Rob Parker - Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens Should be in the Hall of Fame
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2022
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker continue to react to the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot results that left Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens out.
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Barry Bonds had more home runs in 2004 than strikeouts, unbelievable stat.
Yep...I had never seen that before by a power hitter. And that's with seeing 1 or 2 good pitches a game.
When Bonds was playing, there were almost as many fans camped outside the stadium and in the bay in canoes and boats waiting for a HR hit as fans in other stadiums
What a time to be alive and aware of our surroundings. I’ll never forget those times and watching number 73. It almost looked like the pitcher gave it to him but then you remember anything in the strike zone was a potential missile.
I watched baseball that whole season cuz of Barry bonds.. and I'm from NY 😂😂
As did I. I'm also from NY.
Barry bonds is a legend.. Im sorry your from NY hahah kidding
Can you imagine if he played his whole career at Yankee Stadium 😳
@@caper087 sorry we won rings when Barry was getting stats😆😆 sorry
Me too!!!
How can the voters keep Bonds and Clemens out and then turn around and vote Ortiz in on his first ballot at that.
They're an absolute joke.
Because he got shot and survived.
He was a shoe in after that. Alleged peds is okay for some.
Bonds should be in first before Papi got in.
Yup the MLB HOF is a joke for this nonsense
Pujos Piazza all these guys got ties to performance enhancers ITS A JOKE
@@jeffsamuels2539 Its a popularity contest.
Steroids don't make you a HOF player.
Most writers have never even played 😂
Nor to mention all the confirmed racists that are in there.
MLB writers can no longer claim steroid is an issue.
Big Papi got in😂
They still will..... they have no shame. They believe they are above the fray
@@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904 Yes they do .
Pujos, piazza the list goes on. Complete joke.
Bond’s run was GLOBAL news.
Everyone say and waiting, it was awesome and he was crushing it just off a couple pitches each night.
I know it is not popular opinion but those Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Ken Griffey, Clemens, Randy, A-Rod days were exciting as hell.
These same people put Mike Mussina, a regular ass pitcher who was never voted the best pitcher in any season, into the hall of fame but Barry Bonds can’t get in who was voted a 7x league MVP 🤦🏾♂️
bonds was great but it also helped that he played in the worst divison in baseball every year with the worst pitchers
That’s debatable . . However..... the nl west parks are huge. Waaaaaayyyy harder to hit it out of them parks than the AL East for instance.
Plus in the early 2000s Arizona was in their division with great pitching so idk. Maybe you have a point on the rest of the pitching but you have to take into account the parks sizes out there. Besides Colorado it’s hard to hit them in that division
So will you keep brady out? He playednin the worst division vs the worst qbs?
@@lawlessuniversal7977 and Brady benefited from 2 different cheating incidents
I agree with Rob, but also include that he never tested positive on his plaque as well. Don’t let any in or let them all in when it comes to PEDs in sports.
Well said. The fact big pop up got in with a positive but Barry didn’t just shows the voting is just a popularity contest. The voting is a joke. ORTIZ wasn’t even half the total player Barry was in his career. Ortiz couldn’t put down the burger long enough to play a position after a certain age. Barry played the OF. Barry won gold gloves and stole 500 bases.
Everyone says “numbers prove he juiced” ...... so Ortiz hitting almost 40 HR(38-39 I believe)at age 39 isn’t a number that is damning ? Lol. Can’t have it both ways. David didn’t even start hitting til he was 27-28. He would be in his natural prime from 21-28 no? What a joke. Wake up ppl.
He pissed off a group of privileged baseball writer's. And they punished him for it in form of writing a book. LoL it comes down to they said it so it's true. Smh They'll regret this.
That’s lame. Putting anything is ridiculous. Like Bonds would say yeah sure go right ahead. Bonds has more pride and dignity than that.
He was jucied. We don't need evidence lol. It's a good lesson. Don't cheat
@@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904 part of being Hall of famer is your impact on people.
Bond's was my Tiger Woods... the only reason I watched. Him, Griffy Jr, Sosa.
Both cheaters, though in different ways. 😂 🤣
@@mgk2020 🤷🏾 take it away, take away a lot of eyeballs. I disagree with your comment, but still. Ask me when's the last time I've watched the mlb
Barry Bonds and Roger Clements should be in the baseball ⚾️ hall of fame … I agree with Rob 👍🏾
So should Rose.
