David Carr v. Mitchell Mesenbrink: 2024 NCAA wrestling championship (165 pounds)
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- David Carr won the 2024 NCAA wrestling championship with a win over Penn State's Mitchell Mesenbrink.
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So happy for David Carr, was rooting for him the entire tournament. My friends told me he would lose to O tootle or mesenbrick but they got proved wrong
We?
@@bexo34 ya we won because David Carr won because Jesus won
@@bexo34 he and whoever else believed O’Toole and Mesenbrink would win ncaas
We ? C’mon you just stay on the swim team, it’s all good 😆
@@bubbletum8399 riiiight I forgot about how DC thanked you right after he thanked JC and his family
The stalling was absolutely ridiculous in this match. 3 stalls on David Carr is ridiculous.
Your bugging he was stalling no question
all good 100% Jesus Though
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@arballs 😂, stalled right into a TD huh, gtfoh
@@arballslmao 2 takedowns and 2 minutes of riding time but he’s not being active apparently
Ref was really trying to screw David in this one. So glad he came out with the W such a class act and humble guy
not really, imo very good refing this match
Absolutely terrible by the referee. Called one stalling as Carr was let up out of bounds and they both waited for a whistle, and another as Carr got a takedown
That dude shouldn't be allowed to ref elementary kids, let alone college 🤣
Carr, Mesenbrink, O’Toole are the reason I love college wrestling! Congrats to all three young men!
I am really glad David Carr won. I disagreed with the stalling calls; especially the one that came a fraction of a second before he got the takedown. Glad he won in spite of the refs.
D.C and Burroughs picked up on that. I posted earlier. The 2nd period stalling was not justified. The last 30 seconds you could say he stalled. That was not called there. I like both guys. Actually all 3 counting Keegan. The real winners are the fans that got to see these matches.
Carr called for stalling immediately after he escapes from the bottom. Carr called for stalling as he gets takedown. They really didn’t want him winning. Crazy.
I was thinking the same thing.
Penn state got them refs in their pockets, it was quite evident
Terrible calls. No excuse for the first 2. Pathetic. No wonder everyone says psu gets favorited with stall calls. Pathetic.
Escapes instant stall call. Stall call as a takedown happens. Ref trying to give away a match.
Gets called for stalling and immediately gets a takedown, nice job refs
Yeah I wondered about that call too.
Those refs are lucky Carr won because they would have caught so much heat from that match.
Sometimes a stall call is what it takes to motivate guys.
As he was shooting and getting a takedown he gets called for stalling. Amazing.
Refs are jokes david carr was the more offensive wrestler shouldnt even been that close
He is a 2x national champ and a 4x conf. champ. He doesnt need to stall. He is not nervous. He is not cautious. Ref made this match way too close.
before the second stall call, there was FIVE seconds between the ref blowing the whistle to initiate wrestling, and David Carr taking a shot (and then scoring). insane
David Carr beat a worthy opponent and the referee. NCAA needs to rein in the stall warnings and calls. I hate to see great matches decided by the official. That was a great match. Messinbrink brought it but Carr was a little better. Also, gotta know score, time, criteria at all times. Fun to watch.
Idc who won but the backing up like crazy is exactly what people criticize fix for haha
@@Tlack333 yeah excerpt fox has no offense. Carr got called for stalling seconds. before he got a takedown. Mesenbrinks points came from passive things like escapes and the referee giving him free points.
Wrestle PSU and the Ref's.. Carr was not to be denied.
Wow, He had the hardest Road ever in a tournament! He beat Hamiti, Keegan, and beat a cocky Messenbrink!! Oh, and he beat all the commentators, including Burroughs and DC. They were just rooting against him, but I’m not surprised. Great job Carr!!
Why is Mitchell cocky?
The finger waving and the gesturing to crowds after wins. For the record, I don’t think he’s cocky, but I could see how someone could
Cocky lmao😂 dudes just having fun he was literally down and was wagging his finger. He loves to wrestle win or lose. Just say you don’t like watching people have fun
Mitchell is a very humble guy like David is. PSU fan but no problem with David winning. Great match
After Carr won the announcing crew ignored him to heap praise on the guy he just thoroughly beat while getting screwed on calls.
So thankful for the uploads. I haven't missed a championship in probably 20 years. I no longer have cable so this is great.
I completely agree. Last 2 tournaments i’ve been busy and havent got to catch them so its cool I get to catch them on my down time here on YT
@@KurohigeLoso they been doing the finals for a couple of years so it’s good.
Another example where the refs are hyper focused on making sure they insert themselves into the finals match. Stalling is not called like that in a normal dual
In favor of Penn state. There were calls that should have been made that weren’t…refs might as well have had blue and white stripes.
