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5 Key Mistakes That Low Elo Players Make | League of Legends
5 Key Mistakes That Low Elo Players Make | League of Legends
#6 and most importantly: the inability to admit that you deserve your losses. Every loss blamed on your team is a loss you don't learn from. My bronze friends are constantly berating me with times they had a good score and lost and how ELO hell is real and blah blah blah. When I watch them play, you know what I see? Toxicity, poor decision-making, refusal to cooperate in team fights for fear of dying, and bad mechanics. Listen, if you get a good score against bronze players, that doesn't mean you're good! Doing good vs. shit doesn't mean anything. If you go 5-0 in lane, it doesn't excuse you getting 50 cs by 10 minutes.
I always find it odd that the players in bronze are the players with the most pride. Bronze players more than anyone else say way too much chat, are always trying to correct their teammates, are always berating their teammates for making mistakes, and so on. All of these things distract your team and decrease your chances of winning.
how to 99% carry yourself from bronze to challenger: 1. pick any champ in any role (you must know the champ well enought to not get a negative kd) step.2 wait until somebody gets first and then write "omg very well played you are very good". next time he gets a kill or does something good write something like "nice mechanics" or "very well played :)" this person will then try to impress you even more and will stop raging about your other lanes feeding. then you tell him something like "you are soo good pls carry us" and then "can you shut down this fed *insertanychampionrighthere* alone" and since he wants to show you how good he is he will give his best to roam and win the game. That makes 2 fed people (you and the other dude) so the best is to take either mid or support (support to get a fed adc and to lick his ass). Your other teammates now also want to be admired by you and will stop raging and give their best.
Watch your elo rise while you absolutely suck at this game...
You lying or nah..?
OneLove Phia
try it
oho how I will.
Tazo Bazgadze
tru
woah, nice man nice gonna try that
Well, I'm in bronze 2, and I'm trying my best to get into gold (High Goals are good) but it's troubling playing with players that become highly toxic and risk too much for one kill.
getting gold is a realistic goal for any player
just focus on your own mistakes and play lots of games and remember to roam, almost nobody in low elo roams especially to bot lane so if you do you're probably gaurentied kills
When you say, "if played correctly" that doesn't tell jack sh**... you should tell us what you mean by "played correctly" how do i play correctly to avoid that annie blowing me up?
True, but that's more in-depth. If you want more specific analysis then you can sub to my channel and see my game commentaries and stuff :)
Ok, thank you for responding, i will look at more of your videos.
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apparently a cool head is also important as evidenced by this reply
friedmayonaise Fox is a bro
+Donatas Jacinavicius Building a Malmortius or not standing 600 range from her.
7:41 - 7:49
I like that analogy...
It's just great!
Maximilian Lotz i spit out my water so much. i had a huge pool of water on my desktop.
Maximilian Lotz omg lol
Maximilian Lotz That analogy is brilliant xD
Maximilian Lotz Your profile picture matches your comment
Here is the problem with me I have a 2.5 KD with at least 70% of my champs i play. I hardly do bad and always lose because my team won't FUCKING LISTEN!! it's so crazy how a human being can ignore 20 FUCKING PINGS AND THE CHAT WHEN SOMEONE IS TYPING "NO" DON'T "Don't SPLIT PUSH" "GO BACK TO BASE" they literately BLACK THE FUCK OUT and when they die they snap out of it and say.... "Where is my team omg you guys suck".... all i can do is just close my eyes and PRAY...This game makes me lose faith in all humans... but i can't quit cause it's a CURSE!! I've started L.O.HELL s4 and just got out of bronze after 7 months and through that time i realized people will. Betray you when you just wanna dance, Everyone will blame you when you are jg and they are losing lane, and finally they will tell you that "i'm a good teemo" when they are vs a fioria... 7 months of hard work to get out of bronze and my life and computers fate relies on a teemo top... vs fioria. We get in the game he gives her 4 kills in the first 10 mins and bot fed vayne 7 kills. I leave the game and close my computer. Walk to my room and lay in my bed wondering why jesus don't really fuck with me like that. That game could possible demote me to bronze 1 back where i was but... now i have to wait 24 hours to see where my account lays....
wow man, i do feel with you bro! Really true story, happens to me all the time even in silver 1!
You sound like a toxic player that doesn't want to be or realize they're being toxic. 20 pings? I'd stop listening to that too, that shit's annoying. Bottom line is a lot of the people playing LOL are children, and they apparently hate being told what to do. They take critique personally instead of constructively so learning how to communicate effectively with that mindset is imperative to getting them to not only listen, but to understand.
You're placing way too much importance on your rank and you're losing the fun of the game. Get back to where you can have fun with it and you'll find yourself improving. Maybe consider playing ARAM for a bit to get a better grasp on how different champs function. Whatever you do, don't keep trying the same thing and expecting different results.
Yea I win about 70% of my games but lose the i'm only getting about 13 lp when i win and i lose 27 when i lose??
1. grab a duo partner, not some diamond1 player but someone in silver 4 or so, something around your level who can play WELL. 2. have fun and dont worry about winning think what can I have done better personally to have won that game and how can I improve 3. Stop using chat. just stop. stop pinging if you have to. At least until you learn to not rage, the higher elo you go the less ragers you get, maybe a troll every now and then but ragers that type into chat hardly get higher elo/rank 5. Lastly, create a new account and pick a champ to master and get to level thirty and start fresh, this is not the perfect advice but if you have the time I'd highly reccommend it it raised my rank tremendously just mastering a few champs. 6. learn every role decently and master 3 champs for one role that you want, you wont get it but when you do you should have a high enough win % to eventually convince ppl to let you play it
Alexander Bemu You make a great example of toxic "help".