I didn't realize that betting gave you HOF numbers and make you the all time hits leader.
What a joke.
No way no how you let in people that been cheating and reward them for cheating
How do you let in Bonds and Clemens and keep Rose out?
@@jay-qy7dv 🤔 last time I checked, the Astros still have their WORLD series. They cheated, got caught, people confessed, and NOTHING happened to them.
Pete Rose got a lifetime ban from baseball for betting????? Bonds, Clemens, A Rod, McGwire, Sosa were part of a era where cheating was allowed by the commissioner and the whole baseball community! There was no consequences because the commissioner was in on it and the ratings were through the roof, especially the HR race between Sosa and McGwire! Nolan Ryan is the player in the HOF Conseco referenced in his book that juiced! But if Rose doesn’t go in, no other player should enter the HOF if their is no integrity! It’s common sense to look at the size of McGwire, Bonds, Sosa, Clemens at one point in their career to looking like bulky bodybuilders! But it all goes back to looking at what is right and what is wrong!!
Clemens and Bonds should be in the HOF, it's ridiculous. They kept the MLB alive back in the days, those are GREAT players MLB loses points with me on this one.
Bonds not being in the hall, as a lifetime baseball fan, is a travesty. I grew up in the Bay Area and when bonds got there to when he retired, was the greatest stretch of my fandom of any sport. Even over the niners in the 80s and 90s. Bonds captured the imagination of us all.
It’s the roids man lol
@@timroberts5316 and he was a nasty dude to everyone not even just media but he didn’t view himself as a role model and would charge for autographs who does that?!
@@Xenlacasa45 a lot of celebs and athletes actually. Damns shame
@@timroberts5316 yeah even his own teammates hated his guts.
Speak for yourself Champ not *QUOTE* 'All' I don't like people when they speak fake plural for others
Bonds memorabilia is in the museum which is also the hall of fame so his Jersey and bat he hit with is in there but he isn’t smh
Bonds is the best player of all time Literally put fear on every pitcher never seen nothing like it And before the Roids he was already hof material.
They walk this guy 2,500 times. For god sakes they walked him when the bases was loaded 😂
@@ken2win671 the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen! I remember that 2004 season! Do you know if you take out his unintentional walks and only count his intentional walks he still would rank 5th in total walks for that season! Just insane! That 2002 World Series home run ball still has not came down…
@@Advocate4kids 😂 facts!
@@ken2win671 he’s my all time favorite player! I super collect him…he’s my guy…im not a super fan or anything crazy like that… lol
Barry Bonds is the G.O.A.T!
The Big Red Machine.. Kudos for Kane for all the Tombstones on Pete Rose.
Damn that was funny and great
Bonds was a first ballot hall of famer BEFORE he started juicing. Then he (after a late start on the game, I might add) started juicing and broke the two biggest records in baseball while seeing one to two pitches a night.
Exactly and the media wasn't kind to his Father either.
That's why he didn't give them anything. It's a popularity contest. Schilling and Clemens should also be in.
Bonds was a 8x Gold glove winner, .298 career batting average (hit .370 one year), and stole 500 bases which all have nothing to do with steroids which alone should have him in the hall
@@Foriegn684 Stupid woke men say otherwise. What a joke
@@747heavyboeing3 its not about being woke its about being stupid
@69 Vibes a cheater is a cheater. Bonds deserves the consequences of his actions. He was first ballot until the juicing. Only today's society, which supports criminals over lawful citizens, would support bonds or Clemons for the Hall. My they both spend the rest of their life's with this regret.
Bud Selig is in the Hall of Fame, a man who did more damage to the game by his silence than any steroid user. He was voted in with 93% of the vote. Look at some of the other execs and owners in the HOF. What did they do for the game? Gimme a break. These writers are a joke.
Rob is such a tool. He CONSTANTLY complains about Tom Brady's "cheating." Stop being a hypocrite.
I hate watching baseball on tv. But man when bonds was playing, you couldn't take your eyes off the tv. Every swing was a home run it seemed. Pitchers being scared and walk him all game. It was amazing.
