Jotaro Kujo Vs. Son Goku (Equalized Stats)

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  • @Freddy_fazballs420
    @Freddy_fazballs420 11 місяців тому +371

    Remember, talking is a free action.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +1

      This will blow up,I have a feeling in my balls…

    • @WeskerEnthusiast
      @WeskerEnthusiast 11 місяців тому +4

      This needs a pin

    • @abnormaltoast18
      @abnormaltoast18 11 місяців тому +1

      Talk is also cheap🤷🏾‍♂️ (not a DBZ fan)

    • @raidenpainn1561
      @raidenpainn1561 11 місяців тому +1

      Lies because talking requires internet

    • @Freddy_fazballs420
      @Freddy_fazballs420 11 місяців тому +4

      @@raidenpainn1561 But Jotaro IS the the internet.

  • @ceroders5668
    @ceroders5668 11 місяців тому +365

    I like to think that in this fight, josuke is waiting on the sidelines in case someone got seriously wounded

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag 11 місяців тому +45

      And Koichi is standing next to him ready to act 3 freeze him if Goku (who doesn't know Josuke) makes a hair pun.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +2

      Lol

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 11 місяців тому +10

      Or Krillin is waiting with a bag of Senzu beans (which, if you're not familiar with them, are magical beans that heal all injuries and also revitalize your energy).

    • @nikoanimations2289
      @nikoanimations2289 11 місяців тому +2

      And Giorno

    • @dydy974fr
      @dydy974fr 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@nikoanimations2289don't need 2 healers +koichi and jotaro are not familiar with giorno

  • @RedShadowAMV
    @RedShadowAMV 11 місяців тому +123

    "We equalised the stats but goku is just that guy"

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому +43

      Do you realize that Goku is tactical genius and master of martial arts which tons of technique? That guy can destroy so many people on equal terms

    • @imperatordrakon6488
      @imperatordrakon6488 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@krysert4552which martial arts

    • @NotCharles6
      @NotCharles6 11 місяців тому +19

      @@imperatordrakon6488 Goku is actually well versed in many different forms of martial arts, including karate from Grandpa Gohan, Turtle School from Master Roshi, Demon School from Kami/Piccolo, and generally experience from fighting his entire life.

    • @kristopherdorsey8561
      @kristopherdorsey8561 11 місяців тому +16

      @@NotCharles6 not to mention at the beginning of z he was regarded as the best martial artist on the planet which is a huge deal in a world where alot of people practice martial arts for a living.

    • @captainb.mccrea5480
      @captainb.mccrea5480 11 місяців тому +1

      Jotaro with time stop and one-shot gut check: 🍷🗿

  • @bigpoggers6507
    @bigpoggers6507 11 місяців тому +26

    Goku vs. Jotaro is funny as hell to think about, considering he's just fucking been like "nah fuck you, I ain't losing to no timeskip" when fighting Hit

    • @captainb.mccrea5480
      @captainb.mccrea5480 11 місяців тому +3

      Jotaro doesn’t use time skip, that’s more like Diavolo

    • @IForgellt
      @IForgellt 11 місяців тому

      @@captainb.mccrea5480hits time skip is just called time skip but it’s more similar to a time stop.

    • @captainb.mccrea5480
      @captainb.mccrea5480 11 місяців тому +2

      @@IForgellt not rly

    • @projectmessiah
      @projectmessiah 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@IForgelltIt's not really either 100% to be fair

    • @onehitwonders7729
      @onehitwonders7729 11 місяців тому +3

      Goku only beat Time Skip by NEGATING it by POWERING UP. Who ever has the larger power would just win against any hax in DB apparently. But It cant work against Jotaro cause Jotaro doesnt use Ki to skip or stop concept of time unlike Hit who just use ki to go into another Dimension where time is slower or something like that idk, hit power is complicated yet irrelevant in DB

  • @natashi7890
    @natashi7890 11 місяців тому +71

    Wait, aren't the beams from Goku multiple times stronger than Goku himself? That means that if Goku launches a singular beam, it could potentially be fatal. Plus, as shown from the Tien fight, Goku understands if the beam would hit or not showing that he understands good timing to hit those beams. He could also bend the beams if he must as well.

    • @mexicanhayabusa239
      @mexicanhayabusa239 11 місяців тому +3

      This is true. Yes

    • @PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS
      @PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS 11 місяців тому +9

      reminder that Goku has used just his Kamehameha in genuinely creative and unpredictable ways back in his youth even without flight, now add that with all the techniques he has now (Solar flare, instant transmission, destructo disc, afterimage, Kaioken, Ultra Instinct, Vegeta's Technique™)
      his situational awareness is also insane considering he took Roshi's glasses to block solar flare mid-fight, used the water as cover in Namek for a sneak attack, and uses falling debris as footing for the sliding kamehameha.

    • @mexicanhayabusa239
      @mexicanhayabusa239 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS or even use the kamehameha to slide on keflas attack 😂😂

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 11 місяців тому

      Well yes but Jotaro can just, you know, *STAR PLATINUM: THE WORLD*

    • @mexicanhayabusa239
      @mexicanhayabusa239 11 місяців тому

      @@demi-femme4821 “well yes”.. but if there the both the same power level. goku can move in stop time/or break it as seen through out the entirety of Db is if villain has Hax and goku is near/stronger =Hax being broken

  • @kaneobscurum6016
    @kaneobscurum6016 11 місяців тому +179

    I like the idea of equalizing stats for these types of discussions. It lets you bring out character ingenuity and think of all kinds of hypotheticals. DBZ in general is hard to compare with other series because it very VERY quickly becomes a "My Number's bigger" argument. Which to me is both un-fun and antithetical to what dbz was supposed to be about.
    You point out a lot of the interesting aspects in this. Both fighters are uncannily astute and analytical when it comes to a fight, in completely different ways. Goku is a martial arts genius that took EVERY lesson about how to improve to heart. Jotaro is kinda more like Batman, being crazy observant and aware of his surroundings. We know Goku has the capacity to adapt and figure out a time skip, not unsafe to think he could quickly figure out a time stop. Jotaro could also very easily realize how dangerous Goku is really fast and try and shut the fight down immediately... mand I could think about this for hours, cheers. xD

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 11 місяців тому +2

      “My number is bigger” do you mean which stat is better? Cause yes alot of vs not just DB kinda results in that just bc the speed and ap difference. That’s the reason Kaleb equalized the fight between cell vs kars.

    • @kaneobscurum6016
      @kaneobscurum6016 11 місяців тому +14

      @@Jsipki265 Kind of. I'm also referring to how a lot of these fights wind up becoming "X is capable of city level destruction while Y has done double that, therefore Y wins any and all fights between them." To me that kinda feels pointless a lot of the time because it ignores things like character flaws, personality traits, or demonstrated combat ingenuity that makes the characters so beloved in the first place.

