Can Jotaro solo My Hero Academia? (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- #anime #manga #myheroacademia
Today we go over the exciting anime matchup between Jotaro Kujo, the strongest stand user from part 3 of Jojo's Bizarre adventure vs Class 1-A from my hero academia including the likes of Midoriya, Bakugo, and Todoroki!
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0:00 - Intro
1:20 - How Strong is Jotaro?
5:44 - Scaling Class 1-A
10:33 - Final Thoughts - Фільми й анімація
Jotaro has Time Stop + FTL+ reactions + Phasing = Deadly combination
I think the issue with this is we see this as a one time ability he uses on himself.
Ok?
I’m guessing you made this comment before the video?
GREAT VIDEO,
That is true but there are literally multiple characters who can do those
Time Stop is an ability that no one from MHA can counter, combine with the fact that Jotaro can react to FTL+ attacks and can even hit Made in Heaven as he was getting faster, shows that if Jotaro plays his cards right and uses his stands ability to phase through organs, would make Jotaro last incredibly long, Jotaro also has Large Town Levels of AP so he can also hit pretty hard
In the finale encounter nothing implied he was going to “phase” through pucci.
@@Jsipki265Because Pucci was too damn fast and was shortening the Time Stop, and Pucci used his daughter as bait, Jotaro would have killed Pucci if it weren't for his daughter
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 reread what I typed.
@@Jsipki265What do you think that overkill is required for Pucci (a guy that's not that durable to begin with), seriously Jotaro doesn't use it because it's gruesome and very out of character, I am taking Jotaro at his bloodlusted potential which is why, I included phasing
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Since when had Jotaro phased someone while bloodlusted?
A few things to put in mind
As he confessed with Polnareff, he has held back and consistently held back during this fight in order to not kill him, it would be definitely safe to say that against every villain excluding Dio, Pucci and maybe Kira, he held back like crazy.
The comparison with weather to Jotaro doesnt work, as the strength of one's ability doesn't always match with their physical power 1:1. Weather has powerful hax, but as a physical combatant its less focused on power and more on special effects like lightning and air friction, as a matter of fact if i remember correctly, it rarely actually punches people rather than engulf them to trigger his abilities.
Made in Heaven also speeds up time related abilities, which Jotaro's went from 5 seconds to 3, this progressed throughout the fight and would have likely made his ability unusable if he had the time.
The term "invincible" tends to be used as hyperbole for just tremendously strong, its not exactly supposed to be directly comparable outside of interactions between characters.
Also fun fact, some stands can be witnessed by non-stand users under teo circumstances. The stand is made out of phsycial matter like flesh and metal, IE Notorious BIG. The second is that the stand is so tremendously strong that it is vividly shown to everyone, IE Wonder of U. This has no bearing on this matchup but if you ever get into JoJo matchups again, try to keep this in mind.
Jotaro wouldnt know who he could hit or walk up to during timestop he might put it up run into decay and take it down and die.
@@alexrobinet7576 You forgot non-stand effects aren't transferred to the user. Jotaro clocking shiggy with star platinum isn't going to hurt him
And if you're asking for proof, bet
Stone free blocked flaming meteorites and wasn't set on fire, she also used her stand in a partial vacuum and was fine because her body had a suit. His stand inhaling another stand didn't force him to hold his own breath either.
The hands bled she took damage.
@@alexrobinet7576 cause she hit a rock falling at her at like mach 3 bro
if he didnt pull his punches he might have destoryed robs and houses
Jotaro - “star platinum : One for all”
Deku - “how?!?”
Jotaro - “GG EZ, its the same type of stand as star platinum, u lose”
Wrong
@@legendarylamar he beated twoh with that technique blud.
@@Ns_chancellornot canon but nice bit tho😂
Note: made in heavens ability was shorting jojos time stop.
Even then Jotaro would've killed Pucci if it wasn't for Joylne
Realistically Re-taro is *not* solving the verse
Two bullets and he’s on life-support versus
Deku, who can get sent through buildings and bounced off of vehicles and struck by lightning and say damn that hurt but anyway
Gigantomachia kills Jotaro😂
@@kojoattah3987 I agree he wouldn’t solo the verse. He would be pretty dangerous though. Also while jotaro durability is low compared to mha. It’s not that bad. Like you could say deku has bad durability because of hair bullets. I don’t agree with that though.
@@zyaggho9185 They weren’t just hair bullets they were stronger and about 100 times faster than a normal bullet
But that point would make sense if he didn’t get struck by lightning etc because the level of durability are completely different
@@kojoattah3987 Ah I should have been clearer. The hair bullets was a bit of a joke. I know they weren’t normal bullets.
