7:33 - “there was no person there”… you were distracted looking down at the screen FSD saw the person, you didn’t. That is one of the super powers of the program is that it is always paying attention and never looks down at the screen like a human does.
And yet it can't see a gate, and many users report phantom braking on an empty road. Artificial intelligence is like fake news. It's always "almost there" and requires the driver to constantly pay attention to protect their own safety. I'd rather just drive the car myself, that would be a lot less stressful than relying on a system that could fail any time and kill me. It only takes one time when you dropped your guard and the system glitches on you. And Elon wants to remove the steering wheel and have us all riding in those Cybertaxis in the near future? No thanks.
@@aftonline Remember that when airplanes were first invented, many people felt the same way. The idea of flying through the air was novel and perceived as highly dangerous. Despite these initial fears, aviation became an integral part of modern life, and now people rely on planes to travel overseas with ease. Autonomous driving and AI are still in their infancy. Just like early aviation, they need time to mature. Don’t expect them to be exactly like humans for now, but trust me, when Tesla and autonomous vehicles mature, they will become far more powerful and accurate than human brains. These systems know the exact distance of every object around them, while we humans do not. We should be patient with these technologies as they develop. Personally, I’d love to experience and enjoy autonomous vehicles. I think they’re exciting and full of potential!
Brooks -- Nice to see a 'old-time Super Car guy' like you using FSD. FSD is not perfect, yet, but it is getting better really quickly. Thanks for the video!
I 100% SECOND STAY-IN-YOUR-LANE MODE! The constant lane changes are alarming and unnerving and sometimes, whether it's stop-and-go-taffic or just cruising on the highway, you just want it to stay put. Number one feature I'd like to see on FSD, along with ability to park once you get to a destination.
@ I have that selected, and it still will make lane changes, I think what he’s requesting and what I’m agreeing with is a button that says “do not change lanes.”
Minimal lane changes + destination in the NAV that's supposed to keep you on the current road should not change lanes. Without both of those, it will change lanes for many reasons.
Yeah dude. I press “minimal lane change “ for every single drive. Like what the fuck stupid car remember that shit you’re not that slick Tesla. you fucking suck at changing lanes and merging last minute . You wanna switch between lanes all crazy like a BMW driver.? OK you better make sure you know how to properly cut between traffic properly. Stupid ass FSD.
I use FSD a lot. Both on freeways and city driving. Went from Phoenix to Albuquerque and back with zero disengagements. Also, I only got one 'touch the steering wheel' nag the entire trip! So unbelievable. Typically at lights and stop signs I apply a little pressure to the accelerator because it's always so cautious when looking. It's not perfect yet, but huge improvements.
I messaged our team lead about your “stay in lane” feature request. As for the small gate that it has a hard time seeing, you should be able to save it in its memory soon.
Amazing how fast we normalize things. YOUR CAR IS SUCCESSFULLY DRIVING ITSELF, on a public road with other vehicles around. I’m one of those people that still stares at an iPhone in amazement of what it represents and how it changed the world. Also, you can tell it to switch lanes less often Brooks, but it’s per drive. So you have to tell it to make less lane changes every time you set a destination and turn AP on which is annoying but works.
Thanks for the update Brooks. I have been using FSD (Supervised) in my Model Y over the past month, with a free trial. FSD does a much better job than Autopilot, but it still has some issues. I would like a "watch me" learning mode, which follows the same roads and lanes home after seeing the way I want to go (while adjusting for traffic). FSD choses a terrible route to my work, and sometimes back home. The long freeway part is mostly fine, but then it choses an early exit that would add about 10 minutes to the drive. It allows for correction on screen for the better route, but it doesn't consistently remember the corrected path the next time. Plus it can't figure out parking well for me at work or home. I also want a "watch me" learning mode for those specific parking tasks as well. Plus it really struggles with the 2 lane mountain road that goes to my house. It is not a problem running in "granny" mode when there is no traffic, but it is intolerable when someone is behind you. I really like FSD (and see a bright future for it) but it does need some work, to get it past being just intelligent cruise control.
I take a path home from the gym and theres an area where it's a one way. It always attempts to go straight for some reason and run over bunch of curbs lol. Almost costed me one time. It would definitely help to have it learn local roads/better driving suggestions, just like how chat gpt sometimes asks you what response was better response 1 or 2 when it gives you an answer
Love my FSD and I use it everywhere. Haven't stopped at a traffic light in years, because every time I'm approaching a red light I just push the button and let the car handle everything.
I have the EXACT same complaints. It’s like FSD ignores the actual map’s navigation. The nav will say I need to make a left in 3 miles and it will never get in the proper lane, or wait until the last second and has to slow to a crawl to find a gap in traffic to get in the correct lane.
Right, me too. I have a feeling it'll be fixed next year. These over the air updates are coming in fast this year, so I imagine it'll continue to spit out at the same pace or faster next year. And now that they stacked the city driving within the highway driving (1 full stack instead of 2), we should be seeing exponential growth with FSD. They're close to solving this autonomy thing.
@illegalmachine - Disagree. At least solving to level 3 but I think level 4 isn't too far away. Exponential growth is what I'm counting on, not linear growth.
If you were on I-95 in Miami and your car was just trying to make unannounced lane changes, then it was mimicking every other driver in Miami on I-95. It's just what we do.