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 11 місяців тому

      @@kaneobscurum6016 I mean it’s things that can’t be ignored especially if doing a regular crossverse battle. Inverse battles like battles inside one setting is sorta like that especially with something like jojo or naruto.

    • @SmartAlec1
      @SmartAlec1 11 місяців тому +8

      @@Jsipki265 Well they can be ignored for a series called "equalized stats" cuz it's boring to just say "this guy is quadrillion times faster than light and his farts anihlate universe"

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 11 місяців тому

      @@SmartAlec1 Never said they were important for an equal stats battle.

  • @DIO-1166
    @DIO-1166 11 місяців тому +13

    Jotaro: So, its the same type of powers as Star platinum.

    • @assamination1407
      @assamination1407 11 місяців тому +1

      Star Platinum: Ultra Instinct

    • @limptoast
      @limptoast 11 місяців тому +1

      Goku proceeds to simply power up.

    • @bobstufz7190
      @bobstufz7190 11 місяців тому

      Star plaitnium:The World Ultra Instinct!

    • @user-wz1bt6fz5w
      @user-wz1bt6fz5w 5 місяців тому +1

      Star Platinum: Over Heaven Ultra Instinct 🗿

  • @tinktink360
    @tinktink360 11 місяців тому +119

    Even with equal stats it’s just very daunting for Jotaro to win either fights. Goku has to much experience on his side, so if Jotaro doesn’t end the fight instantly he loses.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +5

      Yup that’s the whole point from jotaro prospective

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому +28

      And Goku have lot of range coverage so Jotaro needs too hope Goku wont figure out that quickly

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +4

      @@krysert4552yeah but if we are talking about goku personality he would go for a close combat in the beginning, we never see goku in a start of a fight going instantly into a kamehameha or a spirit bomb…

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TLDH1 yeah that checks. I dont recall Goku starting just blasting someone

    • @ryplay9
      @ryplay9 11 місяців тому +5

      Star Platinum would break his fist against Goku’s face😂

  • @doktorweedus7659
    @doktorweedus7659 11 місяців тому +3

    Another good video from a great JoJotuber

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 11 місяців тому +29

    Doesn't pre-SSJ Namek Goku still have the Kaioken x20?
    Isn't... Isn't that a pretty massive bar to cross in equalized stats when it comes to speed? Especially since unlike SSJ, this isn't a form, it's a technique, so trying to argue that it counts towards stats equalized enters some pretty weird territory.
    Of course, in character, Goku isn't going to immediately reach for that option, but I felt like this was forgotten about.
    EDIT: Nevermind, you actually covered it.

    • @Potatoman0852
      @Potatoman0852 11 місяців тому +1

      If it's Goku who just arrived on namek then 3x is his best but if it's post Ginyu fight Goku who was healed in the healing pod then he can do 20x

    • @aliesterus1.023
      @aliesterus1.023 11 місяців тому +9

      @@Potatoman0852 The one who just arrived has 10x iirc.

  • @Flanavision
    @Flanavision 10 місяців тому

    I enjoy your work Kaleb. Thank you

  • @psykodactyle
    @psykodactyle 11 місяців тому +49

    Ok so first of all I think this is really interesting, and while I believe Goku wins most of the time (rip my man Jotaro) I do think there's a couple of variables that would be interesting.
    Outside of time stop and maybe some more scrappy ingenuity using his things on the battlefield to his advantage (something Goku doesn't really do, he's more so good at adapting to an opponent) the biggest advantage Jotaro has is the fact that Goku can't see stands, and won't be able to predict SP's moves.
    Now, stands are a manifestation of the soul/ fighting spirit which arguably could be equated to ki (or genki, which is technically different in Dragon Ball) so you could also argue that Goku could sense SP, which would remove much of Jotaro's advantage again.
    Lastly depending on whether or not Jotaro himself is changed at all, the fight could be over as soon as Goku lands a hit on him
    If he's just regular Jotaro and Goku's brought down to SP stats (or even more so if the other way around), he probably wouldn't survive more than a punch from Goku, he's only a human .
    If he is however buffed, we could potentially see him fighting Goku on two fronts, and drawing attention away from his stand. We know Jotaro is pretty strong for just a human, being able to absolutely beat the shit out of an adult man as just a little child.
    An even more interesting match up would probably be Dio (part 1, part 3 and part 3 with his full vampire powers restored) vs Cell (imperfect, semi and perfect). Or Ultimate Kars vs Cell

    • @Never_at_All
      @Never_at_All 11 місяців тому +7

      Kaleb has already done an Ultimate Kars vs Perfect Cell video btw

    • @buffi753
      @buffi753 11 місяців тому +4

      About that
      in this type of debates we are using verse equalization
      So that means goku can see Star platinum without a problem
      besides even if Goku Is equalized to normal jotaro stats he still beats a Shit out of Jotaro
      Goku is a martial artist (atleast in Dbz lol)
      so we take someone who doesnt know anything about martial arts and compare him to martial artist
      we can see that martial arts are a big deal
      In goku vs caulifla
      even tho caulifla was equal to base goku
      she then turned ssj 2
      She still didnt knock goku imediately out
      even tho goku after a while did go ssj 2
      He still hold his own with probably 100x him just with his martial arts alone
      (goku doesnt learn any martial arts during dbs so he can perform the same no matter if its z goku or dbs goku)
      Only chance for jotaro is his ts
      And If jotaro doesnt finish goku in one blow in ts then jotaro is dead
      have a nice day

    • @buffi753
      @buffi753 11 місяців тому

      @@Gamfluent are you reffering to my comment ?

    • @nobled1113
      @nobled1113 11 місяців тому +2

      I do believe Jotaro would be able to take more than a couple of hits from Goku, because as he's taken on an entire flurry of rushes from The World who has the same strength as star platinum, that only fractured three of Jotaro's bones (and those these move mftl which is crazy).

