PLASTERER DESTROYED LIVING ROOM CEILING
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In this video, you will see me put right a ceiling that another plasterer ruined.
i explained where he went wrong and how to fix it. Also I explain how he could have avoided the situation
Nice of you not to lay into the previous plasterer, really constructive stuff mate.
Yeah I thought that too, sign of a true pro 👊🏻
I find your videos really interesting. I tried plastering on my own after doing a fast track course and quickly realised it's not a trade you can pick up in a month😂 I tried but it wasn't for me as I struggled with timing but much respect to plasterers out there, it's a really skilled trade
Before I became a plasterer, I thought I could just pick up a trowel and go, big mistake mate 😂💯
Definitely a trade that takes time and dedication to become top notch. Resoect
Keep at it M8. You do get the hang of it & you only get better with time
Yeah stick with it and you'll eventually 1 day find it's sticking to the wall and not your shoes and the floor 😂😂
Great to see a good domestic plasterer . Way more skilled than site bashers.
That's the problem we had to skim a 3 bed new build in a day to make money but if you do domestic jobs, you can charge what you like.
Your a good Man. You didn't slate the previous plasterer. Respect to you M8 👊🏽👳🏽♂️
Great job that pal, good to watch you sort that ceiling out with no mess or plaster flying off the trowel. You deserve to be busy!!!!
Not only are you a brilliant plaster er but brilliant human being mate, you don't criticize you are constructive, there I s a guy on here damp Sam, and all he does is pulls people's work apart I've had bad ceiling s and bad days mate I think if we all admitted it I think it would be better
I'm just about to finish my level 1 at chameleon school of construction. I'm 37 been in Groundworks all my life but need a change. I'm hoping to find a company in my area who will take me on when I've done my level 2 In October. I found you because of my interest in skimming. Really glad I have! #TakeALittleBitAndGoInNeat 😊
when i started out my mum and dad let me practice on a full house of artex ceilings , 8 years later i still cant look up at them 🤣 we all had to start somewhere, we all messed up someone’s gaff 😆 luckily it was my parents and not a customer
Would you not re skim them again and make them right?
You’re right, we all have to start somewhere I’m not a Plasterer but a carpenter/multi trade so every mistake you make you remember. Fortunately, the sign of a good tradesmen is not the mistakes they make, but how they remedy the mistakes they make
Top lad iv learnt so much off your vids been plastering 2 years now and only learning more 👍 cant thank you enough pal ❤
So cool you managed to get Darth Vader as camera operator. The breathing really added a depth to this video. I felt like there was someone behind me all the time, inches from my ear. Headphones recommended. Masterful.
Another mint video Kirk, interesting and funny as always. Ive been plastering some yrs but every day is a school day.
Thanks for the tips and entertainment. 👍
Good to see you tighten the ceiling to the joists. See plasterers just tapes crack and skim. Good work.
Literally just sat down at work after finishing everything and then lo and behold there's a new Kirk vid just uploaded like magic!
Timed it perfectly for you 😉
@@Onthetrowel Cheers buddy! Appreciate it haha
I’m a decorator and 75% of new plastering jobs are like that!
Don’t see it until it’s painted cringe worthy.
Customers always say can you fill it, winds me up!
Certain paint types don't do it justice
It really is all this flexi trowel rubbish looks great untill painted .
@@mejustanormalguy4742naa, it’s plasterers these days rushing through the set, I’ve gone to jobs where only a steel trowels been used and it had ripples etc. bad plastering existed long before flexible trowels came along
New builds are rushed mostly down to ££££, plus the fact the person who passes work off hasn't a clue either, those flexi trowels aren't magic you need to have the skills in the first place 😂😂😂😂
Back in the day when you had clerk of works if he seen a face or hole in the skim he would not pass it, some wouldn't pass it if it was polished it to much, they used to say it killed all the suction for the paint and the paint would peel eventually
Golden nugget there Kirk. Thick plaster leaves ripples. I've been mixing a bit thick to help me not drop as much. I'll mix thinner and hopefully it should be less rippley
lovely gem
Beginner Plasterer loving your videos Pal thank you 👍
💯 Hawk/board on a hop up is the most unstable thing in the universe, even more if there's a trowel resting on it
Great video as always Kirk. The heavy breathing jokes, comedy gold!!!! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Love the videos, going to apply the sound advice when I do the small room at home. You need an army of apprentices, as I'm sure there are loads of people keen to learn off the best.
