OK, seriously, you asked what kind of guard army we would like you to field... so here it goes. I have seen a hybrid version of this before, but a dedicated one would be interesting to see: I am talking about the Chonky Brawler list. Specifically, Bullgryns, Ogryns, Armored/Scout Sentinels with chainsaws/flamers, and tanks that can fire while in melee (Eradicators, Demolishers, etc.). Lets see what you can do with the muscle (and steel) bound units, dear brother Mordian!
Thans again for the game Mordian and like you said in the stream ours was deffinelty a game haha. Will save this vid in case no one believes my dice rolls are that bad XD
I was waiting for this episode, me and my curiosity about how you will do with this list at the tournament. To be honest, I am positively surprised, the Eldar fell, the Blood Angels also fell, and there were not enough turns to win against World Eaters Our enemies have excellent equipment, good training and are hardened in battle. They believe that their false gods are on their side, let them believe what they want to believe... We have tanks on our side, lots of tanks...
Which I suspect was to benefit artillery. That's all fine and good until they nerfed the artillery at the same time. Seems like some confusion among the development team on what they intended to do. Clearly, they didn't give it a lot of thought as Guard isn't a favorite.
I've had a Shadowsword do the same explosion scenario in the middle of my army in one of my first games of 10th edition, holly cow was it crazy to see something similar happen here.
Ive had it happen before too but yeh it was no where near this level till now! Like all my anti tank gone turn one, at that point it was either laugh or cry or both lol
Before the points nerf I was running 3 earthshaker carriages, 3 Medusa carriages, 1 Bombast FoBs, 1 manticore, and 120 infantry in 6 Death Korps blobs with 3 DK Marshals. Several scout sentinels and creed and Leontus and a command squad to give Leontus a Vox.. It was extremely fun to play. With the points nerf it become less effective but it is still fun. Struggles against armor spam due to wounding in 5s and praying for 6’s to hit for auto wounds.
Correct. I've used this to purge tanks of those monstrosities of Chaos (Angron, Great Deamons etc) and my primary opponent dropped playing Deamons once his trick stopped working. I'm not sure it was such a good thing as now he's an Eldar player.
I would love to see you take an airborne company! Scions, Kasrkins, Vultures, Valkyries, Avenger fighters and Marauders! Lets show them the Aeronautica Imperialis and OWN THE SKIES!!!! I wish you could play an elysian drop troopers army.
I have seen this happen. People expect a certain type of army and they would crush that army. Then a fluffy list comes along and they dont realise that their army is in danger.
Mordian: I'll throw the vanquisher in because it's a cheap tank. And it's still a russ at the end of the day. The vanquisher throwing darts of death through everyone's vehicles.
How about some love for The Emperor's Knights? I've been testing on a Black Templars mechanized list based on your Guard mech list and it works a treat. Five man first born crusader squads in Razorbacks are awesome.
So, i am wondering how you felt the Hydra did? I would have thought that it would have done well against Angron, with Flak Battery and Anti‐fly. Invuln saves? LoS? Not on board? Rolls so bad that the above couldn't save you?
I propose an "8th edition" style Catachan list. Bring blobs of Catachans. Bring Straken. Bring Harker. Bring Scout Sentinels with flamers. Bring Hellhounds. Bring Basilisks. Season with Demolishers and/or exterminators if you have the points.
I'm not sure what you're getting at at 57:45 when you talk about the rules mistake you made? Vehicles can shoot into engagement range with other vehicles (not blast weapons)
Im planing a melee guard army, having 3 demolishers as melee support. Not sure if I should change my 2 battle tank support with eradicators to have even more units to charge forward. Gona try it out a lilte and see if I can get it primed and ready for a GT i february
I'ld like to see a list using only light vehicles with nothing bigger than a hellhound (so like tauroxes, chimeras, sentinels and the like). See how a mechanised list without russes or big artillery works.
