These "mental aspect" videos have been done to death. I'd really like to see more of advanced mechanics, getting a feel for properly last hitting, knowing when to push, things that players can practice and get good at so they can help carry themselves out of shit ELO.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player unless you already have a video of it already perhaps something about avoiding enemy wards, spots where enemy laners are likely to put wards, paths to take when you know where they are because I find that is a difficulty of mine when I'm jungling. Also I'd love to see a S5 Rengar jungle guide, he's one of my favorite champs :D
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player I would really like a video where you explain when and when not to push, and what to do when recalling. It's the thing i know i can't do properly but can't find a good video explaining what to do. Thank you if you do it ;)
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Again, don't know if you've made a video on the topic already or not (if you have would love the link), but a video on wave manipulation would be great. I'm in Platinum and I main top lane where wave manipulation is super important (since it is the "island"). I do a fairly good job of managing it, but I still find myself sometimes leaving top lane when it's slow pushing into the enemy tier 2 and I lose a lot of XP and gold to the enemy top laner who can team fight, recall, and catch the massive wave at his turret. Any tips you have for this (especially for bot lane where no one seems to emphasize this aspect of the game at all below Diamond I) would make a great video. I also understand if you're not the best at this topic because you main jungle, but if you think you can do it I would appreciate it.
Enjoy these tips! I'm sure you'll all be challenjour in no time. What do you currently do that you know you need to do better? PS, tulips are my favourite flowers but giving out my address online significantly increases my chances of getting murdered so I'm going to abstain.
Yes. That's the point. While I do appreciate this video's goal, all he talked about were abstract ideas that take lots of practice. In my opinion, there wasn't much substance in this video.
Teamfight mentality by division: -Bronze: Woo! killy kill pentakill time! -Silver: Woo! Teamfight, murder them all! -Gold: Woo! teamfight kill the carry!! -Plat :Woo! teamfight kill the carries! -Diamond: waaaaait this is a bad idea!
doddsydodds Carry mentality in teamfights: -Bronze: I'll focus the ... An ally has been slain! -Silver: Ok, I'll do damage. -Gold: Where's my peel? -Plat: Okay, I'll kite. -Diamond: I don't wanna, pls, go away!
Here's some tips Enemy Vayne is 3/0 and has a botrk? Probably not a good idea to 1v1 her with a pickaxe Ace the enemy team? Probably a good idea to push down a tower or inhib and not do wraiths Are you at full health? Probably not a good idea to randomly back to buy 1 amplifying tome No vision of baron or the enemy team? Probably not a good idea to walk to baron alone
I don't understand how people have a problem with this video. You can teach someone how to not suck at the game but you can never teach someone to be good. All you can do is guide them. This video is a guide.
I think one of the best points you made in this video is, "have future plans influence current actions." This idea seems to be so underrated in most players because most league players tend to play in the moment. Even if you don't take upon a shotcaller role, I feel that it is important to understand the fundamentals of creating situations where there will be room for opportunities to take an advantage/lead over the enemy team. I think people are underrating these things because it doesn't influence them mechanically as a player, but rather provides a foundation of how your mindset should be when playing League of Legends. Great video foxdrop!
*Immediately clicks on links for struggling to control frustrations and how not to tilt* I suspect my frustrations are easily the one thing that holds me back, and it is much appreciated for sharing your video on the subject. ;)
I suppose that is right. The other day I was playing with a bunch of friends, of different ranks (diamonds, bronze, not even lvl 30, silver..I am gold for reference) and I put a pink in a specific bush. My diamond friend says, who put this pink here? Only diamonds know about this trick... I was like :O Cuz I kinda learned it by just paying attention in streams or spectating and no one taught it to me specifically.
More people should watch this video, very solid points. The one i can't stress enough is the mindset one. People need to know that not all is lost because your opponent got 2 kills. I'm amazed how many high plat/low diamond players still think this.
3:33 If you're going to make a Pokémon pun at least do your research. Hitmonchan does not spin, nor does he learn Foresight. Hitmonlee learns foresight, but even he does not spin, Hitmontop does. Anyways, good day.
Dylan Hagey I said Hitmonchan instead of Hitmontop, my mistake. Funny thing is that I actually did do my research, and I went to look back at it and the twat wrote "Rapid Spin hitmonchan". I tried.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player except you're totally correct. Hitmonchan does learn the move 'Rapid Spin' and uses the move 'Foresight' to be able to Rapid Spin vs Ghost types and remove entry hazards from the field ^_^
This video is more about key points to work towards rather than exactly how to get better. It is still helpful because you have to ask yourself "how do I get myself to that point" rather then being told of a list of things you need to do in situations a, b, c, and d. Which there are a million situations you could be in. That sort of thinking leads you to be more independent. While you do need to work together it is important to learn how to make your own decisions and like you said it is a mind set. I hope other people will understand that. With that being said I don't view these as much as "tips" as I do mental milestones. If that makes sense. I do enjoy the points made in this video though.
JupiterLight Another note, now that you have covered a wide scope of what you need to work towards maybe you can make videos covering each point you've made here more specifically. Would be an easy way to get people to check out more of your videos. Say, at the end of this video you direct your audience in "How to know when to go into a battle or retreat" and videos such as that.
JupiterLight Well, all the situations in league can be easily manageable with only taking some quality normal o ranked matches. What do I mean with this? Starting to think more like when you are in laning phase and you wanna go to boy some items, but if you leave the lane he might take half of your 1st tower giving to his team a small advantage vs your team at top and jungle, they might go to mid bcuz your tower will be distroyed by minions so they can focus in the 2 remaining lanes. See what I did here? I made a way of how this can end. You know. The things in Platinum dont get very different of Gold. The thing that diference them is the mental part. They think all the probable ways to win either a trade or a teamfight. :) Hope this helped ya
The first two tips are bascially: "Don't suck at league, and if you do suck, stop sucking". At least, that is what it is if you're a complete noob like me.