    • @psykodactyle
      @psykodactyle 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nobled1113 a serious punch from Star Platinum crippled Dio and punched through his gut I don't think Jotaro would survive a punch like that from a professional martial artist like Goku
      Also the only fan translation I can find that says Star Platinum is faster than light is one full of shoddy translations, the one I read which seemed to be better translated heavily implied that its ftl movement is not a separate thing but how time stop works, which also matches how we generally think space time works, the faster you move the less you experience time, so that moving at the speed of light would cause time to freeze from your perspective.
      If people are using an actually good translation to claim that it can, then maybe it has more merit, but I've yet to see that.
      (I also don't understand how a stand that can supposedly move faster than light was caught off guard by a stand that could only move like 300km/h Crazy Diamond, that should be snail's pace even at close range, iirc about 1000 times slower)
      Ultimately both are fan translations so we'll have to wait until the official one comes out to say for sure

  • @laurkanwalton5766
    @laurkanwalton5766 3 місяці тому

    Great vid 2 rly strong anime power houses there lyk Kenshiro, Guyver and vampire hunter D not just in anime but all of fiction tbf

  • @yashaoftheflames8475
    @yashaoftheflames8475 11 місяців тому

    Dope video I agree with the overall conclusion of both outcomes

  • @Noblemile2
    @Noblemile2 11 місяців тому +58

    You put Goku in a straight hand-to-hand against basically any character he simply wins.
    Dude is a middle-aged lifelong martial arts master (if there is anything he knows it's fighting) who gets stronger the longer the fight goes on, can teleport, and can shoot lasers from his hands like nothing.
    Goku is simply that guy.

    • @FortooSP
      @FortooSP 11 місяців тому +1

      You’re right. He should’ve put Wonder of U

    • @DarkNinja-bf6hk
      @DarkNinja-bf6hk 11 місяців тому +4

      I wouldnt say ANY character. Theres a lot of them that are also martial arts experts like baki for example. Theres a few videos of martial artists breaking down anime characters and its so surprising how many would beat goku

    • @toomberrebmoot9244
      @toomberrebmoot9244 11 місяців тому +1

      Kenshiro

    • @captainb.mccrea5480
      @captainb.mccrea5480 11 місяців тому +2

      Jotaro time stops and one shots Goku with a gut check like he did to DIO

    • @IForgellt
      @IForgellt 11 місяців тому +6

      @@captainb.mccrea5480hit

  • @giostar9843
    @giostar9843 11 місяців тому +7

    This is going to be interesting

    • @vongolatx4828
      @vongolatx4828 11 місяців тому +1

      Going to be bias

    • @Idkbro300
      @Idkbro300 11 місяців тому +3

      @@vongolatx4828that coming from somebody with your pfp and channel banner is absolutely insane

  • @Telarius
    @Telarius 11 місяців тому +53

    Ki blasts are all stronger than their users physical strikes, or are implied to be in all cases they're used. Even a standard kiblast would be stronger than a regular punch the ki user would use. Its why they use them, cheap, fast, and hits hard.

    • @Yisihere
      @Yisihere 11 місяців тому

      Yeah but goku is stupid

    • @MattOrSomethin
      @MattOrSomethin 11 місяців тому +6

      This is actually true! Ki blasts are all stronger then their users physical strikes! Special Ki attacks even have a set multiplier! The Kamehameha has around a 2.2x multiplier!

    • @cengix8850
      @cengix8850 11 місяців тому +1

      how the hell do you know the multipliers?

    • @chuiscache9998
      @chuiscache9998 11 місяців тому +6

      "That's Vegeta's technique™!"

    • @MattOrSomethin
      @MattOrSomethin 11 місяців тому +2

      @@cengix8850 Rough calculations. Some scaling between Goku, the Kamehameha, and demon king piccolo (or a couple other enemies), and also the fact that power level increases when doing ki based moves.

  • @kodoqbesar4301
    @kodoqbesar4301 11 місяців тому +39

    I have a question. If Kira unleashed SHA on you or Notorious Big followed you, will escape into a different dimension help you escape from them? Let's say you can use the space stone or Kamui from Naruto.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +9

      Maybe…? We really don’t know, but if the ocean stopped them (notorious big) and echo act 3 gravity move stopped SHA I don’t see why escaping into a different dimension won’t.

    • @benkoek10
      @benkoek10 11 місяців тому

      Yeah since the hand and cream neg both

    • @QuasiGame0
      @QuasiGame0 11 місяців тому +13

      SHA follows heat and BIG follows movements, being in or send them to another dimension would make you untracable

    • @ZeroYami
      @ZeroYami 11 місяців тому +5

      YES. YES IT WILL. SHA will just go follow a different thing and BIG can't copy the speed of teleportation since it's not actual speed.

    • @natalierafferty4765
      @natalierafferty4765 11 місяців тому

      Uhh yeah, they follow heat and speed, once they see you vanish they’ll move onto the next thing

  • @CasualSHADOWenjoyer
    @CasualSHADOWenjoyer 11 місяців тому +29

    oh hell nah... this is just... unfair 💀

    • @glerbus9561
      @glerbus9561 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, Goku is gonna get smoked.

    • @vongolatx4828
      @vongolatx4828 11 місяців тому +22

      @@glerbus9561 delusional

    • @CasualSHADOWenjoyer
      @CasualSHADOWenjoyer 11 місяців тому +18

      @@glerbus9561 bro is on some huge crack

    • @TheKingofCoral
      @TheKingofCoral 11 місяців тому

      @@vongolatx4828bro forgot what sarcasm is

    • @TheKingofCoral
      @TheKingofCoral 11 місяців тому

      ⁠@@CasualSHADOWenjoyer”huge crack” isn’t even a term lmao

  • @GNome744
    @GNome744 11 місяців тому +3

    You know I'm really glad you took their characters into account because too many what if fight scenarios just say "Oh Goku would kill this other person immediately" or "Oh my character would just kill Goku immediately with X hax ability despite the fact they've never once began a fight using it!" It really adds to a more mature take by taking their characterization into account as well. One thing though, Other characters such as Nappa and Dodoria are able to emit Ki from their mouths and Goku himself has shot a kamehameha from his feet before so I could see a scenario where Jotaro breaks Gokus arms only for Goku to shoot a kamehameha from his feet and headbutt Jotaro since I doubt Goku would ever just outright kill Jotaro

  • @shirtboyman8685
    @shirtboyman8685 11 місяців тому +2

    I always wondered about this. And a lot of other characters in Jojo versus Goku.

    • @NevarKanzaki
      @NevarKanzaki 11 місяців тому +2

      In an equalized stats case, Jotaro isn't exactly the best matchup for Jojo given that half of what he does is that he has a high statline compared to the Jojo cast. In an equalized stats case, it benefits characters that traded off stats for other things. However, no one in the Jojo cast is terribly all that good at fighting so most of the ones who beat Goku just beat him anyway without needing to equalize stats because they hax him out and there's nothing he can do. For example, GER stops Goku from doing anything. Goku attacking Wonder of U will get him killed. The only ones I see where stats would change the result are maybe ones like Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice. Okuyasu basically comes down to the first attack, maybe the second or third when space scraping to move happens. Vanilla Ice likely gets bodied till he goes inside Cream but Goku being Goku would probably wait for him to do so at which point Vanilla Ice probably wins. Dio is the same as the Jotaro matchup except that he's more likely to win because Dio is more prone to doughnuting than Jotaro.

