Why Darth Nihilus is the PERFECT Villain

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  • Darth Nihilus often gets hate for being an 'easy' boss and thus a bad Villain. But in this video, I'm going to explain why being an easy boss makes him the perfect Villain!
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  • @100StarWars
    @100StarWars  2 роки тому +105

    Let me know down below, do you think Nihilus is a good Villain? Or are you of the persuasion that he is a bad one? Also, 1:05 is perfectly visually synced with 'blah, blah blah' and I didn't mean it but it's hilarious to me.

    • @mikeor-
      @mikeor- 2 роки тому +6

      Yes, Darth Nihilus does have more dimension than many others, but I still think Kreia is a better character. Unfortunately, the fact that I played KotOR II only once makes it so that I do not have an attachment to the second game, unlike the first. KotOR itself, to me, is superior to the second game.

    • @ComicalJaclyn
      @ComicalJaclyn 2 роки тому +4

      I am of the belief that Nihilus is overrated by the community, (in terms of strength), but when it comes to writing; I don’t think he’s a bad character. Though I do prefer Kreia and Sion.

    • @Kolonol1
      @Kolonol1 2 роки тому +9

      Darth Nihilus is one of my favorites. And here is the part that I think Everyone misses. Darth Nihilus is easy to beat only to Meetra Surik. No one else can defeat him because he can simply consume him. He is backed up by the entirety of the force as a wound. And ONLY after he tried to consume the Exile. Who is also a wound in the force, did he become weak. If palpatine, or Vitiate, or Vader, or Revan, or anyone else wanted to fight him, he wouldn't need to even draw his blade....he would just consume them. Because he existed as the force.

    • @AndreNitroX
      @AndreNitroX 2 роки тому +1

      Please make a Darth Bane video

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 2 роки тому +1

      The problem with your analysis is that Darth Nilhus actually CAN destroy planets. The point about mental health is that these anxieties and things like that are not, ultimately, capable of having that sort of power over people. It would be much more impactful if he actually couldn’t do any of those things, or if he could then they absolutely should have given him these powers at the end.
      Just because I disagree with you, and that I think they really should have made him more powerful, doesn’t mean I have “fundamentally missed the point”.

  • @OptimusNero
    @OptimusNero 2 роки тому +473

    He never spoke a single understandable word and yet, he was much more epic and profound than every Sequel Trilogy's villain combined. That's how awesome he was

    • @danielsuarez3198
      @danielsuarez3198 2 роки тому +27

      Don't forget the fact that he could kill someone by just talking...

    • @KraytDragon1138
      @KraytDragon1138 2 роки тому +33

      Not that the sequels set a very high bar...

    • @FormerGovernmentHuman
      @FormerGovernmentHuman 2 роки тому +31

      It’s what he represented so perfectly. He would consume the universe if left alive, he is almost like a cardinal sin incarnate. The aspect of gluttony. He is a slave to his hunger, far worse than the worst case of opioid addiction and he can’t possibly control it or his power.
      A terrifying state of being the epitome of slavery to the dark side.

    • @BallerDan53
      @BallerDan53 2 роки тому +4

      @@KraytDragon1138 right, lmao. That doesn't say much 😂

    • @historicflame972
      @historicflame972 2 роки тому +3

      Not a single understandable word if you don't understand minecraft enchantment table*

  • @lordnihilus3198
    @lordnihilus3198 2 роки тому +271

    Darth Nihilus is the litteral drug addict of the force. He drained a life out of one person, and all his pain was gone. Yet the pain returned even worse than before, and he wanted to feel it again. Eventually, he held all power, yet his hunger could not be satisfied. Darth Nihilus is easily one of if not the most tragic character in Star Wars, imagine the fact that the energy of an entire planet is not able to sustain your pain.

    • @lordnihilus3198
      @lordnihilus3198 2 роки тому +7

      @Fiky yeah 100% Star Wars is the best

    • @mitchellalexander9162
      @mitchellalexander9162 Рік тому +20

      The Lord of Hunger is a just as much of a shackle of enslavement, as much as it is a title to be feared.

    • @astroboy6515
      @astroboy6515 Рік тому +12

      That is one idea I have had as well. Especially given how addiction hollows a person's mind, both literally and metaphorically, and Nihilus slowly consumed himself as he pursued his addiction until only it remained.
      His addiction killed him and haunted his death robes, killing everyone else. Jesus

    • @cdeschrevel5341
      @cdeschrevel5341 Рік тому +3

      I had my small problems with some chemicals back in the day but none really fcked me totally. But apart from the obvious reference I have the idea that it stretches out to the existential nihilism as a bad example of what happens if logic stays logic but you understanding very well that you will die if you follow this path in your mind

    • @LoganSewell83
      @LoganSewell83 Рік тому +3

      Did you forget the Jedi Council? When Kreia numbed them from the Force the entire Council dropped dead. Cold turkey is very dangerous.

