53808, the 7Fs and the S&D - The Bigger Picture

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • Since this weekend is our Autumn Steam Gala with the theme of 'The Pines Express', we have taken the opportunity to head to Somerset to walk along the Somerset & Dorset railway, talk about the 7Fs and the story of 53808 and look at what remains of the route much loved by enthusiasts. Most importantly we answer the question of just where does the 'Pines Express' fit into all of this?
    Thanks to the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust for showing us around their site at Midsomer Norton. sdjr.co.uk/
    To find out more about the Somerset & Dorset Railway Trust who own 53808 visit www.sdrt.org/
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 43

  • @arthurmatthews9321
    @arthurmatthews9321 Рік тому +1

    If you think 1 in 60 is steep, we have a 1 in 49 at the NYMR. We are probably the only preserved railway in the country that has to bank trains on a regular basis. Some of our engines do struggle ( schools class). But the 9f and the q6 just take it in their stride.

  • @MrDavil43
    @MrDavil43 4 роки тому +2

    I had the good fortune to be on the LCGB rail tour with 34006 and another pacific on 6th March 1966, and I'll never forget it. Sadly, all the friends who I was with that day have passed on, but this video made me remember them as well as that wonderful route over the Mendips. Thanks.

    • @bryjan51
      @bryjan51 3 роки тому +1

      34057 Biggin Hill.

    • @MrDavil43
      @MrDavil43 3 роки тому +1

      @@bryjan51 Thank you kindly. I have some colour slides tucked away somewhere, so lockdown will give me time to look them out.

  • @60103FlyingScotsman
    @60103FlyingScotsman 4 роки тому +14

    one of the coaches they have at Midsomer Norton is one of the coaches that was on the last train over the S&D on March 6th 1966

    • @jaspermarshall3973
      @jaspermarshall3973 3 роки тому

      sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a way to log back into an Instagram account..?
      I somehow lost my login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

    • @warrenoakley589
      @warrenoakley589 3 роки тому

      @Jasper Marshall Instablaster ;)

    • @jaspermarshall3973
      @jaspermarshall3973 3 роки тому

      @Warren Oakley thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now.
      Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

    • @jaspermarshall3973
      @jaspermarshall3973 3 роки тому

      @Warren Oakley it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
      Thanks so much you really help me out!

    • @warrenoakley589
      @warrenoakley589 3 роки тому

      @Jasper Marshall you are welcome xD

  • @tedgoater
    @tedgoater 4 роки тому +3

    around 12.00 into this vid: fireman Pearce on runaway no. 53809 (whatever it's number then) survived, rescuers found he had a pulse. He recovered and continued footplate work, and moved to Birmingham for promotion. Late 1950s his brother Aubrey Pearce was still a driver at Radstock.

    • @WillStratford
      @WillStratford 4 роки тому +1

      Wow I would've definitely had second thoughts about returning after being involved in an accident like that! Guess it shows you can never take the railwayman out of man

    • @owenslanejunction7544
      @owenslanejunction7544 3 роки тому

      @@WillStratford hi will

  • @peterflitcroft9756
    @peterflitcroft9756 4 роки тому +3

    Nice to see Mike Abbott explaining the workings of the Sentinel. Met him up in Cheshire a couple of years ago on a steam powered narrow boat.

  • @LNER985
    @LNER985 4 роки тому +3

    Great video and the 7Fs are good locomotives. Being able to see 53809 on the NNR in action.

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 2 роки тому

    Thanks for giving the 7F and the S&D group a home for equipment after getting the screw from the WSR!

  • @alanpassfield6632
    @alanpassfield6632 4 роки тому +1

    A very interesting video, will visit in due course.

  • @JintySteam1
    @JintySteam1 3 роки тому

    Very good stuff and very well presented as always.

  • @Dave58282
    @Dave58282 4 роки тому +1

    There is also the Gartell Railway running narrow gauge over the S&D just south of Templecombe. I've always been impressed with the fully signalled line there.

  • @Palkia792
    @Palkia792 4 роки тому +1

    We saw you Friday trackside in orange high vis walking near Rookwood lane. :D

  • @markmeyts5272
    @markmeyts5272 2 роки тому

    Fascinating and inspiring.
    I note there is no mention of Shillingstone on the Dorset portion of the line. For good reason - this is the shame of the line. The original project to rebuild the line to Sturminster Newton, is taken over and obstructed by a cabal of small-time politicians with no interest in railways. Their ambitions are limited to a café in the old station building, and 400 yards of track, with nothing much going on. Good for a quiet cup of tea, and no disturbance from trains.

