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Help! There’s a Natural Gas Leak Inside My House | How To Perform a Gas Pressure Test
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Upon arrival we performed a gas pressure test on the natural gas piping in the home. System could not maintain 4psi of pressure. After some discussion with the homeowner we were given the permission to proceed. We found a concealed 1" union above the laundry room ceiling.
This is a code violation of 2010 Fuel Gas Code of NY 404.3 Piping in Concealed Locations which clearly states: portions of a piping system installed in concealed locations shall not have unions, tubing fittings, right an left couplings, bushings, compression couplings and swing joints made by a combinations of fittings.
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Mikey pipes flys in with his cape and saves the day for the home owner.
National Grid said to call you really. I work in gas 37 years and no one was supposed to Recommend no one
Jeez, Mikey! That was quite the pressure drop when you pressurized that system! Customer is very lucky you solved that issue. Great work, as always Mikey! 👍
Peter is lucky to be learning from Mikey Pipes 👍
You nearly knocked me out by smashing my face. That dryer gas line has a big kink in it. I was kinda thinking that might be it but no, Mikey pipes roots out the problem like a truffle pig. Well done. Thumbs up
Good grief, what a nightmare! Way to stick with it Saint Mike! Great diagnosis and repair! 👏👍
Love the way you are bringing Peter along in the trade. Some humor and some harsh reminders . Some people over think the job or a question you ask but I found teaching a class for journeyman HAVC tech tests and Journeyman Electricians ; the guys who do not catch on right away when they knuckle down stay the trade longer than the quick learners.
@Mikey Pipes, Good job! Sounds like a blast to work for you. Even terrible things can be made enjoyable with the right attitude :)
God bless you Mikey P. What a great job you did. Homeowner could have a explosive god for Bid You Saved them Mikey P you are a true blessing to hvac trade keep up amazing job man!!
This video was so good, I hit the thumbs up button twice.
Good to see ya !!
Now that was a great find . Good going man . The main thing is this lady did not die in an explosion she will live to get over the price.
Awesome, dude!
Nice work on gas job!!👍🏽👍🏽
I will repeat again!!!
The west coast has roger wakefield
And here in the east coast we have to the big guy mike pipe!!!
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I love this guy from new york!!!
Good catch,you may have saved a few lives today,it's never pretty when a house blows up from a gas leak. I would be looking into who installed that system,probably un-permitted by a guy moonlighting,WTF,again good catch!!
Epic work epic find good job $$$$$
Most home owners don't know building code and you hope you have the right contractors to do the job right. I think the building inspector failed them. It could be the inspector inspected the home after the basement was finished. Usually I think it should have been inspected before the drywall installed. But what do I know I just watch your channel and the home owner was lucky to find you because I knew before watching this video that you would find the leak.. This is one of your best videos.. Great Job!!!
I used to tell my Jewish friends working in the trades how come your not a doctor but as it turns out Mikey pipes is a real good doctor.a pipe doctor. Good job 👍
Thank goodness that she called you. Who knows what could have occured. I am hoping that the initial installer is going to be traced to ensure they never do such a stupid thing again.
nice job as always....
LOL "Death Box incorporated machines"15:25 ,I was what are you talking about....? then I remembered the tankless "She's a Leaker" with connections made I just started laughing.
Presume union got loosened as a function of monkeying with pipes during water heater and furnace installation. Thank goodness you were recommended to come out and assess the situation. God smiled on that family today with you as their savior.
My money is on whoever did the gas rough in forgot to tighten the union. No way a union could loosen that far just by vibrations.
@@rustyshakleford5230 Pretty poor installation I would say then. Sucks for the homeowner for sure. Glad Mikey fixed it.
Great video kinda surprised that the gas company couldn't find that leak but great job looking out for your clients safety
surprised they didn't shut the gas off and lock it. maybe they don't there by rules if the detectors don't go off.
Great video Mikey!
Finally getting my new boiler it’s a Energy Kinetics Resolute RT what do you think about this boiler?