That's amazing,in europe we dont have FSD but we have FSD beta,i used this on my trips through turkey, Bulgaria, Romania without lined streets or iluminated streets and it worked perfectly. Good stuff
I hope the 765 vs revuelto race goes ahead. Will be very interesting as the 765 can punch above its weight. Will also be embarassing for Lamborghini if the revuelto loses. Anyway... make it happen Brooks!
The camera tracks your eye movement that's why you're OK to look away with your glasses on. It will most definitely warn you if you completely turn your head. The lane change thing can be annoying, but i found it just doesn't like having cars in front of it, so if it sees there's an open lane it will go. I got mine set to minimal lane change, but i agree a "no lane change" option would be nice. Ive tried all the fsd modes and i tell you chill is not chill lol. Acceleration from a green light is just as fast as med/aggressive (in Canada it's "aggressive" in US it's "hurry" i guess). They should do something about that. It pulls way harder than I would like it. Tires ain't cheap tesla! Lol other than that, it's been a hoot
Turning your head is irrelevant. The camera tracks your eyes. If he had tried to look at the screen with his glasses on for too long like he did without the allert would have been the same.
4-way stop performance still needs a lot of work. As Brooks mentioned, the car defaults to stopping well before the line at a stop sign, which is a huge issue at a 4-way stop. Other drivers expect a car to stop AT THE LINE, and then be reasonably assertive when it is their turn to go. FSD doesn't quite have this figured out yet. The premature stop, and timid behavior when proceeding needs a bit more work. That being said, the most recent update, in comparison to the prior FSD update, made significant gains in this exact area, as well as many others, so I do have faith that they will get it sorted. Our MYP does a great job overall on my commute on rainy, dark Washington mornings, which is not an easy environment. Thanks for creating visibility to the areas that need improvement, Brooks!! Great feedback for the Tesla team.
I have been using FSD on my model S and Model X for almost 3 years. It has continually improved and is awesome. I would not want to drive a car without it now.
Depends on where you are. In areas such as SoCal or the SF Bay Area, where there's a large enough concentration of Teslas to provide all needed training videos, it's virtually perfect. FSD has been driving me around San Diego for several weeks now on the latest versions of the software, completely hands-free, with only 2-3 disengagements-all of which were navigation issues, which FSD worked out by rerouting to get to the set destination. It's like being driven around by a professional chauffeur, with my hands in my lap or on the armrests. It even does limousine stops at every stop, a skill I've tried unsuccessfully to master. This shows what it's capable of. If you're in one of the flyover states or rural areas, it won't be nearly as good for now; but it will be eventually, once the training video queue fills up.
Very much looking forward to experiencing FSD down under. Looking from the outside in, the rate at which this technology is improving, gives me zero doubt that all cars will be fully autonomous in the future. With an optional override feature, of coarse.
I pay for FAD on my wife’s 24 Y. I really only trust it on highways because it gets confused on city streets too often. You can use the person icon and it will come to your position without having to move the bullseye
Hey hey I need to do another drive me to the gym video 👀 Always love authentic reactions. Love your work brotha. I’ve made my way back to Florida myself 👊🏽🇺🇸
A buddy gave me a ride in his Tesla Plaid from Thunderhill raceway to my front door in Vacaville, Ca using the self drive mode. I was super impressed at how perfect it worked on the interstate and was excellent even in town. Twenty years ago I was involved in a DARPA challenge to build an autonomous vehicle to drive off road from Barstow to Primm. We all failed in 2004 but a year later it was conquered by Stanford University and multiple others. Technology changes so fast. The only way that self driving cars can work in cities and congested area's perfectly is they all have to be self driving and be able to communicate with each other. Add one human to the mix and you're F'd.
_Twenty years ago I was involved in a DARPA challenge_ I remember that well. Hard to believe that was just 20 years ago! See what you started! 🙂 _The only way that self driving cars can work in cities and congested area's perfectly is they all have to be self driving and be able to communicate with each other._ I don't agree at all. It'll work *best* when that occurs, likely eliminating accidents almost entirely. But because FSD is always aware of what's going on 360° around it, calculates control inputs to avoid accidents thousands of times faster and more accurately than humans, and can use full control authority and make exactly the correct control inputs, it will and is still eliminating the vast majority of accidents. NHTSA statistics show that distance between reportable accidents for Teslas with FSD engaged is around 17.3 *million* miles, more than 30 times the 539 *thousand* miles for human drivers.
this is true. I noticed you can influence fsd by using turn signals. Areas where it was about to take a u turn instead of a left or right was canceled because I used the turn signal and it turned with it
Agree 100% with having Tesla add Stay in Your Own Lane mode. Sometimes you just want to chill in your lane when in stop and go and don't want to be shocked into a lane change your not ready for.
FSD in my model y is getting better. It is still way off on many corner cases, but general software is better. I'll never buy it of course, but it is a cool gimmik.
I don't know how anyone can use this and not be a nervous wreck. it's like being in a car with a new/bad driver. once you give up control you can't trust it, can't relax, I don't see me ever using something like this regularly. I've tested it in florida a few times and it's always been nerve-racking
You need a psycology fast course. Humans don t get confortable with new things by traying a few times unregularly. Try it for a few weeks in a row for every drive you make, than form an opinion.
When turning at that intersection, there's only a few dashes before the solid line of intersection. Perhaps it cannot cross the solid line to switch lanes. If it can't switch lanes immediately, it seems to get stuck in the turn lane.