I know right
100% a piss poor referee performance. They tried to rob this young man!
Husband saying same things. Refs are trying to decide matches. It’s too much. But college stalling is a whole different game. You have to always be heading to the circle.
@@lindal8596 You can't have it both ways, which is it?
Pretty sure those insane stalling calls were from the same Ref, which with video review, made the call that Braeden Davis wasn't taken down by Vinny Kilkeary. This guy is a joke and a PSU homer and shouldn't be allowed to ref in college anymore. He literally tried to steal that match from David Carr. He almost stalled David Carr out of the wrestling match.
Wanttobeawrestlermichael it’s not high school. Learn the rules. PSU isn’t going anywhere so live with it.
That was Nick Grosso. This was Angel Rivera. Both are huge Cael fans and probably paid off by Ira Lubert who is the billionaire PSU slush fund king
Nope Angel reffed the next match with Carter and Rocco, Called Rocco for stalling twice in the first and zero calls on Carter in the 3rd. Which agaiin was very biased. @@ricki-bobby
@@WrestlerMichaelI was replying to the comment about the dual match between Davis and Kilkeary. That was Nick Grosso not Rivera but both guys are huge PSU homers
that boy carr is a dawg!
Wagging your finger while losing and then losing on riding time gotta be one of the funniest things I've seen in wrestling in a long time.
Brooo I thought I was the only one who thought this💀😭😭
Carr was absolutely gassed in the 3rd and it's amazing he pulled it out. Pure heart.
Where all those stall calls during the regular season?🙄 Doesn’t matter though, David Carr is a national champion again!
😂 he tried putting the pace on Carr and got double legged instantly
The ref needs to be investigated. That was so beyond absurd.
This was awesome! Congrats to David Carr, God Bless!
That Keegan O'Toole vs Mitchell Mesenbrink final is gonna be so hype! Oh wait..... 😂😂😂
Carr got lucky Keegan got tired
@@shazam3458you sound soooooo STUPID!!!🤷🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@shazam3458 Wouldn’t call that luck
Luck. Yeah maybe a little bit but who got the first td in the first seconds of the match and rode for almost the whole first period. If Mitch wanted to win he should have escaped and got takedowns of his own in the first 20 seconds. Carr won get over it
If you've EVER wrestled before (or trained for it), you would know that's not how it works. If anything, the level of conditioning is one giant variable that determines who the better wrestler is. If your guy got tired, that's not "luck", that's on him. He should work harder next time.
the refs tried to take away it from carr, but he had something else in mind
It’s Carrs fault he kept going backwards lol that’s not the refs fault that’s the rules so if you blame anyone blame Carr for making it close. Glad he won tho
@@someguynamedsteve37533 stalls on Carr is crazy.
@@someguynamedsteve3753the refs were inconsistent as hell. If they were the same every match, there would have been a lot more calls in other matches. It was 2 vs 1 and Carr won anyway.
@@dannymurphy3907 they were not that inconsistent like you are suggesting they were more or less the same
@@someguynamedsteve3753he got called for stalling when trying to match return while messenbrink was running out of bounds. By definition messenbrink should have been called for stalling in those situations.
Without a doubt the best ncaa wrestling finals ever these guys just did not quit
They were trying to rob him of this title. Other than the push out, which was a warning all those other stalls were based on the refs preferring messenbrinks style. Care did more than other matches that were stalled for the full first and second period. Carr out wrestled him, messenbrink should’ve been down 4 pts in this match, the frustration from the stall calls allowed messenbrink to score. I don’t care if messenbrink fake shots aren’t stalling.
Jeez, the refs are getting so bold in their attempt to steal matches. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. Investigation worthy.
Mesinbrink got a great seed. Keegan really got screwed as the 1 seed with Carr in his half. Its hard to beat a wrestler 9f Carr's calibar so many times before Carr is going to win one of them.
Congratulations to Carr he wrestled an amazing Tournament beating KO and Hamiti
*Mesinbrink wrestled a great tourney too but Carr deserved the Natty
Carr should have been the 3 seed
Not enough people are talking about the gauntlet Carr went through to get this one. Going through Keegan, Hamiti, and Mitchell is mind boggling. He definitely was on! Stoked for his success
@@luiscruz5556Jokes on you, he just humbled Mesenbrink a little and now it will make Mesenbrink work on the one major flaw in his wrestling. Getting out of the bottom position and never letting someone ride him out like that again. Tougher test would be Keegan O'Toole because O'toole can match his physical strength. Also, I will say one thing, Keegan was really tired at the end of that match with Carr and more tired than I've seen him before but he was up for most of that match too. If Keegan came back to beat the breaks of Carr I wouldn't be surprised.