Gonna put this out here, I'm stuck in bronze like many of the people who are going to read this comment, and I'm a support main. This point has beat to death, but I try to teach my teammates the proper things that they should be doing, like telling a behind adc to focus on csing, as I know they can't win a trade, and kind of being a command center toward the jungler by keeping proper vision and pointing out which lanes need help and are gankable whilst I'm walking to lane. This also helps me win more, but not enough. Flaming is not the answer.
Caballero Don`t recall, when you can get the cannonminion in the next wave. Also go back when you can actually buy something good and get a feel when you are going to get wrecked, if you are not going to shop a bit. Sry, I tried being as clear as possible, but stuff is vague. TLDR: Be good, want money but don`t be to greedy and always know what will happen before it happens. : P
one funny thing I learned from climbing from low elo to high elo was that bronze/silver players only know a bit of the champions in the game and almost nothing about stratagies, so they just fight and hope for the best. gold/lower-plat players know good and effective ways to finnish someone off in fights like saving abilities for the final blow. and high-plat/diamond players know almost exectly when they need to back off in fights or how to get away so that the final blow wont hit them. but that is ofc only one of the idk how many things that are different in every elo
+Young Gooby keeping an eye on the map , for example you know ur midlaner is at base buying something and bot and top arnt missing and u just saw their jungler is ganking top or mid , this is a very good time to rush the wave and try to roam if you can or back and buy something
+sunxnes If your teammate fed 0/10, then that means he doesn't give any gold. It would be worthless to kill them. Tell them to build tank, absorb some damage, suicide into the enemy team and the rest of you clean up.
+sunxnes Consider this: Every game contains you, 4 random teammates, and 5 random enemies. Assuming your play is consistent, as you are the only factor you can control and rely on, the chance of a player being so bad that they cost their team the game being on your team is only 4 out of 9. Therefore, over time, trolls, feeders and afkers statistically RAISE your elo higher than it would be if they never existed, as they are on your enemies team 5 out of 9 times.
Kyle Jacobs well, on paper that's how the math works, but not in solo queue. plus, this doesn't take into consideration that the enemy can be much better, you're on tilt, etc...
Rex-Movies The projectile speed isn't instantaneous like Nidalee's W dash on hunted targets. If J4 wasn't marked I think it might have reached in time.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Great video Fox, as always. Have you ever considered doing video breakdowns of other players, such as video submissions from viewers? For your public channel or just for 1 on 1 "coaching"? I think that'd be really entertaining
"free pink" a pink is only 100g and you can only place one. So if you want more wards you need to buy normal wards so you just spend 75g per ward. The other yellow trinket allows you to place 3 normal wards without needing to buying anything. That is 225g, that is more than 2 pinks in 3 minutes. Normally pink wards are used for nash/dragon or the defensive wards that stay longer than 2 minutes.
yeah and in a game with invis people, you will more than place 2 pinks the entire game- not saying everyone should get one obv, but someone always should. regardless, saying the pink trinket is useless is still stupid, situational yes, but not useless
I was hoping for more practical things when i clicked this video: Like knowing how much damage your combo does at X level, writing down timers, knowing how long it will take for the enemy to go from fountain to tower.
I hate it when Katarina players don't wait for all the enemy CC to be used before going in. They think that just because they're fed, they can become the engage, and don't keep track of timers and stuff.
Thanks Foxie! I already knew a lot of this stuff, my main problem is trying to learn how to carry without playing boring champions. Nearly every time I play Zac, my favorite champion, I get fed and have a 2-3 level advantage. I need to figure out myself how I can use that lead to boost my team into a huge snowball as well. Like right now what I do is I just initiate and assume my team will follow and do damage, then I realize that one of their guys are fed and can one shot my back line, and I throw the game. But I don't want to throw away my lead by letting the other team push for free while my team farms my jungle and is salty. I can't figure out what to do, because I can't peel if no one initiates. They seem to prefer running halfway across the map in 5v3's.
I guess this all ties in with knowing when to fight, but I feel like we need to fight before the 50 minute mark when our 3 inhibs are down and my team doesn't want them to get Baron so they all go on a chase.
A random player told me to know how long the range of the skills of the enemy and if your opponent use skillshots, do not stand in just 1 place. a very helpful tip
Most players that are good but still end up losing solo que games is because they are placed on a little too much tilt,so a tip is to think that whenever someone says something mean,those are just words,they cannot actually hurt you if you can take a punch (if ya know what I mean) so for an example there are two paths,one where you chose to argue and flame at someone and lose the game (because you are typing for 10000 years),or you could just not say anything at all and focus and play at your best to try win the game.
Fox these vids have helped me a lot in the 6 months I've been playing leauge i still have so much more to learn but im slowly making that climb from silver 5 made it to silver 3 today thanks :)
I love the vid man. As a master player some shit literally happens in ranked ques esp. when challengers and masters have to deal with a flaming diamond. God I really hate those flamers. I usually mute them then turn it back on when the game is coming to an end. But great vid man.
about the flaming thing: I play in high diamond, usually with diamond 1, masters and diamond 2-3's depending on how my mmr happens to be at the time, and when I play on my smurf to carry my friend up to plat/diamond, the difference in how much people flame is significant. In low ELO's, usually bronze to plat, people tend to flame alot, they blame teammates and refuse to accept the fact that they might have done something wrong aswell, and constantly blame teammates and think of themselves as this LoL god. My tip is, just ignore them, type "lol" and press ignore, and tell yourself: is the choice he's doing any good? if not, don't follow him... and by this I don't mean if your team starts doing baron, and you think it's, a bad idea, don't start split pushing or something. What I meant was, if this one player engage into a fight you don't think you can win, don't fight. If you're one of the guys who easily get annoyed: my tip is, play something else if you're on tilt... this is an online game, and people won't always play the way you want them to, and while them "sucking" might ruin your fun, flaming them ruins their fun. TL;DR: Don't flame, just let it go
Okay dear forxdrop i got a serious question to you: what do you do, if you are behind your lane opponent, who has an great kill pressure on you, but instead of helping you come back in the game, your own team even only comes to your lane to take your farm so that you fall even further behind? i am currently in Gold 5 (and hopefully rising soon) and still see this way to often that my own team plays against me rather then playing with me.