  • @discombobulatedecho6025
    @discombobulatedecho6025 2 роки тому +431

    Me as an adult: “Wow this is a well-written character that truly gets us to understand the consequences of what the Dark Side is and poses a juxtaposition to the player’s choices and is holds a mirror to one’s actions. Truly a Shakespearean work of art.”
    Me as a kid: “Haha I like the Spooky Sith man”
    Also me as an adult: “Hehehe I like spooky Sith man”

    • @Bearical
      @Bearical 2 роки тому +8

      black man cool

    • @gabrielandjavierpinales3689
      @gabrielandjavierpinales3689 2 роки тому +11

      As kids we found him cool . Even if he's terrifying.

    • @theobell2002
      @theobell2002 2 роки тому

      "Truly a Shakespearean work of art."
      You sound like a reddit atheist who's sniffing his own farts on the regular. lmao

    • @Reaper_Rapi
      @Reaper_Rapi 11 місяців тому

      It's funny how nihilist is literally nothing but a floating mask and a floating cloak

    • @shyper17
      @shyper17 8 місяців тому +6

      I liked Nihilus before I actually played KOTOR lmao.

  • @cybertramon0012
    @cybertramon0012 2 роки тому +63

    The villains of Kotor 2 (mainly Nihilus and Sion) always felt like a great example of the downsides of the Dark Side. Both had incredible powers thanks to the Dark Side of the Force. Sion was practically immortal, always coming back after being killed; while Nihilus is pretty much proof that something like the Death Star is nothing compared to the power of the Force. But they both also had major problems. Sion was in constant pain from his injuries. He was only alive because he held onto his hate. Against a female Exile, he needed to kill them because he felt love for them, and that love threatened his ability to keep on living. He had eternal life, at the cost of not actually being alive. And Nihilus was consumed by his hunger for the Force. He was pretty much a slave to his own power, with no greater ambitions than to kill everything. It wasn't even a question of if Nihilus would die, only how much would he consume before then.

    • @Reaper_Rapi
      @Reaper_Rapi 11 місяців тому +2

      So basically the Darkside leads to depression

    • @realhasan121
      @realhasan121 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Reaper_Rapiwith cool powers that could kill you

  • @DarkLOREDash
    @DarkLOREDash 2 роки тому +93

    I always think of Nihilus as a terrifying precursor to the supposedly even MORE POWERFUL Sith Lords promised for the unmade KOTOR 3. Can you even imagine?

    • @Kolonol1
      @Kolonol1 2 роки тому +14

      That's a good point about it too. Kotor 3 would have been what SWTOR is only in a single game with a much better ending to the whole thing

    • @shaydowsith348
      @shaydowsith348 2 роки тому

      Well, vitiate is damn powerful

    • @historicflame972
      @historicflame972 2 роки тому +10

      Instead we got the british

    • @Kolonol1
      @Kolonol1 2 роки тому

      @@shaydowsith348 he is consume a planet powerful but is he consuming the Galaxy powerful? Lol

    • @NumbingDisasterAnon
      @NumbingDisasterAnon Рік тому +7

      I wanted to see what lies at the edge of the unexplored regions, what utter horrors lie in wait for Revan and the Exile and whatever party members we'd find out there

  • @davidbarlow5272
    @davidbarlow5272 2 роки тому +70

    They were all good. They each reflected a part of the Exile. The pain she went thru and had to hold her self together. The burn hunger she felt after her loss of the force. Her betrayal at the hands of the Jedi which offered no help in her recovery but yet exiled her. when you think about it this is a story of drug abuse.

  • @infernonigh0
    @infernonigh0 2 роки тому +48

    The writing in KOTOR2 just blows my mind, what a story. We're lucky to have had this gem as a part of our childhoods.

    • @mattcoyle1620
      @mattcoyle1620 2 роки тому +2

      I've heard hype that people want Revan in NuCanon. I'd rather have Kreia and Nihilus.

    • @infernonigh0
      @infernonigh0 Рік тому

      @@mattcoyle1620 Awesome idea.. imagine how epic the films would be, if Disney just listened to the fans!

  • @kotorevan313
    @kotorevan313 2 роки тому +81

    You could also make this case with Darth Sion as well. He’s hyped up to be this incredibly powerful villain who bathes in pain and uses it to its fullest extent to keep him alive and constantly regenerate…. However, he’s not that difficult to beat when you get to Malachor.
    I think the main reason Sion and Nihilus aren’t as hard to beat is because Kreia set them up that way. They not only betrayed her but were also seen as failures who lost sight of what Kreia tried to teach.
    Remember, Kreia sent Nihilus to Telos knowing full well there were no Force Users there to consume. She also knew Meetra would be far too powerful for Sion to beat away from Korriban.

