Vasco da Gama - Part 3 - Age of Discovery
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2023
- Vasco da Gama takes command of the 4th Portuguese Armada and returns to India for his 2nd great voyage to the east. In his path he will leave a trail of destruction. One thing is clear, however, the Portuguese have come to stay.
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Hello everyone! I hope your holidays are going well. We continue the story with Vasco da Gama as he returns to India and brings the thunder down with him! For the next video I was going to finish the story of Vasco's 2nd voyage and include the Epic Siege of Cochin in 1504 where Duarte Pacheco and his 150 men take on the 80k army of Calicut - but I'm thinking now that might need a separate video of its own. Let me know what you think.
Thats your call m8. If you want to do that maybe focus on Vasco and give a mention to Duarte Pacheco and then make one about him if you think you have enough material to do it. Keep up the good work 👍
καλά Χριστούγεννα
I Don't Mean To Get Political.. But Wtf Is A Portuguese
Portuguese what?
@@tituslabienus01
Duarte Pacheco Pereira deserves a video of its own.
The only bad part of this video is that it ends
I mean burning the defenseless sailors, their wives and children alive locked on their disabled ship was a bad part.
@@samsmith2635 i meant the video, the actions of Vasco da gama were terrible, but not the video
@@samsmith2635Rubet Ensis Sanguine Arabum
it was a holy war dude, they brought it upon themselves. @@samsmith2635
In my opinion the worst part is The "Miri" case: I find the actions taken against the Ship "Miri"(And they arrived from a pilgrimage, so I assume they were "civilians" and peaceful and not warlike people!), unusual, futile, radical and merciless, as a Portuguese I feel embarrassed and ashamed for such a way of dealing with people who were completely at the mercy of the angry revenge of D. Vasco da Gama(such a cruel Man")! Jesus Christ
Team Afonso de Albuquerque is waiting patiently.
He's a bit down the road - we're gonna do Almeida first
It's been a pleasure to watch these episodes of the early Portuguese explorers in the far east. The narration and illustrations are detailed, impartial and accurately recount the existing historical accounts that we have. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words - happy you liked my video
yes it was a pleasure seeing the savagery and demonic ways the portugese treated people around the world........
Receipts keep on coming
Ever since I studied the Age of Discovery in more depth, It has always been incomprehensible to me how Portugal's role in shaping the Modern era was forgotten, paving the way for the supremacy of the West.
The impact is much greater, incomparably greater than that of other famous and celebrated navigators and conquerors such as the Vikings and the whole world knows about them and few know about the Portuguese.
My theory is that this probably happens because the Vikings oppressed other white people and this is acceptable with today's lens... but the Portuguese oppressed other ethnicities protected by the woke narrative, thus becoming the villains that are worth voting into oblivion.
Congratulations on having put out a series so rich in details that covers this part of History that is probably the most undervalued and unknown by the general public.
It's a shame that there isn't even a film about this period. The cinematographic potential would be brutal also due to the fact that they were always, but always, massively outnumbered (the starting point of this whole story was the battle of Aljubarrota in 1 vs 5 against Castile).
But no one will have the courage to make a film where they can run the risk of glorifying the white man when the opponents are not white(the Spanish in the Americas also suffer from this, although not as forgotten).
And this was not in an era where military technology played such an important role as in subsequent centuries. As Crowley explains, in their reckless madness, they sometimes even renounced this technological or strategic advantage to cover themselves with glory in hand-to-hand combat.
Nail on the head, historians see whites being slaughtered as just another historical event of no real note, but the suffering of others as far greater, hence this obsession with the love for the romans when they killed the Gauls and the Vikings when they mostly fought other euros.
In response to what you are saying, the lack of glorification of Portuguese, as compared to Vikings, has nothing to do with the fact that most of the opponents of Portuguese being non-europeans. It is due to racism. Many people of northern European descent did not used to consider Portuguese 'white-enough'. Until the middle of the twentieth century, they used to discriminate against southern Europeans because they did not consider them 'Nordic'. They were nordicists, and held racist views against southern and eastern Europeans, and against Jewish people.