If Mesenbrink came back as fierce on bottom and getting out of ride-outs as he was on top I wouldn't be surprised. He should've looked to do the same to Carr what Carr did to him. Ride-out and make the riding time a non-factor.
Now Mesenbrink will have even more motivation to kill Carr next time they meet.
From what I've seen, Mesenbrink is an even better Freestyler than Folk.
@@zaynes5094 jokes on me? your post sounds like a whole lot of shoulda-coulda-woulda. the matches played out as they played out. you don't get a free ticket for gassing out. nor do you get a free ticket for "almost" winning a match that was close simply because of stall calls and escape points. carr shot more, carr hit more takedowns, and carr rode him out. those are the facts, like them or not. I have no doubt that mesenbrink has all the tools to be a champion next year, but right here and now, he did not get it done. David Carr did.
@@zaynes5094bro you typed out that long message just to realize carr has no years of eligibility left you muppet
My friend always says minority wrestlers have to do twice as much. Never really paid attention. Carr gets 2 take down gets hit for stalling 4 times. Dating fix runs stalls whole match gets 1 stalling point. Then later hidlay does the same thing, and doesn't hit. Now I'm seeing what you're saying.
I don’t want to start a debate. Yes there is truth to what you have heard. Having had it done to me, and black athletes I’ve coached. How many times have you seen a black athlete celebrate a win and have their sportsmanship questioned. Here is one. How many times have you seen a successful black wrestler described at “he is so athletic” rather than a good smart wrestler.
Lol like carter and aaron brooks? Or stevenson?
Yes like Carter and Aaron and Gable. They know they have to dominate their opponents, cause if it's close there's a possibility some refs will sabotage their victory. Sad but true.
This ref sucks. Just glad he didn’t cost him the match.
Outstanding tournament for this young man. God bless you!
Awesome match. Congrats to Carr. Well deserved
Im not normally critical of JB but why was so biased agianst Carr. He outwrestled MM and the refs tried to give MM the match. Carr had to beat MM and the refs.
Refs are wild lol throwing them calls like he was stretching his arms 😭😂
Couldn't be more disappointed in JB's takes on this match.
I'm convinced they found these refs in State College, PA
100%
Ref was giving it to Messenbrink.
They tried ro steal this match good ole america
Congrats to David Carr. A well-deserved win despite a bias referee who needs to check the rule book on stalling.
David Carr is a class act love to see it.
Mitch shouldn’t feel like he did that much in this match. He really only scored 5 points, 3 by escapes and 3 by one takedown. The other three points were given to him by the refs, only 1 of which was probably warranted. The other 2 were totally unnecessary.
Carr deserved to win this match. He had 2 takedowns and over 2 minutes of riding time. That is dominance in my book.
Please don’t let DC and Burroughs ref these brothers matches!! The whole time talking about how good messenbrink is, even after he lost! Can Carr get some love? 🤡
It's probably because Messenbrink is a red-shirt freshman and wrestled very well against someone of Carr's caliber. I saw it as them being really hyped about what's to come from him.
For all weights the best ncaa meet finals ever exciting this is what college wrestling needed
JB saying “that’s vintage JB” was too much
Come a long way since the 2021 Title. Great finish to a college career.
David Carr won his 2nd NCAA title when he beat O'Toole in the semis. Didn't think anyone could ever beat O'Toole at 165. Messinbrink showed up for the finals but Carr kicked his ass since the stalling calls and two points against him were BS. But Messinbrink does have a good future in front of him. His biggest mistake this year was telling the press "nobody can keep up with me 7 minutes." Big mistake for the young freshman. He could have never beat O'Toole like Carr did. Carr won it all
easily the most intense match of the night
Wow what a match
Those stalling calls were so bad
That booger in David’s nose after the wi was crazy😂
I know right😭😭
I was trying not to look.
These refs refuse to give even stall warnings to any of Penn wrestlers, but they give them out like candy to every opponent of theirs 😂 🤡
First, Penn and Penn State are two different schools. Second, that's just objectively wrong-Penn State gets stall calls. Third, everyone stalls against Penn State because they're all a bunch of babies who are scared to wrestle anyone in a blue and whiet singlet
Agreed 100%
Dude won the best bracket in the tournament.
I’m happy for Carr
They tried to steal it from him, but they couldn’t do it!!!