    • @elwarofficial
      @elwarofficial Рік тому +4

      But he at least cant die and you have to break his will - the first time he kept reviving you know you wondered if you were doing something wrong

    • @elwarofficial
      @elwarofficial Рік тому +3

      The Scion being not powerful if far from Korriban thing is tough when Malachor has arguably more dark side energy

    • @wongtongsoup9534
      @wongtongsoup9534 Рік тому +4

      It was more than just being sent to Telos that killed him. What truly weakened him to the point of being killable is that he attempted to use his power on you. The Jedi Exile is a wound in the force just like Nihilus and Sion. You can't drain force energy from a wound it's like trying to drain something from nothing. The exertion he used in attempting to consume you combined with the fact that there wasn't a large group of force users to feast upon on Telos's surface is what defeats him. I like the ideas 100% Star Wars is trying to convey but it's not the fact that you have healed from your journey that makes it so Nihilus's power doesn't affect you. It is your nature in of itself as a wound in the force not a journey of healed trauma. Your journey in healing your trauma is what really enables you to understand Sion and to convince him to let go of his twisted form of life and power and to finally rest. So he's right in terms of Sion but not right in terms of Nihilus. Nihilus doesn't give a fuck if you've healed from your trauma or not if you have a connection to the force that's what matters and your damaged connection to the force is his undoing. Hope this info helped! Cheers.

    • @DBArtsCreators
      @DBArtsCreators Рік тому

      It is interesting that for some reason Sion is supposedly stronger on Korriban than Malachor.

    • @matiasvonbischhoffshausen1307
      @matiasvonbischhoffshausen1307 5 місяців тому

      ​​​@@wongtongsoup9534Sion wasn't a wound in the force. His ability to regenerate constantly and his immortality cane from the hatred he had. There is also a cut scene where the Lord of Pain confronted the Lord of Hunger, where Nihilus fed from Sion and his team without any problem, and Sion came back to life after that.
      Good point, anyway.

  • @existentialselkath1264
    @existentialselkath1264 2 роки тому +81

    I think the implication that the exile (being a wound in the force) is the only person who renders nihilus' powers (feeding on the force) useless is pretty easy to miss.
    A lot of blind playthroughs I've seen seem to think that the player beats nihilus simply because they're the player, which comes across as obviously pretty bad writing.

    • @Kolonol1
      @Kolonol1 2 роки тому +12

      I think so far you have been the only other person I've run into who understands this.

    • @MetalicNightmare
      @MetalicNightmare 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly! But everybody talks about nihilus like hes some useless idiot that only spams force drain, and act like his power can be countered by people who are not wounds in the force. Such an underrated character

    • @tgs5725
      @tgs5725 2 роки тому +1

      I could be an idiot... but I've played through KOTOR 2 roughly 5-6 times and never knew that. I thought I beat him because I had ultimately become more powerful than him. Damn it now I have to go play it again!

    • @Drave_Jr.
      @Drave_Jr. 2 роки тому +5

      @@tgs5725 Yeah, you beat him with two wounds in the force, I think Visas is close enough in the trauma to have resistance, and a Mandalorian. He absorbs the Force, at a time where the Force is the main weapon of the Jedi. Your crew is uniquely suited to beat him.

    • @tgs5725
      @tgs5725 2 роки тому +2

      @@Drave_Jr. that's pretty bad ass. That adds a new element to the story I didn't know.

  • @the_exile8293
    @the_exile8293 2 роки тому +19

    I love that interpretation of Darth Nihilus! I always found that character intriguing because of that boss fight, because of how the game present it to you. For me it was to humanize the character and show what the dark side could do on a broken man. but the way you present it with the themes of the games makes total sense. And I love it

  • @JoeFanik
    @JoeFanik 5 місяців тому +5

    It’d be cool if within the Old Republic era there was a cult that worshipped Nihilus. Whenever a follower is deemed “worthy” enough, they would be fed to Nihilus under the guise that it’s a great honor

  • @DrinkingMud
    @DrinkingMud 2 роки тому +22

    I really like this take, I always liked nihilus, it never bothered me that the boss fight was easy, because he always worked well as the ominous, looming threat. But I never considered him as a metaphor for mental health struggles.
    Its what makes KOTOR 2 so amazing honestly, so many different ways to interpret the game and its message

  • @igorschiavo8883
    @igorschiavo8883 2 роки тому +10

    All of KotOR II’s main villains are awesome, it’s great how they are so many things at once. Reflections of the Jedi Exile, representations of the classical archetypes of horror(zombie, witch and ghost/vampire), representations of characteristics of the dark side and so much more. Also great how each is a very different kind of villain. Atris is also incredible, even though she is less prominent in the game.

  • @lewok4834
    @lewok4834 2 роки тому +25

    I feel like Meetra's and Darth Nihilus' fight being so easy makes sense for the 2 of them. In a way they are kind of like opposites too. Meetra is a being a flesh and has a physical body living without the force while Nihilus, is a mask and a robe forges to him with the force and he needs to consume the life force of people and jedi to be able to live. His easy defeat makes sense in ever way - Visas disconnecting her connection through the force to weaken Nihilus weakens him because she is almost like a portable, small fuel source for him of the force - getting Nihilus to try and consume the force out of you weakens him because there is nothing for him to consume, and thus weakens himself by wasting his energy.