Also jotaro’s durability is wonky. He can take some hits from dio who is building level in base strength. But he can get hurt by bullets which is somewhat weird. Also im not saying jotaro can just get hit and act like nothing happened. I mean he can take like 1 to 2 punches from dio and he is out.
Tbh this was a pretty good video, but I am still convinced Jotaro is stronger, like massively stronger than Class 1A. I’d like to point out a couple of feats which I think massively put Class 1A to shame, starting off with Jotaro breaking the teeth of diamonds. So usually diamonds can’t even withstand a normal nuke, but seeing as the ones that Jotaro was punching, which were the size of a house, it’s safe to say that not even the strongest nuke in the world can take them on and it’s been proven before that even the average 25 megaton nuke can take out a small country. Plus taking in the fact that Jotaro had such little space to punch his way out, since he was technically trapped inside the teeth, he probably relied on the recoil given by punching and moving so much, he most likely couldn’t even use his full strength because of the small space given, he was only able to go Rambo when he got out and to be completely honest, I don’t even think Jotaro was using all of his strength, Jotaro always pulls his punches against his opponents, Anubis and DIO being the exception, also taking in the fact that he was up against a woman, he would have prolly gone easy on her, I know I would have. So call me crazy, but that’s already a Small Country Level feat and Jotaro becomes even stronger at the end of Part 3, so who knows he might have already been Country Level when he came to his prime.
Another feat I wanna talk about is when he went up against Sheer Heart Attack. I watched the Stand Science video on that and Shuckmeister said that SHA was most likely made of ductile rocks from the crust of the Earth, so I researched how much they can withstand and the crust can withstand about 57511 kgs/ 127000 psi of force to break. Which in perspective is about large meteorite level, coming in at the force of 5640 mpa, and bear in mind this is Part 4 Jotaro, who is significantly weaker.
Also durability wise, Jotaro can tank kicks from The World, from an Awakened DIO, who is definitely a bit stronger than Jotaro.
Speed may be the only factor that Jotaro’s gonna be struggling with but Jotaro can adapt to his fights really well. He’s kind of like Broly, except him being able to adapt to his opponents is not the highlight of his abilities. You see in the beginning of EOH, Jotaro was pretty much the same as Prime Jotaro from the anime, but as he fought Heaven Ascension DIO more, he eventually overcame him in strength and speed and got the same powers, all because of his adaptability. So I think Jotaro can just adapt to Deku’s speed in just a matter of trading fists a few times.
Also Jotaro is significantly smarter than Deku. He is a marine biologist which is already a relatively hard job to achieve and he can outsmart DIO really well in a fight.
So here’s how I think it’s gonna go down. Jotaro and Class 1A spawn right next to each other, they all try to swarm Jotaro, but Jotaro would just stop time and get eliminate everyone except Deku, Bakugo and Todoroki, seeing as they are the three most durable ones. Then Jotaro would run out of time and try to run away, while he’s running away, the three remaining classmates stare at their dead classmates in shock for like 15 seconds to understand what happened, then Deku would try to chase him down and successfully reach him, but the cool-down for time stop is like 10 seconds so he can activate it again and use the 5 seconds he has to pummel Cringeku to death and then Jotaro is already pretty much the winner, Todoroki and Bakugo isn’t doing shit to Jotaro, they are fodder to him.
So in conclusion, Jotaro wins low-mid difficulty. This is just my opinion and I am a huge JoJo fan, but I also know my shit from MHA, I have caught up with it.
Edit: Okay for anyone reading this, this was absolute dog doodoo. Don’t take my advice on what I just wrote here, it was already several months ago when I was new to powerscaling. I’d put Jotaro at large island level tho cus i calced myself that it takes 630 gigatons to damage the ozone layer which is large island level. And I still think Jotaro solos class 1A, but def not the verse in one go. He could take on one by one, but at once there’s way too many country level characters 💀
Please come to the server to explain your point further cause seeing “ diamonds can withstand nukes “ is pretty laughable.
Bigger =/= Stronger in diamonds. In fact it's usually the opposite.
I want what you’re on
look im sorry but those diamonds most DEFINITELY cannot withstand "the strongest nuke on earth" because said nuke has the ap to level out states if not small to mid sized countries, whether you want to believe it or not. And as for the whole "will stand in shock" and all that other stuff about the possible scenario in general, it screams bias. That said, I agree that jotaro imo wins this without that high diff but a lot of ur argument isn't rlly that strong
Take it to a publisher
Jotaro is mountain - island level and is around 1500+faster than light he can stop time and neg durability and the characters can't even see his attacks and he's a genius.
