Amazing video. Whoever mixed sound on this video, knows what's He doing. We could hear engine and exhaust trough whole video, which is something all of us looking for.
Excellent review, mate. We currently have this beauty in our work shop so we've got some after market accessories on the way for this model. - Bash plate/engine guard - side luggage system - radiator guard - rear luggage rack. :)
Nicely done review. I considered one of these but ended up buying the Honda NX which I'm quite pleased with. The CF Moto might be more off road capable though. That doesn't bother me too much..the Honda's OK with lighter, gravel road sort of stuff and I'm happy with that. I think the NX motor's a bit less stressed. Lower compression ratio etc. I think that might help with motor longevity and the service intervals as more satisfactorily spaced as well.
What makes it ‘Entry Level’? Seems like a sensible bike for anyone to ride to me. I ride an AJP P7, which by your logic is ‘Pro Level’. Looks like this CF does exactly the same as the AJP and can go a lot further doing it.
This is like a mini Yamaha Tenere 700 / Aprilia Tuareg 660. The 450/500 "single" manufacturers are going to struggle against this if it proves to be reliable and well supported by a good dealer network.
13 kg lighter than the T7 and a lot less power. Much heavier than a ktm500 exc, or ktm 690, crf300 etc, the biggest advantage of the cf Moto is price and that’s its main selling point- it’s no light weight enduro bike
@@onerider808I had an oil pump fail in a uforce 1000 and locked the engine up. In a weeks time they had a new engine at the dealer and was put in 3 days later. They asked precisely 0 questions. I was without my machine for 3 weeks. Customer service is just fine darling
I've had my Z900 for 6 years now and have been looking for a second bike. I've never had an adventure bike before, but I did go off road with a colleague's bike and I love it. RE 450 seems like a good deal but it would be a big adjustment for me to go from inline 4 to a single. 😂 I'd definitely go for a test ride at my local CF Motor in Melbourne. Thanks for the video.
@Mademototrip We have the same bike too? Whoa. I did look at the Z900RS but couldn't justify to pay extra 5-6K for a daily commuter that I won't be cleaning every day. My plan is the Z900 as daily commuter and an entry level ADV like CFmoto 450MT. Later on is an electric with at least 10 kWh battery as daily commuter and perhaps a larger ADV by then.
About the overly sensitive fueling, I've seen on another channel of a guy also from Australia that adjusting the throttle cable play mostly fixes the issue.
I was looking into the service intervals and found that a lot of things are routine like oil and air filter, chain etc. Valves are 24000 miles tho. As is the BSA Goldstar
I don’t know about calling it “light weight”. Light weight is ktm 500exc. Heavy weight might be super tenere 1200. This would therefore be middle weight. My 1200 ninja with 200hp back in year 2000 weighed the same as this “lightweight” today. My xr600 with 45hp weighed 140kg back in the 90s. So 450mt is not really lightweight. But if calling it lightweight makes you happy, I’m happy for you 😅
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate well, not really. For instance, the Honda crf300 rallye is 150 odd kilos and does everything the 450mt can. It even costs the same
192 kg wet claimed. You'd need to take the bike to your local refuse station (recycle station) & put it on the weigh bridge to confirm it's weight. It certainly didn't feel like 200 kg as that was the weight of my Himalayan.
Good video. Did you consider the RE Himalayan 452? A mate bought it and loves it. He also had one of these on order and cancelled this when he could get RE earlier. Both seem great bikes for the money in their class.
I test rode one of these and honestly don't see the hype. There seems to be a lot of happy owners which is good but I also feel like they haven't ridden many other bikes to compare this to. Sure, it might be good value but that doesn't mean it's actually a good bike.
@@TheDowness If you want to buy something new around 10K that's considered an adventure bike. Ready to go almost out of the box, there isn't a whole lot of competition. That said, if anybody is considering this bike, ride a Tenere 700. Yes it's more expensive but there are clean used examples out there.
You get what you are paying for plus few nice surprises, that was my feeling after the test ride. Not many new bike give you that sort of feeling now days.
Have you tried to adjust the throttle cable from the handlebar? Maybe they don't come perfectly balanced in that regard and that's the jerkiness that you and everybody feel, if you've had experience with other bikes, it should be identifiable.
DJ I have the CL-c 450 and adjusted my cable, it helps but it’s still twitchy unfortunately. Fine at higher speeds but hard to modulate around town in lower speeds. I find going a lower gear and revving makes it easier but not ideal.