Keep it up mate.
Excellent tutorial, great video
Love the videos Kirk! Brilliant as always
Glad you like them!
As a decorator I’d love to follow on after your work . Most skilled educational and cleanest plaster I’ve seen . I bet there was more crumbs from your cookie than plaster on the floor 😂
Brilliant Kirk thanks your what is known as a diamond geezer!
Fantastic how you taped and poly sheeted all around the room. Pro job 👍
All that prep, must have charged a fortune for that job
You should have your own tv program. 🇮🇪🇦🇺
Genius as always Kirk picked a lot up off this vid 🤝
Cheers micky mate 🙏
I wish you’d work in Belfast I’d have you tomorrow top guy 👍
Rare earth magnet finds joists quickly. Keep giving mine away to electricians . Ha.
I pack the gap behind the board over joists with a 8mm hole and foam before screwing. Use fast set foam then screw. Get on and skim.
Can't always pull the board back tight enough to stop movement in old made up joist. , but foam fixes by packing gaps.
Interesting video and great work again.
Excellent and you’re not a sweating mess at the end like I would be 😂
Great watch during the lunch break. 😊
The amount of arguments between plasterers and decorators is astonishing.
When I plastered back in the early 80' s with a ceiling, we used to put a scaffold right across the room with boards it made it a lot easier with your spot board up with you plus if you did drop anything it kept it off the floor.
Nice one mate. Great work.
Great vid as always mate
nice smooth trowel work
Dude plasters the ceiling like Neo off the Matrix 😂 top job 👍🏻
excellent advice
top video again kirk ! real world jobs is what we want to see !
Cheers mark
Looks like Kirk had a busy morning! The moral of the story is you get what you pay for!! 😉👍
Your to kind Kirk , that previous guy who plastered that ceiling must have been a plumber 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 maybe a sparkie. 😋😋😋😋😋😋
class big man would love be able do this can do whole range of DIY but that is quality 👌
Thank you!
The breathing 😂😂
Great video mate
No need for all that plastic protection with you on the trowel cleanest plasterer ive ever seen👍🏻
Cheers mate thanks
@Onthetrowel no problems big man I love your vids👍🏻
I just had to re plaster a ceiling last and most of the walls last week . He told me the plasterer was a handy man i felt guilty charging him as he’d paid once so i gave a discount and got a positive google review . And like you I’d never mention names. We can all have a bad day . Just not this bad 😬
hey up! I only use sbr when rendering etc, and pva for inside jobs. when u use sbr for skimming does it make the gear take ages to pull in?
The room looks like a room ready for a kill from dexter plus quality video mate
Hi Kirk, have you ever tried spraying carpet adhesive along your scrim lines before laying on the tape? Sometimes l get rolls of scrim that barely stick to new boards let alone painted surfaces.🙄 Never had that issue since. 😉Geoff.
Good tip mate
Kirk do you remember using dute scrim on ceilings years ago ? It was a nightmare if you caught one with your trowel and they would fall off in a domain effect 😞. Buttering the joints first then bedding the scrims in . 😊
I've been told all about it mate 🤣
Before my time though Ian... I started plastering at around 1998
@@Onthetrowel 🤦😁
@@ianturner8459oh I remember the scrims bastard nightmare 🤬
@onthetrowel I used masking tape on a ceiling I skimmed over the weekend. Mainly because I'm only a DIYer and no way as clean as you. I forgot to leave a gap and found out the hard way when trying to remove it LOL
As always captin crackin content where is the wild 1 today after the heavy breathing i was waiting for what you wearing lol welcome abroad sam m8
Another great vid,by the way your remark about painting and decorating was not racist.It was tradeist!
Also great video 👌🏻
1 coat wonder 😂 he’d have been better off doing it in 2 halves if it was to much for him , I can’t plaster to much at once , I know my limit and it’s 1 decent wall at a time or 2 small opposite walls at a time , my main game is plaster cornice and other plaster products making it and installing it , can even make the shoes and moulds to run cornice on a bench to match up with existing coving , I’ve done it all 👌🏽
😂you are right about his breathing. Sounds like darth vader!
Did my first ceiling in my house a month ago as a strictly Weekend Warrior, but even my finish was better than that 😅. I have an eye for detail, but i couldn't live with that finish even as a DIYer.
