What HAPPENED to the Rakata after KOTOR?
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- The Ancient Rakata defined galactic history, but their lust for power eventually brought them to their knees. But what happened to the Rakata after KOTOR and did they show up again in history?
0:00 Intro
0:40 Fall of the Infinite Empire
2:22 Civil War on Rakata Prime
4:00 Knights of the Old Republic
4:53 Rakata Join the Republic
5:55 Rakatan Archipelago
8:58 Conclusion
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I got to make TWO Rakatan videos in a week?? AWWWW YEEE - I can't wait to see these guys in the Remake
Fascinating
So, you gonna slaughter them all or just spare the elders?
What were the sources for this video? I want to go read into it more.
@@bobbyglass6723 For the Archipelago, the Unknowm Regions.
For the pre KOTOR stuff, mainly the lore in KOTOR itself.
Nice thumbnail though
When you said the Rakatan's could have returned, my heart broke a little more.
For me, thematically and lore-wise, the Rakatan content we got is more than sufficient.
They demonstrate the archetypal endgame of the Dark Side: power at the cost of stability; they're capable of more than the Light Side, but nothing they make lasts... other than the rubble and ruins.
By the time we reach them, they're an utter dead end: relegated to their homeworld, living in the shattered husks of their former magnificence, and barely holding onto civilization after tens of thousands of years of near-feral barbarism. Yeah, they have their temple, but that temple's not much; just a vestige of their technological past. The Star Forge was their only true strength, and the only real avenue by which they might've returned to power, but if it was in them to do that, they would've done it in the intervening 30 thousand years; Only Revan and Malak had the will to actually use it for its intended purpose, and since canonically it's in this murky land of possibly having been destroyed, the one potential means by which they could've been anything other than a backwater's backwater of a planet is gone.
Basically, they've completed their destiny and gotten their just deserts, and a handful of pacifist revolutionaries isn't enough to change the past or alter their course; they'll just continue to decay and diminish until they go extinct.
@@LabTech41 even tuskens didnt go extinct despite they always fight outsiders how can rakata go extinct in their isolated homeworld? not only surface but also underwater
@@overpredor3412 The Rakata are not the Tuskens.
@@LabTech41 did I say rakata are tuskens lol but they are more isolated than tusken and if someone extinct tuskens would be first
@@overpredor3412 You are judging two separate species, on two separate worlds, who haven't been in contact with one another in at least thirty thousand years, by the same standard.
The two have almost nothing in common, other than that one race was formerly the slave of another... that's it.
What happens to either in the final analysis is unrelated.
This account is going to explode when the kotor remake comes out
Hopefully in a good way (Voom) and not a bad way (Boom).
It better not crash.
If
Well... ahem, about that
big if
I really want a swtor expansion where we explore the rishi maze, iicr at the end of the inquisitor storyline one of the options you pick, you get a mail that says something about there being a signal coming from the maze and them discovering colonies of the Sith species being there as well as other sentient beings being in the maze which includes the Rakata.
That was retconned as a prelude to Knights of the Fallen Empire already.
The sith warrior also as a vision concerning the rishi maze at the start of shadow of revan, and darth vvowrawn goes there to investigate some things about the emperor, but it was most likely retconned
There is a surviving sith colony on Tund.
If my memory is correct, Kamino was also around the area of Rishi maze, this could also be an opportunity to see what Kaminoan society looks like 3000+ years ago before the prequels.
I wish SWTOR made Rakata a playable race.
So there is a little talked about mystery I would love to see you dive into. You see in SWTOR each class had a small class mission on Rishi (the final bit of such content in the game). In the Sith inquisitor's you are contacted by an imperial Moff who sends you to meet a Sith Researcher. This Sith researcher was posted 30 years prior during the great galactic war in order to contact the inhabitants of the Rishi Maze. He received signals back but the language used words from 3 other languages in it. Ancient Sith, Gree, And Rakatan. These signals told him to modify his arrays and that they would be sent a boon. Specifically the boon was for the Sith Inquisitor. Each array he went to deaged him a year.
The rakata are an essential part of kotor. If it were the sith who made the star forge, it would’ve felt like another Star Wars monomyth, copying a new hope. With it we get a new , complex race that shows what could eventually happen to the sith. It’s little bits like the rakata that made Legends so great
It would be dope if the Rakata made a return in one of the shows or movies in star wars.
Great video again!
I'm familiar with the story about Rakatans but seeing that people are still interested in lore of this game nowdays brings me some kind of nostalgic hapiness
Doesnt the force always seek balance? Im pretty sure the force just said “aight ima head out” and left the rakatans
Yeah, the force is kind of an asshole like that. Nobody stays at the top for long. If the force is female like Disney loves to remind us at every opportunity, then the force is a huge bitch of a female!