@@MademotoADV look up a vid on throttle tamers, that will be the fix you can get plastic ones for around $30 with 5 cams to give different throttle feel👌 thes lads had me looking 😀
It puts out similar power & torque & even weight to a KLR650 . But it seems more manageable & flickable . I guess the new twin cylinder engine carries the weight lower?
i can literally hear and see that poor fueling just through this video, the way youre dragging the clutch proves that point. im sure they will release a software update as ive heard many people complain about this issue
Didn't even notice I was dragging the clutch that much -- that to be said, I learnt this simi-engage cluth action from my days with the old Ducati Monster...
@@MademotoADV They cannot do anything to fix the problem, it will need an aftermarket map loaded into the ECU as they are tuned to meet emissions, the very lean fueling at low revs (likely coupled with a fuel cut at fully closed throttle) makes them snatchy in on/off throttle application. It's a common problem across the majority of modern bikes. On the bright side, you'll need to map it if you change the exhaust to something a bit more free flowing so it's worth saving up to do both things at once (I know a few places are currently developing maps) ;-)
CFMoto will NEVER address the mapping issues, that's because you are riding a motor by KTM which was meant to be in the Duke 490 and since it's part of the Duke family, it follow BS6 emissions standards which is why it's jerky and has throttle lag. The only way to fix it is to buy a O2 Sensor mod or a piggy back ECU like one from RapidBike. You'll have to wait til RapidBike gets hold of one of these bikes for them to release a update for their RapidBike Easy (O2 Sensor mod) or the RapidBike Evo (Piggy back ECU). I'm glad I cancelled my order for the CFMoto 450MT since lots of reviews report it having the same throttle lag/jerkiness issues. I have a Duke 390 so I know all bout it. On a better note I'll probably end up getting a CFMoto 800 MT-X instead of this.
hi bro, beginer rider here, i am torn beetwen new cfmoto450mt for 6000usd , or used himalayan 411 2022 with only 1000kms for 4000 usd .. I love the look of himi, i am only concered about power, will it be fun for ride .. Thanks
Nice review.. thanks, Can you please elaborate on what modifications or addons are needed for serious off-road ? . what stopped you from ordering one ? and.. please share your helmet brand and model.. thanks again.
@@MademotoADV If you want to ride anything where you're likely to bottom out on a rock or want to hop logs you'll need to upgrade the bashplate... B&B are finalising their design currently, it looks very good and has added support to avoid relying solely on the stock mounting tabs. Another thing to consider is a high front guard if you ever ride mud (especially clay) as knobby tyres pack with mud and jam up on low guards.
@@racebiketuner Depends what sort of off-road you want to do and how much mixed riding you do. The 690 is a prick on the highway, this thing isn't suited for single track... Horses for courses. Not to mention the 690 costs twice as much!
A few things to consider... It's $9.5k, that's priced way below anything equipped this well and making things of a lighter material costs extra $$. The Tenere 700 is claimed to be 205kg but it's a slightly larger engine, and twice the price. There's very little else to compare it to in the market, most of the other small capacity "ADV" bikes are built like toys.
Almost 200 kg aint really lightweight might as well just get the tenere 700 or the tuareg 660 since it's nearing it's weight class. The ktm 390 adventure then is light
Because it's not normal.. It's because it has ride by wire and BS6 emissions standards, the other bike that has that in the class is the Duke 390 which has this same issue , KTM also designed the motor for the 450-MT. It was meant to be in the cancelled Duke 490. The only fixes for it is to get a O2 sensor mod or a piggy back ECU like the RapidBike Easy or RapidBike Evo.
@@geertwanten1841 because why would you ride around with shit fuelling when it could be smooth right off idle? My fz6 had terrible low rpm fuelling, exu flash mad it butter smooth. Safer and nicer
Anyone comparing this to t7 is just clueless... It first has to endure 5-10 years of dirt riding and on road without major issues... Then you can start comparing it to a t7 and the cp2 engine. I have no doubt in my mind that this engine will not be as reliable as the cp2. Infact the cp2 in Tenere is one of theee most reliable engines ever built by a human. Chinese quality, maybe can be archieved, but chinese customer service is just horrendous beyond imagination. Long ways to go for cfmoto
Obviously you don't ride enduro. You have a bad position on the motorcycle. I dont know how you could test this bike on the lawn and describe it as offroad?!
Thank you for your honesty. The training in off-road school, helped me a lot, off-road driving training is organized in Poland. I recommend such training, it gives you self-confidence and safety.
