Again, thanks for the video. I appreciate you taking the time to show us what you've collected and how they are used. I was in the Army infantry in Vietnam in 68-69 and am familiar with the equipment you show here.
My Canvas buttpack when I bought it has the Waterproof liner cut out and a missing end tab for a strap but is still in decent shape regardless. My dads Buttpack he used on his WEB gear in the army is fairly used and the liner is in pristine shape.
Your videos and the apparent deep research you've done (on what I've found to be a rather confusing subject due to overlap, replacements, etc) have been very helpful in my search for a better (and larger) butt pack for my bushcraft ALICE belt and harness setup.
Thanks man very helpful.. I happen to live near an army base and many civilians work on the base and bring home lots of surplus gear and I have tons of bags and other gear and the m1961 was one of the bags I got and the straps and their uses where a little confusing and u cleared up my confusion thanks
Oh I wouldn't know about that you can pack alot in there if you know how to do it right. Socks and under clothing are a must in the butt pack foot powder maybe some pocket knives rations mess kit and utensils. Basic first aid supplies and para cord are good to put in it. Para cord is good for lashing but you can cut sections off to make a fire starter.
The EX 54-14 Combat pack (experimental M56 butt pack) had a packing list of Poncho, 1 pair of wool socks, Toiletries, Towel and 1/3 C-Ration However they nver had a specific list to my knowledge but the M67 had one tho. I have yet to do a video about these lists tho.
That's fantastic, thank you! I'm planning a comparison with the British 1958 Pattern web equipment and that will be a great help in comparing the 'butt pack' to the 'kidney pouches'
It's weird, on the inside flap of mine it's labeled 'M1956 COMBAT FIELD PACK' but mines the 1961 model? I'm not sure about it's date, it's really faded
@@armiesofplasticstudios143 that's cool video, personally I thinks a demo bag with the strap wrapped around the H harness or a PRC 77 antenna bag attached to the H suspenders with slide keepers.
FutureJarhead Nope, M1956 had slide keepers that everyone calls "Alice" clips. Just because it was green and nylon doesn't mean it was "Alice" gear. They went through several test mods between M1956 canvas and ALICE nylon gear. Olive Drab site has best list of gear used.
Awesome video, do you know anything about the greek buttpacks? i recently bought a pack advertised as 1961 style Greek US contract made buttpack. it doesnt have an nsn but it has US stamp. after watching the 1961 video, the pack still seems different.
From what I have gathered, the Greek packs were originally US M1961 packs that were never fielded by the army, for reasons unknown, but were sold to Greece to be used by the Greek army. Probably because of the m1967 gear, which upgraded to nylon that was lighter and more durable than canvas in jungle environments.
Lots of dudes showing off gear on UA-cam but not many actually go into detail about all the little parts and purposes. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment!
Again, thanks for the video. I appreciate you taking the time to show us what you've collected and how they are used. I was in the Army infantry in Vietnam in 68-69 and am familiar with the equipment you show here.
Thank you for your support and your service
My Canvas buttpack when I bought it has the Waterproof liner cut out and a missing end tab for a strap but is still in decent shape regardless. My dads Buttpack he used on his WEB gear in the army is fairly used and the liner is in pristine shape.
Your videos and the apparent deep research you've done (on what I've found to be a rather confusing subject due to overlap, replacements, etc) have been very helpful in my search for a better (and larger) butt pack for my bushcraft ALICE belt and harness setup.
Thank you! I'm glad you found my content handy.
Much help...Just bought one was not sure what year...Mine 1961 with waterproof liner...Thanks for review..It helped..
Your welcome!
dude these videos are amazing, thank you for taking the time and going into detail instead of just showing it off. you a real one
Thanks!
Thanks man very helpful.. I happen to live near an army base and many civilians work on the base and bring home lots of surplus gear and I have tons of bags and other gear and the m1961 was one of the bags I got and the straps and their uses where a little confusing and u cleared up my confusion thanks
Keith Lewis I'm glad you enjoyed the video
I picked up the second one at Goodwill for $4.19! Thanks for the video.
