I just wish you didn't have to kill the Nightsong to be a true Shar follower! I think I'm just incapable of going full evil playthroughs... Somehow I'm able to kill everyone in the Grove, but kill Aylin? Nope 😅
Light cleric is the big one for me, the huge aoe they can pull off consistantly that doesnt hurt allies is insane and the flare reaction protection is a huge damage mitigator.
When you get toward the end game you can also use the Headband of Intellect and take a single level of Wizard to give you the ability to scribe any Wizard spell you want to fill out your spell list
@@jarrodbright5231you can. But it it is not known if it is a bug ir intended. (Could be patched). Also your wizard prepared spells will be limited to your 1st lvl + int modifier
@@jarrodbright5231 I dont find it needed on cleric cause their spell list is already solid, but loved the one level wiz dip on my moon druid. One level Old one dip for melee char is also great due to the fear on crit, was insane on my sword bard.
Felt like my 7 Oathbreaker/5 Great Old One that embraces illithid powers was just the perfect main character for the game that fit the story and setting so much. I've yet to play as anything more satisfying, 9 swords bard/ 3 thief rogue comes close tho.
@@wickeddrac7489 the reason why people do 7/5 is because, currently in BG3, the extra attack from Pact bound weapon and the extra attack from paladin level 5 stacks. People assumed it was a bug, but it is a bug that was never fixed. Call it a feature at this point.
I made Asterion an Assassin for his subclass and he’s so good at starting off fights. With his initiative he basically gets 2 free sneak attacks, one of which is a guaranteed crit.
I like to treat multiclassing as a symbol of character development. Started as a ranger and as the hunter became the hunted (due to the artefact), he played the uno reverse card on his chasers and went gloom stalker in order to remain the first to strike in his encounters. After the party traversed the underdark, he dipped into the rogue class to further hone his abilities to using the shadows to his advantage and so on. 😊
Well now I know what build I'm using on my next playthrough lol. Seriously awesome concept, and a powerful build too! Should start coming online at the right time as well depending on when you explore areas, I'm almost always around level 6 going into the underdark, so that would line up quite nicely!
I'm still on my first playthrough of the full game and went for Wild Magic Sorcerer. I don't generally like Sorcerers, but I went with the whole hero without a past idea. So, Dark Urge Wild Magic Sorcerer. Unfamiliar about his magic, unfamiliar about is past, let the madness happen! There is a lot of madness involved in the Wild Magic subclass. It's hilarious.
I love the Gloomstalker Ranger. Bonus initiative, extra initial attack with bonus damage, improved darkvision, stealth as a bonus action, invisibility power, and that's just what you start with. Add some Rogue levels in there, and you can be a stealth-kill monster.
its kinda funny how cleric sounded like the lamest class to me back when i started and it became my absolute favourite class of them all... you could literally do multiple playtroughs as an cleric alone and even without multiclassing (but why would you do that) have an different gameplay experience everytime. best class ever.
@@fanbotbob64I actually have saved that one for when I do a Shadowheart play through, but the videos I’ve seen and re-specking her into a Tempest cleric on my second run makes me think of how the two would work amazingly! Twin spelling haste is also a great way to use your concentration over spirt guardians, depending on the situation…
My first play through was a Tempest Cleric + Storm Sorcery multiclass and she was such a good face character because she could either talk her way out of fights or wreck them with lighting + heavy armor
I turned Minsc into monk/barbarian, and I love this so much. He destroyed Sarevok with his bare hands, it was truly in character. Monk class is fire For MC my first choice is a lore bard with two point in warlock, this way I can play without a long rest for long time. Just blasting through the game
I did a Beast Master Ranger and Beserker build for Minsc (I believe it was 7 / 5 each,) and I can confirm it was a whole lot of fun. That to me feels the most "in-game" representation of Minsc based on his Beserker-Ranger subclass from BG1 and 2. (I also gave him the Gauntlets of Strength to be more like the Minsc we see in his first cutscene.) Having an added bear tank to go alongside his hamster feels just right. I'd also recommend playing a Great Old One Warlock (Pact of Tomb) / Assassin Rogue build as there is a lot of fun synergy to be had with the way the assassin subclass can apply to things like Eldritch Blast, especially on a Dark Urge run.
@@SpartanWolf222 I went with a full party of ranged archers in PF:WotR, just for shits n giggles. Most mobs didn't even get to move before they bit the dust, much less get close to me! :D
Making your player character a Charisma class is definitely beneficial, but one thing BG3 does that I like is the many opportunities to use class-specific interactions in conversation, which often comes with either using an ability that you're more likely to be proficient in (Monks get a lot of insight checks which are wisdom based) or will give advantage (Barbarians got a lot of opportunities to use intimidation with advantage) So the game is more flexible around your choice than at least I expected it to be.
Morty, how is it that you knock it out of the ballpark with every single dang video you do? They're always fun and informative. I truly love watching your stuff man. Thanks a million! 🤩🤩🤩
Playing a swords bard on my first playthrough and loving the class/subclass. Aside from hilarious moments like singing to a Necromancer’s Tome, you have an answer for everything. Need crowd control? Take your pick of spells and abilities. Damage; weapon or magic? Heals and buffs? They got some of that too. The hardest part is deciding what to take at character creation and level up.
Chaotic Neutral/Evil Tempest Cleric of Talos is my ideal nutcase build. Religious zealot that's quick to anger, takes every opportunity to destroy inanimate objects and offers morally questionable blessings to those in need.
Throwing Berserker is incredibly strong too and hilarious. It's carried by gear and Tavern Brawler but you can effectively kill 2 enemies in 1 bonus action by frenzy throwing enemy A at enemy B.
Throwing beserker + fling ring + returning pike is too OP too early on ...makes me actively leave karlach at camp just get a tiny bit of tactician difficulty back up.
Lol I changed Asterion to a college of swords bard/ rogue and Shadowheart to a tempest cleric and mained a monk/sorc way of the elements weirdo (that doesn’t really do reliable dmg but is super fun to play) and have been having a blast with that play through. BG3 really does offer so much versatility. I’ve never played D&D, I just sort of fumbled my way to some fun things that ended up similar to a lot of what was mentioned here
College of Swords is one of my favorite subclasses both in BG3 and in tabletop just because it is by far the subclass with the most options to approach any situation with.
