I was at penn state from 2017-2023 (I took time off dont flame me) and what you said about Bo Nickal being a super star in state college was so accurate. He was flashy and fun to watch, and on the level of our top football stars around campus. And that pin he had against Myles Martin for the chip AND team title is still talked about
I remember watching David Taylor always take his ankle band off and putting it down the way Jason nolf did .. I believe the first time I saw it was the Big 10 finals Taylor Vs St. John
@Th3Chuzzl3r Brooks didn't get to wrestle for the championship in 2020 because Covid canceled the tournament. He had 4 shots at it just like those other guys did
@@Th3Chuzzl3ryes, use your brain though. Cause Brooks ISNT a 5x AA. He WASN’T allowed to go to nationals because of Covid. So he’s only be to nationals 4 times and he’s won ALL 4 times. Try again.
Ughhh this is so subjective and so difficult so I really think this comes down to a few things! Best wrestlers just Penn State career or freestyle included because that makes a huge difference! Just at Penn State 1.Aaron Brooks 2.Carter starocci 3.Bo nickal 4.zain Retherford Honorable mentions Ed Ruth Jason nolf David Taylor Freestyle included 1.David Taylor 2.Zain Retherford 3.Aaron Brooks 4.Kerry McCoy Bo nickal to me beating Gabe dean and then beating Myles Martin also having wins 3 times in one year over Moore wins over Nick reenan and Drew Foster and Max dean to me had way bigger names David Taylor won 2 however not very big names he beat! I believe ppl sleep on ppl bo beat 2x ncaa Champ Gabe dean 1x ncaa champ Myles Martin 1x ncaa champ Max dean 1x ncaa champ Drew Foster win over Nate jackson and nick reenan also has win over zahid in freestyle and 6-0 in mma repping state college😂! But overall love the video love the discussion and really depends on what all is being judged and just college or freestyle as well! Excited for trials💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿🐻 Also when in doubt just put cael on there 4 times since 90 percent of ppl on lists he coached😂😂😂
Carter Starocci: 77-4 career record, 95.06% win rate, 50.85% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA Champ, U23 World Bronze, 2x Bronze World Team Trials Bo Nickal; 120-3 career record, 97.56% win rate, 77.64% bonus rate, 3x Big 10 Champ, 1x Big 10 Bronze, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, US Open Champ, U23 World Champ, Silver World Team Trials, Silver at Olympic Trials Zain Retherford; 125-3 career record, 97.66% win rate, 77.13% bonus rate, 3x Big 10 Champ, 4x Big 10 finalist, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x All American, 2x Hodge Trophy Winner, 1x Senior World Champ, 2x Senior World Finalist Jason Nolf; 115-3 career record, 97.46% win rate, 87.34% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 2x US Open Champ, 1x US Open Bronze, 2x Silver World Team Trials Aaron Brooks; 89-3 career record, 96.74% win rate, 62.99% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 5x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA champ, 5x All American, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, U23 World Champ, US Open Champ, Silver World Team Trials David Taylor; 134-3, career record, 97.81% win rate, 88.32% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 2x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, 3x US Open Champ, 6x US Open finalist, 3x World Champ, 4x World Finalist, 1x Olympic Champ Just some stats and data on some of the more recent Penn State studs. I think it is important to include freestyle accomplishments in addition to folkstyle because freestyle is a huge part of Penn State's success. We have seen guys transfer there just for the freestyle aspect like Greg Kerkvliet. Additionally, Penn State spends a ton of time preparing their wrestlers for the rest of their career outside of college using the NLWC. Interestingly, despite having the fewest matches out of anyone on the list, Carter has the lowest win rate AND the lowest bonus rate.
Pick8ng Howard Johnson to be on the Mt Rushmore of PSU is a prime example of trying to be too clever bro. I wouldn't put that guy anywhere near a Mt Rushmore argument let alone the Mountain top
We opted not to include coaches, so Cael was out since he didn't wrestle at Penn State. But if there was a coaching Mount Rushmore, he would be all four heads.
can someone explain how a guy is on a mt rushmore that has 2 ncaa titles loss 2 times in the finals 1 by getting stuck via cradle over guys that have 4 and 3 ncaa titles?
@ozguraydn8407 and taylor isn't close to starocci in national championships! GOATS get beat taylor just couldn't rise to the occasion.. no shame in losing to dake but he was also PINNED in the finals.. you failed to defend him on that one..
