Does Shorter Wheelbase Make Skateboarding Easier l Creature Stumps Decks

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2020
  • Does Shorter Wheelbase Make Skateboarding Easier? We met up with John Gardner and Creature Skateboards to test out their new Creature Stumps boards. They have a shorter wheelbase to make skating tighter transitions and flip tricks easier. Did it work? Watch John skate around Long Beach to find out!
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  • @ccs
    @ccs  3 роки тому +23

    WHICH TRICK WAS YOUR FAVORITE?!

  • @caseyaylward8853
    @caseyaylward8853 3 роки тому +33

    No joke I got one of these Creature boards and hands down its the best deck I've ever had. I could significantly tell a different. I even emailed Creature and told them whatever they're doing keep doing it.

    • @char345
      @char345 3 роки тому

      How long they lasted you? I got a regular creature board(not stump) feels like it might snap pretty soon.

    • @caseyaylward8853
      @caseyaylward8853 3 роки тому +1

      @@char345 Lasted me the normal time. About a month to month and a half

  • @mnnmnnnnnnn
    @mnnmnnnnnnn 3 роки тому +158

    when is kevs creations coming back

  • @jamiebrown7280
    @jamiebrown7280 3 роки тому +38

    love the style, so much steeze!

  • @MonkeyMagick
    @MonkeyMagick 3 роки тому +16

    Feels like I'm watching Gonz.💯👌🏻

  • @chocolateskater23
    @chocolateskater23 3 роки тому +76

    lmfaooo this dude is hilarious and he RIPS

  • @tyharris3263
    @tyharris3263 Рік тому +11

    14.25 is not that short of a wheelbase, it’s almost the average length you see these days. sub 14 would be pretty short, 13.75 is what I thought it would be

    • @matthewdrumss
      @matthewdrumss Рік тому

      Canny short for a board of that width tho

    • @benlilley8393
      @benlilley8393 11 місяців тому +4

      Yea most 8-8.25s are 14.25 or lower. I wish more companies made these wheelbases with 8.5+ decks. shorter and fatter decks feel great for tech shit surprisingly.

    • @paulvawter8205
      @paulvawter8205 8 місяців тому +3

      14.25 is a longer wheelbase in my opinion. I don’t feel that any length of anything works better for any particular persons height/shoe size… but if ur riding a 14.25” wheel base, ideally you’d be 6 feet tall if not taller. 14.125 is about average now a days. Used to be 14” back when most people rode smaller decks (8” and under) way back In the 90’s/early 2000’s. It is a short wheel base for his width but think about that for a sec… you go up in width drastically cause you wanna try wider boards… for the most part, wheelbase lengths increase with board width. But… did you get taller too, along with trying wider and wider boards with wider and wider wheelbases?? Since most people are 6’ tall and under… doesn’t make sense to me why every company isn’t doing what creatures doing with the shorter wheelbases. It was this sole reason why I literally never was willing to try wider decks. Then I discovered the stump decks and it finallyyyyy makes freaking sense so I’ve finally started riding a wider set up. I absolutely despise wide wheel bases. And I’m a smudge under 6’ tall size 10.5 shoes. I refuse to go wider than 14”. Thr cresture I got now is freaking 8.25” with a THIRTEEN AND A HALF INCH WHEELBASE. I think… it might be too short… :/

    • @pauliewalnuts5241
      @pauliewalnuts5241 6 місяців тому +1

      Creature just released a 8.61" Stump with 14.25" WB

    • @shibamaycry4585
      @shibamaycry4585 3 місяці тому

      Girl's g033 model is a 8.5 at 14.25 wb

  • @carefulcarrot
    @carefulcarrot 3 роки тому +19

    This guy is letting loose big time. no way am I charging transition switch like that!

  • @tannerl2066
    @tannerl2066 3 роки тому +7

    This guys style is amazing he rips so hard sheesh

  • @philipandersson4932
    @philipandersson4932 3 роки тому +1

    He’s got some beautiful style!!