Fiend is easily my favourite choice on a warlock, but I'm yet to try a crit build for great old one. Made Wyll into a paladin/bladelock multiclass during my first run (I've played a lot of 5e and figured it'd be good here too), and the amount of times that extra temp hp saved my life was more than you'd think. Often he'd get a kill, take a couple hits and end up on
Great old one warlock was my first 5e character I brought all the way to level 20. Was extremely fun from an RP side going hard into illusion. I understand why certain spells would be difficult to implement into a video game, but I miss being able to kill a BBEG by making a fissure seem like solid ground and luring them over it.
I did play a college of swords bard, and it was very powerful. Using dual crossbows along with illithid powers made her play like a fantasy John Wick, way more damage than i expected. The accuracy bonus battle masters get is very nice too!
I made my main character an enchantment wizard, thinking I didn't want to powergame it too hard and play a 'weaker' spec... then found out it's totally broken being able to twin cast enchantment spells... 2 dominate persons for 1 spell slot? I basically made every fight a 4 or more vs 0 with the amount of CC I could put out
I love Great Old One Warlock. In Act 2, there is a certain interaction where it says my patron is excited about what's behind a certain wall. Knowing I was a Great Old One Warlock, that statement alone scared the shit out of me. It encouraged me to do something unusual, and that revealed large plot elements pivotal to the entire game. It also dislocated my shoulder until the next long rest, but frankly that's a small price to pay considering the sheer scale of what I learned and how it impacts the plot.
@@yamabshi So in the first room of Moonrise towers when you enter through the front gate, on your left you have a ladder going up into the rafters above the rooms. There are some wooden beams on the left you can jump towards. Follow those beams and you'll find a cracked wall you can interact with. I'll spoil the rest after a couple of enters if you really can't find it, it's a good thing to find on your own and there is something of a reward. . . . . . . . . . . . . . So you notice flesh behind the wall, wriggling through the tower. If you're a normal class, your companions will comment on how gross it is. If you're a Great Old One Warlock, you get a message that "your patron is excited about what's behind this wall". So if you reach into the wall, and use the new option to not fight back against it, you'll get a special cutscene with the Absolute herself, telling you she is held against her will by the chosen. You will also be pulled into a giant fleshy area beneath Moonrise, with a Tadpole on a corpse and a glimpse of what you encounter later after the first fight with Ketheric. You can get that cutscene as well on normal classes if you choose not to wriggle your hand free from the wall, but the Great Old One Warlocks are the only one who get a message encouraging them not to break free.
4 rogue (thief) / 5 Ranger (Gloomstalker) / 3 fighter (battlemaster) is one of the scariest characters I've built in this game so far. The damage it can output with 2 hand crossbows is just insane.
I love my pact of the blade warlock and i love how the gears support it. Pact of the blade with duelist's prerogative, ring of arcane synergy, the hat that raise your charisma up to 22, potent robe, strange conduit ring. She can deal up to 100 damage per turn with potion of speed.
I have a blade pact warlock multiclassed with oathbreaker paladin (because aothbreaker adds your charisma modifier to damage) with hellbeard halberd diadem of arcane synergy Great weapon master and elixir of hill giant str, helldusk gloves hits for like 45 dmg per attack WITHOUT adding smite. I did 350 dmg to raphael with my lock with just him in one turn. Raphael didn't last very long.
The hexblade doesn't make sense to me lorewise. I see the GOO as the original warlock acting almost as priests of these cosmic entities. Fiend and Archfey copied this. In BG3, hexblade was basically folded into Pact of the blade... And that makes... So much more sense imho. I much prefer the pacts as they are in BG3 instead of DnD5e. Other warlock subclasses I am not too fond of are Celestial warlocks as celestials have clerics, the Genie subclass as it is weird... And the Fathomless one as although one of my favourite thematically, I also think it makes sense as a subclass for the GOO warlock that serves someone like Thardizum. Getting power from a creature of the Abyss as a boon from your patron.
@@rowanl3059 yes... But thematically I am not sure how it fits with a warlock. Like you get your power from a Djinn? How does that work? Djinn's are not that powerful. Does your patron wishes for you to have power?
Enjoyed the video and that you talked about the phenomenal RP aspect of Warlock. I have 2 extra favs... Throwzerker on Karlach, returning pike early and then the power spike later when acquiring Nyrulna is chef's kiss. And the other is a very specific Drow Circle of Spores druid. Dex-based build, super efficient dmg per turn with hand crossbows and halo of spores, create chokes with spike growth or moonbeam. Ice Storm later for aoe control. It's a jack of all trades alternative to Swords Bard. Main downside is no Counterspell compared to Bard. But probably the most fun early-mid game subclass for me.
My brother swears on respeccing Shadowheart from Trickery to Tempest. I can testify that respeccing her to Light is awesome. Favorite subspec though? Necromancer Wizard. Just insane. 4 flying ghouls from Animate Dead. 5 walking ghouls from Danse Macabre. 1 Mummy from Create Undead (vastly underrated summon BTW). 1 Elemental Myrmidon from Summon Elemental upcasted to rank 6. 1 Deva from the scroll Bestial Communion (obviously this was created for Wizards to learn, not for other classes to use once -- gives Wizards access to Planar Ally without learning Planar Ally, and it happens to be the best one of the bunch for ghouls/mummy thanks to fear.) This is on top of everything else Wizards have to offer. Your small army is enough to solo just about anything with barely any input from the actual Wizard. Oh, and throw in the Staff of Cherished Necromancy for unlimited Necromancy spells (just equip, destroy 10 boxes or so, and spam upcasted Blight/Circle of Death/Eyebite to your heart's content. Don't forget about Dethrone for the execute, either! [P.S. If you're rather, you can unequip Staff of Cherished Necromancy and replace with another staff. The free Necromancy spell charges stay; you do, however, lose the advantage effect for necro spells. Dual Wield staves like a boss, imo.]
I've been enjoying Way of the four elements Monk way more than I thought I would. It's definetely weaker than Way of the open hand, but it's so versatile and fun. I can cast spells, use bows and still use my fists effectively (thanks to Tavern Brawler + elixir).
