2JZ Motor 101
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2020
- In this video I point out the differences between the 2JZ motors; 2JZ-GTE, 2JZGE and VVTI vs. Non-VVTI. Comment below with any questions!
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Didnt think i would be learning about 2JZs at 2am from Joe Dirt
Lol 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 damn good lesson too
It's only 1am where I'm at!
@@RADIndustries Hey bud seen your UA-cam video about the different 2jz’s
I want a 2jzgte vvti. Not at $6k. Why did the prices shoot up? Also should I wait or save or go a different route? Do you think the price will drop if so when?
@@alejandrocervantes7123 supply and demand
supply dwindling away and demand is sky high
the cars they were coming out of are becoming legal for importation which means prices on the cars have gone up aswell
aswell as the engines and cars have been exported out of japan to all over the world
so your best bet is to get a ge vvti and build it
This vid is next level from all angles
1 - he’s a 2jz encyclopaedia
2 - dudes got a sick mullet
3 - wears sliders in the shop
Toyota shoukd just copy a page off GM like they do on Ls motor sell the 2jz crate engine.
Titan Motorsport
Toyota is the biggest auto manufacturer in the world. Theres too much money in building Camrys and Corollas to care about supporting their old stuff. Can't even get MR2 stuff from Toyota anymore which is why i got into BMW's instead. Complete horseshit. You cant new OEM parts, which is why people pay 5x the price on Ebay for a used headlight, meanwhile you can buy any part you want for a 100+ year old Mercedes.
Placeholder Name I feel on that because in Japan they don’t keep there cars that old due to there taxes and reg fees the older the car more expensive it gets. It’s slowly changing with Toyota selling some parts for the A70/A80 Supra’s and Mazda with the NA MX5 and Nissan with R32 GTR.
@@iheartgs400 What can you get for the Supra MK4 now? My mate just bought a Toyota Soarer which is basically a Lexus SC300 on the Supra platform but with a 1JZ GTE motor and hes having problems finding stock Toyota parts for maintenance.
you can purchase 2jz short and long blocks from toyota
Love this quality 👏🏼👏🏼
Tj Hunt I agree 🧐
Thanks Bud, we are working on improvements
Spot onn broo definitely doing a little piston swap and port when i go turbo its gona be beautiful ☄️😍😍
Yessir
TJ!!!! Whats up bro!!!
Great video! Only small mistake is the 2JZ-GE (non VVT-I) is actually non interference. Only the 2JZ-GE VVT-I is interference.
Unless you change the head gasket and such right?
Hey, Pure Function. Have you seen this one?
ua-cam.com/video/y-9Wr4G2Zas/v-deo.html
By interference you mean the valves hitting the piston?
@@benitamanzanarez3520 yes
Pure Function is correct. Non-interferance.
You should do that 2jz ge vvti rebuild. I have an 02 is300 and would like to make more power with it. Very informative, learned a lot about the differences in under 15 min.
I’ll do the rebuild and upgrade video soon
I have one too AAAHHH
helping us get into a jz for cheap...thank you Dan, the world needs more ppl like you
2JZ's are like the fisherman tale. Everytime someone talks about it, it can hold 100hp more with a stock motor. The safe number on these motors used to be 650-700. 750-800 was possible but wouldn't last long. Kids are reading forums and hearing things here and there and suddendly these are 1000whp capable motors stock.
Exactly. On the forums where people actually own cars with this motor, safe limit on stock internals is said to be about 400-500hp. Sure you can do some hoorah dyno runs with 800hp but it wouldn’t hold up for too long like that.
Some people don't understand it doesn't always have to be about maximum power. Good luck getting 1000 whp to reliability hook on the street once the turbo lag ended.
Don't get me wrong. I love a proper high horsepower build, but there's a time and place. 400-500 in a Supra sounds like a fun time.