  • @jaybird634
    @jaybird634 Рік тому +1

    I ride this wheelbase ! Love it !

  • @Dana-ip5xh
    @Dana-ip5xh 3 роки тому +14

    as a 5'5 dude, i will be trusting that this deck is good for shorter people and i will be buying it

    • @sk8_bort
      @sk8_bort 3 роки тому +9

      fellow 5,5 here, but after 13 years of skating I still don't know if I prefer a shorter or a longer wheelbase. They sure feel different and some tricks work better on each. The problem is, by the time I need to change my board, I swear I've already forgotten my preferences. I guess shorter is definitely better for treflips, that's for sure. Trucks play a huge role as well, but concave, lenght and overall shape do too, so... There are just too many variables.

    • @grashiela.v
      @grashiela.v 3 роки тому

      @@sk8_bort hey maaan i have an old skateboard deck and planning to cut the nose because it already has chips, since i enjoy much more on cruising i was planning to set it up on cruiser. Do u think it will affect if i move the trucks 2 bolts down??

    • @playboimarty
      @playboimarty 3 роки тому +3

      As another 5’5 dude I like a long wheelbase w aces to shorten it. My kfs and ollies are way higher. I also wanna try this board tho

    • @sk8_bort
      @sk8_bort 3 роки тому +2

      @@grashiela.v experimenting is fun and it's the only way to find the perfect setup, so go for it!

    • @grashiela.v
      @grashiela.v 3 роки тому

      @@sk8_bort thanks carlos! ❤

  • @matthewbrown770
    @matthewbrown770 5 місяців тому +1

    These decks are sick! My birthday complete is an 8.8 VX creature stump. Sick board. Has really calmed my board madness😂

  • @calebsk8ts949
    @calebsk8ts949 3 роки тому +4

    Have that same board definitely love the shape I don't know what it is but I really love that board just switched not to long ago that one lasted me 5-6 months💯

  • @eight_hundred_eighteen
    @eight_hundred_eighteen 3 роки тому +12

    Damn dude I have basically been riding the same set up except its 9.0 in. since this video came out. The board honestly rides so good. I had never really paid attention to wheelbases in the past. I will now.

    • @guyfromthatthing1017
      @guyfromthatthing1017 3 роки тому

      You ride Indys?

    • @Johanthegnarler
      @Johanthegnarler 2 роки тому +1

      It's a big deal. I was riding a 14 inch forever on Ace which shrink it even more. Started riding a Polar with 14.125 and I fucking hate life lol

    • @wittvonwitt4403
      @wittvonwitt4403 10 місяців тому +1

      I just got the 9" stump absolutely love it!

    • @eight_hundred_eighteen
      @eight_hundred_eighteen 10 місяців тому

      @@guyfromthatthing1017 Indy's. Particularly older models from their back catalog . Stage V, VII etc

    • @eight_hundred_eighteen
      @eight_hundred_eighteen 10 місяців тому

      @@Johanthegnarler what happened after the change up?

  • @TheReal_DeanD
    @TheReal_DeanD 3 роки тому +2

    John Gardner is just plain awesome.

  • @juliusf.3345
    @juliusf.3345 Рік тому +1

    100% WORTH it, get one if you can. Love mine

  • @fredraclette9882
    @fredraclette9882 3 роки тому +17

    Just ordered my first 8.5 Creature Stump after riding long ass 8.25's for a while. Curious to see how it rides!

  • @sonnyrico
    @sonnyrico 7 місяців тому +2

    Rode 15" wheel base for ever, got onto a 14.25 wheelbase and was amazed. Tryed a 15 again and dont want anything to do with it

    • @pauliewalnuts5241
      @pauliewalnuts5241 6 місяців тому +1

      Same here. All I get now are the Creature Stump boards

  • @lowek7773
    @lowek7773 3 роки тому

    i've been wanting this

  • @shaunvanslyke6386
    @shaunvanslyke6386 3 роки тому +2

    Good for steep feeling crooked grinds amd tail is nice steep and high-ish up. If ur into that.