Totally agree with this list. Warlock is my favorite class hands down and it fits my playstyle in most situations; dungeon-crawl minimal rests. BG3 taking Pact of the Blade to the next level with some of the Hexblade bonuses and then doubling down on Deepened Pact stacking with other forms of Extra Attack just takes it over the top. In 5E Paladin is probably the strongest class, but with the changes in BG3 It may well be dethroned. Honorable mention needs to go to the Bard though. They have all the utility of a Rogue, numerous ways to support the party in general, and is all wrapped up with a pretty high degree of variability in how they play. Song of Rest is hugely powerful in BG3 and I feel like any party is at a disadvantage without it. To that end my Tav is a GOO/Swords atm and its a blast to run.
As someone whos been addicted to online multiplayer shooters for the better part of 10 years, i cant put this fucking game down. Im 120 hrs in on my first character, and i just hit the city the game is named after. Just an incredible gaming experience
Light cleric also is one of my favorites, because it gets a couple very good spells even at early levels, it's basically between light or tempest for me depending on if I want fireball at lv3 or call lightning. (Edit: light v tempest also boils down to whether you like having warding flare for disadvantage on attack rolls against you and allies(at later levels) or max damage on lightning spells.
Pretty much played the whole thing at this point..... and...... it is pretty much about min/maxing. Combat is very important. Pretty much all the build videos... even some of yours.... tell people to multiclass with levels of a fighter type class.
Monk/College of Swords has been really fun to play this game with, as a melee/ranged hybrid. I had first intended to make it an elements monk, which visually is amazing with their fire fangs strike that can use weapon animations - bonus fact, it applies to ranged weapons after, so that's a nifty little thing that's just cool. Anyway, in these late levels I've tried Swords bard10/monk2 instead and it is amazing with the banishing smite, along with the mystic scoundrel ring.. a certain trident visually fits this so well too, although i had to go Weapon master to make it work, but really several weapons look so cool with the monk flavour. Stats difficult (12 con :P), unusual combination, but it really evoked the dancing pole weapon master. Anyway... Swords bard ftw!
I'm currently running a Tiefling bardlock on my second play-through. I made Lae'zel just like your showing here but I went with move attack, disarm attack, and counter attack. I managed to miss her the first time and Karlack too! So I'm makin up for lost time runnng both with SH and sometimes Gale. Karlack is also the only character I have immediately liked. Didn't like Gale, ,Will , even Shadowheart to begin with but, they grew on me. Gale I found was an excellent problem solver tho. Really good at chess too.
I'm playing a sword bard right now and at level four with a medium armor, shield, 16 dex, and the defensive flourish I'm up to a 21 AC. I'm basically the tank with Gale and/or Wyll hurling spells from the back line.
I really enjoy my rogue thief\archfey lock 😁 1. rogue with charisma 2. pact of weapon 3. greather invisibility 4. you can use bonus action to get a distance from you pr enemy (if it’s near) to fill him with eldrich blasts 😁 especially with the gear. off hand dagger with silence, main dagger with bane (only with pact of weapon)… two bonus action and silence on off hand 😁
Here is a fun build idea: Wizard 2, Bard 3, sorcerer 6, Cleric 1 The idea: Wizard 2 - You go for divination so you can reroll 2 dice every long rest. Bard 3 - You get bardic inspiration as well as cutting words so you can just interrupt anyone you want anytime. Sorcerer 6 - You take at level 4 the "Lucky" feat so you can reroll any dice you want. and at level 6 wild mage sorcerer you get "Bend Luck" Which you can use to add 1d4 to attack rolls, saving throw, etc. Cleric 1 - You take the light domain so you can impose disadvantage on any attack about to hit you. Welcome to the "Bender of reality" build. If you want to top this, have either halfling as a race so you cannot practically roll crit fails, OR take gomes for their ability to have advantage on saving throws regarding wis, int and char. An alternative is going for githyanki for custom proficiency bonuses based on need or be astarion for the +1 vampire bonus from bites. Welcome!
If you want an efficient tank, go Bear totem barbarian. 1/2 damage on anything that isn't psychic? hell yeah you want a fun barbarian? Wild magic. It's far from efficient, but dear god, the random effects you get when raging...so much damn FUN
I prefer Archfey Warlock, for the starting spells it grants. Tempest Cleric is what I use for Shadowheart as well, I really like the Thunderwave, blasting people off cliffs. my third class is the Berserker barbarian, more specifically, the enraged thrower build, which I use on Karlach, it's so much fun and does massive damage and the last one? the Gloomstalker Ranger. I don't know why, but I've always loved the ranged physical damage dealers in the games I play. the archer rogue in Dragon Age origins, the hunter in World of Warcraft, the Sniper or the Mercenary in SWTOR. it also really seals it for me that the gloomstalker, the archer rogue and the WoW hunter get an animal companion that helps them do damage too. in my current playthrough, I have 4 of these 5. My character players the gloomstalker ranger, Karlach is the enraged thrower, Shadowheart the tempest cleric, and Wyll is the warlock, although, I kept him as the fiend because it's lore friendly.
College of swords is battlemaster with full caster. It's INSANE. Oooh I hadn't realised I can use the flourish on the same target twice. It's better than INSANE
For my first playthrough I played as a Dwarf monk (way of the open fist). There is something that activates deep in my monkey brain when I see a character stroll up and say "I'm going to go punch god." Add to that I'm playing a Dwarf and drunk half the time and it quickly turns into a south park skit with my party throwing my monk a healing potion after he is downed and as he gets up "I didn't hear no bell."
I wish I could have played a celistial warlock in BG3, because I just can't seem to be able to play it in the tabletop... Some DMs just have restrictions, can't blame them for that. :)
Your top four are my actual party! 😂 I did also try the other schools of barding (my tav), but they just weren’t satisfying. Sword bard tav, tempest shadowheart, battle master laezel, evoker gale
IMO, nothing beats sorceror. When you have hasten magic, then cast TWO fireballs in one turn and watch your entire screen become full of ashes... Ya.. Ya, nothing beats that while you laugh maniacly behind your screen, spamming long rest LOL
Battle Master Fighter here. I made a female monster hunter outlander. No multiclass. Only base longsword and heavy crossbow as weapons. Light armor. The only magic I have allowed myself is from items that are not weapons. I play coop with my friend and its super funny to see her use different kinds of magic while I am basically dependent on potions, arrows and scrolls.