The reason it kept trying to leave the lane is because you didn't put a destination into the NAV. Without the destination, it tries to predict the statistically most likely path to take, which in your area was "take the next offramp". I agree it's not user-friendly.
22:45 you see the person icon above the target I usually use that for ASS (actually smart summon) so the car pulls up nice and close to the pick me up it’s just “come to Me” button
verty good review and info. I hope Tesla watched this also good real driver input and lessons learned. My wife has low vision and limited in driving. This can be such a blessing when it is done right. Need it in as Tesla SUV!
Quite impressive, but still lots of edge cases. I think it is possible now in a couple of years to have robotaxi, whereas a year or so ago I thought that would be impossible. Amazing work, Tesla team!
I love FSD and use it all the time. My wife and daughter in our other Tesla are very slowly starting to use it. Requires a bit of a leap of faith for the uninitiated.
Can't wait to see the new Model Y, hope it has PowerShare, better range and charging. FSD is amazing, with a lot of promise. Subscribing for $99/mo is exciting. Great video Brooks.
people (at least me) really love to witness first tries, first impressions, first thoughts & rates by users when they try something fairly new.. so when you said that "you were really impressed by latest version of it”, I really lost 2/3 of interest out what I had initially to watch this video, but, because I'm your one of the oldest subscriber of your (since when you started your dragies with Tesla), I respect you really for you efforts you made throughout existence of your UA-cam channel & I decided to watch it anyway... so I'll do it now, thank you one more time for the things I know about teslas from your channel.
Im not a Tesla Superfan, or someone invested in TSLA wanting to pump up the hype - just an objective admirer and I've enjoyed driving a Tesla once. The FSD is extremely impressive but its just not there yet - makes me appreciate just how amazing our brains are to do what some may think is a simple task of daily driving. I do believe THAT day will come where a Tesla will perform as well or better than a human in any driving situation. I think its almost there, maybe 95% there, however I feel that last 5% , the little crucial details of the human experience and recognition, will be the hardest for AI / FSD to accomplish. Its inevitable though.
@12:56 yes, the system does "learn". To make mine "learn" after I learn it will make a mistake...I correct the car by holding the blinker stalk down forcing it to where I want to go. It remembers that correction for the future of my drives to that place.
If you want to stay in the fast lane (left lane) don’t use chill use assertive and min lane changes. Chill will always try to move you over out of the fast lane.
So, does the FSD have an open / close garage door feature in it yet? My son has used the summons to get his car out of the garage, but we've never tested it for opening and closing the garage door.
So I paid for FSD 5 years ago but I'm not in a country in which FSD Beta has been deployed. And Autopilot is still just as dumb as ever, with almost zero improvements that could have been incorporated from the FSD program. It still abruptly -and extremely dangerously - changes lanes in the middle of intersections that are on curves or the lanes don't perfectly line up on the other side, it still has frequent phantom braking incidents, and in general has improved very little in the 7 years I've owned the car. As a matter of fact, Autopilot was without question at its best when I first got the car, and with the first OTA update it got MUCH worse and has never quite got back up to where it was. There is no excuse for this situation.
There s definitely an excuse! Makeing self driving software with by using only neural network + vision is one of the if not the hardest problem ever attempted to be solved by humans. I undertand the frustration but you also gotta blame yourself here. You re clearly ignorant on the matter and spent thousands of dollars on it. Kind of your fault if you ask me. And it s not like you could blame Tesla for not trying. Billions of dollars, undreds of people and a tone of time under effort was spent during these last 5 years. Also, the fact that your country doesn t have FSD is not Tesla's decision. It s your government. Do your research, invest in Tesla.
Try wearing regular glasses with no prescription or lens in them. Would be an interesting test to see if the car is detecting the glasses frames on your face.
The car doesn t care if you re wearing glasses or not as long as it can see your eyes (yes, the camera can see through most sun glasses in most conditions). His premis is totally wrong. If he tried to look at the screen while wearing those sunglasses for as long as he did without he would have gotten the allert as usual. Do your research, invest in Tesla.
Yo Brooks did you know if you're sitting at the light or stop sign and the car is hesitant, you can tap the accelerator and get it moving? It'll still turn where it's supposed to. It works in mine anyway, not sure i have the most updated. And yes I know you want it to do it itself but until then just give it a little goose. Makes life better😂
It is great for 90% of drivers who are crap. Even when driving it would be good to have it on as a AI Co-pilot... I'd like to see you do the gym run in Hurry the frick up mode.
Some tip for you: if you recline your seat a bit more backward than normal, the camera cannot track your eyes as you are too far and it will be more like the sunglass scenario situation. Hopefully Tesla is not monitoring this and won't change this. LOL
This amkes no sense. If the camera can t see your eyes the monitoring system will switch off. The premis of having the glasses on is wrong to begin with. The camere is always lookking at your eyes. The camera can see your eyes through most sun glasses in most ambient conditions.
@@lucadellasciucca967 Doesn't matter what the theory is. This is my observation and experience. I can look at the screen for 20 min. or even close my eyes if the seat is further back. My suspicion is that it can detect the direction of the gaze but not where you are looking at if you keep your gaze straight but your eye ball is actually looking elsewhere.
Maybe try it with regular clear glasses. Probably people that wear prescription clear glasses complained and that's why they updated the glasses feature 🤔
@lucadellasciucca967 I'll believe it when I see it cause some glasses give off reflection like sun sunglasses plus some people have transition glasses.
