Oh crap that makes so much sense! It’s like Dave’s telling William that he’s not fooled by his manipulation anymore. Dave being TOYSNHK makes UCN so much more satisfying
Afton the drunk --- I think it's very possible that Afton pre-meditates his actions and then drunks until he's "comfortable" with going through with it. Evil people can still be cowards; Afton might want to do horrible, terrible things but he might not have the nerve until he's drunk himself half to death.
or in some cases won't do it himself and have his own child do it for him because he'd rather lose another child then get beat the animatronics that HE BUILT
This theory is NARRATIVELY satisfying. I still don't think JRs was also for kids, but it's likely that Dave was running off somewhere. Still, everything else is really good. And I like that Dave is no longer passive. Plus it makes sense with the other spirits. ALL the dead kids are represented as crying children who are PIIIISSED, it makes sense that Dave is also like THAT'S IT. "The one you should not have killed" also works as "Whoopsie Doopsie that was a mistake". I love it!! I like theories that remember that Scott is trying to tell a story, rather than trying to make a perfect puzzle. It also makes Gregory defeating Burntrap even better, NARRATIVELY speaking, even if it wasn't what Scott originally intended.
Dude, JRs is probably something like a Buffalo Wild Wings in a small town. Kids would probably go there all the time. If it within walking distance for Dave then he definitely would go to get away from his dad and the people there probably know him and take pity on him
When you dropped the bomb that Afton killed his own son and that he's an alcoholic it all made sense. This has gotta be one of the best fnaf theories I've heard in a long time
Holy shit, dude. I don’t say this often, but this is it. You did it. This solves every gripe I’ve had with popular explanations for almost a decade now. Phenomenal theory! I cannot tell you how satisfying this was to watch!
@ I’ve been doing so much research on the box and for it to be interpreted as “crying child not dead” during the context of FNaF 4 is really absurd. Scott said it’s the pieces put together. Compare that to “I will put you back together, the pieces are in place for you” in FNaF world is an obvious hint towards ShatterVictim. The theory that the bite victim’s memories are shattered across all off Freddy’s.
@@Trontotario I do agree that shatter victim/mike protag were the original main plot points we were meant to put together during FNAF 4. But to discredit this entire theory when the contents of the box changed (by scott’s own admission multiple times) as early as fnaf 5 seems a bit extreme.
@@jaredleebarker this is exactly my hesitation. I think the back half of this video is really compelling but I don't feel like it fully gels for me. I'm open to being convinced.
Especially in Utah. Back then you could only serve hard alcohol in private clubs, taverns which sold small beers couldn't permit children, and restaurants which could also sell small beers, couldn't advertise that they did so and you had to buy food with it. A dance hall is a specific early to mid 20th century establishment that was essentially the predecessor to a night club, not a family entertainment place.
@@jaredleebarker my personal theory is that after the bite of 83 fredbear family dinner closed and after some time a bar opened in its place and David (who is mentally ill) still thinks its still open and goes there constantly. This is the only thing that would make sense to me
I don’t think the TV scene is Dave, Mike and William. I think it’s Dave, Mike and Elizabeth. Two characters are clearly the same height, unlikely for child and teenage brothers. Plus Michael takes centre stage (assuming I’m right) and Michael is the only one associated with TV. After Michael stops bullying Dave, it’s likely that Dave forgave Michael before he died. Dave’s ideal happiest day is a happy family, though he probably thinks he can’t have a happy family if his dad is there (and let’s face it, that’s probably true). Dave’s happiest day is him and all the members of his family he loves spending time together doing what they love (and as a side note, it’s possible his mum died or left when he was a baby, hence her absence). This even ties into the theory that Michael is still alive in Security Breach as that has the only depiction of Mrs Afton we’ve ever seen, and only William and Michael would remember her.
Right, like aside from that, I think this theory is GREAT, but i'm sold on candi bunnny's theory about where Golden Freddy is in fnaf 3. I do think the two theories could very nicely fit together either way, though, with a bit of cleanup here and there
I also think that its going to turn out that "the baby isn't mine". We find out the crying child is named Dave, and now it seems Afton is a kidnapper. And we're getting a prequel coworker of Afton with a young son named Dave. Seems to be lining up... watch, it won't.
Absolutely amazing. This might be the most satisfying take on midnight motorist that i’ve ever seen, and heck, i think this is what Scott intended! The only thing I don’t know is why William would put his own son through the experiments
Watch Candi Buunny's "What do you MEAN "The BABY isn't Mine???" theory video. It ties in very well to this theory in that dave is NOT William's biological son, but instead Henry's son, and William kidnapped him. Both this and Candi's theory isn't perfect in my opinion but I would bet you the reality of the story lies somewhere between the two of them.
Holy cow! Saw the video and yea, some things do really line up! Heck, William kidnapping Henry’s son lines up with the movie, and could even explain “The wound first inflicted on me”, if Charlie ends up not being the first victim (cause of Help Wanted 2). And yea I definitely agree that the truth lies somewhere in between these 2 videos
If he's an intense alcoholic, he probably feels more sober while drunk than sober. Him being able to put a suit, that he has worn for years, on drunk doesn't say much. Matter of fact him being a raging alcoholic makes a lot of sense.
This is probably one of my favourite fnaf theories. It lines up so well with pizza sim and ucn. It’s really strange nobody thought of that before Congrats I hope you do more theories🔥
Actually some did. Dual Process Theory thought this 5 months ago. I believe there was at least one other person even before them but it didn't get seen by very many people.
This is actually a really good theory. I like how your main focus is the games and using the books as just a backup. There are parts where i disagree. The supporting evidence for the end of your theory in regards of the desth order and the balloons are the only ones i can think of. But, i love the narrative your telling 10/10
@@sebastianszyrwinski9325 ikr. Im genuinely so frustrated how no one is actually putting this theory into question. In the first seconds this guy even says "we will not let the timeline affect this minigame" that's an instant red flag.
I was skeptical at first, particularly with the FNAF logbook and how Mike drew Nightmare Fredbear but MAN you convinced me! Having FNAF4 protagonist being Dave makes sense, the fnaf movie dream theory segments are a good parallel if true, and having Dave being the one you should not have killed is much more satisfying than it being a random child that is angry for being dead, because you could apply that to any of the other children including Charlotte. It also makes sense for Dave to be the one who references dialogue from FNAF4
I didn't by it at first, as I'm avid believe in Michael run away. However, you said why would Afton kidnap his own child, and I yelled out "He's Drunk!". I'd have to think on it some more as it changes Michael timeline a lot, but it's compelling.
