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- In part one of how to plaster a ceiling, John takes you through a step by step tutorial talking about the bonding coat, all the plastering tools needed for the job, how to apply scrim tape, mixing bonding plaster and finally applying it to the plasterboard ceiling. With plenty of tips and tricks along the way this video is perfect for a beginners guide or the more experienced user prepping you for the next step of the process... the skimming!
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Not going to comment on his method but for a ceiling with small hollows we've been asked to fill we would just mix a small amount of stiffish finish to fill them out and rule off. Wait ten minutes for it to pick up then go over the whole ceiling as normal.
Skimming over plasterboard with some bonding patches can make the job take alot longer and set unevenly.
I’ve watch a lot of your videos and the quality of your work and attention to detail looks fantastic 👍👍
Like the fact that you’re straight into the job with no waffle and you present well. Hate those videos where it’s all about the presenter! Good job buddy and good luck to you.
Great stuff John! You are a natural in front of the camera too.
Really love your videos learnt so much from watching your videos done plastering for 6 years in college
Excellent video, really well explained. I'm a brickie who has dabbled a little in plastering and skimming (mainly only on my own house), and whilst I usually manage to get a decent finish, it's nice to see a professional explaining exactly how to do the job right. Thanks for taking the time to make the vids John.
Thanks Garry, it's really good to hear that these videos are having a positive impact.
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
I'm impressed fella, I've been a painter and decorator for almost 30 yrs and I've never seen a spread bond a plaster board surface to flatten it out.
I've been working on a large house this years where the general builder was thrown off for poor work. His plastering was something else, to give you an idea how bad I've used 170 kilos of easyfil so far.
I've been teaching myself to plaster and I appreciate your tips, keep up the good work fella......
Thanks Alan 😁
Glad you found the video helpful.
All the best, John 😊
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great video John, well explained mate
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it 😎
Take care, John 😊
Stu My Favourite Bricklayer
@@Abid.Z77 absolutely awesome tradesmen a true artisan all the best Tony 👍
Plastering is a truly beautiful skill.
My Father in Law (86) who sadly passed just recently, was an expert old school plasterer. He was taught to hand float coving /cornice in situ.
One of the last jobs he did was on my external facing kitchen, which suffered for years with damp and ingress because of its positioning.
It still looks amazing now, 15 years on and it has never shown any signs of any recurrence.
God bless him.
He would have liked this video, young lad like yourself doing the job properly and with skill.
Thanks.
Hi Bob,
I'm sorry to hear about your father in law, it sounds like he was a master of his craft. It's an honour to think of an old schooler appreciating this video 😊
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
All the best, John 😊
Yes it truly is a dying trade, I left 6 years ago to work in general maintenance.
We did some proper traditional plastering over the years and its hard to put it into words but its all about skimming and speed now.
We did all the tricky cement /lime renders and dashing work aswell. But it got to the point where a rendering job always took alot more organising and effort but you couldn't really charge alot more than you could for a simple skimming job.
We ended up simply shying away from outside work unless it was for one of our regulars.
Plastering is one of those trades that is very skillfull but alot of people don't understand that and or don't really care.
PS. I was always a clean spread but god I don't miss the endless dust!
mixing up on the pavement and next to a black range rover !!!!!!!!! you are brave !!!!!!! but as always a great video and thank you.
I remember when my friend had a paint kettle handle go that was hanging on a ladder, about a litre of gloss kind of bounced onto a near by car 😂 my first reaction was to laugh, then get the white spirit. Was ok in the end 😂😂
I must say John you do explain really well👍
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed the video.
All the best, John 😊
Great job you done there I been a plasterer for 22 years all my work always get done the right way like your self. Because you always get work off your customers all the time. Happy plastering :)
I couldn't agree more. Quality work always stands out, and a customer will always recommend any tradesperson who carries out a quality job 👌🏻
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
One of the most well explained video tutorials I've seen. Thanks John
Thank you Thomas, glad you enjoyed it.