@@ciscokid2444 I’ve taken out several over my career. Never installed one.
Omg those kind of customers are hard to deal with 🤦♂️🤣 , I was dying laughing when the customer heard mikey say the customer didn't want to open the ceiling cause of the hourly rate 😅
@@PipeDoctor And you found the leak 😎👏
This is why a good technician is Observant of his surroundings....
We used to test suspect helium lines. Crank it up from 300 to 500 and get the bubble patrol out. Pretty scarey but you'll find the culprit.(most of the time)
Good job Mike, need to school Peter more.
That union is flat out BULLSHIT! Reminds me of when I found my aunt’s gas line leaking. Found a street 90 barely threaded. Soap bubbles came back in my face. Thank god for you Mikey Pipes. Professionalism at its finest.
I knew a lot was concealed during this video and maybe you already know this trick but I sometimes use a little freon and then pump up with nitrogen to find small leaks when we test rough ins
That was a good find ... Who would put a union valve in a closed ceiling ? You may have saved lives ... Thx for sharing and your right , you can't make this s**t up ...
And the hidden gas pipe in the wall! “Hey Honey, let’s hang that picture right over………there💥💥”! 😂
Hacks bring me stacks 🤩
עבודה מצויינת 👍🏻
Probably the worst I’ve seen was the customer complaint that she had another AC company replace her unit and smelled a strange odor from her vents. I went out and saw that the company didn’t want to move a gas pipe so they made a plenum around it with a gas cock inside the return plenum with a small leak😮💨 so you’re right you can’t make this stuff up!
WOW! Save money and go with the lowest bid contractor- you get what you pay for. I wonder how many other gas lines these dudes have jacked up. Great job Mikey!
It’s funny bc there’s no reason for a union unless they were piping it in from both directions… and all they needed was flanges… personally I’m not a fan of the left right
Hey Mike
We use the c measurement in finish carpentry on a daily basis. Blonde is less than…. Cheers from Montana.
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That’s insane! And the gas company should’ve followed the pipe from the utility room and they would’ve found a stronger scent
Actually the 'Gas Company' is supposed to test everything at the utility meter with a manometer or equivalent...not rely on scent or soap and water...ask me how I know...😉
@@PipeDoctor I have worked for them for almost 30yrs..😉
Mike I think the handyman did the pipe job… I can tell by those Chinese fittings
You should start installing natural gas detectors as a part of new installs involving natural gas. Just an idea.
WTF unbelievable. National grid should shutoff the gas meter. You can’t make this shit up.
Good Job Mikey.
Me personally I would shut/locked the head…where I work shutting the meter vs the head is a little more paperwork… but that’s just me lolll
Buy yourself a Bascom Turner CGI 🤙
I used to do gas leak emergency calls before I worked for myself and can find any leak with it as long as the meter is calibrated every month and proven to work.
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My question is similar to the ones farther down in the comment section …… what was done to correct this …….was the union tightened …….or was it eliminated?
That lady is very lucky she didnt go boom when turning on the lights or something. Crazy.
In these situations where you have identified an existing code violation are you permitted to simply tighten the nut on the union or are you required to actually remove the violation and run a new (union-less) gas line??
Wish you would of shown how you took out union and replaced it
that is f----- scary!! the reno must have been recently done!!!
ive seen loose unions before from vibrations of equipment.. but my guess here is that this stuff never truly passed the prressure test wyebn they put the furnace in .. . those pipes were being jarred around and prob just started the loosening of that union.. now its fall temps are dropping and rising at a pretty good rate .. prob worked a little more loose till - Leak! and of course it gets worse the looser it gets.. darn lucky to have holes in her ceiling instead of a FLAT condo...
@@PipeDoctor also means they prob never pulled a permit for the basement finish.. or if they did the rough-in inspector pencil whipped the ticket and signed off!
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Hard to believe that gas was not smelled a long time ago shortly after that union was installed.
Saint Mike to the rescue!