I love this theory one of my favorites in a while. The only thing I think is a bit off is that Dave would constantly sneak out of his room to go to JR’s. JR’s while they may have the Mediocre Melodie’s, is a bar and I have no clue if they would allow random kids in (unless they know who he is which then brings up more questions). Also at the time of this escape he would have to be capable of sneaking out with a severe frontal lobe injury which I think would make Dave bedridden and not just able to sneak out whenever he wants. To give you credit the dialogue William says about Dave going to that place again could just be him misremembering things in his drunken state. Maybe he used to sneak out before the bite and since William doesn’t remember killing him that what his mind immediately goes to. Really awesome video overall hope to see more soon!
He wouldn't have a frontal lobe injury like that, the frontal lobe thing is the aftermath of the Bite of 87, not of 83, which was probably still done to Jeremy Fitzgerald in the FNAF 2 location or whatever. The Bite of 83 has no reference to any frontal lobes I'm pretty sure, all that's shown is that the kid was shoved in an animatronic's mouth and got crushed and injured, but that's it, what specific kind of injury we don't know.
@@legoboy7107 I thought the fandom found evidence that the bite we saw in FNAF 4 was actually the bite of 83'. Am I wrong? If so, could you clear that up or recommend me a video on it?
@@kingkat7113 No, you're right, the bite in FNAF 4 was in 1983, I never said anything disputing that, re-read my comment. I'm saying that the whole "frontal lobe" thing was the Bite of 87 as stated in FNAF 1, and NOT the FNAF 4 Bite of 83. The 1983 bite in FNAF 4 was never implied to have anything to do with any frontal lobe injuries, so I'm saying that Dave wouldn't have any frontal lobe injury because he was a victim of the 83 bite, and the "frontal lobe" was only ever stated with regards to the Bite of 87 which wasn't him. Nowhere was it implied that Dave had any frontal lobe damages from the Bite of 83, that's strictly what happened to Jeremy Fitzgerald in the Bite of 87.
This might be spesific to my area, but a lot of places near me allow kids while also having bars without actually being bars. Boston Pizza being the first to come to mind for me, maybe Jr's is meant to be like that in this theory?
I actually agree with alot of stuff in this video like BVrunaway and BVtestchambers and CassidyReceiver however I must point out that the interpretation of the box is false. 17:21 Scott literally states what he meant with “would the community accept it that way” THE FACT THAT THE PIECES HAVE REMAINED ELUSIVE meaning that as a sort of punishment the contents of the box would not be revealed. Scott has already said what’s in the box in the same post. The pieces put together, what pieces? Well one thing Scott likes to do is use new games to clarify misconceptions from the past. Whats after game 4? FNaF world. By collecting the clocks which tie to the happiest day mini games the ever elusive yellow eyes tells us “the pieces are in place for you”, that’s it, the pieces we’ve been collecting were the happiest day mini games/memories of the crying child. Now back to the bite interpretation. Yes he could have survived like the others however in the week before it’s been stated that the bite of 87 victim hasn’t been able to do much and couldn’t talk at all basically turning him into a parasite which if we’re going by bite victim running away wouldn’t make any sense since he would be a parasitic good for nothing. 26:42 You can’t really use the high school toy chica cutscene as proof since she also states burning the house down which is NOT what Afton does in midnight motorist
@@Trontotariowhat about linking each response used by altered to a question asked by faded and then "reflecting" the result hinted on by the mirror and the constant repeating of the word "reflect" does not make sense to you?
@ the mirror is for the question “what do you see” it’s supposed to give context to that question. As for the reflect part, it’s telling you to reflect on your happiest day, the happiest day is bite victim’s birthday but reflected. Also Dave is 4 letters, it’s unnecessary for Scott to reverse that name backwards because you can literally see Dave from Evad. I can hear Sounds doesn’t seem like a response to does he still talk to you I’m scared isn’t a response to do you have dreams? My interpretation is Cassidy asks first, “Do you remember your name?” The dead tend to forget so this goes unanswered “What do you see? Are any of these toys familiar to you?” BV would reply “I’m scared, I can’t see, but I can hear sounds. Cassidy knowing this asks “was your favourite childhood toy a plastic purple telephone?” This question always seemed off because it’s a lot more specific than “are any of these toys familiar to you?” But if we combine all of BV’s “replies” then it would fix everything
this is such an amazing theory! i’m so glad i found your channel!! i love the way you were able to tie in mike seeing nightmare fredbear and the reverse phone call. i love the idea that william is so black out drunk he can’t remember his own murder spree and especially the idea that he failed to kidnap charlie dave being toysnhk is such a cool idea
Dang dude, this is such an amazing theory. My friend forwarded this to me recently, and I was just in awe of how many questions this answered. Definitely one of the best FNAF theories I’ve heard ever. As a long time veteran of the series and the semi-new lead director of the fangame “JR’s: Enter The Flipside”, thank you for shedding light on a new perspective for midnight motorist. It’s so cool to see people actually lean into elements of the original story that are somewhat ambiguous still, and make sense of it. It’s what the team and I are trying to do with “JR’s”, yet in our own AU of sorts. I still think midnight motorist and by extension FFPS offers some of the most fascinating lore content in the series. Very impressive work and I look forward to seeing more from you! Great work man, you’ve earned my sub. (Also side note, thank you for crediting me in the description for using my SL footage! It’s highly appreciated)!
Great theory. Midnight Motorist truly is confusing lol FNAF theories in general is like going to court. I was truly confused with the Crying Child's (Dave) survival, and the Spring Bonnie suit. My personal belief is that the Crying Child didn't survive long for Midnight Motorist, I think it ruins the tragedy of the event. "The Week Before" plays back the '83 event, people shout and scream noticing the bullies activity. The imagery of "Curse of Dreadbear" hints of a fallfest in '83, William Afton's car on the back referencing Midnight Motorist makes me believe Charlie died at a Halloween/Fallfest event. (Charlie gets kidnapped at Halloween and her missing gets reported November 1st - Silver Eyes). Which would put Crying Child before Charlie. The dirt pile would still be the Crying Child. I also believe Michael was the experiment victim, as an effect of the bite. The Crying Child wouldn't see the flowers, pills and the IV drip. (As a reference to the final cutscene, Crying Child was in a void with the plushies.) Michael did saw that, and in the movie, Mike takes similar looking pills (Loprazolam). Michael hears Phone Guy and sees Fredbear due to his brother's presence, which he draws in the logbook. (In the FNAF 4 map, we see 4 transparent dots, the original four. Unless you could say Fredbear is present on the Plushtrap map, which there are 4 dots plus Plushtrap.)