5 levels into battle master, take dual wielder, 3 levels into thief rogue for extra bonus action. 4 attacks at level 8 with dual weapons plus action surge for an extra 2. Take trip attack and evasive footwork = dual wielder fighter build with rogues sneak and skill profs.
I legitimately thought that clerics sucked until I tried Tempest Went from Shadowheart doing nothing in my party to being a nuke Trickery cleric got done dirty in BG3, man
So sad that I could never figure this game out. Tried it 4 or 5x and never got past 3-4 hour mark before getting my ass handed to me in the goblin camp. And got stuck there and could not proceed. Wish there was an auto combat or easy mode. Money wasted, for me anyway. Game was just to complex for me to figure out on my own being, for me, a new genre and all. Sad
Battlemaster is amazing. I was disappointed by the rally temp hp duration changed in comparison to the tabletop and how they implemented precision but overal it's crazy good.
I had to avoid Watching the video part of this because.. im not out of Act 1 yet so trying not to spoil myself (playing a co-op game with a friend once a week..why its so slow)
Without any spoilers, did the game actually delv into the background of your warlock having a pact with a GoO or was this just your imagination going wild?
A little dissapointing that you arent encouraged to multi-class subclasses like in pillars 2 or that some subclasses that function like hybrids are just bad.
I choose battlemaster fighter as my tav on my first run because i thought itd be fun to just be able to use all weapons and be a the warrior seemed simple and fun! I was right my tav just bashes everything
Lore bard was probably my favourite to play so far. Cutting words sees a lot of use, as does extra proficiencies. And you definitely can't say no to more magical secrets.
Ehhh, they are still good but Larian kinda butchered Cutting Words. In 5e you can use it AFTER an enemy succeeds the attack roll or saving throw. Having to use it preemptively takes away pretty much half of its power just like precision attack. Meanwhile swords bards in this game get to use slashing flourish on the same enemy with ranged attacks, suddenly turning them into the best subclass for ranged builds.
@@evrimenustun9548 pretty sure you cast it qfter the enemy has rolled in bg3 too. It shows what the enemy rolled at the top of the pop up reaction window.
@@saltytattie833 It might have been bugged on my game then because I never got the notification during combat. Oh well, guess it's time to get started on my 30th run to test it out :D.
I think, genuinely, one of my favorite subclasses is Wild Magic Barbarian for Karlach, i dont even notice the class unless its on Her. It just.. makes me happy when she gets wonderful little bonuses and has an affinity for keeping her and her friends safe from other magic effects
7:50 Man the character portrait glitches are getting funky. Never seen that glitch be that extreme. How do you even fix glitches like this? My entire squad just got black background.
Lore Bard with a quick 2 dip into Life Cleric has let me totally dominate in tactician, replacing Shadowheart with Karlach so I can have Lae'zel and Karlach as a tanky wall.
What are your thoughts on Tempest Sorcerer? That’s my first and only character so far, but she’s wreaking havoc. Being able to upcast Call Lightning, and then reuse it for the rest of the fight without spell slots is so strong. I use it with a bloodlust elixir, and I can dish out two call lightning a turn at a minimum. In tougher fights, I have another character haste her, and I use the quickened ability to use a spell as a bonus action. Meaning I can get 4 call lightnings per turn. That just absolutely DECIMATES mobs.
Good call on all of these. The Bard in particular gives me that F/M/T power fantasy from old school D&D CRPGs. In BG3, if not multiclassing, I keep coming back to the draconic bloodline sorcerer. You can do more burst damage, particularly in the late game, with a multi class build. But as early as level two or three, with the right spell selection Twin or Quicken spell can just clear away half of your opponents on round one. And it’s still a powerhouse in the last act.
Changing Shadowheart subclass Trickery to Tempest made her my most powerfull character and making her a full Shar follower made her so awesomee
Yeah trickery is nice in tabletop, but kinda weak for crpgs.
I just wish you didn't have to kill the Nightsong to be a true Shar follower!
I think I'm just incapable of going full evil playthroughs... Somehow I'm able to kill everyone in the Grove, but kill Aylin? Nope 😅
its easier than you think you just gotta click once
Yeah, tempest or life cleric are nuts
Ayo this dude is a heartless murderer
Light cleric is the big one for me, the huge aoe they can pull off consistantly that doesnt hurt allies is insane and the flare reaction protection is a huge damage mitigator.
Yeah that aoe is so strong, similar vein to why Evocation wiz is so good
What I'm running through with my main character in my current game. I've been very happy with the spell list and play of this cleric.
When you get toward the end game you can also use the Headband of Intellect and take a single level of Wizard to give you the ability to scribe any Wizard spell you want to fill out your spell list
@@jarrodbright5231you can. But it it is not known if it is a bug ir intended. (Could be patched).
Also your wizard prepared spells will be limited to your 1st lvl + int modifier
@@jarrodbright5231 I dont find it needed on cleric cause their spell list is already solid, but loved the one level wiz dip on my moon druid. One level Old one dip for melee char is also great due to the fear on crit, was insane on my sword bard.
Felt like my 7 Oathbreaker/5 Great Old One that embraces illithid powers was just the perfect main character for the game that fit the story and setting so much. I've yet to play as anything more satisfying, 9 swords bard/ 3 thief rogue comes close tho.
Went 9/3 same
Ratio OathBreaker Goo lock and agree what a cool play thru it was and powerful
@@wickeddrac7489 the reason why people do 7/5 is because, currently in BG3, the extra attack from Pact bound weapon and the extra attack from paladin level 5 stacks. People assumed it was a bug, but it is a bug that was never fixed. Call it a feature at this point.
@@Ryan-sn3uoit’s intended, and only doesn’t work on honor mode, due to their action restrictions
I made Asterion an Assassin for his subclass and he’s so good at starting off fights. With his initiative he basically gets 2 free sneak attacks, one of which is a guaranteed crit.
I like to treat multiclassing as a symbol of character development.
Started as a ranger and as the hunter became the hunted (due to the artefact), he played the uno reverse card on his chasers and went gloom stalker in order to remain the first to strike in his encounters. After the party traversed the underdark, he dipped into the rogue class to further hone his abilities to using the shadows to his advantage and so on. 😊
Same. I changed shadowheart when she abandoned Shar. To light (of selune) cleric
Well now I know what build I'm using on my next playthrough lol. Seriously awesome concept, and a powerful build too! Should start coming online at the right time as well depending on when you explore areas, I'm almost always around level 6 going into the underdark, so that would line up quite nicely!
