Can we discuss how fitting it was to have Edie Falco cast as Hilary Clinton in “American Crime Story: Impeachment”? Even in “The Sopranos” they made parallels to Mrs. Clinton and the mafia wives of that show. Carmela/Edie Falco is truly the First Lady of modern day TV drama wife of anti-hero husband.
I think a sane person watching the show would realize pretty quickly that Walt is mostly wrong, his lying is obnoxious and not always necessary and his wife is a saint for tolerating him. However, someone who sees BB as a "omg so badass SAY MY NAME" and puts themselves in the shoes of the main character to their own ethical detriment would become religiously attached to Walt, bending to his narcissistic will and drinking in that power fantasy like a 5th grade english student about to get an F on their deconstruction of The Little Engine That Could.
Lady MacBeth is the quintessential example of "The Woman Behind the Man". It is her who initially urges a reluctant MacBeth to kill Duncan for their own gain, but once the murder occurs, she feels immense guilt, while MacBeth is mostly indifferent.
Sometimes people need to share the guilt - the one person says that they never actually did anything, while the other claims it wasn't their decision so it's not their fault. Some people say that slaughterhouse workers are psychopaths while having no guilt about buying or eating meat. Pure cognitive dissonance.
Lady Macbeth is a stereotypical scapegoating of women. The witch trope. So the protagonist remains clear conscience and the reader can root for him. Eventually it's easier to make audience hate a woman. Look at skyler from BB
@@DeathnoteBB even grown people can be manipulated. Even in a real life court knowing what we do about her could easily see Lady Macbeth going down for murder in the 2nd and conspiracy to murder.. She does share in the blame it just doesn't absolve Macbeth.
Bojack and Diane would sort of fit in this category. People would love Bojack despite doing a lot of unspeakable choices while Diane would get hate for basic choices. The interview episode in Season 6 showed why you should stop being on Bojack's side.
Actually it was in Season 5 when Bojack gives a speech of Philbert that it makes shitty people feel ok about there actions while Diane confronted him thats not what he should feel after everything he has done, he has to own responsability
Diane wasn't disliked because she abetted his behaviour like sooo many others, she was disliked for a much greater crime ( in literature) - being annoying.
I think the hate some of these TV wives get for standing in the way of the hero's (and our) further grafitication just shows the deep-seated and unconscious sexist bias we all (women included) still have.
This is exactly what happens. When they put a character in the way of the hero and the plot we aim to watch that character becomes “troublesome”, “annoying” even “hateful” to us. It happends very often too. Usually in action movies where the plot involves taking the female lead away for her safety. She will still be unaware of any danger or even the existence of the male lead yet (so from her perspective a random guy is kidnapping her therefore she struggles/ argues/complains/ sometimes tries to escape) all things we would expect from someone taken without consent. But to us, that know what’s happening, that know she is safe and the lead is a “good guy” , she is being very annoying.
I don't think it's that simple. If you watch Better Call Saul, the love interest for our main character is beloved and she is a she. If it was sexism, wouldn't it stand to reason the fans would hate her? The character that is most like the Skyler character is Jimmy's brother, Chuck. He is hated by fans. I think people love to just use sexism or misogyny to explain something like this, but when fans hate a male character, it's not misogyny, but people don't ever seem to make the connection that it's for the same reasons that we might hate a female character.
2 things: The tableau of Walt Jr. shielding Skylar always makes me wanna cry. He's a young kid with a disability, but that doesn't stop him from stepping up. That is a diamond moment in an already diamond series 💖 And the premise for Kevin Can F*ck Himself is absolute genius. We see Kevin's perspective as a fun, whacky sitcom where everyone loves his goofy shenanigans, but Alison's perspective is very much an unappreciated, misunderstood, trapped woman by her husband's 'goofiness'.... brilliant stuff 👌
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Oh hell yeah! The fact that they actually bothered to hire an actor with CP for that role speaks volumes about how committed they were to getting everything in that production right, and how far the rest of the media has to come, relating to both characters and performers with disabilities!
@@neuralmute Also especially since disabled characters are depicted as innocent and naive Pollyannas or wise beyond their years and Walt Jr is a regular teenager
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 yes, that would be great! There's also a development in that, and tropes to be observed. The first that I recall, where a character had a disability, but wasn't his disability was in Friday Night Lights. They didn't tiptoe around issues he faced because he was paraplegic, but they also didn't reduce Jason to just that. At the same time, he wasn't played by a person who is dealing with a disability, which nowadays, you see more often, as with Isaac in Sex Education.
I think if you’re rooting form him, and liking his actions then he is an anti-hero. Now that’s just the way the character can be portrayed or written. Villains and hero are not as easy as black and white. If the story it’s told from a certain perspective and have no moral judgement of the character, someone like Walter even tho in real life would be considered a villain, in the story and how everything evolves around him, he is the “hero” of the story. And we have seen than in many films recently: Cruella, joker, The suicide squad, etc.
I never understood it either, she wasn't greedy. She was just happy making a sale on Ebay, and as far as asking his old business partner for money, why not? He was the co-founder of the company, if they wanted to pay the hospital bills there waa no shame in that 😒
@@ennuiblue4295 exactly! If his number one goal was really only to ensure his family was taken care of, he would’ve swallowed his pride and took the money.
I couldn't help but hate Skyler when I first watched Breaking Bad. And as a woman, and a feminist, it felt so conflicting, because I KNEW she was basically the only sane person in the series and that she had a valid reason behind each of her decisions.
It was because she was annoying as fuck. Other than that she's pretty much the only sane character in the show. Also did I mention I hated the bald drug cop (forgot his name shit) Jesus what a pushover. I hated his guts.
The need to hate Skyler is a result of Anna Gunn doing really good acting. It is also from imagining what she was like before Walt´s descent into evil. Even before Walt cooked his first batch of meth, Skyler wanted the fruits of Walt´s labor from having two jobs and a miserable life. After Walt became evil, she still wanted to keep the money and benefits of Walt´s meth cooking.
I think it's just the framing. We often like the protsgonist that the show tells us to love even when he's a horrible person, like Ted from himym. We root for Walter White and Skyler is in the way most of the time. If it was her show, we'd root for her.
Gemma from Sons of Anarchy needs a whole section. The show was Hamlet, but she was Lady MacBeth. A blind spot of this essay is probably Taraji P. Henson from "Empire" and what antihero wives look like from shows starring poc, not to mention those based off true stories like Narcos.