Ok but it makes Michael protecting Dave from William so sad He thought he was protecting his brother but Dave is already dead by that point..... Okay but I really like idea of Dave being that vengeful menace. And the fact that this theory makes every Afton kid directly or indirectly killed by Wiliam: Dave by William himself, Elizabeth because of him creating Baby and telling she's for her and Michael by sending him knowing that those bchs want to scoop him and that Mike looks like him
Solid theory! Thegamesalmon did a video on the psychology of William Afton and this lines up pretty well with that! Midnight Motorist is my favorite of the theories and this may be my favorite yet!
i dont think it entirely adds up but i appreciate that this explores the idea of the split personality in william like we see in vanessa also. one personality purposely obscuring memories from the other. +2
One thing I wonder about though, when you bring up the Bear of Vengeance anime cutscenes, is what's the meaning behind the Japanese lines. Because I'm not sure if people still remember this, but the Japanese voiced lines are NOT the same as the English subtitles, like, at all. They're completely different and are also scrambled I believe, but they still had some connection to some of the visuals, they still mention a conflict between the Bear and the Fox with the Fox antagonizing the Bear, mentions the Bear sitting under the tree, the Fox having a dojo, Mangle being stuck, etc., but they're still completely different from the English lines and tell a completely different story. I still to this day have no idea what to make out of that, but it was clearly intentional and surely must be hiding something. I just re-read the translation of the Japanese when writing this, and one line from The Fox that stands out is "Actually, to begin with, I planned to make lots of annoying noises outside that one window, but after that, he became an alcoholic. And apparently, it was on my birthday. So naturally, I dragged him out of the trough, and rolled him around in the alpaca droppings for a while. It was so much fun!" Worth noting that this is someone's translation of Japanese lines that were themselves apparently a Google Translation from Scott's original English script to Japanese (so I guess Scott had used Google Translate instead of having a person translate it), so some stuff like pronouns could have gotten messed up or something in the conversions so it's not all fully the literal intended meaning. But those lines in particular sounded eerily similar to a lot of things from your theory here, though not exactly. Could be coincidence but still is interesting. And I don't think anyone has really worked out what the Japanese script is supposed to actually mean.
It's definitely clear you think about this franchise a lot, just like I do. I really appreciate this video. Unconventional takes are valuable, and critical analysis like this is super important to the community, even if I don't agree with all your reasoning. I think you should consider speaking a little more quickly, like you're having a conversation. Your delivery is most confident at the end of each sentence, which is very normal when you're getting confident in front of a microphone. You might also consider turning individual moments in this video into shorts. Subbed, I look forward to your future work. ❤
@Thunder17_- I'm only offering my opinion on that aspect of the video for their sake. I actually like the speed at which they speak but when I did a brief stint at a college radio station, the advice they gave was to focus on the speed of your delivery and you'll be too preoccupied to be nervous. It's good for practice but I had mixed results on the job, maybe it'll help this guy.
@@blanktester I understand and it’s a great thing to try to give advice that can potentially help a new and upcoming speaker. I was simply just stating that for some reason at 1.5x speed it actually almost sounds like he is talking at a regular speed
I've been in the community for a decade now and this video blows my mind. This perspective makes sense on a lot of angles and it's honestly just satisfying. Great job on the video!
It’s a solid theory which can be disproven by different interpretations of course. I’m pretty sure the box is supposed to reference ShatterVictim, the theory that Bite Victim’s memories are shattered across Freddy Fazbears. ShatterVictim gives us the meaning for “four games one story” “in the FNaF 4 minigame why would the tiny toy chica be missing her beak?” However no one at all solved what Scott was trying to tell us. He said himself at that time, before ShatterVictim was even considered. What’s in the box is supposed to relate with this theory. “What’s in the box are the pieces put together” this is Scott’s early attempt to hint us towards ShatterVictim but no one even understood it and so the story stays unsolved and Scott must use his new games to guide us to the right direction. “Would the community accept it that way?” Would the community accept that what’s in the box is currently undecided. FNaF world: “the pieces are in place for you” “I will put you back together” Sister location: “I put her back together” “I’m broken, I can’t be fixed” “there’s a little of me in every body” FNaF 6: this one involves MoltenMCI which Scott would also need to clarify alongside ShatterVictim. Having all the Fazbear memorabilia burnt in Fazbear frights would force the crying child to manifest the remaining parts of him left, Molten Freddy, the MCI. “One big happy family” “together again” What’s in the box is probably a watch or a toy but it was unimportant enough for Scott to deem undecided, probably because ShatterVictim finally exists as a theory thanks to Cuben Fancy
Very good theory!! I have just 2 problems: A thing I find interesting in a story is to know the reason of evil.Not to approve them but to understand and as such Afton started experimenting on children since 1883 and maybe before... lacks reasons ( did he already understood remnant?). Then why killing his son? We are after the bite of 83, he told him "I will put you back together", he drinks and then decided "time to kill Dave"? Then no issue to experiment on dave but he tries to avoid Elizabeth from Baby? Otherwise, the theory stands.
This is the best theory I think I've ever heard for FNAF, and this video really didn't feel like it was almost 40 minutes. Please keep making content like this, this is phenomenal
I still believe Mike is who we play as during the FNAF 4 gameplay, because in the Survival Logbook, Mike (who writes with a red pen) draws a PERFECTLY ACCURATE Nightmare Fredbear. The only way he can do that is if he's seen it himself. However, I also believe William put both his sons through the experiments.
Well, in this theory Mike does somehow dream the FNAF4 sequences himself, so he DOES see that in his dream, which lines up with the phone call Easter Egg and the direct parallels between FNAF4's and FNAF1's gameplays and stuff, not to mention the prompt where he drew the picture was about dreams. So in this he saw Nightmare Fredbear while dreaming on the job in FNAF1. Now, WHY he would dream of the experiments his younger brother actually faced like that, I don't know.