They've been calling it AI for like a decade, but I've NEVER seen it do anything that HINTS are self learning, let alone from mistakes made by the very same car. This second try at the intersection may LOOK like learning, but I bet it was based on other circumstances and set parameters that make the coin flip the other way.
The learning happens at Tesla headquarters where thousands of GPU train the neural network with millions of clips from human drivers. If you haven t seen any learning is because you re not paying attention. P.S. You re correct. As i said, the car itself doesn t learn while driving, only through software updates from the "mothership". Since what s driving is a neural network and not heuristic code, the slightest change in conditions (the incoming car in the adiacent lane) can cause a change in behaviour. Do your research, invest in Tesla.
15:37 I bet what is happening when it jerks like that, is when there is heavy traffic like that, the cause of the traffic is people not keeping to the right. Lack of lane discipline causes so much of the traffic in the US and it’s trying to follow the letter of the law and move you over since you’re not doing the speed limit. It doesn’t realize this is the issue. And I’m sure it limits the speed to 85, since that’s the max limit across the US in Texas. I have a rental Kia Soul, the cruise will do 110 although it’s not adaptive, it will keep me in lane. It’s limited to 129 then will over-rev the engine (~6700/6500)to slow me down, very strange…
I wonder if the next time you go to the gym it’ll make the same mistake and not cut into the lane the first time, or maybe it learned from its mistake and it won’t do it again.
I m guessing you mean if the car has learnt thanks to this drive. There is no learning at the car level. Since a neural network is drivng, and not heuristic code, the smallest change in conditions can trigger a change in behaviour. Software updates come from Tesla headquarters after retraining the neural net with new data (video from their vehicles).
It just might have the memory horizon to remember it got caught in the right only lane the second time around but it wont remember from drive to drive.
I saw you at the gym in your 720s back in the day. You complimented my mustang. You are a super chill dude!
Awesome man! Brooks seems like a really good guy and I’d love to ride in one of his cars😄
7:33 - “there was no person there”… you were distracted looking down at the screen FSD saw the person, you didn’t.
That is one of the super powers of the program is that it is always paying attention and never looks down at the screen like a human does.
Haahah True, I saw the person after watching again.
And yet it can't see a gate, and many users report phantom braking on an empty road. Artificial intelligence is like fake news. It's always "almost there" and requires the driver to constantly pay attention to protect their own safety. I'd rather just drive the car myself, that would be a lot less stressful than relying on a system that could fail any time and kill me. It only takes one time when you dropped your guard and the system glitches on you. And Elon wants to remove the steering wheel and have us all riding in those Cybertaxis in the near future? No thanks.
@@aftonline Remember that when airplanes were first invented, many people felt the same way. The idea of flying through the air was novel and perceived as highly dangerous. Despite these initial fears, aviation became an integral part of modern life, and now people rely on planes to travel overseas with ease.
Autonomous driving and AI are still in their infancy. Just like early aviation, they need time to mature. Don’t expect them to be exactly like humans for now, but trust me, when Tesla and autonomous vehicles mature, they will become far more powerful and accurate than human brains. These systems know the exact distance of every object around them, while we humans do not.
We should be patient with these technologies as they develop. Personally, I’d love to experience and enjoy autonomous vehicles. I think they’re exciting and full of potential!
@@aftonlineeven though self driving is involved in less crashes statistically than normal drivers. You just don't have a clue.
Brooks -- Nice to see a 'old-time Super Car guy' like you using FSD. FSD is not perfect, yet, but it is getting better really quickly. Thanks for the video!
I 100% SECOND STAY-IN-YOUR-LANE MODE! The constant lane changes are alarming and unnerving and sometimes, whether it's stop-and-go-taffic or just cruising on the highway, you just want it to stay put. Number one feature I'd like to see on FSD, along with ability to park once you get to a destination.
you can select in the menu to "minimal lane changes for current drive", which essentially solves the problem.
@ I have that selected, and it still will make lane changes, I think what he’s requesting and what I’m agreeing with is a button that says “do not change lanes.”
@@ripvanstinkle put a destination into the NAV.
Minimal lane changes + destination in the NAV that's supposed to keep you on the current road should not change lanes. Without both of those, it will change lanes for many reasons.
Yeah dude. I press “minimal lane change “ for every single drive. Like what the fuck stupid car remember that shit you’re not that slick Tesla. you fucking suck at changing lanes and merging last minute . You wanna switch between lanes all crazy like a BMW driver.? OK you better make sure you know how to properly cut between traffic properly. Stupid ass FSD.
I like how man got all these crazy supercars and still uses and tests Tesla's full self driving, fair play 👍
UA-cam views ;)
Super cars ownership excludes FSD usage? Or using FSD denies the right to own super cars? You make no sense at all.
His Fastest and best driver's car. ⚡️🇺🇲
Because he’s paid to and has shares in tesla
@@drrightwing4435 Paid by who? YT views and shares sure, that's not a lot. You should consider buying shares yourself.
I use FSD a lot. Both on freeways and city driving. Went from Phoenix to Albuquerque and back with zero disengagements. Also, I only got one 'touch the steering wheel' nag the entire trip! So unbelievable. Typically at lights and stop signs I apply a little pressure to the accelerator because it's always so cautious when looking. It's not perfect yet, but huge improvements.
I messaged our team lead about your “stay in lane” feature request. As for the small gate that it has a hard time seeing, you should be able to save it in its memory soon.