  • @everythingmanny
    @everythingmanny 3 місяці тому +3

    Dude I came here to watch some cool Star Wars lore but you breaking down mental health and saying to take it step by step to heal . Man that touched me bro great video thats deeper than the subject matter ❤️ thanks

  • @twistedvtuber9894
    @twistedvtuber9894 2 роки тому +12

    The issue I have with Nihilus is that he's barely in the game in comparison to his 2 counterparts, with Scion being a constant threat throughout the story, and Kreia being... well Kreia... While Nihilus is just kinda in the background until it's time for him to die. They could have had moments where he consumes planets that you visit, maybe even have you witness it first hand and have to escape the dying world. In the state of the game, he kinda just exists, and isn't really part of the story

  • @siggelsson891
    @siggelsson891 2 роки тому +8

    Great video! I've always been critical against Nihilus in K2 for the exact reasons you mentioned. But this really made me think about it!

    • @siggelsson891
      @siggelsson891 2 роки тому +1

      First I thought K1 was better then K2. I think K2 needs a careful playthrough to even understand the story. I basically rushed the first time I played it, then I replayed the game with TSLRCM and now I think K2 i superior to K1 without a thought

  • @notevines
    @notevines 2 роки тому +4

    Nihilus has always been one of my favourite Sith, his story is what drew me in. His destructive power and insatiable hunger, the fact when he did speak, his veery speech could cause pain and death, honestly is terrifying to me. For a fictional character to scare me, it always makes them a favourite of mine (like The Joker)

  • @BorealGames
    @BorealGames 2 роки тому +12

    This is a great explanation of Nihilus, as someone who's actively dealing with trauma the "hole" you feel is indescribable. This game always held a special place in my heart due to the comparable feelings of some of it's characters .

  • @matthewtansey2040
    @matthewtansey2040 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful take on more meaning to seemingly simple themes. This is awesome and much appreciated! 😎👏🏽

  • @AAhmou
    @AAhmou 3 місяці тому +1

    I also like the detail that the past literally catches up with the exile in the form of a Sith infested Republic Cruiser.

  • @Kyfas7
    @Kyfas7 2 роки тому +7

    I admit when I was younger I was like that, thinking that Nihilus was a bit anticlimactic. Well maybe I was a bit too young to understand a lot of the game when I first played it. It took me replaying in many years latter and watching your videos (not this one, some older ones) to finally understand and appreciate this character.

  • @ianhlavac3495
    @ianhlavac3495 2 роки тому +1

    I love your videos. KotOR II is my favorite video game and I’ve beaten it dozens of times. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say about the game and it’s characters. Keep up the good work!

  • @thestanleys3657
    @thestanleys3657 2 роки тому +11

    "the darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"-Palps
    Nihilus is a dark mirror of the jedi exile

  • @matthewtansey2040
    @matthewtansey2040 2 роки тому

    Needed a second comment, the deeper I get, the more I rewatch the better the allegories are!
    This is such great food for thought, thank you again and this is really impressive analysis. Your channel kicks ass!

  • @SuperXero89
    @SuperXero89 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly it's mostly because he shows up at the beginning of the game, disappears for the entire thing, and then he pops up again at the end and you murder him in two hits.

  • @levipetersen1048
    @levipetersen1048 2 роки тому +2

    Darth Nihilus was always my favorite Sith Lord. And now you've added layers and depth to that!

  • @jeditempleguardcaptain7519
    @jeditempleguardcaptain7519 2 роки тому +4

    Nihilus will always be my favorite member of The SITH Triumvirate based solely on the spine tingling I get when I hear visas and traya telling his story

  • @joshpeck9266
    @joshpeck9266 2 роки тому +1

    Wow fascinating idea! I’ve been dealing with a lot of anxiety and cPTSD and this rings soooo true.
    I didn’t really have these issues (from the cPTSD) perspectives when I played the game so looking back it’s so true.

  • @astroboy6515
    @astroboy6515 Рік тому +4

    I think Nihilus is a fantastic villain!
    Maybe anticlimactic, but ultimately haunting and fascinating.
    I think he's a living personification of death - perhaps the closest thing star wars will ever have to a demon or malignant force entity.
    We don't know who Nihilus used to be, and we dont need to. He's like the Joker, he could have been anyone, from any walk of life.
    He was a human, probably force sensitive, who survived an entire world being killed at once. Death involves many godawful emotions, but what represents it best perhaps is the lack of emotion itself. Emptiness in a place you werent even paying attention to. Through the force, you can feel every life a person touched, and the resulting hollowing out of these lives upon death.
    To feel all of this at once, may imply something worse than a person burying themselves in an unhealthy coping mechanism of the dark side.
    I think, Nihilus is an environmental phenomenon.
    If you kill a planet, it might be safer to finish the job with a Death Star. Otherwise the Force itself may collapse into a singularity of Death, repeating itself wherever it can. And I think said singularity consumed whoever Nihilus was years ago.
    There is no consciousness there, his voice is just his own echo from a ghost. Death itself became sentient and self-perpetuating through Nihilus.
    Or something, idk

  • @jamiethomas3768
    @jamiethomas3768 10 місяців тому +1

    Darth Nihilus has ALWAYS scared me with his dark Phantom Of The Opera vibes. And he makes a perfect villain🦹‍♀️for my Gem💎Titans sagas series.