Mikey @ 4:58 look at the dryer line smashed hard lower left bet its cracked a smidge rite there it got slammed hard to for that to happen..
@@PipeDoctor If you ain't testing you guessing ...🤫
How did National Grid not find the leak? I work for a gas company and you clock the meter for 15 mins. Those leaks would have definitely made the dials move. If we can’t find the location of the leak on the fuel line we shut off the gas at the meter and the customer must call to have gas turned back on when leaks are fixed.
NY'ers be different. @NatGrid chime in
In Ontario you can have a union is a gas pipe system and doesn’t need to be at an appliance but it can never be concealed. Are you permitted to use Viega Mega press gas fittings in your area? They make a slip coupling that would make it an easy fit
And that is why I always put a little pipe dope on the connection.
We’ve had a few houses blow up from gas leaks in the last 15 years or so one was 3 blocks from my house it knocked the house off it’s foundation and I barely noticed it and about 2 months ago there was one that blew up about 1.5 miles from my house it demolished the house and apartment building behind it and scattered debris all over doing damage to a lot of other houses that one was felt across the city I thought something hit my house. A gas leak isn’t something to mess up get it fixed asap.
Did I hear a ,Loose as a goose mamma in there?? Lol.
WOW THATS CRAZY THAT LOOSE.
You almost said a new catchphrase, "Hanks bring me banks."
I surprised who ever installed these gas pipes they did not do a pressure test because when I built my second home and before they hooked the gas main to the house they did a pressure test for leaks. If I can remember they pressurized the system at the end of the day and checked it the next day if I recall.. They were lucky and no leaks.. It could have been the gas company that did the check. I do know each connections had a check mark to show each connections were checked. I was told St.Louis has some strict codes.
Well done and good calls on handling the situation. Untighten, Wish you had it on film cutting the drywall open and finding the illicit loose union in one take that would have sunk someone. Better than a doorbell leveling the building. What hack did the install, and who is responsible for this mess. Will there be filing report'S licensed or not. Was a permit pulled, think insurance will cover the bill after paid or do they want a pre-authorization prior to the -oscopy. Is the NFPA worth there salt and worthy of a copy, dues?. oscopy
@@PipeDoctor I've seen permits, and canceled checks made out to inspectors in there names personally, not even to an entity. Nothing surprises me more than an owner excepting it as normal usual business because it was a check and not just cash for services.
Hey Mikey, every gas test gauge specifically says to NOT use a air compressor, instead a bicycle pump. That small compressor will blow that gauge making you think you have a leak when you dont. ASK ME HOW I KNOW?!?!?!
I WISH you'd talk about pricing sometimes.. lol I know why you don't but I'd just wonder what something like that would cost.. What if I guess and Mikey can say higher or lower.. I'm gonna call was $1700.. Then she's gonna need another $750 to get all those holes fixed, $400 if she knows somebody.. Just a guess though.. But.. Having a big ass gas leak - can't put a price on that.. GREAT JOB INSPECTOR MIKEY!
I think the one that covered the valve should be a removable panel.
So did you remove the union? Megapress, or threaded coupler?
Mikey doesn't want to answer that question
You can have a union in a run, but not behind sheetrock. Unless it is different in long island. Tuff to find those leaks.
Well this call is in queens…I know in the city you can’t have unions on house pipe before acvs and boilers and water heaters need to be hard piped in
RE:tuppersdad. That's what it said in the New York code he provided. "2010 Fuel Gas Code of NY 404.3 Piping in Concealed Locations which clearly states: portions of a piping system installed in concealed locations shall not have unions, "
So after you done the final pressure test, did you do a leak test on the complete system to make sure none of the gas valves and the appliances were leaking??? And also why can't you have a union on piping? That must be a local code yeah you can't conceal a union but having it in a normal pipe ruin like under a house shouldn't be a problem
We didn’t see what you put in place of that Union on camera what did you put in place
dude you found that shit nice... Hacks bring stacks baby
Mikey P fittings due leak it happens. But Man that union was completely lose my guess they never tightened union..