Someone get fuhnaff or ryetoast in here, i was super impressed halfway through before realizing it doesnt even have 1k views yet and you have 34 (now 35!) subs
Hey that's very intersting now that I got to the end Love this theory, makes much more sense for him to be the important one among the children William has killed However, that makes me think, if the five firsts spirits really moved on, then who's in the funtimes and molten freddy? I'm very excited to see what your future videos will look like
This has to be one of the best videos I watched, the plot twists, the storytelling, and the theory being batshit crazy but still plausible has to be the peak of content creation
i know this is your first video, but this is genuinely huge and you deserve so much recognition for figuring this out. i hope this theory becomes more widespread in the community because its just pure genius!! genuinely like well done omg im like at a loss for words.
Showing support with a like and sub. Haven't watched the full video but am currently watching your summery, HUGELY appreciate and LOVE your animations of the events. Your work has been worth all it's effort I was only gonna watch like 2 minutes and keep doing what I was doing but I FELL into this video. I will be coming back to watch more of your stuff! Way better than my work. Actually been periodically stopping writing this to watch this. Excited for what you do next
I have a mini theory, what if his alcoholism is the reason for the DCI. I mean think about it, the bodies were never hidden and he seemed pretty careless where he put them.
Ah! So, this is the BlackoutMM theory I'd read about before (if memory serves correctly, it was on the FNAF Theories wiki). While I'm not really sold on it, this was a very interesting and different take on this mysterious minigame. Keep up the good work. 👍
@@chararaltacc But that can be applied to any part of the lore. FuhNaff claimed that the CC died twice (once in a vision and then for real) by the hands of Funtime Freddy disguised as Fredbear via an illusion and then somehow came back as a robot, despite the fact that FF and FB both have different toe counts + it wouldn't really make that much sense for the footprints to be from the illusion. While yes, it would shake up our understanding of the lore, but it's such a far stretch that it easily falls apart when analyzed.
It's always been the "Missing Children Incident". In other versions of the story (books, movies) Afton kidnaps children. The bodies where never found. There are multiple white dots... The Funtimes are built to distract parents and capture children once they are isolated. I don't think Afton is a slasher killer; I think he is a mad scientist, who's experiments always end in dead children. I think that's the biggest "mistake" the FNAF community has made; assuming that "stuffing" is literal, when, I think, "stuffing" is an over-the-top rumor that is outrageous on purpose... Because the truth lies right under everyone's feet; the remnant, the agony that can get "harvested" is the special sauce that brings the animatronics to "life" and later is what fuels the VR/AR technology that's too advanced to exist (notice the crying children noises when in VR/AR). The sick truth is Fazbear realized what Afton Robotics was doing and sub-contracted with them; Fazbear the company funded Afton's fear experiments (how did he get the money to build the bunker/underground warehouse/ experiment rooms?). This is why Fazbear scans old circuit boards and locks the Glamrocks in their 'rooms' (cages) after hours. FNAF's "secret story" is corporate greed funding madness and murder.
William being blackout drunk and killing dave himself actually makes so much sense. I already thought he was the one who finished him off after the bite/hospital stint but the drunk bit also tracks
The emphasis on chica's highschool directly connecting to the murder victims is definitely nice to see! Not really sure about some of the other conclusions tho. Great first video!
Holy crap I never thought of chica n her messenger bag being the graveyard hill. I kept being skeptical and then being presented with strong evidence. I'm not fully convinced on the first listen through but I sure am convinced to subscribe!
Bro came outta nowhere with a sore throat and drops the best fnaf theory in years
No?
"We know who our friends are & your not one of them"
That makes so much more sense now omg
Oh crap that makes so much sense! It’s like Dave’s telling William that he’s not fooled by his manipulation anymore. Dave being TOYSNHK makes UCN so much more satisfying
Holy shit you’re right!!
Yes
Afton the drunk --- I think it's very possible that Afton pre-meditates his actions and then drunks until he's "comfortable" with going through with it. Evil people can still be cowards; Afton might want to do horrible, terrible things but he might not have the nerve until he's drunk himself half to death.
You're right. Afton has been portrayed as a coward since the very beginning of the franchise.
or in some cases won't do it himself and have his own child do it for him because he'd rather lose another child then get beat the animatronics that HE BUILT
This theory is NARRATIVELY satisfying. I still don't think JRs was also for kids, but it's likely that Dave was running off somewhere. Still, everything else is really good. And I like that Dave is no longer passive. Plus it makes sense with the other spirits. ALL the dead kids are represented as crying children who are PIIIISSED, it makes sense that Dave is also like THAT'S IT.
"The one you should not have killed" also works as "Whoopsie Doopsie that was a mistake". I love it!! I like theories that remember that Scott is trying to tell a story, rather than trying to make a perfect puzzle.
It also makes Gregory defeating Burntrap even better, NARRATIVELY speaking, even if it wasn't what Scott originally intended.
Dude, JRs is probably something like a Buffalo Wild Wings in a small town. Kids would probably go there all the time. If it within walking distance for Dave then he definitely would go to get away from his dad and the people there probably know him and take pity on him
When you dropped the bomb that Afton killed his own son and that he's an alcoholic it all made sense. This has gotta be one of the best fnaf theories I've heard in a long time
but willam has great review by people around him?
We already knew he was an abusive alcoholic, the big revelation is that he might have killed his son.
most understandable theory for midnight motorist ive ever seen
Holy shit, dude. I don’t say this often, but this is it. You did it. This solves every gripe I’ve had with popular explanations for almost a decade now. Phenomenal theory! I cannot tell you how satisfying this was to watch!
Yeah but his interpretation of the box isn’t right.
@ and what’s ur objectively correct interpretation of the box, lol…
@ I’ve been doing so much research on the box and for it to be interpreted as “crying child not dead” during the context of FNaF 4 is really absurd. Scott said it’s the pieces put together. Compare that to “I will put you back together, the pieces are in place for you” in FNaF world is an obvious hint towards ShatterVictim. The theory that the bite victim’s memories are shattered across all off Freddy’s.
@@thatssobrunette So was it better or not?