Unfortunately MLB became what it is because of steroids. So to keep two guys out because of them is sorta asinine. Then add into the equation these two players were part of the resurgence then you get even more asinine. It's the MLB saying "thanks bruh, but we ain't ask y'all to do that. But seriously doh, thanks!"
Agree and they voted in selig who benefitted from it and had to have known and turned a blind eye. What a joke
Been waiting for robs opinion on this since it happened
Bonds was a Hall of Famer BEFORE he used steroids!
No one talks about Manny’s career with the Cleveland team, which he was building a HOF career before he went to Boston which everyone remembers him for that part of his career. He was a part of all-time great lineups in Cleveland which helped him.
I’ll defend Manny not only because of his pre-Boston career which was consistent, also because his numbers weren’t as eye popping as guys like Sosa and McGwire.
Long time Red Sox fan.... Manny is the definition of overrated.... And no I'm not a White Red Sox fan I'm Chicano
His 165 RBI season in 145 games was insane he was consistent his whole career I think what hurts him is he popped with Ortiz on that private test in the early 2000’s but he ended up testing positive twice at the end with the ray and Whitesox
Did you ever see Bonds before he got to Frisco? Dude was a hall of famer before he even played for the Giants.
That 2002 season he only played in 120 games and that 03 test, whatever they allegedly took was never disclosed and it’s almost 20 years since. If he was using whatever to help get back in shape for the 03 season, I give him the benefit of the doubt for that situation.
I’m not defending him on the two positives which he was suspended for, he should’ve known to not try anything because that’s when they started actually suspending players for positive tests.
Baseball HOF is a joke..
After the 94 strike MLB was struggling to get fans back in the stadium and that homerun era seeing balls flying out the parks smashing long standing records and then the Yankees dynasty back in full effect MLB was raking in the dough they knew what was going on guy were looking like football players so you can't have it both ways
I don't watch baseball because of it's treatment of Bonds, the GOAT!!
Then you aren’t a baseball fan
@@njfuentesrespecter81 right especially with so much talent now like Vladamir Guererro jr and Ohtani
Ehhhhh. Vlad jr is so fat he will eat himself off first base by 25. Great bat but yikes. And Ohtani has his first healthy season since 2018. Get real. To invoke their names with Barry bonds is a joke. Ohtani might stay healthy and if he does he’s obviously special. But mike trouts made of glass and a weak clown who doesn’t promote the game and the other kids are show offs. None are bonds level. That is a trash comparison and I would ban you from UA-cam if I ran it just for using them names in the same paragraph at this point in their careers smh
@@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904 Vladamir Guererro sr is in the hall of fame and his son has already surpassed some of his stats. Vlad jr is gonna be better then his father he’s changed his diet and has lost over 50 pounds.
Ok I apologize for my harshness it was a bad day lmao. However, their names do not belong in the same sentence.
Secondly, idc if Vlad lost 50 pounds, he still looks like he has 50 to go. He may be as good as his dad with the bat. But he’s not even on the same planet as a base runner, fielder, and even though he played 3rd, his arm got nothing on his daddy’s.
I respectfully think you need to slow your roll on this generation. They are good to great players and until they can stay healthy 15-20 years and put up numbers, they are not historic by any means. Not that you do it, but ppl call Juan Soto …. Ted Williams lmao. None who plays today will hit for pujols’ career numbers and def not touch bonds.
I respectfully disagree
Hey Rob and Chris, I grew up in the '80s, I played baseball and I loved watching baseball. When I was in high school the major leagues and high Schools we're trying to give everybody steroids. Our high School coaches were trying to give them to us, the major league I heard was giving them out like candy. I will not watch baseball until bonds gets in. I also think Peter Rose andl Roger Clemens deserves to be in. I'm sick of all these writers voting on the Hall of Fame,just get rid of the Hall of shame.
Barry Bonds is the most famous player of the last 50 years. How is that not Hall of fame worthy? It’s the HALL OF FAME. Who is more famous than Bonds? This is just stupid.
Shout out Rob!!!!! He always keep it so real ....I'm sorry dose white folks took you off tv😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Buck Showalter intentionally walked Bonds with the bases loaded back in 1998 and that's when McGwire & Sosa was on their run. They were scared of that dude early on even before the whole PED thing.
Rob really should talk more about Baseball
I wish they all got in! Great memories and the history behind them. Should get them in
Bonds never tested positive.
