Just did the first 1000 km here in Poland. Yep great bike but...... It has short gearing, 125 indicated (120 gps) you are at 7000 rpm with 8500 red line. I have already installed 15T front sprocket, that drops the rpm about 500. The fueling off idle is not great (thx euro whatever it is). Throttle cable adjustment helps, but a good tune is the real solution. The exhaust is actually on the loud side, ok I guess I am old. Skid plate is paper thin. Mix riding computer shows 3.7/100, refueling math shows 4.0/100. Hope this helps someone.
@lucaconte7812 We actually have 2 mt450s, my friend and I. My has 15t, his still 14t, so I have back to back comparison. The 15t, "calms" the bike donw a little bit, the 14t is obviously bit livelier..........15t does drop the rpm around 500 for any given speed, it's not a huge difference. With both setups, the engine pulls well everywhere. For city riding, this bike would be great. It will do 120-130 with 14 or 15, but the motor is up there in rpm. Doing this for 500 or 1000km.........most likely is fine, it just feels bit "wrong" for me. This is no longer a "dirt bike", yet most reviews are mostly in the dirt. I think it's a miss on CFMOTOs part with the 5th and 6th gear. They should have made them taller, in my opinion. There is plenty of power in the engine. It is a good bike, all the features are awesome, quality is 90% Japanese......The Royal Himalayan 451 just dose not do it for me. My Rally 300 required $300 to fix the suspension and let the motor breathe, still not highway machine. Again, hope this helps. Very cool bike, it just spins the motor a lot at highway speeds.
@@pawelwolski1316modern scooters are very high up in rev range at motorway speeds. I don’t think it’s any concern. Modern engine tolerances are very small, keep oil changed
Hi Mark. I've been out of biking for 20 odd years and have started watching bike reviews. I really appreciate your consistency in the way you review. The cuts of you sat on the bike for size comparison etc. 👍
thanks for the review Mark, have this bike for over a month now and puts a smile everytime I ride on it, I usually listen to music while riding but stopped doing it now with how great the soundtrack is on this bike, glad I pulled the trigger right after its launched. The wait was long and exciting 😂. will definitely sell like hot cake wherever it's available and accessory manufacturers will have a field day. my build is almost complete , it's well over 200kgs now with all of it installed lol, but can't feel it when I ride and I'm a short 5'4" 53kg guy haha, glad an adventure bike like this has come out to accommodate tiny riders like me.
Good review. Nice of the owner to lend you the bike. I understand the first run of bikes are all sold. Your 800mt review made me go and buy one. It's fantastic. Can't wait to try the 450mt if and when demo bikes arrive.
Nice review. They have been released for about 4 weeks now here in Australia. I actually got mine on Saturday 4 days ago. I've only ridden it a total of just over 160 kilometers. So far I'm loving it but it's a learning curve coming from a Yamaha FJR 1300 which I still own. Here the engine is rated at 44 HP and 44 NM
Just a few things to add for anyone wanting some more serious off roading and that come as standard on this bike (but would be extras on most others). Folding in mirrors, folding brake pedal end, folding gear lever end, big wide footrests with removable rubbers, bar mounting for sat nav or whatever. That's a saving of at least three hundred quid if you had to add with aftermarket parts. Switchable abs, on the fly (rear only though). Bigger screen and crash bars coming soon but already available on Ali-Ex*ress. ;-)
Excellent review as usual Mark. Always love your reviews, you’re consistent and fair. I’ve bought 2 bikes in the past based on your reviews, the latest is the a Honda NX500 which is an incredible machine. Thanks as always.
Nice review I had a Himalayan 411 73 plate done Scotland it didn't have enough but it was OK, I bought a 650GT after seeing your review and very please with the quality the 450 will do well in sales many Himmy owners are waiting on this. I rode tested the 450 Himalayan too many vibes ended the ride with numb fingers. Lovely review again
G'day Mark, spot on review very informative, l just love the sound of a large single, this adventure bike looks and sounds wonderful and fun too ride, the price is affordable, keer upright and safe, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Great review... Took a gamble and bought the bike before the reviews and looks like I made the right choice. Roll on 2 weeks. Looks like it's better than the royal Enfield and the triumph 400x
Awesome, would love to see you go back to the 800mt and review the explore edition. I know the bike is mostly the same but the additional tech is very compelling including the blind spot detection.
