Excellent presentation, thanks. An enigma indeed…..Bullied’s modifications appear to have done the trick, but all too little too late, congratulations to the various crews in preservation that have got the best out of her.
An excellent bio of a great locomotive, answering many technical questions in an eloquent and easy-to-watch format. Now it is clear to see this engine's place in the evolution of subsequent British classes. It certainly had its place and played its part. It can now be seen where the Royal Scot and subsequent designs can trace their inspiration. Great video. Thanks.
Hi, Thanks for this and the reason I liked it was I have Lord Nelson on my oo scale train set and it is a striking loco even when that small and as it is a sound one it does sound uniquely different from my other steamers so it was great to hear the history on it and I do hope it gets it refurb as it so richly deserves it and your super film was a pleasure to watch well done. Please keep safe and well, Cheers Robert
I also have Lord Nelson on my OO gage railway in the BR green livery and it also looks stunning when I run it with some BR green mk1s and some other greens and I also put pullmans on it too and it also looks stunning with them!
In my opinion, the SR Lord Nelsons (along with the Schools class) are by far one of my favorite locomotives from the Southern Railway that was designed by Richard Maunsell.
I have a memory of riding behind Lord Nelson from Alton to Alresford to my Driving Experience in 2012 Lod Nelson got me there on time before 1pm I hope my next experience I get to drive and fire Lord Nelson if she goes main line again I'll be happy to join the support crew for the loco
I recall reading that when this loco was based at Carnforth for mainline operation, this loco was considered one of the best. Whatever steaming woes they had when first built, the LeMaitre exhaust and cylinder mods must have been effective.
Thanks Great Video very informative, i did see Lord Nelson on its last run on the mainline at Ashford must have been 2009 or there abouts a big surprise as i wasn't expecting to see a steam loco a out 6.oclock in afternoon while waiting for my train back to Orpington but great to watch this magnificent beast and not long after that it all went Pearshaped for the loco and had loads of problems and was taken off mainline dutys, but have seen it a few times on the Mid Hants so hope to seen again in the future.
A good presentation. I’ve travelled behind and shot some footage of Lord Nelson on the Watercress, and the 8 per revolution is one of the most noticeable features audibly. The trial gas turbine was a bit ahead of the times, given that quite a bit of our mains power is generated via them at present - over 50% at the time I typed this comment! That said, the point was made that they are not good at variable output, and of course the ones at places like Didcot B are actually combined cycle gas and steam turbines - but they are pretty efficient at steady output.
I read in one of my railway magazines the story of a Lord Nelson class arriving at Woking one morning and a group of umbrellas and bowler hat pin stripe brigade besieged the cab of the Nelson after marching off the train and complaining of the freezing cold interior of the coaches, the driver replied…‘look!! I can give you heat or I can get you into Waterloo on time but I can’t do both!!’…such were the vagaries of the steam production of the class.
i found this very interesting because it's about 850 Lord Nelson as i did not know that this engine was built in the same year that my Grandma was born and was withdrawn in the same year my Mum was born as she was born on 26.12. 1962
Locos Of The Line - 850 'Lord Nelson'Eleventh of a series of films that looks at the locomotives of The Watercress Line. This is the story of 850 'Lord Nelson'. As a bonus, we also Mid Hants Railway 'The Watercr love louis shirley
From my few years on the MHR as an apprentic I have some very fond memorys of Nelly. I've been lucky enough to help maintain the engine and operate it. Really should move back down to that end of the country :D
Could you elaborate on the 4 cyl. layout more, I.E. the crank axel & valve gear, maybe pictures from the erecting floor. Hats off to you for excellent videos from Northwestern Pennsylvania!
Think of it as four sets of walschaerts valve gear. two sets of valve gear on the outside of the frames and two sets on the inside. Also if I have remembered this correctly the outer cylinders were connected to the center driving axle and the inner cylinders were connected to the forward driving axle. Due to how the crank axles were set up the loco produced 8 beats per revolution instead of the normal 4 that other 4 cylinder loco's produced.
I really don't understand this competition thing between the GWR and the Southern. I mean for prestige, I get it. But if say you lived in Swindon and needed to get to Bristol, you could only travel on the GWR, and vice versa, if you lived in South London and needed to get to Brighton, you had no choice, you'd have to travel on the Southern. Granted they did overlap on the main routes to the west but for the vast majority of the subsidiary routes you were stuck travelling under 1 company. It just seemed kind of pointless spending thousands and thousands publicising your brand when most of the time you didn't really have much choice which rail operator you went with.
Excellent presentation, thanks.
An enigma indeed…..Bullied’s modifications appear to have done the trick, but all too little too late, congratulations to the various crews in preservation that have got the best out of her.
An excellent bio of a great locomotive, answering many technical questions in an eloquent and easy-to-watch format. Now it is clear to see this engine's place in the evolution of subsequent British classes. It certainly had its place and played its part. It can now be seen where the Royal Scot and subsequent designs can trace their inspiration. Great video. Thanks.
Keep these vids going , so good!!
hear hear . love the mid hants railway . god bless you lads from wigan . still in lancashire
Hi,
Thanks for this and the reason I liked it was I have Lord Nelson on my oo scale train set and it is a striking loco even when that small and as it is a sound one it does sound uniquely different from my other steamers so it was great to hear the history on it and I do hope it gets it refurb as it so richly deserves it and your super film was a pleasure to watch well done. Please keep safe and well,
Cheers Robert
I also have Lord Nelson on my OO gage railway in the BR green livery and it also looks stunning when I run it with some BR green mk1s and some other greens and I also put pullmans on it too and it also looks stunning with them!
