10:20 what he says about the landfill being organised is not so much about, here's a stack of mattresses, there are the dishwashers, here's a pile of cloth, but he's seeing the landfill as a whole. All of these things are trash, they've been grouped together as trash, all of this has been sorted into the category of trash, therefore it is orderly, even though the mattresses and dishwashers are mixed together. As opposed to if the trash had been spilled all over the place. It's a the trees and the forest kind of thing. When trees are grouped together you don't see the trees anymore, but a forest, whereas if there's a tree here and there it's not a forest, just individual trees. Si sees the forest, therefore it is organised. Se sees individual trees, therefore it is messy. It's not a mess until you start seeing the individual pieces. That's my take on it, anyway. Or my take on his take😅 Really appreciate these interviews.
The difference that I find between Se and Si is that Si usually seems intentional about its physical outcomes. Like.. how you were describing your experience with practicing writing music, that you would "show up" each night with a "pen and a paper" and "see what happens". While for Si.. this process feels different, at least in my observed experience. Me with a self identified Si third, I kinda see myself being kinda intentional about my physical actions. I mainly "think" let's say a lot before doing an action, because ultimately I know that when I do a specific action a specific end result is intended. So I might delay acting for a longer period of time, let's say, but when I do it.. usually I observed that the end result I intended somehow gets manifested to a certain degree. For example.. if we would take this case of a person wanting to write music, I might actually delay writing the music until a certain powerful inspiration comes.. because in my world this is how I've known, through past experiences, that a valuable piece of music usually comes out. And if I would feel that inspiration lacking.. I would perhaps decide not to act, or do something "better" - let's say - with my energy and time. And if - let's say - I would have observed through past experiences, that that inspiration seems to come when I walk in nature, or meditate, or listen to some specific music, I would probably chose to do these actions first before trying to write music. Overall my theory and observations is that the Intraverted Functions are much more deliberate and intentional, while the Extraverted Functions are much more explorative and playful.
but there are masculine and feminine versions of si. so one of those definitely gonna think less. then if you are blast first or play first then you will think even less. then there's no difference left because all these mods, all these parameters, changes the default si definition and makes it unrecognizable. so then your type is something like this: short fire longsword of freeze
Really interesting about the Ti needing confirmation. I've seen this in my friend but with Fi. She rarely ever communicates her feelings but every now and then she needs confirmation that what she is feeling is appropriate for the reasons. As if she's fine tuning her values. Anyone else see the same?
@@SaadetOZTRK I think it's just an Si thing, I talked to micheal about it, we came to the conclusion that Se: focuses on the actions that a person can do then the Title, Si: focuses on the Title meaning you can do the actions, therefore your identity is the title not the actions
That was a really good one. And Bin, you're getting much more skilled at following and redirecting Ne, keep up the good work!
Aww thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
10:20 what he says about the landfill being organised is not so much about, here's a stack of mattresses, there are the dishwashers, here's a pile of cloth, but he's seeing the landfill as a whole. All of these things are trash, they've been grouped together as trash, all of this has been sorted into the category of trash, therefore it is orderly, even though the mattresses and dishwashers are mixed together. As opposed to if the trash had been spilled all over the place.
It's a the trees and the forest kind of thing. When trees are grouped together you don't see the trees anymore, but a forest, whereas if there's a tree here and there it's not a forest, just individual trees.
Si sees the forest, therefore it is organised.
Se sees individual trees, therefore it is messy.
It's not a mess until you start seeing the individual pieces.
That's my take on it, anyway. Or my take on his take😅
Really appreciate these interviews.
That's exactly what I was trying to say. Much better then how I blasted it
Could be wrong but already the first few minutes it’s a struggle of understanding the others internal reasons (logic?) and an NeSe clash 😂
The difference that I find between Se and Si is that Si usually seems intentional about its physical outcomes. Like.. how you were describing your experience with practicing writing music, that you would "show up" each night with a "pen and a paper" and "see what happens". While for Si.. this process feels different, at least in my observed experience. Me with a self identified Si third, I kinda see myself being kinda intentional about my physical actions. I mainly "think" let's say a lot before doing an action, because ultimately I know that when I do a specific action a specific end result is intended. So I might delay acting for a longer period of time, let's say, but when I do it.. usually I observed that the end result I intended somehow gets manifested to a certain degree. For example.. if we would take this case of a person wanting to write music, I might actually delay writing the music until a certain powerful inspiration comes.. because in my world this is how I've known, through past experiences, that a valuable piece of music usually comes out. And if I would feel that inspiration lacking.. I would perhaps decide not to act, or do something "better" - let's say - with my energy and time. And if - let's say - I would have observed through past experiences, that that inspiration seems to come when I walk in nature, or meditate, or listen to some specific music, I would probably chose to do these actions first before trying to write music. Overall my theory and observations is that the Intraverted Functions are much more deliberate and intentional, while the Extraverted Functions are much more explorative and playful.
but there are masculine and feminine versions of si. so one of those definitely gonna think less. then if you are blast first or play first then you will think even less. then there's no difference left because all these mods, all these parameters, changes the default si definition and makes it unrecognizable.
so then your type is something like this: short fire longsword of freeze
Interesting take.
Worth considering
Really interesting about the Ti needing confirmation. I've seen this in my friend but with Fi. She rarely ever communicates her feelings but every now and then she needs confirmation that what she is feeling is appropriate for the reasons. As if she's fine tuning her values. Anyone else see the same?
Yes, this pattern holds.
Without the confirmation we can become delusional.
Thanks for the shout out Eric! You were a hard one to type! 💟
No problem! I certainly was a tough nut to crack!
so many erics' in the community
Huh?
the obsession with labels seems to be an energy-dom thing.
Or m si
@@SaadetOZTRK I think it's just an Si thing, I talked to micheal about it, we came to the conclusion that
Se: focuses on the actions that a person can do then the Title,
Si: focuses on the Title meaning you can do the actions, therefore your identity is the title not the actions
@@koalaguy2153 oh really interesting! thank you for sharing that