Look at the way you talk, the advice you give, and the context it's in. If this is how you behave in a comment section, there's no way I want to play with you in game.
Number 5 is the most important. I have lost so many games solely because people refuse to listen and just end up going in 2v5 because we're ahead and it's "fun"
the point of every game is to have fun, but in multiplayer not if it means taking fun from someone else
Delluminati The point of the game is to have fun.
The point in a ranked game is to advance your rank and test your skill, by winning.
Delluminati ranked games are not for playing around man, it's about winning and having fun while doing it, but never risk losing to have fun, do that shit in unranked games
you know you are in low elo when the adc has 15cs at 20 minutes
+Meepicus I'm not gonna lie, that was me when I first tried to adc (not in ranked, however.)
+Meepicus Yet you're the same elo as them meaning you're just as bad as them just probably in different aspects =)
Welp i'm only at 50-70 cs when i play ezreal, no damn ad :(
+jonas christensen anything under 85 cs at 10 mins is unacceptable nevermind 20 lol
+Name your channel I would say 85 cs at 10 is North America gold 5 (from what I can guess)
I wish this video was on the home page of lol so that more people watch it
I would've also added that low ELO players don't know when keep fighting or when to retreat. So many times we're at Baron, Dragon or Tower, I know the enemy's coming to defend so I tell everyone to back off and then everyone dies from the 4 people that arrive and I'm blamed because I left.
Another thing is not knowing how to play in a balanced way. What I mean by that is knowing when to play passively or aggressively. There's almost always someone in low ELO [I'm currently in Silver unfortunately] who KNOWS he's way behind in CS or simply got countered in champ select and he still fights very aggressively when he knows perfectly he'll get killed. People need to learn when to be aggressive and when to be passive.
That's probably one of my bigger weakness. I'm Silver as well, and I'll be honest, I tend to play passive far more often than I should.
I'm pretty timid in game when it comes to making plays.
Kelton Bowling i'm the opposite lol. I tend to play aggresively.
The sad thing is however... You can be an exceptional player, but all it takes it one douche to upset another douche for them both to go 0/11 and blame lags.
Which is the problem in low ELO, because the further down, the more common it gets. Once that happens, your only hope is to avoid that 22/0/20 Riven and hope their entire team has no map awareness while you split push.
I'm a plat 1 player, and I'm sitting in the middle of the division. Winning and losing, it appears to be my skill limit. So I made a smurf, had the most unbalanced unranked matchmaking (I was against a Season 3 challenger, with a gold season 3 team) for 10 placement games... Then I landed Silver V.
So my thoughts were "Silver V, that's not terrible. I can do something with that." ...Never was I so wrong, months later I'm in Silver III. I can say, witnessed first hand, that unless you're a top tier challenger, carrying yourself out of low ELO is hard. It's not even skill based, it's luck.
I don't believe in ELO hell, you'll eventually climb if you deserve to after a few hundred games but damn... It's not impossible, I've climbed, although it's the people that dictate your win or loss.
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So I can say this: If you're trying, you'll see results. Although I feel for you, it is a nightmare down there.
Indeed. I main jungle (Fav champs: Nocturne by far, then Xinzhao and Pantheon).
I've had MANY games where I went like 5-1-5 by 20 minutes and could easily 1v1 anyone of their team. In this stage, our team should be abusing their lead and push hard, deny exp and gold to their carries, ward up their whole jungle to find picks and so on.
But no, everyone is playing extremely passive and wants their 6 item build completed.
I recently had a game where we had a 17k gold lead by 35 minutes (according to lolreplay). WE LOST because everyone wanted to go 6 items even though 3 clean aces were achieved between 20 and 45 minutes. Instead of taking towers and inhibs, they went back and then continued farming.
By the time they got their 6 item builds, the enemy team also had 4 core items and enough damage and sustain to win a fight. Then they picked our adc who wanted to "solo baron" without ward coverage or sweeping lens...
Having our adc down, the rest of my team engaged 3v5 "no prob we have full items style", got dumped on at baron too and there I stood...
Hans Muster As a Jungle, it's relatively easy to carry in low ELO. I'd say one of the easiest roles that are able to do so.
Players in low ELO hate being camped. You can litterally sit your behind in the top bush and keep gutting that Irelia.
Irelia then ragequits, making you 4v5 and fed.
That perk falls off at around Silver 3 ish, but you can skip a whole league just by doing that.
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I main support... And relying on others ain't easy...
Blackjax137
Indeed, I usually do this with bot and mid (Silver 1 in S3 and playing in Bronze 4 atm. DON'T do placement matches when you're drunk :D)
It probably just was this "one game" everyone has. Very rage inducing nonetheless.
I actualy play with a smurf acount at Bronze II and i dont see this happen much... some times a team that should see this video.... but i think that even lower rank players are learning
I always play with the idiots who disregard towers and think dragon is the key to winning the game. Luxes and blitzes who dont land there cc. ADC's who play like tanks. So annoying
Do you always die first in games?
Not usually i usually just farm until i get ulti
Skylar Cary LoooL
i know that feeling dude... annoying!
I only try to force dragon when it is a clear where there no trouble on the way
That quote at 7:42 is just so good. It really is true. No matter where i am, i always catch myself focusing on roaming and outright killing than taking objectives or watching my cs. As jungler and supp i often forget to ward and so on. I will definitely look to focus more on towers and cs rather than roaming to get fed. Thank you fox for this video, it was super helpful :).
7:50 Best metaphor ever.
It’s 2023 and this video was randomly suggested to me. It’s 9 years old. Boy am I ready for lol nostalgia.
that axl rose pun was sooooo good
Pun?