  • @MrHalahalaho
    @MrHalahalaho Рік тому

    Very steep, great for snappy powerful skating. Plus the concave is super dish so great for flip tricks and board control 🍑

  • @xxb1sgxx281
    @xxb1sgxx281 3 роки тому

    Need more vids at this park

  • @XXPLUTONIXX
    @XXPLUTONIXX 2 роки тому +1

    Nevermind the board, that hat is dope!

  • @skarceoneafd9609
    @skarceoneafd9609 3 роки тому

    Cheers from San Francisco!! ☮️

  • @itzEnJ
    @itzEnJ 3 роки тому +3

    I went to Jordan high school where that park is located we used to get into gang fights there and now I’m skating there 10 years later lol

  • @healthpluswealth.
    @healthpluswealth. 3 роки тому

    that was sick

  • @dzaxys4643
    @dzaxys4643 3 роки тому

    i have that deck and i love it

  • @nikosucksatskating
    @nikosucksatskating 6 місяців тому +1

    Me and my buddy are tree-legged dudes, 6'0 and 6'5 respectively. Funnily enough the 6'5 beast rides a much smaller board than i do 😂

  • @grindeyyyyy
    @grindeyyyyy 3 роки тому

    I skated that exact creature deck the 1st time I went to Barca

  • @jessk0429
    @jessk0429 3 роки тому +2

    i saw him skating that day!

  • @hdela8172
    @hdela8172 3 роки тому

    Get video bro! Big like👍🏾
    Awesome channel🛹

  • @zachsurp
    @zachsurp 3 роки тому

    killer hat!

  • @jasonparker7766
    @jasonparker7766 3 роки тому

    I ordered it

  • @roberthayler1729
    @roberthayler1729 3 роки тому

    The hat looks like a distraction but the skating is fantastic!

  • @jakelockitch1944
    @jakelockitch1944 3 роки тому +1

    such a cool style

  • @Ninzumecha
    @Ninzumecha 3 роки тому

    I got this board to learn on

    • @blackbartsimps0n560
      @blackbartsimps0n560 3 роки тому +1

      It's the shit bro nobody in the game is doing it like NHS RN between these shapes the powerply and VX why skate any other boards?? Santa cruz/Creature for life bro!!

  • @jay-iy5zd
    @jay-iy5zd 3 роки тому +2

    shorter wheelcase = for shorter legs i was waiting for someone else to validate my crazy ass theory thank you;

  • @ghostman812
    @ghostman812 3 роки тому

    what was that beeping noise in the beginning of the video? so sick!

  • @sk8ernutdw
    @sk8ernutdw 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know what kind of shoe brand this guy riding? I have a creature deck too and it is a VX deck. The middle and concave deck is in pristine condition. The tail and nose is chipped but I am still able to pop it. I still like traditional decks but VX boards rehapes itself from rebound impacts. I am blown how it lasted for more 90 days. However the tail and nose could use improvement with strength because they weaken easily. Good deck though!

  • @jakelockitch1944
    @jakelockitch1944 3 роки тому +2

    where can i find a hat like that

  • @skankwave5245
    @skankwave5245 3 роки тому +5

    Yes it does, make more 14.1 or 14.12 wb, no one wants to ride a ship with a 14.38 wb. Only thing keeping me from buying creature too much 14.38 like all deluxe decks

    • @raiylab
      @raiylab 3 роки тому

      Gotta get on that juicy 14.5 wb

    • @rwirtz77
      @rwirtz77 Рік тому +1

      I'm riding a Traffic board 14 inch wheelbase. 8 inch deck

  • @lukegarrigues7540
    @lukegarrigues7540 3 роки тому +11

    Please do more Kev's kreations

  • @AgainstPureReason
    @AgainstPureReason 3 роки тому

    funky

  • @birdinreality8928
    @birdinreality8928 3 роки тому

    Shoes are fire

  • @jbnj11
    @jbnj11 2 роки тому +1

    Can you put OJ 55s on this 9in stumps creature deck and still feel the benefit of shorter wheel base?