Bonds was HOF before 1998!
Clemens stats is off the charts 3rd in career strikeouts
I think Clemens won a cy young for all four teams he played for too lmao. Boston, NY, Houston, and Toronto
That Barry Bonds 73 home run season was the equivalent of Steph Curry's 2nd MVP year--mind blowing must see TV.
Not the same imo. Steph can’t hold his jockstrap. He had the greatest season power wise all time.
@@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904 valid
What's crazy is I think his 2004 season was better than the 73 HR one (2001). He actually hit more HRs than he had strikeouts. I had never seen that done before with a power hitter. And he did that with only seeing 1 or maybe 2 "good" pitches a game as they walked him over 200 times that year.
Thanks …. Very few times do ppl change their mind or see a difference. Props to you.
I was t taking nothing from curry or his mvps either. Have a great day
Bonds and Clemens weren't the fuzziest fellas. Writers are holding grudges and being petty.
Bonds was a Hall Of Famer before the steroids which makes his situation worse, the 90s needed ratings to compete with the nba,nfl, hell even wrestling which was really popular, its no coincidence that Mark McGwire,Sammy Sosa and Bonds etc were using roids knocking out home runs like crazy in the 90s
So the HOF is about what you do for the ratings?
@@kevinathans4191 no that's not what im saying, he's a no doubt hall of Famer but you can't tell me baseball didn't play a part in the steroid era
@@marcusreed5862 And that's why I think they should have just owned it. They promoted it, yet punished it severely. You can't have your villains be the heroes. In not other major sport do they crucify guys for PED like baseball. I mean look at the NFL...no one cares about PEDs.
Bonds wasn’t juicing in the 90’s though. Bonds got more votes then sammy Sosa and mark
@@marcusreed5862 the NBA only beat the MLB in one world series/NBA finals matchup in the 90s
Bonds is literally the GOAT and it's not even close.
Let's also talk about cycling...Lance Armstrong...name another cyclist...
Floyd Landis
Fr , even with no drugs he would be the goat
@@ibmor7674 Who was also busted for doping...
@@trillj8636 Then why did he take it?
@@KNByam Exactly
Let's be real here, the MLB has been trash since people stopped using PED's. Make baseball great again
Funny how the HOF voters still mad bout PEDs but then you got teams stealing bases & using trashcans.
Barry Bonds IN!!! MUST-SEE TV at BAT
Where's Mark Wilson?
Barry Bonds is the best PLAYER ever. He's the greatest hitter & the greatest at his position all time. Both him & Clemons not being in is redic. Charlie Hustle as well...They all need to be in. Baseball has never had integrity...some of which you spelled out during this feature. Athletes..businesspeople...politicians...warriors..soldiers...governments have always sought out an edge over the competition. To assume that that particular segment of time is when players used substances is disingenuous. I totally disagree w/ honoring an individual & castigating him at the same time...Foh.
Best hitter, one of the best pitchers, and arguably the best overall player ever are all not in the HOF.
Idc how you slice it, that is just crazy.
Is there anything on Heff Bagwell orMike Piazza's plaque?
The baseball HOF is a mockery without Barry Bonds in it.
Rocky Balboa is in the Boxing HoF. Mfer isn't even real, but the character did a lot for the boxing community as a whole. Bonds and Clemens both did good and bad things for the league. They should be in HoF too
WTF!
Rocky got a statue and he's in the HOF!? What a crazy White world we live in.
Rocky, a fictional character, was only positive for boxing. Bonds and Clemens did negative things for baseball. You said it yourself.
@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD How did Bonds do negative things for baseball?
@@Oldschool1522 not sure if you’re being facetious, if that was a rhetorical question, or if you are seriously asking me how his actions were detrimental to baseball and the MLB. If you are serious than this entire argument is way out of your league.
@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD that's fair criticism. I think there's a legitimate arguement that both of those guys had HoF careers prior to PED use, but hard to remember anything outside of that. Not sure where you draw the line
Man if the PEDs were making him play like that they should have been giving them to him before every at bat.
It was electric. Loved that season.
Rob and Chris I would argue that Big Mac n Sosa saved baseball. I'm a SF Giants fan and that was way more impactful than Bond's homerun setting year. Arod too should get in as far as I'm concerned. That post season by Alex were he got his ring was primarily his doing. I get why Big Papy got in, after a century I believe the Red Sox finally got their title and he was the main force. You can't talk about Baseball's history without it.
