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@@dianecheney4141I can only try to imagine how tough it would be if your child harmed and killed others. I don’t lack empathy for the Laundries on that front, but I do struggle to have empathy for their actions after.
I think Gabby’s family just wanted it on the record that the Laundrie parents & Bertilino knew that something horrible happened to Gabby. The evasive ridiculous answers proved they all knew & stayed silent.
What I'm getting from this is that they knew of Gabbys demise on day 1 but played stupid about it per their lawyer. So I'm glad the Petitos got answers and a settlement. But wow. Disgusting human beings. NO one is so stupid that they'd take that kind of phone call from a loved one and don't know what it means AND get a lawyer. Absolutely abhorrent behavior and made even worse with this depo. Omg. 😢 oh boy and the mom is playing super dumb in her depo.
I wish a volunteer dream team of attorneys were all working together to get justice for this family!! Even if only to boost their own name and career. The laundry’s should be held accountable!
Agree. However, re: "... the mom playing super dumb ... ", well, I don't think she's playing. Not at all. It's now crystal clear to me -- even *more so* after these depos -- that mommy's not the sharpest crayon in the box. And her sense of humor sux!
I mean, he literally said she was "gone," and that he needs a lawyer! That's as close as you can get to saying "I killed her" without saying it. Like.... where tf would she go??? It was *her* van. Why would he need legal rep? This is just despicable. They really knew the whole time.
Yah he is still lying. Just because something sounds plausible doesn't make it probable or even likely. Everyone with half an ounce of common sense can see that.
It leaves me with exactly what I have thought all along; that the Laundries knew what Brian had done and were willing to protect him at all costs! The fact that they knew Gabby’s family were frantic was not a concern of their’s, in my mind a despicable action from self absorbed people whose only thought was for themselves and their son.
Roberta Laundrie: I didn’t know what gone meant. It could mean anything. Also Roberta Laundrie: I was heart broken to learn that Gabbie was gone from the news …. The cognitive dissonance is shocking. Like there, right there. You’re caught, in my mind. That’s definitive for me. You knew. You knew what gone meant.
Settlement or no, the Laundries will always be hated because of their own behavior. They brought it along with their son. I wonder if part of the settlement was the Laundries having to tell the Petitos the truth in private and to apologize for their callous and selfish behavior. But I believe things would have turned out waaayy differently if the Laundries reached out the first day/day after to the Petitos. The trajectory of everything would be affected at that point. Thanks EDB for your narration and comments!
Parents covering for their child killing another human, will never make sense to me. My parents love me deeply and very much, I've messed up a bit here in the last 2 years, but I'm 28 and still loved very much. Yet my parents would never cover or hide if I told them in any shape or form "my partner is GONE." I'd be handed over to cops in 2 seconds flat. There would be no "let's go camping, before the police get involved and find you" no. Cops, jail/prison, don't pass go, do not collect 200$. To me not hading him over was not an act of love, it was an act of protecting their reputation, cuz no one wants to be related to a murderer.
I feel that Gabby has been let down again, sorry. I feel that the Laundries knew that Gabby was no longer alive and that the truth will never out and that justice has still not been served for Gabby. The mob outside the house didn't help, they are pond life and some are still at it today, at least one of them is banned from Y/Tube. The Laundries just got off poor Gabby 😥
Such a nice good boy. 🙄 Edit: I am 54 years old. I don’t know Roberta’s age but I would assume she’s around my age. I date all of my letters and cards. It’s something we were taught to do back in the day. My parents do it and my ex husband does it. All of my siblings do it. I will never buy that she didn’t intentionally leave the date off the letter. In summary, they knew and covered for him in my opinion.
I’m 40 and I date everything too! Maybe not a simple post-it note, but basically everything else. And I too find it difficult to believe she didn’t leave it off on purpose.
I'm 30 and even I date all letters (school trains you to date everything and so does the workforce still) I absolutely agree it was an attempt at plausible deniability.
As for the Petitos, WE don't deserve to know everything THEY do. I'm glad they got whatever info they needed. We need to remember this is just entertainment, this is someone's real life and we need to respect that. My heart goes out to them.
Gabby was a part of a community, protected under law, therefore that community deserves the truth and full disclosure. Many more people would have cared about her and be affected by her demise and need closure too.
@@zerowheeler you (and the rest of the world) don't deserve all the answers the family is entitled too. You are not immediate or extended family of the victim, nor is the rest of the world. We WANT answers, but the only ones that have a RIGHT and DESERVE answers are the families involved. A fan only had the connection that GABBIE allowed. A fan doesn't know Gabbie day in and day out, as family would. You don't deserve answers, you are not the one that has suffered that actual loss of her in your life. All you and the rest of the world that didn't know Gabbie, only lost entertainment. Don't spout nonsense, what you want reviled would or could send the world on a Vigilante streak, seeking justice on a dead man's family because the laws hands are tied. The world does not deserve to know what her family knows, and it's selfish and self centered to assert that you or the world deserves it. You want the world to know what the parents do, okay. So what if the laundries KNEW about Gabbie, but the laws hands are tied for multiple reason. What do you think the world would do with that information; just MOVE ON?!?! No, we have some sick people out there that will take justice into their own hands, like THEY have a right to go after his parents. That's exactly what would happen. So no, you don't deserve anymore answers than what you have. Gabbies PARENTS AND FAMILY are the ones that DESERVE and have a RIGHT to know what happened to her. This was someone's life, someone YOU didn't know. You have no rights to know anything or everything about a person.
@@spamachuchan8824 I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn’t thinking of myself. I was thinking of the close friends she made during her lifetime. I have a daughter the same age and she’s loved by friends and people she grew up with, those she’s known since she was 3 years old, she has young people who she treats like brothers and sisters, who would be suffering from not knowing what happened. I’m sure there’s a big part of that community who knew and loved her and are grieving as well as her parents. Both families need the protection of the law regardless. Information comes out in court every day that effects someone’s family.