Yeah I don’t think he’s really winning cause star platinum is the one that’s faster than light not jotaro jotaro without stand jumping wouldn’t be able to kill Shigaraki who’s around country level or kill all for one who can regenerate infinitely until he turns into a baby and Deku could also control the speed of jotaro, And if nitro stops time he could probably one shot all those guys but when those 10 seconds end he has to go up against multiple long range characters who could literally one shot him
he said his attack potency is island level, which speed has nothing to do with
Jotaro cannot even destroy the road roller how you expect him to destroy island 😂😂
@@vongolatx4828 someone needs to rewatch jojo
@@PooPooDoggo tell me then where it is shown
I thought we were exclusively talking about Part 3 Jotaro here and not his weaker self for later on. I'm not trying to say that Jotaro would completely destroy the MHA characters or anything, I just think that if we're supposed to be talking about characters at their prime then I think we should exclusively talk about Jotaro from Part 3. Not to mention that Jotaro isn't just punchy boi, he's actually intelligent and can think of crazy plans on the spot that are very likely to work out, also since he can stop time that also means that he can stop time long enough for him to avoid almost any attack.
Not to mention just by going by the fact that nobody who isn't a Stand user would be able to see Star Platinum, this means that Jotaro has a bit of strategical advantage since nobody would be able to to see any potential traps or setups that Jotaro might pull off with Star Platinum. Let's not forget that Star Platinum can phase through solid objects at will and can even grab the organs of other people like when Jotaro used Star Platinum to temporarily stop his heart and when he used it on his grandpa to restart his heart and bring him back from death. As to whether Jotaro WOULD crush the insides of MHA characters as if he was pulling off a Mortal Kombat fatality, I don't personally think it's within his character to do that since he seems like a good person deep down. I just wanted to point out that the option WAS there and it was worth mentioning.
God, if he were to do anything to win the fight, i can imagine the testicular torsion technique being used a lot 😭😭
How can almost the entire Class A even be FTL when OBVIOUSLY they need some speed-type Quirks for that (which all of them except for Deku don't have)? That's nonsence
They all have higher than normal physical strength outside of their quirks. The higher tiers are all able to keep up with and react to Midoriya whos speed scaling is apparent
@@johangodojolo8652key word "react",time stop cannot be reacted to by every Class1A
@@JohnchurrroPolstar i wasn't even talking about anything to do with time stop
Remember talking for jojo characters is a free action. So all he has to do is yell "ZA WORDO" and as long as he talks/monologues time can't resume.
I have a question. Stands can shrink and if I remember correctly able to go through people, could jotaro not use his stand as a shield. It would make it much hared to beat someone with armour that only another stand user could attack
Dude could you imagine a fight between giant The World and Star Platinum? What if Jotaro just became super big and stepped on the world?
All he needs…
So it’s the same type of being as star platinum
There's actually two strange bits of MHA scaling that can jack up the power levels.
1: In the Gentle arc Deku only uses 8% against Base Gentle, but against Lover Mode he goes 20%. Lover Mode is actually said to be a "Tens of Times" boost at its max, and La Brava in her desperation and admiration during that moment would be operating in peak conditions. This means that the difference between 8% and 20% is a tens of times multiplier.
2: Deku goes from needing 5% Full Cowling to rival the speed of Bakugo and Iida, to blitzing Uraraka in base by the AvsB arc. This is impressive because Bakugo and Aizawa are shown struggling with Toga while Ochaco is able to match her.
Edit: you also ignored the clearest example of Island level in the series which is Nine in Heroes Rising.
I’d say he had a small country level feat there cus of the fact that he eviscerated the storm that was way larger than Nabu island as well
amazing video
i agree with the outcome aswell
Destroying the entire Ozone layer over the entire planet which was implied by Donatello saying 'everyone would die' is Multi-continental. Also characters like Rohan who could draw Manga during MiH time acceleration and Notorious BIG have infinite speed that Jotaro upscales from. And MiH was rapidly shortening timestop and growing exponentially faster throughout the fight even then Jotaro would have won if he sacrificed Jolyne. Not to mention phasing is a thing, it was just barely used because it wouldn't on other stands.
Honestly, you are really good at convincing people about scaling. For the longest time i had Jjba at building level tops, but you managed to convince me that all stands that scale to part 3 star plat are small town level. Bravo
Also, the fact that in part 6 Jotaro is stated to be ftl is contradicted by Josuke stating he punches at 80 miles/hour or by Jotaros inability to catch some bullets when he first fought Pucci. One could interpret the sp ftl statement as:"Time stop works by speeding up Jotaro so much it looks like time is stopped"
Except that josuke statement is flat out false and josuke himself admitted he never measured it properly. And jotaro had to move jolyne out of the way in order to deflect all the bullets, which makes sense since his travel speed is garbage.
The ftl statement is clearly not about time stop as the other stands have been proven to be at least ftl with silver chariot cutting hanged man and the light beams in sun stand fight, and also crazy diamond being comparable to red hot chilli pepper who also was stated to be ftl.