  • @jonathanwood2446
    @jonathanwood2446 Рік тому

    my favourite star wars channel, keep it up!

  • @JerryMeehanJr
    @JerryMeehanJr Рік тому +1

    God damn you explaining trauma is more on point than my therapist lol

  • @mazur80
    @mazur80 2 роки тому

    Very interesting take and I concur. Great channel mate, keep it up :)

  • @Rashomon00
    @Rashomon00 2 роки тому

    Just got into your channel and I love it. Keep up the excellent work, brother!

  • @JoshJeem
    @JoshJeem 2 місяці тому

    I played the game so many years back and loved it. Your analysis of Nihilus is better than I thought myself. Good job. KOTOR 2 was such a good game for mature audiences.

  • @Rewwgh
    @Rewwgh 2 роки тому +5

    Nihilus is fine, always been alright in my books. Nothing exciting but not terrible either. I enjoyed your take regardless. Cheers!

  • @CabyBaby
    @CabyBaby 2 роки тому +3

    I already loved Darth Nihilus but this video just made me love him even more, if anyone doesn’t know he was literally created by the dark side after a planet malachor v was destroyed by a very unconventional and deadly weapon, he’s “a wound in the force” a living reminder that when we do terrible things, terrible things happen, and sometimes when terrible things happen, we can become like Nihilus if we so choose, inflicting our suffering unto everyone else, but it will only end in pain…

  • @slave2truth4freedom
    @slave2truth4freedom Рік тому

    Brilliant! Well done.

  • @Furvus_Mortem
    @Furvus_Mortem 2 роки тому

    I remember thinking and pondering alot of these concepts. The only thing I could think to articulate my thoughts were "they are relatable". You have done such a better job creating an argument that I couldn't think to put into words. Well done. :)

  • @h1ko393
    @h1ko393 2 роки тому +1

    This was a big brain conclusion. Loved it.

  • @andreiyy
    @andreiyy 2 роки тому +1

    very on point, good job

  • @peterparker1683
    @peterparker1683 2 роки тому +2

    I really wish Nihilus had more screen time. He’s my favorite Sith Lord of all time. I used to be scared of him when I was a kid and the only other Sith that was able to scare me was an unmasked Darth Vader

  • @ultralevixz5912
    @ultralevixz5912 2 роки тому +3

    Hes probably my 2nd fav antagonist after Kreia and my 3rd fav character after Kreia and Revan

  • @TriMarkC
    @TriMarkC 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty deep points!! Your pain & trauma, the thing that most people fear and can’t imagine being or living with, that may even make you suicidal… those things are what make you unique. And if you can see that spark is actually powerful, then it can be the engine that you can hold on to and build yourself fully. Overcome it, overcome the barriers that say you can’t… and then you can do ANYTHING!! Even beat the ultimate villain!

  • @greysonjones5429
    @greysonjones5429 2 роки тому +2

    I just finished the two KOTOR games but I've been following your channel for a while. I was not expecting them to be as good as they were, but it was really fun. I really enjoyed KOTOR II despite its flaws, and I agree with you, I think that all of the villains in KOTOR are perfect as they are.

  • @Kolonol1
    @Kolonol1 2 роки тому +2

    I would really like to see a series. A series where you play through knights of the Old Republic one and two. And give us your narrative through the whole thing. You explaining what you think this means what is so great about this part what is so bad about this part what you think this should mean when it doesn't, what you think they got right what you think they got wrong. I would love to see a series like this from you, and I think it would add an entire new layer to the game for me.

  • @chrischin_94
    @chrischin_94 2 роки тому

    I beat him about an hour before you uploaded this, great timing!

  • @Despo97
    @Despo97 2 роки тому

    I loved this video. This is exactly why star wars is great. It's so relatable to us and our own feelings and experiences in life even though it's a galaxy far far away.

  • @the_milkgod9134
    @the_milkgod9134 2 роки тому +1

    What great timing the day after I finished the game. Nihilus is a very interesting villain

  • @MrMctuck
    @MrMctuck 2 роки тому +3

    That shot in 10:40 seems to be a Death Star reference in some way, I don't know if it was intentional but a nice touch by Obsidian regardless

  • @OutcastWriter31
    @OutcastWriter31 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, what a great video, what great insight on a mysterious character. Great job. I personally always liked Nihilus, he fits his role very well, and I can see where people felt he was underwhelming but I don't personally feel that way. I also see why you think he is the perfect villain, and I certainly think he is closer to perfect than bad or mediocre. But as some other commenters have done better at pointing out, I do feel a little more delving into the character should have been done to truly make Nihilus live up to his full potential, to fully convey the story/theme you so eloquently pointed out. Probably just another casualty of the shortened development cycle...oh what could have been.