    • @paulvawter8205
      @paulvawter8205 8 місяців тому +1

      Wheel height does not effect wheel base

  • @srt8up4shot
    @srt8up4shot 3 роки тому

    Yes it does

  • @benitofranklyn4237
    @benitofranklyn4237 10 місяців тому +1

    If you're 5'8 or above it makes it harder imo. Short wheelbases are great for kids, but if you're a more or less regular sized guy, all it does is make you have your legs/feet unnaturally close together. But please try for yourself, a big part of skateboarding is personal preference.

    • @user-xl4ww9rf3y
      @user-xl4ww9rf3y 2 місяці тому

      14.25 wheelbase is generally for people 6feet tall and up. 14inch wheelbase and under will typically making skating ALOT easier for people under 6feet tall.

  • @jds0912
    @jds0912 3 роки тому +2

    I love this guy's skating, but that board feels sketchy at speed! Does flip good though.

  • @olivermedley
    @olivermedley Рік тому +2

    No one’s gonna talk about how he rolled in switch?

  • @1214rock
    @1214rock Рік тому

    I'm a really big guy 1.92mts 120kg...what board do you recommend and what size?...element...creature or santa cruz

  • @tarzan7506
    @tarzan7506 3 роки тому

    At the end john looks like jared leto🤣

  • @hlywrk
    @hlywrk 3 роки тому

    ive been skating stumps and its the fucking best

  • @jonitron6972
    @jonitron6972 3 роки тому +9

    can i have my 14" wheelbase pls

    • @puma0210
      @puma0210 3 роки тому

      14 is the best

  • @LBSMD
    @LBSMD 3 роки тому

    So I measured my “wheel base” and it was at about 15in on an almost Max pro board. So is it about .75in difference? Any more information would be appreciated!

    • @LBSMD
      @LBSMD 3 роки тому

      Also, wasn’t World Industries the OG makers of short boards?

    • @runevds4205
      @runevds4205 3 роки тому

      @@LBSMD it’s going to be much more responsive and flip tricks will be wayy easier

    • @LBSMD
      @LBSMD 3 роки тому

      @@runevds4205 I’d really appreciate a breakdown! Like how “Braille Skateboarding” compares products.

  • @ericd8687
    @ericd8687 3 роки тому +2

    Did he hit the lazy boy 50-50 down that rail though?!?

  • @billscott6819
    @billscott6819 3 роки тому +1

    Only if you are 5'3" like this dude.

  • @LearnHistoryOrElse77
    @LearnHistoryOrElse77 Рік тому

    Compared a 14.25 VX Vs 14.375 Flight yesterday and it does feel different. Another thing is that I have Indy’s on the 14.25 and thunders on the 14.375. The Santa Cruz tail is steeper too. I might swap the trucks to offset the effect. It’s a tiny difference but felt a lot turnier on the 14.25. Comment if you’ve tried various trucks on this..

    • @kenzofrm2443
      @kenzofrm2443 8 місяців тому +2

      thunder tends to make your wheelbase longer and indy usually shorten your wheelbase so i think the trucks selection amplified this feeling

  • @ALLDAYCOINS
    @ALLDAYCOINS 3 роки тому +1

    SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATURE

  • @bonelles
    @bonelles 3 роки тому +2

    14" wheelbase on a 31.8" deck. thats a short and perfect for flip tricks wheelbase and size

    • @johntorres532
      @johntorres532 3 роки тому

      What trucks would you rock on those? I might be getting a a 8.12" with a wheelbase of 14.25 but idk if I should get a thunder or independents.