Stands have also been considered to be Mountain level, however thats a highball
@@Hatz-xn5te there is a pretty huge difference between ur punches breaking the sound barrier and not. He is a smart kid, he would be able to tell
As for Jotaro, if he truly were light speed he would have had time to beat Pucci enough to shatter all bones in his body in less than 1 second of time stop, then go help Jolyne. Light speed is very very fast
@@sseempire8705 He is fairly smart, but still just can't just measure speed of something he can't see himself (crazy diamond's punches) with his eyes. If you don't understand what I'm talking about then basically it was proven that stand users are slower than their own stands, since it was stated by okuyasu's brother that "Using a stand is like driving a car. No matter how fast one is he can only drive as fast as one can", however jotaro does not have such problems since his stand is automatic. Even then it wouldn't matter since he HIMSELF said that he never measured it properly, and that it's pretty blatant.
And I already explained that jotaro's travel speed is garbage, therefore moving jolyne out of the way took too much of his time. It's also the fact that even physically weak stands like white snake can be ftl, considering that even killer queen was able to somewhat hold up to star platinum.
If this person is convincing you then you're gullible and not smart.
Facts.
There's nothing saying that he's light speed. JoJo fans don't even understand the series as they're horrible readers and you're one of them.
Time stop has nothing to do with speed. Time is needed for speed, so you just confirmed that you're stupid.
Bullets are faster than Jotaro and a SP. They're mach speed, but since SP's base speed is faster than the norm he's able to react and even catch bullets.
If you knew how speed works you would know that one does not need to be faster or as fast as something to react to it, but you don't know any better.
The big thing is Jotaro can’t spam time stop for very long due to stamina like he will tired before his wins I think
Jotaro’s stamina is super fucking human. He may not be able to spam it, but he’ll just having the ability to stop time like Jotaro has far exceeds Deku’s. Man was able to stop his heart for more than a minute and was still conscious 💀💀
Is he gonna talk about Jotaro’s Multi City Level High Empress feat?
Yes and There are more Town Level feats potentially City Level/Island Level scaling
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 ik but I was specifically talking about the High Empress feat
@@青墨Ofc That feat is like the first Town level feat in JoJo
I don't think he really needs to since he scales Jotaro above that level.
@@matthewadams1674 yea I know but it’s one of the feats that are somehow lesser known when I bring them up to my friends
7:57 "Aside from Bakugo and Dekugo"
I think if we consider the lasers to have actual speed of light, and ignore any low end feats then it might seem like jotaro loses, however if we go over some of the anti feats it seems like chances for class 1 A are pretty grim.
While I mostly agree with jotaro scale, the mha speed calc is sorta absurd.
It was shown on multiple occasions that aoyama's laser has properties that normal lasers don't. For example aoyama was able to use them in order to fly which real lasers obviously can't do. And it's also the fact that mina never even showed feats faster than the speed of sound later in the show. For example when she lost to a rat with a crane.
The problem here is that lasers in fiction tend to be slower than irl which makes mha speed feats seem more impressive than they really are.
As for all might feats even if we consider his statement to be completely true and not just an exaggeration, and if we assume that it's true for both strength AND speed, his other speed feats completely contradict the mftl scale. One of these anti feats include all for one stating that it took nerfed all might 30 seconds to cross 5 kilometers, and of course you can make an argument that all might had to fight some nomu on the way there, but it's still not like it took too much of his time.
There's also the fact that the speed of sound seems impressive even for high ranking heroes like mirio, as he was surprised by deku (and that was deku WITH gear shift which is the fastest he can get) being faster than sound, as supported by his statement "The sound was delayed...!?". Another example being edgeshot who is also considered strong in mha verse and is only stated to be faster than sound. And I can still keep on talking about the anti feats, like class A and all might having to use transportation like when they had to take a bus to get to the training camp, but I think the amount of anti feats I presented is enough to make "mftl mha" be out of question. At most they'd be around hypersonic-massively hypersonic.
As for jotaro there's only two things that I disagree with.
First being the fact that silver chariot cutting hanged man speed calc was fixed, and it went from 200x ftl to around 504x ftl. I think calculating it by myself would take too much time but there are multiple calculations of this feat and they can range from 500-1500x ftl.
And also imo jotaro does not have the strongest AP out of all JoJo characters. I think that those guidebook statements only make his physical strength superior to any other stand, but not his AP/DC which I believe to only be around city lvl. Pucci for example technically has universal AP due to universal reset, and jotaro having better AP already sounds beyond absurd. However even with city lvl AP jotaro can still hold up to class 1 A considering how he's so much faster than any of them.
Yappathon
Increased laser recoil implies more mass and speed.
Not less.