Just when C MOTO gets going electric bikes Will put them in the back again.. japanese bike companies are focusing on battery power gas is coming to the end.... All the other companies that are getting into E power are getting started when E Moto is going gas....and that's the wrong Way to go......
Amazing video. Whoever mixed sound on this video, knows what's He doing. We could hear engine and exhaust trough whole video, which is something all of us looking for.
Cheers! I had to turn down the volume of the engine sound because it was VERY LOUD! 😄
@@MademotoADV How did you record audio on the bike?
@@MademotoADV you did great job.
Finally! A proper ADV bike for small framed people! Awesome review!
More to come!
Excellent review, mate. We currently have this beauty in our work shop so we've got some after market accessories on the way for this model.
- Bash plate/engine guard
- side luggage system
- radiator guard
- rear luggage rack.
:)
Someone is taking it for seriouse adventure trip I recon!
Nicely done review. I considered one of these but ended up buying the Honda NX which I'm quite pleased with. The CF Moto might be more off road capable though.
That doesn't bother me too much..the Honda's OK with lighter, gravel road sort of stuff and I'm happy with that.
I think the NX motor's a bit less stressed. Lower compression ratio etc.
I think that might help with motor longevity and the service intervals as more satisfactorily spaced as well.
Good choice! There isn't a perfect one just the right one suit your current riding style.
What makes it ‘Entry Level’? Seems like a sensible bike for anyone to ride to me. I ride an AJP P7, which by your logic is ‘Pro Level’. Looks like this CF does exactly the same as the AJP and can go a lot further doing it.
Yeah I would say your AJP is a Pro Level bike for sure! 😄 My thought was the cost of purchase (Price) as the defination of "Entry Level"
This is like a mini Yamaha Tenere 700 / Aprilia Tuareg 660. The 450/500 "single" manufacturers are going to struggle against this if it proves to be reliable and well supported by a good dealer network.
13 kg lighter than the T7 and a lot less power. Much heavier than a ktm500 exc, or ktm 690, crf300 etc, the biggest advantage of the cf Moto is price and that’s its main selling point- it’s no light weight enduro bike
Lol, not much experience with Chinese “quality” snd “customer service”, huh?
@@onerider808yea but CF moto benelli Lifan QJmoto they are better quality.
I dont know about west. But in Asia they have better customer service
@@onerider808 they own about 49% of ktm so quality and engineering is similar quality
@@onerider808I had an oil pump fail in a uforce 1000 and locked the engine up. In a weeks time they had a new engine at the dealer and was put in 3 days later. They asked precisely 0 questions. I was without my machine for 3 weeks. Customer service is just fine darling
Nice bike and good video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Just ordered mine, cant waaaait 🤯
Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated 👍
Thanks for watching
What would you consider the top cruising speed during 3 hs, non stop? I need to cross (3,000 kms) the Patagonia with no speed limit. Thx
They can expand on this model doing a 17"/19" size tires , smoothing out mapping and have 2 excellent models .
Please review this bike on proper trails because it's impossible to review this category of bike without doing so. Thanks for sharing
Check out "Nathan the postman" about this Bike.👍🇬🇧
I've had my Z900 for 6 years now and have been looking for a second bike. I've never had an adventure bike before, but I did go off road with a colleague's bike and I love it. RE 450 seems like a good deal but it would be a big adjustment for me to go from inline 4 to a single. 😂
I'd definitely go for a test ride at my local CF Motor in Melbourne. Thanks for the video.
Best of luck! I had Z900RS and I am sure you will get use to the twin in no time.
@Mademototrip We have the same bike too? Whoa. I did look at the Z900RS but couldn't justify to pay extra 5-6K for a daily commuter that I won't be cleaning every day. My plan is the Z900 as daily commuter and an entry level ADV like CFmoto 450MT. Later on is an electric with at least 10 kWh battery as daily commuter and perhaps a larger ADV by then.
About the overly sensitive fueling, I've seen on another channel of a guy also from Australia that adjusting the throttle cable play mostly fixes the issue.
Thanks!
what brand and model of your helmet? thanks
man such a good review. definiterly subscribing
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
My pleasure!
Great review. Only thing stopping me putting cash down is insanely short service intervals
I was looking into the service intervals and found that a lot of things are routine like oil and air filter, chain etc. Valves are 24000 miles tho. As is the BSA Goldstar
Thanks! I haven't thought about servcie when doing the review, good point.