Thank you! I was wondering why Empire and Narcos wasn't included. I liked the video essay, but it missed out of more depth to the Trope by discussing the women of color. The closest to diversity this got is different shades of blonde.
I never really got how Don could be an abusive shite of a husband to Betty and ppl still loved him and hated her. I mean, I get that he was interesting and complex as a character, but looking over his charisma and his behaviour isn't any better than Roger's or Pete's.
Really? I am watching the Show right now and i LOATHE him. Not for being piece of Sh*t. For being someone who does the same stuff over and over again but still sees himself as the victim. And never learns. No Matter which Woman He hurts, No Matter what happens. Betty is too boring for him so He Cheats (tbf thats too simplistic, rather, Don is too emotionally damaged to be Faithful. Cheating is almost a compulsion for him and it seems like he actively tries to destroy his Home Life). Meg wants a career and He loves that... Until shes actually successful. Then He loses His Shit that someone could See His property on TV. And that doesnt even Account for all the stuff around the Office, His superiority complex and the way He holds His support over Peggy when she wants a career. Turns out even If you dont f*ck Don, youre still His property
I didn’t hate Betty especially during the fire few seasons. She wasn’t so beautiful and feminine just the epitome of the 50’s housewife. I didn’t like how she treated Bobby and her bratty behavior after she divorced Don. She started to mellow out as the show progressed and she got over her anger with Don.
I wish the anti-heros wives could have a club were they all just sit and talk about how awful their husbands are Carmela and Skyler would totally win by the way lol
@@theunknown5386 I agree with you. But people like the ones who replied to you is incapable of any argument outside of ad hominem and argument from emotion, and it is fruitless to ask them for logical statements. Usually, people like this become like this because they got hurt and now wish to keep telling themselves that anyone who ever questions their ego is either an incel or a pickme. Their self-esteem does not come from their own strengths, but from insulting others' non-existent weaknesses. As for the original post, yeah no, there is nothing complex about these women. Interesting, maybe. But nothing too deep.
Betty Draper has become one of my favourite TV characters. From the very first time I watched Mad Men (and fell in love with it) back in '07, I hated the level of hate she received. I am so glad she getting the understanding she deserves. What I would give for a mini-series or a movie based on her perspective or her life before Don. After watching your and other breakdown of various female characters I have tried watching shows like Breaking Bad and Sopranos, but I can't get into them as these characters are not fleshed out well. I wish they got more screen time.
The way I could not even remember her name before Don Draper and her next husband Francis Hosftadr The few times she let herself stray from the 50's standards of a good wife were rare so she barely was herself. Mad men is so complex and well developed it's one of the best shows ever
There is a really good video essay on UA-cam, maybe even by The Take called "The Tragedy of Betty Draper." I'm a huge Mad Men fan and it gave a lot of perspective
@@lujaynmigdadi Betty is even worse than Don. She isn't a good wife as she has a maid to do all her cooking and cleaning during the week and often at the weekends when the maid is not working she can't be bothered to cook. All she has to do is the washing up after the family eat the evening meal that the maid cooked. Like that one Sunday when the Drapers were to host or attend a barbecue but couldn't be bothered and they lay in bed all day. That's why Sally has had to learn to cook from an early age to make sure she and her brothers got something to eat.
@@maggiebarbour4831 yep I watched it. I watched almost all Mad Men videos and scanned almost every comment section I could get my hands on 😂😂 I love that show
I never actually finished watching Mad Men but for the entirety of the time i watched, Betty was always my favorite character. I just found her far more interesting than the show wanted me to think Don was.
Don is the character i single handedly hated the Most because... He never evolves. I hated everything about him but also Love the Show. So i end Up watching the Show and hissing the entire time Like an angry cat and wishing Joan would Run him over in a Car or sth.
I didn't love Don, but he was an interesting character to watch. But honestly, Mad Men's most interesting pieces were always the characters around him. I think it's ironic that the characters I found most interesting in Mad -Men- were often the women: Peggy, Betty, Sally, Megan, etc. That's not to say I didn't think there were male characters who were greatly interesting, but I think they don't stand out quite as much or for as long. Pete might be my one exception, but he's a roller coaster from start to finish. "Not great, Bob!"
Blonde is the prize. Being married to a Blonde-haired woman symbolises upward social mobility. Blonde = former sorority college girl/ideal suburban (aka upper middle class) mom.
Oooo I didn't know I wanted this but I like it. Can you talk about "The Mistress" and the "Big Beautiful Woman"? And also the "Bougie Black Woman" and also how in the 90s/00s we were assaulted with images and demands that real women be super-toned and super slim while cartoon women were illustrated with voluptuous curves, especially below the waist?
you missed mentioning the series Good girls, where three moms become involved with the local mafia of the suburbs they live in and the "main" of the three, Elizabeth, gets deeper and deeper into this second life and identity to cope doing criminal activities for her family but also because she deep down, enjoys it
Would love to see you guys analyze the show Good Girls from this lens. The wife doing the crimes while the husband is against it provides a very different dynamic.
Never understood why Anna Gunn got death threats for playing a character on a tv show. Skylar didn't make things easy for Walt and that caused tension. If you take away Skylar from the show, it would be a lot less interesting. Anna Gunn played her really well and the reason I liked Skylar as a character was because she was flawed. She's the type of woman I would never choose to be friends with, but she was the sounds of reason and she was mostly right.
I think it's sad that Skylar is not someone we would naturally want to be friends with, I think it's a byproduct of the fact that the wife has to be the "not fun" one that rains on everyone's parades, because running a household is stressful and frequently involves putting a stop to risky or costly behavior.
I really like how the American version of "House of Cards" portrays Claire and Frank relationship. There too, you understand that while Frank's a menace, Claire's the real one to fear because she holds the reigns and is the most ruthless of the two.
I feel like we need to go e Betty more credit. Even though she gets cancer in the end, it didn't halt her completely in the past. She went to school again with the limited time she has left for someone who has been everyone's prop; she finally doing something she wants
Yeah, and he put that in the pilot, straight after a cancer diagnosis. I thought Vince was a bit out of order slagging off his own fans for sexism, and not putting his hands up for blatantly positioning that character in such an unpleasant way in the first episode.
@@mankytoes Wow. Just made a response to your comment and it got deleted. It said something like Skylar had also wanted Walter off in bed whilst bidding for items on eBay. I then said Vince Gilligan was disingenuous (as you also said) for doing that and then start crying sexism at BB more fanatical (not to mention misogynistic) followers. I wonder if this will be deleted as well.