@@Trontotario I do agree that shatter victim/mike protag were the original main plot points we were meant to put together during FNAF 4. But to discredit this entire theory when the contents of the box changed (by scott’s own admission multiple times) as early as fnaf 5 seems a bit extreme.
even the name of "The one you should not have killed" like it was an accident, in his drunkenness he killed his own son
It’s interesting, although I’m not completely sold on Jr’s being both a bar and a place for kids that William would assume Dave to go at the same time
@@jaredleebarker this is exactly my hesitation. I think the back half of this video is really compelling but I don't feel like it fully gels for me. I'm open to being convinced.
Agree, it felt the same!
Especially in Utah. Back then you could only serve hard alcohol in private clubs, taverns which sold small beers couldn't permit children, and restaurants which could also sell small beers, couldn't advertise that they did so and you had to buy food with it. A dance hall is a specific early to mid 20th century establishment that was essentially the predecessor to a night club, not a family entertainment place.
@@jaredleebarker my personal theory is that after the bite of 83 fredbear family dinner closed and after some time a bar opened in its place and David (who is mentally ill) still thinks its still open and goes there constantly. This is the only thing that would make sense to me
I wouldnt be surprised if Dave drinks alcohol
someone get this guy a cough drop
Nah the voice is perfect
I love his voice so nice
@@violetpoppy91women do be weird
@@ki11aqueen5this is why u freaks are gonna be lonely forever tbh
@@ki11aqueen5dude fr. This is the type of guy to have blacked out eyeliner
Bro really has that "Number 15" ah voice
12:00 I wasn’t completely sold on the chica being a metaphor for afton yet but DAMN this makes so much sense
I don’t think the TV scene is Dave, Mike and William. I think it’s Dave, Mike and Elizabeth. Two characters are clearly the same height, unlikely for child and teenage brothers. Plus Michael takes centre stage (assuming I’m right) and Michael is the only one associated with TV. After Michael stops bullying Dave, it’s likely that Dave forgave Michael before he died. Dave’s ideal happiest day is a happy family, though he probably thinks he can’t have a happy family if his dad is there (and let’s face it, that’s probably true). Dave’s happiest day is him and all the members of his family he loves spending time together doing what they love (and as a side note, it’s possible his mum died or left when he was a baby, hence her absence). This even ties into the theory that Michael is still alive in Security Breach as that has the only depiction of Mrs Afton we’ve ever seen, and only William and Michael would remember her.
Right, like aside from that, I think this theory is GREAT, but i'm sold on candi bunnny's theory about where Golden Freddy is in fnaf 3. I do think the two theories could very nicely fit together either way, though, with a bit of cleanup here and there
I also think that its going to turn out that "the baby isn't mine". We find out the crying child is named Dave, and now it seems Afton is a kidnapper. And we're getting a prequel coworker of Afton with a young son named Dave. Seems to be lining up... watch, it won't.
Absolutely amazing. This might be the most satisfying take on midnight motorist that i’ve ever seen, and heck, i think this is what Scott intended! The only thing I don’t know is why William would put his own son through the experiments
Watch Candi Buunny's "What do you MEAN "The BABY isn't Mine???" theory video. It ties in very well to this theory in that dave is NOT William's biological son, but instead Henry's son, and William kidnapped him. Both this and Candi's theory isn't perfect in my opinion but I would bet you the reality of the story lies somewhere between the two of them.
Holy cow! Saw the video and yea, some things do really line up! Heck, William kidnapping Henry’s son lines up with the movie, and could even explain “The wound first inflicted on me”, if Charlie ends up not being the first victim (cause of Help Wanted 2). And yea I definitely agree that the truth lies somewhere in between these 2 videos
Okay but you gotta admit, William would have to be that good for him to be able to put the suit on while drunk😭
If he's an intense alcoholic, he probably feels more sober while drunk than sober. Him being able to put a suit, that he has worn for years, on drunk doesn't say much. Matter of fact him being a raging alcoholic makes a lot of sense.
This is probably one of my favourite fnaf theories. It lines up so well with pizza sim and ucn. It’s really strange nobody thought of that before
Congrats I hope you do more theories🔥
Actually some did. Dual Process Theory thought this 5 months ago. I believe there was at least one other person even before them but it didn't get seen by very many people.
This is pretty much just the the baby isn’t mine theory that’s been around since fnaf sl
This is actually a really good theory. I like how your main focus is the games and using the books as just a backup.
There are parts where i disagree. The supporting evidence for the end of your theory in regards of the desth order and the balloons are the only ones i can think of. But, i love the narrative your telling 10/10
Bro just offered a satisfying explanation for midnight motorist, the box, the mediocre melodies, and those weird fucking ucn cutscenes in 37 minutes
Maybe satisfaction, but incorrect
@@sebastianszyrwinski9325 ikr. Im genuinely so frustrated how no one is actually putting this theory into question. In the first seconds this guy even says "we will not let the timeline affect this minigame" that's an instant red flag.
@@Trontotario because is incorrent and nonsense?
Bro fr cooked on this theory. Made me rethink my entire perspective on some of this shit. (Please cook up some more FNAF theories!)
I was skeptical at first, particularly with the FNAF logbook and how Mike drew Nightmare Fredbear but MAN you convinced me! Having FNAF4 protagonist being Dave makes sense, the fnaf movie dream theory segments are a good parallel if true, and having Dave being the one you should not have killed is much more satisfying than it being a random child that is angry for being dead, because you could apply that to any of the other children including Charlotte. It also makes sense for Dave to be the one who references dialogue from FNAF4
I didn't by it at first, as I'm avid believe in Michael run away. However, you said why would Afton kidnap his own child, and I yelled out "He's Drunk!".
I'd have to think on it some more as it changes Michael timeline a lot, but it's compelling.
I love this theory one of my favorites in a while. The only thing I think is a bit off is that Dave would constantly sneak out of his room to go to JR’s. JR’s while they may have the Mediocre Melodie’s, is a bar and I have no clue if they would allow random kids in (unless they know who he is which then brings up more questions). Also at the time of this escape he would have to be capable of sneaking out with a severe frontal lobe injury which I think would make Dave bedridden and not just able to sneak out whenever he wants.
To give you credit the dialogue William says about Dave going to that place again could just be him misremembering things in his drunken state. Maybe he used to sneak out before the bite and since William doesn’t remember killing him that what his mind immediately goes to.
Really awesome video overall hope to see more soon!