The finger wave and the little antics did not age well. Can’t stop watching this match. Hell of a win by Carr
Carr won, fairly and with heart. Messnebrink learned something and will be back. Stalling has been a problem for years in wrestling and nearly cost the sport the Olympic event. However, the NCAA stalling rules are strange. Since the takedown is now 3 points, why not add a point for pushouts. It would solve several problems. NCAA and US international wrestling is exciting again!
7:05 does anyone know what Metcalf said to the PSU coaches?
That man has Brent Metcalf in his corner…. Yeah I’m not betting against him.
But Messenbrink has Cael Sanderson? You'd bet against Cael over Metcalf?
Gibbons and Johnston should be calling the match.
Terrible second stall call on Carr. Ref's had an off night all around. The timing on the challenges was irresponsible. I get it, you want to get it correct, but damn you kill momentum.
David Carr defiently was the "most outstanding" wrestler of the year. Just had a phenomenal year. The National title was the cherry on top.
165 was easily the most stacked division this year
what was the stalling call at 7:00?
I wrestled my senior year and that’s all and I’ve watched some ncaa wrestling with actual stalling. They seemed active the entire match, was he using the clock to his advantage yea but sheesh he wasn’t just standing around tired.
That second stalling in the 2nd period was bs. I am glad D.C was announcing. They called him for stalling as he was shooting. So was the one at the beginning of the 3rd. Carr was working to ride. For those saying only one because he stalled, what match were you watching. Carr got two takedowns, and controlled him on top. ( I am a fan of good wrestling and Penn State, but those hating on Carr are off base) Two points Mitch should not have gotten for stalling. Oddly enough
that last 30 seconds Carr did not get hit for stalling. That is when he was defending the takedown, but stalling would have been warranted. Great match. The was experience over youth.
Great job David Carr.. let's goooo
Did anyone else notice how much trouble Carr was having with his headgear? Kept adjusting it during the match and I seemed to even cause him to get called for stalling at one point. I cannot understand how you can make it to the ncaa championships and not have your headgear completely dialed
Looks like the refs still haven't changed with their shall we say "selective" use of the stall call to keep the golden boys in matches.
Normally, I would chalk it up to a "bad call", but I've been around too long and seen it happen too much.
Ref should be fired. Or demoted to high school JV matches
That last stall call didn’t even make sense what did they want Carr to turn him while they were both standing? He was actively trying to get him back to the mat
Standing up making no attempts to lift and return for 5 seconds consecutively warrants a stall call.
The stall calls were excessive early in match. All the comments about crazy stalling by car is ridiculous. He used the mat and moved. Mesenbrink pushed but car moved really well and never gave him a good opening for a shot. Car rode him really tough and the attempts were legit to not get stall calls. Great match and big mistake by Penn state in not sprinting in end, not realizing he was down. I have seen way more backing up and backing out not get stall calls. Personally, push out rule would take away more of the subjective and really help USA internationally for the transition.
@joegreen9629 Well since the NCAA came out and said, that was a takedown in the Braeden Davis and Vinny Kilkeary won that match and Ref’s need to call it as such. I don’t think I’m the one that needs to learn the rules. And if it wasn’t home Refing how do you explain Ayala not getting any stalling calls in his finals match? Breakdown…Carr shot 3 times in the first and got 1 takedown. Mitchell only took 1 shot in the entire 1st period and that was with 1 second left in the 1st , plus he gave up a ton of ridding time. 2nd period Carr took 3 shots and got 1 takedown. Mitchell took 2 shots zero takedowns. Third period Mitchell took 4 shots with 1 takedown and Carr took 3 shots. Carr took more offensive attacks in the match than Mitchell. Someone for sure needs to learn the rules. And someone should for sure go back to high school.
“maybe some ice cream maybe some gummie bears”😂
There are too many stall calls!
Officiating is horrible in this match, basically if a PSU wrestler is behind getting taken down it's just automatic stalling on the guy beating them. Then the commentary crew ignoring the champion to heap praise on the officiating aided runner up, really silly stuff. A one team sport isn't healthy for the sport, not sure why anyone covering college wrestling tries to make that a thing so hard.
Should have been the semifinals
Big Carr!!!!
Both are very good wrestlers. Mitchell pushes the pace. I believe that that can be both a weakness and strength of his. I think that a wrestler with good offensive capabilities like Carr might pick him apart because of his aggressiveness. Aggressiveness is a wonderful ability and it's tremendously entertaining. But too much aggressiveness just as a lack of aggressiveness can be a weakness. Just look at Jason Nolf. Nolf has been completely neutralized by the defense of Dake and it has resulted in him digging holes for himself at times. I love to watch Mitchell, he's so exciting. But I believe that somebody with David Carr skill level, if they were to not worry about trying to ride him, and wasting a lot of energy to do so, could pick him apart at a takedown game because of Mitchell's haphazard aggressiveness. Although Mitchell is a world champion, at the senior level he's going to run into some people that will make him pay dearly for his haphazard aggressiveness. Just my opinion.