The Take is criminally under viewed and underrated. Always such great insight to tropes and genres of media we consume. Thanks for making such intriguing content. Hope one day it catches on and you can make the big bucks!
I’d like The Take to do a few episodes explicitly exploring narrative archetypes. This is a start but I’d like to see this channel talk about universality.
I think the wife in the Ozarks is far from the typical anti hero wife. She is literally the brains behind the operation AND way clever than her husband
this channel has a video on the portrayal of blonde women in media, and I assume these characters are all "icy blondes". Betty Draper is definitely an icy blonde. I think Carmella is the only blonde character on the show, obviously dyed blonde as a choice. All the characters, including her, are supposed to be from an ethnic group where that's not a common natural hair color, nor blue a common eye color. I read it as coding her as an icy blonde. Skylar's hair color looks more red but I guess close enough to icy blonde?
Great video as always but this should’ve really included The Shield, which has 2 countering Anti-hero wives, with Corrine and Mara. It would’ve truly been perfect to include them here. I would love if you would do videos on The Shield, one of the most overlooked shows nowadays that deserves praise like The Wire and The Sopranos imo.
"Andy Warhol would change his perfume constantly..." You mean he'd rotate scents depending on how he feels that day? That's interesting. "...to capture that period in his life." So every few years? That's normal, isn't it?
Surprised Justified's Ava Crowder wasn't in this discussion. She fits the archetype pretty neatly, even when being pulled between the show's two leading men. Gorgeous blonde trophy, self-destructive and increasingly trapped, and unable to resist being pulled into the criminal life.
My biggest problem with Carmela is how she acts so holier than thou and acts like she's divorced from tony's crimes. and its like Lady your very responsible its called aiding and abetting. Her talking about how Tony is going to hell and she isn't always rubbed me the wrong way. I'm still on season one though maybe she gets at the very least more interesting.
These videos are so interesting. In Game of Thrones there were there were 2 anti heroes but they were women who ultimately had to deal with the seemingly lesser men in their lives
See you guys in a couple months when I finish _The Sopranos_ and _Mad Men_ and can watch this video without fearing spoilers. The world keep telling me to watch these.
Ben Affleck's character in gone girl also proves to be such type of character, as he returns to her, with large part of her horrible/sociopathic trait as an attractive feature.
Is that really much better? It would mean that we are complacent with the horrors of the world, and we rather live in selfish denial than do anything to change the situation for the better and we would rather take the easy way out. It’s just another form of evil, not as bad as Tony’s but still evil
Anyone else noticed all those ladies are blonde? Wonder if that also has simbolism (after all blonde hair constantly is used as symbol of purity and innocence)
5:19 - What? People would be part of a religion to create a façade of moral superiority?!? Say it isn't so! /sarcasm Seriously, I think that's actually a _feature_ of a number of religions, not a bug. 7:00 - Clearly, we would _not_ do the right thing. American history is story after story of Americans failing to do the right thing. And that's just counting the stories that are too well documented to hide!!! And, oh, hey, look at how religious Americans are compared to say people in European countries at present! As I said, the façade is a feature, not a bug.
I love, love this. I never noticed the connection between these ladies but it makes total sense. I'm also glad they're getting some love after all the hate when these shows first aired. Maybe some of us have been married to anti heros and realize it's not so great 😆
Hi, I love the content you guys put out. Could you please do a video on this topic? Women getting impregnated by aliens in horror/sci-fi movies. Women turning into bloated hives for alien reproduction. A man getting impregnated by an otherworldly seductress. Misogynist, sexist, rape culture or just pushing a fear of aliens? Is it possible to make a good alien horror movie without resorting to aliens impregnating women?
@@sen7826 Um...Did you see Alien vs Predator: Requiem, and Slither? Type up Movie Recapped impregnate on UA-cam. You will be surprised at what comes up.
@@StrikerVaskin dude youtube channels like that use clickbaity titles and descriptions like that all the time, not because hollywood is trying to equate aliens with impregnation of women, but because it's clickbaity and the point of my reply was that in the quintessential alien horrors, men got impregnated, and one of those even had a woman as the only survivor. So get over your hollywood alien sexism lmao
@@sen7826 It is still an interesting topic to talk about. By the way, it's not just hollywood. You see this in Italian, French and Russian horror movies.
In the 1980s tv show V, a girl (she was in high school) being impregnated and giving birth to an alien baby was a story arc. I think the trope is part body horror and xenophobia, really. And of course in this case, teen girl having sex leads to punishment.
I like to think I wouldn't do it but a big part of me could see being Carmela. Just being taken care of and never ever having to worry about financial insecurity?? Who wouldn't be tempted yknow?? Especially when you yourself don't have to get your hands dirty.
I never saw Skyler as the villain and I did not even know that was a thing until after I watched the last episode. I just saw her trying to get him out because he got to sucked in. It fell on her until she rightfully was fed up and realized that he did not want out.
I don't hate Skyler, but I don't care if other people do. The thing that I hate is when people can't seem to separate the character from the actress. I don't think it's as simple as misogyny, though. I mean, maybe that's part of it, but to just dismiss it as men who hate women doesn't do anything to figure out why people can't separate a character from the actor who plays the character.
I really enjoy your takes! I don’t agree with premise that Tony or Walter are anti-heroes though. They both are sociopaths and not “heroic” in any way, (at least a character like Dexter kills other killers.).
@@lydiafayre9806 I don’t disagree! I also know take was about wives. It does open flood gates (a bit) when we apply that term (anti-hero) to those characters that have no redeeming qualities (other than poorly taking care of family), which is not “heroic” in any way. People who have families are SUPPOSED to take care of them.
@@jamessmith7909 I think you're overlooking the significance of the word "anti", is the thing. It's like...in the beginning of the early christian church, anti-christ wasn't the specific single prophetic figure that it's been made into in modern media, for example--it was anyone who was considered opposed to the teaching's of Yeshua Ben Yosef. Now we're talking a complex tract of linguistic development, but the remaining link here is that "anti-blank" is very decidedly and very specifically drawing an oppositional contrast from "blank." If you call a character "anti-hero" and they DO have actually heroic qualities, that's when you're misusing the term.