All the best, John 😊
Thanks for the tuition!
Helped a heap today. I had notes on paper to follow. Timing went to shit though!!
Sweating my ring out in a small P shaped bathroom plastering over textured ceiling.
Already did a bonding coat over whole ceiling the day before, almost made me cry and give up. Two coats of multi finish today after watching your video this morning. Trowel angle info was great, really helped. It all dried out soo fast. I don’t know how you all plaster such a big area and still say “ hmm, maybe I’ll give it couple of minutes more”?
Amyway, got it done and to a standard you may all expect. Client’s expectations were met I hope.
Final points - always add more water. It’s amazing how sloppy it can be. Got a lump in my eye though! Skin is a bit sore now. Had safety goggles but couldn’t see through them because of all the sweat and plaster. Tanking around the bath next. Have you done a video using tanking slurry?
Great job John reading the comments yes it’s not the quickest way but it’s the right way on a job like the regency built. Quality quality over speed if I was a customer I know which one I would want 👏
Cheers mate 😁
Same here, I'd recommend a quality job of a quick one any day.
Take care, all the best, John 😊
Amazing guys! John in stands out that being a spread is your trade, you can see the passion. This ceiling is going to be mint.
Thanks Lee 😁
All the best, John 😊
@@garyjennings842 what’s that supposed to mean? You can see nice work stood on the ground. Or have you been on them Bacardi breezers again?
Always wear nice clean white socks and trainers to get the best mix😉great video and well explained and you right about bonding out on the first coat to get the best finish,nice to see someone going the extra mile to get the job right and not just bashing it out and taking the money,pride in your work is by far the best payment you could have.
Thanks coggsy3036,
Some may not agree with bonding out a ceiling to take out bows, but like you said, it's all about going the extra mile for us (and fresh socks and trainers 😉)
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
Great video with instruction and reasoning. You have a good way of communicating this skill. As a DIYer I hire in a plasterer as it's a skill I will not master, small dryboard yes but not a wide exposed area but this helps me discuss this job with a plasterer. I have 4 ceilings coming up in an 1895 house.
Thanks for watching Dave, hope it all goes well 😎👍
Nice vid John. Really appreciate your thorough approach and explanations. A complete how-to vid of a newly plaster-boarded timber-framed lowered ceiling, with chat on scrim mesh vs paper, and bonding vs easy-fill for the joints, plus the best way to feather-over (conceal without it looking like a lumpy shelf), the 20-25mm scrim mesh or paper that runs from the corner down the existing pre-plastered wall. Just done one and it was a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. Can't find a how-to for this plastering scenario anywhere on UA-cam, so pretty much had to guess how to do it. This is budget work on social housing, so for all those on a tight budget out there :-) Appreciated.
Been plastering for 20 plus years and have never bonded a well boarded ceiling before skim . on rough walls yes you would float and set so am confused on your actions all due respect
Been plastering 20 years and Iv never ! Bonded a new plasterboard ceiling ?? Why not make the boarding level first. Not hard 🤷♂️🤷♂️
When your talking 1-3mm you can lose it with the first coat and a rule easy just make sure it’s firmed up a bit before finish coat...
Also I would have just dubbed out with skim in this case rather then using bonding in this case because I’d rather avoid going over two different surfaces (bare board and bonding)
Dubbing tape with bonding on fresh board imo is ridiculous. Probably causing more high points then anything. A hole bucket of bonding on a freshly boarded ceiling is crazy :o
@@blueyamie we had to bond everything.. absolute nightmare but that's the way it was. Especially ceilings sometimes you didn't have to do wall's. Now nobody bonds unless it's a mess
Over cautious on the bonding buisness for me, theres some serious boarding issues gone on here if it needs bonding out, it's a £120 ceiling where I'm from, two coats speedskim....mint!
You are a genius sir that looks so complicated and you make look so easy
Thanks for watching bud 😎👍
Nice one John ..nice to see it done properly ..time taken at the start makes for a easier skim and a better finish .. enjoy the videos you guys are putting out there .
