Mesa Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Vs 2x12 Road King Cabinets!

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2011
  • Mesa/Boogie offers a numer of 2x12 cabinets to fit different tonal needs. In this video we do an A/B comparison of the 2x12 Rectifier and the 2x12 Road King. The Rectifier is a closed back cabinet cabinet with two Celestion Vintage 30 speakers. The Road King has a Vintage 30 and a Celestion C90. The Vintage 30 half is completely sealed whereas the C90 half is open back.
    These cabinets have completely different sounds! We used a Royer R-121 several feet back from the cabinet, pointed directly at the center of each cabinet (it looks off to one side due to the camera angle).
    Hopefully this video helps you decide which speaker cabinet will be best for you. For more information, please visit our website at:
    www.haggertysmusic.com/shop/me...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 86

  • @blue789x2
    @blue789x2 2 роки тому +3

    I saw your review and I bought a Road King 12*2 cabinet in 2014 and still use it with great care.
    This year is 2022.
    Thank you very much.

  • @MrKnisterable
    @MrKnisterable 9 років тому +14

    Clean - Road King
    Crunch and Channel 3 - Rectifier

  • @MegaDavidosky
    @MegaDavidosky 12 років тому +1

    Your comparisons are always great and useful. Thumbs up for this guy!

  • @roymartin500
    @roymartin500 9 років тому +3

    I own the rectifier, I bought it with my 2004 Mrsa Single Rectifier Solo 50 watt head instead of buying a 4x12 of lesser quality because it was the best sounding of the group. They're oversised 2x12s and well worth the $600 they were selling for new. Thank for posting this video.

  • @TH-gu4wj
    @TH-gu4wj 3 роки тому +1

    It felt more relaxing to listen to the rectifier cab for me. I feel like having both at the same time would be great.

  • @IlIlIlIlIllIllII
    @IlIlIlIlIllIllII 11 років тому +4

    I honestly think the Rectifier cab just sounds so much better. The Road King just sounds hollow, which while it works pretty well for cleans, it just sounds bad for distorted tones.

  • @romanreichel4807
    @romanreichel4807 8 років тому +2

    Very Very good video! I will show this to my students to make them aware of cabinet choice

  • @Kalenorr
    @Kalenorr 13 років тому +2

    I own the Road King cab and I find it's less harsh and maintains more clarity at higher volumes due to it's more articulate mid range. I also can add gain and not have to worry about things getting too muddy. But if you like that scooped tone with high end sizzle the Rectifier 2x12 cab is more suitable.

  • @123lowp
    @123lowp 11 років тому

    awesome demo. They both sound great.

  • @dcjcanuck
    @dcjcanuck 11 років тому

    Great comparison. Road King has much more shimmer and less compression on the clean channel, but the rectifier cab works so great for the dirty tones. Great playing from Dream Theater Metropolis!

  • @trniquet
    @trniquet 13 років тому

    I really enjoyed this comparison. Definitely confirms my dislike for open back designs. I've been using a Bogner closed-back 2x12 loaded with C90's along with a Recto 2x12 and the results have been spectacular! The two speakers work super well together.

  • @joanpepin1833
    @joanpepin1833 10 років тому +8

    Rectifier FTW.

  • @smaschmann
    @smaschmann 12 років тому

    You have the best demos and playing out there. Love your version of Macca's Taxman solo... sweet!!!
    I have a Mesa F50 combo. I love it, but the gain channel through the open back combo is a tad unfocused. I am interested in the RK 212. Do you think that, with my combo, it still might be too heavy on the open back sound? Any input would be welcome. Thanks!

  • @BMitchell
    @BMitchell 10 років тому +7

    I think I like the road king a bit better. Its a more natural sound to my ears not as buzzy

  • @zillathegorilla
    @zillathegorilla 13 років тому

    hey Don,
    Another outstanding video! great work. I was wondering if you could tell me what software package you use to put your videos together?
    Thanks

  • @chainmailstud
    @chainmailstud 9 років тому

    Great review!

  • @keaulana1
    @keaulana1 12 років тому

    @haggertysmusic what side of the mesa cab you were using? The c 90 or the vintage 30?