ED I.N.C lol dunno, I personally think he's doing really good in ACDC
Hey know this is an old video, but i wanted to thank you. When i feel stuck or down on my ass i watch these videos and they make me feel better about my gaming and also act as motivation. Your elo videos are so of the greatest videos on youtube and i appreciate the help they offer thank you.
7:45 love that line idk why
I bet all the new people be like "Oracles? whats that?"
bustex1 Whats that ? :v
no seroously tho, shats oracles?
*whats
*seriously
MAX DERP oracles is an item that lets you see invisible things for a set amount of time. Such as wards, and stealthy characters that can turn invisible.
2 mistake that I found myself doing (and am trying to stop) are:
1) unwittingly going into a 1v2 fight.
If I know that I don't have a team mate close by... don't assume that the enemy is in the same boat.
2) not using my potions.
I think "I am sort of low health, but I plan to back after just one more wave. lets just save this potion for next time...."
speaking of that last one: i wanted to jump through my computer and smack some guy on my team.
-basically we were winning and i called for a tower push (this is after i got the objectives>kills tip) in mid to push us further..... the response was "doesnt matter, we're winning"......
*we lost*
even better the guy blamed me for not being in the teamfights that they had no real reason for starting...... in their jungle with half the other team missing.... pardon me if they surround you and fight in their bushes, then bait you to a turret and more friends, one of whom has epic CC.
still tho, great vid, and i will most certainly work on these things,.
how to improve your game and get out of Bronze in 3 easy steps.
1-Map Coverage and Ward Placement (this will get you out of Bronze all on its own) if you are on lane and not pushing, thenevery other second you should be looking at your map. you should have wards down as much as possible to make sure people are not going to gank you. and so your team has view of where the enemy is going to be.
2-cs /Last hit ( practice this shit until it bleeds from your nose) the more last hits you have the more stuff you can buy to sustain on lane.
3-item build- proper item builds against differing oppenents mean everything in the game. esp on the fly when you have to adapt.
these are core mechanics and will get you out of bronze into silver and possibly even gold if you practice, practice, practice.
Dat nut sack example
This video is a good help to improove and learning from misstakes I would say. I also started to film every game I play to be able to go back and watch what I did good and what I did wrong, that could be a possibility of giving yourself some usefull critisism if you can find your own misstakes in the match after the match if you cant find it while youre playing.
I saw this video then think, RIP Oracles
I never punish in top lane. It's just this passive exp farm until someone makes an all-in attempt. I need to address that.
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***** Susan farms peacefully?...I guess I play him wrong I've been Q farming people mainly
***** SUSAN, The king of Top lane post 12
This is a very informative and helpful video. Especially for newer players. You're not being hateful or insulting, and I really appreciate that. Thank you.
well now dragon is way too op
Fun fact: Sivir's spell shield blocks one dragon attack. ;D
Nocturne's blocks it too. The dragon basic attacks actually count as spells now, because Panth used to be able to solo it at like lvl 3 because his passive blocks auto attacks.
only with 5 stacks
Ackelope with xin you can solo drake on first run of the jungle, same thing with poppy but u just need to go back and buy few pots..easy
with ww doesnt need that
lvl 3 ww can do it without a health pot
Hi, my summoner name is chaosboomdoom. when i first started playing lol in mid/late season 2 I was really bad at the game in s3 i got placed in bronze 5 and I carried every game with kassadin, at times 30 to 4 while my team was feeding. but there was one thing I never realized. I was in bronze 5 I could not learn from the people around me, but what I could do was spectate higher elo players an at time add them an give me tips. Thing to note is you need to think deeply about what they are doing and why like noticing patterns of people backing off at 3:50 since they might take red buff and head over to top. I thought I was already pro I never knew i was in bronze. every time you flash think about it could you have saved that flash, can I wait for them to engage on me an stay behind my minions an not take damage for an a good trade can I use my spells without them trading with me like lets say i'm riven I can go on them stun them keep attacking wait for them to get out of stun an still keep attacking(not a good idea) becuase then they can land an even trade on you. a better way would be to go in stun them get out take 0 damage. In s4 which I am still gaining elo i main riven just a day ago I went 30 to 10 an I wondered to myself why those 10 deaths just why. With this I was able to climb from bronze 4 to almost s1 currently I am in s2 87 lp I am going to get gold this season I know it becuase I'm focusing on my mistakes I went against a duo plat 2 days ago and everything he did I noticed that game he went negative an I went postive as a adc an then the next game I was amazing. My goal is to reach plat this season and I think i can peace :p
This video was super helpful, especially the tip about "having a death grip on the enemy's ballsacks" when ahead.
im bronze 1 , and the onyl reason i bann amumu is , im scared that some1 of my team picks him ... i mean in never seen a good bronze/silver amumu in like 250 ranked games
beacuse a bronze player knows that an amumu that gets counter jungle is pretty much fucked
I ban Amumu and Blitz because I dont trust my teammates to dodge the Q's and not group up.
yes dude i understand u. Thats coz usually ppl think : ha amumu ? his ult is completely broken i'll eat ennemies. And they dont focus enough. Ganks arent easy at all with him and he can't really farm a lot jungle without blue.
even in gold
Kiriltchik git gud
I'm plat 1 and I'm not even that good, but when I played on my friends bronze account I almost threw up at their incompetence and awfulness, and carrying myself out of there only took a day
same as lee, lee in gold/plat are rediculous never land a skillshot
Also I have one more big mistake and it is: Not playing the role ure supposed to an example: A tank from your team just went b and is full on health and mana in a fight your tank is staying in the backlines while u the marksman or assasin with bad defending powerare tanking because of your bad tank that stays in the back and u get killed but now your tank gets in the fight and kinda of ks u because he didnt help and u made the killed guy 1 shot to kill.