Much appreciated Andrew, have a great day 😎👍
You guys make SkillBuilder look like DIYers.
No mate that robin clevert on there is an unreal joiner these guys are awesome multi tradesmen tho
Compliment to A&E but harsh on Skill Builder. Robin is a master carpenter and roger and Dylan do a great job of producing content for all levels.
I agree Robin is a master, the others NO
Just a little tip.... Well 2 actually; before adding any powdered product to the water always put your whisk in the bucket first, this helps prevent the bonding/plaster clogging to the bottom of the bucket; Always try to minimise mixing time, the longer you whisk the more heat is generated through mixing, and the more heat generated the quicker the mix will go off.
Very nice podcast, John also productive etc...
Keep Walking 👍🏼
Lovely job , great video 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Thanks guys! 👍
Build With A&E 🧱👍🏼
Thanks, these videos are invaluable to the diy'er with a lot more hope than experience ie me
Excellent as always, You'd have probably been ok with skim though. But very thorough!!
Not sure why it needed bonding but nevertheless, a top finish. Good job!
He’s showed you why. The joists are all over the place which makes the boarding all over the place
Love the channel,always belt and braces,take the extra few minutes to get the perfect long term no trouble job.And the staging idea was brilliant never seen it done like that before.
Glad you enjoyed the video. We like to create platforms like that wherever possible, as it's a much easier and safer way of doing things 👌🏻
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John
I remember having to use a hand plunger to mix the bonding and skim.
The good old days! I used to have to mix browning with a shovel in a bath. I'd like to shake the hand of the person who invented the mechanical whisk 😁
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
Is this guy for real? He's way to intelligent and consiencious to be a tradie? :D
very comprehensive ..top job again
Thanks Ian 😊👍
Thx John. Very helpful
Your vids are cool dude... I can plaster really good now, like a pro.
I also bought one of your small tool to get rid of the muck from the corners...
Thank you 😊 It's great to hear that you've learnt from the videos 😁
All the best, John 😊
Would this have been noticed if just skimmed? Great vid 👍
Yes when the sun hit it, along with the ceiling being hideous to plaster being all over the place
Is that your velar in the background John??!! 😉 awesome job as always. I recently used a mixing paddle to fit a drill....drilled burned out in 20 minutes 😂. A proper mixer is a must if your mixing this kind of stuff or dot and dab. Thanks for taking the time to make this film, edit and publish. I know it takes a lot of time. 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Definitely worth investing in the right kit Rob 😁
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
I've been plastering for few years now
Still learning . And even body seems to have their own way. As long as it looks good enough for the painter lll6
There's definitely many different techniques to plastering, but like you say, so long as the end result is perfect, that's all that matters 👍🏻
All the best, John 😊
Ahem, err plastering , best left to the spreads . Make it look easy mate and I know its NOT from personal experience lol . Good informative video on the 'Dark Art' .
anyone ever told you , you soun just like byre grills hahaha
but love watching your vids i'm a real novice DIYer and love to take things on myself if i can
Old school, try using spray on plaster and long handle floats ( Oh, I forgot its England where mixer taps were never seen in homes)!
Love watching a good plasterer at work...also glad to see filling in before as I hate having to convince people who just bang up boards that is doesn't mean a boards on.. its flat!! And the why's he wasting his time doing that..a decent plaster would get over it...no a decent plaster knows how to and what he has to do!! Top stuff guys..love watching u all work
Thanks Dave, it means a lot 👌🏻
All the best, John 😊
Great guidance, round edges of plasterplate where it meets the walls and possibly butts up against an old existing ceiling do l pva first then wait to dry and then put scrim tape on or the other way around? Thanks m8
Great work. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I actually rate this guy very good.
Although I personally believe he didn't need to use Bonding coat.
If you watch the Straight edge when he removes the excess....You can see the bonding made a high spot.