@@BalrajSingh-ky7se
Yes, your point of view also adds to the simplistic reason I gave earlier.
I believe that, like almost everything, it is multifactorial. One factor was what I mentioned. Another was the prevalence of Anglo-Saxon/North-European historiography, the late winners, with the undervaluing of the pioneering role of Portugal and Spain, probably viewing their inhabitants at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century as not as capable as the Protestants/Nordics.
Bro even a musket was much advantageous than any other hand held weapon. And canons were ground breaking. Are you telling us canons didn't bring exponential advantage to the Portuguese? Are you denying the size of their ships gave them a huge advantage over the smaller boats? Even before the advent of gun powder, technological advancement in armory has given advantage to European crusaders. It's just that they were highly outnumbered by the Muslims. They killed a lot before being killed. Hence, acknowledging the brilliance of the Portuguese admirals, it's still clear that their technological advantage has given them the upper hand in their exploration and expansion. And I think the reason why there aren't much videos about them comes from their engagement in the trans Atlantic slave trade and the extermination of native Americans by their Iberian neighbors. We still need to appreciate their gigantic role in the commencement of exploration though.
@@phoenix0000
I'm not talking about the naval battles which, up to this point in the series, are what are described. In these, evidently, it was mainly the military technological advantage that allowed victories in great numerical disproportion.
But what I describe should be shown in the following episodes in this excellent flashpoint series, which is also partly covered in Crowley's book.
The Portuguese noblemen (fidalgos) even hid equipment (pikes) taken by Albuquerque that would allow them an advantage with a collective military strategy because they preferred the individual glory of hand-to-hand combat.
And then victories against all odds in siege warfare (more strategy than equipment advantage) where there are many examples. See this one:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_League_of_the_Indies
What is most surprising is that the Portuguese did not enter a world where they had a great technological advantage like the Europeans in the Americas (including the same Portuguese and the Spanish) and yet, they managed to expand the empire more than would be expected. Probably a psychological component, a war of terror and the fact that they were shaped as children of the Reconquista and as religious fanatics.
I am so amazed with this channel. As a Brazillian, all we were taught at school about our Portuguese ancestors was the exploitation of colonization. But then many years ago I found a book written by an English historian named Charles Boxer. It was a book called the Maritime Portuguese Empire, and it was when I fell in love with Portuguese history. Now, this channel came out of nowhere in my recommendations and I finally get to visualize everything I read about Bartolomeu Dias, Vasco da Gama, and Pedro Álvares Cabral. I discoverd your channel today and just can´t stop watching these videos. Thank you for the amazing content!
Really happy that you liked my videos so much - seems like you binge watched your way through all of the Age of Discovery ones! Wow
If Vasco da Gama were American or English there would be hundreds of films about him in the cinema. The American film industry makes films about their colonizers, while the Brazilian industry has never made a single film about its colonizer
You schools were full of liberals and freaky marxist wannabes, which is kinda why you get brainwashed nowadays.
Love this series cant believe no ones has covered this in depth before
There are some videos out there on Portuguese history - but its either in Portuguese or it doesn't go in very deep
because the sanitized CLEAN version makes them look like heroes as opposed to demonic miscreants!!
@@jokuakinyele6502shitty comment coming from someone who suffered 0 from them, the Portuguese. These guys opened globalisation. They are Heroes. Perhaps the greatest of them all. Probably you ONLY exist as you are right now because of them. You should lick the floor they step.
well ofc, just like any other country@@jokuakinyele6502
@@jokuakinyele6502 you mispelled *conquistadores.
Portuguese navigators at the time must have had balls of steel
It was comun saying among sailors of the time that when you left Lisbon you would only see it again after you been at least 1 month lost at sea and survived at least 3 sieges
As a brazilian I congratulate you for your videos on the portuguese. Well done!
Thank you!
Iberia is horribly underrated, considering both nations played a significant role in forming the modern world. At least when I was school, the Spanish Empire was only really mentioned when it was all but dead (Spanish-American War) and Portugal was virtually non-existent.