  • @22dgod
    @22dgod 13 років тому

    @haggertysmusic Hey, would you say the recto 2x12 is more present in the mids than the 4x12? it seems to be that way in this vid, but i'm thinking that could be the mark V at work...
    I'm just curious because i'm wanting to pair it with a Dual Rectifier(2010)

  • @vileguile4
    @vileguile4 13 років тому

    Great playing :)

  • @andreydyumaev5131
    @andreydyumaev5131 10 років тому +1

    C90/V30 C90 V30 (personal experience, own both, both UK made)
    Btw, did you guys record with the cabs to the wall? Open back should stand well clear of any walls

  • @haggertysmusic
    @haggertysmusic  13 років тому +1

    @22dgod It depends on which 4x12 you're comparing it to. The Stiletto 4x12 is the most present in the mids with the smoothest highs. The 2x12 leans a bit more towards the 4x12 Rectifier which has some scooped mids and brighter highs.

    • @LSlava
      @LSlava 4 роки тому

      Hi! Great reviews. What cab do you recommend more - traditional 4x12 slant or straight or maybe road king?

  • @ZephyrRandD
    @ZephyrRandD 13 років тому

    Great work guys! How about a 2x12 recto vs the PRS deep 2x12????

  • @NR2112
    @NR2112 13 років тому

    Rectifier sounds more clear, and snappy in this video. Though, the lead sounds on the RK cab sounds really juicy!

  • @nosanoy
    @nosanoy 11 років тому

    That orange mesa cab is a sexy beast!

  • @haggertysmusic
    @haggertysmusic  13 років тому +1

    To everyone... I apologize for the confusion. This is the third time we uploaded the video, and this time it is RIGHT!!! The first time didn't have labels on the screen for the cabs, and the second time, we had the cabs listed wrong. SORRY! The orange cab is the 2x12 Rectifier and the black one is the 2x12 Road King. This one's up to stay!

  • @dennim0707
    @dennim0707 12 років тому

    this is great work, thanks :)

  • @keaulana1
    @keaulana1 12 років тому

    @AlvisLiquid it has the same speaker, but we dont know if he was using the vintage 30 or the c 90

  • @freddiebishop2553
    @freddiebishop2553 10 років тому +4

    Road King for sure.

    • @MatteoFenzi
      @MatteoFenzi 10 років тому +2

      Rectifier with Suhr! :-)

  • @ZephyrRandD
    @ZephyrRandD 13 років тому

    I've have another idea for you. How about the new PRS deep 2x12 against a Recto 2x12?

  • @keaulana1
    @keaulana1 12 років тому

    Which side of the road king cab was used to film this demo? the open back side or the closed back side?

  • @MusicFillsMyLife
    @MusicFillsMyLife 13 років тому

    I hope you can do Mesa Rectifier 2x12 vs Roadster 2x12!

  • @YashVardhanTanwar
    @YashVardhanTanwar 12 років тому

    Hey Don, Can you please please do an in depth review of the Mesa Road King.... It's one of the best and most versatile amps ever (Please give me an answer
    And can I achieve a Mark IIC+ like tone from a Road King ?????
    Thanks
    Yash

  • @ElMontu
    @ElMontu 13 років тому

    Amazing work guys! How about a Mesa Boogie Rectifier 2x12 Vertical Slant vs the Mesa Boogie Rectifier 2x12 Horizontal Cabs???? Thank you again!

  • @777jordan
    @777jordan 11 років тому

    Hey can you mic the Road King with more of a blend of the speakers rather than a focus on the C90?

  • @emg81emg60
    @emg81emg60 12 років тому

    Hi, i have a M.Boogie Express 5:25 Head. Which m.boogie cab would best complement the head. I know theres a matching cab, but is that cab the best for it? I dont mind getting a different model m.boogie cab for my 5:25, just want to know which one.