12:45 Exactly. There was video proof, Ruby was abusive before Jodi came into the picture, to the point her own child called CPS. Ruby’s attempt to make herself the martyr in this case fell flat. I’m still gobsmacked Kevin hasn’t been charged as an accessory. Thank you Emily. 💜
They sound more guilty now than before! I knew roberta knew where her don was because after dsys searching for Brian professionals couldn't find him but the day the laundries went out, they went straight to his body!! Guilty! 😮
1 - Defiitely interested in all the depositions. 2 - What infuriates me is that they say they loved her, and then abandoned her just because their son needed help. Both things can be true - one CAN want to support and help their own child and STILL be concerned about the missing fiance. They chose not to. They just wrote her off as if she never mattered. What if someone other than their son had done something to her? Would they have expressed concern for her then? I think, maybe not. They were quick to push her and her family aside. 3 - What they did, knowing - or at least suspecting that she was dead, was cruel.
I cannot imagine being the Petito’s and watching the Laudrie’s give their depositions about them loving Gabby. I don’t have children but I became an older sister as a teenager and if that was one of my little sisters I honestly don’t know if I could keep my composure. They did not love Gabby. When you truly love someone you will do your best for them. They did not do their best for her at all. They only cared about Brian. Which is within their legal right but morally speaking we all feel the same way about the Laundrie’s. They were cold hearted to her.
They absolutely knew. There is no question. From the moment the attorney was telling them not to talk to Brian about anything, well that's all you need to know right there. They should've communicated with Gabby's parents.
It’s clear the laundries knew. The only reason you pay a $25k retainer to a lawyer and say you can’t talk on advice from your lawyer AND your son says his fiancé is just Gone…
Do you think it was her? I think it might have been Christopher. We've heard hardly anything about him, but Roberta's letter gives off the impression that she's one of those super clingy "boy mums".
It makes no sense to want your son to unalive himself. I would rather he be in prison and alive. I think she honestly believed they were going through the legal channels, but Brian didn’t want to face the consequences and therefore took the easy way out.
@@missymurphy9996 It makes no sense to most people but I have felt like this about her for a long time. Just so many little things, including her knowing right where to go to find his remains when the water went down in that area.
I’m wondering if the Landries just don’t want the public to know his daughter and grandkids last names to keep them from being harassed. Just a thought.
Mu..rde.. would be the very first thought any parent would have if their Son/Daughter called them frantic saying "she/he's gone" and "help me, get me a lawyer, help me" repeatedly. These parents are still being completely dishonest and playing dumb.
Not this parent. I might think she'd run off with another person. I'd think drugs and infidelity or a mental health crisis. I'd think my son might have been an ass and left her her and or that bad choices had snowballed. Stuf and people they might be involved with that they don't talk to their parent's about. My mind would not immediately go to murder. Later maybe as info came in. But not off the bat.
@@theConquerersMamawhy ask for a lawyer then? They weren't married. Also if she's left him wouldn't you as a parent question why he still has HER VAN? Like just being real here I give my kids the benefit of the doubt but I don't wear blinders. The benefit of doubt is different than being in denial... Ignoring obvious red flags in your child's story is called denial.
The Laundrie parents sound very aloof with his son. Lord, if what they say was true it sounds like they really didn’t care, or preoccupied, or in a strange state of denial. Very Very Odd Behavior!
If she was really worried about her son and cared about her son, the way she says she cares about him, she would have made him do the right thing and he would probably still be alive today. It might not be the way he wanted to live his life but she would be able to visit him and talk to him and see him if she would have just done the right thing
If my son called me and said my gf is gone, I’d be asking lots of questions. The only reason you deny knowing and asking questions is bc you don’t want to become an accessory. I want to believe that if I was in the Laundrie’s shoes, I would do everything possible to help my kid take responsibility for his actions and not put everyone through a bunch of unnecessary trauma.
I’m at the beginning but my opinion is the Laundrie’s settled because they didn’t want to keep getting public hate. They didn’t want people to see them for WHAT THEY ARE. What they are has little to do with what their son did in reality and everything to do with their reaction to it. Despicable.
@@redpill1940 both sides lost children but only ONE side caused that to happen. I’m sorry they lost someone but they lose access to empathy with how they’ve handled this.
@@redpill1940if they had called the authorities immediately they would possibly still have their son and their reputation intact and be facing head on the sadness, shock and grief that their son had killed a beautiful young person. Their behaviour wasn’t kind.
In an extremely roundabout way while attempting to be as vague as possible, but yeah, they absolutely knew their son killed his fiancé, but they weren't going to press it because their lawyer told them to keep their mouths shut and not talk to Brian about it - likely so they could avoid legal implication of being aware of a murder and knowingly help cover it up.
I saw a very interesting interview with Jodi's niece (She was "raised" by Jodi for a few yrs....poor girl) & when all this come out she said that she felt this was ALL Jodi. She also said that Ruby was at fault 💯% but she can 'see' Jodi & her HORRIBLE treatment because of how she was treated. This entire thing is terrible.
Replay crew here. Emily, please get the deposition of the attorney, I'd love to see more of it. Also the Laundrie father and this grandchildren name issue, that's insane. He's very obiously working his hardest to be dilberately an obstical to any information.
Thank you for breaking this down. I do have a sense of closure even though it leaves me feeling angry. I pray both these families can move forward and that hateful people leave them alone.
Thanks so much, Emily. It was all so sad. I’m so glad it settled and pray they all find some sort of comfort and peace knowing the hole in their heats will ever be filled. I think they were putting their son first and you really can’t blame them for that. Such a hard case, thankfully it settled.
I feel like this is a good example of 1) being out of touch with your children 2) bad communication between parent and child. 3) ignorance. Yes I understand protecting your child. However these depos seemed like they either didn’t want to ask themselves the hard questions about what their son did to Gabby or they didn’t care about Gabby enough to be willing to seek the truth. Very sad! Also why would you not want to know where your son was when your reported missing and knew he was located? That is very odd. As a parent you should be worried about him and jumping in that car the minute you get that call. All of this scream either very out of touch parents or guilty of hiding information they knew and were trying to act like they were in the dark about.
