Once again crap QC! Just found another short spring on another WC BCG on the last A2 20" I did that was also acting bizarre on ejection! So that's three of them! Will have that video up soon!
Awesome!!! After all the discussion last weekend I checked all my LGS ejector springs, S&W mixed in with Aero Precision lower parts kits, some had 25 coils, some 26 and only 1 had 27 lol. I dug my Sprincos out of the dumpster and they all had 27 coils. Still not using them. All my Colts were 27. Looks like based on time you bought the BCGs that Wilson have been sending out of specs parts for over a year.
Yes, more like a year and a half that I know of. I just found another bad WC on the last A2 20" I just completed. 25 coils at .900" instead of the correct 27 coils at .926". All of the Sprinco's I had came in the same at .936" so about .010" over. I'm sure after X amount of rounds they will be right at MilSpec .926". Being .010" over there were no binding issues on the WC's with the plungers not being able to go flush with the bolt face.
USMC ret. 0369 , 94-2014 ... this looks like an exact copy of what i carried.. wow.. to best of my memory.. this is identical.. wow .. if not..really close to it!
Thanks! I know a lot of the rank and file NAVY also used this version M4A1 before all of the SOPMOD conversions started to arrive. Navy also wanted to keep full auto instead of burst on the M16A2 and these were designated the M16A3. The SEABEES were issued quite a few M16A3's from what I understand. I was on shipboard security teams called SAT/BAT while onboard the USS Tripoli LPH10 during the Gulf War and we were still qualifying with the M14, 1911 and shotguns into the mid 90's! Lol! Our Master at Arms guys had the good stuff! The SAT/BAT teams were primarily issued pistol and shotgun for internal security and the M14's for surface, perimeter or pier threats. Thanks for watching and commenting Marine!
Thanks Pratical! Simple fix that should not have had to happen! I just found another bad WC on my last A2 20" build. Not quite as bad at 25 coils instead of the correct 27 but still out of spec! That's three in total all purchased over the last year and half so this is not a one off! Done with WC!
@@peteregger7928 It can happen with any manufacturer. I just attended SOTAR class and my BCM Bcg had an extreme leak in the gas key. My SOLGW bcg had a small leak in gas key. Replaced the BCM key and they did not use any sealant on the carrier key. My Danial Defense barrel would not rotate on 1.4646 GO gauge. Needs to go back. I will probably have videos on this. My Colt barrel was good to go.
@@PracticalAccuracy True! QC is becoming a real problem even with the higher end stuff. Most of BCM's claim to fame supposedly is their BCG QC! Well, maybe not! Thanks Practical!
Good job, Pete. I was surprised that's what it turned out to be...but that IS what it looked like. Glad you fixed it so easily, unfortunate that you _had to._ And you kept the H2 buffer, correct? That has always worked best for me in carbine length gas systems.
I kept the H2 installed as well. I think between the O-ring delete on the extractor, correct ejector spring and the H2 it's solid now! I also noticed the rim of the brass is no longer being chewed on. Comes out the same way it went in! Less recoil and feels smoother with the H2. Thanks Gary!
My father has 2 full wilson combat rifles. One SBR in 300 blackout and one of the 18 inch "urban sniper" I'll have to check his BCGs to see if they have the 24 coils. Kind of BS for them to have the wrong springs in such expensive rifles.
I have a few older WC BCG's that have been working fine. It's just been these last three purchased at different times over the last year and a half for me. I would say if your fathers are working OK you're probably good/got lucky. I also had some issues with my WC 308 barrels when I built a couple of LR308's. The gas ports were full of debris and the inside holes were not cleanly drilled. I had to use a cleaning rod back and forth to break the left overs off. 308 barrels were purchased about six months apart. Maybe just my own personal experience (bad luck) but more recently QC in the firearms industry is not what it use to be and paying more is no longer a guarantee. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Looks Like She’s Ejecting At a Perfect 3:30 Pete 27 Coils is The Key For Sure 😀😊😀👍🏼 Can’t Wait Too See The Iron Sight Soda Bottle Challenge After Sight In At 100 Yards 😀 Did I Say I Love That Rifle Pete 😇
Thanks Chris! It feels smooth too! A lot less snappy and punchy compared to my other carbines. Just found a third jacked up Wilson Combat ejection spring in my last A2 20" build that was ejecting but acting much like this M4A1 Retro was. I'll get that video posted up tomorrow morning. That's three WC's in a row purchased over the last year and a half that were "Out of Spec"! Replaced the A2 spring while cleaning the M4A1today so the A2 will be going back out soon for more testing!
Glad to see that issue put to bed. I know you are relieved!
Once again crap QC! Just found another short spring on another WC BCG on the last A2 20" I did that was also acting bizarre on ejection! So that's three of them! Will have that video up soon!
Sweet!!
Thanks Hybrid! Another departure off the struggle bus! Lol!
Glad to see this build get sorted out.
Thanks Shawn! Off the struggle bus for now! Starting a new build here very soon so I'm sure at some point I'll be going for another ride! Lol!
Now we're talking! Hallelujah!
Thanks! It's working great now!
3:30 - 4:00 - perfect. Awesome field testing, we all appreciate the lesson.
Thank you Malcolm! The eagle has landed! I repeat. The eagle has landed! Lol!
Awesome!!! After all the discussion last weekend I checked all my LGS ejector springs, S&W mixed in with Aero Precision lower parts kits, some had 25 coils, some 26 and only 1 had 27 lol. I dug my Sprincos out of the dumpster and they all had 27 coils. Still not using them. All my Colts were 27. Looks like based on time you bought the BCGs that Wilson have been sending out of specs parts for over a year.
