A quarter the price! - NexiGo Aurora Pro
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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4K projectors are a great avenue to explore if you are looking for a large display but don't have the budget for those expensive 100-inch TVs. Luckily for you, the new Aurora Pro Projector from NexiGo will satisfy your needs with its 4K image and HDMI 2.1 inputs.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Unboxing
1:54 Taking a look at the Aurora Pro
3:39 IT'S ALIIIIIVE
6:25 Playing some Dolby demos
8:14 Testing out the speakers
8:49 Gamer time
12:09 Closing thoughts
12:30 Outro - Наука та технологія
Linus tech tips
This needs to stay top comment
@@FlynnTheRedheadyes
Good point
Linus tech tips
Linus tech tips
Linus is back to his full form:
-almost drops ridiculously expensive thing
-uses sword to adjust studio lighting
-insane amounts of shilling/bias towards sponsored product
And is misleading af about the specs. Despite the HDMI 2.1 input, this thing does NOT output 4K at 120Hz but 4K at 60Hz, as stated in the manual.
Literally mentioned in the video
-projector does 4K
-projector supports up to 120Hz refresh rate
-by the way guys, HDMI 2.1 supports 4K at 120Hz, and this projector has 1 such input
PROJECTOR ACTUALLY DOES 4K@60
LMAO
There must be some sort of mix up then. You are right that the manual says 60htz but they do plaster all over the main site that it's 120htz. Would be great for Nexigo to address and clarify this.@@simmydsimmyd
Don't worry about the trolls responding to you, they don't like anyone giving compliments. What you said was funny and also true, and that's why we like him, because he's silly.
NOTE: The Nexigo does not have the capability for actually showing a 4K/120 source at 4K/120hz. There is no DLP chip on the market today which is capable of such a feat.
While the projector may accept a 4K/120 source, it either shows it a 4K/60hz, or down converts it to 1080p/120hz.
This is because the current chips from Texas Instruments simply aren't capable of 4K/120 playback. The chips themselves are 1080p chips, and they are already getting hammered by operating at a peak refresh rate of 240hz which is how they create 8 million pixels on screen (4K/60) with their pixel shifting technology. The DLP chips are capable of 1080p/120hz and 1080p/240hz playback, which is awesome. But, they simply are not capable of actual playback on screen at 4K/120hz. This is one of those myths the manufacturers put out and don't clarify to the end user how exactly they are dealing with the conversion process. I don't have any idea how Nexigo is handling the 4K/120hz output, because it's definitely NOT at 4K/120hz.
Pretty sure the LTT/Short Circuit crowd would love clarification on exactly how 4K/120 is handled by the actual projector. If they say they show the content at 4K/120, then I'd want to speak to someone else who understand that the Texas Instruments DLP chips that exist today are simply not capable of such a thing.
CES 2023 (early this year) showed the first prototype native .94" DLP chips which were native 4K and could accurately show 4K/120 and 4K/240 content along with pixel shifting 8K content. Those chips are not in production yet and are on no DLP projectors at this time.
This please. I've been waiting on an actual 4K/60+hz UST projector for years now I haven't been able to find one on the market.
I was going to get this until I saw comments like this one. More info please. Is 4K at more than 60hz impossible on UST laser projectors?
I thought LTT was going to do more thorough fact checking before releasing videos now 😂
I looked it up and found this response directly from NexiGo:
"The 0.47 DMD chip will restrict it to a 60Hz output. However, our tests have shown that gaming is considerably smoother with a 120Hz input than a 60Hz input, even when the output remains at 60Hz. The difference is quite noticeable and also provides advantages in terms of low latency. There are likely to be no native 4K120Hz UST projectors available on the market for at least a few years. "
@ShortCircuit - love you guys but you done goofed again
Take it easy cowboy, you showing to much facts about a know thing, LTT it’s show only
@@jono6379 Cancel them. Mistakes will not be tolerated.
The shots where Linus was silhouetted or solely lit by the screen looked really cool for some reason. You should use that as a lighting source more often.
Literally exactly my thought. It had a really cinematic look to it for some reason
Would highly recommend everyone watch the Hook Up comparison video. This dominates in dark room viewing. The only main issue is focus uniformity from the cheap lens. Also its important to know it does NOT support 120hz output. Only input. Otherwise no projector, even long throws compete with this under $3000. The 5050UB is close but is only 2x shifting and a bulb with less color gamut coverage. Good contrast though
Wow, a projector being good in a dark room.