I'm sorry, but this is the least intelligent thing I have ever seen online. Half of it I can't understand, and the other half makes me pity you for having taken the time from your "special" classes to write it.
Intrasolarmusic I don't like getting involved, but that was rude. Lacking spelling or grammar doesn't change the message he is trying to make. Tanks soak damage, assassins and carries primarily stay back until they can deal their damage safely or poke until then, and stick to the general meta in team-fights at lower elos.
Intrasolarmusic Is it my fault my keyboard is half broken?!!!
Try not to argue.
CaptainLocoZ NL probably, if not you should refund it.
Idk why but this just showed me on recomended. Miss the good days, back when i was hardstuck bronze 5 and didnt know what champ did what =)
Hi im in plat 2 at the moment, and these 5 key mistakes are the EXACT same for people in gold and platinum
OK I am now in Diamond, and the mistakes are the exact same.....................
I like to think I have pretty good mechanics in lane and I cs pretty decently, but I still find myself losing often. As a mid main I typically can win lane and get some river vision, and put up big kill scores late game with relatively few deaths. And yet I still find myself losing. Any help?
Me 2.Im main support/adc.Always winning lane and bying wards,and cheering up my teamates.But Toxic PLAYERS OFTEN SHOWS
Jackisaboss1208 just because you can get a good kda doesnt mean you should be winning. i have a 2.0+ kda with leblanc but i have more losses than wins. not call of duty.
Jackisaboss1208 Do you force objectives or roam? Are you doing well in teamfights? ask yourself those questions and answer them honestly and you ll have what probably makes you lose. I myself am platinum 5 and my mechanics arent that great but i know when to force objectives or when to roam,
Jackisaboss1208 Make sure when you get a lot of kills, then take objectives since the enemy death timers are giving your team the advantage of numbers. Honestly, in lower elos, baron buff usually isn't used very effectively outside the extra gold, and can sometimes be a bit risky, so the best option when winning a teamfight or getting a few picks is to take a quick, uncontested dragon (and if the enemy tries to contest, force them off since more of your team should be alive), and then try hard to take an inhib. Inhib's put extreme amount of pressure on the enemy, even more so in lower elos when map awareness is lacking and minions can get to the enemy nexus, allowing you to potentially take more inhibs. Also, another tip in my opinion, is to learn a champion with a really good engage against the enemy. A lot of times i see both teams just sitting there, not knowing when, where, or how to engage. Someoene like sejuani ,wukong, or amumu can carry teamfights, as they usually catch the enemy offguard, give your team some time to go in, and feeling more confident themselves when they can count on a hard engage to allow them to do their damage without instantly getting bursted up, helping to prevent tilt and preventing the usual "peel for me" complaining that can start fights more often than you would think.
If your lane oponent is dead and few creeps remain you can help lanes which are having trouble but only if you got 1 or more towers on your lane destroyed by your team. If they have more towers then push
I ended up in S4 last season. Was my first season playing ranked as I had hit level 30. Went literally 2-8 in promos. I fed, was the focus of all the trash talk. The biggest thing I learned was the champion select about who counters who is literally useless in Silver/Bronze (in my opinion). Sure it has it's meta involvement, but people would be like... ohhhh nasus you have to play teemo (and many other instances but you get the picture). At first I listened to them, then after I got demoted to B1 I said to myself... 'well it doesn't get that much worse than this... I'm playing champs I wanna play now." Best thing I've ever done. I promoted back to Silver 4, and games got much better. People would complain I wasn't listening to their advice in champ select (which I still listened to them as far as team comps, if we needed tanky player or AP/AD on our team, etc). But I generally picked my favorite champs. I became decent at the game, was able to contribute much more to the team and things got better. Just wanted to give some real life info on his portion of this video regarding champ select.
for those that have hard to cs like what they tell you to.. play nasus then you will have better feel for csing even with other champs.
change nasus with lb or zilean and just lasthit with aa
Sven schäfer Change LB and Zilean with Karthus and only lasthit with aa.
zilean aa is slower and makes less dmg
Seems like everyone commenting here never played with Anivia
zilean aa has the same speed ;)
Outside of the CS. I find this to be quite true.
Speacially when you have chance to smash a heb. Then, everyone desides to rump the lizard. I understand now dragon is a big deal in the new meta. But, come now. Give up a turrent and a half which is map control for a buff that only last for so long? Come now.
wow, i just realized that i met you in game about 2 or 3 months ago, i think my name was PocketRawkit at the time, i was first pick and made the mistake(later to be proven wrong)of picking ashe, enemy went for leona graves and vi, i rushed qss and botrk and was flamed on, you actually stood up4 me saying situational choice was ok, was silver 5 back then, now gold 4 and rising :)
The Champ Select thing bugs me so damn much. People threaten reports whenever I lock in Kata Top or Kata Support. I end up being the one babysitting them in Teamfights and can only sigh and think "I told you so".
that's because it's pretty stupid I think the pick what you are good at part was mostly for ranked players who should always have an option for each role
Loke Ho Try playing on the Taiwan server. People do not know what manners are over there. They never give you your desired lane even if you asked nicely, they always insta-lock even if they didn't get their role and they BM YOU for screwing them over whenever they lose the teamfight.
Yuuichi Productions genetically im half taiwanese xD anyway so your basicly always with bronzies that sucks :/
Loke Ho I'm Silver V so I have to carry a whole team of those despicable Bronzies.
kata support? seriously?