@@lydiafayre9806 Religion aside, you have to use context of current cultural definition. The character you’re describing is just a villain vs anti-hero ( i.e Captain America vs Deadpool vs Red Skull ). That middle area is where the anti-hero applies in today’s context, in my opinion. I take your meaning however as well.
audiences usually sympathize with the gangster or drug lord or whatever but his wife is apparently seen as the devil even if she doesn’t do half the bad things he does 🙄
It can tell me what I want what I don't know what I want.. Fuuuuuuuuk. That is so fucking dark. Thats what I got for ever..ever expecting anything else
I won't lie, I'm extremely disappointed Karen from Goodfellas wasn't mentioned even once, Especially with Jessie Reyez bringing it back in, "Do you love Her" recently.
carmela is annoying because she's can come up as hollow, betty is difficult for me to comment on because i understand her struggles (despite me not being close to the beauty of january jones), there's nothing harder than being an angry woman, a hungry woman in a world that expects you to be calm, and skyler is annoying because we're obviously not rooting for walter to stop doing crime
I think Shakespeare had a prototype-Skyler in Othello. SPOILERS: The antagonist, Iago, has a wife, Emilia. She’s just as smart as he is, maybe even smarter, since she knows how the world works and that femininity and sex can be used to advance careers, while Iago stews in his misogyny. She is compliant with his bad actions, obeying his orders and taking his abuse, but ultimately challenges him directly and is the one person to piece it all together and foil Iago’s plans. She loves Iago, but when her husband’s abuse is targeted at and affects her friends, she snaps and spills the beans. And that gets her killed.
Skinny, white blonde women have been the standard for beauty for a very long time. Therefore, wealthy antihero wives want to look like that standard. And sociopathic antihero husbands most likely sought that out because “that’s what wives are supposed to look like.” It’s a quick and easy way to create an illusion of the ideal family that will not draw attention.
I don't know ..I just roots for those parents who deal with bullies ...bullying a serious problem but it is so much normalised to such an extent that people defend it as a part of growing up ...I want you to make video on bullying ,and it was never properly addressed at the end like in realistic manner ..recently from UK , the shocking news broke out of sexual harrassment of teenage girls by their classmates .....in movies generally it is shown as a problem which could be dealt by our underdog protagonist through emulating the bully himself or acquiring supernatural power ...such message is problematic because it asserts that children finally have to deal it on their own , no parents, no teachers, no community, no institution could ever helped then or took the reforms
I was a fan of the channel until I realized that The Take it never takes a true position. He exposes the problem and then says the "positive" side of this problem, which consists of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and sexism. It's like saying "oh this is absurd but look on the bright side".
Yer I noticed that too. The take is the ultimate fence sitter. They'll make some great points often times things you wouldn't have noticed otherwise. But then as you said they just play devil's advocate. And if they do lean into an opinion it's usually the most popular take. They just pretend to be originals and contrary. I still find the videos mostly interesting but they aren't as deep as they think they are.
@@AirQuotes Like in that video where they say "The Boomers are ok" and they are the most racist and supremacist make america great again generation. Boomers are not ok @TheTake
The first episode of Breaking Bad, showing Skyler as a nag cued viewers into disliking her fir the test of the show. I also think she was more complex in the sense that for a while she was an accomplice to Walt, but this was out of self preservation
Where would Robin Wright’s character from house of cards for in this? It’s been a very long time since I’ve watched the show, but she seemed to be more in charge at least toward the end of the show?
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Can we discuss how fitting it was to have Edie Falco cast as Hilary Clinton in “American Crime Story: Impeachment”?
Even in “The Sopranos” they made parallels to Mrs. Clinton and the mafia wives of that show.
Carmela/Edie Falco is truly the First Lady of modern day TV drama wife of anti-hero husband.
Shes a REFLECTION OF HIM REALLY! Why choose a Immoral &Insecure Guy in the First place? THAT'S WHAT SHE IS!
I never understood the hate towards Skyler. She did what a sensible human would do.
You answered your own question. It’s the misogyny
Vince Gilligan stated that the show mainpulates the people to hate Skyler
Indeed, it's not really Skyler's fault, though she tries to help Walt after his deception is revealed.
If your protagonist is cooking meth behind his wife’s back, the narrative will automatically frame her actions as antagonistic
I think a sane person watching the show would realize pretty quickly that Walt is mostly wrong, his lying is obnoxious and not always necessary and his wife is a saint for tolerating him. However, someone who sees BB as a "omg so badass SAY MY NAME" and puts themselves in the shoes of the main character to their own ethical detriment would become religiously attached to Walt, bending to his narcissistic will and drinking in that power fantasy like a 5th grade english student about to get an F on their deconstruction of The Little Engine That Could.
Lady MacBeth is the quintessential example of "The Woman Behind the Man". It is her who initially urges a reluctant MacBeth to kill Duncan for their own gain, but once the murder occurs, she feels immense guilt, while MacBeth is mostly indifferent.
Julie Nolke just did a skit about Lady Macbeth! It gets pointed out that MacBeth is a grown man that didn’t have to listen to her but he did
Sometimes people need to share the guilt - the one person says that they never actually did anything, while the other claims it wasn't their decision so it's not their fault. Some people say that slaughterhouse workers are psychopaths while having no guilt about buying or eating meat. Pure cognitive dissonance.
Lady Macbeth is a stereotypical scapegoating of women. The witch trope. So the protagonist remains clear conscience and the reader can root for him. Eventually it's easier to make audience hate a woman. Look at skyler from BB
@@sg_1541 yup, this 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
@@DeathnoteBB even grown people can be manipulated. Even in a real life court knowing what we do about her could easily see Lady Macbeth going down for murder in the 2nd and conspiracy to murder.. She does share in the blame it just doesn't absolve Macbeth.
Bojack and Diane would sort of fit in this category. People would love Bojack despite doing a lot of unspeakable choices while Diane would get hate for basic choices. The interview episode in Season 6 showed why you should stop being on Bojack's side.
... But ultimately, the point is that he's reaponsible for his own destructive behaviour, not the women around him. Right?
Actually it was in Season 5 when Bojack gives a speech of Philbert that it makes shitty people feel ok about there actions while Diane confronted him thats not what he should feel after everything he has done, he has to own responsability
This is the sign that Bojack requires my attention
@@carriebee5418 Everyone I’ve ever recommended this show to didn’t regret it lol get started!
Diane wasn't disliked because she abetted his behaviour like sooo many others, she was disliked for a much greater crime ( in literature) - being annoying.
I think the hate some of these TV wives get for standing in the way of the hero's (and our) further grafitication just shows the deep-seated and unconscious sexist bias we all (women included) still have.
Exactly this.
This is exactly what happens. When they put a character in the way of the hero and the plot we aim to watch that character becomes “troublesome”, “annoying” even “hateful” to us.