I wish this was more direct and explained examples of say, when to push, how to judge whether or not to go in/back out, etc. Essentially there was a lot of "Challenger players are experienced, intelligent, have good judgement, and don't have better temper control" and I didnt learn too much from this :\ I enjoyed watching your plays though lol
challenger players consistently have good mechanics, and dont miss opportunities. missing opportunities to make plays is the number 1 thing ive seen low-mid elo players do wrong. it IS a mistake if you miss dragon opportunities, baron steals, teleport ganks, and/or abuse a bad laning opponent. playing passively can cost you more games than aggression. if you're simply keeping even with players in sub plat, you have miles of room to improve. you need to be beating bad players badly. been in diamond since season 3, 1980 elo season 2. im no challenger player, but it's easy to tell when a player isn't up to par when he misses punishing my mistakes.
Nice video FD. I actually found it very usefull & and I have climbed imensly after I tried to "implement" these tips into my game. Alot of your tips, also gave me a lot of inspiration for further improvements so thanks man, Love your vids!
The major thing that separates high elo from low is knowledge of the game. Specifically knowledge of champ matchups and item powers vs each other. There's actually very little skill in LoL, compared to a game like CounterStrike.
One problem I have with this video is that many of the points are that Challenger players, "know," or they, "find ways," but it doesn't explain how they do or learnt these things. So this was more of a goal video than an actual video to help lower elo players like myself improve.
Agreed with a lot of the people below, these are things most players know and they will naturally improve the more you play. You don't really need someone to point these things out. Some concrete/practical examples would have been much better. I was expecting ward placement examples, or explaining why you shouldn't have your carries grouped up on objectives, etc, etc.
Play safe) half check Can make backs) check Do not have to told) check Reaction time) check Planing) half check Unaffected by toxic) check Team fight priority) check Timed recalls) half check Blame game) .....in a ranked game I can Time spend playing) 2470 solo Q matches
Most of these tips are true for just gaming in general. At least 6 or so of these tips can be applied to any other competitive game or even field. I remember a time when I used to play Dota 2, and people in one game were flaming like hell because we were losing. I kept a positive attitude the whole game, and we ended up winning.
The issue I have with this, as most people relate, is that many of these things come with expectations of your teammates to do the same. If you notice an enemy makes a mistake and noone else on your team does its very easy to headbut pulverize the enemy adc and instead of insta gib them, pop ult and run like hell cuz your in a 1v4. If you plan on taking drag in a minute and say drag one minute get wards in, and a minute later your adc is in base your time was wasted, so i'm not trying to complain but I have lost so many games by trying to be smart and won so many by see hero kill hero, I've given up on trying to play strategically, maybe if I ever make platinum.
Basically it is having extreme knowledge and experience in the game. Something that most players don't have access to because they just started playing the game 1-2 years ago.
I'd just like to say, that when u say 21/9/0 masteries. I would also like to know if you go for attack speed or cdr in the masteries. For champions like rek'sai, is attack speed more valued than cdr or vice versa.
Hey I just wanted to you what do you guys think of /mute all, I am just wondering if it helps you, it kinda boosted me from silver 2 to plat 4 under 2-3 months
"Challenger players avoid situation that put them behind" Oooooooooooooooooooh, I thought engaging on bad plays would win me the game, thanks Foxdrop! :)
BeekersSqueakers Obviously, that's a no brainer. Why not explain how to determine what is a good and bad situation? Otherwise, you might as well say 'Avoid the Noid' without even telling us what a Noid is. How can we avoid it, if we don't know how to recognize it?
Nathan Eason wait a second u called him mr. drop and he brought a tear to ur eye. Drop + Tear = Tear Drop Tear drops come from the eye Humans have eyes Humans has six letters Cancer has six letters My mom has cancer I hate myself
To all the people who are disappointed from the video: the video title should be perceived and comprehended exactly as it is written. It's NOT supposed to (and for that reason, not going to) teach you when and how to play around these mistakes/problems and how to solve them. It may not be very useful and helpful but it gives you an understanding of key things you should be focusing on and things to avoid doing in order to improve. Explaining every bit of this video and more specifically the ideas behind it would take atleast a good 30 minutes (if not more if we focus on every detail and go in-depth generally). I find it to have more of an entertaining purpose really.
Once the "I called them blacks" joke popped in, i knew i had to subscribe. And btw, really good advice, as i do struggle with keeping my temper in check with some of the toxicity of solo Q
Hey Fox! Could you link/post a wave managing video? Like explaining how to know when a lane is going to slow push, when its going to crash into your tower, etc etc? TY! :D
TLDR Version: #1 Don't die - It will put you behind #2 Don't give up - It's hard to comeback if you give up #3 Make correct decisions - Give up that tower if you can't defend it etc. #4 Don't waste time, every second counts, you need to be doing something that is causing your team to win, e.g. warding, farming, getting a gank off #5 Plan ahead for objectives etc. #6 Don't let negative teammates affect you, mute if needed #7 Have a plan for teamfights, eg. peel for adc, kill enemy midlaner, stop kata ulti etc. #8 Don't do bad recalls e.g. those that miss cs #9 Don't blame/flame teammates ofc! #10 Practice league a lot
If you start to fall behind in team fights and everything, quit engaging the enemy team. If an engage is being forced, poke as much as you can before hand. ADCs like Varus, Lucian, Miss Fortune, all have great long range AD pokes while champs like Lux, Xerath, Vel, have great AP pokes. A champion with half HP is a lot less likely to engage your team, or at least is easier to burst down afterwards. Favorable Junglers should be able to take dragon at any given notice. Dragon gives a huge advantage in a teams damage output, pushing, movement speed, and if you happen to get 5 dragon stacks then that advantage is doubled. That being said, it's the other teams duty to come to the jungler's aid if he's being invaded. Champs like Shaco, Fiddle, Nunu, Udyr, all like to invade and can make it difficult for your jungler. But if they get caught in your jungle they're basically free kills if you act quick enough. A good support is dictated by their skillset. You actually have to be useful for your adc in lane and carries late game. In lane, you want to be able to poke for your ADC. Champs like Sona and Nami are great for exchanging pokes because of their ability to heal themselves immediately after anyway, allowing for you to widdle them down to a more favorable fight. Also a good support should have utility in their skillset. Champions like Thresh, Leona, Blitz, and Nami, have multiple stuns and disrupts to help lock down an enemy champion. A pull or knock up or stun are great for slowing down retreating enemies, or slowing down gankers in lane. If you're going to play a high burst champ, build damage. Your job is to get in and kill one, maybe even 2 of their squishier champs, as quickly as possible. A good Zed or Kha can take out a squishy ADC or APC in a split second.