If you’re getting intentionally walked with the bases loaded, you’re a Hall of Famer
Lol. Absolute facts!
And all through the late 60s and throughout the 70s they took white crosses or bennies. That's a kind of speed, which would give you extra pep in your step. Take them out of the hall also
Pro sports should have a doping policy that delays HOF voting 25 years after being caught
It is SUCH a travesty that Rob should lose his vote. Every person with a vote needs to be removed from that position of power regardless of how he voted. Best baseball player ever needs to be in the hall. The hypocrisy of these dudes is stupid.
Why would the people who voted the the way you think is right be removed. That means they understand he should be in the Hall
This is what I don't get about the baseball writers, analysts and fans, Steroids been around since the late 60's but those folks only assume that baseball players only started doing steroids in the late 90's when there are former football players, wrestlers and body builders from the 70's admitting to taking steroids IN THE 70'S which means it's highly likely baseball players was taking steroids in the 70's which mean if they was fair, every baseball player from 1970 until now should have a question mark, not just Bonds and the players from 98 on
During the 70’s hitters weren’t hitting homeruns nor were they even jacked. I believe it was one of the dead ball eras in baseball. 1963-76.
Steroid era in baseball started with Jose conseco
Clemens I don’t care but you can’t leave Barry out of the hall
And Commissioner Selig is in the HOF thanks to Sosa/McGwire/Clemmens/Bonds. Is there an * on his plaque.
Bonds, Clemens and many other players belong in the HOF! Regardless of any 💉PEDs scandals. Thses players made MLB more popular. MLB made a lot of 💰 of these players. "Hall of Shame"
258 homers from ages 35-39, he hit 73 at 36. He has a HOF case but don't ever deny his obvious steroid usage.
I agree with Rob 100%! The same thing will happen with the all time second basemen home run leader Jeff Kent. He should also be in the hall of fame, but the story will repeat again on 2023. Just because the writers and reporters didn't like him. I remember watching a game of the San Francisco Giants against a different team, not sure if it was the Dodgers or another team, but the opposing walk Barry Bonds 4 times in the game. They had to do that in order for them to beat the Giants.
I never watched a baseball game in my life and they only players I know are bonds, a rod and Nolan Ryan cuz that astros throwback was 🔥
Ppl still put bonds ahead of Ken Griffey, not in my book, but just imagine Ken taking the same bonds took and no injuries no one cant touch him💪🏾💪🏾ken is the 🐐
What makes you think Griffey didn't play around with peds? 97,98 numbers don't lie.. he missed games those seasons too and hit 56 homers back to back. He doesn't miss games he would have had 60 both seasons. He just got smart and stopped before he was under suspicion.. was it 99 when he went to the reds and got hurt in pre season and missed like a month and a half of the regular season and yet still hit 48 home runs? I love watching Griffey too im not a hater of him at all. But im pretty sure he was mixed up in the era himself for a short time.
The reason is because they were both unliked by most people in mlb
It’s sad that they didn’t get in I wonder how many racist are in the Hall 🤔🧐 since integrity and respect mean so much
43 IQ take
Racist? Ortiz and Frank Thomas look white to you?
@@njfuentesrespecter81 I’m not your dad
I have not watched Baseball since Bonds retired…
They act like the HOF is a church or something. It's not. It's got folks that are flawed. Human beings. Let Rose, Bonds and Clemens in, for crying out loud!
Clemens and Bonds not in the Hall is like if the NFL told Ray Lewis and Tom Brady they can’t be in the Hall because of Rays case and Toms cheating scandals
Pete Rose and Bonds should both be in.
Mlb network are all afraid to say Bonds should get in.
They might get canned by Manfred.
Or to put it another way Rosenthalled. I don't care what woke fans or writers think.
Put them in the HOF and Give them their flowers while they are here. PEDs didn't Hit the Ball, Pitch the Ball, and Ran the Base Path, and that if it's Evident. Barry Bonds Accomplishment of Homers, Walks, and Stolen Bases along should get Him in. The Association that He had with the Greats was Motivation enough for Barry to Compete. Roger was the Terror on the Mound Period. Barry was arguably the Most Feared Hitters, even making Defensive Shifts and Strategies because of it. Pete got the Talent for Always getting on Base. Whether They Hated Barry Bonds or Not, Every Ball Park He Showed Up at the Fans took Selfies and Pictures of Him, Booing and Cheering Also. Put Them in Cooperstown with a Asterisk ✳️ by Their Name, because They Belong if Anyone. He still looks good Today, and the Hate was and is Astounding.