It happends very often too.
Usually in action movies where the plot involves taking the female lead away for her safety. She will still be unaware of any danger or even the existence of the male lead yet (so from her perspective a random guy is kidnapping her therefore she struggles/ argues/complains/ sometimes tries to escape) all things we would expect from someone taken without consent.
But to us, that know what’s happening, that know she is safe and the lead is a “good guy” , she is being very annoying.
I don't think it's that simple. If you watch Better Call Saul, the love interest for our main character is beloved and she is a she. If it was sexism, wouldn't it stand to reason the fans would hate her? The character that is most like the Skyler character is Jimmy's brother, Chuck. He is hated by fans. I think people love to just use sexism or misogyny to explain something like this, but when fans hate a male character, it's not misogyny, but people don't ever seem to make the connection that it's for the same reasons that we might hate a female character.
2 things:
The tableau of Walt Jr. shielding Skylar always makes me wanna cry. He's a young kid with a disability, but that doesn't stop him from stepping up. That is a diamond moment in an already diamond series 💖
And the premise for Kevin Can F*ck Himself is absolute genius. We see Kevin's perspective as a fun, whacky sitcom where everyone loves his goofy shenanigans, but Alison's perspective is very much an unappreciated, misunderstood, trapped woman by her husband's 'goofiness'.... brilliant stuff 👌
We need a video on Walt Jr or a video about characters with physical disabilities.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Oh hell yeah! The fact that they actually bothered to hire an actor with CP for that role speaks volumes about how committed they were to getting everything in that production right, and how far the rest of the media has to come, relating to both characters and performers with disabilities!
@@neuralmute Also especially since disabled characters are depicted as innocent and naive Pollyannas or wise beyond their years and Walt Jr is a regular teenager
I see
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 yes, that would be great! There's also a development in that, and tropes to be observed. The first that I recall, where a character had a disability, but wasn't his disability was in Friday Night Lights. They didn't tiptoe around issues he faced because he was paraplegic, but they also didn't reduce Jason to just that. At the same time, he wasn't played by a person who is dealing with a disability, which nowadays, you see more often, as with Isaac in Sex Education.
Walter White is not an anti-hero he is straight up a villain.
I assure you I poisoned that kid for the greater good of my family Jesse
Maybe the term anti-hero just means he is the MC and we see the story unfolds from his perspective.
I would argue he started off as an antihero and gradually transitioned to villain as protagonist
I think if you’re rooting form him, and liking his actions then he is an anti-hero. Now that’s just the way the character can be portrayed or written.
Villains and hero are not as easy as black and white. If the story it’s told from a certain perspective and have no moral judgement of the character, someone like Walter even tho in real life would be considered a villain, in the story and how everything evolves around him, he is the “hero” of the story. And we have seen than in many films recently: Cruella, joker, The suicide squad, etc.
🧢 ppl push Walt over the edge
skyler gets way too much hate, she reacted way better than anyone else in her position would've
I never understood it either, she wasn't greedy. She was just happy making a sale on Ebay, and as far as asking his old business partner for money, why not? He was the co-founder of the company, if they wanted to pay the hospital bills there waa no shame in that 😒
@@ennuiblue4295 exactly! If his number one goal was really only to ensure his family was taken care of, he would’ve swallowed his pride and took the money.
I couldn't help but hate Skyler when I first watched Breaking Bad. And as a woman, and a feminist, it felt so conflicting, because I KNEW she was basically the only sane person in the series and that she had a valid reason behind each of her decisions.
Same here, I hate dogpiling hate onto a female character, but for some reason Skylar really brings out my internalized misogyny.
Like when she fucked Ted? Or undermine her husband choice not to receive money from his ex and old friend?
It was because she was annoying as fuck. Other than that she's pretty much the only sane character in the show. Also did I mention I hated the bald drug cop (forgot his name shit) Jesus what a pushover. I hated his guts.
The need to hate Skyler is a result of Anna Gunn doing really good acting. It is also from imagining what she was like before Walt´s descent into evil. Even before Walt cooked his first batch of meth, Skyler wanted the fruits of Walt´s labor from having two jobs and a miserable life. After Walt became evil, she still wanted to keep the money and benefits of Walt´s meth cooking.
I think it's just the framing. We often like the protsgonist that the show tells us to love even when he's a horrible person, like Ted from himym. We root for Walter White and Skyler is in the way most of the time. If it was her show, we'd root for her.
Gemma from Sons of Anarchy needs a whole section. The show was Hamlet, but she was Lady MacBeth.
A blind spot of this essay is probably Taraji P. Henson from "Empire" and what antihero wives look like from shows starring poc, not to mention those based off true stories like Narcos.
This!!
Thank you! I was wondering why Empire and Narcos wasn't included. I liked the video essay, but it missed out of more depth to the Trope by discussing the women of color. The closest to diversity this got is different shades of blonde.
All of this!
I never really got how Don could be an abusive shite of a husband to Betty and ppl still loved him and hated her.
I mean, I get that he was interesting and complex as a character, but looking over his charisma and his behaviour isn't any better than Roger's or Pete's.
Both of them are complex characters. This is my first time hearing about people hating her.
Really? I am watching the Show right now and i LOATHE him. Not for being piece of Sh*t. For being someone who does the same stuff over and over again but still sees himself as the victim. And never learns. No Matter which Woman He hurts, No Matter what happens. Betty is too boring for him so He Cheats (tbf thats too simplistic, rather, Don is too emotionally damaged to be Faithful. Cheating is almost a compulsion for him and it seems like he actively tries to destroy his Home Life). Meg wants a career and He loves that... Until shes actually successful. Then He loses His Shit that someone could See His property on TV.
And that doesnt even Account for all the stuff around the Office, His superiority complex and the way He holds His support over Peggy when she wants a career. Turns out even If you dont f*ck Don, youre still His property
I didn’t hate Betty especially during the fire few seasons. She wasn’t so beautiful and feminine just the epitome of the 50’s housewife. I didn’t like how she treated Bobby and her bratty behavior after she divorced Don. She started to mellow out as the show progressed and she got over her anger with Don.
I wish the anti-heros wives could have a club were they all just sit and talk about how awful their husbands are Carmela and Skyler would totally win by the way lol
They still love them for it tho(although that might only be carmela)
Behind every great man there is a great woman. And finally we get to see the antihero's wife as this great complex woman behind.
@@theunknown5386 Lmao found the bitter misogynist
@@theunknown5386 jello troll. Still a virgin 😛😝 well it will stay that way.
