Onion...? 🤔💭 ,,She's got an a** like an onion: Makes me wanna cry." (ASAC Hank Schrader referring to the shapely curves of Carmen Molina, Breaking Bad, 2008)
Her and Gandolfini made Tony and Carmela feel like real humans that exist in the world. This show was so amazing because of amazing writers, but also amazing actors.
One crucial aspect of Carmela’s personality that deserves real criticism is how she uses her position as the boss’s wife to establish dominance over her friend group. The way she treats Charmaine like a servant after she hears Tony slept with. How she seems to only spend time with mob wives who are either beneath her, or who have lost everything. Her best friend is Ro, because Ro lost her husband and son, and by being around her she can feel better about her life. She’s friendly with Angie when Angie is broke and struggling, and likes to show off her wealth to her, but when Angie becomes an independent entrepreneur, Carmela starts hanging out with Ginny Sack whose husband just went to jail and who is slowly losing everything. She loves to lord her status over other women.
I love that Charmaine dropped the “I slept with Tony bomb” after Carmella treated her as a hired flunky for a charity event. She completely disarmed Carmella, making her feel like the pathetic Phonus Balonus she really was.
You sound like the jealous type. She cant help that her husband is the boss. She never held it over her friend's head. And the restaurant lady was never a real friend or in the inner friend group.
This is the moment where a total outsider tells her the objective truth of her situation. Her family, the "family," her friends (other mob wives) and her priests always dance around the truth. He sweeps all that aside, tells her that it's all a lie and tells her what she really has to do to change her situation. She chooses to continue to live in the lie. That's the moment where she goes from conflicted and conditioned to willfully and knowingly complicit. A bystander to an accomplice.
@@capysarah To be fair, Carmela has no job prospect and it'd be pretty much impossible to support a family on her own. Her kids would probably run back to their father realizing that, not to mention Tony has the resources to track her down. Carmela's sin was getting involved with Tony to begin with, but at this point she's fucked either way, the priest only cared about saving her soul.
I have seen so many fans try to argue that Carmela is so much worse than Tony because “at least Tony is honest”. Such BS. Tony was a cold blooded killer, she wasn’t a good person, but no way was he better
Cold blooded killer doesn't equal being evil or horrible, To y has also extrorted and murdered those far worse than him, making his actions somewhat light and heroic.
Yeah. She’s just as bad as Tony. Yeah she never actually did the dirt that Tony did. However she benefited from it and had no problem benefiting from it. Think about that entire series. She had no problem surrounding her children with murders and thieves. In fact the only things that upset her the most is the fact that her sociopath of a husband was unfaithful to her. Imagine that a man who lies for a living can’t stay faithful. Also she also was never satisfied with the amount of money that Tony made. Never mind the fact she never had to work. Her kids never went hungry and they lived in a 6,000 square foot house! But “Tony, I’m worried about the security of our future!” Let’s not talk about the lives Tony ruined just so she can drive a Mercedes to the grocery store. She absolutely was just as bad as Tony.
I am so blown away by the women of the Sopranos. Carmella was being pulled in different directions by such powerful societal forces: religion, organized crime, perceptions of women and mothers in America etc. Meadow, both immature and wise beyond her years, turning into a mini Tony year after year. Even Janice, who I couldn't stand first watch, was performed so well as to elicit that response from the audience. Falco, Sigler, and Turturro did such outstanding jobs with the characters!
Carmella knew who Tony was when she dated him even. Sometimes I believe she believes she is better off in ignorance is bliss mode so she doesn’t have to think about his deeds. In that episode Whitecaps, I think the part that irked her the most was the ‘one legged Russian’. The Jewish psychiatrist gave her the best advice. The Sopranos remains my favorite Drama off all time.
Yeah , he had higher morals than the priest. The psychiatrist wouldn’t touch mob money , but the priest would. 😂 The priest was always at Tony’s house , eating his food , and accepting gifts.
Carmela gaslighting Adriana’s mom after her death and trying to convince her that she just left without notice and then going on to say that she was drunk while easily being swayed by Tony building her a new lake house cemented her as a villain.
If the show had more time it would have been interesting to see what happens if Carmella is confronted with undeniable proof that Tony ordered Ade killed. I think she in the back of her mind she knows it’s very suspicious that Adriana just up and left though her worst fear might be Christopher accidentally killed her in a drunk rage and Tony helped cover it up. But if she learned Tony ordered a hit….either that’s the final straw that makes Carmela run, give up the mob wife life and all the money, change her name and go be a Denny’s waitress in Wisconsin…or accept it and just know she’s just as guilty and going to hell with Tony
Sopranos may have been about the men but the writers did a great job developing the women too. Even though Carmella gets a lot of hate, I find her to be a very well-written character and a realistic take on what the wife of a mob boss would be like.
@@mankytoes I think it’s about both the blood family and the mafia family. Especially considering that the show gave a lot of attention to Christopher.
@@suburbantimewaster9620 It's definitely about both, but the blood family is the central one. David Crane actually said he really wanted to make a show just about a family, but knew that wouldn't get made. Also, the crime family isn't called The Sopranos, it's the DiMeo family I believe.
Honestly Carmela doesn't get that much hate, atleast from my pov, I think the writers did a great job at showing things from her pov. She's definitely not Skylar.