A ton of the reliability also comes with the tune. You could have a fully built block with all supporting mods to run 1000 horse reliably and can detonate it at 500 horse if your tune is shit. As time goes on and people learn more about these motors the tuning and engine management for them is also improving, that's why guys are saying you can run them at 750 reliably as opposed to 650 5 years ago
A thousand hp for street is pretty cool useless. First when Supra’s are drag racing they have to have sizable shoot of NOS to spool the turbo. Without the nod you have a 12’s 1000hp car. Same thing on the street, a lot of turbo lag. I raced a stocking Supra in my stockish Grand National and I destroyed him off the line. He caught me at the end with a trap speed of 131 and 11.67 trap as opposed to my 115 and 11.70 trap.. Supra’s are still bad ass and everyone knows it, but to hear some guy in his garage built a Supra to run 246 in the Texas Mile, I had to call bullshit. He didn’t say it someone else did, his car was built and tuned by Boost Logic. One other myth, I’ve heard that these 2000hp 2jzed are no longer stock, but rather the billet 2jzed.
@@fastboatster Totally agree with people over-talking the motor but let's not under-talk it either. 400-500hp (even whp) is laughably easy on a properly tuned stock 2jz-gte. People are making 700-800 or more at the wheels for 10s of thousands of miles now, myself included.
Very very knowledgeable video bud! I love how you went into detail and explained everything between them. I love learning new things about stuff. You should seriously consider doing more videos like this explaining the differences and the pro’s/con’s of all these different parts and what not. A lot of people can seriously learn a lot from you man. Again, super awsome video buddy!! I also love the quality of this video!! Keep up all your hard work dan!! You are most definitely one of the top 5 best youtuber’s buddy.
Stay safe out there man!!
Basically, buy a non vvti ge as soon as you can before they’re expensive as hell
No a vvti ge he even said
Aleph Null yes but he’s partly wrong... the vvti ge head is better, but the non vvti bottom end is much better. He said they’re limited to 450 or so hp but there are a ton of people pushing 500-600 reliably.... he was going on about oil squirters being the saving grace of the gte’s, when in reality most people delete them bc they lower oil pressure.... the ge non vvti literally just needs the distributor deleted then it’s good for 500+ easily
@@zerohourdrift so vvti if you dont mind building the block and non vvti for more of a ready to go set up
Aleph Null correct
Lmao they already are fan boys have ruined the JZ scene
Got to say, you are one of my favourite youtuber, down to earth, good content and quality 2JZ info, tips and tricks, wish you all the best!
This series is VERY necessary. Stoked!
Just bought a 03 IS300 with the VVTI, glad someone made a new and super detailed video. Looking forward to the GE teardown and build !
so what car has the best engine for me to take it out?
@@gabedaxe477 MKIV supra obviously, but even a completely wrecked one is still far too valuable to even both with.
It's all about MK3 supra engine swaps. Sadly i'll have to be content with my 7M-GE for a long time, but I do love the way it sounds.
Every video on cars should be like this period.
One of the best channels I like the way you explain for people !🙏🙏
By far my favorite car and driver in FD. Love this super informative video
recently imported a supra with a non-vvti...looking for ways to rebuild it and turbo the car properly!
Subscribed to learn more about 2JZ and see the build process!
This is a great addition to the channel. Looking forward to many endless episodes!
Thanks man
Fantastic video. Thank you for the breakdown, been enjoying the series. Can't wait for the NA-T dive.
Almost expected an Australian accent with the mullet and flip flops
Very rad, this is the exact info I've been wondering since my buddy sold his is300 with a vvti. Thanks, Dan 👊🏻
From what i'm aware the 2jz-ge has higher compression pistons but they're still made the same way as the GTE with a high pressure casting method making them as close to forged without being forged (the expansion of the pistons on fully forged would bring excessive oil burning issues during startup and wouldn't be emissions friendly) also distributor ignition systems on ge's are proven reliable up to 800whp
I think the rods are slightly thinner on the GE though.
@@Chevsilverado
They’re not. Only the NA VVTi are thinner.
Beautiful clear direct and simplify
This is one of the best if not the best video on 2JZ
Everything I've known about all 4 are spot on. This is a great video for 2j newbies for sure. The ge vvti seems to be the best way to start a big build which is thw route I went. Bc rods and cp pistons.
This video was awesome guys! I’m thinking about putting a JZ into my G35, but you guys are right about the turbo vvti are really expensive now. Hopefully you guys can put a budget NA-T together and cost to build. Thanks guys.