Better yet MANUAL LANE CHANGES meaning stay in lane until requested
@@austin.england you work at Tesla I presume from this comment and are affiliated with FSD over the air updates
Amazing how fast we normalize things. YOUR CAR IS SUCCESSFULLY DRIVING ITSELF, on a public road with other vehicles around.
I’m one of those people that still stares at an iPhone in amazement of what it represents and how it changed the world.
Also, you can tell it to switch lanes less often Brooks, but it’s per drive. So you have to tell it to make less lane changes every time you set a destination and turn AP on which is annoying but works.
Thanks for the update Brooks. I have been using FSD (Supervised) in my Model Y over the past month, with a free trial. FSD does a much better job than Autopilot, but it still has some issues. I would like a "watch me" learning mode, which follows the same roads and lanes home after seeing the way I want to go (while adjusting for traffic). FSD choses a terrible route to my work, and sometimes back home. The long freeway part is mostly fine, but then it choses an early exit that would add about 10 minutes to the drive. It allows for correction on screen for the better route, but it doesn't consistently remember the corrected path the next time. Plus it can't figure out parking well for me at work or home. I also want a "watch me" learning mode for those specific parking tasks as well. Plus it really struggles with the 2 lane mountain road that goes to my house. It is not a problem running in "granny" mode when there is no traffic, but it is intolerable when someone is behind you. I really like FSD (and see a bright future for it) but it does need some work, to get it past being just intelligent cruise control.
I take a path home from the gym and theres an area where it's a one way. It always attempts to go straight for some reason and run over bunch of curbs lol. Almost costed me one time. It would definitely help to have it learn local roads/better driving suggestions, just like how chat gpt sometimes asks you what response was better response 1 or 2 when it gives you an answer
Love my FSD and I use it everywhere. Haven't stopped at a traffic light in years, because every time I'm approaching a red light I just push the button and let the car handle everything.
7:33 you can see the person on the grass … goes to show you have much more alert FSD is vs human eye.
🤣 good catch !
Tried FSD in a demo Highland M3. It worked great.
You: _Drive me to Gym._
Me: _Breakfast!_
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@@DragTimesBrooks, did McLaren save your allocation for a W1? That would be great to see it full tested by you
Good to hear you started working out, Brooks. 💪
He’s been working out he just didn’t get arms like that out of thin air lol .
@@kwilliams3161 that’s the joke, homie.
@@illegalmachine whoops went right over my head 😅
I have the EXACT same complaints. It’s like FSD ignores the actual map’s navigation. The nav will say I need to make a left in 3 miles and it will never get in the proper lane, or wait until the last second and has to slow to a crawl to find a gap in traffic to get in the correct lane.
And Tesla Vision sucks. I miss my parking sensors that literally told me how many inches I am from something.
Check the map to see what version it is on. Some people were reporting that their maps are from 2022 which would be a big problem.
Right, me too. I have a feeling it'll be fixed next year. These over the air updates are coming in fast this year, so I imagine it'll continue to spit out at the same pace or faster next year. And now that they stacked the city driving within the highway driving (1 full stack instead of 2), we should be seeing exponential growth with FSD. They're close to solving this autonomy thing.
@@ronin7645 they’re nowhere close to solving autonomous vehicles.
@illegalmachine - Disagree. At least solving to level 3 but I think level 4 isn't too far away. Exponential growth is what I'm counting on, not linear growth.
If you were on I-95 in Miami and your car was just trying to make unannounced lane changes, then it was mimicking every other driver in Miami on I-95. It's just what we do.
Florida looks so nice, chill and open - Canadian
That's amazing,in europe we dont have FSD but we have FSD beta,i used this on my trips through turkey, Bulgaria, Romania without lined streets or iluminated streets and it worked perfectly.
Good stuff
I hope the 765 vs revuelto race goes ahead. Will be very interesting as the 765 can punch above its weight. Will also be embarassing for Lamborghini if the revuelto loses. Anyway... make it happen Brooks!
The camera tracks your eye movement that's why you're OK to look away with your glasses on. It will most definitely warn you if you completely turn your head.
The lane change thing can be annoying, but i found it just doesn't like having cars in front of it, so if it sees there's an open lane it will go. I got mine set to minimal lane change, but i agree a "no lane change" option would be nice.
Ive tried all the fsd modes and i tell you chill is not chill lol. Acceleration from a green light is just as fast as med/aggressive (in Canada it's "aggressive" in US it's "hurry" i guess). They should do something about that. It pulls way harder than I would like it. Tires ain't cheap tesla! Lol other than that, it's been a hoot
I'll definitely agree on that too 😂, acceleration pulls way too hard, even got me confused with the modes as to which one actually works 😂
@tinongnjong1305 i swear there's no difference! hahah.. aggressive maybe makes more lane changes, but seems the same to me
New update changed the profiles, Hurry is the old Agressive. Just a more delicate word choice.
Turning your head is irrelevant. The camera tracks your eyes. If he had tried to look at the screen with his glasses on for too long like he did without the allert would have been the same.
4-way stop performance still needs a lot of work. As Brooks mentioned, the car defaults to stopping well before the line at a stop sign, which is a huge issue at a 4-way stop. Other drivers expect a car to stop AT THE LINE, and then be reasonably assertive when it is their turn to go. FSD doesn't quite have this figured out yet. The premature stop, and timid behavior when proceeding needs a bit more work. That being said, the most recent update, in comparison to the prior FSD update, made significant gains in this exact area, as well as many others, so I do have faith that they will get it sorted. Our MYP does a great job overall on my commute on rainy, dark Washington mornings, which is not an easy environment. Thanks for creating visibility to the areas that need improvement, Brooks!! Great feedback for the Tesla team.