Carmela is a great character. She is such a realistic wealthy woman. Loves her family in a twisted way, is badass, and is even physically abusive to Tony. To me she is more likeable than Paulie in later seasons, and no one hates Paulie.
Carmela was full of sh** in so many ways, but she could also shut down Tony’s B.S. better than anyone, better than Silvio and even Dr Melfi. Like when Tony almost beat her for just FANTASIZING about Furio and she called him out over his goomars and his hundreds of one night stands all their marriage.
I've been waiting on this video from "The Take" since before it was called "The Take." She's one of my favorite characters in fiction and y'all did her justice. Great job!
I remember Tony yelling at Carmella when she wanted a divorce. He told her, "You judge what I do, while you enjoy using the money and the lifestyle..." or something like that
I get tired of people using “anti-hero” to describe the Sopranos characters. Tony is not an “anti-hero”, he’s just a straight up villain who happens to be the protagonist. Carmela is not an anti-hero wife. She’s the wife of a straight-up villain who is happy to be accessory to his horrific behavior as long as she gets the glamorous lifestyle from him.
I love that you guys are doing more with the Sopranos. It's seriously the greatest show of all time next to Breaking Bad and The Wire. You can do so much with this show and its themes and characters.
Carmela is an iconic character... I LOVED HER so much when I watched the show... it helps that Edie Falco is the GOAT:) that was a complex marriage but also so real
I know it may be tricky considering the lack of info on her, but I would love a deep dive into Tony and Janice's sister that moved away and only visits during holidays. One of the most relatable characters and we know almost nothing about her.
could you please cover meadow and aj? it would be cool to see an analysis on the generational elements at play within the sopranos and how meadow and aj both reckon with tony's life
Agreed! They both can be such easily detestable characters, but the tragedy of their lives being affected by what they can't control (Tony Soprano being their father) is really heartbreaking.
Carmela tried so hard to be a faithful wife (and therefore better than the mistresses Tony kept on the side). She tried so hard to be a good mother (and therefore better than Livia, whose presence overshadowed the Soprano household, even after her death). She tried so hard to remain on the right side of morality and the law (hence her constant appeals to priests, psychiatrists, and even the way she carefully dealt with the investments so that the banker would not have to report it). In the end, though, Carmela could never get around the fact that she was complicit in her husband's activities and crimes. She hated what he did, yet she depended on it and was, on some level, proud of his "accomplishments," of his bringing home the bacon and rising in the ranks. She just never wanted to acknowledge the details.
Carmela is the perfect example of of how how at heat we all want to be moral decent ethical human beings but we all don’t want to A: put in the work that’s involved or B: make the sacrifices that are needed to attain that
No diff than any politician's wife. Or CEOs wife. He husband just kept it honest about his deeds of criminality. She's just a tv version of most influential men's wives.
Here’s why Carmella was just as evil as Tony: She knew the person she was marrying. She knew the life she was marrying into. She knew she’d be surrounding her children with liars, thieves and murderers. However the only things she had a problem with, was her sociopathic husband’s infidelity and that her sociopathic husband didn’t make enough money. She lived in a 6,000 sqft home. Never had to work. Children never went without. But the money Tony made was never enough. Never mind all the lives he destroyed to build her comfortable life.
Missed some attention towards her infatuation with Furrio. She longs for someone who understands the mafia stuff, but isn't afraid of showing emotion and taste not just for buying her silence and feeding her denial like Tony
I would love for you guys to start doing analyses for Snowfall. It’s one of the most underrated shows of the decade and a master class of character development.
@@samanthab1923I don't think it had a horrible ending. Just because the characters had a bad ending doesn't make the shows ending bad. It was tragic however it was his own doing
@@samanthab1923 nothing wrong with that ending. How exactly did you expect it to end? Most inner city drug dealers don’t get a happy ending. To be honest I think it was a great ending. Franklin has the choice to pick himself off the streets. Get into rehab. Possibly piece his life back together. In all essence he gets away with all the dirt he did on that show.
First, I applaud the screenwriters for delivering the most traumatizing yet engaging episodes that made The Sopranos the most beloved HBO series in its eight-year run. Their synopsis treatments molded the characters' psyches like actual organized crime mobsters. Actress Edie Falco was brilliant as the scorned and spoiled hypocrite Carmella, who turned a blind eye to Tony's murderous transgressions and infidelities to continuously feed her extravagant wants and live the privileged life of a mob boss wife in NJ. Her conniving, narcissistic exploits were just as menacing to get what she wanted as if it was her right. Carmella wouldn't dream of walking out on Tony because doing so would mean her glitzy lifestyle would terminate with profound future insecurities of not processing money and other wealth gains. She was a taker and a deliberate beguiler who made herself the wounded crybaby due to Tony's escapades with women and his formidable operation as a crime boss. I couldn't think of an actress with incredible acting competence far better than Edie Falco.
I found Carmela quite likeable. Facades are an important aspect of her character, and it applies to both her as a person and the audiences view of her. She gives Tony a lot of attitude but it conceals the fact that he basically has total control over her life, while her more vulnerable side distracts from the fact that she's genuinely a really good mob wife. Though she doesn't get involved with the crime, the organisation would be considerably less effective without her leadership in the social life of the mob.
