Man lives full time on SailBoat in San Francisco for only 400$ a month!
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- In this episode of alternative dwellings, we get a tour of a sailboat that has become a livable board for a man who changed his life after being in the Navy. he enjoys the lifestyle of living on a boat and the minimalism that comes along with that. if you enjoyed this video please share it with a friend then subscribe for new videos every single Sunday.
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Alternative dwellings are great when it's your choice to choose to live that way, but do you ever wonder why less of us are able to buy a traditional home?
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My guess is the boat is NOT sail worthy, and I'm guessing he doesn't really sail the boat, but it's just a cheap liveaboard. Problem is, sailboats normally ALWAYS need work. This one needs a ton. But this guy seems happy, which is what's important.
@@jasonmacneil2256 What makes it float worthy but not sail worthy?
@@michaelbrinks8089 the sails, the sheets, the rigging, the condition of the hull, the operational readiness of the steering system from the wheel/tiller to the rudder. I'd bet this boat hasn't been on the hard for a long while!
$400 for like a 400sq home that leaks, moves, can sink anytime, etc etc then like insurance, upkeep so forth.. its not cheap at all. he prob spends more like $900 on the low side per month after fees not disclosed to make the title clickbait. LOW SIDE.. after linked power(link fee not power fee)/cable/internet/insurance/dock slip/ electricity etc etc.. he easily pays more than 1k/month to live in a room smaller than found in NYC. But boss man, its cool, but these people are misrepresenting you from what i can tell allegedly with 1% uncertainty.
@@TrueHelpTV you need to pull your head outta your butt, your brain (as small as it is) will thank you for the much needed oxygen!!
it’s his boat, his life and he’s happy. Nuff said
The politicians aren't when they see us happiness and how he's paying for rent,, please read my post,, thank you
yep
i dig it
Exactly what I was thinking.
Maybe if California stopped voting for the communists democrats you wouldn’t be forced to live on a boat. I grew up on the water all my life, I had cabin cruisers bigger then that, great for spending a weekend but no way would I want to live on them. Great to save money but it’s gonna get old. To each his own but if these crooks in government gave a shit they would lower taxes and make living in an actual house or apartment easier financially. I guess there are showers at the marina ? Heck I lived in San Diego for 8 years, born and raised in the Bronx NY, then moved to Wa State for 22 years, now I’m in Red Ohio for the last 8 years and bought a house, mortgage is $419.00 a month at 3.25%. As long as we keep these liberal democrats out of here, it’s easy to own a home, I have a good job Boeing aircraft mechanic and it’s a small home only 2 1/2 bedrooms. Now however the China communists are in the White House and destroyed our economy, so now cost of living is through the roof, it’s tougher as they ruin the American dream especially if somebody is divorced living on a boat or in many cases their vehicle or a box in the street in liberal run LA. Move out of Cali, start a new life in a red state, live in a home, save money and most importantly don’t vote for the democrats when you get here.
Can u dig it?!?!?
dude is so humble..."its not great but it does what its supposed to"
We’ve owned a farm and owned two homes, and then we made some changes. We now live on our sailboat, too. It’s a Beneteau 473… Not slumming it at all. It’s a great lifestyle. Sold the farm, sold the house, and moved aboard full-time seven years ago. Life is great! Most people are owned by all their stuff - We own our stuff.
You said you ‘owned’ a farm and ‘owned’ two homes. Sounds like you weren’t ‘owned by your stuff’ at all, you just gave up on the work of maintaining it.
Seeing this makes me wanna do a boat tour! I have been living on my 34 ft sailboat in Norway for the last 3 years. Sailed thousands of nautical miles, up to the arctic but also south to Sweden and Denmark. Right now I am at anchor in a bay in Norway, diesel heater running quitely and keeping the temperature nice and warm. Lithium batteries powers my 4G router, the heater, my appliances, laptop.. solar panels and alternators generate what I need of power. It is really an amazing lifestyle, especially when you get free from the dock with a seaworthy ship!
Get a wood stove. We will run out of diesel soon.
@@thefullmonte1902 yeah a cubic mini is my dream.
@@SailingVinderla Do it fast.. it will help you through winter. Perhaps you can get a non boat and adapt. Or build something from scratch.
I took the MS Lofoten a few years ago and I sailed on MS Norsel from Tromso to Svalbad. Norge has been good to me. Greeting from Australia 🇦🇺..