Thanks to the patronizing anglo saxon ruled world...
Not much is ever mentioned about Portugal with the exception of Prince Henry
I'm guessing you're from USA? That's a given then, it's common to inherit somewhat the same ideologies in history as the colonizers (in your case the British Empire). It's the same in most subjects, resemblances, that's why american architecture before modernism is so similar to english architecture for example. The Black Legend propaganda is a great factor for Iberia to be underrated in Western history. And of course perspective is a thing - in Portuguese history the Dutch sailors are conceived as pirates who steal information that took decades for the portuguese to gather, but I'm sure in their history they are conceived totally diferent.
@@danieldol.1930 I am indeed from the USA, and that's very interesting though also unfortunate. As far as the colonial empires go I find Spain and Portugal to be the most interesting, yet I barley learned about them in school, and afterwards anything I did learn usually painted them in a negative light.
Edit: Also I've heard The Black Legend mentioned before, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.
@@Darth_Enigma Yeah the black legend is really interesting but not often known. And yeah like someone else said in the comments, it's an anglo-saxon world, it is what it is...even myself, an Iberian, I've known about the Spanish Armada fiasco for years, but I only just found out the other day about the counter English Armada fiasco...crazy how education works in the West eh?
This was like a movie.. Fenomenal work. Extremely high quality!
Really appreciate it!
phenomenal*
The best part of this is that culminate with the Ottoman-Portuguese War, when a fleet alience between venece and the ottoman of 217 ships lost against 17 Portuguese ships.
Always going through cycles of what piques my interest. Haven't been on a history binge in a while. My goodness, the quality of these videos keeps getting better and better. Quality work my friend.
Thank you so much! Happy that you liked this video
What a cliffhanger! Hope we don’t have to wait long for the next episode, I’m on the edge of my seat!
Next video will not be as long - so I can usually get it out sooner
If Hollywood ever takes an eye to all these plots there will be an onslaught of Portuguese empire based movies. Everybody loves an underdog. Love your videos man, make me feel so proud of my heritage. I googled my last name "Traquete" long time ago and automatically felt the connection. My dad didnt even know what it meant and that was crazy to me.
Já dizia o Fernando Mendes,"Xpetácle"
Another outstanding video on the Portuguese and Its rich history of exploration. Can't get enough of this. Please continue! Well done!!
I'm loving this series, especially after your work on the reconquista! Can't wait for next episode.
Glad you enjoyed it and the Reconquista ones too!
The stories of the Portuguese India run armadas are unbelievable… but some bits are difficult to digest/go through as the treatment of Muslims was beyond imagination. As Portuguese, small country small population all of these stories sounded a bit of fiction (the nowadays context of Portugal is so different) , however 500-600 years ago Portuguese armadas were unstoppable they literally controlled the world.
In That time is normal.
Fonte forget That everyone can BE kinapted and go to north África as to randsom ora to BE slave
Theres a reason there are so few settlements in the coast from Lisbon to Algarve... Those areas were ravaged for slaves and goods for centuries by north african muslims.
@@bolsa3136 interesting connection. It always puzzled me why so few settlements on that beautiful coastal area.
@@bolsa3136 still waiting on this channel to cover the Moors and the Barbary Pirates. However I doubt they will since it will make those of euro-trash descent uncomfortable and uneasy seeing their history of being enslaved and taught hygiene, sciences, math etc........
@@jokuakinyele6502 What is covered in this episode is not for the glory of the portuguese but instead because it was the start of globalisation (all people and continents connected for the first time). This was important and changed the world forever (not completely peaceful but it was what it was. enjoy it!).
Vasco da Gama was a badass! 😮
As usual another great work, people want or don't want portuguese history is just great, congrats for your fantastic work.
As a portuguese I love to watch this series and I praise not only the great achievements but also like to remember the bad and shameful deeds portuguese done in this era.
Greetings from Portugal!
Hello!!