@@khosatralkel9491 Well I mean she did in season 5. lol She threw him out of the house and was ready to go all out for a divorce settlement. Yeah Tony turned the divorce lawyers in Jersey against her but that didn't stop her. It's only when they reconciled and Tony agreed to her terms did they resume their marriage, it wasn't against her will. Carmela was with Tony because she wanted to be. And she stayed with him because she benefited alot from being the wife of the man who controls all crime in Jersey. This is true for all the mob wives in the show.
@@STARK0181 Carmela did always choose to stay. But Carmela's attempts to leave are always half measures that Tony fights against pretty hard. Its doubtful if Tony would ever let her fully start a new life without him.
Carmel doesn’t set out to use any power over that weasel wegler in fact the writers show you the exact opposite. She visits the Priest twice explicitly to say she is strongly attracted to him and wants to sleep with him. The priest scenes are there to show you her motivation. She is nervous in the car and she doesn’t lead the interaction, the scene is there to show you her motivation. Her desire to have sex with wegler has nothing to do with AJ and the point of that arc is to show you that Carmela is in fact in a corner just as she explains in tears in the bed. She asks him for the favour of helping AJ as any parent dating a teacher would but a favour for a mob wife is never just a favour and that’s the point. She wanted to have sex with wegler AND she wanted to help AJ but the two things were separate. The wegler arc leads into Carmela’s choice to compromise and let Tony back in. The one sexual encounter she has outside of Tony is affected by Tony and that’s how it will always be for her. Wegler is a dick to her that’s the point of that storyline - not to paint her in a bad light but to show you shes trapped. You are supposed to walk away from that scene thinking wegler is a tool, not agreeing with his assessment of her. If you agree with him you missed the point of the arc that leads Carmela back to Tony.
Carm was my favourite character of the show! She's interesting, sassy, strong and complex... also, Edie Falco is an amazing actress... just perfect from episode 1 to the end!
Seriously the hate on carmella is much more. She was trying best to bring her kids out of shit hole. Her daughter got to be in good college and when tony was sending his son to military school she stopped that and made him to go in movies. She tried her best as mother compared to other gangsta wives.
I really liked her survival way of thinking. Out of all the wives, I think she was the smartest and good at thinking on her feet. She was right to put some money aside in case Tony got in trouble. The mob never took care of a dead mobster’s family. At least, not for that long.
@@chanmarr8118I think she realized the latter part when Tony was in the hospital after Vito and Paulie dropped off cash. They smiled to her face, then looked pissed off in the elevator, and she saw that. She’ll be better off than Ro, Angie, Ginny and Marie.
@@suburbantimewaster9620yeah it tends to be laced with misogyny. Not that no one can't dislike her for legitimate reasons but any hate a female character will get will have some misogyny in it I don't think no one can deny that
The reason we hate the anti-heroes wife is because they know exactly what their husband is doing. At some point in the show, Skyler tries to hide a truck pallet full of hundred dollar bills. Yet it’s never good enough for her. I hated Carmela because she always acted spiritually conflicted while repeatedly going back to Tony.
I LOVE Carmela. Such an interesting female character. So well portrayed by Edie Falco. For a while I felt bad for her even though she was clearly in denial and complicit. But then you have to accept that she chose this life and that was morally wrong and there is no way around that.
Gandolfini was a great actor and perfect Jersey Mob BOSS, but I feel Falco was probably the best actor/actress on the show. Carm was the character that would always find the perfect way to state what we as the audience all think about that whole "thing of theirs".
My mom said Carmela was her favorite and I can see why Also speaking of people hating the wives more then the POS husbands it also brings to mind Corinne Mackey of the Sopranos. The Shield analysis vids I would be interested to see
Skylar gets the most hate of all because she was never a good wife to Walt at any point during the show. It was hinted that she encouraged him to sell his stake in Gray Matter and fought him every step of the way. Carmella could be a hypocrite and callous toward Tony at times, but she at least loved him and always contributed to the relationship.
Walt's mistskes are on him. Not anybodys else, that why fans hate her. She never wanted any of it. To point that people resort to complain about her half hearted handjob to justify their disslike towards her.
I dislike how people see the Carmela character as materialistic or not wanting to work for things. He controlled their lives from the beginning he didn’t want her to work the same as Chris said he didn’t want Adriana to work after they got married and the same as all of the men in the family. It’s a cultural and traditional thing. She provided legitimacy to his life and a stability for their children that’s all she had to do and she did it. He gave her things to buy her complicity and she chose to perceive them as romance. That doesn’t make her a bad person. If she lorded her status over anyone..So what? She was a mob boss wife if you can’t use your power to get things then, when can you?. He ruined her chances of life after a divorce and we all know he would never have let her live a life without him he was far too selfish for that. so she compromised and asked for the spec house and it was the smartest choice she could have made at the time. In the end she was the only character to look inward and to personally and openly accept blame. Also she’s hot.
Stop with the glazing. Carmela is also a TERRIBLE person. And yes... She is materialistic. Notice how whenever Tony does something dispecable he uses that blood money to buy something for Carmela. To her a new car or piece of jewelry makes up for the fact that her husband does terrible things. She even low-key admits this in therapy. She chose to marry Tony, know who he was and what his lifestyle entailed. She could leave at any point but choses to stay. She could turn Tony into the feds but choses to enable him. She also uses Tony's criminal infamy to her advantage when it suits her by threatening and coercing people to get what she wants i.e. letter of recommendation for Meadow. She's literally the opposite of Charmaine Bucco which makes her not to far from Tony.