@@alexrobinet7576 That's the thing. Lasers and light in general have little to no mass. I highly even doubt that the creator of mha knew how lasers worked.
Why would you assume a modern human doesn't understand light?
@@alexrobinet7576 I'm assuming that a modern human doesn't understand how lasers and light have equal speed, and yet even mina was able to dodge them. Are you trying to say that the same girl who lost to a crane controlled by a rat is faster than light?
And also they almost don't even have recoil.
Reminder: if dio can spam time stop then that means jotaro can spam time stop too
Yeah he can, maybe some trouble with All MiGht but thats it,
Well if timestop is really stopping time and not superspeed then that means jotaro is beyond time and speed, he simply doesn't apply as he is faster than light in an infinite magnitude, and since speed = mass that means he basically can punch things with the mass of stars in his hands, a bullet might be small but it's destructive power goes up the faster it goes
Jotaro still has a definite speed while in time stop. The force of his punch is still just factoring in the speed hes at throwing the punch in time stop. From an outsiders perspective its a punch with infinite speed behind it but whats actually going into the force calculation is his normal punching speed
What you forgot about Dekus strength and speed is that he's using 45% with Fa Jin and Blackwhip to match 100% of All Might.
He could go 100% AND use Gear shift on top of that.
Still doesn't really change the outcome of the fight, i just wanna show what Deku is capable of if he really would start min-maxing.
Without gearshift, 45% + Fa jin and Black whip (short F+B) is 100%.
I just guess that the F+B is multiplicative and not additive.
So it would be a 2,2 multiplier.
So 100% + (F+B) would become 220% at a minimum, if the 100% raw power don't increase the might of (F+B) even further beyond the 2,2 multiplier.
Then we have Gear shift, which i don't really know how to scale.
Jotaro would have to just survive a few seconds before each time stop which star platinum can do against even when against midoriya, at each time stop one would go down, first ones would most likely be either ashino because of her acid with area control and todoroki and bakugo because of their area control
He would have to avoid hazards without knowledge or context.
Some people benefit from timestop too. Like setting up poison gas clouds that would normally dissipate. Decay, barriers, maybe kaminari has lighting in a metal beam and jotaro comes out of timestop touching it.
Soloing an entire verse is ROUGH.
Theres alot to consider.
If you ironically, believe he solos verse, then you’re genuinely a d rider two bullets, and his own life-support
The people in my hero academia can get sent through buildings and get struck by lightning and get right back up
Gigantomachia blows up the general direction Jotardnos in and kills him
i mean if this was johnny or even weather report i could see them soloing the verse 100x times over
though i could see jotaro loosing due to lack of AP but jotaro is massively faster than deku
silver chariot without armour became so fast that characters like avdol who were relative to him could barely see the stand
hol horses bullet dodged unarmoured silver chariot
heirophant green’s emerald splash was able to hit hol horse’s bullets
dio and jotaro reflected the emerald splash
jotaro is mftl
I loved the video but all I could think the whole time is just Jotaro stops time and reps a little kids head off
W take as usual
Great video!
Yes he can
Can u do goku vs mha (not dbs goku but wtv weakest version that could solo)
No one can beats za warudo jotaro
Example
Deku=Let's go everyone!!!!
Jotaro=Star Platinum!
Star Platinum=ZA WARUDO!!!!
Time was stopped
So is going ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA, and then Star FINGA!!!(Stabs Deku)
Jotaro=And the time will moving again
Time is moving, everyone dies. Except Jotaro
ACTUAL re(f)artion
Joe can barely dent a road roller when Deku can literally tear through a building just by swinging his arm, and he gets struck by lightning and bounced off of Cars and the whole verse no diffs *st actual fu*
was shocked to hear that MHA characters are MFTL+, since I thought they were at high supersonic level. regardless, time stop isn't saving jotaro here, especially with the range issue that is capitalized upon with air force and black whip. after seeing this video, I think there's a reasonable scenario where midoriya wins a 1v1 with jotaro
heres the problem is time stop infinite speed? i know it dosent one shot but midoriya just stands there and eats it sure he is really powerful but he is a human
@@kaserl2961No, it's not infinite speed.
@@genblinko7801it kinda is because we measure the speed by how many distance it has travel in one hour so it's immeasurable speed instead of infinite
@@zk-vd6uy Timestop has nothing to do with speed. If it did, he would only be moving at lightspeed (which isn't true, since other lightspeed stands like Silver Chariot were frozen.)
It's a time and/or dimensional ability.
@@genblinko7801 that's why I'm saying you have immeasurable speed when the time is stopped you just can't measure it get it?
0:23 Average is a stretch when, like you said, he looks like a grown ass man!