  • @dackpowell4415
    @dackpowell4415 2 роки тому

    I never heard this argument about the themes of Nihilus before, I love it. Thank you, very well said.

  • @icenhorn4744
    @icenhorn4744 Рік тому

    Im new to this channel, but not to this game. I playe it when it came out and i didnt understand Darth Nihilus at all, I didnt think he was bad, but he wasnt what i was expecting... some years later, life changes as we know. i find myself a broken man, physicaly and at one point mentaly. (military injuries and what not... >.

  • @pauliverson3956
    @pauliverson3956 2 роки тому

    See this is why I’m a subscriber. We are both of like minds, philosophical and never taking what we see at face value

  • @jamesc8523
    @jamesc8523 Рік тому +1

    He's such a strong lore Sith and thematically a great dark vision of your future, it's mostly a case of being mechanically let down, where most of his lore is locked behind Visa and Kreia checks so beyond that to many players he's just a cool mask that appears in some cutscenes and ate all the Jedi off-screen.

  • @jedirayden
    @jedirayden Рік тому +2

    As an enemy in the boss fight, he's easy to beat, and the fight itself is forgettable. BUT as a character, Nihilus is a terrifying villain. I've never forgotten how in awe of him I was, on my first playthrough.

  • @onestupidboi9320
    @onestupidboi9320 Рік тому +3

    I've heard people say that he is empty and hollow and has little character, and my response is always "exactly"

  • @thirdcoastfirebird
    @thirdcoastfirebird 2 роки тому

    You are right about this. I have always loved this game, and all of this makes sense.

  • @danielsyhre1470
    @danielsyhre1470 2 роки тому

    Brilliant!

  • @wraith2939
    @wraith2939 2 роки тому

    I suffered a depression last year. And you described better than i could. The Best thing to do is give it time. Fight back slowly and with little good actions. And by stop blaming yourself for what’s happening. Or in Meetra’s case, forgiving yourself

  • @LJ-qq8lx
    @LJ-qq8lx 2 роки тому +1

    I usually make joke comments but this is a great video. for people who suffer with mental health... it's just great. Thanks.

  • @thefortress167
    @thefortress167 2 роки тому +2

    There's a big difference between not liking a character and the character being poorly written.
    The problem with Nihilus is that the symbolism around him is so subtle that most people don't even notice it. He's well written, that much is certain. However people don't pay enough attention to the details to notice. That's why there's been numerous characters throughout the generations that took the general audience years to fully understand the symbolism and characterization of.
    So when people say, "Nihilus is not well written," they haven't thought about it enough.
    But when someone says "I don't like Nihilus," that's a completely acceptable opinion to have. For instance, I don't like Spider-Man. But I can also agree he's well written, he's just not a character I enjoy.
    Anyways. I loved the video. Keep up the good work!

  • @BellXllebMusic
    @BellXllebMusic Рік тому +1

    I love almost every aspect of that game. It's the closest to perfection that any story besides the Bible and Mika Waltari's Mikael Hakim has made me feel

  • @joshuahobson1592
    @joshuahobson1592 8 місяців тому +1

    The Lord of Hunger walked so Palpatine could run

  • @AudioOnslaught
    @AudioOnslaught 3 місяці тому

    Thank You

  • @ramabass9475
    @ramabass9475 2 роки тому +1

    Now I love Darth Nihilus even more.

  • @barkasz6066
    @barkasz6066 2 роки тому +1

    KotOR 2 is a brilliant game. Criminally underrated. Excellent, nuanced, deep characters and story. Bleak yet hopeful. Just wonderful.

  • @moab2935
    @moab2935 Рік тому +2

    one of the reasons i love nihilus as a character is because of the fact that if you choose the darkside route , kriea will be dissepointed and heart broken of the fact that you have become exactly like nihilus , that there is no way to escape from that hunger , and thats why you have utterly and completely failed her . by choosing the lightside route , you show to kriea that its possible to escape form the hunger and not be consumed by it , that it is possible to lose the force , and still be a human , and that , is what kreia wanted to see all along

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 роки тому

    Well said, also meetra surik and visas marr both have ways of counteracting darth nihilus's power.

  • @StarWarsFanatic
    @StarWarsFanatic Рік тому

    You’ve earned my trust

  • @Dominics_Corner
    @Dominics_Corner 2 роки тому +3

    I always thought Nihilus’ character was interesting, he seems to be this ominous, powerful entity rather than a human. The way he speaks and his force abilities are unusual. When I was younger and played KOTOR2, he spooked me.