Carmela, from loving mother and wife to money hungry gold digger. I liked Carmela early on the show but as the season's progressed she got insecure about herself and became all about money. Money this money that and spending lots of money and on top of that wanted more for her future. Her excuse was what if something happens to you tony, what I'm I left with. But she was really reeling on for herself and that's why she was involved with that other house as another way to spend and make Xtra money for her not tony and het. She was selfless and conyving.
Exactly what did she put up with? I never saw her scrambling to get off work to get to the school to pick up her kids. Then race home to a 2 bedroom apartment and get dinner made. Review the kid’s homework. Get them to bed at a reasonable time. Wake up early the next morning and do the same shit all over again. No she got sit up in a castle, never really had to lift a finger. At no point was she in any real danger. Tony took all the risks. She just benefited from the her sociopath of a husband took.
I dunno about that Hillary reference, it was Tony that caused the corpses. Either way, I kinda wished she would have given Victor Musto the Stinkface treatment. He was a good-looking dude, and this is me saying that shit.
As dependent as she was on Tony for her lavish lifestyle. Really makes me wonder what happened to her after Tony's death. You know Paulie didn't pay her shit when he took over hehehe
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Onion...? 🤔💭
,,She's got an a** like an onion: Makes me wanna cry."
(ASAC Hank Schrader referring to the shapely curves of Carmen Molina, Breaking Bad, 2008)
No one could’ve done Carmela better than Edie Falco, absolutely fantastic work
I also liked her performance in Oz too. And I once I can watch Nurse Jackie I will
Her and Gandolfini made Tony and Carmela feel like real humans that exist in the world. This show was so amazing because of amazing writers, but also amazing actors.
I remember watching Whitecaps and forgetting she was an actor the whole time
My husband loved her in Nurse Jackie too. She is just a gifted and talented actress.
Any scene with her and James together with them was fantastic, it was like Lebron and D-Wade on a fastbreak.
One crucial aspect of Carmela’s personality that deserves real criticism is how she uses her position as the boss’s wife to establish dominance over her friend group. The way she treats Charmaine like a servant after she hears Tony slept with. How she seems to only spend time with mob wives who are either beneath her, or who have lost everything. Her best friend is Ro, because Ro lost her husband and son, and by being around her she can feel better about her life. She’s friendly with Angie when Angie is broke and struggling, and likes to show off her wealth to her, but when Angie becomes an independent entrepreneur, Carmela starts hanging out with Ginny Sack whose husband just went to jail and who is slowly losing everything. She loves to lord her status over other women.
Couldn’t have said it better 😊
Well said
I love that Charmaine dropped the “I slept with Tony bomb” after Carmella treated her as a hired flunky for a charity event. She completely disarmed Carmella, making her feel like the pathetic Phonus Balonus she really was.
Just a correction, she hears Tony slept with Charmaine AFTER treating her like a servant
You sound like the jealous type. She cant help that her husband is the boss. She never held it over her friend's head. And the restaurant lady was never a real friend or in the inner friend group.
One of my favorite scenes is when Carmela goes to the Jewish therapist and he tells her like it is.
"Take your children, what's left of them and go"
This is the moment where a total outsider tells her the objective truth of her situation. Her family, the "family," her friends (other mob wives) and her priests always dance around the truth. He sweeps all that aside, tells her that it's all a lie and tells her what she really has to do to change her situation. She chooses to continue to live in the lie. That's the moment where she goes from conflicted and conditioned to willfully and knowingly complicit. A bystander to an accomplice.
@@capysarah To be fair, Carmela has no job prospect and it'd be pretty much impossible to support a family on her own. Her kids would probably run back to their father realizing that, not to mention Tony has the resources to track her down. Carmela's sin was getting involved with Tony to begin with, but at this point she's fucked either way, the priest only cared about saving her soul.
I think the priest only cared about her ziti.
Those weh some tough jews 👀
I have seen so many fans try to argue that Carmela is so much worse than Tony because “at least Tony is honest”. Such BS. Tony was a cold blooded killer, she wasn’t a good person, but no way was he better
Cold blooded killer doesn't equal being evil or horrible, To y has also extrorted and murdered those far worse than him, making his actions somewhat light and heroic.
He also extorted and murdered innocents. He was evil @@stairwaytoheaven8
Yeah like being honest isn't a redeeming quality
Yeah. She’s just as bad as Tony. Yeah she never actually did the dirt that Tony did. However she benefited from it and had no problem benefiting from it. Think about that entire series. She had no problem surrounding her children with murders and thieves. In fact the only things that upset her the most is the fact that her sociopath of a husband was unfaithful to her. Imagine that a man who lies for a living can’t stay faithful. Also she also was never satisfied with the amount of money that Tony made. Never mind the fact she never had to work. Her kids never went hungry and they lived in a 6,000 square foot house! But “Tony, I’m worried about the security of our future!” Let’s not talk about the lives Tony ruined just so she can drive a Mercedes to the grocery store. She absolutely was just as bad as Tony.
@@stairwaytoheaven8what?
The most truthful person in that series was that therapist Carmella went to. He pretty much summed up the thesis of the series.