Spot on Dan. For a short video I felt they were explained relatively well. Just subscribed!
So much knowledge. Great video. And wow those RAD Industries parts looks like 2j jewelry. Nice work Dan.
Thanks Dan!! Definitely helps decide as I start planning my E36 build!
Hopefully it helps you still choose a JZ 😉
@@RADIndustries if only i can find one for a reasonable price!!! As you mentioned in the video, there is no way I am paying 6k for a GTE.
I was going to build the engine so I decided it to go with 2JZGE VVTI because it was cheaper and I it has what I wanted it which it was the Block, crank and VVTI HEADS.... if you want decent power with unopened engine then go with the GTE engine but for me, the best option was the GE VVTI... Great Video man 👍🏻
I love the idea for the engine build series!!! Thank you!
"the skid factory" did a really good review on the differences between the 1jz Vs 2jz 👍
Never saw it man, I just work primarily on JZs at my shop and I compete in my Supra in FD and I have been asked over and over to do a video like this so I just did one real quick.
Just bought a 2jz ge for my 240, excited to build it, and follow your build. Definitely gonna be buying some RAD industries parts for it!
Sounds good dude
This gets me so excited and more motivation to build my GE block. If you start making parts I’ll absolutely give you my money
Love this video! You explained various things I was completely unaware of, and it’s always nice receiving knowledge from someone who’s very knowledgeable. Great video 😎
Thanks for watching dude
I love this video, can you do something similar with 1JZ’s too?
2jz ge vvti is the most sensible platform to start with when building a high hp, single turbo set up. Already has coil on plug. Add a set of forged rods and there ya go(more or less lol). Also the 2jz ge has the best flowing head of all the jz family
vvti na, as it sits is the worst of the variants because of the stock components for building power. they are all reliable tho
The non VVTI GE has the best flowing head. At least unless you're going 1.5 JZ build with the head from the 1JZGTE. Also the non VVTI is non interference, he got it mixed up with the GTE non VVTI which is interference due to the compression ratio. Putting in 272 cams turns the non VVTI GE into an interference but it isn't from the factory.
Thanks' for the tip's.. looking forward to watching older and new vid's.
Straight and to the point, great video 🙏🏽
👍. You should have talked about the 1.5 JZ using the non vvti block
I never get tired hearing about these engines. I own 2 of them (GE VVT-i & GTE VVT-i). The GTE VVT-i is being refreshed, getting a single turbo, after market wiring harness, AEM Infinity 6, etc, and is going into an 1991 MA70.
Nice dude, thanks
@@RADIndustries Indeed my man. Thank you for the righteous RADness.
Only here because I’m picking up a gs300 with vvti for 1k this week. Definitely a series I’ll be checking out
Very informative and thorough! Thanks !
Camera quality nuckin futs!
Damn, thanks for making a video like this man. I've been thinking about how to boost my is300 reliably for a while without buying an Aristo motor and I just see alot of people throwing information around that just doesn't make sense. This will definitely help me with getting my build correct.
Non vvti GE pistons and rods, GTE headgasket, ARP headstuds, BC cams, exhaust cam gear, redo seals especially for the crank, other than that you should be good to boost the engine. If you have an automatic is300 you should be good over 350 ft/lbs or torque, but manual you should try your best to keep it under 350 ft/lbs since the w55 transmission is not that strong.
@@CardsNSleevesTCG Are the non-Vvti GE pistons and rods different from the VVTI? If you’re gonna do a piston and rod swap wouldn’t it be worth it to just go for completely aftermarket stuff?
@@Chevsilverado non vvti has same rods different piston from gte apparently and vvti has thinner weaker rods and different heads to the gte to accomodate n/a compression.
And after market vs used piston n rod is dependant on price
Dude such good info. I appreciate that you are willing to find different ways to get everyone into their dream 2jz. Rad!