I know how things work but it’s still breaking my brain that you’re premiering this here and live-streaming from the same channel, A+ multitasking EDB team!!!
A baker act. A seizure of a person's rights so they go to a crisis stabilization unit for behavioral /mental health care to protect themselves or others from their intentions.
No, bc if they knew he killed her; If he confessed to that in therapy he'd go to prison. So they let him choose to kill himself or go to prison. From what I remember Utah gives the death penalty for murder. So he does it now or waits in agony for execution?
Here’s the real sad part about it if the laundries would have notified the authorities, and they found her son and Gabby though Gabby is gone they would still have their son. But because they acted the way they did it costed them their son also
And the public vitriol. Bertalino makes out that it just happened for no reason. It was a response to their behavior. It didn't happen in a vacuum. They had better options for how to handle this that would have seen a different outcome.
@therealz360z7it's nearly 6pm here in Scotland I am sitting listening to the birds chirping away as night time falls, I do love hearing the birds at this time of the year. I hope you are happy safe and well in Ohio xx
I'm definitely interested in the full deposition! There's so much that's being confirmed of what we've already suspected. I'm glad they settled, this trial would have been incredibly messy and emotionally difficult and at the end of the day, wouldn't have brought back either of the deceased.
If "Gabby is gone" didn't mean she was dead, as a parent you would say "you don't need a lawyer" give Gabby back her van & we'll send you money to fly home... the Laundries are lying, their deposition is horribly evasive, they are guilty of concealing information that should have been shared with the Petito family, ( the Petitos didn't even know that Brian had her van until the police notified them.) since the Laundries loved Gabby🙄 They should have had the decency to communicate with the Petitos.
The Laundrie family, before Brian dissapeared: Don't talk to anyone about Gabby's death. Don't talk to her family or the public. After he dissapeared: Oh poor us, our son is missing. Oh, and our future daughter in law, and we've been ignoring her family for two weeks, but who cares, OUR BABY IS GOOOONE!!! Make. It. Make. Sense.
RESPECT - for Emily D Baker. God knows that I’m tryna stay out of rabbit holes because I’m retired now and the days can disappear without a trace of productivity BUT You really put in the work!!! And - as with Depp v Heard (OMG!!! So many days lost to me!!!) I was fascinated, appalled, outraged, informed - and ultimately reassured that someone from Law World understands me, the innocent bystander who deeply wants justice to be done. While I struggle with podcast addiction, let me say that I will never forsake Emily D Baker - although getting the app would be the death of me.
I come from a dysfunctional family that doesnt talk about anything, but goddamn the laundries make my parents look downright communicative. I'm a mother now and if my son came home with his girlfriends van and told me she was "gone," i'd be badgering the living hell out of him until I got an answer. How did they all just go on about their business? So weird.
Smartest comment I've seen. The pre-murder remarks about knowing so little about the lockup etc, demonstrate this was not a happy household BEFORE this happened. The dynamic between Brian and his parents was not normal. We can only theorize if they knew he was an abuser or the type who forgive all their child's bad behaviour but their was certainly something wrong with their relationship with their son.
They didn't say it strictly, but I assume he said that he couldn't live with her blood on his hands. He probably killed her at rage when they were fighting. It's often ends with suicide from the killer. They were trying to save his life. This hideous trip to the camping site was for calming him down, and they were hoping for her body were never found and their murderous son would be living freely after that. It didn't work out. He got some final dignity and finally did it himself. They didn't care about Gabbie and her parents at all. It was all about their precious son.
I have heard conversations like these depositions. It's not unusual in an alcoholic/addiction family system. It is maddening -- like trying to nail Jello to the wall. There's willful blindness, unconscious denial, fear of making anyone upset because everyone is like a ticking bomb, and the most innocent comment can cause an explosion, so you keep to yourself, and stick to safe subjects, like the weather.
I hope children’s services are FINALLY paying attention to netazines about the Franke parents. We warned them about Ruby & the consensus is that giving custody to Kevin would be a huge mistake that could end up in a second child abuse case
"Keep him safe, Keep Him Close" is similar to a line from Lord Of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring". Gandalf says to Frodo at the beginning of the movie; "Keep it [The One Ring] safe, keep it close." If she quotes and obscure movie like Burn After Reading, she took that line from LOTR
Wasn't his body underwater because that area had flooded? With all the debris and silt and stuff floods carry with them, his body might have been hidden pretty well.
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I have actually heard that joke about a good friend being someone who shows up with trash bags and a shovel. I also laughed but I'm not even friends with myself enough to do that alone. Murder is well beyond the line where I would be compelled to call the police.
The “I need a lawyer” as someone said above would make you wonder, but also the use of gone later in her deposition when referring to seeing Gabby was dead on the news. She uses gone that way. She understands it to mean deceased or dead. She uses it that way colloquially.
I would not immediately go to murder. I might think infidelity or drugs or a fight - maybe even with a third party. But I would not immediately think murder.
Maybe because people in my family have had situations where they called from jail in Mexico or other trips. Where situations snowballed. And while we're definitely bad choices and mental health crises but none were murder. Also have experience with young people who do "take off". Again there has been either mental health issues or drugs/drinking involved. So bad choices that lead to being around other people in some dangerous situations and strange circumstances . So asking for a lawyer and claiming up & being an emotional wreck doesn't immediately make me think murder.
@@theConquerersMamano, maybe you wouldn’t think murder, but I would get my son a lawyer and somewhere safe and then get the mental help he needed, ask questions and tell the authorities everything. I would think his girlfriend may need help, may not be safe without her van. A wellness check for her, or talk with her parents to see if she had been in touch. Normal human behaviour. 😢
I know this has nothing to do with the video and I haven't been over in awhile...but your new wedding set is so beautiful! I mean so was the other one of course. But so pretty 😍❤️ Also thank you for making a video on this.