I am so blown away by the women of the Sopranos. Carmella was being pulled in different directions by such powerful societal forces: religion, organized crime, perceptions of women and mothers in America etc. Meadow, both immature and wise beyond her years, turning into a mini Tony year after year. Even Janice, who I couldn't stand first watch, was performed so well as to elicit that response from the audience. Falco, Sigler, and Turturro did such outstanding jobs with the characters!
Secondary characters too, like Svetlana (Irina's cousin), Charmaine, even Ro. So pitch perfect every one. And towering above them all - Livia.
@@teynaranjas788 Rosalie was a SOLDIER. Loved her, and you are so correct!
Adriana La Cerva, Angie Bonpensiero, Gloria Trillo to mention some more. The Sopranos had many phenomenal female characters
@@LOCOnarwhal I can't believe I didn't mention Ade!
Carmella knew who Tony was when she dated him even. Sometimes I believe she believes she is better off in ignorance is bliss mode so she doesn’t have to think about his deeds. In that episode Whitecaps, I think the part that irked her the most was the ‘one legged Russian’. The Jewish psychiatrist gave her the best advice. The Sopranos remains my favorite Drama off all time.
Yep💯💯
I'd love you guys to cover Livia Soprano, one of truly worst TV mothers.
Raising and creating one of the best human beings ever put on TV, Tony Soprano.
Boo hoo, poor you, having to put up with such a terrible TV mother (in my Livia voice)
@@fangal12 His father was a saint!
@@fangal12 I gave my life to my children on a silver platter!
heard that one too many times to count....@@talkinghoorse6936
That Psychiatrist was the only honest person on that show. 😂
foolish tho
Yeah , he had higher morals than the priest. The psychiatrist wouldn’t touch mob money , but the priest would. 😂 The priest was always at Tony’s house , eating his food , and accepting gifts.
Carmela gaslighting Adriana’s mom after her death and trying to convince her that she just left without notice and then going on to say that she was drunk while easily being swayed by Tony building her a new lake house cemented her as a villain.
VERY astute observation.
If the show had more time it would have been interesting to see what happens if Carmella is confronted with undeniable proof that Tony ordered Ade killed. I think she in the back of her mind she knows it’s very suspicious that Adriana just up and left though her worst fear might be Christopher accidentally killed her in a drunk rage and Tony helped cover it up. But if she learned Tony ordered a hit….either that’s the final straw that makes Carmela run, give up the mob wife life and all the money, change her name and go be a Denny’s waitress in Wisconsin…or accept it and just know she’s just as guilty and going to hell with Tony
She had to. She was the bosses wife and had to say the party line
Amen
Sopranos may have been about the men but the writers did a great job developing the women too. Even though Carmella gets a lot of hate, I find her to be a very well-written character and a realistic take on what the wife of a mob boss would be like.
I wouldn't say Sopranos is about the men, the base for the show is Tony's blood family, not his mafia family.
@@mankytoes I think it’s about both the blood family and the mafia family. Especially considering that the show gave a lot of attention to Christopher.
@@suburbantimewaster9620 It's definitely about both, but the blood family is the central one. David Crane actually said he really wanted to make a show just about a family, but knew that wouldn't get made. Also, the crime family isn't called The Sopranos, it's the DiMeo family I believe.
Honestly Carmela doesn't get that much hate, atleast from my pov, I think the writers did a great job at showing things from her pov. She's definitely not Skylar.
Carmela is a great character. She is such a realistic wealthy woman. Loves her family in a twisted way, is badass, and is even physically abusive to Tony. To me she is more likeable than Paulie in later seasons, and no one hates Paulie.
Carmela was full of sh** in so many ways, but she could also shut down Tony’s B.S. better than anyone, better than Silvio and even Dr Melfi. Like when Tony almost beat her for just FANTASIZING about Furio and she called him out over his goomars and his hundreds of one night stands all their marriage.
Yeah, Carmela knew how to handle Tony and wasn’t afraid to stand up to him.
Whitecaps is the greatest episode.
Please do a take on Christopher Moltasanti next. He’s a great character study.
His arc.
@@andycummings-music - What arc? You know who had an arc? Noah.
@@arrigalimedia that's an ark, my friend 😂
@@alim.9801 - You think Paulie knew the difference? Wake up.
Yes and one about Adriana and of course mama Lyvia❤
Carmela’s pronunciation of “whores” was hilarious. She added an extra syllable 😂
Probably because it's the Northeast and probably grew up speaking a local dialect
How about the Shah of Iran? "you look like a Puerto Rican whoa"
@@ilikethiskindatube he loved that kids like a nephew-in-law
Ralphie:
"1, she hit me, 2, she was a huwa"
I prefer hooer
I've been waiting on this video from "The Take" since before it was called "The Take." She's one of my favorite characters in fiction and y'all did her justice. Great job!
Carmela deserves 10 videos dissecting and analysing her character.
Only more kudos to Edie Falco for bringing so much nuance into Carmela!
I remember Tony yelling at Carmella when she wanted a divorce. He told her, "You judge what I do, while you enjoy using the money and the lifestyle..." or something like that
I get tired of people using “anti-hero” to describe the Sopranos characters.
Tony is not an “anti-hero”, he’s just a straight up villain who happens to be the protagonist.
Carmela is not an anti-hero wife. She’s the wife of a straight-up villain who is happy to be accessory to his horrific behavior as long as she gets the glamorous lifestyle from him.