If you can find one
You, my friend have earned a subscriber 👍🏻 I learned some valuable stuff and wanna stay tuned for the engine build
Coming from the Supra scene, it's great to see someone dispelling the myths and looking for ways to get more people into the 2j game. I love the details. 😁
Thanks for the info! I’m about to pick up a manual sc300
Man love this video, a lot of info when I build my 2002 IS300. Thanks 👍
Hey Dan, thanks for the rad vid, I wonna do a 2JZ swap on my Datsun GX coupe, but where im from (South Africa) GTE prices are ridiculas (R65000) and GE prices are reasonable (R10000-16000)
Anyway thanx for explaining the difference between VVTI and non-VVTI. I wonna do a non-VVTI build with a fat single turbo on pushing about 800hp in a car that weighs less than a ton😅😅😅
3:20 I made 831rwhp on a dyno dynamics at 29.3psi on a mix of BP98 and toluene back in 2010 on stock GTE non-VVTI short motor, just BC 280°/11.48mm cams, shimless buckets, Ferrea dual springs locks and Ti retainers, L19 studs, Hypertune big port plenum with 102mm throttle body, an ultra basic GT4708 80mm bush bearing turbo, and an Autronic SM4. Would've loved to have seen what it would make on E85 on 45psi with a built motor and one of the new G series Garretts but life intervened and I sold it all a few years ago.
Cool bro
Life just loves to intervene when things are getting good. big ups to that build though, sounded like a monster in the making
Very interesting. Thanks Dan!
Dude you're the man! I asked you to make a video about this exactly and you delivered!!!
Yeah Buddy 🙌🏻
Definitely a good video for those who want to learn about the legend 2j and for those planning to build one now they have a better idea of what route to take or how they might want to do it
That’s what I’m hoping it can do for those people out there about to build a motor and deciding if they should or shouldn’t
Good video, but now another person raising the prices on GE blocks! 😭😭 good thing I kept my blown up GE vvti lol
Lol the more expensive they get the better haha. I have 3 NAs and 2 Gtes in storage
Awesome video and awesome channel! Love your brand
Supper great information and we’ll given, thanks
Makes a guy with an is300 think hard, would have been interesting if you also included the 1jzge and gte cuz I'm curious about those too. Thanks Dan
non vvti 1jzge has thick rods too. I only happen to know because i watched a russian guy on youtube pull one apart. Turboing 1jzge's seem to be a russian thing
7:43 This dude high asf 😂😂
Very good video bro!
One the best supra and jz gurus for the world!
Thanks for the info, I have a built 2jz GE vvti in my xj Cherokee
Dude, you've smoked one to many
That background is legit
Very insightful, thanks!
Very good explanation.
You should do the 1JZs.
first? says 0 comments. Love learning the ins and outs of different motors
Nice dude 👍🏻
Have been waiting for a video like this for years
Hell yeah dude that was rad. Keep up the quality content
I feel like the interference discussion was backwards. Otherwise a very well put together video. If I'm wrong, please do correct me though.
no yea he definitely shouldve started from the slowest to fastest stock
"it just works" yeah todd told us the same thing
Great video, only thing missing is car lineup where they came from that'd be dope to see...
Need more of these videos forsure....
Awesome video. Very informative.
I'm trying to decide on my next build ls or jz. It depends on the car I guess.
Jz is good but the w58 gearbox (manual, mated with non turbo jz) is absolutely horrible. So you have to get either a v161 or r154 gearbox. So keep that in mind
Buy the most expensive one!!
fuck it, turbo LS in a supra
No hemi? Cummins? Viper v10?
I’ve seen non vvti ge unsealed short block hit 950 with built head
Unsealed huh, tell me more.
Very informative video, thank you!
Great video. High level but comprehensive
Smart man! Nice he’s almost a doctor in his craft. Those flip flops completely ruin his credibility.
Nice mullet tho!!
Im curious on what are you going to do with the ge vvti, so imma stick around
I’m gonna show you guys soon
Same i have a 99 gs300 been wanting to know if I can get reliable hp or need to get taxed for a 2jzgte
The video quality brother. Amazing
This video is awesome! All the other videos I've watched about the 2jzge said the block was the same witch is true for the most part my concern was the oil squters and wether or not you could turbo the car reliably without them great information thanks for talking about the rods, pistons and oil squters that takes a lot of stress out of making some real power with a 2jzge
dope ass haircut, you rock it
All VVT-i JZ variants are interference. Non VVT-i are non-interference.