Have to say I'm really interested in this bike after watching a bunch of review videos. Hopefully this will wake up other manufacturers to explore this size bike
Great review, Mark. I would seriously consider this over the bigger adventure bikes which are just too heavy for me. One think that seems to blight all of this class is the afterthought end can which sticks out from more than it needs to. The Multistrada is the only one with a neat and tucked in exhaust. Even a minor drop and it’s done plus obstructs luggage. Its biggest draw is spec for the money which looks unbeatable.
Very nice and reasonably priced, the finish looks as good as main stream competitors albeit the service intervals could be longer. I’m sure this will sell well however the CF Moto dealership network is still severely lacking in the UK. I live slightly north of Newcastle, nearest dealer being around 100 miles from me so ownership would be very painful for service and warranty trips 🙄. Good stuff Mark and I believe the first UK in depth review before the usual clowns get there hands on it 🫣
Good review of an excellent alternative to the Japanese alternatives. Unfortunately, as far as I can determine seeing one in the flesh would mean a 160 mile round trip to a dealer. A bit too far for me to consider it in terms of dealer servicing for easier warranty claims etc. Top marks to the owner for letting you borrow it⭐️
So interesting about the fuelling. I went and test rode one of these (was going to buy one) but the one I rode was horrible at low speed. Surging throttle, wandering up and down in rpm when sitting at a constant throttle input etc. joined a fb group and a lot of owners having the same issues
Handsome bike for sure. Great value, for your money. That screen, would bother me though, with all that scaffolding, that block's your vision. Great to see that it's adjustable, but would be a real pain, when you're on the fly.
Great review yet again Mark, thank you. Like many here I am wondering how does it compare? I am going to bring the other bike into the mix as well. You said you just preferred the Voge DSX 525 over the 452 Himalayan. Where does the CF Moto 450 MT fit in to the 3 bike line up?
Thanks for the review Mark. It is such a stunning machine! I'm bit concerned about the fuel consumption. It looks like the consumption is bit higher comparitively. It may improve after the first service.
Another great review, I really like the look of this bike. My decision has become harder as the new Himalayan was favourite but this bike seems to offer so much more and it's cheaper! The only issue I'm finding is that none of the reasonably local dealers have this bike in stock.
@@AliasMrHackenbacker I would assume that such a huge company as CF Moto would be capable of supplying the numbers in the long run but it does seem there is very limited supply in the UK at the moment. The RE is (apparently) readily available but, when I made the choice, I decided it was going to be worth the wait. It's an awful lot more bike for the money. Regards how many came in. I've heard the first batch released was only six but can't confirm that.
@CosmikDebriis Thank you. There doesn't seem to be an issue with finding a Himalayan. I would agree with you regarding pricing, and the specification of the CFmoto is hard to beat. I'm in no hurry, and in the meantime, I will see how Charlie from Restdayrider gets on with hers
Bike sounds great! Didn’t realise Poole Moto stocked them (not too far from me). Can I ask what trails / tracks you took it on / would recommend locally? Am part of TRF, but the two trails I’ve tried to explore locally on my Himalayan were both under ‘voluntary restriction order’ or whatever they’re called, would love to know some fairly easy / accessible tracks around wilts / Dorset
Hello sir Mark good day how are you? This is the moment that ive waiting for because ive seen your reviews about the three adventure bikes that i am choosing. Which do you think is the best adventure bikes for all them. nx500,ds525x or cfmoto450mt? Thank you sir and stay safe.
I know this isn't a replacement for a dirt bike but do you think it would still be fun to ride it around an enduro style course? Just zipping between trees, around a pond, and through a prairie without jumps or massive obstacles. There are full on enduro bikes like the XR650 and DR650 in this price range but I have tried buzzy air cooled bikes on the road before and I want something more refined.
It seems to be a very well thought out bike. If the reliability is good then it looks like it will do well. Service intervals seem quite low but I am not sure what the service intervals are on its competitors.
Another excellent review Mark. Really like the look of this bike although we are getting spoilt for choice in this category. My only disappointment in most if not all is the quite short service intervals,. Just makes my question about the durability of the engine and components.
