Yeah your right but for people going above stock power there is a difference.... matching a 1jz revs with a 2 jz is the difference ....... get a 2jz reving with forged Internals is where it's at fuel and boost is the limit kinda
If the rod material is the same, then yes it would be stronger because there is less area to flex. Same goes toward an inline 4 cam vs inline 6 cam, the longer inline 6 cam will be more prone to flexing.
I'm no car person, but a few months before this, a youtuber car builder was convinced to put a 1J in his wifes car for drifting purposes. It sounds really good and she's getting really good.
I drove a factory standard 1jz in a Soarer and was struck by its incredible smoothness, i remains the only motor I’ve experienced that is as smooth as a 1uz which I chose because I’m a V8 lover(apparently the jz is heavier than the uz?) I’m learning that Toyota’s mission to reduce NVH is parallel to it’s mission to build reliable engines. My thinking is that these motors being so smooth goes hand in hand with their strength. Almost like they don’t rub and shake themselves to bits because they don’t rub and shake. So much smoother than any other engines I’ve experienced. They’re the first engines I’ve called beautiful and I never even knew combustion engines could be this smooth.
Nabil Birouk But of all inline 6s the JZs are the smoothest. Drive the smoothest 6 you’ve ever driven then drive a properly running JZ with a factory exhaust and you will feel the difference. Also somehow the UZ V8s are as smooth as the JZ 6s. If you haven’t had a go at these amazing Toyota motors then do yourself a favour.
Cast iron block vs Aluminium if I recall. Makes a huge difference and probably why Toyota never used them in any racing capacity outside of their Le Mans entry Supra.
I have a 2JZge built in my Lexus. It works like a clock, with no shake and rattle. It's impressive how smooth and linear the power delivery is. Funny fact, sometimes, I bring the car to my car repair shop, when I sense the first ratttles on him. One time even before the check engine light got on. Because whatever motion a 2JZ starts to have, is a sign for a problem with injectors or the ignition coils. It's always those two. The rest never breaks.
The 1jz vvti is an absolute torque monster dude, it has tons of torque down low. I can accelerate uphill in 5th gear at 2000rpm part throttle and out of boost in my 3700lb chaser. I can floor it on the highway going 90kms n hr in 5th and be in boost instantly. I get full boost before 2500rpm and the car hauls ass until around 6500 where it dies out a bit until the 7200rpm limiter. Cams, and a slightly larger stock position turbo with a standalone ecu should see this motor to 350whp, probably equal torque figure, with a similar looking powerband but full power out to 7500rpm.
One things is for sure, companies are making power out of their engine every time, reliability is its twin. Overkilling its parts for reliability. Later in years, people/builder both from the company and customers finds that a particular engine is kind of strong as they imagined. Now cross cutting comes to play. I'm not saying that first gen engines are greater that the later ones, I'm just pointing out about how most of us desires of power made us hungry. This is subjective, just my opinion if its just okay to give one.
Interference engine vs no interference engine. 2JZ without vvti is easyer to tune and doesn't shatter itself to bits when somethings goes wrong with the timing belt. The real difference is on the highway. You can eco drive a 2jZ vvti pretty well (29 mpg for me, please notice that this number is achieved with revised geometry). The non vvti not so much.
The part I've always hated,was ignorant trolls assume a 1j is a piece of 💩 simply because it isn't a 2j😆!! One day,I would love a 1gz swapped Chaser! A 1GZ can be seen as a pair of 1jz's. Love you,man.
How to solve the 7mgte problems: replace head gasket with a MHG (metal head gasket) and torque the head bolts above factory specifications (of ~56lb·ft if i remember) to ~75lb·ft. You also need to either add chimes (I think thats the word in english) to increase the oil pressure, or change the oil pump. The oil pump doesnt make enough pressure at higher rpms which leads to oil starvation. Im preparing to work on a mk3 supra with a 7mgte (since 1jzs are rare... And people like to make em way more expensive. People who've worked with the 7mgte will tell you it has better potential than the 1jz stock bottom, but idk personally
1jz is short block .. low end power to mid .. 2jz long block ..high end power .. its depends on how u setup the engine .. but 2jz is square engine is the best for speed .. for drift 1jz low end to mid power ..
Here from RB land to satisfy curiosity about putting 1JZ into GTS-t The block is pretty impressive huh. Bloody shame how they sound tho.... pretty average compared to an RB20/RB25, to put it nicely. How do you make them sound better, more like an RB?