I thought it was just me that saw it looked bad finish light looked terrible on it but still like his videos and find his tips and advice very helpful so still a thumbs up from me
Previous plasterer was probably not very experienced and made some basic errors. This is why it's worth paying a bit more and getting someone who really knows what they are doing and get the job done right first time. I have seen many plastering jobs like that unfortunately and it tends to look ok until the paint goes on then you see all the unevenness, lines and scars.
Can you give us tips on measuring and cutting skim beads, I struggle to keep measuring tape on long cuts .
Nice one. But I’d invest in a roller pole👍🏻
Hello mate great content recently. Very helpful. Got a question! How would you deal with the old polystyrene ceilings ? Possibly got a big one coming up 😂 would you over board with the poly still up? Rip it all down or can you scrape them off and skim over the glue 😅 maybe talk about it in your next vid as I know a few houses might still have the polystyrene ceiling so may be able to help others ! Cheers mate 👍
Going live tonight at 7pm mate, can you ask this on that if your free?
@Onthetrowel if I'm free fella definitely 👍
Hello mate I'm a beginner been doing it 4 or 5 years and i love it love your videos. on walls and ceilings if it's shiny paint do u just use sbr no blue grit
Good question. I've seen blue grit used for that many times
Sbr and sand is a good cheaper option
Quick question if the sbr isn’t dry and drags the plaster what can you do to stop it congealing and causes lumps in your finish ? Obviously because of the cold weather my sbr/pva is taking longggggg to dry/tack up and some spots on my plaster when I think all is dry starts dragging and then congeals .. it stresses me rite out .. but Kirk your the man you got all the answers 👌🏻 help a brother out 🙌🏻
Best way I found is scrape it off and relay it
@@lukedruggan6839i used to scrape it off but now I just leave that section until it pulls right in
Just big boned buddy 😆😆😆 lovely job fella.
Dont See a Problem, by the looks of the wallpaper 😂
I can’t see to finish before my plaster goes off. If a go mix another bucket, won’t I get a line if I do it in sections?? Ceilings are not easy. Well done!!
It’s not always the joists out but over the years plasterboard drops or contracts up between the joists !
I have to ask, how do you feel about cream cheese, peanut butter or Nutella? I mean do you feel compelled to make it perfect before tucking in?
Hello. What do you do next with this ceiling. Do you sand it with sandpaper for painting? Or is the ceiling in this form already ready for painting? Your colleague from Ukraine
I like how he has ocd over making a mess but then wipes his tools of on his pants. Just like me ahah.
Hay kirk matey cant thank you enough for the courage to delve into to plastering been watching all your videos cuz i dont like doing owt without knowing how to lol if that makes sense basically dont like looking like a fool if i dont know what im on about hahah .. but i have trowel experience but never touched plaster but u gave me the courage to do my artex ceiling but iv base coated the question is can i base coat one day then skim another day guess ill have to seal the base coat off then skim cuz its been left to dry ..got it flattened in nice for first time plastering heheh i think so anyway lol 😅 but yeah can i skim it tomorrow and like i said m8 thank you so much just for being a nice bloke and down to earth really appreciate the way your head works top man gonna stop there with the complements cuz ur head will be as big as ur belly hahah nah just joking u deserve it m8 honestly thanks once again p.s would love to chat in real life hate this txting malarky.
Contact details are in the channel description mate, reach out any time 👍👍
Nice one matey will do added on facebook too realised after should of just direct messaged you lol but thatnks for geting back to me so quickly top man
That feeling when a wet scrim slaps you on the head and neck...a bad day indeed
Do you let the sbr dry or plaster over it when it's tacky
During my apprenticeship in the 70s if you skimmed anything that tightened up before the 2nd coat you would get a slap😂
In Australia for skimming it much more common to roll on and use big skimming blades like those flexi blades but solid steel, any reason not to roll on the plaster first?
I had the skrim come down on me years back when I was a lad. We call it zip lining lol😅. My mates still laugh when they picture me completely covered in skim and tape. Huge dormer room it was aswell, bloody nightmare to sort out
Yes M8 hope all is happy n well.
Wanted to ask.ive noticed you dont use a steel blade on the speedskim........ is there a reason ?
I havent yet used a steel blade myself . ..... just waiting for you to try it first 😊
If you hit it a few times with the steel then it seems to bring the water to the surface of the plaster, the plastic doesn't mate
Legend
Is there a plaster that works best ? I used thistle multi use
Was a difficult watch with headphones thanks to darth Vader.