Hi Paul once out of warranty...with modern engines tight tolerances and quality oils these engines are absolutely fine for 4/5 k mile intervals... these Asian manufacturers are always cautious Just my thoughts Cheers mark
Great review. A highly desirable 'do it all' bike, from dirt roads/trails to highways and slow town roads. It's a pity there's no centre stand, it could also use some drop protection around the fairing and engine. I believe they are all sold out.?
Most parts including centre stand and crash bars are currently available on Ali Express. Some are also on eBay but from China. In either case, be aware of potential customs charges.
I really like the look of these Mark, but my main issue with CFmoto, is the lack of dealers. My nearest one is over 50 miles away. Ok, to some that might not be an issue, but to me it is 😢
Thanks Mark. Nice review as always. I checked the specs on this and the 2024 Himalayan 450 and they are very close with the exception of the weight and number of cylinders. The Himi is about 30 lbs heavier... very noticeable. I'm going to guess that your riding impressions with the CFMoto's engine and weight, that you prefer the CFMoto. Would that be correct? Gord
Good review of a very good bike. One thing you didn't mention is the fact that for off road riding the mirrors fold on the hinges in the middle of the stalx. I think that Suzuki and Honda should get into this engine size with similar packages as it's going to be a popular market for young riders moving up and experienced riders wanting a smaller cheaper to run bike.
Ugh, you make me wanna get one too. I do 2 up with my son (he's 12) on my Z900 and it's uncomfortable af. Do you feel like the engine is a bit weak for 2 up light off road touring? I've watched another reviewer said so. He said it's a bit under power for a pillion.
What's it like for turning the ABS off? Is it just one push on the button or do you have to scroll through menu settings? Does it reset if you turn the bike off. I know the KTM 390 drives people mad in this respect, have they got it right here?
@@markpulling12oh sorry.. I just saw that you said about the height... is there any bad side of this motorcycle that you don't like? In Croatia where i from, there is a 5-year guarantee
I'm going to try one of these at some point, I'd like it to be doing significantly fewer rpms in 6th though - 6.5k at 70 mph is too high. And I guess there'll be some who won't want to live with 3000 mile oil changes. Speaking as a "more mature" rider who just wants a comfy travel bike...
It's a small capacity engine these sort of rpms are not that high it's not an 800cc. If the revs are to low at 70mph and increased throttle is required it might use more fuel.
I was looking forward to you getting your hands on this bike. It seems to be great value for money if the build quality is up to the job. Had this been on the market last year it may have beaten out the CB500x I ended up buying. Ride safe! (Oh, did you mention it’s light weight 🤣)
Big question is... How does it compare to the new Himalayan? I got to test the 450MT and think it's brilliant for the money. I'm yet to test the Himalayan
Im hopefully riding both next week , having had my fingers burnt on a chinese bike already. Im leaning toward the Himalayan ....I think over time, it'll be the more robust bike .
I’m torn between this and the Himalayan 450 - I feel like the MT450 may have more out of the box but not sure which is the better bike for real adventuring on?!
I think this is going to be a huge debate....the Himalayan will always be a great choice for crossing continent's....me personally I prefer the better wind protection of the cfmoto... the Enfield is a little too open for me at the front ....plus I much prefer the engine on the cfmoto Cheers mark
![CF MOTO 450 MT vs Himalayan, Honda NX500 & Triumph 400X - Best Small Adventure Bike? [QuickTest#41]](/img/n.gif)
Thanks for not falling off... (the owner).
Haha 😆 many many thanks for the loan 😁 catch up soon
Are you based in the Poole area?
@@paulkusyk8254 Close... Bournemouth.
Is it run in ?
@@CosmikDebriis any chance to catch you to check seat position on your bike?
Just did the first 1000 km here in Poland. Yep great bike but......
It has short gearing, 125 indicated (120 gps) you are at 7000 rpm with 8500 red line. I have already installed 15T front sprocket, that drops the rpm about 500.
The fueling off idle is not great (thx euro whatever it is). Throttle cable adjustment helps, but a good tune is the real solution.
The exhaust is actually on the loud side, ok I guess I am old.
Skid plate is paper thin.
Mix riding computer shows 3.7/100, refueling math shows 4.0/100.
Hope this helps someone.
