a pretty big stretch
He thought he'd win but was wrong it's a Livestream
The Saiyan Channel it’s something called a joke bud.
Lucas: **walks to Mark's door to deliver pizza**
Mark: *TURNS OF COMPUTER, LIGHTS, AND HIDES IN SHOWER*
Lucas: LET ME GIVE YOU YOUR SUPREME GODDAMIT
lol
Yeah that's hilarious 😂
Spams like
Mark: Oh, cool. What flavor?
Lucas: *pulls out gun* G U N F L A V O R
I like how this whole time mark has said thanatanos when really it's thanatos
Ik, every time he would say it I would correct him lmao
I'm Greek and thanatos in greeklish means θάνατος or death
ITS even pronounced thanatos and not thaneitos
Iit still makes me angry
what can i say greek is hard
This game is like an abusive partner, you know it's not good for you but you keep going back anyways. I'm glad Mark didn't finish this for his own sake.
Same the ending is not worth it
@@Corknast yeah isn't it something like "(jeopardy theme starts playing) hey this was all fake. now choose who you want to die, you or this random chick!"
Yep, he broke up with his abusive partner
@@commandergull8188
Theres also a 65 (if the game files are correct) percent chance you just get shot in the end anyways.