And there was various areas you saw daylight shine through the Straight edge.
Maybe cudda saved him hassle
Very nice wish the gaffer would put the money in for me to bond out ceilings 1st before I skimmed them love to leave work to that standard every time
That’ll be me tomorrow. Albeit a lot more on the floor!
Hope it goes well Chrissy! 👍🏼
How to plaster a ceiling? Simple,find the best plasterer in your area and hire,if you are lucky enough to be in the A&E orbit hire them,they really exceptional.
Thanks Maria! 😊👍
ive been plastering for 15 years . not once have i ever felt the need to bond out a overboreded ceiling
I was thinking that same thing pal
Everyone has their own way of doing things, and I totally respect that.
Just out of curiosity, how would you get over a bowed ceiling? If there's anything more than a 5-10mm hollow, are you just filling it with skim? What about on Victorian properties such as this, where sagged joists are commonplace, and there can be huge discrepancies in levels?
Every day's a school day, and we're always learning new methods and techniques; so I'm intrigued to know what your methods would be.
All the best, John 😊
@@BuildWithAE most of my work is high ceiling victorian stuff but ive never had to bond out after an over board , we skim the skrim and hollows , then first coat and lay down , maybe ive just not come across ceilings as bad as around you area , like you say we never stop learning not picking fault just curious , was the old cieling removed ? or over board
Most over boards I do I would love to fill out first under 5 mm is fine with 2 coats and a speed skim but most old properties could do with bonding out 1st especially I'd there are features that show up the bows
@@BuildWithAE also why have you skrimmed your screws , you must know something i dont
Nice job mate but I I think you would of got it flat with a extra coat of skim in the dips before you start first coat
Just about to do my old bathroom ceiling, not huge, 2m x 2.6m ish. Am I ok using bonding coat in a bathroom? It’s going onto the old painted plasterboard. The room will have good 150mm extraction. Was going to pva/scrim, bonding coat about 10mm, then 2 coats of multi finish. Then mist coat and 2 coats of white bathroom paint.
good plastering video,good tips
Thanks John! 😎👍
Great vid mate.
Glad you enjoyed it bud, take care 👍
Bonding.
Absolutely no need.
Use a 1200 speed skim.
Would done same job with skim.
I want to know how much he is charging for that plus it's tapped edge boards stop it pal
Is laying it on the ceiling with a paint roller an option?
It is yes, in theory you can apply the plaster with a piece of broccoli, aslong as you get it flat after
I have a very large ceiling needing plastered, about 7m x 5.3m how do I manage that without the plaster going off?
Unless the customers going walk around the Cieling with a 10ft straight edge pulling you on half a millimetre here and there, there is no need to use bonding and wasting 2 hours pissin about but each to there own. At least no one can say u aint thorough haha 👍🏻
“Unless customer” - you do this to make you feel better as a trade person, customer just benefits from your attitude. Love attitude of these guys and not much of others😎
How is it that in the UK people go for a full wet plaster finish coat. Where in the us every one dry line fills plaster board. Personally I preferred to just fill as there’s no long drying
As someone in England I would like to know the answer too 😂 I plaster everything but don’t know the reasoning
With plastering skimming it is normally one visit per wall or ceiling,with drylineing there is up to four visits per wall with multiple applications and lots of sanding (and dust) but it drys quicker.
Hope this helps 🤷🏻♂️
@@markworthington3893 I agree and to add to that I guess plastered walls are much more durable than drylined walls as the paper can get pierced easily. I prefer a traditional plaster myself although I guess you could get away with a drylined ceiling as there's less chances of that getting damaged 👍
The filler can flash through when painted, depending on the paint used.
Xtra Sound insulation and fire proofing
Little tip from black country spread. Rotate your whisk anticlockwise and it'll knock up better.
Great video, well explained and will be checking out part 2 👍
How do you know what the right consistency is? Also, would this technique work if plastering over artex ceilings?