Thanks....bit like the honda 500s ...one tooth bigger front sprocket can work wonders
Cheers mark
I live in a big city and thinking about buying this one. Do you think the 15T sprocket manages the traffic jams better?
Dzieki za opinie!
@lucaconte7812 We actually have 2 mt450s, my friend and I. My has 15t, his still 14t, so I have back to back comparison. The 15t, "calms" the bike donw a little bit, the 14t is obviously bit livelier..........15t does drop the rpm around 500 for any given speed, it's not a huge difference. With both setups, the engine pulls well everywhere. For city riding, this bike would be great. It will do 120-130 with 14 or 15, but the motor is up there in rpm. Doing this for 500 or 1000km.........most likely is fine, it just feels bit "wrong" for me. This is no longer a "dirt bike", yet most reviews are mostly in the dirt. I think it's a miss on CFMOTOs part with the 5th and 6th gear. They should have made them taller, in my opinion. There is plenty of power in the engine. It is a good bike, all the features are awesome, quality is 90% Japanese......The Royal Himalayan 451 just dose not do it for me. My Rally 300 required $300 to fix the suspension and let the motor breathe, still not highway machine. Again, hope this helps. Very cool bike, it just spins the motor a lot at highway speeds.
@@pawelwolski1316modern scooters are very high up in rev range at motorway speeds. I don’t think it’s any concern. Modern engine tolerances are very small, keep oil changed
Hi Mark.
I've been out of biking for 20 odd years and have started watching bike reviews.
I really appreciate your consistency in the way you review. The cuts of you sat on the bike for size comparison etc. 👍
thanks for the review Mark, have this bike for over a month now and puts a smile everytime I ride on it, I usually listen to music while riding but stopped doing it now with how great the soundtrack is on this bike, glad I pulled the trigger right after its launched. The wait was long and exciting 😂. will definitely sell like hot cake wherever it's available and accessory manufacturers will have a field day. my build is almost complete
, it's well over 200kgs now with all of it installed lol, but can't feel it when I ride and I'm a short 5'4" 53kg guy haha, glad an adventure bike like this has come out to accommodate tiny riders like me.
Good review. Nice of the owner to lend you the bike. I understand the first run of bikes are all sold. Your 800mt review made me go and buy one. It's fantastic. Can't wait to try the 450mt if and when demo bikes arrive.
This must be the most anticipated bike of the year so far, I,m really tempted by one, seems to tick all the boxes. Thanks for another top review Mark.
Thank it's going to sell incredibly well 😁
my only gripe with it is the fuel consumption, i expected a little better from a 450cc
Nice review. They have been released for about 4 weeks now here in Australia. I actually got mine on Saturday 4 days ago. I've only ridden it a total of just over 160 kilometers. So far I'm loving it but it's a learning curve coming from a Yamaha FJR 1300 which I still own. Here the engine is rated at 44 HP and 44 NM
Thanks for bringing us this review Mark. Been looking forward to it. Excellent work.
Glad you enjoyed it 😄
Another fantastic review Mark! Very kind owner lent you their pride & joy.
Cheers
Yes ...I know him ...these bikes are currently very hard to demo ...and short supplies till August
Cheers mark
I’m not a any Chinese make bike or car period but this particular bike caught my eye , it’s designed absolutely beautiful.
Just a few things to add for anyone wanting some more serious off roading and that come as standard on this bike (but would be extras on most others). Folding in mirrors, folding brake pedal end, folding gear lever end, big wide footrests with removable rubbers, bar mounting for sat nav or whatever. That's a saving of at least three hundred quid if you had to add with aftermarket parts.
Switchable abs, on the fly (rear only though).
Bigger screen and crash bars coming soon but already available on Ali-Ex*ress. ;-)
Excellent review as usual Mark. Always love your reviews, you’re consistent and fair. I’ve bought 2 bikes in the past based on your reviews, the latest is the a Honda NX500 which is an incredible machine. Thanks as always.
Many thanks 👍
Nice review I had a Himalayan 411 73 plate done Scotland it didn't have enough but it was OK, I bought a 650GT after seeing your review and very please with the quality the 450 will do well in sales many Himmy owners are waiting on this. I rode tested the 450 Himalayan too many vibes ended the ride with numb fingers. Lovely review again
Looks like a lovely bike. Great review well done Mark
Been waiting for this, great review, thank you.