I would love a whole movie trilogy about the return of the Rakata. If they got their force sensitivity back, they'd be a scarier villain than the Sith!
I disagree. The Rakata were extremely cruel, sure, but many sith orders were equally so.
The Rakata dominated because they were almost all force sensitive and had superior technology to all other species. Modern Star wars tech is far superior to ancient Rakatan tech by now, and their cruelty wouldn't be anything new.
They'd be a threat sure, and a cool one at that, but not as big a threat as they once were. Especially not without the star forge and the gateways the Gree (kree?? Kwa?) Had built that allowed for instant teleportation between force strong worlds
@@alexanderrahl7034 erm the rakatan tech at thier height was all powered by the dark side of the force.
@@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 thats correct
And most star wars tech is based off the reverse engineering of rakatan tech. But it doesn't make it better now
This stuff is my favorite!!! I'm glad someone else has some love for the infinite empire
The Rakatan could come back to take revenge.
On who? They got no one to blame for their fall but themselves and a force negating plague
Rakatan Storyteller: ah these were the glory when we had 500 worlds under us with god like power and we made the trees on that Wookie planet go big and
The dude listening: yeah I think you had enough spice for today and why just 500 worlds?
Rakata: conquering planets is hard
The dude: fair enough
I don't get why so many people get hing up on the 500 worlds. Many ancient civilizations in reality used specific numbers to represent "uncountable".
@@Azaghal1988 correct, and sometimes those numbers weren't even that big
Love the thumbnail!
Episode IX should have been about finding a newly reactivated Star Forge instead of an unexplained mystery fleet of Exegol.
That should've been part of Episode 9
Nah I dont want disney to screw rakatan lore
The KoTOR era truly was peak SW.
wait, they BUILT MORE STAR FORGES? what a missd opportunity damn...
In swtor there's a mission where you fight revan on a Rakatan space station called the factory or something like that, I think that's the small Star Forge
You mean the foundry?
there is just one flashpoint on rakata prime in SWTOR its sad they were not more active, would love to take Talos Drellik there and explore...
Awesome video as always. This might be the video that I have enjoyed the most as I had no idea about what happened to the Rakata after KOTOR. I just assumed the remaining species lived out their days on Rakata Prime until they died out. Just watching these videos makes me even more excited for the remake. Keep up the great work.
I like the part of the video that talks about new iterations of selkath and wookies. One other group of slaves the Rakata might have brought with them are pre-desert tuskens. Would be an amazing reveal at what they look/looked like. Maybe have a tusken slave somehow return to tattoine and unite the tusken tribes.
Cool idea but the modern tusken raiders devolved much like hg wells time machina story. They became 2 seperate species neither of which would be immediately recognizable so even if a population of original tusken people remained the sand people would just see them as another outsider
Interesting. I had no idea that Rakatans survived in the Unknown Regions, but it makes sense.
Great video!
Like you I love me some Rakatans!
And, i have another video idea:
How about you talk about the legacy of the rakata and every place where their technology ended up and how it was used and destroyed?
I think that would make for an interesting video.
Second video idea:
Can you please make a video about the history of the Massassi?
I think that they are also super interesting and I have never seen a video about them before.
Again, cool video, and keep up the fantastic work!!
Love this !
Fantastic, amazing and insightful video my friend. It's too bad the Rakatan people disappeared into obscurity but if they had been around during the time of Palpatine's Galactic Empire then he would have enslaved them
I love this channel! You do an amazing job man. One thing I've always been curious about in kotor is the asteroid creature canderous talks about during his war stories did we ever find out what that was?
5:37 TIL Revan in KOTOR 1 and your character in SWTOR basically accelerate the eventual extinction of Rakatans from Rakatan Prime.
More Rakata I suprise to be sure but a welcome one
Theory: what if it was the force itself that stripped the Rakata of their force sensitivity, not a virus etc.
I think it's confirmed in some way.
this is what I have never liked about the rakata story. Firstly if the force is intertwined with living things how could a virus take away the force? Sounds silly to me personally and the second one about the force itself stripping them of their ability to use it. This is even worse in my eyes. If the force can choose to strip away ones ability to use the force then why didnt the force do so for the sith or jedi? there was no need for the chosen one if the force can just be like oh palpy you too evil and strong im not letting you use the force anymore.
Let's just say the Force is like an eccentric yet all too brutal when offended deity and be done with it.
@@hfjtrytry9216 well deathsticks and other drugs can remove force sensibility over time.but i guess the virus wouldn't remove the connection, just make them Impossible to properly use it.