  • @Gokuvids123
    @Gokuvids123 11 місяців тому +2

    Goku: im ready to break the rules "goes mui"
    Jotaro:ohhh sh-

    • @user-wz1bt6fz5w
      @user-wz1bt6fz5w 5 місяців тому

      Jotaro kills Goku before he even starts powering up

  • @firelizardryko
    @firelizardryko 10 місяців тому +1

    This is a cool vid. Great work and I agree with everything you said regarding the fights. One quick minor misconception I noticed was Super Kaioken’s existence. With any grade of SSJ that isn’t grade 4 you will die from it due to the reasoning you gave. However, grade 4 is essentially your base form but stronger which would allow for the usage of Kaioken on top. I definitely can still see and understand why it’s thought to be impossible though. The series tells us it twice and we never actually see the concept unfold other than with Blue or DB Heroes.

    • @nobeldum5417
      @nobeldum5417 10 місяців тому

      Goku has said somewhere in super that he can't use kk in any form other than blue, he can only use it because of the amount of ki control he has in mastered ssjb. and the only time he used it in z was in a non-cannon fight vs pikkon

    • @firelizardryko
      @firelizardryko 10 місяців тому

      @@nobeldum5417 that is contradicted by the fact grade 4 is exactly like base form as stated by Goku in the Cell saga that they were working to perfect the form with no drawbacks. That’s why I call it a misconception because grade 4 should be what we see Goku using by this point as the previous grades are irrelevant. Also Old Kai was the one who said if you mix SSJ + Kaioken you die. That would only apply for grades 1, 2, and 3 tho.

  • @nosukog
    @nosukog 11 місяців тому +2

    Both of my favorite MCs

  • @Aluran
    @Aluran 11 місяців тому +6

    Goku fought someone who could time stop skip etc and thought of a way to counter

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +4

      Hit time skip is very and I mean VERY different from a time stop so even if we talked about db super goku he won’t counter the time stop like he did with hit time skip.

    • @elijahwatjen9839
      @elijahwatjen9839 11 місяців тому

      He would get caught the first time but would use after image or a smoke screen every time after if he thinks it's coming, it would be like jotaro vs mih but he gets to keep his 5 seconds

    • @kaneobscurum6016
      @kaneobscurum6016 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TLDH1They are very different abilities, but it does show Goku's ability to adapt to something in unique ways and get a read on his opponent. The way he countered time skip was by having seen how Hit fights, he started predicting ahead in the fight and started making snap decisions based on what Hit was most likely just about to do, as opposed to what Hit was actively doing. Not saying this gives Goku the ability to counter Star Platinum, but it does open the window for him to make it not just an Insta win button.

  • @VideoAssaultSaturday
    @VideoAssaultSaturday 11 місяців тому

    That's dope you made it into the summer of manga! I applied but I didn't make it this year.. :( It's ok though, next year I'm in it to win it! 😂

  • @ellie7252
    @ellie7252 11 місяців тому +2

    this makes me wonder what Jolyne vs Goku would be like, afterall, she has her strings and martial arts prowess as we saw in the C-Moon and Planet Waves fights.

  • @monodragoon
    @monodragoon 11 місяців тому +2

    My favorite part about this is the complete fighting-style difference between the two. Whenever Goku fights someone the hardest damage he does is break their arms or something similar (excluding regenerating enemies like Cell and Buu). However when Jotaro fights he actively tries to cripple them in whatever way he can. I don't think it would have any difference on the fight, but it would be funny to see.

    • @jalencunningham2012
      @jalencunningham2012 11 місяців тому

      Goku crippled Nappa but he was extremely pissed off that most of his friends was killed so that’s a exception.
      He might’ve crippled Burter too

  • @orion_x-000
    @orion_x-000 11 місяців тому +1

    6:30 Holy fuck do I hear the Ultimate Tenkaichi OST in the Background? I'm getting chills and Nostalgia!!!

  • @valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee
    @valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee 5 місяців тому +1

    7:32 i think its explained in super;
    super saiyan is a state of rage and kaioken needs you to be like… not angry or something so basically if you do it wrong you just explode 👍

  • @goketerhc6766
    @goketerhc6766 11 місяців тому +2

    As a next video suggestion: I would love to see a Perfect Cell vs. Kars.
    The Perfect Being vs. the Ultimate Life Form.
    Both believe to be perfect and both believe to be the ultimate life form, it would be actually interesting knowing how they both can regenerate and what they'd do in a similar situation with equalized stats.
    Could start off as Imperfect Cell vs. Kars then Perfect Cell vs. Ultimate Kars that would possibly progress into Super Perfect Cell vs. Ultimate Kars (with Hamon, and many more liberties on him such as hypthetical stands)
    or even separate the third fight with a Jorge Joestar's Kars.

    • @squinos3255
      @squinos3255 11 місяців тому +1

      I believe that he already made that video

    • @EliyahDaBoss
      @EliyahDaBoss 11 місяців тому +1

      cell wins because of his regen factor, kars has no way to erase every cell in cells body. also cell is part saiyan so if kars chops him into pieces cell will heal back (because of Piccolos genes) and be a lot stronger.

    • @lookie4448
      @lookie4448 2 місяці тому

      @@EliyahDaBoss Cell can only experience a zenkai boost when he comes from the brink of death, which - given his biology - is incredibly extreme - he had to basically blow himself up and become nothing more than a small nucleus

  • @longmastergamer2003
    @longmastergamer2003 11 місяців тому +1

    Dragon ball and JoJo are THE goats of anime. Nothing compares, especially since both get referenced everywhere all the time

  • @leaDR356
    @leaDR356 11 місяців тому +8

    One thing I would like is Diavolo vs Naruto (With Equalised Stats obviously)

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому

      It’s sure is interesting…

    • @its_Criminal1
      @its_Criminal1 11 місяців тому +1

      Diavolo destroys. He just donuts him immediately. King crimson is powerful enough to donut somebody with the same durability as him

    • @sirjoesphjoestar8361
      @sirjoesphjoestar8361 11 місяців тому +2

      honestly, i may sound crazy, but even with unequalised stats, diavolo may win via dura neg, outsmarting, outhaxing and blitzing

    • @its_Criminal1
      @its_Criminal1 11 місяців тому

      @@sirjoesphjoestar8361 I agree

    • @fbiagent7870
      @fbiagent7870 11 місяців тому

      @@sirjoesphjoestar8361 pre shippuden yes, but not war arc or after since naruto is faster than light

  • @masonfef7440
    @masonfef7440 11 місяців тому

    I really dig this match up, now idk if you're gonna agree but can you do MiH Pucci vs Sonic the hedgehog with equal stats at somepoint that would be legendary

  • @chosen1m0nt
    @chosen1m0nt 11 місяців тому +1

    Since you did jotaro v goku might as well do the supporting casts too. Match em up based on who is close in power.