My take on the letter: Roberta is a boy mom. She saw the way brian treated Gabby, but took her son's side and just assumed that she broke his heart and was joking about the shovel and bags. She was, in fact, not joking about the tide sticks. There was probably a lot of strife in the household between brian and Gabby and they were happy that the pair was leaving for a period because it was causing unease in the rest of the house. They probably blamed Gabby for brian's behavior leading up to Gabby's death because brian very likely didn't get murdery out of nowhere. He was very likely ramping things up with the support of his parents. Is this all speculation? Yes. But having been in an abusive relationship with a partner who had a family kind of like this, it feels a bit familiar
You must use “One Skin”, because… DAMN!! I thought you were in your early 30s! But then I learned that you’ve been an attorney for 17 years? So that means… you started law school when you were 13!!! You look AMAZING!! ❤️❤️❤️
Square 103, RL talking about before Brian and gabby headed up to NY, but she’s saying “empty the storage unit”…that’s when the kids were putting stuff *in* the storage unit & the laundries apparently didn’t notice that the kids belongings weren’t in the house. Huh? RL: “I had waited for us to move in together” Did Brian live on his own for awhile? I’m getting the feeling the laundries are knowingly ignorant about so many facets of life…not knowing your grandkids last name is a big red flag.
If the parents of an assailant had *any* hope that the victim was alive, would they really accept a lawyer telling them to not speak to him about it? Absolutely not. They would try harder than anyone else to find her so that their son gets time for assault instead of manslaughter or murder.
Divine Madame in Purple. Thanks for all of your heartfelt analysis regarding this case. I am a mother like you, and this was so hard for me, you know to forgive the Landry parents. Maybe because I have a daughter? But you got me there in the end. The fact is yes, they were thinking about their son first and right or wrong, that is what parents do.. Peace. ☮️
It seems clear that the Laundries didn't want to know what "gone" meant. Also, you can care for other people's children but rarely will you care more for them than for your own child. I think that's human instinct. I'd like to believe we would all do the right thing in this scenario but when it involves your child many would probably do most anything to protect their child especially if they don't know what happened. I find the hate and harassment for the Laundries unnecessary. I hope Gabby can now rest in peace and her family finds peace.
I think they did know but understood their attny's advice to not talk about it - to B, or ANYONE. Anything they might have said could have been twisted, used against them, and their son. I wish peace for both families.
I agree. I have a son and I would like to think that if I was in their shoes that I would do the right thing, but I also know that the urge to protect my son at all costs would definitely be there. They were thrown into a very public case that they could never have prepared for and were being vilified by the world. My heart breaks for the entire situation and I hope both families can find a measure of peace.
@@zerowheeler I agree, they didn’t. If they had encouraged him to turn himself in, he might still be alive. My own speculation is that they either knew or suspected that he was going to unalive himself and didn’t stop him, allowing him to do what he felt he had to do. Everyone lost in this case. I wish that they would have made the decision to end their trip after the Moab incident. Separating and coming home to take time apart would have been the best thing they could have done.
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My clients, who raised a murderer, needed sympathy too
@@dianecheney4141I can only try to imagine how tough it would be if your child harmed and killed others. I don’t lack empathy for the Laundries on that front, but I do struggle to have empathy for their actions after.
I think Gabby’s family just wanted it on the record that the Laundrie parents & Bertilino knew that something horrible happened to Gabby. The evasive ridiculous answers proved they all knew & stayed silent.
What I'm getting from this is that they knew of Gabbys demise on day 1 but played stupid about it per their lawyer. So I'm glad the Petitos got answers and a settlement. But wow. Disgusting human beings. NO one is so stupid that they'd take that kind of phone call from a loved one and don't know what it means AND get a lawyer. Absolutely abhorrent behavior and made even worse with this depo. Omg. 😢 oh boy and the mom is playing super dumb in her depo.
It was a joke!
What? He killed his fiance after a lot of abuse and confessed about it in his last wish letter. How? How is it funny?
I wish a volunteer dream team of attorneys were all working together to get justice for this family!! Even if only to boost their own name and career. The laundry’s should be held accountable!
So was the dad. (Laundrie).
@@Texas_Painterlegally, what are they accountable for? Genuinely asking.
Agree. However, re: "... the mom playing super dumb ... ", well, I don't think she's playing. Not at all. It's now crystal clear to me -- even *more so* after these depos -- that mommy's not the sharpest crayon in the box. And her sense of humor sux!
If he says he’s driving home wouldn’t your first question be “ how is Gabby getting home “ if you didn’t know she dead?
Right! And why do you have her car?… since she’ll need it
Exactly!
@@Texas_PainterExactly!
I mean, he literally said she was "gone," and that he needs a lawyer! That's as close as you can get to saying "I killed her" without saying it. Like.... where tf would she go??? It was *her* van. Why would he need legal rep? This is just despicable. They really knew the whole time.
Yah he is still lying. Just because something sounds plausible doesn't make it probable or even likely. Everyone with half an ounce of common sense can see that.
It leaves me with exactly what I have thought all along; that the Laundries knew what Brian had done and were willing to protect him at all costs! The fact that they knew Gabby’s family were frantic was not a concern of their’s, in my mind a despicable action from self absorbed people whose only thought was for themselves and their son.
Roberta Laundrie: I didn’t know what gone meant. It could mean anything.
Also Roberta Laundrie: I was heart broken to learn that Gabbie was gone from the news
…. The cognitive dissonance is shocking. Like there, right there. You’re caught, in my mind. That’s definitive for me. You knew. You knew what gone meant.
I think it's more of a Freudian slip, not cognitive dissonance. 💚
I didn't believe for a second that if she didn't know what he meant that she didn't ask more questions.
There is definitely something very off about Roberta. She talked about her son like he was a 4-year-old. 😢
@@fioregiallo came here to say this, absolutely
Settlement or no, the Laundries will always be hated because of their own behavior. They brought it along with their son. I wonder if part of the settlement was the Laundries having to tell the Petitos the truth in private and to apologize for their callous and selfish behavior. But I believe things would have turned out waaayy differently if the Laundries reached out the first day/day after to the Petitos. The trajectory of everything would be affected at that point. Thanks EDB for your narration and comments!