That Cliffhanger Should Be Illegal
hahaha - KNEW that you'd like that one Titus
I am shouting at the television!!! Where is the next one!!! You got me FISH HOOKED, and damn....it's not out yet! Well Mr history guy....chop chop...I absolutely can't wait..please hurry the next part of the story up
Next episode is out in audio format - the video is about 1/3 done
@@FlashPointHx oh thank goodness! I was so into the story, and I hadn't even realized it was over... And then I'm like WTF it's over? NOOOOOOO!
@@DeweyLauridsen5000 really happy you liked my videos so much. I see a bunch of videos in this series before I get into the Spanish
@@FlashPointHx i found your information and DELIVERY fantastic.... The illustration totally made the names and places way easier to grasp. Like when he went back with the Armada to the same places, I understood exactly where he was going back to! Bravo friend.. I'm going to try watching some of the other ones from your selection
And the guy who got named the Terrible is yet to come. Empire building is dirty work, but lucrative.
all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked out . . . or their entire civilization enslaved
Easily the best series on youtube❤
Thank you!
Easily the best history content & content creator, have you seen the Reconquista & Punic wars?
Hi, I’m from Sri Lanka🇱🇰, I have to say this is one of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Can you also go into the Sinhalese Portuguese war which happened shortly after the events in this video in 1505.
Strong link between Sri Lanka and Portugal! There are probably more Silva's and Ferreira's in Sri lanka than Portugal. Always looking to the Sri Lanka Cricket team line up, where is Ferreira and ....
@@josesilva4171 Yha true,many people in coastal areas in Sri Lanka has Portuguese sir names. My sir name is also Peiris.
Peiris is not Portuguese. Maybe a chamge from Peres?
@@bolsa3136 they deviate slightly but definitely 100%Portuguese (Pires or Peres)
@@bolsa3136the spellings are often a little bit off, but undoubtedly Portuguese
Nice vids man! Someone finally doing some Portugal stuff!!
Great subject matter.
Thanks very much for letting out videos for people to know my country's History.
By the way, congratulations for the effot to pronounce Portuguese correctly. It's not easy even to ourselves. Spotleas.
Viva Portugal!
An outstanding job once again
Thank you so much for this ! Really appreciated !
I caught myself shouting "Naaah!" at the cliffhanger lmao, great job.
I love the narration... What a voice 😮
Thank you for the effort you put on these videos. Greetings from Portugal! ❤
Thank you so much !
Fantastic story love this series. Please push it all the way to the full development of Portugal’s presence in India and colonisation of E Africa. A lot of piracy too in the Indian Ocean.
The story of the Spanish conquest of the Americas would be a great follow up.
That's basically what I'm going to do =)
love your videos. I actually thought that Afonso de Albuquerque did the Miri not Vasco da Gama. Will you talk about Afonso de Albuquerque considering he is such a big part in establishing a strong Portuguese presence in the Indian ocean and Indonesia
I've already asked that, Afonso and Francisco, and FPH answered, they will do it asap
In Muslim countries like Malasya and Maldives you don’t want to say you are Portuguese 😬…. The ironic thing is that they assumed we were a massive country with gigantic armies…. Quite the opposite
I simply love this series! Can't wait for the next video! And I'll certainly look for this book "The Conquerors" you always mention in the quotes
Crowley has a real flair for writing - his series on the Ottomans is also really good
Very interesting and informative. Thank you for your job and for covering this part of history that is sometimes left behind. The narrative is done perfectly. Im eager to see more videos about the Portuguese empire if you plan to do more ! :)
Thank you so much ! - yes definitely continuing with this
Wow, this documentary series is truly amazing 👏....keep up the good work.
In love with this series.
This is what i was waiting for for ages
Great efforts guys. Thank you for the fantastic work.
I think the translation to many more languages will make your videos more popular.
There should be a subtitles option that auto translates into other languages
If Vasco da Gama were American or English there would be hundreds of films about him in the cinema. The American film industry makes films about their colonizers, while the Brazilian industry has never made a single film about its colonizer
300- 500 years from now those without melanin will be severely at an disadvantage and dealing with high levels of skin cancers and other diseases.
Love that ending song!