People confuse anti hero with protagonist that are villains. I think it relates to the protagonist/antagonist dynamic more than hero/villain.
Bravo.
She gave in to materialism.
I love that you guys are doing more with the Sopranos. It's seriously the greatest show of all time next to Breaking Bad and The Wire. You can do so much with this show and its themes and characters.
Breaking bad wouldn't have happened without the sopranos
Carmela is an iconic character... I LOVED HER so much when I watched the show... it helps that Edie Falco is the GOAT:) that was a complex marriage but also so real
Never thought I'd have an association with Carmela Soprano and Shrek.
I think Carmela is one of the best written female character in my opinion, she is not perfect but she is real
Very happy to see this when i wake up. Carmela and Adriana are my favorite Sopranos characters.
I know it may be tricky considering the lack of info on her, but I would love a deep dive into Tony and Janice's sister that moved away and only visits during holidays. One of the most relatable characters and we know almost nothing about her.
When Tony is arguing with Carmella about the Divorce at Vesuvio the look when Carmella is staring straight ahead is the Vintage Carmella look!!!!!!
could you please cover meadow and aj? it would be cool to see an analysis on the generational elements at play within the sopranos and how meadow and aj both reckon with tony's life
Agreed! They both can be such easily detestable characters, but the tragedy of their lives being affected by what they can't control (Tony Soprano being their father) is really heartbreaking.
Carmella believes what she wants to believe based on how it suits her best....
There is ao much about Carmela's faith and even her relationship with her parents
Carmela tried so hard to be a faithful wife (and therefore better than the mistresses Tony kept on the side). She tried so hard to be a good mother (and therefore better than Livia, whose presence overshadowed the Soprano household, even after her death). She tried so hard to remain on the right side of morality and the law (hence her constant appeals to priests, psychiatrists, and even the way she carefully dealt with the investments so that the banker would not have to report it). In the end, though, Carmela could never get around the fact that she was complicit in her husband's activities and crimes. She hated what he did, yet she depended on it and was, on some level, proud of his "accomplishments," of his bringing home the bacon and rising in the ranks. She just never wanted to acknowledge the details.
Carmela is the perfect example of of how how at heat we all want to be moral decent ethical human beings but we all don’t want to A: put in the work that’s involved or B: make the sacrifices that are needed to attain that
More Sopranos please! Excellent video ☺️🎬
No diff than any politician's wife. Or CEOs wife. He husband just kept it honest about his deeds of criminality. She's just a tv version of most influential men's wives.
For sure dude.
Are you serious???
You think the average politician or CEO is degenerate criminal conspiracy?????
No, there's a huge difference. Lmao
Best tv show of all time.
Excellent performance by great cast character
RIP James Gandolfini
Here’s why Carmella was just as evil as Tony: She knew the person she was marrying. She knew the life she was marrying into. She knew she’d be surrounding her children with liars, thieves and murderers. However the only things she had a problem with, was her sociopathic husband’s infidelity and that her sociopathic husband didn’t make enough money. She lived in a 6,000 sqft home. Never had to work. Children never went without. But the money Tony made was never enough. Never mind all the lives he destroyed to build her comfortable life.
Well said and totally true about this character.
All Carmela wanted was a Hyundai and a simple gold heart on a chain
Carmela!!! ❤ I loved how nuanced she was, Edie Falco brought so much to the role ❤
I think The Take hacked into my phone because I was just watching Sopranos and y’all upload this an hour ago. I’m on to you! 😂
Carmela was a victim of the formula, IMO, because if she ever properly wised up and left Tony she wouldn't have been on the show anymore.
The background music is so loud that It's distracting from the content. The points you're making deserve to be heard.
Missed some attention towards her infatuation with Furrio. She longs for someone who understands the mafia stuff, but isn't afraid of showing emotion and taste not just for buying her silence and feeding her denial like Tony
I would love for you guys to start doing analyses for Snowfall. It’s one of the most underrated shows of the decade and a master class of character development.
I loved that show. What a horrible ending
@@samanthab1923why u hated the ending
@@zero1188 Was so sad to see how Saint turned out 🥲 even poor Teddy. But as far as the mom & aunt, got what they deserved
@@samanthab1923I don't think it had a horrible ending. Just because the characters had a bad ending doesn't make the shows ending bad. It was tragic however it was his own doing
@@samanthab1923 nothing wrong with that ending. How exactly did you expect it to end? Most inner city drug dealers don’t get a happy ending. To be honest I think it was a great ending. Franklin has the choice to pick himself off the streets. Get into rehab. Possibly piece his life back together. In all essence he gets away with all the dirt he did on that show.
Carmela chose to live a life of willful ignorance.
That remark she made: "A *LAWYER..* (laughs in her face)" was such an ice-cold threat.
First, I applaud the screenwriters for delivering the most traumatizing yet engaging episodes that made The Sopranos the most beloved HBO series in its eight-year run. Their synopsis treatments molded the characters' psyches like actual organized crime mobsters. Actress Edie Falco was brilliant as the scorned and spoiled hypocrite Carmella, who turned a blind eye to Tony's murderous transgressions and infidelities to continuously feed her extravagant wants and live the privileged life of a mob boss wife in NJ. Her conniving, narcissistic exploits were just as menacing to get what she wanted as if it was her right. Carmella wouldn't dream of walking out on Tony because doing so would mean her glitzy lifestyle would terminate with profound future insecurities of not processing money and other wealth gains. She was a taker and a deliberate beguiler who made herself the wounded crybaby due to Tony's escapades with women and his formidable operation as a crime boss. I couldn't think of an actress with incredible acting competence far better than Edie Falco.