I heard Air Filter is very easy to access, just under the seat.
The service intervals are perfectly realistic, I wouldn't let them dissuade you at all :-)
what´s the cruising speed? max speed? thanks!
Great video with superb sound ☝️
Glad you enjoyed it
I don’t know about calling it “light weight”. Light weight is ktm 500exc. Heavy weight might be super tenere 1200. This would therefore be middle weight. My 1200 ninja with 200hp back in year 2000 weighed the same as this “lightweight” today. My xr600 with 45hp weighed 140kg back in the 90s. So 450mt is not really lightweight. But if calling it lightweight makes you happy, I’m happy for you 😅
That's a good point. With wet weight approching 200kg, it should belong to the middle weight category.
The ktm 500exc is a one cylinder enduro bike that costs almost double if I'm not mistaken. This is a 2 cylinder bike that costs 5k euros.
@@rationalityfirst aaaahhh, the topic is weight, and the definition of “lightweight”, not price. Try to keep up 🤷♂️
@@superwag634the thing is, the lighter, the more expensive
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate well, not really. For instance, the Honda crf300 rallye is 150 odd kilos and does everything the 450mt can. It even costs the same
Good enough for me to tackle bad roads or any routes.
Thanks!
Top job on the review mate.
Thank you !
Are your boots armored motorcycle boots? They look really good, do you know where I could get some boots like that?
this one:
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192 kg wet claimed. You'd need to take the bike to your local refuse station (recycle station) & put it on the weigh bridge to confirm it's weight. It certainly didn't feel like 200 kg as that was the weight of my Himalayan.
Agreed. It felt much lighter than my Himalayan as well.
U mean 450 or 411 Himalayan?
Someone put it on a couple scales a couple months ago. It was 192-193 kg wet.
That's so cool, love your moto
Thanks!
@@MademotoADV Just wanna know if you open to do a cooperation?😃
If you add crash bars, centre stand, (it’s already over 200kg) so getting heavier than the RE 450 by the minute!
Can the bike wheelie?! Sorry but i judge bikes based on that lol. It says alot! 😂❤
Very good presentation of the CF Moto. How good or bad are the standard tires? In some tests they are rated poorly in the rain.
They are decent on the dry pavement, enough for light offroad. Didn't get chance to ride in the rain though.
Good video. Did you consider the RE Himalayan 452? A mate bought it and loves it. He also had one of these on order and cancelled this when he could get RE earlier. Both seem great bikes for the money in their class.
I am planing to have a test ride on the new Himalayan and hopefully a review view after the ride. Stay tuned!
I have the Honda CB500X and this thing looks like a way more fun bike to ride
Excellent review. Video and sound brilliant.Keep it up.
Glad you liked it!
This engine has already been tested on their other models but with a different setup
Not a bad video but I would be sorting your loose boot laces out before you have a incident. Sounds pretty good too. Pretty sure there 175 kg dry
Thanks, I didn't even noticed untill I got home!
@@MademotoADV glad you got home safe
Top MT 450 👌🎯💯
I test rode one of these and honestly don't see the hype. There seems to be a lot of happy owners which is good but I also feel like they haven't ridden many other bikes to compare this to. Sure, it might be good value but that doesn't mean it's actually a good bike.
it's value for money that's it. Not a overpriced bike again launch on the market
@@TheDowness If you want to buy something new around 10K that's considered an adventure bike. Ready to go almost out of the box, there isn't a whole lot of competition.
That said, if anybody is considering this bike, ride a Tenere 700. Yes it's more expensive but there are clean used examples out there.
You get what you are paying for plus few nice surprises, that was my feeling after the test ride. Not many new bike give you that sort of feeling now days.
It looks and sounds really good very impressive from the Chinese 👍
It was a beautiful sound engine.
I'm waiting for the dealer to get one in the us
Have you tried to adjust the throttle cable from the handlebar? Maybe they don't come perfectly balanced in that regard and that's the jerkiness that you and everybody feel, if you've had experience with other bikes, it should be identifiable.
I had the same jerkiness on a 2022 CFMoto 800MT which is ride by wire. I suspect this is an issue with this manufacturer.
DJ I have the CL-c 450 and adjusted my cable, it helps but it’s still twitchy unfortunately. Fine at higher speeds but hard to modulate around town in lower speeds. I find going a lower gear and revving makes it easier but not ideal.