@@PipeDoctor Yea Mikey very bad situation union was not even touched. Thank God you caught it. Great job man..
Did grid shut gas off and say to call you, or leave on and say to call you?
The house was about to blow sky high and they worried about hourly rate to cut holes you should have shown them videos of blown up houses lol I wonder if they really grasped just how close they came from not being on this earth
A tradesmen that don’t swear is no tradesman….😂😂
Wow! Poor owner! The house could have burnt up to the ground😱🔥
Mikey, doesn’t the gas meter have a vent? I test post meter, because I’ve had the pressure I add, push out through the vent at 4psi.
I’ve never seen a vented meter… or a relief valve on a meter
So what happened to all the holes in the wall? Couldn't you have done the soap bubble test after cutting away each sheet rock, one by one?
That's what I was wondeering. Why not first test all the visible connections before proceeding to cut holes?
When you pressurize the line to 4 PSI, have you ever ruined the integrity of an on/off valve? Ive been told that it needs to be pressurizied while the system is capped (this makes the process way longer.)
I don't know about gas valves but water valves are rated about 100 psi or more.
First thing I do is clock the gas meter, watching the 1/2 foot mark. If that dial moves (no gas use) there is a leak.
That is a viable test.. but how long do you watch it for…. Bc to see a leak like that doing a dial test is gunna be at least half an hour to see any sort of movement…. Me personally if I was that nat grid mechanic I would be u-gauging (manometer) that house
At least they put a plug in the valve hidden in the wall
should be an access door there anyways lol
We use 15psi, 15 minutes for static test, state requires less. Passes every time.
@@PipeDoctor still gets the job done👍
Idiots messing with water is bad. Idiots working on gas and electricity are deadly. Keep picking up those stacks Doc
That's what we call dropping like a clock
When I was a Paramedic we had a house 5 blocks from our station explode from a gas leak .. Killed the lady and severely injured her husband.... Gas leaks are one of the most serious calls we do and never take them lightly
Wow what hack installed that union.
Leak Test in Ontario is 15 psi. for 15 minutes.
Question. If the main gas valve is off and there is no gas how are you still able to do soap bubble test?
They pressurized the lines with an air compressor.
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dryer gas flex looks kinked on left side unless its angle im at. they should of used shorter flex
I like her answer it smell like gas 😅😅
Mikey you’re getting close to 50k, whens the pool party?
How did that ever pass inspection? Loose is loose. That's why you test at 100 mph not 55.
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12:42 He says "unions are not allowed in pipe runs; only at the termination of fixtures"
BUT, in the video description it says "2010 Fuel Gas Code of NY 404.3 Piping in Concealed Locations which clearly states: portions of a piping system installed in concealed locations shall not have unions, "
Which one is correct?
1. Unions not permitted in any pipe runs, whether concealed or not concealed?
2. Unions are permitted in pipe runs as long as they are not concealed?
This is New York code. What does the national USA code say?
Left right coupling
That’s crazy but lucky them you saved them could’ve been life or death!
I know it’s against code. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I’ve put a union in a drywall ceiling before. Leak tested it. Secured it like a mfer. I screwed the piece I cut out with only 2 screws. And wrote gas union here in big sharpie. As well as left a note on furnace, water heater.I told the customer, if you change anything that I did, it must have an easily accessible door or something. And be loudly labeled. We didn’t do the door because we were losing money before this shit show popped up. I’m sure this is technically against code. But there was no way to do it any other way with what the house looked like at the time
Should have bought the gad company gas leak warranty...lol
I found a gas leak on a tuneup the other day, customer said he’s gonna keep an eye on it😂🤦🏽♂️
So was the union eliminated or tightened?
I believe he said he has to disassemble everything to get to that union. Plus it was not permitted per code.
Probably for liability reasons Mikey doesn't want to answer that question
Hack job but that’s why you never drywall a basement ceiling. Drop ceiling is way better. Probably a bunch of electrical junction box covered as well.
tell them to quit ripping & tooting. 🤣