Everyone has their own preferred consistency, but if you follow the instructions on the bag it's normally a good starting point. If you're skimming over artex you will want a slightly thicker consistency for the first coat, as you're covering a rough surface.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 👷🏼♂️
@@BuildWithAE Thanks 👍🏾
Nice work!!!
Thanks dude! 😎👍
Good work.
Thanks Paul 😊👍
Hello John
do lath and plaster contents asbestos ?
If the House was build in 1905
No but the layers on it might plus always wear the correct PPE when stripping the plaster off
But every site before you start work should have a asbestos report done👍
@@BuildWithAE Thank you !👍
If it's a listed building and it is plaster lathed you have to put back like for like,have you done a ceiling or wall with the lathes?🤔
We've done neither, as it's not a listed building.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 😊
Is undercoat the same as bonding coat?
You forgot to mention that it's imperative that you mix next a shiney new black range rover
why bond over a flat board ? desined for skim i been a spread 40 years never done it
Remarkable
Thanks Derek 😄👍
Some advise please, been plastering a wall today for the first time, I think I’ve made the first mix to thick managed to get the first coat on wall, Ran out of time to get second coat on wall which it needs. This is a plasterboard wall, can I put second coat on tomorrow and do I need to pva wall again. Thanks in advance.
Hi Barry,
You need to apply two coats wet on wet, so you would need to prime the wall and start again I'm afraid.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 👷🏼♂️
@@BuildWithAE thanks for prompt response.
It's it standard practise to bond over fresh board first. Then skim coat?
If the ceiling is nowhere near flat, like this was, then it's a good idea to bond out first. Not only does it help to flatten out the ceiling, but also makes skimming it easier.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 😊
Nice job, how was the shoulder after a big ceiling. 😩
This was only a tiddler 😉
All the best, John 😊
Not sure why people are moaning... clearly this customer had a keen eye hence why he’s doing this method?
You’ve 15+ years in skimming but do you go back and paint it? Because let me tell you doesn’t matter how good you are they’ll be hollows you will see unless you’ve a great decorator on your hands.
Also What goes on ceilings? Usually white paint which takes your eye off any blemishes.
Most plasterers are the same.... get in get out leave it to the decorator...
good video John
Disagree about let me tell you they'll be hollows !! No there won't be even labourer doesn't get them if still getting hollows after serving time plasterer something is wrong eye gone or can't be fucked laying on all over the place don't know how to deal with multi.. all done with trowel aswell fucking speedskim bollox if you can't use a trowel to get stuff flat why bother
Hi John real good video as I'm about to do a celing. I have had a go at doing some plastering, now I'm going to have ago at skimming a celing. As it is not even I was wondering if you could tell me can I bond on to a ceyling that is all ready plastered or do I have to dry line it to get it even?
Hi Stuart,
I'm glad you found the video helpful.
It's fine to bond over existing plaster, so long as it's solid. If the original plaster is coming away, then I'd recommend removing it or boarding over it.
Providing that it's fine, simply prime the existing area and your good to go 👍🏻
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 😊
Hi John thanks for your quick response, just need be clear about something when you say just prime it I take you mean PVA before bonding?
@@BuildWithAE Hi John thanks for your reply just need to confirm something when you say prime I take you mean PVA before bonding? By the way the plaster is firm and not coming away. All the best Stuart
Hi Stuart,
PVA has been used as a primer for many years and many still use it with no problems. However, we tend to use blue grit now. When PVA dries, it can create a film on the surface on which it's applied, which in some cases can delaminate from the surface causing the plaster to become unstable. Blue grit absorbs into the surface, leaving only the aggregate as a key, which is much more stable.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John
Good job Jhon if you don’t mind me asking how much did you charge
Thanks Leon, glad you enjoyed the video.
That information is classified I'm afraid 😉
All the best, John 😊
💷💷💷💷 what’s your preferred trowel is it worth spending abit more and going for a RST,silverline ect .... ?