How does this compare to the XGIMI Horizon Ultra. They've made a video about it earlier I think. If I am not really in need of ultra short throw what is the best bang for the buck? I still use my old Optoma UHD550x (on 135")until something with Dolby Vision is affordable. I just use the device for movies and don't need 120hz either. A cheap but great projector screen would be my next step since mine got damaged recently.
@@herrsalz278 yeah, I'm still using a UHD51A, don't really want to make that step up to the £3k mark until there's another big jump in technology.
@@herrsalz278 The Nexigo has many times the contrast of the Ultra. Focus uniformity maybe a little better on the Ultra, but in every other department the Nexigo destroys it.
@@rustler08 Yah the AWOL 3500 is the best if you use in a brighter room.
Id really appreciate if they could come up with a pseudo living room lighting setup for tv and projector reviews. Both "movie studio lighting" and "complete darkness" do not fairly portray it in every day use. I really want to know what it looks like in a normally lit room. That matters a lot to me in terms of knowing if it's bright or contrasty enough to not be annoying if I don't have like blackout curtains during the day.
You will want blackout curtain for sure.
Also maybe not with a 1000$ Projector Screen, but also a white wall and some cheaper alternatives.
We are building one, but permits are really slow here. -LS
There's other channels out there like The Hook Up that actually do side-by-side measurements and testing of various projectors from all across the price range in average consumer environments. He has a video on the NexiGo and it performs pretty bad with lights on, but is basically king in dark rooms. He even had 3 separate units tested to make sure it wasn't a fluke or golden sample.
@@ShortCircuit oh, good to hear that!
Linus standing in front of the screen at 8:15 reminds me of those bootleg movies we used to watch as kids, when some dude used to record the movie straight in the cinema
Ceiling projectors have speakers because they are designed to be used in a classroom or boardroom type environment where a group of people are sitting behind the projector and watching someone give a presentation. They are still very commonly used in the military for briefings.
There just pretending to be dumb to promote this one better... of course speaker in a videoprojector makes sense, most are not used to watch movies
98/100 inch tv's doesn't cost 15k anymore. Tcl offers one 120hz for around 2500, Hisense has miniLed one for around 4000. Even Samsung has good HDR tv for 6000 and price is dropping every few months.
I remember when we bought our 55 " for almost 1.5k 😭😭😭
He may have been thinking of specific tvs. The company I work for installed a Sony that was like 104" or 108", something like that. It was $15k, and weighed enough we needed 4 people to lift it on to the mount.
How would the TCL look next to this for both gaming and watching movies? The UST + screen would cost more than the TCL equivalent in "
@@IsaacRifkin no, at start of video is picture of 2021 Samsung QN90A which had start price of 15k. Now it can be had for 8.
@@shmikey100 vincent teoh at hdtvtest made comparison between lased projector vs second cheapest tcl 98 tv. Tv easily won, so I expect even cheaper tcl tv should at least mach projector
I'm always amazed at how companies don't make it clear that their 4K image is via a four way shifting 1920x1080 chip.
Is it though? Where is that described?
Resolution
3840 x 2160 - there should be something there then, right?
@@Daniel-zy1ir yeaaah sure bro
Marketing 101:
"Perception is greater than reality."
@DStek42 a yo bro, what's the difference or how does it change the image the shifting chip ?
I could tell this video alone that my BenQ is way better and I don't even have the screen yet 🤣
I appreciate that they are telling us the details of the promo code upfront.
I love that they're talking about general issues with short throw projectors and happen to be using a specific product. Definitely spon content but less like an advert and more infotainment. Very cool
The stuck pixels on the B-roll camera gave me a heart attack 😅
At $3700 including the screen you can get a 75 inch top of the line OLED TV with 100 percent better image quality and contrast with enough money left over for a complete sound system lmao
You're missing the point of who the target audience is for this product.