@@arizonaron5149 Carter Starocci: 77-4 career record, 95.06% win rate, 50.85% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA Champ, U23 World Bronze, 2x Bronze World Team Trials David Taylor; 134-3, career record, 97.81% win rate, 88.32% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 2x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, 3x US Open Champ, 6x US Open finalist, 3x World Champ, 4x World Finalist, 1x Olympic Champ Direct comparison of Carter and David's careers. Two of David Taylor's losses came to Kyle Dake who is widely considered to be the 2nd best collegiate wrestler of all time. Interestingly, despite having less than 60% of David's total matches, Carter has the lowest win rate AND the lowest bonus rate.
Ed Ruth is too dark skinned to be mentioned by PSU fans. Brother is a 3x ncaa champion and a 4x all American and nobody named him. Gotta love PSU fans.
I'm a little confused by your comment. Ed Ruth was named, and was heavily debated at the end of the video with it coming down to him, Bo Nickal and Kerry McCoy. Ruth would finish in second, beating Bo Nickal and losing to Kerry McCoy. Half of the Penn State Mount Rushmore is black, but we opted to judge them as wrestlers and their accomplishments, rather than their skin color.
I was at penn state from 2017-2023 (I took time off dont flame me) and what you said about Bo Nickal being a super star in state college was so accurate. He was flashy and fun to watch, and on the level of our top football stars around campus. And that pin he had against Myles Martin for the chip AND team title is still talked about
If Rutherford would've redshirted his freshman year he goes down as a 4x undefeated champ
Olympic trials predictions
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Carter
Brooks
Nickel
Taylor
Honorable:
Nolf
Zain
Nolf and Zain above Brooks imo, you give either of those dudes 5 years eligibility they are both 4timers easy, Same thing with Ed Ruth.
I remember watching David Taylor always take his ankle band off and putting it down the way Jason nolf did .. I believe the first time I saw it was the Big 10 finals Taylor Vs St. John
I think Quintin Wright has to be up there…because he was Caels first natty champ
Being 4x champs Brooks & Carter are an automatic. I'd add Retherford & David Taylor. Hard to exclude the other greats but there can only be 4
Brooks had 5 years of eligibility, Nolf,Zain, and Ruth are all 4timers with an extra year
@Th3Chuzzl3r Brooks didn't get to wrestle for the championship in 2020 because Covid canceled the tournament. He had 4 shots at it just like those other guys did
@@dramaking9377 he got an extra year of eligibility, like daton fix, thats why daton was a 5x aa
@@Th3Chuzzl3ryes, use your brain though. Cause Brooks ISNT a 5x AA. He WASN’T allowed to go to nationals because of Covid. So he’s only be to nationals 4 times and he’s won ALL 4 times. Try again.
U r tripping. What’s to assume Aaron wouldn’t have won in 2020 if tourney took place? So u hold an opportunity he didn’t have against him? 🤨
Brooks, Carter, Bo, and Nolf. 4 x finalists. 3 and 4 x champion's. Other 3x champs placed lower in their 4th year. I just keep it simple.
ZAIN, MCCOY, TAYLOR, NICKAL
Ughhh this is so subjective and so difficult so I really think this comes down to a few things! Best wrestlers just Penn State career or freestyle included because that makes a huge difference!
Just at Penn State
1.Aaron Brooks
2.Carter starocci
3.Bo nickal
4.zain Retherford
Honorable mentions
Ed Ruth
Jason nolf
David Taylor
Freestyle included
1.David Taylor
2.Zain Retherford
3.Aaron Brooks
4.Kerry McCoy
Bo nickal to me beating Gabe dean and then beating Myles Martin also having wins 3 times in one year over Moore wins over Nick reenan and Drew Foster and Max dean to me had way bigger names David Taylor won 2 however not very big names he beat! I believe ppl sleep on ppl bo beat 2x ncaa Champ Gabe dean 1x ncaa champ Myles Martin 1x ncaa champ Max dean 1x ncaa champ Drew Foster win over Nate jackson and nick reenan also has win over zahid in freestyle and 6-0 in mma repping state college😂! But overall love the video love the discussion and really depends on what all is being judged and just college or freestyle as well! Excited for trials💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿🐻
Also when in doubt just put cael on there 4 times since 90 percent of ppl on lists he coached😂😂😂
Carter Starocci: 77-4 career record, 95.06% win rate, 50.85% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA Champ, U23 World Bronze, 2x Bronze World Team Trials
Bo Nickal; 120-3 career record, 97.56% win rate, 77.64% bonus rate, 3x Big 10 Champ, 1x Big 10 Bronze, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, US Open Champ, U23 World Champ, Silver World Team Trials, Silver at Olympic Trials
Zain Retherford; 125-3 career record, 97.66% win rate, 77.13% bonus rate, 3x Big 10 Champ, 4x Big 10 finalist, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x All American, 2x Hodge Trophy Winner, 1x Senior World Champ, 2x Senior World Finalist
Jason Nolf; 115-3 career record, 97.46% win rate, 87.34% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 3x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 2x US Open Champ, 1x US Open Bronze, 2x Silver World Team Trials
Aaron Brooks; 89-3 career record, 96.74% win rate, 62.99% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 5x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA champ, 5x All American, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, U23 World Champ, US Open Champ, Silver World Team Trials
David Taylor; 134-3, career record, 97.81% win rate, 88.32% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 2x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, 3x US Open Champ, 6x US Open finalist, 3x World Champ, 4x World Finalist, 1x Olympic Champ
Just some stats and data on some of the more recent Penn State studs. I think it is important to include freestyle accomplishments in addition to folkstyle because freestyle is a huge part of Penn State's success. We have seen guys transfer there just for the freestyle aspect like Greg Kerkvliet. Additionally, Penn State spends a ton of time preparing their wrestlers for the rest of their career outside of college using the NLWC.