Exactly. They talk about the public harassment but that was a response. Handling the situation differently would have prevented it.
Parents covering for their child killing another human, will never make sense to me. My parents love me deeply and very much, I've messed up a bit here in the last 2 years, but I'm 28 and still loved very much. Yet my parents would never cover or hide if I told them in any shape or form "my partner is GONE." I'd be handed over to cops in 2 seconds flat. There would be no "let's go camping, before the police get involved and find you" no. Cops, jail/prison, don't pass go, do not collect 200$. To me not hading him over was not an act of love, it was an act of protecting their reputation, cuz no one wants to be related to a murderer.
This. It’s not because their son murdered someone. It’s their actions after
Bertolino's predicament is EXACTLY why adjacent parties should NOT share a lawyer.
I'm glad the Petito family pursued a case and got these depositions out of the Laundries. Very illuminating. Glad they've been made public.
The fact that she kept saying “gone” about when they “found out from the news” that Gabby was deceased pretty much says it.
What a bizarre family. I feel so much for the Petitos.
Would of loved to see the laundries dragged through court and forced to talk, but I’m happy the petitos got some form of closure
I feel that Gabby has been let down again, sorry. I feel that the Laundries knew that Gabby was no longer alive and that the truth will never out and that justice has still not been served for Gabby. The mob outside the house didn't help, they are pond life and some are still at it today, at least one of them is banned from Y/Tube. The Laundries just got off poor Gabby 😥
Such a nice good boy. 🙄 Edit: I am 54 years old. I don’t know Roberta’s age but I would assume she’s around my age. I date all of my letters and cards. It’s something we were taught to do back in the day. My parents do it and my ex husband does it. All of my siblings do it. I will never buy that she didn’t intentionally leave the date off the letter. In summary, they knew and covered for him in my opinion.
I’m 40 and I date everything too! Maybe not a simple post-it note, but basically everything else. And I too find it difficult to believe she didn’t leave it off on purpose.
Yup. I’m 47 and I date everything too
I'm 30 and even I date all letters (school trains you to date everything and so does the workforce still) I absolutely agree it was an attempt at plausible deniability.
School taught me to date everything and my mom taught me to remember everyone's birthday death date and stuff like that! I'm 41 years old
As for the Petitos, WE don't deserve to know everything THEY do. I'm glad they got whatever info they needed. We need to remember this is just entertainment, this is someone's real life and we need to respect that. My heart goes out to them.
Gabby was a part of a community, protected under law, therefore that community deserves the truth and full disclosure.
Many more people would have cared about her and be affected by her demise and need closure too.
@@zerowheeler you (and the rest of the world) don't deserve all the answers the family is entitled too. You are not immediate or extended family of the victim, nor is the rest of the world. We WANT answers, but the only ones that have a RIGHT and DESERVE answers are the families involved. A fan only had the connection that GABBIE allowed. A fan doesn't know Gabbie day in and day out, as family would. You don't deserve answers, you are not the one that has suffered that actual loss of her in your life. All you and the rest of the world that didn't know Gabbie, only lost entertainment. Don't spout nonsense, what you want reviled would or could send the world on a Vigilante streak, seeking justice on a dead man's family because the laws hands are tied. The world does not deserve to know what her family knows, and it's selfish and self centered to assert that you or the world deserves it. You want the world to know what the parents do, okay. So what if the laundries KNEW about Gabbie, but the laws hands are tied for multiple reason. What do you think the world would do with that information; just MOVE ON?!?! No, we have some sick people out there that will take justice into their own hands, like THEY have a right to go after his parents. That's exactly what would happen. So no, you don't deserve anymore answers than what you have. Gabbies PARENTS AND FAMILY are the ones that DESERVE and have a RIGHT to know what happened to her. This was someone's life, someone YOU didn't know. You have no rights to know anything or everything about a person.
@@spamachuchan8824 I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn’t thinking of myself.
I was thinking of the close friends she made during her lifetime. I have a daughter the same age and she’s loved by friends and people she grew up with, those she’s known since she was 3 years old, she has young people who she treats like brothers and sisters, who would be suffering from not knowing what happened. I’m sure there’s a big part of that community who knew and loved her and are grieving as well as her parents.
Both families need the protection of the law regardless.
Information comes out in court every day that effects someone’s family.
Typically when someone tells you something and you dont know what it means, you ask what it means. They act like no one wondered. As if.
12:45 Exactly. There was video proof, Ruby was abusive before Jodi came into the picture, to the point her own child called CPS. Ruby’s attempt to make herself the martyr in this case fell flat. I’m still gobsmacked Kevin hasn’t been charged as an accessory.
Thank you Emily. 💜
They sound more guilty now than before! I knew roberta knew where her don was because after dsys searching for Brian professionals couldn't find him but the day the laundries went out, they went straight to his body!! Guilty! 😮
1 - Defiitely interested in all the depositions. 2 - What infuriates me is that they say they loved her, and then abandoned her just because their son needed help. Both things can be true - one CAN want to support and help their own child and STILL be concerned about the missing fiance. They chose not to. They just wrote her off as if she never mattered. What if someone other than their son had done something to her? Would they have expressed concern for her then? I think, maybe not. They were quick to push her and her family aside. 3 - What they did, knowing - or at least suspecting that she was dead, was cruel.
Yes, and supporting him can mean making him face the consequences of his actions.
@@rebeccam1392 100%
I cannot imagine being the Petito’s and watching the Laudrie’s give their depositions about them loving Gabby. I don’t have children but I became an older sister as a teenager and if that was one of my little sisters I honestly don’t know if I could keep my composure. They did not love Gabby. When you truly love someone you will do your best for them. They did not do their best for her at all. They only cared about Brian. Which is within their legal right but morally speaking we all feel the same way about the Laundrie’s. They were cold hearted to her.