@@theunknown5386 someone's in their feelings...
@@theunknown5386 I agree with you. But people like the ones who replied to you is incapable of any argument outside of ad hominem and argument from emotion, and it is fruitless to ask them for logical statements.
Usually, people like this become like this because they got hurt and now wish to keep telling themselves that anyone who ever questions their ego is either an incel or a pickme. Their self-esteem does not come from their own strengths, but from insulting others' non-existent weaknesses.
As for the original post, yeah no, there is nothing complex about these women. Interesting, maybe. But nothing too deep.
Betty Draper has become one of my favourite TV characters. From the very first time I watched Mad Men (and fell in love with it) back in '07, I hated the level of hate she received. I am so glad she getting the understanding she deserves. What I would give for a mini-series or a movie based on her perspective or her life before Don.
After watching your and other breakdown of various female characters I have tried watching shows like Breaking Bad and Sopranos, but I can't get into them as these characters are not fleshed out well. I wish they got more screen time.
The way I could not even remember her name before Don Draper and her next husband Francis Hosftadr
The few times she let herself stray from the 50's standards of a good wife were rare so she barely was herself. Mad men is so complex and well developed it's one of the best shows ever
There is a really good video essay on UA-cam, maybe even by The Take called "The Tragedy of Betty Draper." I'm a huge Mad Men fan and it gave a lot of perspective
@@lujaynmigdadi Betty is even worse than Don. She isn't a good wife as she has a maid to do all her cooking and cleaning during the week and often at the weekends when the maid is not working she can't be bothered to cook. All she has to do is the washing up after the family eat the evening meal that the maid cooked. Like that one Sunday when the Drapers were to host or attend a barbecue but couldn't be bothered and they lay in bed all day. That's why Sally has had to learn to cook from an early age to make sure she and her brothers got something to eat.
@@lemsip207 there’s no way you actually believe betty is worse than don😭
@@maggiebarbour4831 yep I watched it. I watched almost all Mad Men videos and scanned almost every comment section I could get my hands on 😂😂 I love that show
I never actually finished watching Mad Men but for the entirety of the time i watched, Betty was always my favorite character. I just found her far more interesting than the show wanted me to think Don was.
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Same.
Don wasnt it for me either
Don is the character i single handedly hated the Most because... He never evolves. I hated everything about him but also Love the Show. So i end Up watching the Show and hissing the entire time Like an angry cat and wishing Joan would Run him over in a Car or sth.
I didn't love Don, but he was an interesting character to watch. But honestly, Mad Men's most interesting pieces were always the characters around him. I think it's ironic that the characters I found most interesting in Mad -Men- were often the women: Peggy, Betty, Sally, Megan, etc. That's not to say I didn't think there were male characters who were greatly interesting, but I think they don't stand out quite as much or for as long. Pete might be my one exception, but he's a roller coaster from start to finish.
"Not great, Bob!"
Oh my god yes I stopped watching bc I just kinda found don boring as hell
Are we not going to even talk about how they are almost always blonde?
Goes against the 'blondes are dumb' archetype?
Blonde is the prize. Being married to a Blonde-haired woman symbolises upward social mobility. Blonde = former sorority college girl/ideal suburban (aka upper middle class) mom.
@@moustik31 Wow, I never thought it like that. Great analysts!!
Always! She has to function as a trophy he's collected, even if it's not always as explicit as it was in Mad Men "You two sold separately?"
Blondes are considered "annoying"
It would be interesting to discuss the "pastel pink=creepy" trope, like in Nosedive or Melanie Martinez movie, or the whole Umbridge thing
There's also the Paradise Hills movie on Netflix and how both pink and white can be sinister
done by some UA-cam channel - but done with respect to pink particularly
Oooo I didn't know I wanted this but I like it.
Can you talk about "The Mistress" and the "Big Beautiful Woman"? And also the "Bougie Black Woman" and also how in the 90s/00s we were assaulted with images and demands that real women be super-toned and super slim while cartoon women were illustrated with voluptuous curves, especially below the waist?
you missed mentioning the series Good girls, where three moms become involved with the local mafia of the suburbs they live in and the "main" of the three, Elizabeth, gets deeper and deeper into this second life and identity to cope doing criminal activities for her family but also because she deep down, enjoys it
Would love to see you guys analyze the show Good Girls from this lens. The wife doing the crimes while the husband is against it provides a very different dynamic.
Never understood why Anna Gunn got death threats for playing a character on a tv show. Skylar didn't make things easy for Walt and that caused tension. If you take away Skylar from the show, it would be a lot less interesting. Anna Gunn played her really well and the reason I liked Skylar as a character was because she was flawed. She's the type of woman I would never choose to be friends with, but she was the sounds of reason and she was mostly right.
Thank you for not saying "Skyler is the queen" like the other comments
@@sen7826 But why do you think she got death threats?
@@rejectionisprotection4448 Because the world is not devoid of idiots.
I think it's sad that Skylar is not someone we would naturally want to be friends with, I think it's a byproduct of the fact that the wife has to be the "not fun" one that rains on everyone's parades, because running a household is stressful and frequently involves putting a stop to risky or costly behavior.
I really like how the American version of "House of Cards" portrays Claire and Frank relationship. There too, you understand that while Frank's a menace, Claire's the real one to fear because she holds the reigns and is the most ruthless of the two.
I feel like we need to go e Betty more credit. Even though she gets cancer in the end, it didn't halt her completely in the past. She went to school again with the limited time she has left for someone who has been everyone's prop; she finally doing something she wants
"Walt, that's the credit card we don't use...."
And with that Skylar became unredeemable in the eyes of the viewers no matter what.
Yeah, and he put that in the pilot, straight after a cancer diagnosis. I thought Vince was a bit out of order slagging off his own fans for sexism, and not putting his hands up for blatantly positioning that character in such an unpleasant way in the first episode.
@@mankytoes Wow. Just made a response to your comment and it got deleted.
It said something like Skylar had also wanted Walter off in bed whilst bidding for items on eBay. I then said Vince Gilligan was disingenuous (as you also said) for doing that and then start crying sexism at BB more fanatical (not to mention misogynistic) followers.
I wonder if this will be deleted as well.
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 it seems like all the replies except mine got deleted. They only want the best.
Three of the greatest tv ever , missing the wire and a couple of other shows .