Seems like a lot of people liked that song 'Bangalore at Night'
At least the Portuguese never did what the British did. Jallianwala Bagh Massacre, or Massacre of Amritsar, (1919) Incident in which British troops killed several hundred unarmed Indian protesters.
In 1919 the British government of India enacted the Rowlatt Acts, extending its World War I emergency powers to combat subversive activities. On April 13 a large crowd gathered in an open space known as the Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar in the Punjab region to protest the measures; troops opened fire, killing some 379 and wounding about 1,200.
The massacre permanently scarred relations between India and Britain and was the prelude to Mahatma Gandhi’s noncooperation movement of 1920-22.
uhh wait till you get to part 4 and find out how many civilians perished in the malabar coast and later at diu
Well they got a bit too rapey and couldn't control themselves with local european women, so the response occured.
Gonna be there! Love your content guys 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Nice!! See you tomorrow Daniel
@@FlashPointHx See ya there!
Excellent historical coverage episode about famous Vasco de Gama...and a point of pastor Portugal 🇵🇹 history....thank you ( Flash point history) channel.
Glad you enjoyed it
I just love how petty jabs are a thing that streches back hundreds and even thousands of years... pretty much the King of Portugal went in modern meme terms "This is your Christopher Colombus drawn as the virgin admiral of the seas next to Vasco Da Gama drawn as the chad admiral of india"
Yeah - when I read about that I was convinced I had to add that in - it’s all about outdoing your neighbor
Steel sharpens steel and all that...@@FlashPointHx
Yesss
Wow. Great series of videos. Thank you.
Oh no! A cliffhanger! Why do you do this to us! 😭
Now seriously, nice video! The cruelty of da Gama was enormous, but the results really show a sad Machiavellian truth about the world (specially a pre-Liberalism/multilateralism world): if you want to rule, try to be both, but if you have to choose, remember that being feared is better than being loved.
Gama took that to an extreme - he definitely wanted to be feared
Stoked to tune in to this and chill 🔥
Thank you very much!
Welcome :)
We been waiting
Another cool series from FPH! This one has been pretty nifty so far
Great job! I'm looking forward for the next episode of this series!
Love your videos! I'm looking forward to a next episode!
Amazing work! Can't wait for the next video!
Excellent lesson. Thank you for sharing.
Anytime :)
Another great video as always FPH!
Thank you! I think I saw you at the premiere as well
Amazing video!
Really looking forward to part 4 and more!
Thank you guys.
Hoping to have the next video out in a few weeks - will conclude da Gama
Excellent as always!!
Thank you so much!
I just found this channel and I must say I am incredibly impressed. The attention to detail, great storytelling, and informative map to tie it all together, it's just the perfect way to teach history and this has already become my all time favourite history channel. Please keep making videos like these!
Thank you so much for the awesome comment - happy you like my videos and definitely will continue making them :)
Iwas waiting for this ! Thank you so much ! Awesome work
Thanks!
Awesome! I need the next episode now!
I have already listend to this Episode of your Podcast. I just can not manage to wait until the UA-cam Video is online. Although i know the content i have to assure you that the visuals bring it to a completely different Level. Thank you for your Great work again.
Wow thanks for making this series! I can't wait till you get to Ethiopia and see through the alliance of Christian Ethiopia and Christian Portugal against Muslims, and soon the Magellan expedition and the Spanish and Latin Americans in the Philippines.
Excellent Really filling in major gaps in my knowledge
Brilliant video as always and nice little cliff hangar at the end, pronunciations were better this time around and everything can't wait for other travels to be covered
Like with most of my series - I’ll have the pronunciations down just as the series comes to a close ;)
@@FlashPointHx growth pains are a b*tch
I know this is going to be very interesting, but again evening here so will watch it tomorrow!!
All good Henk!
awesome as always!
Thank you!
Such an excellent series! Please, post more frequently!
I’ll try - keep in mind this is a one man show
@FlashPointHx I know. I was just being selfish, I realize, clamoring for more uploads without regard to your production constraints. My only excuse is that the content is so good, it's torture - for me, at least - to wait for the next installment.