If u ask me...in daily driving through city street driving...1jz is better...the fuel consumption not so high and has better response during low to mid rpm...if somehow you're working from city to city or cross states..i'd go with 2jz..you'll feel the difference if u own one of these engine..
1jzgte all the way, my reasoning is simple but true as had many of both said engines, 1jzgte twin turbo, 1jzvvti single turbo, 2jzgte twin turbo non vvti.first and foremost the 1jzgte sounds much better than a 2jzgte, especially mid to high in the rev range more ballsy something the 2jz engine lost in the extra capacity.second the 1jzgte both variants run much cooler than the 2jzgte (proven many times) the 2jzgte engine is a bigger to keep cool no matter what fans, shrouds, radiator you use they run hot as a 7mgte lolFinally the cost of the 1jzgte twin turbo engine and auto, ecu, harness etc can be had for as little as $500 from a Soarer, try 2jzgte $2500 (twin turbo non vvti) to $3500 (vvti)Also the 1jzgte has more torque in stock twin turbo than a Nissan rb26dett ($4,000 to $5,000)
Gtfloor Farkn You completely left out the best route: 2jz ge non vvti with a built head. Sounds so much better than the 2jz gte's, just as strong with the built head, and can be had for nearly as cheap as a 1jz. Throw a cple grand at the head with and get a good turbo: you've got an engine that's is strong as any jz, will last longer, and run as high of hp on the reg, no problem.
2jzgte is better in every way from the larger displacement to the superior sequential fuel injection. Nobody has ever removed a 2jzgte and replaced it with a 1jzgte... many have removed a 1jz and replaced with a 2jz. Ive owned a 1jz, built a 1.5jz with a big single and had several 2jz’s.
@@definitionmedia1130 lol,you think so! Toyota doesnt dominate,barra is way ahead in every way. The only engines toyota dominate in are landcruiser 4wds,corollas and camrys.
@@fkaroundfindout1967 so the pro engine builders are wrong and your right 🤣you barra girls are so funny.more desperately trying to be tough and can't be.keep dreaming and smoking ice and holding your mums hands,us jz owners across Australia and the world no who the boss is and your barra doesn't even rate,did you see the new jz records.stop embarrassing your self.go kiss your mum goodnight and leave the fast car stuff to us jdm men,
@@fkaroundfindout1967 alot of ford boys are on the jz pages going yip the barra is average bang for buck.its a soft open deck block even the small port 1jz head out flows the barra.free hint the large port 2jz head outflows the 1jz head are you just dumb or did your dealer just give you a hit 🙄 😅
@@definitionmedia1130 how about you kiss my ahole and you can shove your jdm engines you know where because I don't really give 2 fcks what you say about the barra engine,your just but hurt you poor thing,go get some tissues and wipe that dribble coming out of your pie hole 😆 🖕
VVTi definitely, for your average street car at least. But if its not an average street car then the funds are there for stronger rods. So yeah, vvti all day long. The torque you get below 3k is fantastic for a daily driver, effortless to drive. You can be in or out of boost at will without changing gears. Great fuel economy for a street car too, which is something no one likes to talk about for some reason. In the last few years going to a big 60mm plus sized turbo with a top mount manifold is unneeded with the advances in turbo technology. Smaller turbo's now flow more than ever before, many company's do stock location ct15b hybrids that can hit 500bhp.
Which one do you like better? 1JZ or 2JZ? Drop a comment below letting us know!
Dust Runners Automotive Journal I have a question about the 1jz, shouldn't we be comparing the rb26 to the 1jz seeing they are very similar?
What's the benefit of the BEAMS architecture in the 1JZ-GTE VVTi? The other variants and 2JZ variants don't have the BEAMS architecture, right?
Not everyone can afford 2jz so 1jz
That DFGT tho..takes me back
all i just want to say is i have a 1jz GTE and im proud of it 😉
Just got my first 1JZ-GTE this weekend. My turbos are almost perpetually spooled. This engine is so smooth.
1jz rods would technically be stronger being they are shorter :) ......and the argument starts
Yeah your right
but for people going above stock power there is a difference.... matching a 1jz revs with a 2 jz is the difference ....... get a 2jz reving with forged Internals is where it's at fuel and boost is the limit kinda
😂😂😂
If the rod material is the same, then yes it would be stronger because there is less area to flex.
Same goes toward an inline 4 cam vs inline 6 cam, the longer inline 6 cam will be more prone to flexing.
Wow so many experts in here.I bet you people haven’t even taken a beauty cover of.