Very informative. Thanks. Always had a soft spot for the Lord Nelsons.
In my opinion, the SR Lord Nelsons (along with the Schools class) are by far one of my favorite locomotives from the Southern Railway that was designed by Richard Maunsell.
I have a memory of riding behind Lord Nelson from Alton to Alresford to my Driving Experience in 2012 Lod Nelson got me there on time before 1pm I hope my next experience I get to drive and fire Lord Nelson if she goes main line again I'll be happy to join the support crew for the loco
I recall reading that when this loco was based at Carnforth for mainline operation, this loco was considered one of the best. Whatever steaming woes they had when first built, the LeMaitre exhaust and cylinder mods must have been effective.
Like you Will , I also passed out as a driver on this loco in 2012. And again can’t wait to see it running again.
I think I was your cleaner that day 😅
@@WillStratford I think you are right. Alex Taylor was the fireman. Bob Deeth was assessing. Fantastic day.
Thanks Great Video very informative, i did see Lord Nelson on its last run on the mainline at Ashford must have been 2009 or there abouts a big surprise as i wasn't expecting to see a steam loco a out 6.oclock in afternoon while waiting for my train back to Orpington but great to watch this magnificent beast and not long after that it all went Pearshaped for the loco and had loads of problems and was taken off mainline dutys, but have seen it a few times on the Mid Hants so hope to seen again in the future.
This is so impressive. This should be on TV. Well done mate.
Nobody would dare put this on mainstream TV now ... far too technical, and no mention of the evils of slavery.
A good presentation. I’ve travelled behind and shot some footage of Lord Nelson on the Watercress, and the 8 per revolution is one of the most noticeable features audibly.
The trial gas turbine was a bit ahead of the times, given that quite a bit of our mains power is generated via them at present - over 50% at the time I typed this comment! That said, the point was made that they are not good at variable output, and of course the ones at places like Didcot B are actually combined cycle gas and steam turbines - but they are pretty efficient at steady output.
I read in one of my railway magazines the story of a Lord Nelson class arriving at Woking one morning and a group of umbrellas and bowler hat pin stripe brigade besieged the cab of the Nelson after marching off the train and complaining of the freezing cold interior of the coaches, the driver replied…‘look!! I can give you heat or I can get you into Waterloo on time but I can’t do both!!’…such were the vagaries of the steam production of the class.
Oh this is awesome. Please do one of the 9fs
Fantastic engine
So what’s the news on its progress today 🤔
A video on the job roles on a loco? and how to get into one of these jobs?
i found this very interesting because it's about 850 Lord Nelson as i did not know that this engine was built in the same year that my Grandma was born and was withdrawn in the same year my Mum was born as she was born on 26.12. 1962
Locos Of The Line - 850 'Lord Nelson'Eleventh of a series of films that looks at the locomotives of The Watercress Line. This is the story of 850 'Lord Nelson'. As a bonus, we also
Mid Hants Railway 'The Watercr love louis shirley
From my few years on the MHR as an apprentic I have some very fond memorys of Nelly. I've been lucky enough to help maintain the engine and operate it. Really should move back down to that end of the country :D
Wait why was there a steam ban In the southern region
30850 SR Lord Nelson 4-6-0 we are waiting for turn next overhaul queue patiently until return to service soon.
Could you elaborate on the 4 cyl. layout more, I.E. the crank axel & valve gear, maybe pictures from the erecting floor. Hats off to you for excellent videos from Northwestern Pennsylvania!
Think of it as four sets of walschaerts valve gear. two sets of valve gear on the outside of the frames and two sets on the inside. Also if I have remembered this correctly the outer cylinders were connected to the center driving axle and the inner cylinders were connected to the forward driving axle. Due to how the crank axles were set up the loco produced 8 beats per revolution instead of the normal 4 that other 4 cylinder loco's produced.
One of my favourite engines, mind you I like a King as well.
Why the clamps around the edge of the smoke box door rather than the more typical, for this country, ‘clock hands’ arrangement in the centre?
Hi I have watched your channel for ages can for locos of aof the line can you do the urine 499 please
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Was just about to comment this!
and the turbomotive too
It would be great to see it sport Maunsell Green when it gets overhauld, as a testiment to the man who designed her.
I hope 850 comes back to traffic soon
I had a cab ride experience in her.
Would be nice if age was steaming for her 100th year but that could be a tall order.
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Footplate Footage can be viewed at ua-cam.com/video/8lYTqoBoDNo/v-deo.html
I really don't understand this competition thing between the GWR and the Southern. I mean for prestige, I get it. But if say you lived in Swindon and needed to get to Bristol, you could only travel on the GWR, and vice versa, if you lived in South London and needed to get to Brighton, you had no choice, you'd have to travel on the Southern.
Granted they did overlap on the main routes to the west but for the vast majority of the subsidiary routes you were stuck travelling under 1 company. It just seemed kind of pointless spending thousands and thousands publicising your brand when most of the time you didn't really have much choice which rail operator you went with.
A good video ruined by the monotenous background 'noise'. Stuck it for 10 mintutes, enough for me.🙁
Err. You seem out of breath?