The og of this trope is lady Macbeth
finally someone with a good brain
Skylar was, is, and forever will be my favorite Breaking Bad character.
that's like saying your fav character from Harry Potter is Argus Filch
The Take is criminally under viewed and underrated. Always such great insight to tropes and genres of media we consume. Thanks for making such intriguing content. Hope one day it catches on and you can make the big bucks!
The editing in this video is great!
I’d like The Take to do a few episodes explicitly exploring narrative archetypes. This is a start but I’d like to see this channel talk about universality.
I think the wife in the Ozarks is far from the typical anti hero wife. She is literally the brains behind the operation AND way clever than her husband
Yeah, that's exactly what the video argues?
Yes, Wendy was a master manipulator till the very end.
Every wife is blonde 👱🏻♀️ with blue eyes i wonder if it’s on purpose
this channel has a video on the portrayal of blonde women in media, and I assume these characters are all "icy blondes". Betty Draper is definitely an icy blonde. I think Carmella is the only blonde character on the show, obviously dyed blonde as a choice. All the characters, including her, are supposed to be from an ethnic group where that's not a common natural hair color, nor blue a common eye color. I read it as coding her as an icy blonde. Skylar's hair color looks more red but I guess close enough to icy blonde?
Yup!
@@victoriaa9933 Carmela is actually blonde irl lol
These are the kind of complex female characters we need to see
‘The Kitchen’ was such a brilliant movie. The actresses were brilliant all around.
Betty is so underrated
Great video as always but this should’ve really included The Shield, which has 2 countering Anti-hero wives, with Corrine and Mara. It would’ve truly been perfect to include them here. I would love if you would do videos on The Shield, one of the most overlooked shows nowadays that deserves praise like The Wire and The Sopranos imo.
"Andy Warhol would change his perfume constantly..." You mean he'd rotate scents depending on how he feels that day? That's interesting. "...to capture that period in his life." So every few years? That's normal, isn't it?
I like that the BB producers didn't gave in on fan demand and allowed Skyler to live
Surprised Justified's Ava Crowder wasn't in this discussion. She fits the archetype pretty neatly, even when being pulled between the show's two leading men. Gorgeous blonde trophy, self-destructive and increasingly trapped, and unable to resist being pulled into the criminal life.
I’ve never been able to warm to Carmela. She was more concerned about being cheated on than how her lifestyle was funded.
Of course; she wouldn't survive on her own.
My biggest problem with Carmela is how she acts so holier than thou and acts like she's divorced from tony's crimes. and its like Lady your very responsible its called aiding and abetting. Her talking about how Tony is going to hell and she isn't always rubbed me the wrong way. I'm still on season one though maybe she gets at the very least more interesting.
These videos are so interesting. In Game of Thrones there were there were 2 anti heroes but they were women who ultimately had to deal with the seemingly lesser men in their lives
See you guys in a couple months when I finish _The Sopranos_ and _Mad Men_ and can watch this video without fearing spoilers. The world keep telling me to watch these.
Requirements for being an anti-hero wife:
1. Be blonde
2. See 1
Betty is literally a Barbie Doll!
my gosh these videos have always been amazing but they’re next level lately
Skylers so supportive and loving towards walter and hes so rude and dismissive
ah yes she was so supportive of him when she f*cked Ted
Make a video about negative traits men have in fiction that women get mass hate for having themselves.
Ben Affleck's character in gone girl also proves to be such type of character, as he returns to her, with large part of her horrible/sociopathic trait as an attractive feature.
Damn, that's such a good point about how the average viewer is much more like Carmela than Tony.
Is that really much better?
It would mean that we are complacent with the horrors of the world, and we rather live in selfish denial than do anything to change the situation for the better and we would rather take the easy way out.
It’s just another form of evil, not as bad as Tony’s but still evil
Anyone else noticed all those ladies are blonde?
Wonder if that also has simbolism (after all blonde hair constantly is used as symbol of purity and innocence)
You folks make great videos! Bravo!
I was kind of expecting you'd talk about Lady Macbeth, since you have been bringing up Shakeaspeare and the greeks to talk about certain tropes.
final fucking ly , an episode on my fav character type.
5:19 - What? People would be part of a religion to create a façade of moral superiority?!? Say it isn't so! /sarcasm
Seriously, I think that's actually a _feature_ of a number of religions, not a bug.
7:00 - Clearly, we would _not_ do the right thing. American history is story after story of Americans failing to do the right thing. And that's just counting the stories that are too well documented to hide!!! And, oh, hey, look at how religious Americans are compared to say people in European countries at present! As I said, the façade is a feature, not a bug.
I love, love this. I never noticed the connection between these ladies but it makes total sense. I'm also glad they're getting some love after all the hate when these shows first aired. Maybe some of us have been married to anti heros and realize it's not so great 😆
It sure wasn't.
Thanks for your hard work making all of these videos.
Hi, I love the content you guys put out. Could you please do a video on this topic?
Women getting impregnated by aliens in horror/sci-fi movies.
Women turning into bloated hives for alien reproduction.
A man getting impregnated by an otherworldly seductress.
Misogynist, sexist, rape culture or just pushing a fear of aliens?
Is it possible to make a good alien horror movie without resorting to aliens impregnating women?
...have you not watched the most famous alien horror movies like Alien, or The Thing?
@@sen7826 Um...Did you see Alien vs Predator: Requiem, and Slither?
Type up Movie Recapped impregnate on UA-cam. You will be surprised at what comes up.
@@StrikerVaskin dude youtube channels like that use clickbaity titles and descriptions like that all the time, not because hollywood is trying to equate aliens with impregnation of women, but because it's clickbaity
and the point of my reply was that in the quintessential alien horrors, men got impregnated, and one of those even had a woman as the only survivor. So get over your hollywood alien sexism lmao
@@sen7826 It is still an interesting topic to talk about. By the way, it's not just hollywood. You see this in Italian, French and Russian horror movies.
In the 1980s tv show V, a girl (she was in high school) being impregnated and giving birth to an alien baby was a story arc. I think the trope is part body horror and xenophobia, really. And of course in this case, teen girl having sex leads to punishment.
I like to think I wouldn't do it but a big part of me could see being Carmela. Just being taken care of and never ever having to worry about financial insecurity?? Who wouldn't be tempted yknow?? Especially when you yourself don't have to get your hands dirty.
I wish i could like this twice. this was a great analysis❤
I never saw Skyler as the villain and I did not even know that was a thing until after I watched the last episode. I just saw her trying to get him out because he got to sucked in. It fell on her until she rightfully was fed up and realized that he did not want out.