  • @johnruth5737
    @johnruth5737 11 місяців тому +2

    Jotaro could just give the man another heart attack, grab it and squeeze.

  • @Master_Rater
    @Master_Rater 11 місяців тому +2

    OH NO

  • @Indexer409
    @Indexer409 7 місяців тому +2

    A thing I wanted to mention was that Jotaro can one shot Goku in time stop via stopping his heart. This is why I think Jotaro just clears Goku in a blood lusted fight to be honest

  • @sathyanarayan9140
    @sathyanarayan9140 11 місяців тому +1

    You should have done dio vs goku because both of them like to mess around

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 11 місяців тому +2

    Hit vs Diavolo (equalized stats)
    Guldo vs Jotaro (equalized stats)
    Frieza/Zamasu vs Kars (equalized stats)
    17 and 18 vs Josuke and Okuyasu (equalized stats).

  • @fulookin6701
    @fulookin6701 11 місяців тому

    This is one of those videos where the question “who asked?” is valid.

  • @sneakyking
    @sneakyking 11 місяців тому +3

    Dbz is all about getting stronger and pushing limits.
    Equalizing stats would undo the premise.

    • @vrooommmm9631
      @vrooommmm9631 11 місяців тому +1

      bro who cares it's a what if fight let people have fun

    • @PlatinumDustVA
      @PlatinumDustVA 11 місяців тому +1

      True! But also Goku is much more that just stats, he would still be able to defeat Jotaro regardless of whether they are the same strength

    • @sneakyking
      @sneakyking 11 місяців тому

      @@vrooommmm9631 no fun allowed.
      This is serious.
      Its anime fiction fights.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sneakykingLmao😂 liked the sarcasm there.

  • @pmbo8
    @pmbo8 6 місяців тому

    One interesting thing to reflect about this two on a friendly sparring.
    If you don't consider reading ki enough to detect an stand, is the idea of Goku fighting an "invicible" opponent.
    And assuming Platinum is the one that scales up to him, it'll be quite a thrilling puzzle of a fight.
    Plus imagne he has Senzu beans for when the fight ends, that"ll real change how Goku sees beat up a human
    Goku would know Jotaro is bacically at the level of Mr.Satan.
    He'll be force to fight cautious against someone who can unleash as he pleases
    Just imagine, Goku being a prick forcing Jotaro to bend a knee, putting him on calculated risk as he realizes how he depends his integrity on his ghost something, ¿would you unleash this barrage of punches that might finally put me down at exchange of allowing you hit the ground like a projectile?;
    Destroying the scenary, using his ki blasts and bending them at last minute, speedblitzing a finishing poke attack
    And Jotaro using his time stop and smarts, to both turnt the tide and counter just another barrage of punches.
    Which speaking of their fight styles, an equalized Platinum would beat Goku and give no break at close quarters, the fun thing starts when he realizes his poor range.
    Finally we reach the ideal scenary of Goku fanfic fights. Where the thrill of it is Goku can lose without realizing on it, by the simple thrill of it!

  • @kodoqbesar4301
    @kodoqbesar4301 11 місяців тому +5

    Who would win between Jotaro, DIO, Diavolo, Kira, and Pucci against Sakuya Izayoi (stats equalized)? I equalize stats because I don't want to hear "Pucci blitz" or "Sakuya blitz" arguments. Can these time manipulating stand users defeat the maid of the Scarlet Devil Mansion?

    • @matthewkukowski4638
      @matthewkukowski4638 11 місяців тому +3

      Even with equalized stats, I think Sakuya wins because of resistances. I think that she's just straight up immune to time-related abilities, which instantly nullifies the JoJo top tiers' hax except for one: Kira. But even if he destroyed her entirely with KQ, she has acausality (so killing her wouldn't matter because she technically exists outside of time).

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewkukowski4638well I don’t exactly know Sakuya and her abilities but I saw her in video (she is the maid that throws knives and stop time right?) but I’m going with what you are saying if she truly has “resistance against all types and shapes of time attacks & abilities then the only ones I see that can defeat her is GER, TUSK ACT 4, D4C:Love Train, and Wonder of U.

    • @sirjoesphjoestar8361
      @sirjoesphjoestar8361 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewkukowski4638 top tier hax is rtz and calamity tho ?

  • @greenman8451
    @greenman8451 11 місяців тому +2

    now i want to see dio vs senator armstrong

  • @Zogged
    @Zogged 11 місяців тому +2

    ki attacks like kamehama has multipliers on them like 2.5 so he could kinda throw out a kameha with little concequence against opponents that cant fly or move that fast etc

    • @cengix8850
      @cengix8850 11 місяців тому

      HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THE MULTIPLIERS!?!?!?

    • @fbiagent7870
      @fbiagent7870 11 місяців тому

      @@cengix8850 we dont, and most likely the multipliers are higher

    • @Kyuubey0406
      @Kyuubey0406 11 місяців тому

      @@fbiagent7870it’s 2.2x in the raditz saga, when raditz scanned his power while he used a kamehameha it shot up by 2.2x

    • @Zeno1781
      @Zeno1781 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Kyuubey0406that's the super Kamehameha 😭

    • @Kyuubey0406
      @Kyuubey0406 11 місяців тому

      @@Zeno1781 that was a regular kamehameha.

  • @heheatlas
    @heheatlas 11 місяців тому +2

    Stuff like Kaioken and Super Saiyan multiply the base, and I of course am assuming that their equalized stats are based on their base. Namek Goku can immediatly go x10 making him 10 times stronger and faster than Jotaro. He would also use Kaioken, as he can use up to x10 safely on Namek . Now, the same goes for Super Saiyan, a x50 as stated in the vid. Even if we account for Jotaro breaking limbs, it doesn't take the to use ki attacks. Limbs just make it easier, like a wand used for magic. It's a channel. I believe Goku sweeps both of these fights easily.

  • @ellie7252
    @ellie7252 11 місяців тому +1

    if you wanna make naruto content, then i'd say making a naruto character vs jojo character discussion would be a good idea, as it would draw in naruto fans, and would make standalone naruto content more easily attainable to be sold to a larger audience!