Thank you for making these videos on Portuguese history which doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Any chance that a video on the 3rd Armada would be made?
Kind of already past way beyond that. I'm about to release the video on the Battle of Cochin however
@@FlashPointHx very cool
excellent
as usual, very good video, thanks for remember us
AWESOME!
Thanks!
Interesting series
Your videos have always been excellent and fascinating. Maybe I don't understand how brutal life had been back then if people were of differing religions or races, but what Vasco da Gama did, setting fire to a ship full of innocent people, including children, was beyond any moral or ethical norm in any society or any age. That requires a cold heart, and not just a bad temper. The way he treated each Muslim ruler he met when he had a 20 ship armada was despicable, at least to me. They may have treated him badly, but he was far worse. A ruler can't evict the majority of his population because they are Muslim, especially when they are the life blood of the city. Vasco da Gama acted like a Mafia enforcer getting protection money, and I don't think he really cared what religion they were. I think he just wanted their gold and spices. If he did, he should have known that the way to sincerely convert people to one's own beliefs is to convince them instead of conquer them. There's certainly less bloodshed on both sides.
Happy you liked my videos - we have to keep in mind just how brutal the mind set of some of these people were. Especially after emerging from the end of the Reconquista. Granted there are some lines you don’t cross. Easily Vasco’s example would be repeated again and again and again even to our modern age. Seems as if every empire is built on the backs of the vanquished
@@FlashPointHx True, and non-combatants were and always will be casualties of war. However, the ship full of people being robbed, disabled, then set on fire stands out. I'm pretty sure that many of the Portuguese crew had families with children of their own, and would have opted to take hostages rather than kill. You noted that 20 children were rescued from the ship, which made it easier for me to stop picturing women holding up their babies and begging for mercy, but probably many other children died by drowning or fire.
I remember the scene in "Amistad" (the movie) when a woman holding her infant purposely jumped off of the slave ship. It was a very sad scene. The crew didn't regard the Africans as more than cargo. Humans have always been brutal to each other, showing that we are just a shade away from our chimpanzee relatives, who invade each other's territories and murder any male chimps they see.
Maybe I’m comprehending this wrong but this man was a sick freak. Great vid!!!
Then you have to hear about Francisco de Almeida, that is several notches up compared to Gama. It could be 100:1 in numbers but you rather be in Almeida’s side. These were people that thought god and reason was on their side, they were invincible and had no mercy.
I get the impression that Almeida was a man (who to quote Churchill) who grinned as he fought
Becareful I will steal your content. You are amazing!
Steal?
I'm joking my lord. Big fan of you. @@FlashPointHx
Looking forward part 4
super video
Finally! Darth da Gama is here!
So true
Yes, then came mighty Almeida and super Darth Albuquerque!
Absolutely amazing and informative video. This is one of my favorite channels by far! Just please try to use actual historical depictions, paintings wherever you can and only use AI generated images as a last resort
I try to limit AI - but the cost of an artist is very high - only so much budget - this video alone cost me $300 for an artist
@@FlashPointHx Yeah it's completely understandable and I can see the obvious financial reason why to use AI. I can tell that you put a lot of effort and invest quite a bit into your videos.
For me personally though, good storytelling with simple art (something like what HistoriaCivilis does) would be just as good if not better rather than using AI. I know AI is a good, simple and easy way to source art, but it sort of brings the overall feel of the video down a notch for me. I think it's because the image generation isn't quite as convincing or accurate, and kind of distracting from the bigger picture because some of them look quite outlandish and uncanny.
This is of course all just my opinion and I would keep watching regardless, as well researched content like this isn't found often :)
@@the.pandamonium this is actually good feed back
Finally😁👍🇵🇹 ❤❤❤
Cringe
Great
Nice work on the ão diphtong in Estêvão. You failed a bit on São, but all other uses were on point.
Great episodes. Do you follow the timeline in the reference materials or make changes to how the events are covered in the podcast form?