PSU coaches at fault for not informing Mess he needed points.
I feel the same. Shouldn't they have been screaming that Car had riding time?
@@edandpatricebarwick6253 Cael said so in an interview, that he should have done better couching him. Cael feels bad for his guys. Like the humility.
Love this kid the stalling calls were total BS !
Is that DC on that announcement table?
I was flipping out when he got called for a stall while in pursuit of a successful takedown. The refs were horrible this entire tournament
Messenbrink was Exposed he can't get off the bottom with a really good Wrestler
Counterpoint, Carr is great on top
Hilarious
This ref sucked big time!! They tried to steal the championship from David
Are refs allowed to bet on matches???? Some really questionable stuff by the refs in this one. You could tell the ref wanted to hit Carr with the last stalling and go straight to the bank.
Mesenbrink has been a bulldozer since he ran through the World Championships last year. Heck of a victory for Carr.
jordan was trying to shoot the ref some bail but fvk that, i'm glad d.c was willing to call him out.
If the singlets were switched only 1 stall would have been called the entire match.
Name one Penn State wrestler who rides the outside line?
@@parkerthompson3447 you don’t have to ride the outside to be a boring non aggressive wrestler. Look at Bartlett and Davis. I’ve seen enough to know which school gets calls. Go back and watch Hidlay/Nolf 2019 or Valencia/Hall 2017. All 3 td’s in this match were off Carr shots.
All credit to Mesnebrink for a hard fought match, but David Carr beat the ref to win the championship.
Wouldn’t doubt if Mesenbrink goes undefeated for the rest of his college career. So close to Cael’s career undefeated record. Ironically, if the ref hadn’t given Carr the stalling point, he would have been up by 1 on the scoreboard and Mesenbrink would have gone for the takedown in the end instead of being confused. Great job by Carr. Mesenbrink’s last great challenge.
I’m surprised at the fact Mitchell didn’t at all look at the scoreboard after they went out of bounds at the end of the match.
You are saying nobody will ever be close to him? Can I borrow your chrystal ball? 🤡
@@dannymurphy3907think you need to borrow a dictionary
You act like just because he goes for a takedown that means he would get it? I’m pretty sure he went for several takedowns and didn’t get them during the match. 🤡
He should have known he was down with riding time. No one to blame but himself. Refs tried their best to give him the match anyways, don't feel bad in the slightest
Poor coaching on Caels end wow that was weird saying
Totally screwed up
Mesenbrink has a crazy gas tank on him. O’tool is really going to have to work for that next title.
rumors are o'toole wants to bump up to 174, but will wrestle wherever it helps missouri most. i also heard that levi haines wants to move up which would make messenbrink have to go to 157 (if haines wins the spot), so there's a good chance they aren't even in the same weight class and possibly 2 weight classes apart next year.
@@user-yn1sf9mq3zno confirmation Carter is coming back yet for his fifth. Maybe mes goes up and Levi goes up too 🤷🏽♂️
@@keyboard2758 i guess that's possible, but messenbrink looks small for 165. he'll have to get a little bigger if he moves up.
Mitchell Mesenbrink is going to be the next Jason Nolf. Jason also lost to a national champion in the finals during his freshman year.
So Mess forgot about the riding tine??
I guess so lol. That’s why he looked so confused when he left the arena
He definitely did. I was watching it live, and it wasn't until I heard DC bring up that possibility did it click. I'm yelling at my screen like why did he just stop wrestling with 23 seconds left?!?! He let Carr off the hook...then DC's comment brought it into perspective. Messenbrink clearly wasn't tired. Congratulations to Carr though. He wrestled a great tournament.
@@abespeaks6718oh ya 100% I was more mad about carr having 3 stalling calls than realize mesenbrink lost because he didn’t know the score. The oddest and also most heartbreaking way to lose a ncaa championship
@@xenonmaster6668he prolly didn’t think about him nobody rode him all season and he’s a freshman first time it’s ever been a thing
Can't believe Mesenbtink didn't know the score lmao. He had Carr absolutely gassed at the end and could have stolen that from him just like Carr did to Keegan.
Refs tried cheating Carr
So we can just call timeouts at 6:30 ?
I like how they kept slipping calling him David Taylor....
I like Burroughs and Cormier but they should not be announcing the finals. Much better options out there, Shane sparks should get it