My pleasure thanks 👍 great bike
Your review is spot on Mark. I purchased one 4 weeks ago. I’ve just had first service and it’s loosened up nicely. It goes hard for a little 450.
Thanks great bike 😄
Very informative review . Ordered mine . Cant wait for my first ride
G'day Mark, spot on review very informative, l just love the sound of a large single, this adventure bike looks and sounds wonderful and fun too ride, the price is affordable, keer upright and safe, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Looks a gem. Regardless of price, or origin. CF Moto have really come on leaps and bounds in less than a decade
Good review. I would add one to my road test collection
perfect bike ... wud definitely buy one
Thanks for that very useful review mark.
Thanks Stuart my pleasure 😁
Nice review Mark 😊. This adventure bike ticks the box for us short riders. 🙏
Looks very comfortable, great presence on the road, i know how much you've been looking forward to reviwing this .🎉 Great honest review
Thanks Martine 😁 x
Thanks for the review.
Sounds great, what an awesome looking bike👍🏽
Great job Mark
Great review... Took a gamble and bought the bike before the reviews and looks like I made the right choice. Roll on 2 weeks. Looks like it's better than the royal Enfield and the triumph 400x
Hi Dave... yes you made a Great choice...the engine is brilliant... great bike for the money cheers mark
Great stuff. Get.mine in two weeks @@markpulling12
Cfmoto should put you on the payroll, a great review 👍
Awesome, would love to see you go back to the 800mt and review the explore edition. I know the bike is mostly the same but the additional tech is very compelling including the blind spot detection.
Very nice looking motorcycle...!
Nice review Mark.
Many thanks, Mark 😁👍🏴
Have to say I'm really interested in this bike after watching a bunch of review videos. Hopefully this will wake up other manufacturers to explore this size bike
thanks for the in depth review
@@triarii_00 my pleasure...a great 👍 bike
Great review, Mark. I would seriously consider this over the bigger adventure bikes which are just too heavy for me. One think that seems to blight all of this class is the afterthought end can which sticks out from more than it needs to. The Multistrada is the only one with a neat and tucked in exhaust. Even a minor drop and it’s done plus obstructs luggage. Its biggest draw is spec for the money which looks unbeatable.
Great review as always Mark. If you heard it blindfolded you'd never guess it to be a 450 would you 👌
Thank John yes it sounds great 👍
Very nice and reasonably priced, the finish looks as good as main stream competitors albeit the service intervals could be longer. I’m sure this will sell well however the CF Moto dealership network is still severely lacking in the UK. I live slightly north of Newcastle, nearest dealer being around 100 miles from me so ownership would be very painful for service and warranty trips 🙄. Good stuff Mark and I believe the first UK in depth review before the usual clowns get there hands on it 🫣
Grey one on order for July!!
Good review of an excellent alternative to the Japanese alternatives. Unfortunately, as far as I can determine seeing one in the flesh would mean a 160 mile round trip to a dealer. A bit too far for me to consider it in terms of dealer servicing for easier warranty claims etc.
Top marks to the owner for letting you borrow it⭐️
With a wider dealer network they should sell if proven reliable, another excellent review Mark.
@@adrianstrand1120 I'm sure over time they will get bigger ...I think this is going to be like when the Jap bikes came out in the 70 s
Cheers mark
So interesting about the fuelling. I went and test rode one of these (was going to buy one) but the one I rode was horrible at low speed. Surging throttle, wandering up and down in rpm when sitting at a constant throttle input etc. joined a fb group and a lot of owners having the same issues
Nice bike Mark and a good review, nicely edited to remove the part where you dropped it! 😉🤣
Haha brilliant 😂 thanks 👍
Oi...
@@CosmikDebriis Good of you to let Mark use your bike 👍 I guess you can say there's not a Mark on it now!! 🤣
@@Hinckley_Biker Don't give up the day job ;-)
@@CosmikDebriis 😁
Just needs a longer front mud guard and they have nailed it!!
Handsome bike for sure. Great value, for your money. That screen, would bother me though, with all that scaffolding, that block's your vision. Great to see that it's adjustable, but would be a real pain, when you're on the fly.