I haven't tried using the exterminators Russ builds much so i'm interested to see how this goes. I will say how ever you missed one of the best load outs on a russ, take a punisher and put 3 heavy flamers on it. I brought 3 with the russ list I used to win my tournament and they removed so much infantry it's insane. 3 tank commanders seems a but much as they are over priced but hey if it works i'll try it out as well!
Is ok but it depends on how much power you can drop in the enemy in a small space. Probably the only way to use it properly is with mortars/bassilisk so you can bonus a lot of dices. But apart of that, imperial guard is a syncronize dependant army and in this small urban maps this is a hell.
Matt, you are hereby required to repaint your army in the colors of the Lementers Chapter. The only thing to do in that situation is to laugh, and show the enemy what your shattered remains can do. Make them pay for every inch... or at least give it your best go. Remember: playing 40k isn't about winning despite how you're required to do so. It's about having a battle with friggin massive 3d models. It's what every kid with his little green army men would eventually become if he never put them down and got orginized with the ruleset.
@MordianGlory: i think you got trolled on the "big guns never tired". The rule itself specify you are not eligible to shoot so you cannot make ranged attacks if you are in engagement range of a enemy Monster or vehicle UNLESS you have a rule that allows that unit to shoot while being in engagement range (i.e. IS ITSELF A MONSTER OR VEHICLE) or Is equipped with pistols. Check It out
@georgelonghurst2672 Some people like to use proper grammar. Also some people have jobs, careers, and lives; texting quickly on a phone when busy doesn't always turn out correctly the first time.
@@y2j1490yahoo so what you're saying is, you saw the models and in a rush you had to make sure you let people know that you think the models are shit....then when you got home ...you edited it to make sure the grammer was proper.....i have to ask you who hurt you ? because how worthless must you feel to be like this....its beyond pitiable its embarrasing....the insecurity you're suffering is clear to see lol
OK, seriously, you asked what kind of guard army we would like you to field... so here it goes.
I have seen a hybrid version of this before, but a dedicated one would be interesting to see: I am talking about the Chonky Brawler list.
Specifically, Bullgryns, Ogryns, Armored/Scout Sentinels with chainsaws/flamers, and tanks that can fire while in melee (Eradicators, Demolishers, etc.). Lets see what you can do with the muscle (and steel) bound units, dear brother Mordian!
Finally, my favorite flavour of guard at a tournament again
I know. I’m always looking forward to finding out how the army did in each battle. So comprehensive!
The vanquisher story alone shoots the meta to shit. When people wanna talk averages....have you ever rolled dice?
When its joever after one shot setting all the ammo off xDDD
Thans again for the game Mordian and like you said in the stream ours was deffinelty a game haha. Will save this vid in case no one believes my dice rolls are that bad XD
I was waiting for this episode, me and my curiosity about how you will do with this list at the tournament. To be honest, I am positively surprised, the Eldar fell, the Blood Angels also fell, and there were not enough turns to win against World Eaters
Our enemies have excellent equipment, good training and are hardened in battle. They believe that their false gods are on their side, let them believe what they want to believe... We have tanks on our side, lots of tanks...
Am I right in thinking that if you replaced some leman Russ with the dorn, he wouldn’t of had the firepower to make this list work?
Every time I write a list, Mordian drops another tournament video and I want to change it completely
Guards detachment literally worst thing for us, it forces us to stand still in a high mobility meta
Which I suspect was to benefit artillery. That's all fine and good until they nerfed the artillery at the same time. Seems like some confusion among the development team on what they intended to do. Clearly, they didn't give it a lot of thought as Guard isn't a favorite.
@@ColonelHoganStalag13 lol then they made artillery over costed so there's no point
35:59 - Just fall back on the oldschool list building logic of ‘two is one and one is none.’
I think someone should really give that Matt fellow a set of hopefully luckier dice as a Christmas present or something.