250K! Your channel is growing so fast! Happy to see as I think you are one of the best review channels.
I'm still on my first playthrough of the full game and went for Wild Magic Sorcerer. I don't generally like Sorcerers, but I went with the whole hero without a past idea. So, Dark Urge Wild Magic Sorcerer. Unfamiliar about his magic, unfamiliar about is past, let the madness happen!
There is a lot of madness involved in the Wild Magic subclass. It's hilarious.
I love the Gloomstalker Ranger. Bonus initiative, extra initial attack with bonus damage, improved darkvision, stealth as a bonus action, invisibility power, and that's just what you start with. Add some Rogue levels in there, and you can be a stealth-kill monster.
its kinda funny how cleric sounded like the lamest class to me back when i started and it became my absolute favourite class of them all... you could literally do multiple playtroughs as an cleric alone and even without multiclassing (but why would you do that) have an different gameplay experience everytime. best class ever.
Storm Sorcery is surprisingly fun… running in dropping a fireball flying to a ledge above never gets old
Storm Sorcery+ Cleric was so fun. You basically double your movement, combined with Spirit Guardians...
@@fanbotbob64I actually have saved that one for when I do a Shadowheart play through, but the videos I’ve seen and re-specking her into a Tempest cleric on my second run makes me think of how the two would work amazingly! Twin spelling haste is also a great way to use your concentration over spirt guardians, depending on the situation…
My first play through was a Tempest Cleric + Storm Sorcery multiclass and she was such a good face character because she could either talk her way out of fights or wreck them with lighting + heavy armor
I turned Minsc into monk/barbarian, and I love this so much. He destroyed Sarevok with his bare hands, it was truly in character. Monk class is fire
For MC my first choice is a lore bard with two point in warlock, this way I can play without a long rest for long time. Just blasting through the game
I did a Beast Master Ranger and Beserker build for Minsc (I believe it was 7 / 5 each,) and I can confirm it was a whole lot of fun. That to me feels the most "in-game" representation of Minsc based on his Beserker-Ranger subclass from BG1 and 2. (I also gave him the Gauntlets of Strength to be more like the Minsc we see in his first cutscene.) Having an added bear tank to go alongside his hamster feels just right.
I'd also recommend playing a Great Old One Warlock (Pact of Tomb) / Assassin Rogue build as there is a lot of fun synergy to be had with the way the assassin subclass can apply to things like Eldritch Blast, especially on a Dark Urge run.
@@SpartanWolf222 I went with a full party of ranged archers in PF:WotR, just for shits n giggles. Most mobs didn't even get to move before they bit the dust, much less get close to me! :D
I made Karlach a monk barbarian, and it was incredible. She ran at the speed of light and could stun half the world before anyone else got a turn.
For BG3 fiend warlock has been my favorite, it fits the story really well and the high charisma of warlock helps with all of the dialogue checks.
Making your player character a Charisma class is definitely beneficial, but one thing BG3 does that I like is the many opportunities to use class-specific interactions in conversation, which often comes with either using an ability that you're more likely to be proficient in (Monks get a lot of insight checks which are wisdom based) or will give advantage (Barbarians got a lot of opportunities to use intimidation with advantage) So the game is more flexible around your choice than at least I expected it to be.
Its just a lil booty that Wyll comes out the gate a fiendlock tho.
i don't do deals with devils.
@@cosanostra3530 why?
Morty, how is it that you knock it out of the ballpark with every single dang video you do? They're always fun and informative. I truly love watching your stuff man. Thanks a million! 🤩🤩🤩
Playing a swords bard on my first playthrough and loving the class/subclass. Aside from hilarious moments like singing to a Necromancer’s Tome, you have an answer for everything. Need crowd control? Take your pick of spells and abilities. Damage; weapon or magic? Heals and buffs? They got some of that too. The hardest part is deciding what to take at character creation and level up.
Chaotic Neutral/Evil Tempest Cleric of Talos is my ideal nutcase build. Religious zealot that's quick to anger, takes every opportunity to destroy inanimate objects and offers morally questionable blessings to those in need.
Rogue/Thief is fun for multiclassing. Lots of other classes do things with bonus actions and it's always nice to get more of them.
Throwing Berserker is incredibly strong too and hilarious. It's carried by gear and Tavern Brawler but you can effectively kill 2 enemies in 1 bonus action by frenzy throwing enemy A at enemy B.
Throwing beserker + fling ring + returning pike is too OP too early on ...makes me actively leave karlach at camp just get a tiny bit of tactician difficulty back up.
Lol I changed Asterion to a college of swords bard/ rogue and Shadowheart to a tempest cleric and mained a monk/sorc way of the elements weirdo (that doesn’t really do reliable dmg but is super fun to play) and have been having a blast with that play through. BG3 really does offer so much versatility. I’ve never played D&D, I just sort of fumbled my way to some fun things that ended up similar to a lot of what was mentioned here
College of Swords is one of my favorite subclasses both in BG3 and in tabletop just because it is by far the subclass with the most options to approach any situation with.
Fiend is easily my favourite choice on a warlock, but I'm yet to try a crit build for great old one. Made Wyll into a paladin/bladelock multiclass during my first run (I've played a lot of 5e and figured it'd be good here too), and the amount of times that extra temp hp saved my life was more than you'd think. Often he'd get a kill, take a couple hits and end up on
Great old one warlock was my first 5e character I brought all the way to level 20. Was extremely fun from an RP side going hard into illusion. I understand why certain spells would be difficult to implement into a video game, but I miss being able to kill a BBEG by making a fissure seem like solid ground and luring them over it.
I'm a storm sorc and I changed shadowheart to tempest cleric. I'm still early (just started act 2) but together we're zapping everything to death lol
I did play a college of swords bard, and it was very powerful. Using dual crossbows along with illithid powers made her play like a fantasy John Wick, way more damage than i expected. The accuracy bonus battle masters get is very nice too!
I made my main character an enchantment wizard, thinking I didn't want to powergame it too hard and play a 'weaker' spec... then found out it's totally broken being able to twin cast enchantment spells... 2 dominate persons for 1 spell slot? I basically made every fight a 4 or more vs 0 with the amount of CC I could put out
I liked the circle of the spores druid, a concept relevant to the Underdark with interesting mechanics.