One thing that really helps win games is VISION. I used to never buy wards so we would never have vision and lose games easily. I started buying wards on any role I play. Sometimes you may not have enough gold for you core item so youre saving, but that core item might be a game changer, but wards can be. Every time I back I buy what I can, Ex. Leblanc Mid, Core item is DFG, your first back is with 1300 gold or around there, so I buy tier 1 boots, and the book with 30AP/10CDR and as many wards as I can. A big tip to help your vision control when your team isnt warding is when you go back and you only have 400 gold, but not enough for any item you really need, buy 3 wards. Its gold you can't really use yet, but the wards WILL help you in the long run. Just because youre a carry or tank doesn't mean you don't need to buy wards. It isnt your supports job to buy wards. One player can only place 3 wards. That's 20 wards if everyone places 3 regular and a pink. That alone will give you a HUGE advantage over the other team.
TL;DR, Buy Wards every time you back with leftover gold and you'll win games easily.
7:46 LOL!
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Thats true, in low elo they play to get realy beefy and stomp the enemy team over and over instead of winning the match 20 minutes earlier. In higher elos...well watch out for your towers ;)
I totally agree on number 5. I have a friend that recently started, and I expect a good bit out of him. His games are lasting nearly an entire hour because no one presses their lead. The most recent one I watched they were ahead 20-4 or something, and their opponent came back and won. They completely failed on pressing their lead and forcing the game to be over. If I had been in that game, I would have been able to lead the team by pressuring their most fed, which was a Varus (with the worst build I've ever seen, didn't get any damage until late). Then taking objectives. Another thing is he does not know the order of objectives. He does worship the dragon. He thinks he can jungle, but that's really just because he doesn't know how to lane against a real person. I know the feeling he has, but I didn't learn to lane against people until I was forced to. I found a champion I liked, Tryndamere, and bot him after he was no longer free. I took him in the jungle at first, but eventually I started laning for some reason. And soon I was a very dominant top laner with Tryndamere. He isn't taking my tips on playing the game, and I think that's where he's failing. (My number one tip for him is to watch videos like these.)
7:47 wtf xD
That baron and dragon advice was quite handy. I was always like OMG GUYS!! WARD BARON!
and pls for all low-elo supporters don't engage lvl 5 when the others are lvl 6 with theirs ults up srsly ;_;
never gank a nasus with 300+ stacks and ult up when you are low lvl, because before you know it you'll start raging because u died (happened to me a couple of hours ago (i was the nasus) and that dude went afk after raging at his teammate top that he didnt help him (top died too in the dive))
and pls for all adc in low elo please do not hug their leona 24/7
Alessandro Ciao But leona is soooo pretty. B===D
That makes a lot of sense, and while I do find myself doing several of these things I also find myself doing a lot of what you say not to do. In particular the priority of dragon as a demi-god. Fortunately I don't play ranked very often if at all, but all the same very informative, thanks for the tips! :D
I always lose in my Road To Silver Promo and i have no idea why. The score will always be 1 lose then 2 wins straght after and 2 lose after and i am there with 89 points after so i win another arnked and get on promos again. Is annoying cause i can win all the normal rank games exept for promos. Always would be 1 guy lol.
There are certain champs you can use in this situation, like Mord or Yorwick, that can be played effectively on a team where 1 of your allies are feeding. If anything, managing to Ghost the enemies fed ADC can drastically improve the game's favor
Aweeffre
the thing is EVERYONE has to play with nubs. Your ability as a league player is determined by your ability to win despite the odds
FBvio don't give up, look at the situation, look what is lacking and can be improved. But NAH we should just surrender cause we suck -_- why just stop playing when it's fun to see the end.
magnusm4 Rather then sit on the soap box and bark orders to your team, try "suggesting" a idea, to the team. Like, hey guys, how about we try "this or that" ? It might work. In that situation, you're not claiming you are the super best player that will carry your team, but you are providing an option that the entire team can elect to, and at the same time it's your idea and you're losing anyway so ppl won't be afraid to try. Since they can just blame you if it fails, but if you're losing anyway worst thing you can do is NOT TRY. And NOT making plays
I have a very poor positioning, I am sooo aware of this. But I can't watch better players' streams. I just don't give a damn about these guys playing. I like playing myself :V So idk how to improve this.
My vision is bad too, but i think i got better. Since i started buying those freaking wards. I still kind of am confused as to where to put them. "In bushes! Where you meet enemies!" -> whaaat? In laning phase i put one in the river bush and in the wall bush. Good enough i hope.
My farm? Well, I'm a support, so i dont get to farm, do I? but i'm pretty sure i would get
The Creator The warding thing in laning phase is what I do. (I worked on it these last days lel) Buying sightstones, then boots, then my support items.
Soraka is weak as hell, my enemies are scared of me early game coz i can actually take 5% of their health down if I aim correctly. And I do, as they are unranked like me they don't even try to dodge. But as the game goes on, I shouldn't stay alone at all or I'm instantly dead.
My laning phase is very much ok for a noob I think (I asked ranked friends)
Oh and yes, when my carry is away in early game, I try to hit them as much as I can when I see my creeps are low, so they cant get the CS :D
But when we all start FUCKIN' AROUND and roaming, I lose my marks. Dunno where to put the wards. Often one or two in the river when we are all mid, so we can see em coming from the flanks. When one tower is down, I put one in the intersection of the jungle... I hope it's fine
kenshila I'd say that 99% of wards go in bushes. All you have to do is put it in a bush, really. There are some places where you have to be specific. Let's say you want to ward blue, put it at the verrrry tip of the blue bush so you can see more area, but still inside of the bush. That's really all there is too it. Don't worry about whether or not a ward is going to be useful, because knowing an enemy is not somewhere is just as useful as knowing an enemy is somewhere.