Hope you enjoy it!
That was actually really informative. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video, very helpful, thank you.
Cap Camouflage Pattern I your welcome
Good vids. I just got a m61 buttpack, can’t put a whole lot in them.
Oh I wouldn't know about that you can pack alot in there if you know how to do it right. Socks and under clothing are a must in the butt pack foot powder maybe some pocket knives rations mess kit and utensils. Basic first aid supplies and para cord are good to put in it. Para cord is good for lashing but you can cut sections off to make a fire starter.
Nice
Just wondering Nick do you know of any details of what exactly was supposed to be carried in the M-1956 field pack, were there regulation contents?
The EX 54-14 Combat pack (experimental M56 butt pack) had a packing list of
Poncho, 1 pair of wool socks, Toiletries, Towel and 1/3 C-Ration
However they nver had a specific list to my knowledge but the M67 had one tho. I have yet to do a video about these lists tho.
That's fantastic, thank you! I'm planning a comparison with the British 1958 Pattern web equipment and that will be a great help in comparing the 'butt pack' to the 'kidney pouches'
@@RiflemanMoore nice! Sorry it took a while for me to reply to you.
No worries!
Great video/ review, btw do you recommemd buying the complete field gear package feom moore militaria? (Is it a good deal)
kalle olson I sure do, he is a VERY trustworthy salesman
Nick Kochutin ok thanks
kalle olson your welcome
It's weird, on the inside flap of mine it's labeled 'M1956 COMBAT FIELD PACK' but mines the 1961 model? I'm not sure about it's date, it's really faded
Early M1961 butt packs had the same M1956 stamp for some reason.
Is the waterproof liner that seems to trap stuff under neath worth keeping in the way, really?
I never use it, I just roll it up and it keeps it out of the way.
I've seen some footage from vietnam of a guy using an m1956 buttpack adapter
Nice, do you happen to have link to it? I'd like to take some screenshots of it.
Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/3mF0doh7MBc/v-deo.html
It seems to be at 0:59
@@armiesofplasticstudios143 that's cool video, personally I thinks a demo bag with the strap wrapped around the H harness or a PRC 77 antenna bag attached to the H suspenders with slide keepers.
@@collectornick4270 my bad, I just thought it was something cool to share
@@armiesofplasticstudios143 yeah and they picked a really good song too.
People shun the word Alice for Vietnam it was the Alice pack that wasn’t used the Alice system was use aka “slide keepers” are Alice clips
FutureJarhead Nope, M1956 had slide keepers that everyone calls "Alice" clips. Just because it was green and nylon doesn't mean it was "Alice" gear. They went through several test mods between M1956 canvas and ALICE nylon gear. Olive Drab site has best list of gear used.
Hmm
Also do you know if first cav used them?
Yes they used them.
What are the volume in term of liters for both bags?
I guess about 5 litres
Do you know when the m61 was phased out?
Later 70's
I've always wondered the purpose of the terrible odd closure system?
Was the m56 a combat bag?
Field pack
@@collectornick4270 Ok thanks.
How do i attach my entrenching tool to m1961 buttpack
To the handle of the butt pack.
With the slide keepers or m1910 hooks
Awesome video, do you know anything about the greek buttpacks? i recently bought a pack advertised as 1961 style Greek US contract made buttpack. it doesnt have an nsn but it has US stamp. after watching the 1961 video, the pack still seems different.
Brian Brewer unfortunately I do not know a lot about greek M56 styled gear or why they have US stamps
From what I have gathered, the Greek packs were originally US M1961 packs that were never fielded by the army, for reasons unknown, but were sold to Greece to be used by the Greek army. Probably because of the m1967 gear, which upgraded to nylon that was lighter and more durable than canvas in jungle environments.