So I was just in a normals today trying a new build for j4 jungle and I ho mid to try and kill the enemy viktor but he bursts my diana mid and she is really low, less than 100 health, and I figure I ahould hold the lane harass viktor and the like then diana doesnt back statys to try and kill vik lee sin comes and ganks we both die and they both live then vik has a blue, and im curious of what I could have done because afterwards diana jept rrying to 1v1 him and died 4 times in the first ten minutes, my bot lane was always really pushed against the enemies and top was to far behind for me to help, so all I could do was farm, and because I couldnt get items I died whenever I got caught in a fight. Is there anything else I could have done?
7:25 how did that get into a stun? That shouldent happen even if the Nidalee was hit while jumping over the wall. Vayne was still in the wrong angle to stun Nidalle against the wall.
These "mental aspect" videos have been done to death. I'd really like to see more of advanced mechanics, getting a feel for properly last hitting, knowing when to push, things that players can practice and get good at so they can help carry themselves out of shit ELO.
Albert VanBennekom I do have a fair few of those already :) There are a lot of topics to cover though. What specifically would you want to see?
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player unless you already have a video of it already perhaps something about avoiding enemy wards, spots where enemy laners are likely to put wards, paths to take when you know where they are because I find that is a difficulty of mine when I'm jungling.
Also I'd love to see a S5 Rengar jungle guide, he's one of my favorite champs :D
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player I would really like a video where you explain when and when not to push, and what to do when recalling. It's the thing i know i can't do properly but can't find a good video explaining what to do. Thank you if you do it ;)
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Again, don't know if you've made a video on the topic already or not (if you have would love the link), but a video on wave manipulation would be great. I'm in Platinum and I main top lane where wave manipulation is super important (since it is the "island"). I do a fairly good job of managing it, but I still find myself sometimes leaving top lane when it's slow pushing into the enemy tier 2 and I lose a lot of XP and gold to the enemy top laner who can team fight, recall, and catch the massive wave at his turret. Any tips you have for this (especially for bot lane where no one seems to emphasize this aspect of the game at all below Diamond I) would make a great video. I also understand if you're not the best at this topic because you main jungle, but if you think you can do it I would appreciate it.
***** I'm not going to pay money to play League. I can learn from free sources, watching streamers, watching the LCS, and practice.
Enjoy these tips! I'm sure you'll all be challenjour in no time. What do you currently do that you know you need to do better?
PS, tulips are my favourite flowers but giving out my address online significantly increases my chances of getting murdered so I'm going to abstain.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player But what if the murderer also brought you tulips?
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Dayemm, I alrdy got the tulips....
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Ill come protect you foxie
DJSnoggn try being the suporter to the adc
Damian E o-o
video summary: play good, don't play bad.
Mitchell Pozar isn't that basically any game on the planet???
Yes. That's the point. While I do appreciate this video's goal, all he talked about were abstract ideas that take lots of practice. In my opinion, there wasn't much substance in this video.
Mitchell Pozar I was going to say this. He never said anything wrong, but most of his points were abstract without a good number of solid examples.
I completely agree. not that I'm hating on the video, I just didn't find it very useful.
Mitchell Pozar I absolutely agree with you
Teamfight mentality by division:
-Bronze: Woo! killy kill pentakill time!
-Silver: Woo! Teamfight, murder them all!
-Gold: Woo! teamfight kill the carry!!
-Plat :Woo! teamfight kill the carries!
-Diamond: waaaaait this is a bad idea!
doddsydodds
Carry mentality in teamfights:
-Bronze: I'll focus the ... An ally has been slain!
-Silver: Ok, I'll do damage.
-Gold: Where's my peel?
-Plat: Okay, I'll kite.
-Diamond: I don't wanna, pls, go away!
doddsydodds lmao! that was funny! :D
Here's some tips
Enemy Vayne is 3/0 and has a botrk? Probably not a good idea to 1v1 her with a pickaxe
Ace the enemy team? Probably a good idea to push down a tower or inhib and not do wraiths
Are you at full health? Probably not a good idea to randomly back to buy 1 amplifying tome
No vision of baron or the enemy team? Probably not a good idea to walk to baron alone
Plays brand gets reported for flaming
Ok thats too good :'D
bad luck brian
I don't understand how people have a problem with this video. You can teach someone how to not suck at the game but you can never teach someone to be good. All you can do is guide them. This video is a guide.
>challenger players
>see Keyori in the video
lol'd
I'm Not Onii-chan Still don't know who you are, if not onii-chan, who or whom >_>
It made my day idk why
I'm Not Onii-chan
>see Keyori
>close video
***** but that isnt onii-chan
I'm Not Onii-chan
>sees cancer in the comments
>tries not to think about it
>thinks about it
>gets cancer
_"And_ _it's_ _not_ _just_ _rapid-spinning_ *_Hitmonchans_* _that_ _get_ _a_ _lot_ _of_ _use_ _out_ _of_ *_foresight_*_,_" Well played sir.