Projectors provide IMMERSION that not even my 77-inch Sony A95L QD-OLED TV can't match.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M most people sitting closer to a 75 inch oled tv with perfect black (aka infinite contrast) will have way better immersion than watching a 120 inch image with contrast levels worse than a 1998 plasma tv
@@PSYCHOV3N0Mplus this is a scalable image size. And "100% better image quality" is complete bullocks
@@garyfinestine6327laser projectos are far from matching even budget tv's.
Also the OLED probably supports more than 4K@60, unlike this thing.
I would rather go with 77 inch OLED from the last gen LG. It will be cheaper and much less hassle.
What a stupid comment.
Of course its cheaper, its older.
A current gen would costs the same price as the projector.
Without consumer products releasing with an early adopter tax, things wouldnt get cheaper over time and tech wouldnt advance...
I'm not excited to go out and buy this product right now, but I am excited about what comes in the future off the back of this product at a more affordable price.
LG77" OLED: I got 1 77" TV in one room
Nexigo: I got an 80-150" TV anywhere i want
@@ceegii63 *anywhere i want that i can fit a screen.
but baring in mind they also do a retracting screen, basically anywhere
@@SamPhoenix_ LOL Yes, older. But still better than a projector. And it's still an amazing TV.
@@BleepBlop-rh9lm in your *opinion*
I'm taking a break from projectors. I was up to 4 of them. Just sold two of them. I have a 70" TV. Works fine, even during daylight hours.
There are other projectors available that work fine during daylight in bright rooms.
The Hook Up made a video a few days ago.
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There are ultra short throw specific ambient light rejecting screens that have microscopic triangular ridges that span the width of the screen, black on top, white on the bottom so light from above hits the black top of the ridges, whereas the projector light hits the white bottom of the ridges. These give an experience possibly as good as a TV, especially if lit from above vs daylight coming across from the side or even bouncing off the floor. I don't have a set up like that yet but it's the way I will go when I finally upgrade. Those screens are of course even more expensive but unlike a TV, you can just upgrade the projector in the future and keep the screen.
and its doesnt give u the "mirror" effect on daylight or lighten up rooms which is already insane. but i understand that most ppl are very sceptical about it, i was too till i seen one in action personally
You talking about fresnel screens or lenticular screens or something else??
Be specific.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M - Both lenticular and Fresnel screens act similarly and have similar ridges. The difference is the pattern in which they are laid out on the screen surface. The screen in this video is a fresnel screen. This is why they spoke about the somewhat 'narrow' viewing angle before contrast dropped as he went to the sides. The lenticular screens do not do this as much as fresnel screens do. The video on The Hook Up gets into deep detail of the differences between the two technologies.
In a good seating position, fresnel screens look better and do a better job and ambient light rejection. But, if you need a wider viewing angle, the lenticular screens do a better job at having a more uniform image.
I’m not even sure their projector screen is a fresnel screen if I understand what they are correctly. It looks much worse than I would expect. What I’m talking about look like they almost completely reject light from above due to them being black. Have a search for ALR PET Crystal. In one video they show the screen from the above and below angles, from below it looks white, from above it looks black.
6:40 this shot looks surreal
A lot of this room prep and special screens is a game of making up for a lack of lumens. I've had projects for quite a while now, since back in the sub 1000 lumen 720p stuff. What I've found is usability of projectors is almost entirely a game of having enough light output. More recently I finally went to a business oriented projector intended for commercial display in lit rooms during daytime. What I've found is 5000 lumens is the bottom end of where you want to be. Target should be in the 6000 to 7000 range, but almost no one offers such output outside of business or high price theater specific stuff. The key is once you have enough raw output, you are no longer fighting external or room light. You have so much overhead that it's not even a fight. The only remaining downside is black levels as they go up to gray. But this is where screens start to offer control, depending on what's needed or if you have enough light washout to care. For myself, once I got above 5000 lumens for output, I stopped caring about the outside world bleeding in. I can comfortably watch a 120" screen mid day in the summer with all windows open. It just doesn't matter once you have enough output. It just doesn't matter. I'm at 5000 and will happily take more. It is the single most influential factor for the "but projectors are a compromise" debate. It's just a question of if you'll pay $4000 to $5000 for that output. This level of output starts in the mid $3000 range, so it can be "affordable" within a scale of cost. But higher lumens is north of $4000. Plus you're not getting to cherry pick brands/models for those prices. Even in the same lumen range, you can pay 2x or more for alternative models and features. The same lumen range can have a $3500 projector and an $8000 projector. Depending on the features you need, you might be paying a premium if they are necessary.