  • @M2_Unknown
    @M2_Unknown 11 місяців тому

    I do kind of disagree with the last point you mention of saying that we have 3 parts to know that Jotaro does this kind of stuff, when you are specially using only End of Part 3 Jotaro which is not as experience as the other 2 and I would think Goku would probably take the second round cause of that and better Battle IQ
    But overall, this was a pretty fun video, it’s interesting to think how those 2 versions of Goku would probably interact with that Jotaro in a fight where they are on an equal

  • @juzox5161
    @juzox5161 11 місяців тому

    Enrico Pucci versus All for One
    Battle of the Thieves, both are able to steal abilities, one can use stolen abilities, the other can create command disks and manipulate memories

  • @Koamoments
    @Koamoments 11 місяців тому

    Ngl, one thing he sorta forgot about, is that when jotaro is bloodlusted, especially in the dio fight, he tends to aim for the head. So on the cell saga side of this fight, Jotaro would most likely end up busting gokus skull before he figures out that jotaro is going for the kill.

  • @swanky8699
    @swanky8699 11 місяців тому

    AYE, fair enough.

  • @eliteshadowboii
    @eliteshadowboii 11 місяців тому +1

    "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"

  • @t_bkdk_r2285
    @t_bkdk_r2285 11 місяців тому +3

    You should probably mention their starting points and the amount of distance between them because it plays a crucial role whether or not Jotaro can immediately stop time and kill Goku as the most diatance we've ever seen Jotaro cover in stopped time was 15ish metres in part 4. Part 3 Jotaro's timeskip is 3/4 of part 4 Jotaro's so if he isn't in 12ish metres range of Goku at the start, it gives Goku time to fly in the opposite direction and think about ways to beat Jotaro

    • @t_bkdk_r2285
      @t_bkdk_r2285 11 місяців тому

      @@PotaraP Yeah but that's just the hax resistence of power in db, so we can't be sure it'll work in a commonverse

    • @t_bkdk_r2285
      @t_bkdk_r2285 11 місяців тому

      @@PotaraP Yeah, that's why power can resist hax, otherwise, eveey character would be invincible

    • @t_bkdk_r2285
      @t_bkdk_r2285 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PotaraP Yeah, also, Jiren overpowered time and broke out of Hit's timecage. However, that only happens if you're immensely more powerful than your opponent. Here, they're going at it with equalized stats so I don't think that hax resist is gonna work

  • @marcus7984
    @marcus7984 11 місяців тому

    Great video.
    But something Goku can do, even if his hands and legs are broken. Is use his mouth for blast attacks

  • @chiggybungu8881
    @chiggybungu8881 11 місяців тому

    No outro song kaleb? is this even a kaleb ia video?

  • @moonfoxx814
    @moonfoxx814 10 місяців тому

    idk why but im imagining if these two actually fought it would look something like the gojo v toji fight. Like, Jotaro tries to blindside/distract Goku before going in for a quick fatality.
    The big difference is that Goku may be able to sense star platinum (but not see him), therefore being able to sense Jotaro.
    idk just a random thought.

  • @mystjrboxing4451
    @mystjrboxing4451 11 місяців тому +3

    Goku is master martial artist and has done it for years

  • @the_hat_man879
    @the_hat_man879 11 місяців тому

    I think an interesting variation of this vid could be "hit vs diavolo equalized stats" time skip vs time skip this is only an idea tho feel free to use it literally anyone who sees this!

  • @redreaper9622
    @redreaper9622 11 місяців тому +3

    I think most of everything you said here is fine, EXCEPT for a key detail: Goku relying on his hands and legs to use his powers. Uhm, this was a plot point several times, actually, in Dragon Ball.
    Goku's limbs being broken was a repeated occurrence by antagonists to specifically reduce his danger level, like when King Piccolo broke both his legs and one arm, and was defeated anyway because Ki isn't some limb-limited force. It can be projected at the same capacity through one's feet, or mouth. Similarly, when having BOTH LEGS and BOTH ARMS broken by Piccolo, Goku still defeated him via just headbutting him. And when Vegeta broke both his legs, Goku literally just fired an energy blast from one of his remaining hands in his eye.
    What I'm trying to say is Jotaro will try, and probably SUCCEED, in breaking a limb. Maybe two. He won't get all four, as Goku will recognize that strat and fight back. Worse, it would and should totally surprise Jotaro, since this assumption he made was completely wrong. And even if he did get all his limbs, Goku can still fly and fire beams without his limbs working, and if all else fails, headbutt.
    And as you've mentioned, Goku's compatriots already got around stopped time, and Goku canonically has figured out how to get around a similar power in the form of Time Skip. I find it incredibly unlikely Jotaro could succeed at this strategy, even in stopped time, via things like his barriers able to prevent attack or harm, and Jotaro DOES have a cooldown of some sort for him to operate in-Though it does seem to vary depending on the amount of Time Stopped. Regardless, the point is Goku's limbs being broken simply isn't a factor.

  • @esteban8471
    @esteban8471 11 місяців тому +22

    Even with equalized stats, I think Goku's superior maneuverability, range and combat experience will give him the advantage to pull the win. That's just my opinion though.

    • @IronSK
      @IronSK 11 місяців тому +1

      This is an equalized match, in this fight Star Platinum would be a huge problem for him.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 11 місяців тому

      ​@@IronSKHe could just get the SSGSS boost for example. Or dodge with ultra instinct

    • @hypr9322
      @hypr9322 11 місяців тому

      @@samueloak1600 what the fuck are you talking about watch the video plz. goku doesnt have ui or ssgss at cell ark wtf

    • @IronSK
      @IronSK 11 місяців тому +2

      @@samueloak1600 The video specifically talks about Namek saga and cell saga Goku.
      And even if super was involved, the stats are equalized. Ofc Goku would wipe the floor with Jotaro in a regular setting. But here their physical attributes are equal. Star Platinum is physically stronger than Jotaro and Toriyama confirmed that time abilities in DB can only be overpowered by those who are more powerful than their wielder. Like i said, in this fight SP would be a major problem for Goku.

    • @TLDH1
      @TLDH1 11 місяців тому

      @@samueloak1600first it’s cell saga and frieze saga goku, second not manoeuvre or agility will escape a time stop from close range. And because it’s equal stats star platinum punch’s can break bones and impale goku body in time stop.

  • @BertoPlease
    @BertoPlease 11 місяців тому +14

    You poor soul if this video reaches *those* DBZ fans... Good video though

    • @PlatinumDustVA
      @PlatinumDustVA 11 місяців тому +1

      LMAO I'll admit I'm already here correcting people 😂

  • @unoriginalusername1472
    @unoriginalusername1472 11 місяців тому

    Good vid but reading these comments gonna be painful af with how many users are already ignoring that you specifically used Pre-Zenkai Namek and Cell Games Goku lol. Tho since you mentioned the ki blast smokescreen example I wonder if Goku could bait out a time stop with an afterimage technique then hit em with an instant transmission kamehameha? The JoJo side of the comments here seems to forget that all Ki moves in general hit way harder than physical attacks.