Great videos though, as an ex sparky we were always amazed by the voodoo witchcraft that is plastering.
Hi I have been following you for a couple of weeks and i wanted to ask do you wait for SBR to dry before plastering.
You can go on it as soon as its tacky but its also fine to go on it the next day when it's completely dry.
It completely kills suction if you leave it to cure for more that 12 hours so great if you skimming over carlite finish or bone dry sand and cement
I used to labour for a plasterer many moons ago, I have a small job and feeling brave to tackle it. @@Onthetrowel
Do you sand it before paint?
Ayup tiger stripe love the channel
Is there a limit to how thick you can apply skim plaster, to fill in low points?
It's all feel and practice. If it's really bad you would be better to float it out with bonding.
If it's too thick it stays so much wetter that it just will not flatten. Or by the time it flattens the rest is set
I want to work with this guy.
Looks like my entire
Living room wall tbh
Nice neat job Kirk I know the plastering before wasn’t that good but I think a good decorator would’ve pulled it out with easy fill and micro scrim on the joints so I feel some of the blame could go to the decorator
Dont know about that. A bag of easy fill screws and scrim, sand down fill again probably and still wouldnt of been perfect. Just skim it 3 hours job done perfect..
A good decorator could fix it but it really isn’t his job. And it’s debatable if the client would want to pay the extra for the making good
Why should the decorator get the blame , there job was to paint a new plastered ceiling , not to put right a load of crap without getting paid .
Plasterer should have been called back to correct the mess they made in the 1st place .!!
Not cost-effective mate, and the end result wouldn't be better than a re-skim.
Been a painter & decorator since 1983 and it never ceases to make me laugh when people say the decorator will sort that. Just because we are a finishing trade doesn't mean that we should put other trades shit work right. When we go out to price the job it's usually before any work has been done. So when they tell you it's going to be skimmed, new skirts, etc, you price assuming the work will be by competent people. The reality is more often than not the standard is as in this video and worse. We don't price for easifil and tape prior to painting a newly skimmed ceiling or walls.
Had a spread round to skim over stippled Artex. After 2hrs he laid it on thick and it all ended up on the floor. I overboarded the ceiling and he came back to skim. Is it justified to pay him for both visits????
Did you plaster over painted wall? I hered you cant do that and have to remove paint first?
How many times can you skim a ceiling, like that one your doing I'm guessing has at least six coats of skim, the initial two, then the last guy who had a few problems and now your doing another two, how many can a ceiling take?
Any answer to this?
Great video as always Kirk 👍 diet no dad bod is in pal 😂 I’m interested in the coaching course off on the sick just waiting for a operation but once I’m back on my feet I’ll join up 👍
Most of it is caused by the " plastering is easy culture" 😂😂😂 yer it's easy to make a complete mess of it and then proffesionals have to come in to put it right, disturbing part is the person who did this probably thought it was good 😂😂😂 i left the trade for this exact reason, it seemed to be everyday we were sent to put jobs right rather than starting new jobs,trouble is getting it on the wall isnt the issue its having the skills to finish it properly thats being lost over the years,i was taught by an old school plasterer but 20yrs was enough for me, although watching these videos is making think of getting back into it 👍
Sounds like poor old Sam can’t breath through his nose properly, like me. Poor bugger.
thought dark vader was filming it 😂
We have enough problems in this country.. need to sort ourselves out before we solve all the other issues in the world.
I remember doing a ceiling like that - but bigger, over artex - The 'lady' of the house wouldn't let me turn the heating off !! ..... It got away from me after having one of the sweatiest days of My life - I was doing it for a painter mate, he took pity on Me and said He'd do all the filling etc before he painted it ... I STILL CRINGE! whenever I think about it 30 years later 😂
It builds character doesn't it 😳🤣
Do you water down your SBR?
No mate, use it neat
How long do you leave the SBR before plastering over mate? And also do you water it down or put it on straight from the tub? Cheers 💪
Just until it starts to dry mate. About 20 mins... the longer you leave it the more it works. I'd you gave it 4 or 5 hours then it literally completely seals the surface
@@Onthetrowel thank you mate really appreciate it 💪 keep up the good work I love your videos and so many useful tips 👍
I could only concentrate on the breathing 😂
He specialises in large night phone calls
He specialises in late night phone calls
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Let's hope when the ceiling was painted they watered the paint down first for the new plaster.
Rendering/outcoat...flat but not smooth... Top coat smooth, but not necessarily flat..