Yo can you send me the calculation for the ozone layer feat
Still, Deku even at 45% should still be a bit stronger than him and that was 2 seasons ago. Deku’s way stronger now. Although the speed scaling which Lonks did for my green boy was pretty wack ngl. For Jotaro too, that Hanged Man feat should at least put Jotaro at least 2-3x faster than Polnareff as he was able to keep up with him being possessed by Anubis, being bloodlusted and got an amp from armour being taken off. Also the Hanged Man feat from Polnareff should make the French man 1289c imo, he lowballed it way too low
Yess, thank you
Jotaro can literally just grab Dekus neck during timestop
SP can dent a roller Versus Deku getting struck by lightning and sent through buildings
If JoJo fans weren’t mentally ill, they know Deku’s not getting hurt by Sp punches at least not enough to do anything
@@kojoattah3987 What does that have to do with a collapsed esophagus
@@kojoattah3987 what does punching have to do with snapping somebody neck?
@@Mrsmile-by3oi Maybe if you stop and think for 5 whole seconds you’d realize he doesn’t have the power necessary to hurt Deku dipshlt
@@kojoattah3987 oh I'm sorry did I hit a nerve?
I got a feeling that Jotaro only got a chance because of time stop.
Nah but you should use Jotaro from Eye of heaven then maybe I don't
Can you make a video about "Can goku solo My Hero Academia?"
yes, in 0.1 seconds
You get my like. You picked and stuck to a standard of evidence.
Bird boy can see jotaros stand
The big 3 / bird boy / mineta stand a chance but I don’t think the rest can’t do anything
Jotaro cause star platinum to lounge himself to travel and this is so officiant the some people though he started up flys.
So what tell me what's stopping jotaro from stopping time dashing to Deku and crushing his heart cause stands can pass through non stand users
But can jotoro beat yuske urameshi?
No.
No Yusuke stomps
We can compare star platinum with stone free who deflected meteors but all mights mountain busting is stronger but it cant hurt a stand
Even if quirks could hurt stands, jotaro can stop time. Hell doesn't even need it since his stand could keep up with silver chariot. Deku could keep up with lightspeed villains but silver chariot is 1500x faster. No my hero character wouldn't notice that they got a beating until its too late
So im curious, what if pucci (on his Cmoon stand, and lets remember that Cmoon can accelerate time, but only on earth) but obiusly not made in heaven, it would be boring and too easy for our homosexual priest, but im curious
1:43 none of those are building level
so as it seems jotaro/star platinum cant beat the hero academia students?
i would have said he can beat some but not all
i Think he couldnt beat deku bakugo shoto momo darkshadow ochaco
but probably froppy mineta tohru mezo tenya hanta
Using weather report to scale off jotaro is dumb. Weather report can remove the ozone layer because of its specific abilities not its physical might like star platinum.
I like characters vs verse, cant wait for something Medaka Box relate, so excited
You know that if you Wank jotaro he's universal?
I don’t care about actual stats and feats, I hate mha so bad I’d say standless jotaro solos
MFTL but can't do stuff he needs to in 5 seconds yeah😂
Exactly. These JoJo fans are ridiculous.
someone really don't understand speed 17% of speed of light is bs
The Mha wins in strenght, and jotaro has speed, i think 1000x mha is kinda absurt at max i would top tier mha to be as fast as light or ftl.
Jotaro being Island level, i dont really know how to feel about it, but sure, whatever i guess. i think does guides where talking about star platinums physical strenght compared to other stand not their AP/DC.
Wrong
Sorry but without plot and morality constrains Jotaro would easily murder class A1 in the blink of an eye, it’s not about AP, it’s about lethality, Jotaro has what it comes down to a incredibly precise FTL time stoping phasing trough organs invisible murder ghost.
Jotaro absolutely solos MHA because hes way faster, even if he isn't stronger. He'd be at the higher end of AP though.
Jotaro can beat mha of of intelligence alone people never bring up experience or intelligence in verse vids
stone ocean is probaly the weakest version of jotaro and jotaro has dura neg
I say "Solo MHA" and I thought you meant the Verse as a whole and like, he's not beating Star and Stripe so no I don't think he could solo MHA
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Someone made a Jotaro VS All Might video.
Since time stop is realistic in jojos, the only Mha characters who can move in jotaros world are the high tiers with light speed scaling ie deku, all might, all for one, shigaraki, stars and stripes
(light speed is the universal speed limit, faster you go the less time passage affects you, till you hit the limit and time stops)
kk but there are alot of characters way faster than lightspeed like pucci who are stopped by timestop
@@chocolatebar6785 okay and who are these characters? As far as I know hanged man is the fastest character combatted by the crusaders aside from dio, and he was beaten by polnareff predicting his movements, he didn’t even experience the world
The time stop is cool and all but if he’s fighting the entire verse who can run miles in minutes and can get sent through buildings and get right back up, he’s not winning against the verse full of people like that
Gigantomachia is enough 😂😅
A lot of people fail to realize Jotaro is a regular human being. That's all he is. Most of his power is directly from Star Platinum, so anything a normal human can't survive, Jotaro very likely couldn't survive.