@@memeworld6283I own a Supra do you?
1JZ sounds better and makes decent power still. Back in the day an old D1 drifter had a 1JZ powered Chaser making 900.
I'm no car person, but a few months before this, a youtuber car builder was convinced to put a 1J in his wifes car for drifting purposes. It sounds really good and she's getting really good.
Vance McCarthy I think I may know who you’re talking about... also, they aren’t husband and wife anymore lol
Kolton Adam lz be like
I would love to have either engine. 1JZ is a really cool swap for any early toyota like the AE86 or early 90's celica
I would have loved to dump a 1jz in my old '82 celica gt, would have been awesome, I still miss my high school car
Early 90’s Celica can not accept a 2JZ. Trust me, I’ve swapped dozens of them to 3S-GTE.
I drove a factory standard 1jz in a Soarer and was struck by its incredible smoothness, i remains the only motor I’ve experienced that is as smooth as a 1uz which I chose because I’m a V8 lover(apparently the jz is heavier than the uz?)
I’m learning that Toyota’s mission to reduce NVH is parallel to it’s mission to build reliable engines.
My thinking is that these motors being so smooth goes hand in hand with their strength.
Almost like they don’t rub and shake themselves to bits because they don’t rub and shake.
So much smoother than any other engines I’ve experienced. They’re the first engines I’ve called beautiful and I never even knew combustion engines could be this smooth.
(I’d have either)
Inline 6 are known to be very smooth engines because they have a perfectly balanced crankshaft
Nabil Birouk But of all inline 6s the JZs are the smoothest. Drive the smoothest 6 you’ve ever driven then drive a properly running JZ with a factory exhaust and you will feel the difference.
Also somehow the UZ V8s are as smooth as the JZ 6s. If you haven’t had a go at these amazing Toyota motors then do yourself a favour.
Cast iron block vs Aluminium if I recall. Makes a huge difference and probably why Toyota never used them in any racing capacity outside of their Le Mans entry Supra.
I have a 2JZge built in my Lexus. It works like a clock, with no shake and rattle. It's impressive how smooth and linear the power delivery is.
Funny fact, sometimes, I bring the car to my car repair shop, when I sense the first ratttles on him. One time even before the check engine light got on. Because whatever motion a 2JZ starts to have, is a sign for a problem with injectors or the ignition coils. It's always those two. The rest never breaks.
The 1jz vvti is an absolute torque monster dude, it has tons of torque down low. I can accelerate uphill in 5th gear at 2000rpm part throttle and out of boost in my 3700lb chaser. I can floor it on the highway going 90kms n hr in 5th and be in boost instantly. I get full boost before 2500rpm and the car hauls ass until around 6500 where it dies out a bit until the 7200rpm limiter. Cams, and a slightly larger stock position turbo with a standalone ecu should see this motor to 350whp, probably equal torque figure, with a similar looking powerband but full power out to 7500rpm.
Pfft.....I started off from a dead stop in 5th in my B18 Integra.
i had a 1jzgte in a 95 SC300, now i have a 2jzgte vvti in my 99 SC300.......i prefer the 2jz, but you cant go wrong with either
One things is for sure, companies are making power out of their engine every time, reliability is its twin. Overkilling its parts for reliability. Later in years, people/builder both from the company and customers finds that a particular engine is kind of strong as they imagined. Now cross cutting comes to play. I'm not saying that first gen engines are greater that the later ones, I'm just pointing out about how most of us desires of power made us hungry. This is subjective, just my opinion if its just okay to give one.
Can you do a video on difference between vvti & non vvti 2jz ?
Interference engine vs no interference engine. 2JZ without vvti is easyer to tune and doesn't shatter itself to bits when somethings goes wrong with the timing belt.
The real difference is on the highway. You can eco drive a 2jZ vvti pretty well (29 mpg for me, please notice that this number is achieved with revised geometry). The non vvti not so much.
Awesome video bro
The part I've always hated,was ignorant trolls assume a 1j is a piece of 💩 simply because it isn't a 2j😆!! One day,I would love a 1gz swapped Chaser! A 1GZ can be seen as a pair of 1jz's.
Love you,man.
stefan urquel 1j swapped my 90 supra. best decision ever
Thanx you! The 1JZ is capable as the 2JZ. The 2JZ is just a Stroked 1JZ with a couple of turbos slapped on the engine than just one!
Really like the channel. Keep up the good work man.