I think one of the best points you made in this video is, "have future plans influence current actions." This idea seems to be so underrated in most players because most league players tend to play in the moment. Even if you don't take upon a shotcaller role, I feel that it is important to understand the fundamentals of creating situations where there will be room for opportunities to take an advantage/lead over the enemy team. I think people are underrating these things because it doesn't influence them mechanically as a player, but rather provides a foundation of how your mindset should be when playing League of Legends.
Great video foxdrop!
Good players also don't click to level up their spells they have keybinds ;), love ya!
GordanRamseyGaming have u seen foxdrop's fingers there so fat he would lvl the wrong ability each time.
Kappa
GordanRamseyGaming You spelled gordon wrong btw ;)
GordanRamseyGaming unique or is the default holding Alt good enough?
I use 1,2,3,4 to lvl up my abilities, but I have the weirdest keybinds known to man.
GordanRamseyGaming i'm diamond and i actually click to level up my spells
*Immediately clicks on links for struggling to control frustrations and how not to tilt*
I suspect my frustrations are easily the one thing that holds me back, and it is much appreciated for sharing your video on the subject. ;)
I'm going to fucking subscribe to this guy eventually on Twitch... These horrible jokes are the best in the world!
N Ruhrup Dont encourage him he reads the comments :p Surprised there wasnt any dick jokes this time.
Damian E Sorry if you feel shafted mate
N Ruhrup
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player I had to pause the video because I was laughing too hard at this comment.
Good one again Foxdrop, those educational videos addressing mentality for trying to climb ranked are rly helping.
VIDEO SUMMED UP:
KNAWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE.
GET IT.
That pokemon pun, I think I love you.
S E L A W Z
3:33 Although he is mistaken because Hitmonchan doesn't learn Foresight, Hitmonlee does.
technically yes but it's a pre evo move so it can still have foresight, it just can't learn it as hitmonchan.
S E L A W Z you two suck
Dylan Hagey I think I meant Hitmontop... fawk
NoR3m0rs3 Suck at being bad?
I agree.
how to be challenger: do the right things
TheLumpyBumper how to not suck: be good
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player /r/KoreanAdvice
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player so if i play good i cant suck anymore ;O
I love how you've slowly changed your youtube channel in the past months to now constantly take the piss out of us :D
"Challenger players know how/when to do this"
Doesnt explain how/when to do this
***** The first step is recognizing what the better players do. If you know what they do, all you need to do is practice yourself lol.
I suppose that is right.
The other day I was playing with a bunch of friends, of different ranks (diamonds, bronze, not even lvl 30, silver..I am gold for reference) and I put a pink in a specific bush.
My diamond friend says, who put this pink here? Only diamonds know about this trick...
I was like :O
Cuz I kinda learned it by just paying attention in streams or spectating and no one taught it to me specifically.
***** WHICH BUSH IS IT I MUST KNOW :D
***** because he's not a challenger player.
***** that's a pretty well known spot for a pink - i've seen silvers do that many times in the jungle.
More people should watch this video, very solid points. The one i can't stress enough is the mindset one. People need to know that not all is lost because your opponent got 2 kills. I'm amazed how many high plat/low diamond players still think this.
3:33 If you're going to make a Pokémon pun at least do your research.
Hitmonchan does not spin, nor does he learn Foresight.
Hitmonlee learns foresight, but even he does not spin, Hitmontop does.
Anyways, good day.
Dylan Hagey I said Hitmonchan instead of Hitmontop, my mistake. Funny thing is that I actually did do my research, and I went to look back at it and the twat wrote "Rapid Spin hitmonchan". I tried.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player at least you tried :D
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player except you're totally correct. Hitmonchan does learn the move 'Rapid Spin' and uses the move 'Foresight' to be able to Rapid Spin vs Ghost types and remove entry hazards from the field ^_^
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player It's the effort that counts. Nice video as usual. Thank you foxfox!
This video is more about key points to work towards rather than exactly how to get better. It is still helpful because you have to ask yourself "how do I get myself to that point" rather then being told of a list of things you need to do in situations a, b, c, and d. Which there are a million situations you could be in.
That sort of thinking leads you to be more independent. While you do need to work together it is important to learn how to make your own decisions and like you said it is a mind set. I hope other people will understand that.
With that being said I don't view these as much as "tips" as I do mental milestones. If that makes sense. I do enjoy the points made in this video though.
JupiterLight Another note, now that you have covered a wide scope of what you need to work towards maybe you can make videos covering each point you've made here more specifically. Would be an easy way to get people to check out more of your videos. Say, at the end of this video you direct your audience in "How to know when to go into a battle or retreat" and videos such as that.
JupiterLight Well, all the situations in league can be easily manageable with only taking some quality normal o ranked matches. What do I mean with this? Starting to think more like when you are in laning phase and you wanna go to boy some items, but if you leave the lane he might take half of your 1st tower giving to his team a small advantage vs your team at top and jungle, they might go to mid bcuz your tower will be distroyed by minions so they can focus in the 2 remaining lanes.
See what I did here? I made a way of how this can end.
You know. The things in Platinum dont get very different of Gold. The thing that diference them is the mental part. They think all the probable ways to win either a trade or a teamfight.
:) Hope this helped ya
The first two tips are bascially:
"Don't suck at league, and if you do suck, stop sucking".
At least, that is what it is if you're a complete noob like me.
+WizardXZD feels like 9/10 to me.
+WizardXZD thats what i got from it to XD
Gonna put this out here, I'm stuck in bronze like many of the people who are going to read this comment, and I'm a support main. This point has beat to death, but I try to teach my teammates the proper things that they should be doing, like telling a behind adc to focus on csing, as I know they can't win a trade, and kind of being a command center toward the jungler by keeping proper vision and pointing out which lanes need help and are gankable whilst I'm walking to lane. This also helps me win more, but not enough. Flaming is not the answer.
Can you maybe do a quick breakdown when to recall and when not to? I wanna improve my snowballing ;c
Caballero Don`t recall, when you can get the cannonminion in the next wave. Also go back when you can actually buy something good and get a feel when you are going to get wrecked, if you are not going to shop a bit.