Carmela's talk about the Clintons is amusing given that Edie Falco would go on to play Hillary years later
Does anyone know what song is playing from 5:54 -7:34?
I found Carmela quite likeable. Facades are an important aspect of her character, and it applies to both her as a person and the audiences view of her. She gives Tony a lot of attitude but it conceals the fact that he basically has total control over her life, while her more vulnerable side distracts from the fact that she's genuinely a really good mob wife. Though she doesn't get involved with the crime, the organisation would be considerably less effective without her leadership in the social life of the mob.
Lol what??
She chose her life with Tony and her near divorce proves that she can leave whenever she wants.
@@STARK0181 What would Tony have done if Carmela left him and got with another man?
@@khosatralkel9491 Well I mean she did in season 5. lol
She threw him out of the house and was ready to go all out for a divorce settlement. Yeah Tony turned the divorce lawyers in Jersey against her but that didn't stop her. It's only when they reconciled and Tony agreed to her terms did they resume their marriage, it wasn't against her will.
Carmela was with Tony because she wanted to be. And she stayed with him because she benefited alot from being the wife of the man who controls all crime in Jersey. This is true for all the mob wives in the show.
@@STARK0181 Carmela did always choose to stay. But Carmela's attempts to leave are always half measures that Tony fights against pretty hard. Its doubtful if Tony would ever let her fully start a new life without him.
The best actor in the whole show. She shows so much of her inner thoughts with such subtlety, you simply cant believe she's not a real person
Carmel doesn’t set out to use any power over that weasel wegler in fact the writers show you the exact opposite. She visits the Priest twice explicitly to say she is strongly attracted to him and wants to sleep with him. The priest scenes are there to show you her motivation. She is nervous in the car and she doesn’t lead the interaction, the scene is there to show you her motivation. Her desire to have sex with wegler has nothing to do with AJ and the point of that arc is to show you that Carmela is in fact in a corner just as she explains in tears in the bed. She asks him for the favour of helping AJ as any parent dating a teacher would but a favour for a mob wife is never just a favour and that’s the point. She wanted to have sex with wegler AND she wanted to help AJ but the two things were separate.
The wegler arc leads into Carmela’s choice to compromise and let Tony back in. The one sexual encounter she has outside of Tony is affected by Tony and that’s how it will always be for her. Wegler is a dick to her that’s the point of that storyline - not to paint her in a bad light but to show you shes trapped. You are supposed to walk away from that scene thinking wegler is a tool, not agreeing with his assessment of her. If you agree with him you missed the point of the arc that leads Carmela back to Tony.
excellent take. Thanks
Loving The Sopranos videos!
Yes! Your Sopranos video are my favorite
Carm was my favourite character of the show! She's interesting, sassy, strong and complex... also, Edie Falco is an amazing actress... just perfect from episode 1 to the end!
What threat?
She made her a ricotta pie!
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Seriously the hate on carmella is much more. She was trying best to bring her kids out of shit hole. Her daughter got to be in good college and when tony was sending his son to military school she stopped that and made him to go in movies. She tried her best as mother compared to other gangsta wives.
I really liked her survival way of thinking. Out of all the wives, I think she was the smartest and good at thinking on her feet. She was right to put some money aside in case Tony got in trouble. The mob never took care of a dead mobster’s family. At least, not for that long.
@@chanmarr8118I think she realized the latter part when Tony was in the hospital after Vito and Paulie dropped off cash. They smiled to her face, then looked pissed off in the elevator, and she saw that. She’ll be better off than Ro, Angie, Ginny and Marie.
Yeah, all the hate toward Carmela gets out of control.
@@suburbantimewaster9620yeah it tends to be laced with misogyny. Not that no one can't dislike her for legitimate reasons but any hate a female character will get will have some misogyny in it I don't think no one can deny that
@@devonmunn5728 Especially when the same people who hate Carmella are putting Tony on a pedestal.
carmela is the GOAT
She the same as tony just hides it better
covert narcissist
The reason we hate the anti-heroes wife is because they know exactly what their husband is doing. At some point in the show, Skyler tries to hide a truck pallet full of hundred dollar bills. Yet it’s never good enough for her. I hated Carmela because she always acted spiritually conflicted while repeatedly going back to Tony.
Title shouldve been Carmela is a Multi Layered Ziti
Great vid, have you guys watch Six Feet Under? What do you think of Brenda as a character?
I LOVE Carmela. Such an interesting female character. So well portrayed by Edie Falco. For a while I felt bad for her even though she was clearly in denial and complicit. But then you have to accept that she chose this life and that was morally wrong and there is no way around that.
Amazing video
Carmela wassuch an incredibly interesting and nuanced character. Edie Falco was perfection.
Killery isn't a role model for anyone
She had to come to terms that she couldn't have her cake and eat it too. I grew up in a dysfunctional family, soni can relate to this. It's sad.