He wouldn't have a frontal lobe injury like that, the frontal lobe thing is the aftermath of the Bite of 87, not of 83, which was probably still done to Jeremy Fitzgerald in the FNAF 2 location or whatever. The Bite of 83 has no reference to any frontal lobes I'm pretty sure, all that's shown is that the kid was shoved in an animatronic's mouth and got crushed and injured, but that's it, what specific kind of injury we don't know.
@@legoboy7107 I thought the fandom found evidence that the bite we saw in FNAF 4 was actually the bite of 83'. Am I wrong? If so, could you clear that up or recommend me a video on it?
@@kingkat7113 No, you're right, the bite in FNAF 4 was in 1983, I never said anything disputing that, re-read my comment. I'm saying that the whole "frontal lobe" thing was the Bite of 87 as stated in FNAF 1, and NOT the FNAF 4 Bite of 83. The 1983 bite in FNAF 4 was never implied to have anything to do with any frontal lobe injuries, so I'm saying that Dave wouldn't have any frontal lobe injury because he was a victim of the 83 bite, and the "frontal lobe" was only ever stated with regards to the Bite of 87 which wasn't him. Nowhere was it implied that Dave had any frontal lobe damages from the Bite of 83, that's strictly what happened to Jeremy Fitzgerald in the Bite of 87.
This might be spesific to my area, but a lot of places near me allow kids while also having bars without actually being bars. Boston Pizza being the first to come to mind for me, maybe Jr's is meant to be like that in this theory?
@@legoboy7107 Oh ok, I got the 2 confused. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'M LOCKED IN. Thumbnail and title alone have me hooked
this is an incredibly well put together and perfectly detailed video. the dots connected perfectly w the way you put it, nice job
I actually agree with alot of stuff in this video like BVrunaway and BVtestchambers and CassidyReceiver however I must point out that the interpretation of the box is false.
17:21 Scott literally states what he meant with “would the community accept it that way” THE FACT THAT THE PIECES HAVE REMAINED ELUSIVE meaning that as a sort of punishment the contents of the box would not be revealed. Scott has already said what’s in the box in the same post. The pieces put together, what pieces? Well one thing Scott likes to do is use new games to clarify misconceptions from the past. Whats after game 4? FNaF world. By collecting the clocks which tie to the happiest day mini games the ever elusive yellow eyes tells us “the pieces are in place for you”, that’s it, the pieces we’ve been collecting were the happiest day mini games/memories of the crying child.
Now back to the bite interpretation. Yes he could have survived like the others however in the week before it’s been stated that the bite of 87 victim hasn’t been able to do much and couldn’t talk at all basically turning him into a parasite which if we’re going by bite victim running away wouldn’t make any sense since he would be a parasitic good for nothing.
26:42 You can’t really use the high school toy chica cutscene as proof since she also states burning the house down which is NOT what Afton does in midnight motorist
This theory gave me the same feelings as the "dave" theory, feelings of completion, satisfaction... You did it man, you solved midnight motorist...
Yeah except that the technique used to find Dave makes absolutely no sense
@@Trontotariowhat about linking each response used by altered to a question asked by faded and then "reflecting" the result hinted on by the mirror and the constant repeating of the word "reflect" does not make sense to you?
@ the mirror is for the question “what do you see” it’s supposed to give context to that question. As for the reflect part, it’s telling you to reflect on your happiest day, the happiest day is bite victim’s birthday but reflected. Also Dave is 4 letters, it’s unnecessary for Scott to reverse that name backwards because you can literally see Dave from Evad.
I can hear Sounds doesn’t seem like a response to does he still talk to you
I’m scared isn’t a response to do you have dreams?
My interpretation is Cassidy asks first, “Do you remember your name?” The dead tend to forget so this goes unanswered “What do you see? Are any of these toys familiar to you?”
BV would reply “I’m scared, I can’t see, but I can hear sounds.
Cassidy knowing this asks “was your favourite childhood toy a plastic purple telephone?”
This question always seemed off because it’s a lot more specific than “are any of these toys familiar to you?” But if we combine all of BV’s “replies” then it would fix everything
this is such an amazing theory! i’m so glad i found your channel!! i love the way you were able to tie in mike seeing nightmare fredbear and the reverse phone call. i love the idea that william is so black out drunk he can’t remember his own murder spree and especially the idea that he failed to kidnap charlie
dave being toysnhk is such a cool idea
You would probably be convinced by MikeTrap and adult theory
This theory actually blew my mind. Well done!
Dang dude, this is such an amazing theory. My friend forwarded this to me recently, and I was just in awe of how many questions this answered. Definitely one of the best FNAF theories I’ve heard ever.
As a long time veteran of the series and the semi-new lead director of the fangame “JR’s: Enter The Flipside”, thank you for shedding light on a new perspective for midnight motorist. It’s so cool to see people actually lean into elements of the original story that are somewhat ambiguous still, and make sense of it. It’s what the team and I are trying to do with “JR’s”, yet in our own AU of sorts.
I still think midnight motorist and by extension FFPS offers some of the most fascinating lore content in the series. Very impressive work and I look forward to seeing more from you! Great work man, you’ve earned my sub.
(Also side note, thank you for crediting me in the description for using my SL footage! It’s highly appreciated)!
Someone send this to fuhnaff and ryetoast
Better yet, someone send it to the horror Homestead.
@@charleswolfe8896 gibi is gonna dunk and smash on this theory so hard. Matpat maybe because he's willing to believe anything
@Trontotario but I want to see if it can stand up to his scrutiny
Great theory. Midnight Motorist truly is confusing lol
FNAF theories in general is like going to court. I was truly confused with the Crying Child's (Dave) survival, and the Spring Bonnie suit.
My personal belief is that the Crying Child didn't survive long for Midnight Motorist, I think it ruins the tragedy of the event.
"The Week Before" plays back the '83 event, people shout and scream noticing the bullies activity.
The imagery of "Curse of Dreadbear" hints of a fallfest in '83, William Afton's car on the back referencing Midnight Motorist makes me believe Charlie died at a Halloween/Fallfest event. (Charlie gets kidnapped at Halloween and her missing gets reported November 1st - Silver Eyes). Which would put Crying Child before Charlie. The dirt pile would still be the Crying Child.
I also believe Michael was the experiment victim, as an effect of the bite. The Crying Child wouldn't see the flowers, pills and the IV drip. (As a reference to the final cutscene, Crying Child was in a void with the plushies.)