Is there a mapping update for it?
the "Jerkiness" brought me back to my days with the 2011 Ducati Monster 696... On the road, you kind of get used to it.
@@MademotoADV look up a vid on throttle tamers, that will be the fix you can get plastic ones for around $30 with 5 cams to give different throttle feel👌 thes lads had me looking 😀
澳大利亚人均都是0:08这样的居住环境吗？环境确实很漂亮。
郊区是这样
I always said there is no such thing as a bad motorcycle. Currently re-thinking that…
Aprofessional presentation making for a good informative viewing.
Appreciate!
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It puts out similar power & torque & even weight to a KLR650 . But it seems more manageable & flickable . I guess the new twin cylinder engine carries the weight lower?
Yeah good point!
what is the average fuel consumption?
i can literally hear and see that poor fueling just through this video, the way youre dragging the clutch proves that point. im sure they will release a software update as ive heard many people complain about this issue
Didn't even notice I was dragging the clutch that much -- that to be said, I learnt this simi-engage cluth action from my days with the old Ducati Monster...
Politics aside Sinophobia aside this looks damn good
They didn't address the mapping issue in the 800T so I don't expect them to fix it on the 450! I want one though
It's stange that they didn't do anything to fix the problem.
@@MademotoADV They cannot do anything to fix the problem, it will need an aftermarket map loaded into the ECU as they are tuned to meet emissions, the very lean fueling at low revs (likely coupled with a fuel cut at fully closed throttle) makes them snatchy in on/off throttle application. It's a common problem across the majority of modern bikes. On the bright side, you'll need to map it if you change the exhaust to something a bit more free flowing so it's worth saving up to do both things at once (I know a few places are currently developing maps) ;-)
CFMoto will NEVER address the mapping issues, that's because you are riding a motor by KTM which was meant to be in the Duke 490 and since it's part of the Duke family, it follow BS6 emissions standards which is why it's jerky and has throttle lag. The only way to fix it is to buy a O2 Sensor mod or a piggy back ECU like one from RapidBike. You'll have to wait til RapidBike gets hold of one of these bikes for them to release a update for their RapidBike Easy (O2 Sensor mod) or the RapidBike Evo (Piggy back ECU). I'm glad I cancelled my order for the CFMoto 450MT since lots of reviews report it having the same throttle lag/jerkiness issues. I have a Duke 390 so I know all bout it. On a better note I'll probably end up getting a CFMoto 800 MT-X instead of this.
Thanks for the input, I am sure this will be useful to someone who is interested to address this issue on their own.
They updated the throttle mapping issue already via their T-Box and their app. You can check out some of the YT videos out there on the update.
hi bro, beginer rider here, i am torn beetwen new cfmoto450mt for 6000usd , or used himalayan 411 2022 with only 1000kms for 4000 usd .. I love the look of himi, i am only concered about power, will it be fun for ride .. Thanks
Personally I will stay away from 411... they are dog slow and will keep losing resell value becacuse of the new Himi 450.
Also they have a lot of issues
Your voice is difficult to hear and understand with all the background noise in the video.
thanks for let me know, I will make sure to improve for next one
love what they did with this bike but the mega short service intervals is a major turn off for me. Every 6 months or 5000 km ?! WHAT?!
my last kawasaki z900rs require servcie at every 6000km and I thought that was short, until I saw this 5000km :)
Nice review.. thanks,
Can you please elaborate on what modifications or addons are needed for serious off-road ?
. what stopped you from ordering one ?
and.. please share your helmet brand and model..
thanks again.
Mods would be
strong handgurad -- stock is plastic
Engine Cases, Luggage Rack; Higher seat; Better Tyres, potentially larger/better skid plate...
@@MademotoADV If you want to ride anything where you're likely to bottom out on a rock or want to hop logs you'll need to upgrade the bashplate... B&B are finalising their design currently, it looks very good and has added support to avoid relying solely on the stock mounting tabs. Another thing to consider is a high front guard if you ever ride mud (especially clay) as knobby tyres pack with mud and jam up on low guards.
No amount of mods would make this suitable for off road. Buy a KTM 690 and be happy.
@@racebiketuner Depends what sort of off-road you want to do and how much mixed riding you do. The 690 is a prick on the highway, this thing isn't suited for single track... Horses for courses. Not to mention the 690 costs twice as much!
@@krazed0451 He's just another KTM Kunt. They get triggered by people giving attention to other brands doing it better.
200kg for a 450cc?