They absolutely knew. There is no question. From the moment the attorney was telling them not to talk to Brian about anything, well that's all you need to know right there. They should've communicated with Gabby's parents.
It’s clear the laundries knew. The only reason you pay a $25k retainer to a lawyer and say you can’t talk on advice from your lawyer AND your son says his fiancé is just Gone…
So sad, they knew what it felt like to have a missing child, the desperation and heartache, yet they did not put themselves in Gaby's parents shoes.
I will always feel like Roberta talked Brian into unaliving himself. All of her responses are so bizarre
Do you think it was her? I think it might have been Christopher. We've heard hardly anything about him, but Roberta's letter gives off the impression that she's one of those super clingy "boy mums".
It makes no sense to want your son to unalive himself. I would rather he be in prison and alive. I think she honestly believed they were going through the legal channels, but Brian didn’t want to face the consequences and therefore took the easy way out.
@@missymurphy9996 It makes no sense to most people but I have felt like this about her for a long time. Just so many little things, including her knowing right where to go to find his remains when the water went down in that area.
I’m wondering if the Landries just don’t want the public to know his daughter and grandkids last names to keep them from being harassed. Just a thought.
Mu..rde.. would be the very first thought any parent would have if their Son/Daughter called them frantic saying "she/he's gone" and "help me, get me a lawyer, help me" repeatedly. These parents are still being completely dishonest and playing dumb.
Not this parent. I might think she'd run off with another person. I'd think drugs and infidelity or a mental health crisis. I'd think my son might have been an ass and left her her and or that bad choices had snowballed. Stuf and people they might be involved with that they don't talk to their parent's about.
My mind would not immediately go to murder. Later maybe as info came in. But not off the bat.
They knew and they knew not to ask before the lawyer said not to ask, it’s pretty clear given the run around answers
@@theConquerersMamawhy ask for a lawyer then? They weren't married. Also if she's left him wouldn't you as a parent question why he still has HER VAN?
Like just being real here I give my kids the benefit of the doubt but I don't wear blinders.
The benefit of doubt is different than being in denial...
Ignoring obvious red flags in your child's story is called denial.
My hope is that the Petito's have found some peace with all of this.
Emily, you're so good at analyzing human behavior, with compassion
The Laundrie parents sound very aloof with his son. Lord, if what they say was true it sounds like they really didn’t care, or preoccupied, or in a strange state of denial. Very Very Odd Behavior!
They're absolutely just playing stupid, and it's infuriating.
If she was really worried about her son and cared about her son, the way she says she cares about him, she would have made him do the right thing and he would probably still be alive today. It might not be the way he wanted to live his life but she would be able to visit him and talk to him and see him if she would have just done the right thing
If my son called me and said my gf is gone, I’d be asking lots of questions. The only reason you deny knowing and asking questions is bc you don’t want to become an accessory. I want to believe that if I was in the Laundrie’s shoes, I would do everything possible to help my kid take responsibility for his actions and not put everyone through a bunch of unnecessary trauma.
I’m at the beginning but my opinion is the Laundrie’s settled because they didn’t want to keep getting public hate. They didn’t want people to see them for WHAT THEY ARE. What they are has little to do with what their son did in reality and everything to do with their reaction to it. Despicable.
"Despicable" with a capital D!
Both families lost their children it was hard on both sides.... Perhaps extending a little Grace might be kind ...
@@redpill1940 both sides lost children but only ONE side caused that to happen. I’m sorry they lost someone but they lose access to empathy with how they’ve handled this.
@@redpill1940 Great idea! So, why didn't the LAUNDRIES do just that ???
@@redpill1940if they had called the authorities immediately they would possibly still have their son and their reputation intact and be facing head on the sadness, shock and grief that their son had killed a beautiful young person.
Their behaviour wasn’t kind.
Yes I am absolutely interested in this entire deposition
My opinion is they finally told them the truth
In an extremely roundabout way while attempting to be as vague as possible, but yeah, they absolutely knew their son killed his fiancé, but they weren't going to press it because their lawyer told them to keep their mouths shut and not talk to Brian about it - likely so they could avoid legal implication of being aware of a murder and knowingly help cover it up.
I saw a very interesting interview with Jodi's niece (She was "raised" by Jodi for a few yrs....poor girl) & when all this come out she said that she felt this was ALL Jodi. She also said that Ruby was at fault 💯% but she can 'see' Jodi & her HORRIBLE treatment because of how she was treated. This entire thing is terrible.
Familial sociopaths? Possibility here? Wow! How cold can Christopher Laundry be?
Sweet Gabby, rest in peace beautiful. ❤
Definitely interested in the rest of the depositions.
These parents are incredible. They know a lot more than what they are saying.
Yes I'm interested in the full depo of the laywer
Replay crew here. Emily, please get the deposition of the attorney, I'd love to see more of it. Also the Laundrie father and this grandchildren name issue, that's insane. He's very obiously working his hardest to be dilberately an obstical to any information.
Thank you for breaking this down. I do have a sense of closure even though it leaves me feeling angry. I pray both these families can move forward and that hateful people leave them alone.
They knew but didn't want to know.
Wow Emily. You showed a tremendous amount of compassion for both families. Great recap.
Thanks so much, Emily. It was all so sad. I’m so glad it settled and pray they all find some sort of comfort and peace knowing the hole in their heats will ever be filled. I think they were putting their son first and you really can’t blame them for that. Such a hard case, thankfully it settled.
I feel like this is a good example of 1) being out of touch with your children 2) bad communication between parent and child. 3) ignorance. Yes I understand protecting your child. However these depos seemed like they either didn’t want to ask themselves the hard questions about what their son did to Gabby or they didn’t care about Gabby enough to be willing to seek the truth. Very sad! Also why would you not want to know where your son was when your reported missing and knew he was located? That is very odd. As a parent you should be worried about him and jumping in that car the minute you get that call. All of this scream either very out of touch parents or guilty of hiding information they knew and were trying to act like they were in the dark about.