I have to follow some of the reference material simply as this is history and everything is chronological - however I have to streamline the narrative to avoid too many side journeys and people. A lot ends up on the cutting room floor so to speak. What’s more I have to adjust the material so it presents in a manner that is conducive to a better and more engaging story (some references can be a bit dry). Finally, if I find something that really sticks out as a wonderful character or event, i make it a point to depict that in the light that it deserves.
Great video amazing history. But dang these people were horrible.
Although I am Portuguese I have to agree. In the name of God they committed atrocious stuff. Done exceptions though, like Duarte Pacheco pereira. The start of the global world we live in today was not peaceful but this is probably the most important time in history.
How a small strip of iberianland weant toe to toe against nation leuges bigger and stronger than it
Not that small, buddy, and with swift ships and potent naval artillery. Not even the Ottomans got close.
the dutch are smaller
Yes but those days were destroyed by the 1755 Lisbon earthquake.
True, but drive and hard work deliver miracles. These guys had an unbelievable mentality.
I agree Portugal is still a strong nation.
Ah god starts with the Miri...
You didn't like that ?
@@FlashPointHx very dark Chapter of Da Gama life.
@@talvheet602 so true
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Hey Henk ! You got a chance to see it ! Hope you liked it !
Was the Miri larger than the Portuguese ships? Since the animation gives that impression and at 15:00 you mention its taller.
How common were such large ships in the Indian Ocean?
I get the impression not that many - This was a ship that was going a long distance and was own by a host of very wealthy people - it was the grand yacht of its day.
@@FlashPointHx Apologies for posting the question twice. But thanks for answering twice too.
I was more referring to comparisons between European and non-european shipbuilding. As in, when did European surpass everyone else
Or was it less to do with the shipbuilding itself and naval artillery instead?
@@Wakobear. so that’s a really good question - European ships had been waging war with cannon on the seas for approx 200 years. Ships were built from the ground up to support the bigger guns - ships of the Indian Ocean lived in a relatively peaceful existence and were never built to have cannon - or at least not the bigger guns. By the time of the 4th armada the Portuguese were fielding ships like the Flor de la Mar which were 400 tons - a staggering number compared to a dhow. The Miri was an exception as I mentioned above. However soon there would be an arms race and the Ottomans and the Mamluks would be bringing in their navies
@@FlashPointHx fascinating, do you know of any books on this topic so that i can research this further?
I am now a happy man
Hey flashpoint, I would love if you would do a podcast on the Sengoku jidai Civil War period In Japan.
That’s one of my favorite - loved playing Shogun
Yes! They fought back!!
Boy did they ever - and in the next video they take it to an all new level
Nice! Thank you for making these videos
Another horrible episode of portuguese presence in 1500's India was the conquest of Siyâl Bet island, henceforth known to the portuguese as the Isle of the Dead. There is a reference of this conquest by Lopo de Souza Coutinho in his account of the siege of Diu of 1538. No idea as to an english translation though.
@@roddeazevedo Anyone with civilized sensibilities
@@roddeazevedo Not virtue signaling here. Just being factual. Check it out yourself if you must. Lopo de Souza Coutinho hides no details.
@@rusticus6393 You are judging withe today Morales. 500 years ago violence was the norme in every part of the world
@@Orionte9 Passing judgement on those who came before is the only way to learn from History lest we repeat it. Don't worry though i, for one, do not advocate for any kind of woke reparations nonsense. Also, the peoples of yesteryear were not total savages blissfuly unawares. Like it says in the video "Tome Lopes would lament".
Fascinating - but why was it known as the Isle of the Dead?
Where can I find the music that start 28:52 ?
got this from a site called premium beats (dot) com - Its called 'Bangalore by night'
How many parts will there be to this de Gama series?
It's The age of discovery, Vasco Da Gama is only one or two more episodes. Can't wait to see what it's coming next.
One more on Vasco - basically him getting home and going into a quasi political exile. I'll bring him back for the Epilogue - he returned to India years later after the Portuguese had basically conquered the Indian Ocean
Extortion, violence, nepotism and protection rackets all in the name of the boss. I've seen this business model before 😅
Yeah - its like waste management - its all a legit business! If you don't believe that they're gonna break your knee caps =)