Thanks Leon Kyle Robinson
verey god video
Bonding coat onto plasterboard? Is that how it should be done then?
If you want to get a ceiling nice and flat, you can either bond it out as shown in this video, or you could pack the joists out to level them up before you board. The first option is the quickest and easiest way though 😁
Hope this helps.
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
How many jobs entail no height issue or over artex issue
Not really sure how to answer that I'm afraid. Could you be more specific?
If you left the mixer on the pavement, when you need another gauge ,it probably won't be there.
😂 this is very true!
All the best, John 👷🏻♂️
Hahaha this part, "It creates oxygen, or... don't know, creates sort of gas" was funny as hell. Screw the science! It's all about technique in this game! (Unless working with electrics or gas fitting... then DO pay attention to the science. Oh God, do!)
😂 I'm definitely not a scientist!
Have done plastering over the years for myself but it's been a while doing a full wall that's back to brick. Every time I'm using the level on the walls and door frames, I'm cursing. Like who the hell did this?
Surprised the customer chose to keep the old coving. I would hate to see the undulation compared to the new ceiling. Would just bug me. Better to smash it all and start again.
Which town is this filmed in ?
We're based in Leamington Spa.
All the best, John
Why is british plaster brown? Also why are the majority of the videos about plaster from the UK?
I hate those buckets too slim, nice work
Check out part two of this video, where I use a proper bucket 😋
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
Minted
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Hello John. Got a quick glimpse of the skim finish at the end there. How do you get that uniform light pink colour throughout? Sometimes I get it by accident 😆 but the majority of the time my finished top coat can look patchy with slight variation in colour tone albeit always super smooth. Thanks. Enjoying the vids! Joe
Hi Joe,
As it starts to dry out it will go patchey, until it's fully dry when it will be a uniform pink colour.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 😊
The flatter the ceiling is pre skim the more likely it is to all be pink together without any browner patches at the end within 30 mins of finishing the colour will start to change
Robert Pearson yeah, that makes sense. Thanks. I think it definitely adds to the colouration but what I’m talking about I’m thinking is more to do with the water content and troweling the fat. It’s hard to explain and I’m just being a perfectionist. I’ve not been very clear. The plaster always looks pink when it’s dried it’s just not one complete uniform colour. Subtle differences that don’t effect the smoothness or paintability.
Quality work yet again👍
Yeah mate great vid how much bonding would I order if I wanna drag out day work and milk the client dry ???? Any help would be appreciated 👍
Just so you're aware, this was a demonstration of how to get a very wavy ceiling nice and flat. The client wasn't charged for the work, so I wasn't "milking the client dry."
Different people work in different ways, and there have been many different opinions in the comments of this video. We try and show our viewers how we like to achieve the highest possible standard in our work, and in this scenario bonding out the ceiling first was (in our opinion) the best course of action.
If that's not how you would do things, then that's up to you.
Thanks for watching.
John 👷🏼♂️
Not the way i would of done it but end of the aslong he gets a good finish and customer is happy then who cares each too there own. End of the day if the ceiling is out by 5 mil or more it should be bonded out as plaster shouldn't be going on that thick
Hi Ryan,
I totally agree with your points. We all have our own methods and so long as the end result is perfect, then that's all that matters 👍🏻
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John
@@BuildWithAE great work buddy glad someone is actually explaining the reason behind what your doing and when i said about not the way i would of done it I was referring too scrim over the screws as I've never had a problem but end of the if you've had that problem i don't blame you always good too cover your own back keep up the good videos mate your definitely doing a great job in helping people and giving tips
Great video chap but were are your safety specs bud. Don't want to spend half a day in the eye hospital ??.
Sod that should have just banged two costs of multi on customer wouldn't have a clue
They don’t seem to work like that, do things properly
In my opinion it's better to bond out first to make sure everything's nice and level before you skim. But we all have our own way of doing things.