Sry, I tried being as clear as possible, but stuff is vague. TLDR: Be good, want money but don`t be to greedy and always know what will happen before it happens. : P
xTofitaZz can I ask you to writhe that again but in a more formal english, I cant really undertand what you meant.
Thanks.
xTofitaZz ok then, just keep being toxic dumb french kid :)
Caballero Scarra is a great streamer that usually explains good back timings and almost always comments on why his backs are good/bad.
That rapid spin competitive pokemon reference at around 3:35 or so :P Fox drop is a badass.
Real Title: 10 Things to Remind you that you're still not in Challenger Tier
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So, the ad before the video is like 30 minutes long. I now know how to cook a home meal and make my own bbq sauce.
I find that just watching videos is a great way to get better.
I Like Apple-Pie......... and i like pumpkin pie
what does this have to do with league?
Joshua Schleifer What
Joshua Schleifer Dont fuck with pie man!
PIE MAN??? BRO I'M A HARDCORE MLG PASTRY MAKER, SO DON'T CONFUSED WITH THE FASCIST PIE MAKING NAZI
Joshua Schleifer bish plz.
one funny thing I learned from climbing from low elo to high elo was that bronze/silver players only know a bit of the champions in the game and almost nothing about stratagies, so they just fight and hope for the best. gold/lower-plat players know good and effective ways to finnish someone off in fights like saving abilities for the final blow. and high-plat/diamond players know almost exectly when they need to back off in fights or how to get away so that the final blow wont hit them.
but that is ofc only one of the idk how many things that are different in every elo
WHEN DO I PUSH???
+Young Gooby never
+Young Gooby keeping an eye on the map , for example you know ur midlaner is at base buying something and bot and top arnt missing and u just saw their jungler is ganking top or mid , this is a very good time to rush the wave and try to roam if you can or back and buy something
when 2 are at base and 3 are pushing on top, you push mid or bot depends where is the bigger minionwave
I absolutely love all of the references you use in your videos
"Better players are better"
better players have
brain
hands
quick reflexes
patience
tolerance
map awarness
80-100cs per 10 min
Very nice vid. I hit Masters in S4 with all of these tips in mind in some form or another. Good advice and good way of putting it!
What if your teammate fed 0/10 only 10 minutes into the game? Not that you cant come back from that but if you lose its pretty much their fault.
+sunxnes If your teammate fed 0/10, then that means he doesn't give any gold. It would be worthless to kill them. Tell them to build tank, absorb some damage, suicide into the enemy team and the rest of you clean up.
+sunxnes Consider this: Every game contains you, 4 random teammates, and 5 random enemies. Assuming your play is consistent, as you are the only factor you can control and rely on, the chance of a player being so bad that they cost their team the game being on your team is only 4 out of 9. Therefore, over time, trolls, feeders and afkers statistically RAISE your elo higher than it would be if they never existed, as they are on your enemies team 5 out of 9 times.
Kyle Jacobs well, on paper that's how the math works, but not in solo queue. plus, this doesn't take into consideration that the enemy can be much better, you're on tilt, etc...
Kyle Jacobs plus, badluck and match ups need to be considered too
'Rapid spinning hitmonchans getting a lot of use out of forsight' this is why i am subbed.
At 6:30 i think you could have ulted earlier to save jarven
you know I am challenger !
Rex-Movies The projectile speed isn't instantaneous like Nidalee's W dash on hunted targets. If J4 wasn't marked I think it might have reached in time.
Phillip Ward He had a 2 second window dude.
foxdropLoL - Be a Better League Player Great video Fox, as always. Have you ever considered doing video breakdowns of other players, such as video submissions from viewers? For your public channel or just for 1 on 1 "coaching"? I think that'd be really entertaining
#1 upgrading pink ward trinket when the enemy team has invisible champs (twitch/Shaco)
Garlic Bread No, mostly red trinket. Red trinket also reveals them but isn't as useless as pink ward trinket.
4289job red trinket is also good, but saying a free pink wards is useless is just dumb
"free pink" a pink is only 100g and you can only place one. So if you want more wards you need to buy normal wards so you just spend 75g per ward. The other yellow trinket allows you to place 3 normal wards without needing to buying anything. That is 225g, that is more than 2 pinks in 3 minutes. Normally pink wards are used for nash/dragon or the defensive wards that stay longer than 2 minutes.
yeah and in a game with invis people, you will more than place 2 pinks the entire game- not saying everyone should get one obv, but someone always should.
regardless, saying the pink trinket is useless is still stupid, situational yes, but not useless
I was hoping for more practical things when i clicked this video: Like knowing how much damage your combo does at X level, writing down timers, knowing how long it will take for the enemy to go from fountain to tower.
4:09 challenger players bribe league turrents
***** wow only noticed cuz you said that, weird!
Ruinous Wraith xD
***** its because the blitz wasnt under the turret with her, turret aggro only works if the target is in range of the tower too.
Dose before the tumble he was clearly in turrent range.
***** oh wow i do see it, huh strange
It's great that you add some humor in your vids, it makes your vids way more enjoyable! Piss & love
some good tips, but very generic. you could apply all your tips to literally any strategy game
I hate it when Katarina players don't wait for all the enemy CC to be used before going in. They think that just because they're fed, they can become the engage, and don't keep track of timers and stuff.
10 Things why... Nice try buzzfeed!
Thanks Foxie! I already knew a lot of this stuff, my main problem is trying to learn how to carry without playing boring champions. Nearly every time I play Zac, my favorite champion, I get fed and have a 2-3 level advantage. I need to figure out myself how I can use that lead to boost my team into a huge snowball as well. Like right now what I do is I just initiate and assume my team will follow and do damage, then I realize that one of their guys are fed and can one shot my back line, and I throw the game. But I don't want to throw away my lead by letting the other team push for free while my team farms my jungle and is salty. I can't figure out what to do, because I can't peel if no one initiates. They seem to prefer running halfway across the map in 5v3's.