  • @blobyes211
    @blobyes211 11 місяців тому

    Peak Jotaro vs Kaioken Goku would be an amazing fight

  • @slotterman0608
    @slotterman0608 11 місяців тому +1

    Can you do Gojo vs all the villains in Jojo

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      Part 1- Gojo wins
      Part 2- Gojo wins
      Part 3- Gojo wins
      Part 4- Gojo wins
      Part 5- Gojo wins
      Part 6- Pucci wins
      Part 7- Stalemate or Valentine wins
      Part 8- Tooru wins
      Part 9- unknown

  • @PattPlays
    @PattPlays 10 місяців тому

    "I'm not interested"
    but if youre dead you can-
    okay

  • @myusername3689
    @myusername3689 11 місяців тому +1

    I wonder what time stop in the middle of instant transmission will do.

  • @Hotrodimusprime
    @Hotrodimusprime 11 місяців тому +1

    Watching all the kids in the comments getting mad is just fuel to my fire. Your all adorable thinking your right.

  • @limptoast
    @limptoast 11 місяців тому +1

    I think flight is a win condition. Since Goku can simply get away.

  • @wherefunniman7208
    @wherefunniman7208 11 місяців тому +1

    Alternate title: transformation abusing alien and a 17 year old kid that can stop time fight

  • @dioovaheaven6979
    @dioovaheaven6979 11 місяців тому +1

    "so its the same type of stand as star platinum"

  • @groovycarlitos
    @groovycarlitos 11 місяців тому

    I wanna see gear 5 luffy vs like the wonder of u or funny valentine

  • @Ryan-monkey
    @Ryan-monkey 7 місяців тому

    Goku can read minds he wouldn’t need time to figure out what jotaro is gonna do

  • @auraemerald8434
    @auraemerald8434 11 місяців тому +2

    I’m pretty sure Goku just wins in almost every case. The only time I see him losing is if Jotaro consistently stops time over and over again. Goku’s a better tactician and can probably predict Star Platinum’s punches pretty easily before the Saiyan Saga. Not only that, just being able to change the landscape at will is a huge advantage for Goku since he can mess up Jotaro’s plan. Not to say Jotaro isn’t going to be able to land any up close hits but he hasn’t had any formal martial arts training, it’s always been a game of power and planning in Jojo.
    Another thing worth mentioning is that it’s probably taking Jotaro at least a few time stops to bring Goku down even while bloodlusted. Goku’s pain tolerance is a fair bit higher and a single time stop isn’t enough to instantly kill regardless of which fighter is having their stats raised/dropped.

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      Its not bloodlusted but even if yeah Goku is just skilled
      However we cant really sleep on timestop, having your opponent immobile for even a second is insane advantage if you can do it multiple times then gg. Really comes down to if Goku is gonna go for challenge and not use long range attacks

    • @auraemerald8434
      @auraemerald8434 11 місяців тому

      @@krysert4552 That’s exactly it, Jotaro best chance comes from time stop. Outside of it, Goku begins dominating in sheer talent and tactics. Jotaro needs to find the perfect moments to stop time (and not call out “The World” when he stops time or Goku’s going to catch on to the trick) and somehow cripple Goku, which is hard with the whole equalized stats thing.

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      @@auraemerald8434 honestly cripling him wouldnt probably be all that hard since Star Platinum have one of the best precisions in verse but this is not bloodlusted or anything so it goes off the table completely. I really feel that this will also come to how much damage can Jotaro inflict on Hoku while being in time stop because otherwise he is almost not hitting him

    • @auraemerald8434
      @auraemerald8434 11 місяців тому

      @@krysert4552 While true, same can be said for Goku’s perception. And he already excels at hand to hand combat, meaning Star Platinum’s usual strategy of hard punching won’t work. Goku’s going to be aiming for the same shots with a better chance since he knows how to actually fight. Jotaro also doesn’t have much defense against ki attacks, especially tracking ones, and things like the Solar Flare. And Goku’s been able to work ki blasts into his hand to hand combat

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      @@auraemerald8434 well yes but what comes into Jotaros play is that he can have Goku completely imobile for 2 seconds. And yes Goku may be good at predicting but there is still a thing that he cant see stands so he cant predict star platinum punches just like it to go for injury while not risking one in process. Also solar flare require both hands so Goku cant do it up close and if he does it by flying up he may be able to get Jotaro but Star Platinum acts on its own anyway so it wouldnt really matter in big picrure

  • @letsgobrandon1906
    @letsgobrandon1906 11 місяців тому +2

    No purpose to a debate if you equalize stats. Just use characters who have a more interesting fight.

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      We are comparing BIQ abilities and character traits. Stats would only get in way of it

  • @Koamoments
    @Koamoments 11 місяців тому

    Honestly, I wanna see baki vs goku with equalized stats. Or maybe yujiro vs goku with equalized stats would be a better matchup.

  • @shikitohno1756
    @shikitohno1756 11 місяців тому

    I got another animedia character that could be fun to fight with Jotaro. Ren Fuji from dies irae, his power is specifically time slowing which can lead to eventual timestop. Where as Jotaro moves super fast Ren can slow down everything around him so it's an interesting parallel. And I don't mean he moves so fast things seem slower to him i mean he actually slows down time. Somebody with the exact opposite power but it leads to the same results. Specifically uh... Before he gets super OP thought.

  • @silveriron2016
    @silveriron2016 11 місяців тому +2

    Goku moves faster than time skip yk💀

  • @Lykoz.
    @Lykoz. 11 місяців тому +1

    I knew you left out blue Goku but when fought hit, he understood his time skip and moved accordingly, so I feel like he could do that with Jotaro.

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      ​@we_be_vibineven if Hit didnt really stop time but used technique to stop people in time.
      Goku get away with overwhelming technique with Ki so not only it wouldnt do a thing againts jotaro but with equal stats Goku cant even overpower his opponents.
      Which brings me to a fact that Hit with Equal stats fight is probably most busted character in DB

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому

      @we_be_vibin now that you mentione it yeah king crimson is pretty op in that regard as well but on lot of characters it depends if it manages to get first hit or not.