Trust me they all betray me eventually, i would end up buying a new set every game lol
Well that's brutal
I've had a Shadowsword do the same explosion scenario in the middle of my army in one of my first games of 10th edition, holly cow was it crazy to see something similar happen here.
Ive had it happen before too but yeh it was no where near this level till now! Like all my anti tank gone turn one, at that point it was either laugh or cry or both lol
Top 10 Blood Angels military disasters 💀
Cracking job Mordy id have run 10 russes myself but i see the appeal of artillery and even anti air 95 point! bargain!! well done man.
I'd like to see what an Artillery heavy list with some Infantry would do...
Before the points nerf I was running 3 earthshaker carriages, 3 Medusa carriages, 1 Bombast FoBs, 1 manticore, and 120 infantry in 6 Death Korps blobs with 3 DK Marshals. Several scout sentinels and creed and Leontus and a command squad to give Leontus a Vox.. It was extremely fun to play. With the points nerf it become less effective but it is still fun. Struggles against armor spam due to wounding in 5s and praying for 6’s to hit for auto wounds.
Your first two opponents had horrendous luck, holy shit.
Dude- you've inspired me- bringing back the Tank Army!
Thinking of a similar 1k list. Demolisher TC, Exterminator, Vanquisher, Russ, 2x Basilisks
Transform! And roll out!
A 3-game tournament with Servo skulls and Ritual?!
The TO 100% worships Tzeench lol
TBF it was Mordians fault for guessing the TO's game layouts from the last torunament lol
Anyone can shoot into combat if the target is a vehicle or a monster. You can’t target non vehicle/monsters like that though.
Correct. I've used this to purge tanks of those monstrosities of Chaos (Angron, Great Deamons etc) and my primary opponent dropped playing Deamons once his trick stopped working. I'm not sure it was such a good thing as now he's an Eldar player.
Great report & video! Really enjoyed that!
I would love to see you take an airborne company! Scions, Kasrkins, Vultures, Valkyries, Avenger fighters and Marauders! Lets show them the Aeronautica Imperialis and OWN THE SKIES!!!! I wish you could play an elysian drop troopers army.
You mean using Elysians?
I have seen this happen. People expect a certain type of army and they would crush that army. Then a fluffy list comes along and they dont realise that their army is in danger.
Quite a few of us noticed you playing Big Guns Never Tire incorrectly :D. You just haven't noticed the comments.
Bonus point for the Irn-Bru
I'll watch before deciding whether your conduct is worth mentioning in dispatches! (Like button)
😂
This is the list I have been running recently. Currently 3-0 with it. Very powerful even in combat. I don't mind sacrificing a couple tanks. I locked ghazkull for 3 turns with just 2 tanks.
Krieg 113th (2000 points)
Astra Militarum
Strike Force (2000 points)
Combined Regiment
CHARACTERS
Gaunt’s Ghosts (100 points)
• 1x Ibram Gaunt
• 1x Bolt Pistol
1x Gaunt’s chainsword
• 1x Colm Corbec
• 1x Corbec’s hot-shot lascarbine
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Elim Rawne
• 1x Rawne’s lascarbine
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Hlaine Larkin
• 1x Larkin’s long-las
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x ’Try Again’ Bragg
• 1x Bragg’s autocannon
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Oan Mkoll
• 1x Lascarbine
1x Mkoll’s straight silver knife
Lord Solar Leontus (125 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Conquest
1x Konstantin’s hooves
1x Sol’s Righteous Gaze
Platoon Command Squad (75 points)
• 1x Platoon Commander
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
• Enhancement: Grand Strategist
• 4x Veteran Guardsman
• 4x Close combat weapon
2x Lasgun
4x Laspistol
1x Master Vox
1x Medi-pack
1x Plasma gun
1x Sniper rifle
BATTLELINE
Death Korps of Krieg (65 points)
• 1x Death Korps Watchmaster
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 9x Death Korps Trooper
• 9x Close combat weapon
1x Death Korps Medi-pack
1x Grenade launcher
6x Lasgun
1x Meltagun
1x Plasma gun
OTHER DATASHEETS
Attilan Rough Riders (70 points)
• 1x Rough Rider Sergeant
• 1x Hunting lance
1x Lasgun
1x Laspistol
1x Power sabre