  • @james.black981
    @james.black981 2 місяці тому

    1 in 60 or 1 in 50 isn't too bad. Here in New South Wales, Australia we have 1in33 gradients on our Blue Mountains mainline (still used by regular intercity and freight services) and also on the Sydney Harbour Bridge where the approach grades and around 1 in 33/ 1 in 30 depending on who you reference.

  • @GosportRailworks
    @GosportRailworks 4 роки тому +2

    What they've done at Midsomer Norton is what I'd love to do for the old Gosport Branch using Fort Brockhurst Station, currently it's someone's house but I'd love to buy it and then transform it back into a preserved station to have at least one station on the line back to how it was, I'd prob need to win the lottery first!
    Lovely video on the 7F, not sure if there's an N Gauge model so will have to try and see the real one when I can get the chance!

  • @owenslanejunction7544
    @owenslanejunction7544 4 роки тому +4

    can u do a video doing a tour of both the engine sheds and the carriage sheds

  • @TheSorub
    @TheSorub 4 роки тому +3

    hmm another great imformative video

  • @letsplaytrainsim8216
    @letsplaytrainsim8216 4 роки тому +1

    Will I saw you getting a drone shot of the 4MT on the 16 of October at the gala

  • @owenslanejunction7544
    @owenslanejunction7544 4 роки тому

    i love the 2 tunnels I've cycled through them

  • @johnkeepin7527
    @johnkeepin7527 3 роки тому

    Interesting. I didn’t realise there had been any railway applications of Sentinel steam engines, in addition to their ‘waggons’ for use on the roads.

  • @TheMidlandTerrier
    @TheMidlandTerrier 4 роки тому +1

    Should of mentioned the camlton line passes under the SDJR and how it was the location of the titfield thunderbolt film

  • @gavincarr911
    @gavincarr911 3 роки тому

    Did you know the lickey banker 'big bertha' was basically the exact same engine without the pony truck and an extra driving wheel at the front and a modified boiler plus on extra cylinder.

  • @thomasm1964
    @thomasm1964 3 роки тому +1

    I'm intrigued. How does the mid-Hants determine the revenue and the revenue split when running a "foreign" engine? Do you pay over a monthly sum?

  • @Bugster42
    @Bugster42 День тому

    i have never seen any one explain SR firebox thermic syphons

  • @paulshirley6383
    @paulshirley6383 5 місяців тому +1

    53808, the 7Fs and the S&D - The Bigger Picture
    Mid Hants Railway 'The Watercre love louis shirley

  • @tombrooker523
    @tombrooker523 4 роки тому +3

    45595 “Bahamas

  • @philipnesbitt3334
    @philipnesbitt3334 Рік тому

    Sorry to be pedantic but videos like this need to be accurate. 45596 Bahamas is not a train it is a locomotive as is 53808 etc. They become part of a train when they are attached, as the motive power, to the rolling stock be it coaches, wagons or whatever.

  • @eliotreader8220
    @eliotreader8220 4 роки тому +1

    i have heard that the summerset and Dorset trust had a large argument about Money with the West summerset railway and it has not gone down well and part of it was about 53808

  • @James-ih4gz
    @James-ih4gz 2 роки тому

    guessing the somerset and dorset was closed during the beaching cuts

    • @alfiewenn9440
      @alfiewenn9440 2 роки тому

      yes by lady barabara castle labour mp and transport minister at the time

  • @abrr2000
    @abrr2000 3 роки тому

    16:40 that music as a backing track while someone is talking makes it seem like a corporate training or promotional video. Not sure that's a good thing. kind of feels off in an otherwise entertaining and interesting video.

  • @andyrichards2569
    @andyrichards2569 2 роки тому

    At 6.25 you refer to the 7F design as having walcherts gear .
    I think you will find its got outside Stepensons valve gear .
    Walcherts is a good high speed running gear not something really needed in the or on the S&D Stephensons is not so good at high speed as it has no cushon but it is much superior at low speed smooth traction pulling heavy freights and will run happily at 65-70 mph but not quite so efficiently .
    This is why a 7F could manage the steep gradients with a banker or the pines unassisted invariably it was piloted but it did do it alone on some occasions

    • @stevebarnes2
      @stevebarnes2 2 роки тому

      The 7Fs definitely have Walschaerts valve gear.

  • @colliecandle
    @colliecandle 3 роки тому +1

    The appearance of masks on that engine crew was the only bit of insanity in an otherwise nice little video presentation. Humanity really has lost it's way !