Yeah, in a way, if you're going to go projector, you should just buy a used theater projector. Speaking of lumens. At my local hometown theater we had hooked up a cheap $300 3500 lumen projector for our main screen before we transitioned from 35mm to digital and it worked amazingly passable. Nobody complained. I'm still amazed it worked.
Can you make a video for the best 4K projector for a smaller budget? This thing still costs as much as a used Honda Civic.
Apparently it's not really 4K and not really 120Hz. That was misleading tbh.
Edit: $1K for the screen alone?? Please do this again on a shoestring budget. I'd be more interested in that.
As some one with epilepsy I really appreciate the warnings you guys have been including lately. I'm not photosensitive like some people with epilepsy but nonetheless I still appreciate it.
I find it pretty seamless too with the bells indicating the start and stop.
I have a projector setup in my living room for special movie nights. Sadly Hollywood's been cranking out some CW level content lately so its not getting used much these days. But having a screen that's 89" W is pretty sweet for watching movies.
Would have been cool to see a comparison to a TV in the same price range, but it’s understandable that this was not included since it’s a sponsored video.
Wish there was more projector reviews and discussions about projector technology. After watching the video, I don't recall you mentioning if this is a DLP or LCD. Assuming DLP, because of the banding on your camera. But thank you for reviewing more projectors!
Yeah, as much as I would love one I couldn't justify this over a good 75 inch top end oled which is often even in a lower price bracket than that set up. I can't see choosing a projector over that for a main viewing platform. In the case of a set up where you have a dedicated theater room where you have a large screen you probably are just going to go overhead instead of short throw. Frankly the quality of TV's now though makes a theater room less appealing now though. This is just one of those products that makes less and less sense over time.
Frankly the more common use I have for a projector is something like having everyone sitting around it during a holiday or party watching something for fun while chilling outdoors. In that case something like portability and ease of set up matter a lot more than that because I am more likely to be using it outside. Like I would love a projector for use on my deck where we could watch something outside or by a hottub/pool. That said the main concern there is something portable and easy to set up and price around 250 but with decent quality.
I think part of the problem projectors face is just how good the middle end TV's have become. For 400 dollars I can get a 55 inch miniled TV with 120 full array dimming with half decent HDR now if you look for a good sale. It has gotten to the point where for the price difference and quality you get I rather just get a cheap TV and put it on a mobile stand and store it in a shed when I was looking at projectors for that use case.
I was going to say that. A LG OLED 77inch is cheaper than this setup (2999 projector + 999 screen vs 2999 TV), in a living room setup I don't care about the size difference, given I can sit closer to the OLED TV, and this is clearly not designed for a home theater, where a regular overhead projector would make more sense..
Maybe for the states. But I could get this projector for 77 inch TV. I got mine for about 1.2k USD with Android TV 11. my screen size is 150inch. Double the size for the same price or lower than your TV.
The dead pixels on the camera sensor at 11:22 made my heart drop, because my screen is an LG OLED xDDDDDD
"Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stuck bright pixels already??"
I have a Optoma GT5600 Ultra Short Throw 1080P bulb projector ($900) on a 120" Elite Screen ($1,333) in my living room with moderate light and I love it. I wanted a laser 4K but couldn't justify the price, maybe for my next one. I upgraded from a long throw 1080i Panasonic projector that was probably 12 years old. I love that we can play Wi and Kinect games without blocking the image.
Android 9 is a point off immediately
This is why when you buy a $3,000 projector, you should be hooking up a $100 Roku Ultra or similar and not spend much time thinking about the crappy built in OS for sure.
On the plus side, this projector just won a shootout as the best dark room projector on the market today. Besting the highly rated Formovie Theater projector.
I have been waiting for about 10 years for this!
Dang, sweet sweet price!! i am liking this already. This will change the game since all of this short throw projectors basically cost like buying a new house
This reminds me, recently the incredible IMAX theatre at the Royal BC Museum recently upgraded to 4K laser projectors. On a 6 story-high screen that is honestly pretty incredible. Black levels especially are so much better than at other theatres that don't use laser projectors.