  • @GrouchyRaccoon
    @GrouchyRaccoon 2 роки тому +1

    Literally anyone other than the Exile would have died facing Nihilus. The reason he became so easy to kill is because he realised he couldn't feed on the Exile, and it crippled him.

  • @lunabelle01
    @lunabelle01 2 роки тому

    I was just at a con today. The 501st leader I spoke to is working on a Darth Nilhilus outfit for many of the same reasons you pointed out!

  • @CoolPandaTheMovieNerd
    @CoolPandaTheMovieNerd 2 роки тому +1

    I would really appreciate if they had subtitles for whatever language he spoke.

  • @liamlinson7563
    @liamlinson7563 2 роки тому

    im starting to see darth nihilus everywhere on youtube, feels like something is coming up

  • @acadiano10
    @acadiano10 2 роки тому

    The thing with him just being a man under the mask hits your point perfectly. Great video.

  • @salvadorcantu7566
    @salvadorcantu7566 Рік тому +1

    I never thought about it that way.
    -In my first run I barely talked to my companions so I missed A LOT, basicly all that can be achieved by talking to characters. So I wasnt dissapointed because I didnt know what he was able to do.
    -On the second run I talked to try and figure everything out. I knew he was a planet killer and when I faced him again, I was like: "oh well, guess for some strange reason he got weakened by trying to use his power on the exile"
    So I kinda thought that since you and him are wounds in the force, and since you are supposed to be a void in the force, he would weaken himself by trying to drain a void in the force (you).
    The conversation lit says: "you will expose yourself if you use your power here" (or something along those lines). So I dont get how people could miss that.
    That would be the explanation I took from the story point of the game.
    The other thing that I thought was that from the gameplay perspective. Since he was basicly a god and to defeat a god you would have to be godlike yourself, then to reach those levels as a player would make the rest of the game so easy. So they "nerfed" him to make the battle possible while not breaking the game.
    Out of topic: As a huge Star Wars and Lego fan, Id love to see a Nihulus minigifure, we had TOR sets and I have Satele Shan and Darth Malgus, why not Malak, Kreia, Sion, Nihilus, Bastila, Meetra and pretty much all of the Ebon Hawk characters from both games?

  • @75JUNAKI
    @75JUNAKI 2 роки тому +2

    Could you do a video on the story of Ulic?

  • @ggt47
    @ggt47 2 роки тому

    Indeed his mere description is enough to terrify you.

  • @zzvvoonnee24
    @zzvvoonnee24 2 роки тому

    Darth Nihilus is like big school bully who scares everybody else and no one dares to oppose him cause he seems unbeatable. At least as long as someone like Exile, who is so lost and feels like have nothing else to lose decides to confront him and reveal his true weakness.

  • @DrMustacho
    @DrMustacho 5 днів тому

    He also stuns your party when you walk in and is only fightable once he attempts to drain you

  • @martingreenwood5595
    @martingreenwood5595 2 роки тому

    hi in one of your videos u said there was an order of planets to kotor is there an order of planets for kotor 2

  • @sethbartley2212
    @sethbartley2212 Рік тому

    Darth Nihilus was great! he was the embodiment of Vader's comment that: "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to power of the Force."
    he really displayed how a battle of force users could really be awesome. Not just flashy swords and lightning, but fighting on an entire different realm of reality that beings of "this crude matter" cannot perceive or comprehend.

  • @OfficialFedHater
    @OfficialFedHater 2 роки тому +2

    Nihilus really is as strong as everyone says, he would solo Revan, but you as a wound in the force are uniquely suited to defeat him because you lost your connection to the force which Nihilus feeds on.

  • @lucasball5336
    @lucasball5336 2 роки тому +1

    The reason Nihlus can't "eat" Surik is only because Surik is the original Force black hole. He's a void, but Surik is a greater void in the force, and when he tries to consume her, he instead looses power.

  • @Jwine95
    @Jwine95 8 місяців тому

    See how i always viewed it, the nihilus fight is so manageable for the exile, and the exile alone because she is also a wound in the force that completely cut herself away from its influence. Essentially he can't consume what isn't there in the first place although Meetra feels the force again, its just as Kreia says "when i look at you its like staring at the death of the force"

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 2 роки тому +1

    Cheers

  • @sonicfan2403
    @sonicfan2403 Рік тому

    Honestly from what I've been gathering from reading on Wiki pages and watching some vids on the guy, Nilius seems to work as more of an antagonist that is a looming force rather than someone who is constantly confrontable to the heroes. Given his vocal tone being chants rather than normal words, his wraithful appearance, his ability to absorb the lives out of entire planets, he kind of feels similar to that of an Eldritch Being. Granted he was at one point a man in his life, but he has a similar fall somewhat like Sauron, where he lost his physical body and his own mind from becoming so attached and reliant on the Dark Side. Also I love the analogy you used to make a connection between the player and Nilius, it gives them some time to think if we actually didn't have bonds with all of our allies and we gave ourselves to much into the Dark Side, would we become the next Nilius ourselves.