Thank you for your summary as this feels like the closing. RIP Gabby 🦋
There’s a point where it seems like Christopher sounds like he wants to say he didn’t want to know. Which is probably accurate
Yes, please get the 2nd half of Bertalino's depo. Thank you🌸🤗
I know how things work but it’s still breaking my brain that you’re premiering this here and live-streaming from the same channel, A+ multitasking EDB team!!!
I think what you just said, is the most messed up thing out of all of this.
The laundries knew before the petitio’s, that gabby was gone! 😢😢
If you thought your child was going to unalive themselves, wouldn’t you do everything to keep them from doing that including a 51/50?
What is a 51/50 please x
A baker act. A seizure of a person's rights so they go to a crisis stabilization unit for behavioral /mental health care to protect themselves or others from their intentions.
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No, bc if they knew he killed her; If he confessed to that in therapy he'd go to prison. So they let him choose to kill himself or go to prison. From what I remember Utah gives the death penalty for murder. So he does it now or waits in agony for execution?
@@ktea3744Truth is always better for everyone. It’s not just about his fate.
Here’s the real sad part about it if the laundries would have notified the authorities, and they found her son and Gabby though Gabby is gone they would still have their son. But because they acted the way they did it costed them their son also
And the public vitriol. Bertalino makes out that it just happened for no reason. It was a response to their behavior. It didn't happen in a vacuum. They had better options for how to handle this that would have seen a different outcome.
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@therealz360z7just going in 5pm here in the south of Ireland
@therealz360z7it's nearly 6pm here in Scotland I am sitting listening to the birds chirping away as night time falls, I do love hearing the birds at this time of the year. I hope you are happy safe and well in Ohio xx
My Lawnerd Cup just arrived to me in the UK. 🎉🎉🎉
Also this is absolutely heartbreaking deposition
Thanks for taking the time to read the depos Emily. As frustrating as some may find the L answers, they made sense legally.
Though the Petito’s won’t get punitive Justice against this family, I’m glad they got it on record and aired the Laundries out. Disgusting brood.
I'm definitely interested in the full deposition! There's so much that's being confirmed of what we've already suspected. I'm glad they settled, this trial would have been incredibly messy and emotionally difficult and at the end of the day, wouldn't have brought back either of the deceased.
This entire case makes me sick, the way Gabby died, the information withheld, waiting, etc. she was so young. 😢🙏
If "Gabby is gone" didn't mean she was dead, as a parent you would say "you don't need a lawyer" give Gabby back her van & we'll send you money to fly home... the Laundries are lying, their deposition is horribly evasive, they are guilty of concealing information that should have been shared with the Petito family, ( the Petitos didn't even know that Brian had her van until the police notified them.) since the Laundries loved Gabby🙄 They should have had the decency to communicate with the Petitos.
They steno’d “Burning at the steak”
It’s “burning at the stake”
Lol
The Laundrie family, before Brian dissapeared: Don't talk to anyone about Gabby's death. Don't talk to her family or the public.
After he dissapeared: Oh poor us, our son is missing. Oh, and our future daughter in law, and we've been ignoring her family for two weeks, but who cares, OUR BABY IS GOOOONE!!!
Make. It. Make. Sense.
Every time you read "Pat Riley", all I can picture is the greasy guy who used to coach the New York Knicks in the 90s. :D
Thanks EDB! I hope you are able to go through the full transcript after Rust. This whole situation is heartbreaking 😔
RESPECT - for Emily D Baker. God knows that I’m tryna stay out of rabbit holes because I’m retired now and the days can disappear without a trace of productivity
BUT
You really put in the work!!! And - as with Depp v Heard (OMG!!! So many days lost to me!!!) I was fascinated, appalled, outraged, informed - and ultimately reassured that someone from Law World understands me, the innocent bystander who deeply wants justice to be done.
While I struggle with podcast addiction, let me say that I will never forsake Emily D Baker - although getting the app would be the death of me.
I come from a dysfunctional family that doesnt talk about anything, but goddamn the laundries make my parents look downright communicative. I'm a mother now and if my son came home with his girlfriends van and told me she was "gone," i'd be badgering the living hell out of him until I got an answer. How did they all just go on about their business? So weird.
Smartest comment I've seen. The pre-murder remarks about knowing so little about the lockup etc, demonstrate this was not a happy household BEFORE this happened. The dynamic between Brian and his parents was not normal. We can only theorize if they knew he was an abuser or the type who forgive all their child's bad behaviour but their was certainly something wrong with their relationship with their son.
Thank you for this. I’d be interested in hearing more. I trust your coverage of these matters.
@EDB. Gonna be a very weird stormy/windy day here in Mid-TN. I hope you and yours stay safe.
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They didn't say it strictly, but I assume he said that he couldn't live with her blood on his hands. He probably killed her at rage when they were fighting. It's often ends with suicide from the killer.
They were trying to save his life. This hideous trip to the camping site was for calming him down, and they were hoping for her body were never found and their murderous son would be living freely after that. It didn't work out. He got some final dignity and finally did it himself.
They didn't care about Gabbie and her parents at all. It was all about their precious son.
Also saving their reputation, which didn’t work either. Awful.
Both the parents say “you know” A LOT
The laundries deposition reminds me of a preschooler's answers. Hurts my brain.
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Thank you for being here as well and may all your good wishes come back to you as well.
I have heard conversations like these depositions. It's not unusual in an alcoholic/addiction family system. It is maddening -- like trying to nail Jello to the wall. There's willful blindness, unconscious denial, fear of making anyone upset because everyone is like a ticking bomb, and the most innocent comment can cause an explosion, so you keep to yourself, and stick to safe subjects, like the weather.
this case has been absolutely insane. and has made me want to go back to school for law.
Thank you from your Michigan Replay Crew
Soooooooooo awesome that you covered this!!!!!!!