1x Steed’s hooves
• 4x Rough Rider
• 1x Goad lance
3x Hunting lance
4x Lasgun
4x Laspistol
4x Steed’s hooves
Cyclops Demolition Vehicle (25 points)
Cyclops Demolition Vehicle (25 points)
Heavy Weapons Squad (60 points)
• 3x Heavy Weapon Team
• 3x Las small arms
3x Mortar
3x Weapons team close combat weapons
Leman Russ Battle Tank (180 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Heavy stubber
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
1x Leman Russ battle cannon
2x Multi-melta
Leman Russ Battle Tank (180 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Heavy stubber
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
1x Leman Russ battle cannon
2x Multi-melta
Leman Russ Battle Tank (180 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Heavy stubber
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
1x Leman Russ battle cannon
2x Multi-melta
Leman Russ Exterminator (180 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Exterminator autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
2x Multi-melta
Leman Russ Punisher (160 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Heavy stubber
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
2x Multi-melta
1x Punisher gatling cannon
Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (260 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Co-axial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Heavy stubber
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (260 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Co-axial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Heavy stubber
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
Tempestus Scions (55 points)
• 1x Tempestor
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
• 4x Tempestus Scion
• 4x Close combat weapon
2x Hot-shot lasgun
1x Meltagun
1x Plasma gun
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you can shoot at ennemy units in engagement range of your tank (but not with blast weapons) its the 10th rule big guns never tire.
Those were definitely not blood angels, they. He needs to repent them as lamentors.
Mordian: I'll throw the vanquisher in because it's a cheap tank. And it's still a russ at the end of the day.
The vanquisher throwing darts of death through everyone's vehicles.
It as the range to just sit back and select targets of opportunity.
Sometimes you can't beat a good old fashioned high velocity gun!
It’s the Tiger scene from Fury every time!
Give me sentinels! I want to see a list with as many chicken walkers as possible!
This whole episode was de ja vu for me. I think I've heard this before from another armored guard at a tournament video
The Emperor's Fist! The Emperor's Finest!
Tank army's are always called memes but I reckon they're strong as fuck.
I love my light vehicles. I would love to see you run pure light vehicles (infantry in transports)
18 sentinel rush!!
How about some love for The Emperor's Knights? I've been testing on a Black Templars mechanized list based on your Guard mech list and it works a treat. Five man first born crusader squads in Razorbacks are awesome.
So, i am wondering how you felt the Hydra did? I would have thought that it would have done well against Angron, with Flak Battery and Anti‐fly. Invuln saves? LoS? Not on board? Rolls so bad that the above couldn't save you?
I propose an "8th edition" style Catachan list. Bring blobs of Catachans. Bring Straken. Bring Harker. Bring Scout Sentinels with flamers. Bring Hellhounds. Bring Basilisks. Season with Demolishers and/or exterminators if you have the points.
Strange where a couple of bodies can stop a tank roling over them, any reason for this?
36:44 Are you sure you weren't playing against Lamenters?
Great bat rep as always!
I thought if you actually tabled your opponent, then you automatically won. Or am I mistaken?
Nope, you play out the rest of the turns
I'm not sure what you're getting at at 57:45 when you talk about the rules mistake you made? Vehicles can shoot into engagement range with other vehicles (not blast weapons)
Im planing a melee guard army, having 3 demolishers as melee support.
Not sure if I should change my 2 battle tank support with eradicators to have even more units to charge forward.