Yes, more like a year and a half that I know of. I just found another bad WC on the last A2 20" I just completed. 25 coils at .900" instead of the correct 27 coils at .926". All of the Sprinco's I had came in the same at .936" so about .010" over. I'm sure after X amount of rounds they will be right at MilSpec .926". Being .010" over there were no binding issues on the WC's with the plungers not being able to go flush with the bolt face.
@@peteregger7928 Im sure the sprincos will do you just fine,
@@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8 So long as I don't get them wet after watching your corrosion test video!
USMC ret. 0369 , 94-2014 ... this looks like an exact copy of what i carried.. wow.. to best of my memory.. this is identical.. wow .. if not..really close to it!
Thanks! I know a lot of the rank and file NAVY also used this version M4A1 before all of the SOPMOD conversions started to arrive. Navy also wanted to keep full auto instead of burst on the M16A2 and these were designated the M16A3. The SEABEES were issued quite a few M16A3's from what I understand. I was on shipboard security teams called SAT/BAT while onboard the USS Tripoli LPH10 during the Gulf War and we were still qualifying with the M14, 1911 and shotguns into the mid 90's! Lol! Our Master at Arms guys had the good stuff! The SAT/BAT teams were primarily issued pistol and shotgun for internal security and the M14's for surface, perimeter or pier threats. Thanks for watching and commenting Marine!
Looks good. Glad you solved it.
Thanks Pratical! Simple fix that should not have had to happen! I just found another bad WC on my last A2 20" build. Not quite as bad at 25 coils instead of the correct 27 but still out of spec! That's three in total all purchased over the last year and half so this is not a one off! Done with WC!
@@peteregger7928 It can happen with any manufacturer. I just attended SOTAR class and my BCM Bcg had an extreme leak in the gas key. My SOLGW bcg had a small leak in gas key. Replaced the BCM key and they did not use any sealant on the carrier key. My Danial Defense barrel would not rotate on 1.4646 GO gauge. Needs to go back. I will probably have videos on this. My Colt barrel was good to go.
@@PracticalAccuracy True! QC is becoming a real problem even with the higher end stuff. Most of BCM's claim to fame supposedly is their BCG QC! Well, maybe not! Thanks Practical!
@@peteregger7928 They also used Rocksett on the carrier key screws.
@@PracticalAccuracy Unless you're a Navy SEAL then Rocksett could be problematic. My understanding is that it's water soluble!
Good job, Pete.
I was surprised that's what it turned out to be...but that IS what it looked like. Glad you fixed it so easily, unfortunate that you _had to._
And you kept the H2 buffer, correct? That has always worked best for me in carbine length gas systems.
I kept the H2 installed as well. I think between the O-ring delete on the extractor, correct ejector spring and the H2 it's solid now! I also noticed the rim of the brass is no longer being chewed on. Comes out the same way it went in! Less recoil and feels smoother with the H2. Thanks Gary!
@@peteregger7928 Winner! Enjoy the rifle.
Nice work!
Thanks again Moregrip! It's running well now!
Now put a five gallon bucket out and see if your spent brass will land in it.
I've raised the bar to coffee cup! Lol!
@@peteregger7928 Now if they would just place them back in their factory box....lol. Great work Pete.
@@HaventHeard307 Thanks TurningGuns! It rarely goes a 100% anymore!
@@peteregger7928 It actually might be boring if it all did go 100%, our OCD would be homeless. LOL
@@HaventHeard307 Fact! Lol!
Variable cartridge loads
Ha! Ha! Not anymore! Lol!
My father has 2 full wilson combat rifles. One SBR in 300 blackout and one of the 18 inch "urban sniper"
I'll have to check his BCGs to see if they have the 24 coils.
Kind of BS for them to have the wrong springs in such expensive rifles.
I have a few older WC BCG's that have been working fine. It's just been these last three purchased at different times over the last year and a half for me. I would say if your fathers are working OK you're probably good/got lucky. I also had some issues with my WC 308 barrels when I built a couple of LR308's. The gas ports were full of debris and the inside holes were not cleanly drilled. I had to use a cleaning rod back and forth to break the left overs off. 308 barrels were purchased about six months apart. Maybe just my own personal experience (bad luck) but more recently QC in the firearms industry is not what it use to be and paying more is no longer a guarantee. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Looks Like She’s Ejecting At a Perfect 3:30 Pete 27 Coils is The Key For Sure 😀😊😀👍🏼 Can’t Wait Too See The Iron Sight Soda Bottle Challenge After Sight In At 100 Yards 😀 Did I Say I Love That Rifle Pete 😇
Thanks Chris! It feels smooth too! A lot less snappy and punchy compared to my other carbines. Just found a third jacked up Wilson Combat ejection spring in my last A2 20" build that was ejecting but acting much like this M4A1 Retro was. I'll get that video posted up tomorrow morning. That's three WC's in a row purchased over the last year and a half that were "Out of Spec"! Replaced the A2 spring while cleaning the M4A1today so the A2 will be going back out soon for more testing!
@@peteregger7928 That’s Awesome Can’t Wait too See Them Both 😀👍🏼
Well done, Professor Pete!
Bill Wilson owes you a T-shirt.
Ha! Ha! He's probably hired a hit squad! Lol!
SHAME on that Wilson garbage!
I found another one on another recent A2 build for a total of three. I'll have that video up tomorrow! 3 strikes and your'e out Wilson Combat!