Two seasons later and this still applies. I think that perhaps an updated version with regards to the several changes (drag buff, item removals and introductions, etc.) would be a hit just like this one!
Ace at 50 mins... better do Drake... *facepalm
THIS.
Lemme take a wraith camp! :D
Try this.
Ace at 50 mins? Only one Nexus tower? 40+ sec respawn on everyone!?......Nah, let's push the other 2 lanes.
your tips dont help at all. its not even tips its something everyone knows anyway
I just hit level 30 in December, and I suck at last hitting. mainly because I jungle. when I did my first provisional match, I was tossed into the mid lane. we won, but I fed early on. the lesson I learned, pick one role and champion to learn and master (for me, I main Warwick in the jungle), and have at least one champion you are comfortable with in other lanes. my first support match sucked because I had to go Blitzcrank and had no idea how to play him. after that, become proficient with other champions in your preferred role, then do the same for the others. this is just to help out the newer players (you know who you are, keep doing work!)
It also pays to have champions for all roles. I have three champions for each role but I mostly play support. If I can't support I ADC or Mid and if not I Jungle or Top(Worst role). I let them know beforehand that I don't do those roles much but if they're fine with it then I'll try. It's okay if you have to be the filler, as long as you can do decently. You don't have to get super fed but you have to at least be able to not feed so much and help out your team in any way you can. It is a team game afterall..
One thing that sometimes is overrated is cs. I understand that if adc has 40 cs after an hour of game it's bad, but when we're 20 minutes in game, I have maybe 30-50 cs but have as much gold as the rest of the team thanks to kills and assists (well, maybe not as much but close enough) they shouldn't cry about my cs. I hate when people play "farming simulator" when I have trouble on my lane. "I can't help, I'm farming, just stop dying" and then they cry about my cs, when I was barely able to get close enough to minions to hit them without dying. I'm talking about normals, I don't like playing ranked, I'm a casual gamer that for sure won't get higher than silver/gold and I'm not interested in geting virtual rewards like skins or icons, but the people I'm talking about are often talking how they are in gold/silver/plat and how good they are.
With all due respect, cs is not overrated. 30-50 cs at 20 min mark is too few regardless of the gold you have. Chances are that you have more kills, but the lack of cs will deny any advantage as the opposing laner will have exactly the same gold than you only by csing and having more deaths.
The only exception to that rule is that if you are the jungler and you are successful with A LOT of ganks, and i still think its too few.
You have to learn to be more effective at csing. Either by not forcing a fight, or forcing less fights, learning to cs under tower if losing, and at the very least (the less recommended, but useful at the end) using your mana to get the last hit. You could also consider changing the champion as csing is one of the first things you have to master.
I do understand that you are a casual player, but remember that is a team game, and by underfarming you are setting your team behind willingly or not, thats 4 players having a bad experience playing the game because of you failing at what is considered your primary job in the role you play.
The guy won't have as much gold as me by csing because he's dead almost all the time, then I push and farm as much as I can or go gank other lanes. This way the guy is useless for the enemy team, they quickly lose a tower or two, game over.
***** You are wrong and here is why. If you fail cs but kill the player, he will come back, farm 2/3 waves and it will again be a 0-0 situation for you. BUT if you win cs and kill the player, you are making a boundary between you two that can not be overcome for the entire game. You must win both CS and kills.
By the third-fourth time you kill him he will worth about the same as a minion. Claiming that you have the same gold as the rest of the team 20 mins in game with 30-50 cs is simply not true, that unless you manage to kill him about 40-50 times.
Face it, you are bad at cs and you need to improve in that field.
***** He will be worth 50 gold. So no - you have to learn to CS or u'll be stuck in bronze forever.
League should cost money so that the majority of players would be old enough to have jobs. No middle schoolers and immature brats. Or at least many fewer.
Dota is free and their community is better.
Lmao never have i seen someone complain about something free
I'd spend money to save time on trolls and tards any day lol
so you think all middle schoolers are tards and trolls? so im platin 4 and middle schooler any question?!
So you're saying kids don't have money? I'll assure you they'd have at least $100
Thanks foxdrop! This video really helped me out because even though I'm not even ranked, I found myself still making this mistake.
Now I know why i suck :P
Muahaha sadly.. all this is utterly useless, my dear friend, when you're new to ranked.. and have to play with mostly greek players that simply DO NOT speak english.. which kind of leads to them picking toons they like even if they're last to pick.. then feeding their lane and after calling everybody noobs just logging off.. lol i downloaded lolreplay a couple of days back .. i could show you my like 8 rounds since then.. every single round at least one nerdraging feeder with 0/5-10 and then log off.. every single.. and at least every 2nd with another player noy loading in til like 15mins ingame.. then log in rush out. Die 3-4 times in like 3 minutes being say lvl 1 vs lvl10.. cursin' at the team and then logging off again. I started ranked after 10 initial rounds at bronze 3.. in last 2 werks dropped to bronze 5 .. and every single time i'd crawl a rank up i'll get a series of utterly retarfed teams like those mentioned to drag me down again. And who cares that say i'm a support as nautilus solo bot cayse our jinx ran into enemy and died under towet 3 times and then ragequit. I'd hold bot with 10/4 score solo vs2 also tabk for the team and cc.. but if my dear moron mid manages to feed say 0/6.. and top even worse with jungler never even logging in.. i cannot win 1vs fed team.. :)))it's a magical trap from which one can get out ONLY by creating a smurf.. getting to l30 and then running initial 10 rounds with xp already and simply NOT landing in that pile of retarded no english speaking pile of poles and greeks :))
Meaning this vid is helpful ONLY to those that are not in ranked yet..
change region and communicate positively with your team, even if someone (even you) is raging about gettin pwned, try to be the bigger person.. it pays off.