Onions has layers carmela has layers you get it
Gandolfini was a great actor and perfect Jersey Mob BOSS, but I feel Falco was probably the best actor/actress on the show. Carm was the character that would always find the perfect way to state what we as the audience all think about that whole "thing of theirs".
That show was so incredibly casted.
Calling somebody an onion is pretty hilarious imo😂😂
My mom said Carmela was her favorite and I can see why
Also speaking of people hating the wives more then the POS husbands it also brings to mind Corinne Mackey of the Sopranos. The Shield analysis vids I would be interested to see
She has so much more to her character compared to skyler and betty
One of the greatest Characters in tv history. I can’t say that about the wives on those other shows.
Shes basically a part of it through and through than being a innocent bystander or captive
Love how she craps on Hilary Clinton, and is kinda like a Hilary figure herself, then Edie Falco actually went on to portray Hilary 😅
Its funny, when this show aired, i never really thought she was attractive. Now as a 43 year old, i see it lol
Skylar gets the most hate of all because she was never a good wife to Walt at any point during the show. It was hinted that she encouraged him to sell his stake in Gray Matter and fought him every step of the way. Carmella could be a hypocrite and callous toward Tony at times, but she at least loved him and always contributed to the relationship.
Vince Gilligan confirmed that Walt should his share because he felt inferior to Gretchen and her family's wealth
Walt's mistskes are on him. Not anybodys else, that why fans hate her. She never wanted any of it. To point that people resort to complain about her half hearted handjob to justify their disslike towards her.
I dislike how people see the Carmela character as materialistic or not wanting to work for things. He controlled their lives from the beginning he didn’t want her to work the same as Chris said he didn’t want Adriana to work after they got married and the same as all of the men in the family. It’s a cultural and traditional thing. She provided legitimacy to his life and a stability for their children that’s all she had to do and she did it. He gave her things to buy her complicity and she chose to perceive them as romance. That doesn’t make her a bad person. If she lorded her status over anyone..So what? She was a mob boss wife if you can’t use your power to get things then, when can you?. He ruined her chances of life after a divorce and we all know he would never have let her live a life without him he was far too selfish for that. so she compromised and asked for the spec house and it was the smartest choice she could have made at the time.
In the end she was the only character to look inward and to personally and openly accept blame.
Also she’s hot.
Stop with the glazing.
Carmela is also a TERRIBLE person.
And yes...
She is materialistic. Notice how whenever Tony does something dispecable he uses that blood money to buy something for Carmela.
To her a new car or piece of jewelry makes up for the fact that her husband does terrible things. She even low-key admits this in therapy.
She chose to marry Tony, know who he was and what his lifestyle entailed. She could leave at any point but choses to stay. She could turn Tony into the feds but choses to enable him.
She also uses Tony's criminal infamy to her advantage when it suits her by threatening and coercing people to get what she wants i.e. letter of recommendation for Meadow.
She's literally the opposite of Charmaine Bucco which makes her not to far from Tony.
Carmela once wanted to divorce Tony. She compromised.
Carmela is the main reason I quit watching, she ruined the show.
Carmela, from loving mother and wife to money hungry gold digger. I liked Carmela early on the show but as the season's progressed she got insecure about herself and became all about money. Money this money that and spending lots of money and on top of that wanted more for her future. Her excuse was what if something happens to you tony, what I'm I left with. But she was really reeling on for herself and that's why she was involved with that other house as another way to spend and make Xtra money for her not tony and het. She was selfless and conyving.
Carmella put up with so damn much and she’s flawed and fascinating.
Exactly what did she put up with? I never saw her scrambling to get off work to get to the school to pick up her kids. Then race home to a 2 bedroom apartment and get dinner made. Review the kid’s homework. Get them to bed at a reasonable time. Wake up early the next morning and do the same shit all over again. No she got sit up in a castle, never really had to lift a finger. At no point was she in any real danger. Tony took all the risks. She just benefited from the her sociopath of a husband took.
I haven't seen not one episode of The Sopranos but I've seen all the Take's takes about it. Anyone else???? Ha ha
I hate how sopranos fans see Carmela, Tony is a hero, Carmela is a devil.
Same. She is in no way as bad as Tony simply for being complicit.
With out tony she would be in the market giving out free sausages 😄 she could never be a woman like Angie 😅
If I was Carmela I would have cut Tony's affairs and become a mafia boss by myself. Going to hell anyway, but with dignity and resources
"Oh really?"😅
Diffence is Carmella knew what she bought when she got with Tony Skylar sucks but she didn't buy that Carmella knew from jump and loved it
I dunno about that Hillary reference, it was Tony that caused the corpses.
Either way, I kinda wished she would have given Victor Musto the Stinkface treatment. He was a good-looking dude, and this is me saying that shit.
We do.
After this channels Harry Potter was really the villain of the story or w/e it was called video I don't really trust in anything they say anymore.
I Love her. For me she's the show's best character.
Tbf carmela trued to get a divorce once, ans Tony bribed all the lawyers so she couldn't
She should never have gone into that bird feed. The ducks are what started everything in the first place.
As dependent as she was on Tony for her lavish lifestyle. Really makes me wonder what happened to her after Tony's death. You know Paulie didn't pay her shit when he took over hehehe
Carmela took my bird money too
So what you're saying is she's like Shrek because they have layers
Tony is a good guy... As far as being a drug dealing, serial killing, extortionist can be
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