The force was getting tired of the rakatan clowns camping the other species to prevent them from evolving.
Cheers
Wouldn’t it be cool if they were brought into cannon by like destroying the Zeppo from fallen order?
As I recall they were referenced in the new Canon a couple times
@@tacticalpossum7090 They were, in a couple of the new canon's galactic maps, Rakata Prime appears, and in the same place it was in legends, as to what could that mean or what will Disney do with it, only time will tell. I'm hoping the new Tales of The Jedi series that was just announced will touch on the Rakata and that it isn't just an extension to the HIgh Republic crap we've gotten recently.
Thank you
I like the idea of the two tribes abandoning their barbaric brothers and returning to Rakata Prime and kinda just becoming an Ewok like species on their home world, building viligies amongst the ruins of a dead empire
They eventually evolved into the Gungans.
:P
I thought they evolved from Gungans?
They look nothing like Gungans.
They evolved from them, and they possibly devolved into them. Poetry.
@@timonsolus they kinda do. Just like snakes look like lizards without legs or ostriches and cassowaries look like velociraptors without teeth
The Flesh Raiders of Tython, from The Old Republic MMO, supposedly are descended from the Rakata.
Ya the archipelago has always interested me. I found it strange it has had such little impact. The true masters of Mechu-deru in the universe and no jedi or sith ever went to learn under them?
As far as Rakatans losing their Force connection and their technology,maybe they could build it, just not turn it on. But The Sith could, no? Maybe a collaboration story?
I'd like a story on the resurgence of the Kwa or even the Celestials.
"It's hard to make these movies because there wasn't much source material out there to use"
I skipped a lot of the dialogue in kotor but the rakatans had me hooked. Super great game 🤙
Kicked their asses, though 😂
I was under the impression that the Fleshraiders of Tython were devolved/mutated Rakata
They are. Look at swtor wiki
Yes they are, they were mutated shock troops that were used by the Rakata. But the question is, are the Mon Calamari a mutated type of Rakata meant for under water conquest?
@@asaenvolk oooo!
I'm glad my storyline of my Rakata will not be challenged easily
You know, since the Rakatan use of the Force was stripped from them by a virus, it would be interesting to know if Plagueis pondered about this and possibly wrote some scientific hypotheses on the phenomenon. If he could interact with this Ruthic and exchange data (Sith ambitions aside of course) it would be fascinating to see what this reveals about the nature of Force Sensitives, and the Force itself.
Isn't it strongly hinted at that the "virus" which destroyed their force sensitivity was actually just the star forge draining them, in theory they would have recovered force sensitivity after the destruction of the star forge
@@ApotheNZ I've never heard that idea anywhere, but I'd doubt that to be the case. If the SF requires the Force (the Dark Side) in order to use it, it would be counter-productive to strip its users of their Force-sensitivity. It's more likely to sap a being's general vitality/life energy like with most intensive Dark Side users.
One of the best races in Star Wars, tbr if the black rakata would’ve won we would still be hearing about them
Running a Star Wars RPG during this time period, the Rakata is something I always planned to expand on.
If I wanted to read about the events and characters in these KOTOR games, are there any books in particular for this?
Thats the issue :( I wish there were more material on it...as the EU continued we were slowly getting some more info but Disney killed it
@@Kolonol1 : There’s only the one book, ‘Revan’. But that was written as a lead-in to the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO, so I take it with a pinch of salt.
However, there’s also an excellent comic series called Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, which is a prequel to KOTOR I. It’s set at the start of the Mandalorian Wars, although that’s not the main focus of the story, and Revan is only a very minor character. The first part of the series is set on the planet of Taris.
The comics are available from Dark Horse Comics, and can be purchased in 3 Omnibus editions, which is easier than buying the 56 separate comics. I highly recommend them.
What Tim Smith said.
Also, the Dawn of the Jedi comics and the Tales of the Jedi comics set before. The former is now on Epic Collection omnibus form, but the latter is still not complete for the time being.
Also, if you want, there's the Darth Bane trilogy and maybe even the Jedi vs. Sith comics.
I personally never dug the design of Rakata to match their savage reputation. Like, they have these weak, little eyestalks. A glaring weakness for a warrior race. Can't be intimidated by that.
Absolutely. Almost as much of a weakness as a Twi’lek’s brain tails. Doesn’t make evolutionary sense.
But on the other hand, the Rakatans were not just warriors, but force users as well. That more than makes up for their vulnerable eye stalks.
Apparently, they were swole beings (gods, why am I saying this?) back in the past.