    • @bonelles
      @bonelles 3 роки тому +1

      @@johntorres532 dude, nowadays im rocking the 139 ventures highs, but i used to rock thunders 148s and they were perfect! i just downsized my trucks cus im a short dude ahahha

    • @johntorres532
      @johntorres532 3 роки тому +2

      @@bonelles it's okay I'm short too lol I'm just coming back to skating after 10 years and I'm getting a 8.12" primitive deck with a wb of 14.25 and I've tried ventures and thunders before but idk if I should try some indys. But idk which one should i get i want a nice pop but i dont want nothing to low or too high

    • @bonelles
      @bonelles 3 роки тому +1

      @@johntorres532 i would go with thunders! even the high ones arent as high as indys. i would go with thunders 148!

    • @johntorres532
      @johntorres532 3 роки тому

      @@bonelles yeah I've noticed thunder 147s do fit an 8 12"deck but I see thunder 148s fit a 8.12"deck. Your thought and opinion on which one? They both fit it but does it matter which I choose

  • @jonnymills1021
    @jonnymills1021 2 роки тому +1

    I bought one of these and then after one session purchased another

  • @h1r1
    @h1r1 3 роки тому

    Aren't there alot of boards with less than 14.25 inch wheelbase tho?
    Like isn't 14inch the standard?

    • @reza_dc2
      @reza_dc2 3 роки тому +1

      no it's not standard , most decks are 14.25.

  • @thedude11890
    @thedude11890 Рік тому +1

    Wheel base is from center of one hole 🕳️ to other 🕳️

  • @mikeschmidt4800
    @mikeschmidt4800 3 роки тому +1

    I'm wondering why my catalog hasn't arrived. Do you all not want me to buy from you? I'm not doing it online for nostalgia and principle purposes.

  • @internet_internet
    @internet_internet 3 роки тому +1

    Science, I concur.

  • @Cats.4479
    @Cats.4479 Рік тому +1

    Who is this guy he's shredding

  • @dillpickles5317
    @dillpickles5317 3 роки тому

    Shreds

  • @clever-username
    @clever-username 3 роки тому +2

    so this is why elijah berle's board looks so tiny on him?

  • @sponger-qo9wf
    @sponger-qo9wf 3 роки тому +1

    my nephew is fat and short 4'x4'. this is the board for him. thx FIENDS!

  • @boopydoopy4144
    @boopydoopy4144 3 роки тому +2

    What wheels are those

    • @davidwilbur114
      @davidwilbur114 3 роки тому +1

      OJs’ 87 a I think it’s 80 something but now he rides his pro models ok juice minis 55mm 75a

  • @Lukashtnr
    @Lukashtnr 3 роки тому +2

    Is it better than a Baker

  • @arcosrichard1302
    @arcosrichard1302 3 роки тому

    That trey bomb was more of a mob skater xl trey

  • @That1kid304
    @That1kid304 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite deck just broke the one in vid 2days ago the purple one is on its way now 💜

    • @blackbartsimps0n560
      @blackbartsimps0n560 3 роки тому

      I ride the santa cruz version... 9" 14.25WB and I'm 6'2 180 Never going back to 8.5

    • @s.ibnihenry.abdullah2165
      @s.ibnihenry.abdullah2165 3 роки тому

      @@blackbartsimps0n560 I'm past many who where 180 skated 7.75 even some slated 7.5, I think but yeah I guess this kind with small wheelbase for some of help in maneuverability may be nice stability like vert I think longer wheelbase if I remember right some of flipping may be easier with very narrow boards even think alaonin way like some of kind of little wider boards in some ways even tho a 9 is way big size that I'm kkt sure would suit me, I think maybe 8.25 or 8.375 bit I guess also a 8 or 8.125 in will think is nice size also for miniramp and street : )

  • @Helpme-dw3oy
    @Helpme-dw3oy 3 роки тому +1

    So much STEEZE

  • @basedwood
    @basedwood 3 роки тому

    Coffin Grind !!!!!

  • @transferz
    @transferz 3 роки тому

    I thinks we are the same height?