I love Great Old One Warlock. In Act 2, there is a certain interaction where it says my patron is excited about what's behind a certain wall. Knowing I was a Great Old One Warlock, that statement alone scared the shit out of me. It encouraged me to do something unusual, and that revealed large plot elements pivotal to the entire game. It also dislocated my shoulder until the next long rest, but frankly that's a small price to pay considering the sheer scale of what I learned and how it impacts the plot.
Friend - could you spoil this for me? I'm doing playthru #4 as a warlock but I have no idea where this wall is in Act 2 🥲
@@yamabshi So in the first room of Moonrise towers when you enter through the front gate, on your left you have a ladder going up into the rafters above the rooms. There are some wooden beams on the left you can jump towards. Follow those beams and you'll find a cracked wall you can interact with.
I'll spoil the rest after a couple of enters if you really can't find it, it's a good thing to find on your own and there is something of a reward.
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So you notice flesh behind the wall, wriggling through the tower. If you're a normal class, your companions will comment on how gross it is. If you're a Great Old One Warlock, you get a message that "your patron is excited about what's behind this wall". So if you reach into the wall, and use the new option to not fight back against it, you'll get a special cutscene with the Absolute herself, telling you she is held against her will by the chosen. You will also be pulled into a giant fleshy area beneath Moonrise, with a Tadpole on a corpse and a glimpse of what you encounter later after the first fight with Ketheric.
You can get that cutscene as well on normal classes if you choose not to wriggle your hand free from the wall, but the Great Old One Warlocks are the only one who get a message encouraging them not to break free.
4 rogue (thief) / 5 Ranger (Gloomstalker) / 3 fighter (battlemaster) is one of the scariest characters I've built in this game so far. The damage it can output with 2 hand crossbows is just insane.
I love my pact of the blade warlock and i love how the gears support it. Pact of the blade with duelist's prerogative, ring of arcane synergy, the hat that raise your charisma up to 22, potent robe, strange conduit ring. She can deal up to 100 damage per turn with potion of speed.
I have a blade pact warlock multiclassed with oathbreaker paladin (because aothbreaker adds your charisma modifier to damage) with hellbeard halberd diadem of arcane synergy Great weapon master and elixir of hill giant str, helldusk gloves hits for like 45 dmg per attack WITHOUT adding smite. I did 350 dmg to raphael with my lock with just him in one turn. Raphael didn't last very long.
The hexblade doesn't make sense to me lorewise. I see the GOO as the original warlock acting almost as priests of these cosmic entities. Fiend and Archfey copied this. In BG3, hexblade was basically folded into Pact of the blade... And that makes... So much more sense imho. I much prefer the pacts as they are in BG3 instead of DnD5e. Other warlock subclasses I am not too fond of are Celestial warlocks as celestials have clerics, the Genie subclass as it is weird... And the Fathomless one as although one of my favourite thematically, I also think it makes sense as a subclass for the GOO warlock that serves someone like Thardizum. Getting power from a creature of the Abyss as a boon from your patron.
I loved the UA Djinn warlock the idea of using connections with your party to cast spells is both amazing in RP and mechanically
@@rowanl3059 yes... But thematically I am not sure how it fits with a warlock. Like you get your power from a Djinn? How does that work? Djinn's are not that powerful. Does your patron wishes for you to have power?
Enjoyed the video and that you talked about the phenomenal RP aspect of Warlock. I have 2 extra favs... Throwzerker on Karlach, returning pike early and then the power spike later when acquiring Nyrulna is chef's kiss.
And the other is a very specific Drow Circle of Spores druid. Dex-based build, super efficient dmg per turn with hand crossbows and halo of spores, create chokes with spike growth or moonbeam. Ice Storm later for aoe control. It's a jack of all trades alternative to Swords Bard. Main downside is no Counterspell compared to Bard. But probably the most fun early-mid game subclass for me.
My brother swears on respeccing Shadowheart from Trickery to Tempest. I can testify that respeccing her to Light is awesome.
Favorite subspec though? Necromancer Wizard. Just insane.
4 flying ghouls from Animate Dead. 5 walking ghouls from Danse Macabre. 1 Mummy from Create Undead (vastly underrated summon BTW). 1 Elemental Myrmidon from Summon Elemental upcasted to rank 6. 1 Deva from the scroll Bestial Communion (obviously this was created for Wizards to learn, not for other classes to use once -- gives Wizards access to Planar Ally without learning Planar Ally, and it happens to be the best one of the bunch for ghouls/mummy thanks to fear.)
This is on top of everything else Wizards have to offer. Your small army is enough to solo just about anything with barely any input from the actual Wizard.
Oh, and throw in the Staff of Cherished Necromancy for unlimited Necromancy spells (just equip, destroy 10 boxes or so, and spam upcasted Blight/Circle of Death/Eyebite to your heart's content. Don't forget about Dethrone for the execute, either!
[P.S. If you're rather, you can unequip Staff of Cherished Necromancy and replace with another staff. The free Necromancy spell charges stay; you do, however, lose the advantage effect for necro spells. Dual Wield staves like a boss, imo.]
I've been enjoying Way of the four elements Monk way more than I thought I would. It's definetely weaker than Way of the open hand, but it's so versatile and fun. I can cast spells, use bows and still use my fists effectively (thanks to Tavern Brawler + elixir).
Battlemaster Fighter + Swords Bard is my favorite combo to make a Devil May Cry character.
Dante, Nero or Vergil ?
pick your hottie 🥵
Totally agree with this list. Warlock is my favorite class hands down and it fits my playstyle in most situations; dungeon-crawl minimal rests. BG3 taking Pact of the Blade to the next level with some of the Hexblade bonuses and then doubling down on Deepened Pact stacking with other forms of Extra Attack just takes it over the top. In 5E Paladin is probably the strongest class, but with the changes in BG3 It may well be dethroned.
Honorable mention needs to go to the Bard though. They have all the utility of a Rogue, numerous ways to support the party in general, and is all wrapped up with a pretty high degree of variability in how they play. Song of Rest is hugely powerful in BG3 and I feel like any party is at a disadvantage without it. To that end my Tav is a GOO/Swords atm and its a blast to run.