They had warrior lower cast thats are now called Fleshraiders(you can found them in swtor Tython)
Really interesting, I thought I already knew a lot about the Ratakans, and I learned a lot more, thanks. Let me add some informations/theories.
It's not often but sometimes we can see an evolution in Star Wars, I remember reading a book or a comic book where we learned that Gree had regressed to a wild stage, or evolved to be closer to nature (as opposed to a civilization). So it is also possible for some Ratakans. Their mastery of the force is relatively suddenly diminished, many of them are stuck where they were. And in 25000 years, a genetic evolution can take place. Especially in case of long isolation coupled with inbreeding. I had a theory while playing Star Wars The Old Republic that at least two species presented were related to the Ratakan: the Flesh Raiders Canibales of Thyton, and the Ongrees.
I was right about the Flesh Raiders ! After checking while writing this post, it is canon, they are indeed a sub-race of mutant Ratakans.
Concerning the Ongrees, there is also a resemblance, (eyes spread from the skull on the side and long skull upwards). And there is not only that: I can't remember how or where, but on Nar Shadda they help to keep a kind of energy source, a star forge seed. This mission was given to them by Revan (wink!). Moreover in clone war a jedi of this race is visible in the movie, they would be originating from Skustell in the Skustell Cluster (thanks wikia !).
So this is just my theory: but it could mean that they are a deviant branch of the Ratakans, who chose peace and that the force would have forgiven them.
Or it could be another species entirely, and I see only a simple evolutionary convergence. What do you think ?
Interesting theory...
i love fallen ancient empires
"Now, I'm not going to explain what happens in the game. If you're watching this video, then I assume you've played KOTOR..."
Uuuuh yeah... like 19 years ago... A quick refresher wouldn't be bad :P
I’ve been writing a fan fiction about a piece of the Star forge imbedding itself on a lonely planet! KOTOR is some of the best SW.
I'd read that!! Or on a metal rich asteroid belt somewhere.
Can never decide who I like more Rakatan's or the Vong
How humans are slaves of builders in kotor ancient droid says you are not slave species neither builders
I'm curious whether the zeffo are the new cannon rakatta, if so I'm sure we'll find out more about what happened to them soon
Doubtful the Zeffo appeared more in balance with the force the Rakatan were more inclined towards the darkside
If they are its gonna be bad. The zeffo are not nearly as interesting as the rakata.
Well Rekatta Prime is on the cannon map in the Unknown Regions.
hehehehhee
Makatak.... Mac Attack...
now I want a Big Mac
“I guess nobody really ever gets their stuff together, I hope that you had alcohol.”
-Garrus Vakarian
After playing this and being TRAUMATIZED from Disney's Star Wars, this is the calibur of depth every Star Wars story should strive to
Planet Mac Attack, eh? Sounds like a planet I want to visit.
the last member of there species is suppose to make a debut in the ahsoka tv series :D if my sources are correct. I also would like to add thhat the supposed survivor is force sensitive ...
One of them shows up in Attack of the Clones in the Colosseum scene with all the Jedi
I understand that they were very powerful and dangerous.
But holy shit I can't take them seriously. I mean look at their face.
I really hope they bring the Rakata back into Canon they're so interesting
They're in canon to some extent!
@@100StarWars I mean properly not offhandedly mentioned
Swtor brings them back, but barely. I wouldn't mind if in SWTOR, they are brought back from the Archipelago as renewed Empire.
I've always wonder if it was an offshoot of the Rakatan that made this Aintie Force Virus? But it was only ment to cut off curtain aspects of the Force.
You don't need the Force...you need spell check
Dooku: "how far they have fallen."
what about the flesh radars from Swtor Online Game on Tython, some say the Rakata degraded.
In the Bane trilogy series He went to Rakata Prime and took Revans Holocron and killed the last Rakatan on the planet
your last Rakatan video was 10 days ago not in the same week
I was watching Episode 3 clips just now, and only after watching the movies about 5-6 times did I realize, why did all the clones who personally received the Order 66 command, already address Palpatine as, "my Lord??" O_o
Ever watched the Clone Wars series? There they explain why the clones turned on the jedi so sudently, and why they know darth sidious.
Great video dude, thank you very much.
And also, I'd like all ya'll to keep holding out hope,
Disney will get their heads out of their asses.
Ah the unknown regions, seems to be Star Wars's go to when they need a long wiped out species to return to the galaxy
This is what I don't get- the droid says _"But you are not of the slave species. Neither are you of the Builders. You are like the one who came before."_ and that's Revan, a human specie.
So if humans were neither builders nor slaves, what were humans during the Infinite Empire??