I guess this all ties in with knowing when to fight, but I feel like we need to fight before the 50 minute mark when our 3 inhibs are down and my team doesn't want them to get Baron so they all go on a chase.
Tristan Sheckels Why..does your game last 50 minutes?
So.... Get good?
A random player told me to know how long the range of the skills of the enemy and if your opponent use skillshots, do not stand in just 1 place. a very helpful tip
You play with Keyori? Unsubscribed.
I guess to get good at League, instead of spending quality time with my family I need quality time with League. Thanks for the advice Foxdrop ^-^
I'd like to see a video where you explain what to do if your team can't teamfight, how to split push sucessfully, get picks etc.
Omg, that super subtle but amazing competitive pokemon reference.
Most players that are good but still end up losing solo que games is because they are placed on a little too much tilt,so a tip is to think that whenever someone says something mean,those are just words,they cannot actually hurt you if you can take a punch (if ya know what I mean) so for an example there are two paths,one where you chose to argue and flame at someone and lose the game (because you are typing for 10000 years),or you could just not say anything at all and focus and play at your best to try win the game.
Puns were on point this video, Phreak would be proud man, gj
Foresighting Rapid Spin Hitmonchan.
You into competitive Pokémon?
Foresight spinners is a legitimate thing.
Wow. I'm impressed Fox.
Fox these vids have helped me a lot in the 6 months I've been playing leauge i still have so much more to learn but im slowly making that climb from silver 5 made it to silver 3 today thanks :)
Can we get a full Alistar jungle video??? Would love that!
love the chat fight between keyori and vayne
I love the vid man. As a master player some shit literally happens in ranked ques esp. when challengers and masters have to deal with a flaming diamond. God I really hate those flamers. I usually mute them then turn it back on when the game is coming to an end. But great vid man.
about the flaming thing: I play in high diamond, usually with diamond 1, masters and diamond 2-3's depending on how my mmr happens to be at the time, and when I play on my smurf to carry my friend up to plat/diamond, the difference in how much people flame is significant. In low ELO's, usually bronze to plat, people tend to flame alot, they blame teammates and refuse to accept the fact that they might have done something wrong aswell, and constantly blame teammates and think of themselves as this LoL god. My tip is, just ignore them, type "lol" and press ignore, and tell yourself: is the choice he's doing any good? if not, don't follow him... and by this I don't mean if your team starts doing baron, and you think it's, a bad idea, don't start split pushing or something. What I meant was, if this one player engage into a fight you don't think you can win, don't fight. If you're one of the guys who easily get annoyed: my tip is, play something else if you're on tilt... this is an online game, and people won't always play the way you want them to, and while them "sucking" might ruin your fun, flaming them ruins their fun.
TL;DR: Don't flame, just let it go
Okay dear forxdrop i got a serious question to you: what do you do, if you are behind your lane opponent, who has an great kill pressure on you, but instead of helping you come back in the game, your own team even only comes to your lane to take your farm so that you fall even further behind? i am currently in Gold 5 (and hopefully rising soon) and still see this way to often that my own team plays against me rather then playing with me.
I wish this was more direct and explained examples of say, when to push, how to judge whether or not to go in/back out, etc. Essentially there was a lot of "Challenger players are experienced, intelligent, have good judgement, and don't have better temper control" and I didnt learn too much from this :\ I enjoyed watching your plays though lol
challenger players consistently have good mechanics, and dont miss opportunities. missing opportunities to make plays is the number 1 thing ive seen low-mid elo players do wrong. it IS a mistake if you miss dragon opportunities, baron steals, teleport ganks, and/or abuse a bad laning opponent. playing passively can cost you more games than aggression. if you're simply keeping even with players in sub plat, you have miles of room to improve. you need to be beating bad players badly.
been in diamond since season 3, 1980 elo season 2. im no challenger player, but it's easy to tell when a player isn't up to par when he misses punishing my mistakes.
Hey Fox, when exactly would you say is a good time to push then back? I'm never quite sure exactly
thoroughly enjoyed that slip in of that pokemon reference
Nice video FD. I actually found it very usefull & and I have climbed imensly after I tried to "implement" these tips into my game. Alot of your tips, also gave me a lot of inspiration for further improvements so thanks man, Love your vids!
The major thing that separates high elo from low is knowledge of the game. Specifically knowledge of champ matchups and item powers vs each other. There's actually very little skill in LoL, compared to a game like CounterStrike.
One problem I have with this video is that many of the points are that Challenger players, "know," or they, "find ways," but it doesn't explain how they do or learnt these things. So this was more of a goal video than an actual video to help lower elo players like myself improve.
Thank you for the video Foxy. This will definently help me in my ranked climbing XD
Agreed with a lot of the people below, these are things most players know and they will naturally improve the more you play. You don't really need someone to point these things out.
Some concrete/practical examples would have been much better. I was expecting ward placement examples, or explaining why you shouldn't have your carries grouped up on objectives, etc, etc.
Play safe) half check
Can make backs) check
Do not have to told) check
Reaction time) check
Planing) half check
Unaffected by toxic) check
Team fight priority) check
Timed recalls) half check
Blame game) .....in a ranked game I can
Time spend playing) 2470 solo Q matches
When is it a good time to recall while in laning phase?
And why did you buy both chinderhulk and sunfire for sejuani?
Most of these tips are true for just gaming in general. At least 6 or so of these tips can be applied to any other competitive game or even field. I remember a time when I used to play Dota 2, and people in one game were flaming like hell because we were losing. I kept a positive attitude the whole game, and we ended up winning.
The jokes in this video were so good XD want ot see more of this side of foxdrop
The issue I have with this, as most people relate, is that many of these things come with expectations of your teammates to do the same. If you notice an enemy makes a mistake and noone else on your team does its very easy to headbut pulverize the enemy adc and instead of insta gib them, pop ult and run like hell cuz your in a 1v4. If you plan on taking drag in a minute and say drag one minute get wards in, and a minute later your adc is in base your time was wasted, so i'm not trying to complain but I have lost so many games by trying to be smart and won so many by see hero kill hero, I've given up on trying to play strategically, maybe if I ever make platinum.