Great review yet again Mark, thank you. Like many here I am wondering how does it compare? I am going to bring the other bike into the mix as well. You said you just preferred the Voge DSX 525 over the 452 Himalayan. Where does the CF Moto 450 MT fit in to the 3 bike line up?
Hi yes cfmoto.....first for me .... engine is ace ... voge...then Enfield.....but all are great 👍
@@markpulling12 , Thank you. Thought that maybe the order they would come in. Value your opinion so please keep up the great reviews.
Nice-looking bike of its type. On the subject of the 450 category, I'm looking forward to reviews of the Guerilla. Nick
Thanks for the review Mark. It is such a stunning machine! I'm bit concerned about the fuel consumption. It looks like the consumption is bit higher comparitively. It may improve after the first service.
You should get an easy 70 mpg UK
Cheers mark
Great review. Loved it.
What happened at 14:00 and 17:25 handle bar wobble. You'd just mentioned stability
Thats me doing it on purpose :)
Hi mark nce review of the cf moto 450mt.its looking like it will be a big seller & from what ive seen so far deservedly so
Hi Stephen yes definitely...it's sold out already I think
Cheers mark
Reminds me.of my old Suzuki dr650se, we haven't really progressed in 25 years !! Lol, its a great bike provided the engine camshafts don't fail 😂😂
Mark thank you for posting video. Briliant as always. ❤
Please tell me which one you prefer mt 450 or Hymalayan 450!?
Cfmoto for me ... prefer the engine ;)
Thanks Mark. @@markpulling12
Another great review, I really like the look of this bike. My decision has become harder as the new Himalayan was favourite but this bike seems to offer so much more and it's cheaper! The only issue I'm finding is that none of the reasonably local dealers have this bike in stock.
I think they are now sold out untill August,,,:)
@@markpulling12 Same as the 800MT. I wonder how many bikes CFMoto brought into the UK?
@@AliasMrHackenbacker I would assume that such a huge company as CF Moto would be capable of supplying the numbers in the long run but it does seem there is very limited supply in the UK at the moment. The RE is (apparently) readily available but, when I made the choice, I decided it was going to be worth the wait. It's an awful lot more bike for the money.
Regards how many came in. I've heard the first batch released was only six but can't confirm that.
@CosmikDebriis Thank you. There doesn't seem to be an issue with finding a Himalayan. I would agree with you regarding pricing, and the specification of the CFmoto is hard to beat. I'm in no hurry, and in the meantime, I will see how Charlie from Restdayrider gets on with hers
Great review Mark i think these are going to sell like hot cakes .
Yes Kevin ....out of them all ...benelli voge ..RE ...this is my new favourite
Cheers mark
Bike sounds great! Didn’t realise Poole Moto stocked them (not too far from me). Can I ask what trails / tracks you took it on / would recommend locally? Am part of TRF, but the two trails I’ve tried to explore locally on my Himalayan were both under ‘voluntary restriction order’ or whatever they’re called, would love to know some fairly easy / accessible tracks around wilts / Dorset
Hi it's just on the left passed the bovington tank turning cheers mark
Wow what a lot of bike for the money
Great bike, great review! Is there a usb socket around the screen area? Did i miss that bit?
Yes I did say it's on the side of the TFT:)
Usb and type c conection
@@markpulling12 cheers Mark
Those kind of rims on a 450 I wanna say bang for the buck.
Hello sir Mark good day how are you? This is the moment that ive waiting for because ive seen your reviews about the three adventure bikes that i am choosing. Which do you think is the best adventure bikes for all them. nx500,ds525x or cfmoto450mt? Thank you sir and stay safe.
Hi the cfmoto is my favorite now ... brilliant engine
Best wishes
I have the 650mt and am finding it to be a bit heavy for my liking, plus I can’t flat foot it. Do I down size to the 450.🧐
I know this isn't a replacement for a dirt bike but do you think it would still be fun to ride it around an enduro style course? Just zipping between trees, around a pond, and through a prairie without jumps or massive obstacles. There are full on enduro bikes like the XR650 and DR650 in this price range but I have tried buzzy air cooled bikes on the road before and I want something more refined.
Hi Mark, does the 450 MT come with a quick shifter or is it an option? Thanks for the great review Cheers Gray
Hi I haven't heard or seen a quick shifter option ...Im certain it's a no ...but companies may develop one in the future
Cheers mark
There's someone having one fitted on utube. And cruise control!