Michael did saw that, and in the movie, Mike takes similar looking pills (Loprazolam). Michael hears Phone Guy and sees Fredbear due to his brother's presence, which he draws in the logbook. (In the FNAF 4 map, we see 4 transparent dots, the original four. Unless you could say Fredbear is present on the Plushtrap map, which there are 4 dots plus Plushtrap.)
You brought up good points towards the Mediocre Melodies. I'm still bugged on why the masked children appear on the Happiest Day, so good one.
30:38 okay but why would the idiot who killed his own son while drunk remember that springlocks break when exposed to water?
Ok but it makes Michael protecting Dave from William so sad
He thought he was protecting his brother but Dave is already dead by that point.....
Okay but I really like idea of Dave being that vengeful menace. And the fact that this theory makes every Afton kid directly or indirectly killed by Wiliam: Dave by William himself, Elizabeth because of him creating Baby and telling she's for her and Michael by sending him knowing that those bchs want to scoop him and that Mike looks like him
Very well done and in-depth video! 👏
This is awesome, very well done
This sounds like it actually solved all the pieces. Congrats.
Great theory! Im sure your channel will blow up if you keep making videos like this. Looking forward to the next one :)
Subscribed, hope we can finally solve this game soon
Holy eff. This is an amazing read of the franchise !
Solid theory! Thegamesalmon did a video on the psychology of William Afton and this lines up pretty well with that! Midnight Motorist is my favorite of the theories and this may be my favorite yet!
Narrative satisfaction at last!
Great work dude!
i dont think it entirely adds up but i appreciate that this explores the idea of the split personality in william like we see in vanessa also. one personality purposely obscuring memories from the other. +2
21:11 "Gaslighting the child" I see what you did there.
This was amazingly well put together!
One thing I wonder about though, when you bring up the Bear of Vengeance anime cutscenes, is what's the meaning behind the Japanese lines. Because I'm not sure if people still remember this, but the Japanese voiced lines are NOT the same as the English subtitles, like, at all. They're completely different and are also scrambled I believe, but they still had some connection to some of the visuals, they still mention a conflict between the Bear and the Fox with the Fox antagonizing the Bear, mentions the Bear sitting under the tree, the Fox having a dojo, Mangle being stuck, etc., but they're still completely different from the English lines and tell a completely different story. I still to this day have no idea what to make out of that, but it was clearly intentional and surely must be hiding something.
I just re-read the translation of the Japanese when writing this, and one line from The Fox that stands out is "Actually, to begin with, I planned to make lots of annoying noises outside that one window, but after that, he became an alcoholic. And apparently, it was on my birthday. So naturally, I dragged him out of the trough, and rolled him around in the alpaca droppings for a while. It was so much fun!" Worth noting that this is someone's translation of Japanese lines that were themselves apparently a Google Translation from Scott's original English script to Japanese (so I guess Scott had used Google Translate instead of having a person translate it), so some stuff like pronouns could have gotten messed up or something in the conversions so it's not all fully the literal intended meaning. But those lines in particular sounded eerily similar to a lot of things from your theory here, though not exactly. Could be coincidence but still is interesting. And I don't think anyone has really worked out what the Japanese script is supposed to actually mean.
It's definitely clear you think about this franchise a lot, just like I do. I really appreciate this video. Unconventional takes are valuable, and critical analysis like this is super important to the community, even if I don't agree with all your reasoning.
I think you should consider speaking a little more quickly, like you're having a conversation. Your delivery is most confident at the end of each sentence, which is very normal when you're getting confident in front of a microphone.
You might also consider turning individual moments in this video into shorts.
Subbed, I look forward to your future work. ❤
I read your comment as I’m watching the start of the video. Try listening to the video at playback speed of x1.5. It actually doesn’t sound bad
@Thunder17_- I'm only offering my opinion on that aspect of the video for their sake. I actually like the speed at which they speak but when I did a brief stint at a college radio station, the advice they gave was to focus on the speed of your delivery and you'll be too preoccupied to be nervous. It's good for practice but I had mixed results on the job, maybe it'll help this guy.
@@blanktester I understand and it’s a great thing to try to give advice that can potentially help a new and upcoming speaker. I was simply just stating that for some reason at 1.5x speed it actually almost sounds like he is talking at a regular speed
@Thunder17_- Yeah true enough!
yeah it sounds like hes speakign from the back of his mouth, with his throat, its very raspy
Well done. First video and pretty good theory.
I've been in the community for a decade now and this video blows my mind.
This perspective makes sense on a lot of angles and it's honestly just satisfying.
Great job on the video!
This video is crazy.. im actually taken back.. wow this is so well done! :>
It’s a solid theory which can be disproven by different interpretations of course.
I’m pretty sure the box is supposed to reference ShatterVictim, the theory that Bite Victim’s memories are shattered across Freddy Fazbears. ShatterVictim gives us the meaning for “four games one story” “in the FNaF 4 minigame why would the tiny toy chica be missing her beak?”
However no one at all solved what Scott was trying to tell us. He said himself at that time, before ShatterVictim was even considered.
What’s in the box is supposed to relate with this theory. “What’s in the box are the pieces put together” this is Scott’s early attempt to hint us towards ShatterVictim but no one even understood it and so the story stays unsolved and Scott must use his new games to guide us to the right direction.
“Would the community accept it that way?”
Would the community accept that what’s in the box is currently undecided.
FNaF world: “the pieces are in place for you” “I will put you back together”
Sister location: “I put her back together” “I’m broken, I can’t be fixed” “there’s a little of me in every body”
FNaF 6: this one involves MoltenMCI which Scott would also need to clarify alongside ShatterVictim. Having all the Fazbear memorabilia burnt in Fazbear frights would force the crying child to manifest the remaining parts of him left, Molten Freddy, the MCI. “One big happy family” “together again”
What’s in the box is probably a watch or a toy but it was unimportant enough for Scott to deem undecided, probably because ShatterVictim finally exists as a theory thanks to Cuben Fancy
Damn bro i love these small channels that come from nowhere
Very good theory!! I have just 2 problems: A thing I find interesting in a story is to know the reason of evil.Not to approve them but to understand and as such Afton started experimenting on children since 1883 and maybe before... lacks reasons ( did he already understood remnant?). Then why killing his son? We are after the bite of 83, he told him "I will put you back together", he drinks and then decided "time to kill Dave"? Then no issue to experiment on dave but he tries to avoid Elizabeth from Baby? Otherwise, the theory stands.