Can you talk about Mrs. America please? I love your videos!
Do a Take on Gemma Teller!
Ray Donovan's wife was a complex character I enjoyed
I don't care about the Skyler hate, I'm more concerned about the people who went out of their way to taunt the actress
I don't hate Skyler, but I don't care if other people do. The thing that I hate is when people can't seem to separate the character from the actress. I don't think it's as simple as misogyny, though. I mean, maybe that's part of it, but to just dismiss it as men who hate women doesn't do anything to figure out why people can't separate a character from the actor who plays the character.
Maybe I should watch The Ozarks
I really enjoy your takes! I don’t agree with premise that Tony or Walter are anti-heroes though. They both are sociopaths and not “heroic” in any way, (at least a character like Dexter kills other killers.).
A anti-hero can be deeply immoral. In this context, the term is more about perspective than values.
@@lydiafayre9806 I don’t disagree! I also know take was about wives. It does open flood gates (a bit) when we apply that term (anti-hero) to those characters that have no redeeming qualities (other than poorly taking care of family), which is not “heroic” in any way. People who have families are SUPPOSED to take care of them.
@@jamessmith7909 I think you're overlooking the significance of the word "anti", is the thing. It's like...in the beginning of the early christian church, anti-christ wasn't the specific single prophetic figure that it's been made into in modern media, for example--it was anyone who was considered opposed to the teaching's of Yeshua Ben Yosef. Now we're talking a complex tract of linguistic development, but the remaining link here is that "anti-blank" is very decidedly and very specifically drawing an oppositional contrast from "blank."
If you call a character "anti-hero" and they DO have actually heroic qualities, that's when you're misusing the term.
@@lydiafayre9806 Religion aside, you have to use context of current cultural definition. The character you’re describing is just a villain vs anti-hero ( i.e Captain America vs Deadpool vs Red Skull ). That middle area is where the anti-hero applies in today’s context, in my opinion. I take your meaning however as well.
Great video
Do a take on FX's The Shield and its ending.
Please do one entire video on Elizabeth Jennings
audiences usually sympathize with the gangster or drug lord or whatever but his wife is apparently seen as the devil even if she doesn’t do half the bad things he does 🙄
I know she’s a widow but Nancy from weeds has a lot of these traits
It can tell me what I want what I don't know what I want.. Fuuuuuuuuk.
That is so fucking dark.
Thats what I got for ever..ever expecting anything else
I won't lie, I'm extremely disappointed Karen from Goodfellas wasn't mentioned even once,
Especially with Jessie Reyez bringing it back in, "Do you love Her" recently.
You mean doctor Melfy
Amazing amazing amazing!!!!!!
I love your videos...so informative, so meaningful!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for making these. Y'all are doing God's work!!!!!
The Skyler hate is MESSED UP
Can y’all include more POC
carmela is annoying because she's can come up as hollow, betty is difficult for me to comment on because i understand her struggles (despite me not being close to the beauty of january jones), there's nothing harder than being an angry woman, a hungry woman in a world that expects you to be calm, and skyler is annoying because we're obviously not rooting for walter to stop doing crime
I think Shakespeare had a prototype-Skyler in Othello.
SPOILERS:
The antagonist, Iago, has a wife, Emilia. She’s just as smart as he is, maybe even smarter, since she knows how the world works and that femininity and sex can be used to advance careers, while Iago stews in his misogyny. She is compliant with his bad actions, obeying his orders and taking his abuse, but ultimately challenges him directly and is the one person to piece it all together and foil Iago’s plans. She loves Iago, but when her husband’s abuse is targeted at and affects her friends, she snaps and spills the beans. And that gets her killed.
Are they always white, blonde-haired women too? And why?
Skinny, white blonde women have been the standard for beauty for a very long time. Therefore, wealthy antihero wives want to look like that standard. And sociopathic antihero husbands most likely sought that out because “that’s what wives are supposed to look like.” It’s a quick and easy way to create an illusion of the ideal family that will not draw attention.
@@Mesozoical ahah funny/ interesting knowing the beloved Elon Musk allegedly asked his (ex)-wives to go blond.
Love Carmela and Kim Wexler!
I really liked this one.
Monica Long Dutton should be included in this list as far I’ve seen. I hope Taylor Sheridan changes that.
Question, which has been worse for humanity, religion or family? Tough choice..
what's the music at the very beginning of the video ?
omg u guys should totally look at the early era of barbie :o
I don't know ..I just roots for those parents who deal with bullies ...bullying a serious problem but it is so much normalised to such an extent that people defend it as a part of growing up ...I want you to make video on bullying ,and it was never properly addressed at the end like in realistic manner ..recently from UK , the shocking news broke out of sexual harrassment of teenage girls by their classmates .....in movies generally it is shown as a problem which could be dealt by our underdog protagonist through emulating the bully himself or acquiring supernatural power ...such message is problematic because it asserts that children finally have to deal it on their own , no parents, no teachers, no community, no institution could ever helped then or took the reforms
What I learned from the first four minutes: The antiheros wife is always blonde
Y’all definitely should do a video on just the Americans
Michael C. Hall is so hot. It was ‘You’ before ‘You’.
I was a fan of the channel until I realized that The Take it never takes a true position. He exposes the problem and then says the "positive" side of this problem, which consists of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and sexism.
It's like saying "oh this is absurd but look on the bright side".
Yer I noticed that too. The take is the ultimate fence sitter. They'll make some great points often times things you wouldn't have noticed otherwise. But then as you said they just play devil's advocate. And if they do lean into an opinion it's usually the most popular take. They just pretend to be originals and contrary. I still find the videos mostly interesting but they aren't as deep as they think they are.
@@AirQuotes Like in that video where they say "The Boomers are ok" and they are the most racist and supremacist make america great again generation. Boomers are not ok @TheTake
Tasha from Power should be in this
In India, there’s a show called ‘Aarya’ which brilliantly portrays the Anti-Héro Mom Gangster.
YES
All of these icy blondes!
The first episode of Breaking Bad, showing Skyler as a nag cued viewers into disliking her fir the test of the show. I also think she was more complex in the sense that for a while she was an accomplice to Walt, but this was out of self preservation
Carmella knew full well what she is was marrying into. Skyler made to the decision to stay in her marriage after she fund out
Where would Robin Wright’s character from house of cards for in this? It’s been a very long time since I’ve watched the show, but she seemed to be more in charge at least toward the end of the show?
Can you do an explanation video on ending of leftovers
You guys should really analyze Peaky Blinders