Gona try it out a lilte and see if I can get it primed and ready for a GT i february
I'ld like to see a list using only light vehicles with nothing bigger than a hellhound (so like tauroxes, chimeras, sentinels and the like). See how a mechanised list without russes or big artillery works.
What secondary’s did you take? Tactical?
Mordian, you should nothing but cavalry
It's on the list to do :)
Do the earthshaker battle cannons still exist in 10th? As in the stand alone ones without tracks?
Nice, so the tank scratches tank back is a Bolt Action rule about small arms weapons? 😂
I haven't tried using the exterminators Russ builds much so i'm interested to see how this goes. I will say how ever you missed one of the best load outs on a russ, take a punisher and put 3 heavy flamers on it. I brought 3 with the russ list I used to win my tournament and they removed so much infantry it's insane. 3 tank commanders seems a but much as they are over priced but hey if it works i'll try it out as well!
Is ok but it depends on how much power you can drop in the enemy in a small space.
Probably the only way to use it properly is with mortars/bassilisk so you can bonus a lot of dices. But apart of that, imperial guard is a syncronize dependant army and in this small urban maps this is a hell.
Every w against a knife ear gives an imperial saint their wings
Matt, you are hereby required to repaint your army in the colors of the Lementers Chapter. The only thing to do in that situation is to laugh, and show the enemy what your shattered remains can do. Make them pay for every inch... or at least give it your best go.
Remember: playing 40k isn't about winning despite how you're required to do so. It's about having a battle with friggin massive 3d models. It's what every kid with his little green army men would eventually become if he never put them down and got orginized with the ruleset.
Aah crap. Had I listened for one more minute before I posted.
1:06:56
Maybe how about heavy sentinels' army, *18* Sentinels (3 Full Squad Scout Sentinels and 3 Full squads Heavy Sentinel),
Lord Solar Leontus (125) + 10 Attilan Rough Riders (140)
10 Attilan Rough Riders (140)
10 Attilan Rough Riders (140)
3 Scout Sentinel (180)
3 Scout Sentinel (180)
3 Scout Sentinel (180)
3 Armoured Sentinel (210)
3 Armoured Sentinel (210)
3 Armoured Sentinel (210)
10 Infantry squad (60)
10 Infantry squad (60)
Total 1960 points
@MordianGlory: i think you got trolled on the "big guns never tired". The rule itself specify you are not eligible to shoot so you cannot make ranged attacks if you are in engagement range of a enemy Monster or vehicle UNLESS you have a rule that allows that unit to shoot while being in engagement range (i.e. IS ITSELF A MONSTER OR VEHICLE) or Is equipped with pistols. Check It out
700 of 200 points of Space Marines disappeared in a single round?!?🤯
First!!!! I’ll update after actually watching the video!!😂
That was fast!
In terms of other lists to bring to a tournament....why not do a doubles event?
Horde tyrannid tournament pleasseeee
How do you find tournaments near you?
There’s a website/app called Best Coast Pairings that has a list of event posting based on location (:
Brother you need a limiter. Your voice is peaking a lot
3rd game: Split Fire almost always loses the game.
I have a challenge for you for one month Don't use the word spicy
Do you paint your models poorly on purpose? Terrible color selection, no layering or highlights , no dry brushing or washes.
I think his vehicles are painted to be reminiscent of the old school painting style of early 40k, his infantry is usually painted with higher quality.
@y2j1490yahoo why did you have to edit this... you're clearly very simple, aren't you.....
@georgelonghurst2672 Some people like to use proper grammar. Also some people have jobs, careers, and lives; texting quickly on a phone when busy doesn't always turn out correctly the first time.
@@y2j1490yahoo so what you're saying is, you saw the models and in a rush you had to make sure you let people know that you think the models are shit....then when you got home ...you edited it to make sure the grammer was proper.....i have to ask you who hurt you ? because how worthless must you feel to be like this....its beyond pitiable its embarrasing....the insecurity you're suffering is clear to see lol