You can thank NHTSA for that. Tesla had no intention of stopping at the stop line originally.
I have been using FSD on my model S and Model X for almost 3 years. It has continually improved and is awesome. I would not want to drive a car without it now.
I want FSD. Thanks Brooks. Good you are still supporting the mission.
Just when I thought your content couldn’t get better, you surprise us.
Tesla owner here: FSD is not ready
Depends on where you are. In areas such as SoCal or the SF Bay Area, where there's a large enough concentration of Teslas to provide all needed training videos, it's virtually perfect. FSD has been driving me around San Diego for several weeks now on the latest versions of the software, completely hands-free, with only 2-3 disengagements-all of which were navigation issues, which FSD worked out by rerouting to get to the set destination. It's like being driven around by a professional chauffeur, with my hands in my lap or on the armrests. It even does limousine stops at every stop, a skill I've tried unsuccessfully to master.
This shows what it's capable of. If you're in one of the flyover states or rural areas, it won't be nearly as good for now; but it will be eventually, once the training video queue fills up.
@ do you get phantom braking ?
No shit sherlock xD Supervised is part of the name!
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Very much looking forward to experiencing FSD down under.
Looking from the outside in,
the rate at which this technology is improving, gives me zero doubt that all cars will be fully autonomous in the future.
With an optional override feature, of coarse.
I pay for FAD on my wife’s 24 Y. I really only trust it on highways because it gets confused on city streets too often.
You can use the person icon and it will come to your position without having to move the bullseye
Hey hey I need to do another drive me to the gym video 👀
Always love authentic reactions. Love your work brotha. I’ve made my way back to Florida myself 👊🏽🇺🇸
A buddy gave me a ride in his Tesla Plaid from Thunderhill raceway to my front door in Vacaville, Ca using the self drive mode. I was super impressed at how perfect it worked on the interstate and was excellent even in town. Twenty years ago I was involved in a DARPA challenge to build an autonomous vehicle to drive off road from Barstow to Primm. We all failed in 2004 but a year later it was conquered by Stanford University and multiple others. Technology changes so fast. The only way that self driving cars can work in cities and congested area's perfectly is they all have to be self driving and be able to communicate with each other. Add one human to the mix and you're F'd.
_Twenty years ago I was involved in a DARPA challenge_
I remember that well. Hard to believe that was just 20 years ago! See what you started! 🙂
_The only way that self driving cars can work in cities and congested area's perfectly is they all have to be self driving and be able to communicate with each other._
I don't agree at all. It'll work *best* when that occurs, likely eliminating accidents almost entirely. But because FSD is always aware of what's going on 360° around it, calculates control inputs to avoid accidents thousands of times faster and more accurately than humans, and can use full control authority and make exactly the correct control inputs, it will and is still eliminating the vast majority of accidents. NHTSA statistics show that distance between reportable accidents for Teslas with FSD engaged is around 17.3 *million* miles, more than 30 times the 539 *thousand* miles for human drivers.
Yeah, Sebastian Thrun and his teams VW. Good times.
You can help it a little bit by asking it to change lanes by putting in the turn signal
this is true. I noticed you can influence fsd by using turn signals. Areas where it was about to take a u turn instead of a left or right was canceled because I used the turn signal and it turned with it
Agree 100% with having Tesla add Stay in Your Own Lane mode. Sometimes you just want to chill in your lane when in stop and go and don't want to be shocked into a lane change your not ready for.
Lovely video Brooks, keeping us updated with all the software changes in real life scenarios. Thank you very much, greetings from Greece 😁
FSD in my model y is getting better. It is still way off on many corner cases, but general software is better. I'll never buy it of course, but it is a cool gimmik.
I don't know how anyone can use this and not be a nervous wreck. it's like being in a car with a new/bad driver. once you give up control you can't trust it, can't relax, I don't see me ever using something like this regularly. I've tested it in florida a few times and it's always been nerve-racking
Everyone loves FSD. Just gotta try it yourself
@@larryc1616 I stated above that I tested it a few times in florida... I don't love it.
I relax completely once I engage FSD. But it works much better in SoCal where I am, than in some other parts of the country.
first few times of any thing its allways nerve racking but after 20+ times you get use to it and understand the limitations.
You need a psycology fast course. Humans don t get confortable with new things by traying a few times unregularly. Try it for a few weeks in a row for every drive you make, than form an opinion.
When turning at that intersection, there's only a few dashes before the solid line of intersection. Perhaps it cannot cross the solid line to switch lanes. If it can't switch lanes immediately, it seems to get stuck in the turn lane.
The reason it kept trying to leave the lane is because you didn't put a destination into the NAV. Without the destination, it tries to predict the statistically most likely path to take, which in your area was "take the next offramp". I agree it's not user-friendly.
22:45 you see the person icon above the target I usually use that for ASS (actually smart summon) so the car pulls up nice and close to the pick me up it’s just “come to Me” button
Lane lock is a great idea for traffic.
verty good review and info. I hope Tesla watched this also good real driver input and lessons learned. My wife has low vision and limited in driving. This can be such a blessing when it is done right. Need it in as Tesla SUV!