I truly envy you . After my time in the Navy I always wanted to spend time on a sailing vessel . Unfortunately I was never able to make it happen . But I did accomplish another dream I had when I earned a pilots license .
I did this for 8 years on a 37ft in San Diego while stationed at NAS North Island and it was by far the best 8 years of my life!!! My Boat Payment, slip fees, utilities and insurance on my boat was cheaper than I could have rented a 1 bedroom apartment in the ghetto area of SD and still had about 200 bucks of my "Rent Plus" the Navy paid me to live off base!
This life style is not for everyone! You will definitely need to change a lot of things in your life to do this. Your limited on space and have to buy things you actually USE daily and not much else extra. If you do this seriously consider a boat thats a displacement hull and has a really good galley and lay out. In California they allow for 10% "live aboards" and most marinas have a waiting list that could be lengthy. If your single, something like a Catalina 30ft is about the smallest you can comfortable live on.
One of the most important things I have learned so far is that buying anything you do not need is a form of insanity. Simple is the key to good living.
Before my sailboat, I had a big issue with buying unneeded items that simply clutterd my life and created "life anchors".
Don't tell that to the storage owners and or storage people that waste their money on storage fees, 1,200 annually minimum to save junk that you can't even sell at a yard sale probably,
Yes, perfect logic.
Its not like advertising has nothing to do with that. Watching people buy trucks for sex appeal or personal insecurity drives the point home.
@@Creative_Digitized_Solutions Life anchors ⚓ yes so true 😊
Glad to see Andre Agassi is living the dream
😂 I can see the resemblance.
Where is Steffi?
Helluva player
i knew he looked like someone
@@arnoldschwarzenegger1527 She was probably out kitesurfing when they filmed this.
I lived on my sailboat for eight years. The boat vintage, layout and size were almost identical to that shown here, though this boat is a little bigger. All of the practical considerations were the same, though in my case, living in Canada, required special measures for winter. From 1993 to 2008 I ran the live-aboard mail list. I may restore the archive somewhere after appropriate privacy stripping. It is full of practical advice and experiences.
That’s an Ericson 32
I’ll never live aboard but I’d love to see the archive and I’m sure I’m not alone. Hope you do publish it at some point.
@@vidguy007 Only 32 ft end to end? Looks bigger on video but I notice so do many of the tiny homes.
It’s actually a 1977 Ericson 34t 😊
I'd like to see that friend
Legal live-aboard sailors living in marinas, often wait years for live-aboard slips anywhere on the west coast of North America.
So don't run out and buy a boat before you have an approved live-aboard slip. (A 40foot slip and boat is usually easier to get.) Of course, you can be a gypsy and live "on-the-hook" (at anchor) but then you you must move from anchorage to anchorage.
And if you want all the amenities of home (like a refrigerator, hot water, TV etc.) You must usually be in a marina with hookups. While solar panels can provide electric power, they can't provide a mailing address or a washing machine.
And don't confine your search to sailboats only, unless you really like sailing. Powerboats generally have bigger live-aboard accommodations for the same, over-all boat-length. Don't buy a really old or wooden boat (they're becoming impossible to insure, a world-wide marina requirement.)
After twenty years of living in marinas, the only thing I truly miss is my garage.
"People living in houses and hotels around me, pay thousands (and millions of $ ) for their oceanview properties and I'm the view."
So if you are "parked" at a marina, do they have hook up to discharge your waste water and how do you discharge the waste when you are living by anchor?
@@Henry-gb8cl All grey-water is discharged legally into the sea, any time. All black water (sewage) is confined to holding tanks and may not (at any time) be discharged in U.S. marinas or any intercoastal waterways. You may however, legally discharge this at sea (3 miles off-shore.) We don't since we don't use our boat head while we're at the dock, except for urine. This goes into a holding tank and is periodically emptied at a pump station or by a routine service boat. BTW, urine is naturally antiseptic and is not (in small quantities) harmful to marine life or the ocean.
In fact, the water in the marina is usually pretty good and is only occasionally fouled by run-off from city storm drains. Of course there is always some illegal or accidental dumping happening, but city run-off is by far, the worst offender.
Some modern marinas now feature pump-out fixtures on every slip, especially for 40 footers and up.
@@jamesbaldwin7676 Thanks.
Same I’m on a 27 foot cal in Florida and have in it for 2 years I love it
@@unclewill I hope you're avoiding hurricanes and have found a suitable hurricane-hole when Neptune gets nasty.