In a lot of one on ones, Jotaro would indeed win, even without time stop. But if the entire class went against him all at once, he would fall fairly quickly. Jirou alone has abilities that could put Jotaro on the backfoot; remember, he's a *normal human being*. Todoroki could surround him in a pillar of fire, which normal humans would not survive. SP could block one angle, but not every angle at once (which begs the question, would the fire still *burn* him in time stop?). Then dealing with Explosion Murder King himself, who's much more reckless.
Then you gotta remember 1A can work as a team against one opponent; Uraraka puts Float on Hagakure (who'd be naked since she's entirely invisible), and since she'd make no sounds on approach, she could serve as a distraction for SP so another student could get a solid hit in. I don't think SP can see invisible beings, so unless Jotaro can sense her (doubtful since again, he's a normal human being and doesn't have super human hearing last I checked), a surprise attack from her would net a win.
A lot of people fail to grasp how strong 1A is, especially as a team lol. Sidenote, power scaling is dumb, videos like this are just dumb fun, but if you're gonna take it seriously, then you need to think about it seriously instead of 'lol u wrong, jotaro neg diff'. Use your words properly, that's not a fucking argument.
EDIT: A thought. We know 1A can't see SP. But if SP can hurt them, by extension, their attacks and abilities could hurt it without them knowing, correct? SP couldn't just phase through a wall of fire without causing damage to the Stand user (we do see Stand users being hurt through their Stands). And if you say that SP would be unaffected but could still attack 1A, I ask you how that's possible. Would a punch from Deku just phase through SP since it's an "attack"? If it does, then Jotaro would literally have no defense. If SP can block it, it would be able to take damage from the others too, and by extension, Jotaro would suffer that same damage, though not as much most likely.
U do know he can use his stand to defend against attacks as well
You can only hurt stands through soul based abilitys. But they can still Block attacks
@osiris8552 How can they block though? SP is *technically* taking the attack, so how can it take it through blocking? That'd cause chip damage I'd assume. Unless Stands *literally* take no damage except from other Stands (which is kinda fucking busted in VS talks).
Bit of a stretch, but think Dark Shadow could see/hurt SP at all? It'd be the closest thing to a Stand in 1A.
@@Dimumouto It is not really busted, the powers are for there series not for power scaling debates created. Dark shadow is not really a stand, its a Mutation and not his soul, if I remember correctly
@osiris8552 That's why I said it's busted for VS fights; not many modern Shonen use the trope of 'power of the soul' for their characters. But I get ya, though an entirely separate, unrelated to this video thought; could the shinigami of Soul Society see/damage Stands? Since Stands are a manifestation of one's soul and the shinigami are literally dead souls lol.
And yeah, Dark Shadow is an extention of a quirk. Just a simple thought experiment, since it and Stands are kinda sorta similar in some ways.
we need a heaven ascended jotaro 💀🙏
No Mha charajter cen si sands
I don't know why people thought that this is a good matchup, the MHA versus dominating, characters in the second MH A movie were reacting to nine's lasers which means almost every student in class 1A has FTL reaction speed, and then in the second movie Deku was already out running nines lasers anyway, so that would automatically make him faster than light. With the monga, it gets worse because totoroki gets so powerful that he's able to produce a multi-continental level feat with his family making him at least country level, and Deku up scales from these guys and currently in the monga is around star level. Without using overdrive.
Star platinum scales to mftl speeds.
@@Christian-fn4cw still too slow for a lot of these characters here though
@@marvelmaniacs1 deku scales from ftl to mftl. And he's one of the faster characters in the series. Not to mention he couldn't hurt star platinum, and since star platinum can react to him, he wouldn't be able to get to jotaro. Not to mention if jotaro was in a tight spot, he could time stop and leave. And if you wanna say that dekus durability is too high, star platinum can phase through his body and crush his heart.
@@Christian-fn4cw He actually has infinite speed which means that star platinum would basically never be able to hit him. Not only that, but he can actually see Star Platinum since he can see invisible objects. He can also hurt being without a physical body since all might was able to hurt a being made out of energy who couldn't be touched in the vigilance manga, So he really want to be able to do anything.
@@marvelmaniacs1bro I don’t think you know how stands work. Get the meat out yo mouth stop glazing
naw jotaro SOLO'S!
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Jotaro is a perfect counter for shigaraki like bro doesn't have to even touch shigaraki and barrage him to death faster than his regeneration
Wrong.
@@legendarylamar why?