I love when you started talking about toxicity while playing with Keyori & friends.
Basically it is having extreme knowledge and experience in the game. Something that most players don't have access to because they just started playing the game 1-2 years ago.
These are great tips. I'm going to try to follow them more. Hopefully I improve.
I'd just like to say, that when u say 21/9/0 masteries. I would also like to know if you go for attack speed or cdr in the masteries. For champions like rek'sai, is attack speed more valued than cdr or vice versa.
Hey I just wanted to you what do you guys think of /mute all, I am just wondering if it helps you, it kinda boosted me from silver 2 to plat 4 under 2-3 months
"Challenger players avoid situation that put them behind"
Oooooooooooooooooooh, I thought engaging on bad plays would win me the game, thanks Foxdrop! :)
BeekersSqueakers Obviously, that's a no brainer. Why not explain how to determine what is a good and bad situation?
Otherwise, you might as well say 'Avoid the Noid' without even telling us what a Noid is. How can we avoid it, if we don't know how to recognize it?
what are good setting or tips to not play with auto-lock screen? cuz i cant do it my mouse mover to fast for me
i cant believe no one commented on the hitmonlee joke :D it was hilarious foxy, well done :D
I really needed to know the point about committing to decisions good or bad because I've notice I spend a lot of time walking up and down my lane
that Lin Kue reference, thanks Mr. Drop, brought a tear to my eye...
Nathan Eason wait a second u called him mr. drop and he brought a tear to ur eye. Drop + Tear = Tear Drop
Tear drops come from the eye
Humans have eyes
Humans has six letters
Cancer has six letters
My mom has cancer
I hate myself
well i love you
To all the people who are disappointed from the video: the video title should be perceived and comprehended exactly as it is written. It's NOT supposed to (and for that reason, not going to) teach you when and how to play around these mistakes/problems and how to solve them. It may not be very useful and helpful but it gives you an understanding of key things you should be focusing on and things to avoid doing in order to improve. Explaining every bit of this video and more specifically the ideas behind it would take atleast a good 30 minutes (if not more if we focus on every detail and go in-depth generally). I find it to have more of an entertaining purpose really.
When you said "whatever that's funny" lol that made my day , especially that i'm having a final exam in less than 2 hours :(
Once the "I called them blacks" joke popped in, i knew i had to subscribe. And btw, really good advice, as i do struggle with keeping my temper in check with some of the toxicity of solo Q
Hey Fox! Could you link/post a wave managing video? Like explaining how to know when a lane is going to slow push, when its going to crash into your tower, etc etc? TY! :D
Hey do you think watching replays of your games is a good idea or is it not needed ?
Why isn't the turret attacking Vayne at 4:08?
Dang, I like your stick figure fight intro. Reminds me of the flash animations I used to make!
TLDR Version:
#1 Don't die - It will put you behind
#2 Don't give up - It's hard to comeback if you give up
#3 Make correct decisions - Give up that tower if you can't defend it etc.
#4 Don't waste time, every second counts, you need to be doing something that is causing your team to win, e.g. warding, farming, getting a gank off
#5 Plan ahead for objectives etc.
#6 Don't let negative teammates affect you, mute if needed
#7 Have a plan for teamfights, eg. peel for adc, kill enemy midlaner, stop kata ulti etc.
#8 Don't do bad recalls e.g. those that miss cs
#9 Don't blame/flame teammates ofc!
#10 Practice league a lot
If you start to fall behind in team fights and everything, quit engaging the enemy team. If an engage is being forced, poke as much as you can before hand. ADCs like Varus, Lucian, Miss Fortune, all have great long range AD pokes while champs like Lux, Xerath, Vel, have great AP pokes. A champion with half HP is a lot less likely to engage your team, or at least is easier to burst down afterwards. Favorable
Junglers should be able to take dragon at any given notice. Dragon gives a huge advantage in a teams damage output, pushing, movement speed, and if you happen to get 5 dragon stacks then that advantage is doubled. That being said, it's the other teams duty to come to the jungler's aid if he's being invaded. Champs like Shaco, Fiddle, Nunu, Udyr, all like to invade and can make it difficult for your jungler. But if they get caught in your jungle they're basically free kills if you act quick enough.
A good support is dictated by their skillset. You actually have to be useful for your adc in lane and carries late game. In lane, you want to be able to poke for your ADC. Champs like Sona and Nami are great for exchanging pokes because of their ability to heal themselves immediately after anyway, allowing for you to widdle them down to a more favorable fight. Also a good support should have utility in their skillset. Champions like Thresh, Leona, Blitz, and Nami, have multiple stuns and disrupts to help lock down an enemy champion. A pull or knock up or stun are great for slowing down retreating enemies, or slowing down gankers in lane.
If you're going to play a high burst champ, build damage. Your job is to get in and kill one, maybe even 2 of their squishier champs, as quickly as possible. A good Zed or Kha can take out a squishy ADC or APC in a split second.
"rapid spinning Hitmonchans that get a lot of forsight" I didn't know you played Pokémon too foxy!
those mortal kombat puns were amazing
So I was just in a normals today trying a new build for j4 jungle and I ho mid to try and kill the enemy viktor but he bursts my diana mid and she is really low, less than 100 health, and I figure I ahould hold the lane harass viktor and the like then diana doesnt back statys to try and kill vik lee sin comes and ganks we both die and they both live then vik has a blue, and im curious of what I could have done because afterwards diana jept rrying to 1v1 him and died 4 times in the first ten minutes, my bot lane was always really pushed against the enemies and top was to far behind for me to help, so all I could do was farm, and because I couldnt get items I died whenever I got caught in a fight. Is there anything else I could have done?
7:25 how did that get into a stun? That shouldent happen even if the Nidalee was hit while jumping over the wall. Vayne was still in the wrong angle to stun Nidalle against the wall.
good stuff foxdrop grade A quality videos my good man
Fun video to watch and informative to listen to.