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so.. losing because somebody forgot they want to take a dump and just don`t bother playing at all or better yet nerdraging after intenseive feed start and quitting .. is my fault and "being a bigger man" saves the situation? or maybe there`s something to learn from that? dude.. do you read before posting or not really?
Its true. I also got into to that shithole but my advice is to change region seriuosly for some reason i got non retarted players i know it costs RP but you can also do a new account but i do think its very dumb that you have to do this to get out of it but its true.
Xamiakass did you actually read what i wrote or just skimmed? I never said its your fault that those things happen, i said AFTER you change regions, to comunicate POSITIVELY with your team.That alone will help you climb a league.
i know a greek who speaks English really well! He's also the best adc i've seen in my League of Legends carriere :P
You could probably add more about vision. You only mention it briefly near the end and I think buying wards and placing them in key locations is something that isn't done very often in low elo and could very often change the tide of the game.
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This is good advice considering how some people tend to be over confident bout their "skills" that they tend to forget basic mechanics and plays that require the team, especially in low elo solo q.
Well since there's not a lot of detail about items here. I'll say that Kayle can benefit from the ancient coin early on. Not as a push item. But taking her E ability and softening up creeps for a friend while making enough to survive on your own can be a life saver. Upgrading it as soon as possible is also an idea with this strategy. However you shouldn't stick to one lane when helping. Try to buff your allies on all sides. And remember to switch some allies can slow enemies, which is great for killing assassins, some allies have silencing which can devastate mages, some allies can burst damage which can crush tanks, and tanks can often survive a mere slowing.
But what do I know, I'm still basically a noob myself.
I have a really good one that I think was missed: Knowing when to go back!
I'm gold now but in climbing here, this was one of the most frustrating things I had to deal with (and still dealing with it atm)
By far the most common of these was after taking a quick inhib instead of quickly retreating before the enemy rushes them with homeguards, they would just start idling by the destroyed inhib, ocasionally farming the spawning minions, ocasionally taking pot shots at whomever on the other team just re-spawned, but basically get hard engaged with homeguard once their initiators / assasins are up, die, then give baron / drake / some towers / inhibs of our own.
Just thought it was worth sharing.
Tnx Foxdrop! I'm a silver elo player and your video made me realise A LOT of my mistakes. One of many is i tend to use 1 item build on Vi no matter what my or enemy team looks like. I'll work on it as hard as i can! Tnx again!
dragon is just a thing that is so much talked about in lcs that low elo players like myself start believing that its the world but they dont see that they sometimes give that up and just run straight down mid and get a tower
Just wondering in the video you said the Situational Priorities in game are:
1. Inhibitors
2. Baron
3. Towers
4. Dragon
5. Buffs
But I want to know where kills come in? Let's say there's a tower I'm attacking and there's also a free kill right next to me I see 4 enemy members coming to help defend it. Do I take the tower and run? Or take the kill? Or let's say it's a double kill?
I think Mistake 3 and 5 have the same reason:
People don't want to end it quickly because they like feeling powerful.
So they play in a way that drags the game out in order to reach level 18 and complete their item-builds in order to experience how powerful their characters can get.
So people going for drag instead of tower is not necessarily because they misjudge the value, it might also be because they want to drag out the game.
WONDERFUL! THANK YOU! Please tell me you have a season 5 version of this? I would especially like to know if your objectives rankings changed this season. Especially that Dragon now grants buffs and not gold. and if used correctly, Baron could be, in my opinion, worth 3 inhibs.
4:45 is so correct. People at my elo don't understand that turrets are more valuable than Drag. Now I just ping turrets and take them solo while my team gets drag. That should never happen. My team should always be pushing towers down and THEN, if they have time, killing dragon and getting those buffs. It drives me nuts.
One of the things that I fall victim to is poor positioning in teamfights. I constantly find myself in a bad place because I'm not paying attention to where I'm positioned.
I've played over 3000 normal games, only recently did i start playing ranked, got to Silver I in a few days, now a few games away from promotionals. The #1 reason why i lose games at the moment are people going afk/dcing, i can carry games where someone feeds, because after all that feeding they aren't that valuable to kill anymore and the enemy that got fed is easier to focus down because they get cocky. However i am literally sick and tired of someone just going afk while playing ranked, they should improve how banning works in soloq.
The last point you made out DRIVES ME INSANE, especially when I'm support.
Seriously, how hard is it to realize that you gotta take some initiative in taking objectives if you wanna get anywhere?
Is it weird that I like listening to you in background while playing league? Kind of helps.
ok, so I just started League in August of 2015. watching your vids, and other vids like these helped me out a lot. I completed my promos and I'm now in S3. I know, not a bid deal, but I didn't think I would hit higher than bronze 1. so thank you for these videos.
being a beginner it's really hard when you get matched against smurfs on your lane and you get blamed for the teams loss but i do admit i make a lot of mistakes at the same time so i really appreciate these tips!
even though everything in this is more or less true, it basically boils down to "be better at playing league". "Don't miss cc" isn't rally a tip to help people get better, its what you passively do as you get better. A tip to actually help would be something like, "know how much of a minions hp you take out in 1 hit and don't try to last hit until they are below that amount, instead of just attacking the lowest hp minion in sight" or "stay out of the enemy's tower range if your going to harass".