This is the best theory I think I've ever heard for FNAF, and this video really didn't feel like it was almost 40 minutes. Please keep making content like this, this is phenomenal
I still believe Mike is who we play as during the FNAF 4 gameplay, because in the Survival Logbook, Mike (who writes with a red pen) draws a PERFECTLY ACCURATE Nightmare Fredbear. The only way he can do that is if he's seen it himself. However, I also believe William put both his sons through the experiments.
Well, in this theory Mike does somehow dream the FNAF4 sequences himself, so he DOES see that in his dream, which lines up with the phone call Easter Egg and the direct parallels between FNAF4's and FNAF1's gameplays and stuff, not to mention the prompt where he drew the picture was about dreams. So in this he saw Nightmare Fredbear while dreaming on the job in FNAF1. Now, WHY he would dream of the experiments his younger brother actually faced like that, I don't know.
Someone get fuhnaff or ryetoast in here, i was super impressed halfway through before realizing it doesnt even have 1k views yet and you have 34 (now 35!) subs
man this is actually a satisfying conclusion that fits the pieces nicely
Wow great theory dude!
Hey that's very intersting now that I got to the end
Love this theory, makes much more sense for him to be the important one among the children William has killed
However, that makes me think, if the five firsts spirits really moved on, then who's in the funtimes and molten freddy?
I'm very excited to see what your future videos will look like
This has to be one of the best videos I watched, the plot twists, the storytelling, and the theory being batshit crazy but still plausible has to be the peak of content creation
this is probably the best and my favorite theory about midnight motorist ever. great job, really!
This is such a good video I feel like it’s going to blow up
i like this a lot, great job
i know this is your first video, but this is genuinely huge and you deserve so much recognition for figuring this out. i hope this theory becomes more widespread in the community because its just pure genius!! genuinely like well done omg im like at a loss for words.
Solid theory, loved it!
wonderful video loved it
Showing support with a like and sub. Haven't watched the full video but am currently watching your summery, HUGELY appreciate and LOVE your animations of the events. Your work has been worth all it's effort I was only gonna watch like 2 minutes and keep doing what I was doing but I FELL into this video. I will be coming back to watch more of your stuff! Way better than my work.
Actually been periodically stopping writing this to watch this. Excited for what you do next
Also I sent fanart in the comments but the comment might've been blocked cuz of the link
I have a mini theory, what if his alcoholism is the reason for the DCI. I mean think about it, the bodies were never hidden and he seemed pretty careless where he put them.
Goddd this theory is so good!!
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this NEEDS more views
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this NEEDS more likes
Agreed. This needs to go viral
Ah! So, this is the BlackoutMM theory I'd read about before (if memory serves correctly, it was on the FNAF Theories wiki).
While I'm not really sold on it, this was a very interesting and different take on this mysterious minigame. Keep up the good work. 👍
youre absolutely insane this makes so much sense wtf
bro came out of nowhere and released a banger
Alrighty chills.
Imo, you are taking a massive leap. It is almost like changing our already understanding of the lore.
That's the point. Our current understanding of lore may be the one incorrect in here.
The first bit made a lot of sense until he brought up Afton killing Crying Child imo. That's what didn't make sense to me.
@@chararaltacc But that can be applied to any part of the lore. FuhNaff claimed that the CC died twice (once in a vision and then for real) by the hands of Funtime Freddy disguised as Fredbear via an illusion and then somehow came back as a robot, despite the fact that FF and FB both have different toe counts + it wouldn't really make that much sense for the footprints to be from the illusion. While yes, it would shake up our understanding of the lore, but it's such a far stretch that it easily falls apart when analyzed.
This is it bro, can’t wait to see you on the dawko level 🔥🔥
Oh! It’s happening right now wake up dude 😂😂🎉
THIS ACTUALLY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!
Ngl you got some solid points here, especially regarding UCN.
i need to see other big theorists talk about yours. Amazing theory!!!!
It's always been the "Missing Children Incident". In other versions of the story (books, movies) Afton kidnaps children. The bodies where never found. There are multiple white dots... The Funtimes are built to distract parents and capture children once they are isolated. I don't think Afton is a slasher killer; I think he is a mad scientist, who's experiments always end in dead children. I think that's the biggest "mistake" the FNAF community has made; assuming that "stuffing" is literal, when, I think, "stuffing" is an over-the-top rumor that is outrageous on purpose... Because the truth lies right under everyone's feet; the remnant, the agony that can get "harvested" is the special sauce that brings the animatronics to "life" and later is what fuels the VR/AR technology that's too advanced to exist (notice the crying children noises when in VR/AR).
The sick truth is Fazbear realized what Afton Robotics was doing and sub-contracted with them; Fazbear the company funded Afton's fear experiments (how did he get the money to build the bunker/underground warehouse/ experiment rooms?). This is why Fazbear scans old circuit boards and locks the Glamrocks in their 'rooms' (cages) after hours. FNAF's "secret story" is corporate greed funding madness and murder.
Hey that's quite interesting
Damn, great video, hope to see more
such a well-made video !!! very excited to see your videos in the future 🥳
THIS IS AMAZIIING
This video is hands down the best theory made after 10 years. Floored
William being blackout drunk and killing dave himself actually makes so much sense. I already thought he was the one who finished him off after the bite/hospital stint but the drunk bit also tracks
The emphasis on chica's highschool directly connecting to the murder victims is definitely nice to see! Not really sure about some of the other conclusions tho. Great first video!
2:44 That is the way to do it. We have no Idea where MM fits into the events (before or after)
Very cool theory
22:41 Manipulated into believing these places were their own homes...Like Michael having the same lamp in his living room as in the Fnaf 4 hallways?
This theory is amazing!
Holy crap I never thought of chica n her messenger bag being the graveyard hill.
I kept being skeptical and then being presented with strong evidence. I'm not fully convinced on the first listen through but I sure am convinced to subscribe!
damn this is the hardest theory i've ever heard.
this is the best theory ive heard in years
Very good video sir
This needs more views
Bro was cooking
You actually convinced me here. This is crazy, especially considering its your first video. INCREDIBLE WORKKKK
Depending on how much a person drinks, if that affects sleep that much as well, it can also mean that a person can dream when awake