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John 😊
Why have you battened ot wall..that step on frieze gonna look pants
The wall was battoned as there was previously a damp issue. The walls have been treated, then battoned with vertical damp behind and boarded with vapour check board. The picture rail has been designed in such a way as to disguise the battons, and actually looks really good 👍🏻
Thanks for watching.
All the best, John
Milked that job......two coats ov plaster dun
I've watched loads of plastering vids and they're all crap done by dumb ass tradies who'd rather be done the pub spending the money they've just ripped you off for. Where the hell was this video when I needed it?!
It's here forever more now at least Chuck - thanks again and take care 👍
I think you wasted a lot of your time here - back in the day we'd 3 x coat ceilings with board finish - A tight steel float - liberal wood float & light ruling - Final tight Steel float ..... takes a lot less time & gives a Spot-On flat finish with drying time more uniform as Bonding dries at different speed to board....... I know it's only My Opinion - but think about it - Our 'One & One' Teams would get two 3 x bed houses done in a day, 'with' lugging all our planks and tressles about up and down stairs etc - AND Hessian scrim - (Pre-Stilt days of course :-)
Sorry did you just say 2 men would get two 3 bedroom houses done in a day ?
@@mickygism Ceilings ... Yes ... not the walls as well, that would be another two days 👍😎
@@CheckFred ok 👌
That makes sense
Nice video but definetly not a proper spread and I know the real spreads out there will know this just by watching the way he's working and the fact he's bonded out a ceiling when it didn't need it
Hi Nathan,
Since training as a plasterer about 15 years ago, I have worked with many spreads. I have learned that we all have different methods, approaches and ideals, and that different working environments call for specific requirements. If a plasterer is working on a new build site, then their approach would differ from that of someone who has the time to ensure that the job is carried out to the highest possible standard. By no means am I saying that site plasterers care less, or provide lower quality work, I am merely saying that they wouldn't have time to bond out a ceiling to get it perfectly flat (I would hope that a brand new ceiling wouldn't need to be bonded, as it would already be flat).
This ceiling was in a Victorian property, and there was a huge amount of discrepancy (nearly 30mm in places), especially around the edges where the boards met the coving. There is no doubt in my mind, that 30mm could not of been flattened out without first applying a coat of bonding.
If you feel that the way I work is inferior to you, then that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.
John
@@BuildWithAE it's all good John you should know we are in the bitchyess trade of them all I just can't work out why you would make more work for yourself charge customer extra etc if gaps are 30 mm doesn't bonding only cover 25 mm cheaper to double board ? And i mention the way you work it's slow and your making a video obviously but different when doing like 3 bag sets 3 times a day on your own kind of changes the way you go about everything I know what you mean about site work it is completely different spread that doesn't have to worry about dropping it on carpet etc.. it just seems like your milking it haha I'm only having laugh John just like picking brains I've never had to work site or sell my soul get those domestic jobs just do couple jobs for the best builders in the area and your sorted.. also is that room decked out low ceiling or your 7ft 3 🤣 what are the chances of that happening being able to just walk around chilling putting ceiling on no hop op or stilts +
@@BuildWithAE and also doing patches of bonding everywhere could if done tight coat over it all after so all same level and go off at same time your risking getting inconsistent finish like this?
That ceiling has udders
Been plastering 20 years. Never seen anyone do that. Waste of time sorry. Any good plasterer can make it flat with ease...
The ceiling was way out, in many places. One side of the ceiling in particular dived up towards the coving by about 20mm. If it was just skimmed, then how would you pull that much discrepancy out? Skim shouldn't be applied any thicker than about 3mm...
theses two bag a day men make me laugh when you got to spread 100m for £150 a day to a paintable standard then you can say your a plasterer if someone paid me a day rate to fuck about with that ceiling it would be perfect
Hi Andy,
This is a demonstration video in which I am talking to the viewer about the processes involved in this specific job. It is by no means a representation of the speed at which I can plaster, nor is it a representation of how many bags of plaster I can use in a day.
It's not a competition, it's a how to video.
Thanks for watching.
John