Thanks! - Bryce
Very helpful, is there also a video discussing the difference of the Lexus IS300 2jz-ge VVTI to the Supra 2jz-gte
hmmmm good info. i might actually get a 1j instead of a 2j now lol. gonna have to change my name to boosted 1j haha
Anyone built a factory 1JZGTe and how much power did you make reliably before going forged internals?
How to solve the 7mgte problems: replace head gasket with a MHG (metal head gasket) and torque the head bolts above factory specifications (of ~56lb·ft if i remember) to ~75lb·ft.
You also need to either add chimes (I think thats the word in english) to increase the oil pressure, or change the oil pump. The oil pump doesnt make enough pressure at higher rpms which leads to oil starvation. Im preparing to work on a mk3 supra with a 7mgte (since 1jzs are rare... And people like to make em way more expensive.
People who've worked with the 7mgte will tell you it has better potential than the 1jz stock bottom, but idk personally
Inverted V12 Powerhouse sounds like a horrible idea
Ruben Santana how so?
They call metal head gaskets MHGs? Lol..........have you tried torquing the head bolts to 150? Or welding the head onto the block?
You're talking about sequential turbo's & showing pics of a compound setup.
Series 2 RB25det vs RB25det neo?
Do a video on a 1jzgte none vvti vs 1jzgte vvti thanks
1jz is short block .. low end power to mid .. 2jz long block ..high end power .. its depends on how u setup the engine .. but 2jz is square engine is the best for speed .. for drift 1jz low end to mid power ..
Here from RB land to satisfy curiosity about putting 1JZ into GTS-t
The block is pretty impressive huh.
Bloody shame how they sound tho.... pretty average compared to an RB20/RB25, to put it nicely.
How do you make them sound better, more like an RB?
1Js sound similar to single turbo RB26s.....
1jz sound way better then RB’s🤣
That was a great video. .great info that I was curious about
How can you explain the 1.5JZ GTE with bottom end 2JZ block and the Glorious 1JZ Yamaha Head?
Alright, I’m really interested in getting a 1JZ powered car
3jz confirmed
There will be no 3JZ lmao stop it!
Prefer the low end torque. When i step on it, i want it to go.
1jz gte vvti 3rd gen didn’t have twins it had a single
NONE The 1 GZ FE is the best engine Toyota has ever produced. Its basically 2 1jz's bolted together.
Tho i LOVE 1jz's / 2jz's and 4age's also.
Basically, the 2JZ is just a Stroked 1JZ with a couple of turbos added rather than just one .
Do 3gr vs 2gr and also 1jz
I'll take the 1.5JZ, goodbye✌🏻
Dude where would I even be able to order a 1jz from a reputable dealer I wanna put 1 in my 2009 s60
Hello can i fit 1jz engine into an escudo 1996 plz help
does 1jz have forged engine block like 2jz?
l have done a lot of work on both motors over 1200 hp. The 1jz is weaker in the block and the crank than the 2jz
Well done
If u ask me...in daily driving through city street driving...1jz is better...the fuel consumption not so high and has better response during low to mid rpm...if somehow you're working from city to city or cross states..i'd go with 2jz..you'll feel the difference if u own one of these engine..
1jzgte in a 260z..scream!
Can you do a video on the qr25de???
VQ37VHR vs VR38DETT 🙏🙏
1jzgte all the way, my reasoning is simple but true as had many of both said engines, 1jzgte twin turbo, 1jzvvti single turbo, 2jzgte twin turbo non vvti.first and foremost the 1jzgte sounds much better than a 2jzgte, especially mid to high in the rev range more ballsy something the 2jz engine lost in the extra capacity.second the 1jzgte both variants run much cooler than the 2jzgte (proven many times) the 2jzgte engine is a bigger to keep cool no matter what fans, shrouds, radiator you use they run hot as a 7mgte lolFinally the cost of the 1jzgte twin turbo engine and auto, ecu, harness etc can be had for as little as $500 from a Soarer, try 2jzgte $2500 (twin turbo non vvti) to $3500 (vvti)Also the 1jzgte has more torque in stock twin turbo than a Nissan rb26dett ($4,000 to $5,000)
Gtfloor Farkn
You completely left out the best route: 2jz ge non vvti with a built head. Sounds so much better than the 2jz gte's, just as strong with the built head, and can be had for nearly as cheap as a 1jz. Throw a cple grand at the head with and get a good turbo: you've got an engine that's is strong as any jz, will last longer, and run as high of hp on the reg, no problem.