@@lazymoo2587 Dumb question.
1. Deku punches harder than Star Platinum in one punch.
2. Shiggy is too durable.
3. Jotaro is too slow.
4. You're massively underestimating Shiggy's regeneration.
JoJo characters aren't that strong for the most part and you're heavily false hyping such characters. Do better.
Youre acting like jotaro cant just put a hole in deku
lol this guys thinks he weak nah he solos
L video
Time stop is just too op, which is why its bascially never properly utilised in jojo, or he just isnt FTL.
FTL gets thrown everywhere so casually, but it actually is unimaginable fast and if you have 5 seconds to do whatever you want its more than enough to do whatever you want. Light is 300k km/second fast and then multiplay that by whatever the multiplier was.
Jotaro could dig a grave for every student, put them in there, give them a couple hundred of punches, cover them with the dirt, do a prayer and out of boredom decides to do that 10 times again.
Wrong
Time stop is not going to save him from the entire verse
As a fan of both series who prefers JoJo
The stand guides are inaccurate and not to be used for proper scaling. Because of this you have to look at his feets in the show
Fans tend to agree he's around mtn lvl NOT Island lvl based on feats from through out the series
He's got ftl+ speed due to the fact he's faster than silver chariot who out paced a stand made of light (hanged man)
He'd definitely take the w against class 1A but it is still important to get his scaling correct as to not spread miss information
This video is not very greatly evaluated, I am disappointed on your examination.
Jjba fans better not compare this man to Goku ever again💀😭🙏
As a jojo and dragon ball fan I do agree that most of the stands should not be compared to goku the only ones I'd say u can talk about are ger,tusk,wou and d4c LT when it comes to goku
@@cheryllochansingh4831Goku slams
@@DynaMightSoloz Goku does slam but I still think the four stands I state could stand a chance against Z at least
@@cheryllochansingh4831disagreed, stands like WOU, MIH, D4C and even TW OH and SP OH get utterly out scaled through dimensionality, meaning hacks won’t work on goku, I don’t need to explain the rest and anyone saying other wise about this has never scaled goku or dragon ball cosmology.
@@abhaypatel605 You can argue that canon JoJo reaches 5d dimensionality through guidebook statements saying that tusk transcends love train's barrier of infinite dimensions but that's obviously not what the video is about.
Jesus no one likes it when mha gets love everyone starts crying there eyes out 😂
You said Jesus... is that a JoJo reference?
@@neos9742 Jesus……as in Jesus Christ.
Sorry man I’m not a homosexual I don’t watch gay cartoon porn 🙏
Jotaro solos ngl
L + ratio + bad take + cringe + so its the same type of stand as star platinum
Shigaraki alone is enough, let alone the entire verse
Here is a Jotaro VS All Might video:
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"The flow of things... This is about you standing up from that chair. Perhaps you'll stand up intending to pursue me. I am Wonder of U. The flow of things will always lead to calamity."
Bro said jotaro loses to deku and class 1 A💀 lil bro forgot his pills.
Since you seem confident go debate him seems like you have the time with the multiple comments you left.
@@Jsipki265 you think I care about Lil bro that much? Does he even have a discord or something?
@@error-4269 yes. Check the description.
@@DimumoutoThan- no not with that profile picture.
@@error-4269He does in the description. Go prove if you think he’s beneath you.
bruh ofc he can, MHA so weak af
Jotaro solos neg diff
I wouldn't say neg diff
@@thescarletking3301 he could stop time reach inside their bodies and crush their hearts or brains and they wouldn't be able to react to it.
@error-4269 Sure, but he only has 5 seconds, and he can't spam it
And beating a "verse" involves beating every single person in that universe
So, 5 seconds isn't gonna cut it
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@thescarletking3301 You don't know jack shit.
Jotaro can stop time for 9 seconds, not 5, he was only stuck a 5 because of Puccis power.
And on top of that, Star Platinum is light speed at base, which means it would be light speed while in stopped time.
Which means Star Platinum should have no problem one shotting every MHA member before his time stop runs out.
Jotaro loses to all might by himself. He only stops time for 8 seconds at most. 10 if im being generous.
There's too much characters for jotaro to even solo and none of his punches would actually work on someone like All Might who's just straight up more durable.
Also imagine thinking any Jojo character is light speed. He gets blitzed by Todoroki.
He loses to many characters within MHA in just a 1 v 1. Again imagine thinking he can solo.
Todoroki can freeze or burn him from a distance and there's nothing Jotoro can do about it. Stoping time for 5-10 seconds isn't going to help in the long run.
Star Platinum is a melee ranged fighter, which is a massive disadvantage in Shoto's favor at that.
The scaling in this video is awful, an made no sense at all 🤦🏼
I like jojo better so Jotaron neg diffs