I hope children’s services are FINALLY paying attention to netazines about the Franke parents. We warned them about Ruby & the consensus is that giving custody to Kevin would be a huge mistake that could end up in a second child abuse case
"Keep him safe, Keep Him Close" is similar to a line from Lord Of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring". Gandalf says to Frodo at the beginning of the movie; "Keep it [The One Ring] safe, keep it close."
If she quotes and obscure movie like Burn After Reading, she took that line from LOTR
yes more deposition and law accountability with Laundries.
I don't understand why the cops did all that searching. If they knew where he was that's really sad
Wasn't his body underwater because that area had flooded? With all the debris and silt and stuff floods carry with them, his body might have been hidden pretty well.
Hello Alex, hello Oreo. Nice to see you both. Wow! You have done an amazing job! You are very talented. I hope you are feeling better. I have been recovering from getting my gallbladder out last Tuesday. TFS xxx
My mom would be busting down doors to get to me, if I had been missing and the police said they had found me...
Thoroughly enjoyed this!! Thank you Emily!!❤❤😊😊
Brian did not "man up" and take responsibility for his actions. Like his family, he made selfish choices.
I have actually heard that joke about a good friend being someone who shows up with trash bags and a shovel. I also laughed but I'm not even friends with myself enough to do that alone. Murder is well beyond the line where I would be compelled to call the police.
I can see how as a parent, you want to believe the best of your child and you don’t process “she’s gone” as “I killed her”. At least not right away.
Maybe but I think the “I need a lawyer” would put a very bad picture in my head.
The “I need a lawyer” as someone said above would make you wonder, but also the use of gone later in her deposition when referring to seeing Gabby was dead on the news. She uses gone that way. She understands it to mean deceased or dead. She uses it that way colloquially.
I would not immediately go to murder. I might think infidelity or drugs or a fight - maybe even with a third party. But I would not immediately think murder.
Maybe because people in my family have had situations where they called from jail in Mexico or other trips. Where situations snowballed. And while we're definitely bad choices and mental health crises but none were murder.
Also have experience with young people who do "take off". Again there has been either mental health issues or drugs/drinking involved. So bad choices that lead to being around other people in some dangerous situations and strange circumstances .
So asking for a lawyer and claiming up & being an emotional wreck doesn't immediately make me think murder.
@@theConquerersMamano, maybe you wouldn’t think murder, but I would get my son a lawyer and somewhere safe and then get the mental help he needed, ask questions and tell the authorities everything.
I would think his girlfriend may need help, may not be safe without her van. A wellness check for her, or talk with her parents to see if she had been in touch.
Normal human behaviour. 😢
Interested in these depositions. I have questions.
more mad t the Laundries then ever with those answers. Prayers to Petitios!
I know this has nothing to do with the video and I haven't been over in awhile...but your new wedding set is so beautiful! I mean so was the other one of course. But so pretty 😍❤️
Also thank you for making a video on this.
My take on the letter: Roberta is a boy mom. She saw the way brian treated Gabby, but took her son's side and just assumed that she broke his heart and was joking about the shovel and bags. She was, in fact, not joking about the tide sticks. There was probably a lot of strife in the household between brian and Gabby and they were happy that the pair was leaving for a period because it was causing unease in the rest of the house. They probably blamed Gabby for brian's behavior leading up to Gabby's death because brian very likely didn't get murdery out of nowhere. He was very likely ramping things up with the support of his parents. Is this all speculation? Yes. But having been in an abusive relationship with a partner who had a family kind of like this, it feels a bit familiar
We’ve had Boy Math, we’ve had Girl Math, we’ve even had Dog Math, and now we have UTAH MATH.
You must use “One Skin”, because… DAMN!! I thought you were in your early 30s! But then I learned that you’ve been an attorney for 17 years? So that means… you started law school when you were 13!!! You look AMAZING!! ❤️❤️❤️
Square 103, RL talking about before Brian and gabby headed up to NY, but she’s saying “empty the storage unit”…that’s when the kids were putting stuff *in* the storage unit & the laundries apparently didn’t notice that the kids belongings weren’t in the house. Huh?
RL: “I had waited for us to move in together” Did Brian live on his own for awhile?
I’m getting the feeling the laundries are knowingly ignorant about so many facets of life…not knowing your grandkids last name is a big red flag.
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If the parents of an assailant had *any* hope that the victim was alive, would they really accept a lawyer telling them to not speak to him about it? Absolutely not. They would try harder than anyone else to find her so that their son gets time for assault instead of manslaughter or murder.
Yes, I’d contact her family to see if she had spoken to them.
Divine Madame in Purple. Thanks for all of your heartfelt analysis regarding this case. I am a mother like you, and this was so hard for me, you know to forgive the Landry parents. Maybe because I have a daughter? But you got me there in the end. The fact is yes, they were thinking about their son first and right or wrong, that is what parents do.. Peace. ☮️
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To me, this brings up more questions than answers.
It seems clear that the Laundries didn't want to know what "gone" meant. Also, you can care for other people's children but rarely will you care more for them than for your own child. I think that's human instinct. I'd like to believe we would all do the right thing in this scenario but when it involves your child many would probably do most anything to protect their child especially if they don't know what happened. I find the hate and harassment for the Laundries unnecessary. I hope Gabby can now rest in peace and her family finds peace.
I think they did know but understood their attny's advice to not talk about it - to B, or ANYONE. Anything they might have said could have been twisted, used against them, and their son. I wish peace for both families.
I agree. I have a son and I would like to think that if I was in their shoes that I would do the right thing, but I also know that the urge to protect my son at all costs would definitely be there. They were thrown into a very public case that they could never have prepared for and were being vilified by the world. My heart breaks for the entire situation and I hope both families can find a measure of peace.
@@foxymama9203but they didn’t protect their son. At all.
@@zerowheeler I agree, they didn’t. If they had encouraged him to turn himself in, he might still be alive. My own speculation is that they either knew or suspected that he was going to unalive himself and didn’t stop him, allowing him to do what he felt he had to do. Everyone lost in this case. I wish that they would have made the decision to end their trip after the Moab incident. Separating and coming home to take time apart would have been the best thing they could have done.
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