That's to mutch weight
It's 175 kg dry weight… Fuel capacity 17,5 liters, so with full tank and oil and coolant is around 200 kg.
Pretty much standard at it's class -- 390ADV would be lighter but that's a single.
It actually feels lighter than indicated.
A few things to consider...
It's $9.5k, that's priced way below anything equipped this well and making things of a lighter material costs extra $$. The Tenere 700 is claimed to be 205kg but it's a slightly larger engine, and twice the price. There's very little else to compare it to in the market, most of the other small capacity "ADV" bikes are built like toys.
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSateWhen u finely stop writing BS "feels lighter"? When u ride engine helps in some way so all motorculycles "feels lighter".
me watching this review eventhough i cant afford this bike yet
Good presentation of the bike but you still have to work on the gear downshifting.😉
who need downshift when you can slide the rear wheel!
Cf moto 450mt or bmw f800gs(used) at the same price and why?
Buy japanese.
@@michaelbmw1931 you mean chinese? (Cf moto)
Mate, you should blur out your speed. You are license gone in most of those areas.
🤫 yeah...
I'm 175 cm but I ain't 5'7" 🤷
Almost 200 kg aint really lightweight might as well just get the tenere 700 or the tuareg 660 since it's nearing it's weight class. The ktm 390 adventure then is light
True for that.
Wating for this bike in Brazil!!!
Hope you will have fun on it!
We have ktm and himalayan in india.
450cc will result in permanent gear shifting. This is not about "power" but flexibility. 500-550cc is required.
That's fit to all current 300-450cc entry level motorcycles.
not really...i have this bike and in 5th gear you can stay from 40-45kmh to 80kmh easly not need gear shifting
Why is everyone always complaining about the mapping. Just get used to it and learn how to drive it 🤷♂️
I have the CLX 700 and I agree with his comments that the throttle is a bit too sensitive.
It’s all about using the clutch not the throttle 😆 I agree with you.
Because it's not normal.. It's because it has ride by wire and BS6 emissions standards, the other bike that has that in the class is the Duke 390 which has this same issue , KTM also designed the motor for the 450-MT. It was meant to be in the cancelled Duke 490. The only fixes for it is to get a O2 sensor mod or a piggy back ECU like the RapidBike Easy or RapidBike Evo.
@@geertwanten1841 because why would you ride around with shit fuelling when it could be smooth right off idle? My fz6 had terrible low rpm fuelling, exu flash mad it butter smooth. Safer and nicer
Noy good bike?
Noy
is your speedo in kmh or mph?
it was kmh
175cm is 5ft 9in.
thanks!
I'm 1'88m tall, Would it be a litle bit lower with the standar seat?
Thank you so much
No wheelie? Waste of time watching this
after few years you’ll see the “top” quality 😂
Judging from the 650MT I've owned, I'd say the same lol
Was it bad??? @@beefbaby161
@@beefbaby161 what happened? Is it still good or falling apart
Stop propaganda bro 😂 4 years warrenty. My yamaha have only 2
3/4 of this world cannot afford a European and Japanese adventure bike.
Anyone comparing this to t7 is just clueless... It first has to endure 5-10 years of dirt riding and on road without major issues... Then you can start comparing it to a t7 and the cp2 engine. I have no doubt in my mind that this engine will not be as reliable as the cp2. Infact the cp2 in Tenere is one of theee most reliable engines ever built by a human. Chinese quality, maybe can be archieved, but chinese customer service is just horrendous beyond imagination. Long ways to go for cfmoto
I am on the fence as everyone else regarding the reliablity and resale value. I guess time will tell!
tenere cheap copy
Obviously you don't ride enduro. You have a bad position on the motorcycle. I dont know how you could test this bike on the lawn and describe it as offroad?!
No, I don't ride enduro and I just started trying out adventure riding. What is this bad position you are referring to?
Your review was helpful, period. Don’t listen to the haters.
Thank you for your honesty. The training in off-road school, helped me a lot, off-road driving training is organized in Poland. I recommend such training, it gives you self-confidence and safety.
Just when C MOTO gets going electric bikes Will put them in the back again.. japanese bike companies are focusing on battery power gas is coming to the end.... All the other companies that are getting into E power are getting started when E Moto is going gas....and that's the wrong Way to go......
Can no one stop these blatant rip-offs of real bikes?
Why do you have to rev the bike chapri.
Try going slow in places to give proper review of the motorcycle. Such a nice bike but you ruined it.
Just another heavy, slow street bike with wide bars and a rally fairing.