Watching this in 2k17. Still extremely relevant... And very interesting to see the old Rift and Jungle Camps :D
I remember smurfing in bronze 1 and we aced their team at ~30 mins. Both teams had 1 inhib down (mid). My team went for drag instead of baron. Then they backed defended our top inhib turret and bot inner turret WHILE OUR MID WAS PUSHED UP. Like seriously... wtf. We lost that game.
This was quite helpful, for the reason that it helped me understand that I'm actually significantly better mechanically and technically than most low elo players, despite having hardly ever played ranked games. The only mistake I could identify myself as doing was the poor positioning in teamfights. I'm quite guilty of that.
7:21 While the champions I'm scared of are Tryn and Malz, essentially the same thing applies. The thing is, I try to run like hell when I see them. They stop me and kill me anyway.
I once played with a party of friends, from the very beginning they told me to try support... from that day foward i couldnt play any other lane to try it out because it was "their" lane... and to top it all for every time they got caught i would get blamed for not warding or some other bullshit, they never admited their mistakes... and now i switched team and i am slowly trying to understand all lanes.
I do agree here, although I do have the skills of a bronze V player, after a day of LCS or major tournament or something, and I see a bunch of wannabes in games picking what is op. For example, people see pros picking Nidalee Jungle, Nautilus support or Urgot mid, people thinks that is op and must play that, Occasionally there are one or two people who are actually good, but the majority ends up failing at it. I play what I like, not what's op for the current meta.
Man, in my experience (even before S5), dragon was severely underrated. My teammates would often try to shove a lane towards an inner turret (and then try to take it) as the enemy team was respawning, instead of going for the dragon which would be nabbed without the enemy team capable of responding to it. My friends have gotten better about securing dragon in S5, but its still like pulling teeth. When I'm not jungling, they still see two kills in the bush as more valuable than the dragon in the hand.
i've wonlot of games where my team was about 10/40 etc. my team just gave up in champ select, but when they make one good teamfight, many people realize that this might work. i wish there is more ppl like that
I was always bad at teamfighting, the positioning. As a tank when to engage or disengage. And i only knew how to play a few champions although having all champions available. What helped me getting better at this game is playing Arams. You learn how to dodge skillshots while farming (sidenote: i got a bit worse than before at farming while still having about 60-80 cs at 10 minutes). And give yourself little challenges for example: every minute a minion kill or focus the carry all the time, no matter what or taunt the enemy team with a little ctrl+2/ctrl+3 so they might focus you in the next teamfight if you doing bad. Bad elo players tend to do so.
What it also a pretty common mistake it the poor use of flash/ignite/ghost etc. I find myself playing a ranked Bronze 4 game, and getting ignited with full health or find someone flashing to get a minion or just to stun me and then run away. People also use flash as a use of mobility just to get away, but it might be better using flash for walls or edges. One last thing : Never blame your team and flame it does NOT help.
Hey, Foxdrop can you make a video about item builds? Go over the principles of good item builds. I tend to see great number of players who build glass cannon with no good durability, sustain or defence. I have played a number of games with my friends who are good to a point but think that building any kind of defensive item is for 'tanks'. Point is they can dish out high damage but don't last long enough despite good personal mechanics and tend to 'fall off' the longer the game last.
Even as a really low elo player (lvl 22 on my main, not joking) All the things you said are so true! I have a friend who is Silver 1 ranked and we play together. Those games are less indecisive, whereas when I'm in solo queue my team often don't ping or even group together when we could win! I even had a friend who didn't know how to buy proper items. They literally bought Doran's stuff and pots for the first 25 mins of the game. They weren't trolling either... T_T
Thanks so much for the tips, they are really useful and I really, really need to improve on cs-ing..
Foxdrop is a boss. Everything I hear him say is so true and helpful. It's also awesome that he is humble about being as good as he is and still looking to improve as we all should be. Keep it up Foxdrop :D
Inhibs > Baron > Towers > Dragon > Buffs. I will use this strategy the next time. Thanks for the provided hints.
Well as a support when you have a friend as an adc who's also high ranked it means that they'll know to take advantage of opportunities (blitzcrank pull) and you're set up better in the long run.
i just got out of bronze recently. now that i rode draven out, im buckling down and trying to buffer out all the bad things in my game. thanks for this.
The build thing is extremely prominent, I play a lot of soraka and I get a few people asking me about it and asking me what I build, I never know what to tell them because my build changes every game. Then I get the question "well what do you build first" .. well again that depends on the game. Build guides are a good outline of what you should be aiming for but I think low elo people are led to believe that it's set in stone
Some people are so oblivious even when you ping them. Its so annoying when you pinged people to back off from a fight (at a disadvantage), and they flame you for not helping out.
I'm in S3 in NA... and I totally agree with people having Dragon as their Idol of worship in my ranked games... Go towers/turrets instead! ((people play better and in my normal queue T_T ))
I also cry on the "positioning" issue... people getting caught for chasing, or don't consider ult's like Vel'koz's and MF's when walking in a tight part of the map... I'm subscribing.
The last tip is true in so many of my games. It seems that even if I am going 22 and 6 with Draven, my team cannot close out the game. You have to force them to take objectives before baron, which should be a given in the first place.
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most of my champs that i try to learn nowdays and bough are champs thar aren't really played like yorick maokai zac,u get the point.Why i do this i think that people don't know how to play vs these champs.Nowdays i have pretty good stats whit yorick.People just don't know what should they do vs me.
One i find myself doing as well as other people, is this: Avery fed mid laner chasing a support through the enemy jungle, with no chance of catching him, later to be cought out by 4 people and be shut down, sometimes throwing games since it can happen at lvl18 leaving his team withio
ut his carry and 4v5 for a minute or 2