Laser is a light source and has almost no bearing whatsoever on contrast. There are other factors which improve contrast in DLP projectors, most notably ALPD technology in many UST projectors that do a great job improving contrast. But, it's absolutely not the laser which is what improves contrast. This video was incredibly wrong in stating such a thing.
Lasers do add an incredible amount to the color gamut though which lets them hit the full P3 color space and can even hit all of the BT2020 color space on some models. This extended color can impact the look of things and the appearance of contrast, as color accuracy can make things look sharper and higher in contrast due to the added color saturation.
Your 4K IMAX theater uses a quarter of a million dollar projector... THAT is why it looks so awesome. It's a huge step forward compared to other digital cinema projectors. But, even those projectors are all using lasers as well, I promise you.
I just upgraded to a about 450€ 1080p Projector, standard design obviously and have a 120" screen and it's awesome. bare in mind my last one was a 100€ chinese projector. But yeah, in some years when my current projector is not good anymore I will upgrade to a laser projector.
Linus's silhouette in front on that projects had some serious Lion king vibes (referring to the OG openings on the classic lion king)
Linus you do realize the only acceptable place to have motion blur is a racing game, cause if done right it can help with the sense of speed like in need for speed shift 2 and drive club
LTT video quality so crisp I can watch it without my glasses and it looks good.
Oh good, just 1k for the grey screen
that "input" button is BAAAAD, there is a specific set of icons for various things and they need to use them. I really hope they change that sooner rather than later, hopefully it's not too hard to change the printing on one button.
Interesting. I did look at this a few weeks back. They've bumped the price +$700 from $1999 for this review which is a bit disappointing. Also shipping to the UK was something stupid like $250. Probably makes the Fengmi/Formovie models more attractive with the price increase.
Love my nexigo pj40. Have it setup in the bedroom and absolutely love it.
Ive gad a Nexigo p20 for almost 2 years now, its absolutely perfect, I have a massive screen where we can do movie nights and game. Of coursr its not the same quality as a great screen, but its super low profile and having it on thr entire wall is actually better than any image quality.
The cons:
-It has to be dark, otherwise you can't really see well.
-Unless you have a really big wall, consider a TV
-No smart connections per se, light screen mirroring casting etc, just plain old hdmi and the sound is good wnough for the kids, not for any form of superior entertainement.
Ah yes, $3k. Or, you can buy a 77" OLED for less and not have a fake 4K projector that needs to be in the dark.
Can't forget the extra $1k for a screen.
But then it's only 77"...
i was very sceptical too at first glance too & if u never had seen one, cant say anything against it. my uncle got himself an UST projector from a different known brand. provides a extremely sharp picture at 110" and yes on daylight its a bit more washed out, but that like every tv & its more than watchable (tho i believe ALR screen helps alot with that too). he paid 2400+600$ for the projector & screen but both were on a sale obv. Also to mention he switched from a 70" OLED i cant speak for nexigo quality. but in the end all perform more or less the same way.
so in the end its WAY cheaper and prob provides a WAY better experience than a tv does at that size. its even easier to move around compared a tv thats at this size as heavy as a car
Tell me you don't know what target audience means without telling me you don't know what target audience means.
🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry... How much did you say that 120" OLED television was? I'll wait here while you look up the pricing of that display.
They have come a long way with this kind of tech
Would I be able to use my completely flat white window blinds as my projector screen? I love the idea of not having a massive TV in my room but if I have a big sheet it kinda takes away the point
Linus really dropped the ball in this video by not showing how to mount it above a fireplace for optimum viewing.
He had to drop something
I love how they already added the guides to the site. Little gripes like rhat can really ruin the experience. Good job nexigo, im super interested!
I really liked when i only saw linus as a black figure and the video playing in the background, it looked really cool
My problem with projectors is the cost. Yeah, for the price of $4000 you can get a nice 100" 4K screen, but most people don't need a screen that big or even have the space for it. More likely a screen of 60-70 inches is the size they will use, which means the projector itself costs double of even top quality 4K HDR OLED TV from LG or Samsung. There's no market for it if you're looking for a screen size under 80 inches at the prices that a merely "good" projector will cost let alone a great one like this.
A 100" screen means you have to sit back further than a 70-inch screen. The only use case for this is for a big room where a group of people need to watch.