    • @donovangunther4538
      @donovangunther4538 11 місяців тому

      @we_be_vibin That's not the implication at all. KC with equalised stats solos DB because DB a) doesn't have a power system to build off and b) just has boring powers that are "get even bigger number". Meanwhile jjba's stands provide a variety of powers that warp reality as we know it and KC clearly isn't the top of the list in terms of power

    • @donovangunther4538
      @donovangunther4538 11 місяців тому

      @we_be_vibin No what I said was because DB's characters have such boring powers that cause fights to boil down to finding out who has the biggest number, time skip(hit/KC) would both solo that verse with equalised stats. In JJBA, however, the setting has so much variety and has abilities that are intrinsically better than time skip that hit/KC wouldn't come out on top(obviously evident in RTZ which even solos DB without equalised stats and beat KC). The same power holds a different weight in different settings. I'm not disagreeing that hit solos DB with equalised stats, I'm disagreeing that KC is the most overpowered stand in JJBA when stats are equalized

  • @nedeemmalik
    @nedeemmalik 11 місяців тому

    Kaleb do u have a public discord?

  • @FluppietheRockruffFan
    @FluppietheRockruffFan 9 місяців тому

    I already know Goku is taking this, as a kid he basically erased an entire army, fought several demons, AND EVEN SENT A RABBIT TO THE MOON.

  • @blueeyedsaiyan1132
    @blueeyedsaiyan1132 11 місяців тому

    explained in the super anime that goku cant stack kaioken on super saiyan and is only possible to do on blue because of its whole "power through extreme control" thing and it being more compatible with kaioken because of it matching up with its calming focus part and also needing ki control for the kaioken thus making a combination of kaioken and super saiyan blue (mostly) the only form to stack kaioken on top of though technically there could be an argument that super saiyan 4 could be stacked with kaioken but as we all know ssj4 isnt canon to super so... yeah.

  • @samueloak1600
    @samueloak1600 11 місяців тому +1

    Goku any day of da week

  • @wildicedemon9926
    @wildicedemon9926 11 місяців тому

    If Goku does Goku type things in the fight Jotaro is gonna win, if he doesn't Goku wins. Video pretty much summed up.

  • @_Blackmore_
    @_Blackmore_ 11 місяців тому

    first to like, comment and favourite! 😳😏😅

  • @minus4425
    @minus4425 10 місяців тому +2

    So i just wanna say how Zenkai works. Goku only gets the zenkai if he is defeated.
    Also Jotaro's time stop has infinite reach

    • @joezar33
      @joezar33 10 місяців тому

      Is Zenkai when a Saiyan gets defeated , but get stronger after ?

  • @unclejojo3702
    @unclejojo3702 11 місяців тому

    goku did sense trunks feelings before the 3 year skip and never did it again and the same as reading krillin mind as well if we used those or just the first one in the 2nd round goku would tell jotaro is going for the kill and would take things more serious at the start probably wont do much but i think its worth talking about as well as some other things the comments said like sensing his stand or not

  • @kitfisto-wl6iv
    @kitfisto-wl6iv 11 місяців тому +1

    Once I heard intelligence, I knew this fight was over.

    • @evolutionaryz3055
      @evolutionaryz3055 11 місяців тому

      How?

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому +3

      Goku has very good BIQ

    • @sirjoesphjoestar8361
      @sirjoesphjoestar8361 11 місяців тому

      @@krysert4552 i mean, i would say he has better biq than jotaro by lot but then again, pure inteligence is kinda slaughter

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sirjoesphjoestar8361 yeah i know but this isnt school test or anything

  • @ballislife2835
    @ballislife2835 11 місяців тому

    "As long a Jotaro breaks his hands"
    Meanwhile Goku firing Kamehameha's with his feet, blowing shit up with just an angy face, being 100% capable of fighting with his legs only(Zamasu getting kicked in the mouth during their fight after goku broke his own arms and Zamasu broke his leg. The same guy being able to tap two SSB protags with two attacks and requiring a fusion to even get close to killing him. and saiyans being notorious for mouth beams. Yeah. Just the arms.

  • @disgraceful_
    @disgraceful_ 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m scared of looking in the comments if anything goku happens

  • @health019
    @health019 11 місяців тому

    dawg …☠️

  • @jotarouchiha5950
    @jotarouchiha5950 11 місяців тому

    Make a Video about Ultimate Kars vs Sonic Exe

  • @BLOODY__FATALITY
    @BLOODY__FATALITY 11 місяців тому

    Dude said "the kamayamaya" 💀

  • @JESUS3IS3LORD3
    @JESUS3IS3LORD3 3 місяці тому

    What is the name of the song that starts at 05:24?

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 11 місяців тому +1

    Is is base Goku the same as Jotaro? Or Super Saiyan Goku the same as Jotaro?

  • @somarushinde1704
    @somarushinde1704 11 місяців тому

    just some contect about the pikon yes not cannon but aslso possble couse its in the afterlive

  • @StanleyG23
    @StanleyG23 11 місяців тому

    Kenshiro with Muso Tensei could unironically smoke both of these guys.
    Muso Tensei really is that overpowered.

    • @windandfireproductions5358
      @windandfireproductions5358 10 місяців тому

      Yeah but hnk is niche

    • @StanleyG23
      @StanleyG23 10 місяців тому

      @@windandfireproductions5358 So? That doesn't change the fact that Kenshiro with Muso Tensei could defeat them.

  • @yukselkarakoc9143
    @yukselkarakoc9143 10 місяців тому

    "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"
    "Star Platinum: Ultra Instinct KAMEHAMEHAAA!!"
    Gg's my man...

  • @shade7014
    @shade7014 11 місяців тому +2

    Um... how does Goku see Star Platinum? Cause if he's not a Stand user he flat out can't see Star Platinum, meaning it's gonna be VERY hard to tell when something is gonna happen if you have a bloodlusted Jotaro genuinely trying to break you and you can't even see how he's doing it, nor can you even stop the thing from doing it cause Goku ALSO can't physically interact with SP.

    • @bamboomboi1115
      @bamboomboi1115 10 місяців тому +1

      He wouldn’t be able to see Star platinum but Goku would be able to sense him since Sp is the physical manifestation of Jotaro’s life essence or soul

    • @REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS
      @REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS 6 місяців тому

      @@bamboomboi1115good explanation

  • @ZeroYami
    @ZeroYami 11 місяців тому +2

    Namek saga Goku can use Kaioken up to times ten without harming his body. This isn't a fight.
    Another thing, Ki Sense WOULD allow goku to see stands since stands are basically manifested life energy. If Goku ever decides to use a Kamehaneha (which he has shown he can redirect to curve and hit his enemies against Raditz), Jotaro would die. The Kamehameha as a technique multiplies the user's power level by about 2.7x while in use, and with that kind of force, you can one shot someone who'd now be that much weaker than you but doesn't have dragon ball level durability. Not to mention, Goku could just activate Kaioken on top of that and REALLY seal the deal.