  • @Anonymous-kr3cj
    @Anonymous-kr3cj 3 роки тому

    Speaking of wheelbase. I haven't been able to find a 8.25 deck under or 14 inches in wheelbase.

    • @piggytrombone
      @piggytrombone 2 роки тому +1

      frog’s 8.25 decks usually run a 14 wb

    • @yosuozi2587
      @yosuozi2587 2 роки тому

      Try April or Primitive, they have decks with that exact specifications

  • @SubterraneanChick
    @SubterraneanChick 3 роки тому +1

    I am taller than all my local male skater counterparts. Their heads are deceptively large Marge.

  • @5hanesBoard
    @5hanesBoard 3 роки тому

    That reminds me; I need a new lampshade.

  • @darkwingduck7212
    @darkwingduck7212 3 роки тому +3

    No, I hate short wheelbases! For me it’s got to be 14.25 and up!

  • @marissac870
    @marissac870 3 роки тому

    More 8.8 s in the world please

  • @gavincleland9010
    @gavincleland9010 3 роки тому

    Does annnnnyone know of a decent deck that's close to 8.38 or 8.5 by 33

  • @basedwood
    @basedwood 3 роки тому +1

    John Gardner rips

  • @TROMBELE
    @TROMBELE 3 роки тому

    Yes

  • @alexaquiningoc6239
    @alexaquiningoc6239 3 роки тому

    So they just have the dimensions of their Santa Cruz counterparts. I prefer Santa Cruz for this very reason

  • @seppeduts758
    @seppeduts758 3 роки тому +1

    Nobody gonna talk about his hat?

  • @juanmibro4296
    @juanmibro4296 2 роки тому

    But that was not really a short wheelbase, thats the standard isn´t it?

  • @markosoltys1126
    @markosoltys1126 3 роки тому +6

    3:18 lil kader

  • @uoaccessoires4646
    @uoaccessoires4646 3 роки тому

    Jared leto reviewing a creature skateboard

  • @tiptucker9523
    @tiptucker9523 Рік тому +1

    Life uh… finds a way…

  • @birdinreality8928
    @birdinreality8928 3 роки тому

    If ur legs are too short for the board it would be hard to get leverage

  • @dangeejr
    @dangeejr 3 роки тому

    Dude it's science 🧪

  • @BlackJacketJones
    @BlackJacketJones 8 місяців тому

    I want a 13.75 wheelbase on a 8.25 egg shape. Doesn’t seem to exist

  • @aquastreak11
    @aquastreak11 3 роки тому +3

    This dude is the reason TFunk quit DC

    • @danielgonz8795
      @danielgonz8795 3 роки тому

      Why?

    • @aquastreak11
      @aquastreak11 3 роки тому

      ​@@danielgonz8795 john gardener became the team manager for DC shoes during a trip and there was some like conflict between them (john said so in thrasher) and so i think tfunk switched to cons partly because of that and because converse cons shoes are sick and the team is too. i think tfunk was maybe like making fun or messing with him idk

    • @hentaifansandpfpusermustdi7021
      @hentaifansandpfpusermustdi7021 2 роки тому

      Okay and?

  • @draindog
    @draindog 3 роки тому

    what shoes r those!?!??!?!?

    • @goop6007
      @goop6007 3 роки тому +1

      dc josh kalis

    • @Chleba3267
      @Chleba3267 3 роки тому

      the vulc version of course

  • @remcofranck3267
    @remcofranck3267 3 роки тому

    I skate the same but in VX

  • @OhighOSkater
    @OhighOSkater 3 роки тому +1

    Science and shit ftw 🤘

  • @dustinyamchuk7400
    @dustinyamchuk7400 4 місяці тому

    8.8?‽???

  • @koreejackson4328
    @koreejackson4328 3 роки тому +1

    Dude fucking rips

  • @Windds
    @Windds 3 роки тому

    Why does John Gardener look like Chris McCandless