Its crazy to think the galaxy at one point wasn't human centered just shows you humans can be wiped too if they keep playing with the darksides power.
they remind me of the fore runners
I’ve always wondered how hey put their shirt on with their eyes sticking out so much…
:)
Here is one explanation of the "plague" separating rakata from the force: It was their genetic adaptation against their own way of life. Thus incomprehensible to the rakatan way of thinking.
Recall that ancient rakata acquire force by devouring the flesh of force powerful beings, even by cannibalism. You could say midichlorians are their nutrient. But if dog-eat-dog, maybe better lack that quality that gets you killed? Simple natural selection would evolve them. Like I said, this would seem absurd to a rakatan - like warning a human against over-thinking.
surprised you didn't mention there was a jedi rakata in attack of the clones, during the battle geonosis
Because there wasn't one... He was an Ongree.
Soa was the most badass of them imo,the remaining ones turned tribal and lost affinity to the force
Your in luck I expand upon the Rakatan Archipelago’s Story on my Sequel Trilogy
But what if Revan kills the elders and allies with The One? What happens then?
What about that rakatan scientist in the clone wars. Zylow beast episode
The Rakata are the most interesting race in Star Wars history, they are heavily based on Native American legends which speak of an ancient race of Giants who waged war on each other and the native americans, even the details of one sect of the race being Red (haired) and one being Black (haired), and the shape of their heads
I'd like to learn more of the Celestials.
Yeeeah..."too few to maintain their species" sounds more than a little unlikely. To say the least. They also have the records of the history of their people and likely the galaxy. I doubt it magically disappeared.
Kid me thought they where potato’s with eye balls
Hahahaha
Like the Vong, the force stripped them of their access...
So a genuinely interesting, informative, regular video?
Not an April Fools..? Huh.
Congratulations, I played myself, waiting for the "gotcha" moment.
Great Video as always Good Sir!
what the starforge being smaller they could build dozens of starforges
I wonder if the whole Zakuul storyline in SWOTR could've/would've/should've been a revived Rakatan Empire?
Possible!
Bit off topic but I've just realised the possibility that the Rakatan Remnant in the Rakatan Archipelago could have in some way created the Chiss species.
Too many possibilities really to talk about in one comment without much evidence i think it's plausible that the Rakatan remnant could have created the Chiss species.
After all it's not impossible that information or technology surrounding the mother machine could have also been developed in the Rakatan Archipelago given that research on the mother machine had started a while before Belsavis.
It's also known that early Chiss history is widely obscured and that the they have genetic links to humanity however it's not impossible that either the Chiss were based off of humans or that an already established Chiss species descended from humanity would have been modified or altered to some capacity or even recreated.
It also isn't that totally absurd that the Rakata could in some capacity control the Chiss Ascendancy whether they know it or not and either directly control the ruling families or have the Chiss set up as a neutral and never expanding civilisation that is trapped in perpetual paranoia concerning external threats which may have simply been manufactured by the Rakata.
The latter theory would also give way to a possible resurgent Infinite Empire as the Chiss may have simply been established as a Rakatan outpost of sorts in both observing and studying the rest of the known galaxy as well as preventing any information regarding their existence from flowing to the rest of the galaxy.
Thoughts?
They will return one day with Darth JarJar leading their attack after reconnecting them to the force and consume all in their darkness
When Are We Gonna See A Darth Bane Characters Explained Video
There was a Rakatan Jedi in attack of the clones.
Never say never
From I've heard it is Canon that all the technology in star wars is based off what the rakatans left behind on the worlds they abandoned and how the slave races reverse engineered it.
They couldn’t have ALL died out on Rakata Prime though. There is a whole Flashpoint on Star Wars: The Old Republic they takes place on Rakata prime with plenty of Rakatans on the planet that you kill. They are allied with The Revanites I believe.
They did, yes - these were savage remnants of the Black Rakata as I mentioned. They eventually go extinct though.
@@100StarWars interesting!!! Thanks!!! 😁
Collosal reason why they capped at 500... but it's a secret
Where is the rakatans wielding lightsabers from
I usually (not always) do Light Side, so I wipe out the Savage tribe.
They can't have rebuilt their technology nor anything like the Star Forge for the simple reason that all of it requires using the Force, which they can no longer do. Same with mind prisons. That's the whole point. It also rather proves that they are extremely technologically inept as a species.
Which game has all the extra details outside the original KOTOR?
The truth is they tasted really good when covered with butter and the rest is Star Wars history.
Ricotta
Yup. My mind instantly goes to lasagna every time.
There was still rakata under surface of lehon how can they die even if they didnt die weapons of mass destruction and they will eventually come back to surface one day