As someone whos been addicted to online multiplayer shooters for the better part of 10 years, i cant put this fucking game down. Im 120 hrs in on my first character, and i just hit the city the game is named after. Just an incredible gaming experience
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Light cleric also is one of my favorites, because it gets a couple very good spells even at early levels, it's basically between light or tempest for me depending on if I want fireball at lv3 or call lightning.
(Edit: light v tempest also boils down to whether you like having warding flare for disadvantage on attack rolls against you and allies(at later levels) or max damage on lightning spells.
Pretty much played the whole thing at this point..... and...... it is pretty much about min/maxing.
Combat is very important.
Pretty much all the build videos... even some of yours.... tell people to multiclass with levels of a fighter type class.
never see anyone talk about Wild Magic Sorc, probably cause it's hard to build around but it's by far most fun i've had with a character.
Monk/College of Swords has been really fun to play this game with, as a melee/ranged hybrid. I had first intended to make it an elements monk, which visually is amazing with their fire fangs strike that can use weapon animations - bonus fact, it applies to ranged weapons after, so that's a nifty little thing that's just cool. Anyway, in these late levels I've tried Swords bard10/monk2 instead and it is amazing with the banishing smite, along with the mystic scoundrel ring.. a certain trident visually fits this so well too, although i had to go Weapon master to make it work, but really several weapons look so cool with the monk flavour.
Stats difficult (12 con :P), unusual combination, but it really evoked the dancing pole weapon master. Anyway... Swords bard ftw!
I'm currently running a Tiefling bardlock on my second play-through.
I made Lae'zel just like your showing here but I went with move attack, disarm attack, and counter attack.
I managed to miss her the first time and Karlack too!
So I'm makin up for lost time runnng both with SH and sometimes Gale.
Karlack is also the only character I have immediately liked.
Didn't like Gale, ,Will , even Shadowheart to begin with but,
they grew on me.
Gale I found was an excellent problem solver tho.
Really good at chess too.
I'm playing a sword bard right now and at level four with a medium armor, shield, 16 dex, and the defensive flourish I'm up to a 21 AC. I'm basically the tank with Gale and/or Wyll hurling spells from the back line.
I really enjoy my rogue thief\archfey lock 😁 1. rogue with charisma 2. pact of weapon 3. greather invisibility 4. you can use bonus action to get a distance from you pr enemy (if it’s near) to fill him with eldrich blasts 😁
especially with the gear. off hand dagger with silence, main dagger with bane (only with pact of weapon)… two bonus action and silence on off hand 😁
Here is a fun build idea:
Wizard 2, Bard 3, sorcerer 6, Cleric 1
The idea:
Wizard 2 - You go for divination so you can reroll 2 dice every long rest.
Bard 3 - You get bardic inspiration as well as cutting words so you can just interrupt anyone you want anytime.
Sorcerer 6 - You take at level 4 the "Lucky" feat so you can reroll any dice you want. and at level 6 wild mage sorcerer you get "Bend Luck" Which you can use to add 1d4 to attack rolls, saving throw, etc.
Cleric 1 - You take the light domain so you can impose disadvantage on any attack about to hit you.
Welcome to the "Bender of reality" build.
If you want to top this, have either halfling as a race so you cannot practically roll crit fails, OR take gomes for their ability to have advantage on saving throws regarding wis, int and char. An alternative is going for githyanki for custom proficiency bonuses based on need or be astarion for the +1 vampire bonus from bites. Welcome!
If you want an efficient tank, go Bear totem barbarian.
1/2 damage on anything that isn't psychic? hell yeah
you want a fun barbarian?
Wild magic. It's far from efficient, but dear god, the random effects you get when raging...so much damn FUN
I prefer Archfey Warlock, for the starting spells it grants. Tempest Cleric is what I use for Shadowheart as well, I really like the Thunderwave, blasting people off cliffs. my third class is the Berserker barbarian, more specifically, the enraged thrower build, which I use on Karlach, it's so much fun and does massive damage and the last one? the Gloomstalker Ranger. I don't know why, but I've always loved the ranged physical damage dealers in the games I play. the archer rogue in Dragon Age origins, the hunter in World of Warcraft, the Sniper or the Mercenary in SWTOR. it also really seals it for me that the gloomstalker, the archer rogue and the WoW hunter get an animal companion that helps them do damage too. in my current playthrough, I have 4 of these 5. My character players the gloomstalker ranger, Karlach is the enraged thrower, Shadowheart the tempest cleric, and Wyll is the warlock, although, I kept him as the fiend because it's lore friendly.
Man, I just wish we could get add-on campaigns on the platform of BG3 like we had for NWN... just better. What more would we need?
College of swords is battlemaster with full caster. It's INSANE. Oooh I hadn't realised I can use the flourish on the same target twice. It's better than INSANE
For my first playthrough I played as a Dwarf monk (way of the open fist). There is something that activates deep in my monkey brain when I see a character stroll up and say "I'm going to go punch god." Add to that I'm playing a Dwarf and drunk half the time and it quickly turns into a south park skit with my party throwing my monk a healing potion after he is downed and as he gets up "I didn't hear no bell."
I wish I could have played a celistial warlock in BG3, because I just can't seem to be able to play it in the tabletop... Some DMs just have restrictions, can't blame them for that. :)
Your top four are my actual party! 😂 I did also try the other schools of barding (my tav), but they just weren’t satisfying. Sword bard tav, tempest shadowheart, battle master laezel, evoker gale
IMO, nothing beats sorceror.
When you have hasten magic, then cast TWO fireballs in one turn and watch your entire screen become full of ashes... Ya.. Ya, nothing beats that while you laugh maniacly behind your screen, spamming long rest LOL
Battle Master Fighter here.
I made a female monster hunter outlander. No multiclass. Only base longsword and heavy crossbow as weapons. Light armor. The only magic I have allowed myself is from items that are not weapons.
I play coop with my friend and its super funny to see her use different kinds of magic while I am basically dependent on potions, arrows and scrolls.
5 levels into battle master, take dual wielder, 3 levels into thief rogue for extra bonus action. 4 attacks at level 8 with dual weapons plus action surge for an extra 2. Take trip attack and evasive footwork = dual wielder fighter build with rogues sneak and skill profs.