  • @jimcamp2423
    @jimcamp2423 3 роки тому

    Road King, kind of produces what I expected of it, the directional bass & mids of the closed back with the ambience of the mids & highs of the open back. That said you're getting the tighter & punchier bass of the closed back, but it's blended with the looser & dispersed bass of the open back. I think this would be better served the way I implemented it as 2 separate cabs. For stage the closed back is going to project directly into the rest of the room and the open back can be used more like a booster cabinet in the rest of the room to fill it ambiently. I accidentally stumbled across the hybrid dual cab system modding an open back combo to be used as a combo while plugging out & into a closed back cabinet. Stacked on top of each other and the bottom rumbles bass & mids like a closed back would, while the upper open back is mids & highs, with the bass going out the back. Has it's own unique sound. With either you're at the mercy of how well matched the open back & closed back speakers are implemented. Mine are no name brand 60W speakers in each open & closed back. The combo is speced as 60W max, don't know if that's 4/8/16 Ohm impedance though for max output. The closed back is an 8 Ohm speaker for 60W max. I figure the combo's speaker is 60W @ 4 Ohms, so it's 30W @ 8 Ohm and 15W @ 16 Ohm. That probably approximates +/- the Road King's pairing of a Vintage 30W for the closed back side with a C90 for the open back side ?

  • @hattersgonnahat4928
    @hattersgonnahat4928 10 років тому +2

    By comparison I'm not crazy about the sizzly high end of the Rectifier. The Road King really sounds like it can breathe, I'm taken aback by how much I prefer the it. Which is a real shame because I already own the Rectifier. I wonder if anyone wants to trade.
    I will say though that I like the Rectifier 2x12 more than a lot of closed back cabs, including Orange.

  • @danhall716
    @danhall716 8 років тому +1

    Rectifier for Ch. 3, Road King for Ch. 1, either for Ch 2. Overall better sound is the rectifier because it did cleans better than the Road King did high-gain.

  • @SuperGuitarMark
    @SuperGuitarMark 12 років тому

    DREAM THEATER! :D

  • @ATreeForFive
    @ATreeForFive 11 років тому

    Can Mesa cabinets (2X12) match a bluesy head (Ibanez TSA15H) ?

  • @antuni
    @antuni 9 років тому +3

    Road King for clean
    Rectumfire for crunch

  • @WDMetalman
    @WDMetalman 8 років тому +15

    Who cares? Dude seriously busted out Dream Theater riffs.

  • @RSNitsua
    @RSNitsua 11 років тому

    Was that a Dream Theater riff at the end? Pretty cool cabs too.

  • @lhzx
    @lhzx 8 років тому +1

    Key note: if you mic closer to v30 rather than c90 of the roadking cab it would sound closer to the rectifier cab. I assume this dude is micing c90 more as it sounds dark in crunch. Nice playing and good review though.

  • @ImuhMusician
    @ImuhMusician 11 років тому

    World of difference! Rectifier sounds WAY better. More clear highs and less "muffled". I am a trebley guy though haha

  • @haggertysmusic
    @haggertysmusic  12 років тому

    Sisters by Steve Vai. Thanks for watching.

  • @willcobbsail
    @willcobbsail 13 років тому

    I think I like the orange one a bit more overall :)

  • @guitarmove
    @guitarmove 13 років тому

    Recto have 2x16 Ohm and RK 2x8 Ohm speaker.How did you use impedance on cabs and amp?I suppose rect. cab.8 Ohm->8 Ohm amp and RK 2 cables 2x8 Ohm.....If RK goes 4->4 Ohm its slight difrent sound and feel IMO.Btw I have RK 2x12...great cab!

  • @flawl3sslogic
    @flawl3sslogic 12 років тому

    The road king sounds tinny when you directly compare. But I think it would sound better in a mix and cut through a crap load more.

  • @EJOpdahl
    @EJOpdahl 12 років тому

    Hey thank you for all your wonderful videos!
    Beats mesa's vids...
    I think a lot of us are hoping you could do a roadster head review in the future!

  • @usalespaul59
    @usalespaul59 12 років тому

    hey don, even if you don't announce before each video that "this is don here", we already know it's you ;))

  • @usalespaul59
    @usalespaul59 12 років тому

    great demos though ;)

  • @Shornetastic
    @Shornetastic 12 років тому

    Yes. Mesa Boogie ecstacy.