The guy got this one wrong
super valuable knowledge! great video!
Good stuff. Love this content
2jzge non vvti are 10:1, also as far as my research has done, they're also non interference, vvti's are interference.
Jonathan Gardner yea I’ve got one and I’ve rotated the crank without a timing belt at all and never made contact with the open valves.
@@harrisonpeck130 good to hear I wasn't miss lead, thanks!
wait what? the gte's are non interference????? what about the 1jz-gte vvti
Yup, over 800whp on a stock non-interference motor here.
Good informative video now let's hear one on difference of 1JZGTE VS 2JZGTE
Very informative keep it up now I get to know there is non vvti versions of this engines 👍🏻
This dude sounds like hes asleep.
@Max 💀😂
As expected, a bit misinformed regarding the GE motor.
1st. All non vvti GE motors are non interference.
2nd. All 2JZGTE's and 2JZGE's have cast pistons. Non vvti GE pistons are just as strong as GTE pistons and will handle just about the same horsepower even with stock compression if running E85. However GTE pistons will perform a bit better on prolonged pulls because of the added coatings and when in a GTE block, the added oil cooling.
3rd. The first run of vvti 2JZGE's for the american market had the thicker rods, but good luck trying to find one now.
4th. If the price is right get GE non vvti. Since you should refresh the motor anyway, you can easily convert to the vvti oil pump, water pump and crank trigger neded to go distributorless without any additional cost over replaceing the non vvti parts, excluding senaors. And you can stay with the stock bottom end parts up 800 whp on e85.
5th. There is more 😂
so would 1998 sc300 would have the thicker rods?? Or are the ge vvti first run was older then that?? Genuinely curious??
@@MrEspnsportsfan wish I could say, I don't remember production dates. This was discussed and confirmed way back when Supraforums was a thing.
There’s hecka info on there and clublexus I just don’t remember off hand
Rad dan telling me facts bout sick engines? Dude. Sign me the fuck up.
thanks for share your knowledge very helpful.
This is for the Honda guys transitioning over to the big boys, 😂 jk
Fr tho we be sick of putting our heart and soul inter our 4 cillinders only to make 400hp
don’t sleep on the K24. You can slap on a big turbo, get 500+ hp, blow up the engine, buy another K24 for a few hundred bucks and do it again.
@@bryceheppler7181 Big turbo is the way to go for the K24, highly recommended getting one if you want to keep up/outrun v8s and maybe some bolt on v8s.
@@AquafalconHD was just teasing the Honda guys. K series one of the baddest 4banger out there for sure.
This video is hard to watch because of the mistakes that he is making talking about these motors, the non vvti ge is not an interfering motor....and it’s 10:1 compression. Had to stop when he said this because he obviously not to inclined at least he knew how many main caps there are smh
Do oil squirters really make that much of a difference?
LORD OF THE RiMS no and idk why he makes a big deal about them, they are only there for longevity purposes, when building a high horsepower motor they are blocked off because having excess oil on the rotating assembly actually can seep horsepower because it is encountering more resistance, that is why things like windage trays exist they scrape oil off of the crank to make the rotating assembly encounter the least resistance possible, blocking off the oil squirters also raises oil pressure which is good for high rev applications which most high horsepower builds are
@@lordoftherims436 Somewhat, they are good to have for extra oil protection/cooling but its not the end all be all that this video makes them sound like. The stock connecting rods on both GTE's and GE's already have an integrated oil jet at the base of the rod that shoots oil at both the piston and cylinder walls for cooling.
@@zXCrackersXz if you were doing an na-t build you would probably go with low compression forged pistons anyway that have more heat resistance
@@zXCrackersXz that oil jet on the rod isn't to cool anything, its to lubricate the piston pins 👍
I knew everything he said but i still watched it because i love Dan 🤙🏻 keep doing what you do!
Thanks Bud
i have a lexus is300 i want to na-t. this is the perfect video. looking forward to the series on the 2jzge vvti
Don't want to be nitpicky but there wasn't much energy in this video felt like a high school presentation.
Then don't watch it lol
The non vvti 2jzge is 10:1:1 compression not 10:5:1