I legitimately thought that clerics sucked until I tried Tempest
Went from Shadowheart doing nothing in my party to being a nuke
Trickery cleric got done dirty in BG3, man
So sad that I could never figure this game out. Tried it 4 or 5x and never got past 3-4 hour mark before getting my ass handed to me in the goblin camp. And got stuck there and could not proceed. Wish there was an auto combat or easy mode. Money wasted, for me anyway. Game was just to complex for me to figure out on my own being, for me, a new genre and all. Sad
Battlemaster is amazing. I was disappointed by the rally temp hp duration changed in comparison to the tabletop and how they implemented precision but overal it's crazy good.
Having bg3 be the most exposure to dnd I’ve gotten. I am absolutely obsessed with warlocks and eldritch blast.
This was like foreplay. Warlock and Bard hands down best. Now just waiting for that Bard build video. Great content you are on your way to 500k
I had to avoid Watching the video part of this because.. im not out of Act 1 yet so trying not to spoil myself (playing a co-op game with a friend once a week..why its so slow)
Without any spoilers, did the game actually delv into the background of your warlock having a pact with a GoO or was this just your imagination going wild?
When I dive into my second playthrough, these videos will be incredibly helpful! Thank you 🙏
My favorite subclass: murder-hobo. Onward to 300k. All glory to the algorithm.
Who doesn't want to have Cthulhu as their patron? GOO is a good one. But I find lore bard as good, if differently, as the sword bard.
Any class with short rest mechanics (aka all warlocks) really go off in bg3 because of how much control you have over your short rests.
College of Swords Bard was my choice for the 1st playthrough. It is quite broken :D
A little dissapointing that you arent encouraged to multi-class subclasses like in pillars 2 or that some subclasses that function like hybrids are just bad.
My furthest run is a Archfey Warlock/Oathbreaker Paladin, she smites so hard and just deletes all who cross her.
2 Warlock/Rest Rogue, doesn't matter the subclass.... absolutely deletes everything
Battle Master Fighter with a few levels of Wizard or Sorcerer is a way better Eldritch Knight than Eldritch Knight
Looking for a ps5 player with two controllers to help me build a team of four custom characters! I'll help in return
I choose battlemaster fighter as my tav on my first run because i thought itd be fun to just be able to use all weapons and be a the warrior seemed simple and fun! I was right my tav just bashes everything
Made a collage of swords bard simply for roleplaying reasons and i'm pleased to see that i apparently didn't make the wworst decision buildwise
Im a dork, ive always enjoyed knowledge clerics because they just know things
Theres a mod that adds mjolnir and stormbreaker to the game, so as a tempest cleric you can role play thor.
I think the great old one knows about you. As warlock there is a peice of writing where it says your patron doesn't trust someone that is around you
I start most of my characters with a 1 lvl rogue dip because I'm a skill slut. I want them all.
Warlock... that came after my time... yes, I'm a Great Old One myself 😅😅
I couldn't do this list. Monks only have 3 sub-classes in BG3! :D
The battlemaster fighter is just a normal fighter in 4e. It gets a bad rap but dnd 4e is the most fun version
Lore bard was probably my favourite to play so far. Cutting words sees a lot of use, as does extra proficiencies. And you definitely can't say no to more magical secrets.
Ehhh, they are still good but Larian kinda butchered Cutting Words. In 5e you can use it AFTER an enemy succeeds the attack roll or saving throw. Having to use it preemptively takes away pretty much half of its power just like precision attack. Meanwhile swords bards in this game get to use slashing flourish on the same enemy with ranged attacks, suddenly turning them into the best subclass for ranged builds.
I just started a game with one =D
@@evrimenustun9548 pretty sure you cast it qfter the enemy has rolled in bg3 too. It shows what the enemy rolled at the top of the pop up reaction window.
@@saltytattie833 It might have been bugged on my game then because I never got the notification during combat. Oh well, guess it's time to get started on my 30th run to test it out :D.
@@evrimenustun9548It is not bugged. You just have to click the button to make the game ask you if you want to use this as a reaction...
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What you see is pure pain, embarrassement, suffering, torture and acceptance in 3 seconds.
Dragonic sorcerer is my favorite it gives alot of strength right off the bat and becomes more versatile the more you level up
I think, genuinely, one of my favorite subclasses is Wild Magic Barbarian for Karlach, i dont even notice the class unless its on Her. It just.. makes me happy when she gets wonderful little bonuses and has an affinity for keeping her and her friends safe from other magic effects
7:50 Man the character portrait glitches are getting funky. Never seen that glitch be that extreme.
How do you even fix glitches like this? My entire squad just got black background.
When leveling up switch to another class, just click on it without doint anything else, than pick the class you want and level up
Agreed on your 5e thoughts at the start of the warlock section. Totally.
Light Domain Cleric and Oath of the Ancients are Ol Reliable
Lore Bard with a quick 2 dip into Life Cleric has let me totally dominate in tactician, replacing Shadowheart with Karlach so I can have Lae'zel and Karlach as a tanky wall.
Finished the game with 4 battlemasters. Spells are for the weak!
Favorite subclass is the ODB (Ol Dirty Bard)
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I am actually doing a bard build because of this video.
What are your thoughts on Tempest Sorcerer? That’s my first and only character so far, but she’s wreaking havoc. Being able to upcast Call Lightning, and then reuse it for the rest of the fight without spell slots is so strong. I use it with a bloodlust elixir, and I can dish out two call lightning a turn at a minimum. In tougher fights, I have another character haste her, and I use the quickened ability to use a spell as a bonus action. Meaning I can get 4 call lightnings per turn. That just absolutely DECIMATES mobs.
Sorc in general is very strong damage wise thanks to metamagic
I love the tempt cleric but god damm is the light cleric overpowered
I did an oath of the ancients paladin and it was a very good all-rounder
College of swords bard can also work as the party rogue.
No Palladin on the List breaks my heart :D.
Githyanki Tempest Domain Cleric go brrrrrr
2:32 ultra relatable moment in the background gameplay
Good call on all of these.
The Bard in particular gives me that F/M/T power fantasy from old school D&D CRPGs.
In BG3, if not multiclassing, I keep coming back to the draconic bloodline sorcerer. You can do more burst damage, particularly in the late game, with a multi class build. But as early as level two or three, with the right spell selection Twin or Quicken spell can just clear away half of your opponents on round one. And it’s still a powerhouse in the last act.