@@Zoyx Yep, and even then most people don't have space for a 100" screen anywhere in their home, so it makes no sense getting a projector that costs three large and another four hundred bucks for a 60" screen when you can get a damn good 60" OLED TV for less than two grand.
@@TheZoenGaming - Define most? If 10% of people have room for this size, then that's a huge market. If they have room for a 85" television, they may very well have room for a 100" screen, or better yet, a 120" screen.
I will have to go into my basement and tell my 161" screen that it isn't allowed to fit in there either.
If you want the immersion of front projection, then you make a space for it. Keep in mind, a long throw projector and a pull down screen can drop in front of windows and in front of doorways or closets just fine. I've installed motorized screens into custom built bookcases.
Your lack of wall space may be more a you issue than a 'everyone' issue.
@@paulvail7926 I'd say that considerably less than 10% of the population of first-world nations has the room let alone the finances for a 100" screen and this projector. Our household is dual-income and we bring in around 100K a year yet we rarely spend more than $1000 on a single electronic device. We live in a 3,200 sq. ft. home and only one room has an uninterrupted wall large enough for this projector's 80" minimum screen size and that's the dining room. While its wall is long enough for a 100" screen, the room is not deep enough to seat anyone at the proper viewing distance for an 80" screen let alone 100". This type of issue is more common than not, and it's probably only about 1%-2% of the population in first-world nations that can actually make use of and afford this projector and its screen.
Also, I've known two people who put a screen so that it dropped in front of windows, and there tends to be a lot of light bleed around the edges which detracts from it, and one's wife got so fed up with not being able to see out the windows for the kid's getting off the bus while watching TV that she demanded he redo the living room setup.
Literally anyone looking for a projector wants a big screen. It's already a niche and big selling point. Your comment is useless.
It's kinda wild how it projects up and at an angle.
I had a nebula 4K. But 2k price for nebula is not cheap. Looks stunning. I may try this one
100 dollar 130 inch pull down screen, 70 dollar off brand 1080p projector and a 40 dollar blutooth soundbar.....Its hard to stomach that price. My whole setup including game consoles, dvd player, adapters and cords didnt cost that
The hot pixels at 11:20 made me think I needed a new TV for a minute 😅
I feel like there's probably a plugin in Premiere that could catch and compensate for those.
My heart skipped a beat for a second when i thought something happened to my 40" ultra-wide monitor lol
enjoyed this, much better quality now.
I just had a realization that these short throw laser projects are basically DLP tvs
When Linus said "Tv like experience"
Linus said they were working on saying prices at their effective value (rounding up the 99s), so I'm a little disappointed he said the price was $2999.99/$2699.99 instead of $3000/$2700
based on how this was sponsored by nexigo and their comments during the video, I think nexigo had a strong hand in directing this video. Considering the recent faffery with the video quality, it's possible that LTT compromised on minor things like price verbiage just to keep the cash flowing in.
This may be part of the contract, since this is a showcase and not a review.
is ur entire identity based on rounding up $1
@@Hittsy so do we cancel linus again for not rounding up? my pitchfork is confused
@@Hittsy Yeah. It's arguably more accurate, and it's an incredibly minor detail to worry about. It's better if they maintain accuracy in their tests and spec reporting.
So what happens if you want to actually mount the short throw projector on the ceiling (not able to use a media console due to space constraints) --- would you have to put the screen upside down?
Yes! Check the video by The Hook Up where he does exactly this. You can mount most UST/ALR screens upside down and they won't reject ceiling ambient light anymore, but light coming from the sides will still be very effectively bounced away. Note that NOT all UST projectors can be ceiling mounted. I know the Epson LS800 can be.
Okay, but will this be a comparable replacement for my Klipsch R-25C center speaker? Can it even insert itself as the dedicated center speaker in an existing surround setup? Because that's precisely where it would end up going unless I get creative or get another media cabinet that stores my R-25C speaker below the top surface where this would sit.
Comparing it with a ridiculously expensive 10k 100 inch TV and then saying it's quarter the price like it's a great deal.
It's fairly priced for what it is. It's not a great deal. Don't be crazy. But, there are UST projectors that also cost a good deal more than this which don't look as good either. Spending twice as much money on a projector that doesn't look better is certainly possible to do and would truly be wasteful. On the other hand, how much would it cost you to get a 120" television in your home?