  • @GuitarRazze
    @GuitarRazze 13 років тому

    you uploaded the same video the 3rd time? o.O or is it my youtube subscription box screwing with me

  • @distortionclubla
    @distortionclubla Рік тому

    I feel like dual mics on both speakers simultaneously - for both cabs - wudda been better … but thx was helpful as is also

  • @nologo24
    @nologo24 9 років тому

    Roadking dark rock sound !!and Recti cab brighter than .....

  • @RadioJack
    @RadioJack 11 років тому +1

    Road King ftw.

  • @ZephyrRandD
    @ZephyrRandD 13 років тому

    P.S. Keep use the Mark V! And maybe even a try a 4x10.

  • @feo130
    @feo130 12 років тому

    V30 Rectifier cab for me!

  • @tjlongarms
    @tjlongarms 12 років тому

    i have to give the prize to the recto cab. though id like to see what sounds better if we arent using a mesa head, the result may be different. but for mesas, id stick to the recto cab.

  • @pentagonoenllamas
    @pentagonoenllamas 12 років тому

    Recto is more balanced, but the Roadking should cut through better with the extra mids.

  • @ruhrklaenge
    @ruhrklaenge 8 років тому

    Without a doubt, the Roadking Cab will sit better in the mix... you don't get the internal low freq reflections that the recto cab has because of the Roadking Cab's open back. Thus, the mids are more emphasized which is generally a better option for a guitar signal, especially in a live setting. Yet, I know that most guitar players are too stupid to differentiate between "it sounds good when I play alone" and "it still cuts through when I'm playing in my band".

    • @eskuz
      @eskuz 7 років тому

      Aha. Do you know EQ ? Just try to sound the best alone, then EQ in the mix.

    • @ruhrklaenge
      @ruhrklaenge 7 років тому

      My experience is that mostly those sounds that sound shitty by themselves cut through in the mix... take for example that Mark Tremonti sound. Sounds great when you're alone in the rehearsal room. But it takes a lot of work for the foh-engineer to make it shine in a transparent way... too much distortion, too much bass, not enough mids. Might work in the studio but definitely not live.

  • @TheAerovons
    @TheAerovons 11 років тому

    Road King does have a hollow sound, but to me the Rectifier, which I wanted to like, sounds fizzy and way too thin.

  • @rlkguitar
    @rlkguitar 8 років тому

    clean like better recto bigger range more balanced and no jumping out agressive highs. distortion for me the road better becouse the tone alot darker,:)

  • @ZephyrRandD
    @ZephyrRandD 13 років тому

    P.S. With the Mark V of course. Lol!

  • @xthexadvantagex
    @xthexadvantagex 7 років тому

    What's the clean lick?

    • @Borlos.
      @Borlos. 6 років тому

      Nathan Brown Steve Vai - Sisters

  • @anonymoususer3496
    @anonymoususer3496 3 роки тому

    Rectifier clear n crisp.. Roadking boomy n muddy

  • @kevincombs3544
    @kevincombs3544 10 років тому

    I want a mesa 2x12 that is that same color.

  • @pdbordelon
    @pdbordelon 6 років тому

    Wow they both have strengths and relative weaknesses with no clear winner....

  • @TheSublimeIbanez
    @TheSublimeIbanez 12 років тому

    0:47 oh hell naw

  • @dariodurso7388
    @dariodurso7388 4 роки тому

    Mesa è sicuramente migliore!

  • @JohnDoe-uz1ct
    @JohnDoe-uz1ct 8 років тому +2

    Had the Road King.. sucked IMHO.. never buying into it ever again, go with the Rectifier, much cleaner tones unless you're fucking gay lame weed high..

  • @JoshuaCarterliberty
    @JoshuaCarterliberty 10 років тому

    black cab. dude's playing is a bit weak. :)

  • @EJOpdahl
    @EJOpdahl 13 років тому

    so which one is better? It seems like in the clean the rec cab was warmer and in the distortion it was brighter... wish i could try this combination in person