Just tried a 700 Tenere, I'm 5ft 10 and was on tip toe. It was also twice the price of this!
Would you say this one is better than Honda NX500? Excellent review again.
Hi thanks very equal in most ways
Better engine :) ,:) possibly better off road
So that in itself would win me over
Cheers mark
I'm just waiting for the CRF-450.
It seems to be a very well thought out bike. If the reliability is good then it looks like it will do well. Service intervals seem quite low but I am not sure what the service intervals are on its competitors.
What do you reckon then Mark MT or Hamalayan?
Good reviews on both from you.
The cfmoto just wins for me
Better frontal area for wind protection and that engine,,,!!
Another excellent review Mark. Really like the look of this bike although we are getting spoilt for choice in this category. My only disappointment in most if not all is the quite short service intervals,. Just makes my question about the durability of the engine and components.
Hi Paul once out of warranty...with modern engines tight tolerances and quality oils these engines are absolutely fine for 4/5 k mile intervals... these Asian manufacturers are always cautious
Just my thoughts
Cheers mark
Most of these would be oil and filter change.
Great review. A highly desirable 'do it all' bike, from dirt roads/trails to highways and slow town roads. It's a pity there's no centre stand, it could also use some drop protection around the fairing and engine. I believe they are all sold out.?
Thank yes next batch in UK is august I believe cheers mark
Centre stand is available as an extra to order.
Most parts including centre stand and crash bars are currently available on Ali Express. Some are also on eBay but from China. In either case, be aware of potential customs charges.
I was looking through your channel for a review on the KTM 390 Adventure but could only find the Duke done by you. Why was that?
@@deniseroberts6908 I haven't been able to get a demo on the adventure in the past ...but I'll give the new place in Christchurch a call
Cheers mark
Cb500x now the nx500 himmy 450 & 450 mt all great bikes.i like the osners reply😂
I really like the look of these Mark, but my main issue with CFmoto, is the lack of dealers. My nearest one is over 50 miles away. Ok, to some that might not be an issue, but to me it is 😢
Thinking about changing my CRF 250L and Tuareg 660 to this CF Moto ..... 2 x 1.....
Thanks Mark. Nice review as always. I checked the specs on this and the 2024 Himalayan 450 and they are very close with the exception of the weight and number of cylinders.
The Himi is about 30 lbs heavier... very noticeable.
I'm going to guess that your riding impressions with the CFMoto's engine and weight, that you prefer the CFMoto.
Would that be correct?
Gord
Hi gord yes exactly that...better engine lighter plus much better wind protection...high front area
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Indeed... thanks Mark.
Gord
Good review of a very good bike. One thing you didn't mention is the fact that for off road riding the mirrors fold on the hinges in the middle of the stalx.
I think that Suzuki and Honda should get into this engine size with similar packages as it's going to be a popular market for young riders moving up and experienced riders wanting a smaller cheaper to run bike.
Thanks for pointing that out I did actually bend and fold those mirrors where you said before I started riding ,:)
Great feature cheers mark
Ugh, you make me wanna get one too. I do 2 up with my son (he's 12) on my Z900 and it's uncomfortable af. Do you feel like the engine is a bit weak for 2 up light off road touring? I've watched another reviewer said so. He said it's a bit under power for a pillion.
Well it's 40 hp ...it's still going to do ,70 mph with lots in reserve...it would be fine
Cheers mark
@markpulling12 Thanks mate. I'll have to go for a test ride.
Get a vstrom 650 u will be surprised
Can you do a review of the cfmoto 450srs at Poole moto please as I'm buying one
Haha 😆 they have one in stock ...see what I can blag ,lol 😂
What's it like for turning the ABS off? Is it just one push on the button or do you have to scroll through menu settings? Does it reset if you turn the bike off. I know the KTM 390 drives people mad in this respect, have they got it right here?
Hi it's just one push of the button ✅
Cheers mark
Nice review 👍👍 ..How tall are you(in cm)? Is that bike good for beginner?