Sounds like I should get a 2JZ THEN LOL THANKS
2jzgte is better in every way from the larger displacement to the superior sequential fuel injection. Nobody has ever removed a 2jzgte and replaced it with a 1jzgte... many have removed a 1jz and replaced with a 2jz. Ive owned a 1jz, built a 1.5jz with a big single and had several 2jz’s.
I’ve actually seen quite a few drift guys remove their 2JZ swapped cars and go to 1JZ, sooooo...
U need A torque take 1jz .. u need a more horsepower take 2jz..
Didn't understand 1 word
I always thought 1 jz meant 1 turbocharger.
&
2jz meant 2 turbocharger
Whatever
1fz is the the older brother of 1jz , 2jz.
I want a 600hp at the wheels car with a 1jz, is that possible to reach?
SBM Crew most definitely, the one on our channel has 680 whp, car has been driven hard for 2 years+
If you have a lot of money.
@@SickStreets4K driven hard one day per year?
@@ellisjackson3355 nope, pretty often actually. But excessive 2 step eventually ruined the block. That car is getting built with a 1.5JZ rn
@@SickStreets4K aren't the 1JZ blocks cast iron or no?
7M is better. according to it's reign of service
2jz
What about the 1.5 jz
I’m saying
Why does nobody talk about the 1.5jz when they talk about jz's??
ya boii skrt 1.5jz is a combination of the 2j block and 1j top end
1.5jz ??
1jz is stronger do to shorter rod.
NEITHER-get a barra up ya lol.
That's going that far backwards it's not funny toyota dominates for a reason
@@definitionmedia1130 lol,you think so! Toyota doesnt dominate,barra is way ahead in every way. The only engines toyota dominate in are landcruiser 4wds,corollas and camrys.
@@fkaroundfindout1967 so the pro engine builders are wrong and your right 🤣you barra girls are so funny.more desperately trying to be tough and can't be.keep dreaming and smoking ice and holding your mums hands,us jz owners across Australia and the world no who the boss is and your barra doesn't even rate,did you see the new jz records.stop embarrassing your self.go kiss your mum goodnight and leave the fast car stuff to us jdm men,
@@fkaroundfindout1967 alot of ford boys are on the jz pages going yip the barra is average bang for buck.its a soft open deck block even the small port 1jz head out flows the barra.free hint the large port 2jz head outflows the 1jz head are you just dumb or did your dealer just give you a hit 🙄 😅
@@definitionmedia1130 how about you kiss my ahole and you can shove your jdm engines you know where because I don't really give 2 fcks what you say about the barra engine,your just but hurt you poor thing,go get some tissues and wipe that dribble coming out of your pie hole 😆 🖕
Nah bruh 1.5 jz. 1jz head with 2jz bottom end with cams single turbo 1000cc injectors on e85 revvin to the moon and boost for days
2jz engine durable... Strong
Vvti or non vvti ???
non VVTI is better
Vvti is better hands down this isnt 2001 when no one can tune vvti
except the weaker rods that like to run out of puff beyond 600hp+
VVTi definitely, for your average street car at least. But if its not an average street car then the funds are there for stronger rods. So yeah, vvti all day long. The torque you get below 3k is fantastic for a daily driver, effortless to drive. You can be in or out of boost at will without changing gears. Great fuel economy for a street car too, which is something no one likes to talk about for some reason. In the last few years going to a big 60mm plus sized turbo with a top mount manifold is unneeded with the advances in turbo technology. Smaller turbo's now flow more than ever before, many company's do stock location ct15b hybrids that can hit 500bhp.
Talk about a 1.5jz
Not really worth talking about.
Dust Runners Automotive Journal why?
Dicki Mill
looks like your reading a script and never touched a engine in your life
Joseph Giannini
1. I am reading from a script, get over it.
2. Learn how to English.
3. I’ve built multiple Chevy LS/LQ engines and multiple SBF 302s.
I have owned jz since 2000 and I can tell you this dust runner is a clues idiot
very good video
Nx videos sr20de vs sr20ve
Will do!
Sr20det vs sr20ve+t
SR20DET is the better engine hands down.
Nice try diddy
I have a 1JZ... wasted my time. Should have gone 2JZ.
AMYAS Seek Truth mind if i ask why
Yea why was it a waste LUL
@@BySixa because "anything that is not called 2JZ" is a waste lol
2jz is better period lol
simple answer is 2jz for purists & 1jz/uz for enthusiasts
That answer does not make any sense. Thanks for watching!
2jz is make with estronger materials look it up