I can never agree with rob on anything 🤦🏻♂️
And he’s always being anti -LA
Only time I watched baseball is when these players are involved: Barry Bonds, Nolan Ryan, KG Jr., A-Rod.....nothing follows ,over and out!
No ! Juiced = no HOF.
And Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Alex Rodriquez should all be in the hall of fame !!!!
Barry Bonds not being in the hall of fame should be one if the biggest topics/controversies in sports right now. However, baseball is so irrelevant causing the general public to not even care about this. Baseball can't get out of its own way time after time...RIP Baseball
Trust if they could get Roger in without backlash, he would have been in the HOF.
Put that brotha in the HALL!!!
Bonds was a 274/24/79 guy before he juiced. In what world is that a hall of famer? NOWHERE
Idc what anyone says roids doesn't give u the outstanding hand eye talent Bonds had. You will be strong asf and still strike out
My 2 favorite MLB players.
Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame
If I was Barry Bonds I would not even want to be in the hall of fame. It's beneath him that's how great he was even before he allegedly started juicing. Remember folks that Barry Bonds never tested positive for peds and was never suspended for any violations of the drug policy. And those tests were random not predictable.
They don’t deserve it good job voters
MLB is guilty themselves! They juiced the balls during times to increase TV ratings Baseball blocking players that saved Baseball is just wrong!!!! Bonds Clemens Rose and Shoeless Joe in my opinion should be in the rest we can make arguments
Totally agree, those 4 guys are undeniably HOFers. It’s ludicrous to keep those 4 out given the profundity of the impact they had on the game as players. Bonds is easily the best player since 1970 imo…I can’t think of any other hitter that could change the game the way he could.
No Bonds should not get inducted , if he does then McGwire should as well
They should both be in
Chris Broussard has no feel for radio. He interrupts Rob and all callers like crazy. He’s a nice guy but he’s more of a TV segment guy.
It's crazy bc I feel like Bonds and Clemons were HOF bound before the PED use... So they need to be in!! Should have been in as well as P. Rose
Bro I'm born and raised in Boston if you let in Ortiz you have to at least let in the rocket and bonds. They were hall of famers who were jealous of young talent
The man had 7 silver sluggers and 3 mvps before he started juicing
So they better put that on Ortiz’s plaque
The all time homerun and walk leader is not in the hof. Are you kidding?
You couldn’t pitch to him and that wasn’t steroids he the greatest hitter ever he would see 1 2 pitches a game and crush them every time
Damn So Rob And Chris want Cheaters to be Rewarded??????? Nah I'm Good. Keep them Cheaters Out!!!!!
Hall of fame’s are not what they should. It should not be a history of the game.
Just because you can’t tell the story of the sport without saying there name doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. Everyone talks about Pete Rose but what do most people mention first his “Charlie hustle” or betting? Museum and hall of fame should not the same thing.
It is all tainted, it is all hypocritical, it is all disgusting. Baseball is dead. The people that resurrected it have now been sacrificed.
Showalter walked Bonds with the bases loaded BEFORE he took peds..
All time leader in walks. How does roids help you become all time leader in walks. Something doesn't make sense when it comes to Bonds. No failed drug test, no suspension . The only proof comes from a criminal mouth. Makes me think about what Hank Aaron went threw when he became the all time leader in HR. Now 2 black guys past Ruth. The next one will see the same treatment.
Ortiz was on the Mitchell report with other guys yet he is the only one who got in first year. This is a popularity contest, that's all. Bonds won 3 MVPs before roid, Ortiz was a bench player before the roid. That simple.
Rob, why hate on Brady if you think Bonds and Clemens need to be appreciated for their success on the field?
He's nothing but a hypocrite.
The only thing Rob can be known for is his hypocrisy.
36 Black Writers would have Voted for Bonds! 🙄🙄🙄
Shoeless and Bucky weaver first before rose, bonds and the rest of the cheaters.