Quite impressive, but still lots of edge cases. I think it is possible now in a couple of years to have robotaxi, whereas a year or so ago I thought that would be impossible. Amazing work, Tesla team!
I love FSD and use it all the time. My wife and daughter in our other Tesla are very slowly starting to use it.
Requires a bit of a leap of faith for the uninitiated.
Keep buying stock my friends
Can't wait to see the new Model Y, hope it has PowerShare, better range and charging. FSD is amazing, with a lot of promise. Subscribing for $99/mo is exciting. Great video Brooks.
people (at least me) really love to witness first tries, first impressions, first thoughts & rates by users when they try something fairly new.. so when you said that "you were really impressed by latest version of it”, I really lost 2/3 of interest out what I had initially to watch this video, but, because I'm your one of the oldest subscriber of your (since when you started your dragies with Tesla), I respect you really for you efforts you made throughout existence of your UA-cam channel & I decided to watch it anyway... so I'll do it now, thank you one more time for the things I know about teslas from your channel.
Im not a Tesla Superfan, or someone invested in TSLA wanting to pump up the hype - just an objective admirer and I've enjoyed driving a Tesla once. The FSD is extremely impressive but its just not there yet - makes me appreciate just how amazing our brains are to do what some may think is a simple task of daily driving. I do believe THAT day will come where a Tesla will perform as well or better than a human in any driving situation. I think its almost there, maybe 95% there, however I feel that last 5% , the little crucial details of the human experience and recognition, will be the hardest for AI / FSD to accomplish. Its inevitable though.
@12:56 yes, the system does "learn". To make mine "learn" after I learn it will make a mistake...I correct the car by holding the blinker stalk down forcing it to where I want to go. It remembers that correction for the future of my drives to that place.
Getting better and better ONLY ONE downside is the price way too high:( for tesla owners it should be FREE!!!!
_ the price way too high_
At $15,000, the price was way too high. At $99/month, it's pretty hard to make that case.
Would the smart summon work if it was raining and you requested it from inside the building?
yes
Rain barely effects the system in any driving scenario at this point.
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Great content man so varied between combustion and ev.
Profiles really only work on the freeway or roads over 50mph.
Minimize lane changes is already an option but you have to set it for each drive
Minimize lane changes doesn't work
Thanks for the video, I am not sure but I think that if you put FSD in chill mode it might stay in the same lane.
that ASS feature is pretty cool
I keep mine set in minimal lane changes and don't have any problems.
You have a beautiful house and live in a beautiful neighborhood… Totally awesome
Chill mode won't change lanes. I use it in heavy LA traffic without issues.
it will, I showed this in the video
Full Self Driving will not be truly safe without V2X and passive in road RFID markers
IF by truly ready you mean 100% perfect maybe. Otherwise, do your research, invest in Tesla.
If you want to stay in the fast lane (left lane) don’t use chill use assertive and min lane changes. Chill will always try to move you over out of the fast lane.
negative, tried that too....
Dragtimes Great Video I think Teslas full self driving system is pretty awesome and I definitely agree that Tesla should make a stay in your lane mode
When I use FSD in my model Y it prefers not to cross solid lines and right after your turn it immediately turns solid
So, does the FSD have an open / close garage door feature in it yet? My son has used the summons to get his car out of the garage, but we've never tested it for opening and closing the garage door.
Did you option Innodrive on the 911 Turbo? If so, I'd love to see a comparison. (I know Tesla is WAY ahead, but still.) Keep makin' great content!
You are so spot-on!
It is still in need of tuning on highway 1 in northern California
One of the best content creaters in YT, but why less views
Brooks you should do a gym session video and show what’s good to exercise on at the gym if you’re an older guy like over 50’s
Nice review. Mine slows to 15 mph after making a turn near my home and shows a 15 MPH sign on the screen - that does not exist on the actual road!!
Do you drive the Ford GT at all or does it just sit in the garage permanently? Just curious if you still drive it?
I take it out about once a month....
@ such a unique car. Nothing else like it.
The floor mats look similar to Smartliners on Amazon.
How come all your cars have Montana plates but I’ve never seen any videos in Montana? And all the cars seem to live in Florida or Tennessee.
17:45 the glasses thing is it probably can’t see your eyes through the glasses so it just assumes your looking straight and not side eyeing the screen
So I paid for FSD 5 years ago but I'm not in a country in which FSD Beta has been deployed. And Autopilot is still just as dumb as ever, with almost zero improvements that could have been incorporated from the FSD program. It still abruptly -and extremely dangerously - changes lanes in the middle of intersections that are on curves or the lanes don't perfectly line up on the other side, it still has frequent phantom braking incidents, and in general has improved very little in the 7 years I've owned the car. As a matter of fact, Autopilot was without question at its best when I first got the car, and with the first OTA update it got MUCH worse and has never quite got back up to where it was. There is no excuse for this situation.
There s definitely an excuse! Makeing self driving software with by using only neural network + vision is one of the if not the hardest problem ever attempted to be solved by humans. I undertand the frustration but you also gotta blame yourself here. You re clearly ignorant on the matter and spent thousands of dollars on it. Kind of your fault if you ask me. And it s not like you could blame Tesla for not trying. Billions of dollars, undreds of people and a tone of time under effort was spent during these last 5 years. Also, the fact that your country doesn t have FSD is not Tesla's decision. It s your government.
Do your research, invest in Tesla.
FSD on 2023 and 2022 M Y. Still scary I'm disappointed. Been driving Tesla since 2019 M3.