Interestingly, despite having the fewest matches out of anyone on the list, Carter has the lowest win rate AND the lowest bonus rate.
You included 16 wins from Carter's redshirt season. He only has 77 official wins
I didn’t think Aaron brooks was a 5x AA?
@@xzjayz7925 He was a covid year All American
Pick8ng Howard Johnson to be on the Mt Rushmore of PSU is a prime example of trying to be too clever bro. I wouldn't put that guy anywhere near a Mt Rushmore argument let alone the Mountain top
Bo is number one
1. Cael Sanderson
2. Carter Starrocci
3. Zain Retherford
4. Aaron Brooks
We opted not to include coaches, so Cael was out since he didn't wrestle at Penn State. But if there was a coaching Mount Rushmore, he would be all four heads.
@@michaellong2595 ok. This is my Mount Rushmore of Penn State wrestling. But wrestlers only... I'll put David Taylor as #4
Need Carter Starocci
Johnston pinned Polio
Rutherford and Storocci are on there before Bo
1. Brooks
2. Zain R
3. Carter S
4. Taylor
5. Nolf
6. Bo
7. Ruth
can someone explain how a guy is on a mt rushmore that has 2 ncaa titles loss 2 times in the finals 1 by getting stuck via cradle over guys that have 4 and 3 ncaa titles?
Because he is the best wrestler out of all 😂. Having 1 embarrassing loss is bad but look at his bonus. Carter is not even close to Taylor's dominance
One of those loses was to arguably the GOAT of college wrestling
@ozguraydn8407 and taylor isn't close to starocci in national championships! GOATS get beat taylor just couldn't rise to the occasion.. no shame in losing to dake but he was also PINNED in the finals.. you failed to defend him on that one..
@@arizonaron5149 Carter Starocci: 77-4 career record, 95.06% win rate, 50.85% bonus rate, 2x Big 10 Champ, 3x Big 10 finalist, 4x NCAA Champ, U23 World Bronze, 2x Bronze World Team Trials
David Taylor; 134-3, career record, 97.81% win rate, 88.32% bonus rate, 4x Big 10 Champ, 2x NCAA Champ, 4x NCAA finalist, 1x Hodge Trophy Winner, 3x US Open Champ, 6x US Open finalist, 3x World Champ, 4x World Finalist, 1x Olympic Champ
Direct comparison of Carter and David's careers. Two of David Taylor's losses came to Kyle Dake who is widely considered to be the 2nd best collegiate wrestler of all time.
Interestingly, despite having less than 60% of David's total matches, Carter has the lowest win rate AND the lowest bonus rate.
Probably something to do with being the pfp best wrestler in the world and 4 world or Olympic championships? Idk though call me crazy…
Carter
Aaron
Zain
Ed
The first one would have to be Kale obviously Starcci and Zane should be on it.
DT Carter and brooks by default. Then it gets tough. I’m leaning Bo or Zane over Ruth or nolf
For the algo
Ed Ruth is too dark skinned to be mentioned by PSU fans. Brother is a 3x ncaa champion and a 4x all American and nobody named him. Gotta love PSU fans.
I'm a little confused by your comment. Ed Ruth was named, and was heavily debated at the end of the video with it coming down to him, Bo Nickal and Kerry McCoy. Ruth would finish in second, beating Bo Nickal and losing to Kerry McCoy.
Half of the Penn State Mount Rushmore is black, but we opted to judge them as wrestlers and their accomplishments, rather than their skin color.
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Yeah no
@@Rytoast99 I would argue yes since he had that long win streak and almost 3 peated
has same amount of ncaa titles as david taylor..
Dear God 😬 Drag it out and make it painfully boring 😢 . 10 minutes and I'm gone.
Hey, you made it through 25% of the video, not bad.