  • @Tay234.
    @Tay234. 2 роки тому +1

    When I played kotor 2 he was an after thought for me. Kreya had my full attention from the beginning. I also spammed him to death so he wasn’t memorable for me

  • @TheDarknessFR
    @TheDarknessFR 2 роки тому +3

    im ok with what u tell on the video, i LOVE nihilus but im ok too with people blaming the fight, we can agree how trash the battle is, i hope in the remake we had a better one without change how we win

  • @Funinightmare
    @Funinightmare 2 роки тому +1

    Game wise it is simply just a matter of how much stronger you have become and made Nihilus a push over. Thematically it's brilliant that the trauma and horrors of the exile is taken a body and shape in Nihilus and this shows that she has moved on while the once man has utterly fallen into darkness like so many sith.
    Too many of us back then we're thinking too much like gamers, not only missing the mark since we were too young but because our minds were overtaken by KOTOR 1 which was much closer to the traditional Star Wars than its sequel.
    Right now we're older and are experiencing our own traumas and demons, here we are finally realising the brilliance of KOTOR 2 when we should have done so when it came out

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly6873 Рік тому +1

    A thing can be two things. Yes, thematically Nihilus is a great villain for the game. Yes, it makes sense that his great force power cannot harm the Exile.
    But still, Nihilus being a challenging battle would not have harmed that theme. Indeed, it had the tools to show us how powerful our healing had become. By overcoming a powerful foe in a desperate battle.
    Sion communicates his love for the Exile despite the comparative ferocity of that encounter. Kreia sees her lesson completed despite that being a difficult encounter. I can't accept that Nihilus being a tame encounter was entirely intentional. Especially given Josh Sawyer's lamentations about how RPGs never have combat to match the quality of the story. And PoE trying to make a system that could both challenge the player and convey a great narrative.

  • @ECCastiron
    @ECCastiron 2 роки тому

    Were you looking into a Tapani Sector video ? Can we be looking forward to one ?

  • @MisterDanger01
    @MisterDanger01 Рік тому +2

    You forget that he got beaten becouse of surik beeing also a wound in the force and visas weakening him trough her bond with nihilus, a wound in the force can only be sealed by a wound in the force, no sith or normal jedi would be ever be able to beat him, no matter how powerfull.

  • @comicbookguy89
    @comicbookguy89 Рік тому +1

    And to those who want a "real" reason why Nihilus wasn't overpowered in the final fight. He was hungry, he hadn't fed in awhile and craving. He was in a weakened state. And The Exile was a wound, an emptiness. He couldn't drain them because there was nothing to drain.
    But what I love about the Kotor 2 villains is that:
    Nihulus = Exile: Two forces wounded and empty, searching to fill the void within them. One heals, the other doesn't.
    Sion = Atton: Two individuals full of anger and loathing. Both "unkillable", Atton can't be killed so long as someone else is fighting, he will keep reviving and fighting until everyone around him falls, and Sion just keeps fighting. One does so out of selfish reasons, the other does so to protect others.
    Kreia = Traya: Quite literally.
    The Triumvirate is mirrored in the first 3 main party members. It's a beautiful symmetry. Kreia even says that she is a mirror, only showing you what you can't already see. That the "villains" mirror the "heroes"

  • @danielvereb4579
    @danielvereb4579 2 роки тому +2

    I agree with all your points and this video is great! The journey of the Exile is such a powerful and personal story that is worth talking about. But I do disagree on one fundamental point, which sadly is the subject of the video. Darth Nihilus IS a dark mirror of the Exile, a terrible vision of what she could have and still could become. Also a manifestation of her trauma and inner demons. But does that make him a villain? In my opinion, he is a threat, a powerful force the Exile must overcome but like you said, through her own personal journey of self-healing. But she only meets him at the end of her journey. She is not hounded by him. By her own problems yes but since he is the manifestation of these issues, he should be more present. Sion is more of a minor villain because he pursues the Exile. Chases her, hates her, admires her and ultimately his own doubts destroy him. Kreia is also a great setup for a scheming villain. She has been manipulating events from the very beginning, shaping and controlling everything in the Exile's path, even setting her up with this very confrontation with Nihilus.
    I think Kreia is the true villain of this story and she guides the Exile through her journey. Kreia helps Meetra understand herself, the Force, the bonds and echoes, the interconnection of everything and the importance of the actions she takes. Then she forces her to confront her demon and after all of that, Kreia puts her student to one final test. Can she beat the master? What Kreia ultimately wanted was her teachings of living without the Force or at least the understanding of that to live on with the Jedi, that the new order would be better, as it was the flawed Jedi teachings that brought about most of this bad stuff.

  • @lucas4736
    @lucas4736 2 роки тому

    Damn this was deep and humanily personal to anyone

  • @kylescoolclips
    @kylescoolclips 2 роки тому

    I thought the reason that Nihilus couldn't consume the exile was cause she herself was still a wound in the force aka not healed, cause you can't drain a wound?