Try wearing regular glasses with no prescription or lens in them. Would be an interesting test to see if the car is detecting the glasses frames on your face.
The car doesn t care if you re wearing glasses or not as long as it can see your eyes (yes, the camera can see through most sun glasses in most conditions). His premis is totally wrong. If he tried to look at the screen while wearing those sunglasses for as long as he did without he would have gotten the allert as usual.
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Yo Brooks did you know if you're sitting at the light or stop sign and the car is hesitant, you can tap the accelerator and get it moving? It'll still turn where it's supposed to. It works in mine anyway, not sure i have the most updated. And yes I know you want it to do it itself but until then just give it a little goose. Makes life better😂
Also has minimum lane change option. I leave it off though, I like the scary parts
indeed, I did mention that in the video... thanks!
@DragTimes sorry I missed it somehow 👍
As far as lane changes did you try minimal lane change mode
I have 12.5.4.2 HW3 and it works pretty well. The one gripe is some phantom braking.
I did, doesn't' work...
It's pretty good but it still is slow at making decisions and goes over the line on twisties road for me. It's just too slow for me.
Mine does that not being in the correct lane. I sometimes hit the turn signal quick to correct it.
there is "minimal land change" mode but that applies only to current drive
indeed, I mentioned that I tried that and it was stilling trying to abruptly move lanes...
It’s more work to monitor the FSD system than it is to drive.
Select "minimum lane" change option in autopilot.
Tried that already.
The profiles are only available when driving on the highway now
ah, thank you!
They make those floor mats for my ‘09 Yaris??
It is great for 90% of drivers who are crap. Even when driving it would be good to have it on as a AI Co-pilot... I'd like to see you do the gym run in Hurry the frick up mode.
Some tip for you: if you recline your seat a bit more backward than normal, the camera cannot track your eyes as you are too far and it will be more like the sunglass scenario situation. Hopefully Tesla is not monitoring this and won't change this. LOL
This amkes no sense. If the camera can t see your eyes the monitoring system will switch off.
The premis of having the glasses on is wrong to begin with. The camere is always lookking at your eyes. The camera can see your eyes through most sun glasses in most ambient conditions.
@@lucadellasciucca967 Doesn't matter what the theory is. This is my observation and experience. I can look at the screen for 20 min. or even close my eyes if the seat is further back. My suspicion is that it can detect the direction of the gaze but not where you are looking at if you keep your gaze straight but your eye ball is actually looking elsewhere.
@@tontondavid08 exactly, this guy is clueless....
You have an update? Why do a test.
That turn in interesting for sure, I have about 7500 of untouched FSD driving no issues like that
Maybe try it with regular clear glasses. Probably people that wear prescription clear glasses complained and that's why they updated the glasses feature 🤔
The camera can see through the glasses. The monitoring system will turn off if the camera can t see your eyes.
@lucadellasciucca967 I'll believe it when I see it cause some glasses give off reflection like sun sunglasses plus some people have transition glasses.
They've been calling it AI for like a decade, but I've NEVER seen it do anything that HINTS are self learning, let alone from mistakes made by the very same car. This second try at the intersection may LOOK like learning, but I bet it was based on other circumstances and set parameters that make the coin flip the other way.
It's not self-learning from your drives, it's self-learning from videos of millions of drives.
The learning happens at Tesla headquarters where thousands of GPU train the neural network with millions of clips from human drivers. If you haven t seen any learning is because you re not paying attention.
P.S. You re correct. As i said, the car itself doesn t learn while driving, only through software updates from the "mothership". Since what s driving is a neural network and not heuristic code, the slightest change in conditions (the incoming car in the adiacent lane) can cause a change in behaviour.
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Your new shades suit you very well. The blue from the Technica and the purple from your future Egg?!
15:37 I bet what is happening when it jerks like that, is when there is heavy traffic like that, the cause of the traffic is people not keeping to the right. Lack of lane discipline causes so much of the traffic in the US and it’s trying to follow the letter of the law and move you over since you’re not doing the speed limit. It doesn’t realize this is the issue.
And I’m sure it limits the speed to 85, since that’s the max limit across the US in Texas.
I have a rental Kia Soul, the cruise will do 110 although it’s not adaptive, it will keep me in lane. It’s limited to 129 then will over-rev the engine (~6700/6500)to slow me down, very strange…
That was pretty good.
22:39 I need FSD & Smart Summon now lol
What do you do in the Gym? That’s more interesting than the muskmobile 😂😂
This video should be titled: “First World Problems: Full Self-Driving edition”
You are in standard mode what would have hurry mode have done.
I wonder if the next time you go to the gym it’ll make the same mistake and not cut into the lane the first time, or maybe it learned from its mistake and it won’t do it again.
I m guessing you mean if the car has learnt thanks to this drive. There is no learning at the car level. Since a neural network is drivng, and not heuristic code, the smallest change in conditions can trigger a change in behaviour. Software updates come from Tesla headquarters after retraining the neural net with new data (video from their vehicles).
Do you understand this is just beginning of FSD? I think it is driving very well.
It just might have the memory horizon to remember it got caught in the right only lane the second time around but it wont remember from drive to drive.
The 3W seems to be like an high quality product with a perfect fit. Not sure why AP likes the center lane like the worst drivers on the road 🙂
I recall your love / hate relationship with FSD 😂. Let’s see how this goes….
You should try the new V13!
don't have it yet....