Freesync would be a game changer. Not having to worry about installing a big tv by myself would be a godsend >
98 inch TCL tv looks amazing and is under $4k
Ya with 85" TV's starting at $750 now it's hard to justify a projector. The 85" in our basement already feels huge
Could you do a budget 4k projector showdown on ltt? Ive recently bought an Epson EH TW 6150 on sale and would be interested in how the similar options from BenG etc hold up. For most people i feel as if these high end projectors are a non-option.
That would be great. I just got the Epson EH TW 6250 not sure if that is the same as you got. It was around $900 or so. I think my whole system with projector, atmos receiever, speakers etc was less than the $3k of this projector they showcased 😉
Yeah, as much as I would love one I couldn't justify this over a good 75 inch oled which is what your talking about in the same price bracket. I can't see choosing a projector over that for a main viewing platform. In the case of a set up where you have a dedicated theater room where you have a large screen you probably are just going to go overhead instead of short throw. Frankly the quality of TV's now though makes a theater room less appealing now though. This is just one of those products that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Frankly the more common use I have for a projector is something like having everyone sitting around it during a holiday or party watching something for fun. In that case something like portability and ease of set up matter a lot more than that because I am more likely to be using it outside. Like I would love a short throw projector for use on my deck where we could watch something outside or by a hottub/pool. That said the main concern there is something portable and easy to set up and price under 500.
I think part of the problem projectors face is just how good the middle end TV's have become. It has gotten to the point where rather than a projector I can just buy a cheap TV and build a mobile cart for it and store it in a shed or garage.
Plenty of websites which do reviews and shootouts. The Hook Up does a great job with shootouts. But, the TW6150 (HC2350 in USA) is a half 4K pixel shifting projector with mediocre black levels. It doesn't match the quality of the DLP competition like the BenQ TK700 or HT3550 which will have better black levels and true 4K pixel shifting technology. There is a lot of discussion on AVS and elsewhere which gets into these types of nuances. Epson's a solid brand, but there are some tradeoffs between their LCD tech and others that use DLP, and then there is Sony and JVC using LCoS and having the only native 4K panels in the game. JVC is the only one capable of true 4K/120hz and 4K/240hz playback.
I remember older projectors used to have the problem of having to buy bulbs.
What is the longevity for the lasers in the projector?
between 20 000 - 30 000 hours, approximately 12 years if you use it for 8 hours a day, five days a week. (& proper care) but as TV LED's they can last longer as advertised or bit shorter.
if it fails, it cant be replaced tho iirc - so u have to buy a new projector when it surpasses its lifespan
A nearly 3 grand projector being described as very usable either shows how elite linus had gotten or how average the projector is
In a dark room, this projector is one of the best UST models on the planet right now. Projectors do NOT look as good as a good television though. So, saying it looks amazing, when OLED exists would be a lie. Very usable in a room with a lot of ambient light is a very fair statement. When the lights are completely out, this projector can look stunning. When compared to other UST projectors, it just won a recent shootout, which speaks volumes to the image quality.
If you've ever seen a projector in a room with ambient light, you generally will find they look quite poor. Weak to lousy would be an accurate term. So, don't read more into 'very usable' other than a compliment of it doing a good job to deliver a enjoyable image with a fair bit of light in the room. If you want very good projection in a room with ambient light, you have to step up to a brighter projector, like the Epson LS800 or the AWOL LTV-3500 which are significantly brighter than the Nexigo. Then, dark room viewing will take a hit.
The lack of reflections on the screen like a normal TV would be an interesting comparison with a projector in a everyday living room. Any sort of window reflecting on a normal TV is such a pain to watch when you can see the reflection.
Why are the black bars top/bottom and the black screens in between content all showing up as grey with the lights off?
I would understand it from a bulb projector because bright light through filter is still gonna spill through, similar to backlit LCD.. but this is laser so shouldn't have that problem?
with this projector and screen combo, what are the footlamberts coming off the screen?
"Freznel Lens". I haven't heard that mispronunciation in a while. Per Wikipedia, "The name is pronounced /freɪˈnɛl/ (fray-NELL), the 's' is silent."