Hi I did say at the beginning,,I'm 5ft 7 ...you can see me on the bike at the beginning with full info
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12oh sorry.. I just saw that you said about the height... is there any bad side of this motorcycle that you don't like? In Croatia where i from, there is a 5-year guarantee
@@Domy696 hi no it's a fantastic bike for the money ...id say best in class...the engine is superb
Best wishes mark
I'm going to try one of these at some point, I'd like it to be doing significantly fewer rpms in 6th though - 6.5k at 70 mph is too high. And I guess there'll be some who won't want to live with 3000 mile oil changes. Speaking as a "more mature" rider who just wants a comfy travel bike...
It's a small capacity engine these sort of rpms are not that high it's not an 800cc. If the revs are to low at 70mph and increased throttle is required it might use more fuel.
Changing the front sprocket should drop it by 500rpm.
@makomadeira5799 1 extra tooth on the front. Hopefully someone does it and gets back to us.
Seems like a good nice bike for the money? How does it compare to the new Himalayan 450? Which is more expensive??
Better engine...lighter ...and more wind protection... bet Royal Enfield are worried 😫 lol 😂
@@markpulling12yes thanks for quick reply I might be able to try the cf this week at the Abr festival??
Any thoughts on this vs the Enfield Himilayan 452?
Hi yes ....better engine....lighter ...better wind protection...cheaper 😁
Best wishes mark
I was looking forward to you getting your hands on this bike. It seems to be great value for money if the build quality is up to the job. Had this been on the market last year it may have beaten out the CB500x I ended up buying. Ride safe! (Oh, did you mention it’s light weight 🤣)
i have to say that is very very nice looking kit if it was a 600 700 800 at that price id be diving to buy one but it ain't sorry but nice though
No negatives ? How does it compare to the RE ? Which would you choose ?
I prefer the cfmoto...with it's bigger frontal area for wind protection and the engine is fantastic
Cheers mark
Big question is... How does it compare to the new Himalayan?
I got to test the 450MT and think it's brilliant for the money. I'm yet to test the Himalayan
The engine is better plus way more wind protection 😁
Im hopefully riding both next week , having had my fingers burnt on a chinese bike already. Im leaning toward the Himalayan ....I think over time, it'll be the more robust bike .
Ya dont realise the chinese products are improving monthly do you? My guess is this ends up being better than the RE. Crazy times
@christopherpekel6096 Unfortunately them being better next week doesn't help me with the bike I bought nearly 2 years ago !
It looks nice . But it is just too much plastic for me. I go for a more rugged look
A worthy replacement for my CRF Rally me thinks.
There is a universal alloy plate under the plastic cover.
I’m torn between this and the Himalayan 450 - I feel like the MT450 may have more out of the box but not sure which is the better bike for real adventuring on?!
I think this is going to be a huge debate....the Himalayan will always be a great choice for crossing continent's....me personally I prefer the better wind protection of the cfmoto... the Enfield is a little too open for me at the front ....plus I much prefer the engine on the cfmoto
Cheers mark
Royal Enfield: Vibration, crap headlight, minimal spec, too heavy and more expensive. Hard to justify.
Hi Mark is it better than the Honda NX500
Hi all things considered About equal but it has a nicer engine and cheaper
Id buy this for sure 😀
Best wishes
that looks nice how much? i think I came across this before and silly price I think??
@@googlelimp9834 £5600 otr
Bargain 😁
@@markpulling12 its not much of a bargine to be honest at that size of engine however it does come with 4 year warranty o it so thas good
Buying in the states when it arrives this fall. Will be a banging little commuter, keep some miles off my GS.
do any bikes have helmet locks anymore or do you put the helmet strap under the seat?
Hi most don't have locks these days ..your better off just putting a good lock through the helmet to the front wheel or something
Cheers mark
Wow, has chubless wheels
Theres been alot of people waiting for this bike , i think it will out sell all its competitors.
I think this is best in class tbh 😁
Lovely looking bike but a service every 3,000 miles!! 😮
Hi Mark, Where did the owner buy this bike from as they’re not listed on Poolemoto. Regards John (Guernsey)
Hi he bought it from Poole Moto ...they probably haven't updated the website cheers mark
@@markpulling12 just found out that KTM due to their tie-up with CFmoto, are using their distribution network.
Alot of KTM dna in this bike since CFMoto is a contract manufacturer for KTM.
Does it have cruise control like 800MT?
No. small cheaper bikes generally don't have Cruise
Cheers mark