Following the extensive conversations on the WAN show about deceptive advertising practices for projectors, such as fabricated wall images and omitted power cables, it's intriguing that you're comfortable endorsing a product that embodies all these misleading marketing tactics. EDIT: And it's a 120Hz input not output??
Doesn't everyone have a bucket of c13 cords somewhere?
And he used their 99 price instead of rounding up like he said their team was going to do.
@@SamuraiGuythey gave up on the 99 thing a while ago, he also mentioned it in another wan show that they were not going to be doing that.
@@mitchellwilson12354 I mostly listen to the wan show in the background, so that's on me if I missed that.
@@mitchellwilson12354 I mostly listen to the wan show in the background, so that's on me if I missed that.
I don't know if anybody else saw this but at around 6: 54 as he waves his hand across the screen the small character on the screen opens her eyes and follows his hand.
Laser projectors are also significantly less noisy because there is less heat than a lamp projector
Got a cheap Wemax 4k UST last year and love it
Is dust accumulation worse on these since the lens is flat instead of vertical?
Can the unit be used as a center speaker in a surround sound setup?
I see you had to manually shut off that aputure soft box, do you think you could use a lighting programmer? :O I could also do it with some fun networking :)
Does one of your cameras have a couple dead pixels, or is that just dust on the lens? at 11:51
what i would like to know is how much heat it puts out as my old projector put out a lot of heat
I'm so excited for a product I will never own.
Now Ima go back to my 32" CRT to play games on my 40yr console I got for $20 years ago.
I love Linus 😂😂 But just to point something out. I think you meant to say it supports 4k 120hz input, not output. Still a fun cool video and I am happy Linus didnt just stop being on camera because we all make mistakes & I think he is wicked funny so.... just happy he didnt just sell off the business and call it quits
dust & pet hair seems to be a major issue with short throws?
As a former stage theater guy, your pronunciation of Fresnel killed me.
The game DOES run at 120 in performance mode and the menu button on the front page has settings for motion blur
Does it have any spyware on that Android distro like most of the TV boxes?
is it possible to mount a short throw projector on the ceiling, flip the image. so you could essentially have the screen above a fireplace etc. i.e places that don't have space for the device as such a fireplace surround aren't deep
Yes, but the offset is fixed on these models. You have 8" of projector height, and the image starts another 12" (or so) above/below the projector itself. So, you need enough room to mount it all and it must be VERY carefully mounted. The Hook Up does a video where they do exactly this and show it in use. You have to flip over the ALR screen as well so that it doesn't reject the light from the projector itself.
Are there any screens available for this UST in 150in that are electric/motorized?
You wrecked the sensor on the camera showing Linus from the side view, lol. Noticed the green pixels immediately on a dark background.
It's only minor, but that camera's sensor will forever be like that now. Around 11:55 in the vid to the right of Linus' Head towards the middle and top of the screen.
That's why the spent hundred of thousands of dollars for their camera rigs... Even in complete darkness, those camaras are holding up PERFECTLY!
Thumbs up for Linus siluette
What's the point of the 120hz HDMI input if it can't output 120hz?
You should have a look at the Leica Cine 1. When calibrated correctly, that projector produces stunning pictures
For $9K it’d better produce more than stunning pictures.
Would the image being projected be better if you use 2 short throw projectors? 1 at the bottom and another one at the top?
Sync them in alternating 60 fps?
I can hear all the guys behind camera wince at Linus’ pronunciation of “Frezznel”
3:50 That pronunciation of Fresnel. 😂😂
I really wish the companies that are making these UST laser projectors would release one that doesn't have the speakers in it. It would allow them to shrink the size a bit, plus most people that are looking at a projector already have surround sound and aren't going to use the speaker in the projector at all.
When is eARC going to stop being a highlighted feature? I feel like it should be standard out of box I/0 at this point
Those input lag numbers are impressive for a projector
What happened to the Secret Shopper Pt2 that was announced to be uploaded yesterday?
After watching this, I think we need an LTT Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode.
That’s looks sick af
It’s been months since I watched this channel, previously being a daily consumer. I do not miss Linus at all.
11:37 What are those white pixels on the right? Camera defect?
Is it able to project well with a 150” screen?
I just paid that for a OLED TV. It's not 100 inches, but I would recommend that over a projector. It's cool projector but given the price being similar to OLED tvs, how could you pass up not having the OLED.