Before my 40 footer i had an old Ericson 27 which I completely refitted. I loved that boat and put a ton of money into her restoration (boy was that a stupid thing to do. but all fun.)
Man can live anywhere, and doesn't need much to be happy.
Men could DO THAT 😄
unless he has wife and daughters 😋
I think, it may have to do with our bodies♀️
Women are more complicated😊
A lone wolf man can live anywhere. We don't need much at all. Just enough space to lay down at night and sleep. Everything else is a luxury.
You may want more, but you certainly don't need more. Half of the world lives in worse conditions with kids. It's all mental.@@kathleenking47
Very true.
It's all you need. So peaceful. We had a couple who lived at a marina in Tarpon Springs. It was a bigger boat, but it taught me that you don't need a lot of stuff to be happy.
I've lived in a camper for six years at the mouth of a canyon for $200 a month. It's rough living, but the easiest way to save money and invest in your own assets.
I was a merchant mariner for five years and if I didn’t meet the love of my life I’d still be sailing. Glad to see that his man living life on his terms.
I delivered food on a door dash delivery to a guy on a dock who lived on his boat not long ago lol. It was such a interesting order lol. Ppl had their boats all lit up and decorated with Halloween props, a bar, a huge tv and it looks awesome. He also tipped very well lol.
Thumbs up.
Beginning about 19:14 in your video, you introduce your personal philosophy of helping others. Same here. It's the best way to live and for me, the only way to live.
A grievous personal loss 18 years ago moved me to think about what my purpose in life is or should be. I left my successful career as an airline captain and moved from Florida to Alaska. Over the next five years, during which time I devoted my 40 years of experience to flying medical evacuation in Alaska and then to saving lives in the Middle East, I realized that helping others was my life's purpose. I can't think of any other calling that even begins to justify my being here. Congratulations to you, sir, for coming to that realization at an earlier stage of life than I did.
Alaska Dave
What I love about this guy is he is not preachy. He could care less if you like how he lives or not or if you choose to do it. He is just being him and living his way while being a great human being. If we all had his attitude the world would be so great. I was unaware of the 3 day rule. I have watched many videos like this and no one has ever mentioned that. That would (in a weird way) be pretty cool though. Force you to get out and go camping or whatever. Then when you came back you would appreciate the 3 days on your boat. Very great video and thank you for this:) "The fastest way to get out there is to get out there" - awesome quote!
If he didn't care... He wouldn't be showcasing, and getting in contact with production to show his home on camera.
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 Ya sorry bud - I shouldn't be throwing around compliments like that. Thanks for setting me in my place. I'm going to crap on people from now on. Stupid me. Just a lapse. I will get better at being negative I promise.
Thank you for the kind comment. I am glad you liked my interview. 😊
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 They contacted me 😮
He COULDN'T care less. If he COULD care less he care a bit.
I’d say you’re doing great. I’m 70 and have owned sailboats for most of my life. I’m not a live aboard, but have thought about it many times. We DO accumulate way too much crap. I read recently that the proliferation of self storage units is a stark reminder of what ridiculous over-consumers we have become…we can’t even fit what we have in our house and garage anymore. There is NOTHING more inviting than the simple warm confines of a well kept sailboat cabin. Sounds like at the time of this video you were looking at other boats. My only advice would be to be respectful of maintenance items as they can get out of hand if not dealt with quickly and conscientiosly. And I also really believe that if you can buy a boat that you truly find beautiful then you’ll be more inclined to fuss over taking good care of her. My boat is now 45 years old, and I enjoy keeping up with whatever she needs to ensure that she will far outlive me!!
What a beautiful boat and setup, I'm sure he gets some of the best sleep you could imagine.
I did this 15 years ago, but sailed my 32 foot Nicholson to Mexico and cruised the sea of Cortez. I anchored out 98 percent of the time, so living was cheap. This is not possible on the west coast anywhere. In Puget sound you are limited to a month a year at anchor, and it is cold at least half the year. If it is cold you will pay for heat. I was never cold there and did it for ten years. There it is too much heat, but a fan is usually enough. So unless you can find a cheap marina that allows liveaboards it will cost almost as much as living in an apartment. In a marina you will be showering and pooping in public spaces. You will be walking a hundred yards to get to your vehicle, and it will get covered in seagull crap. Living on a boat in Canada or the US is not all that nice.
Every situation is different. I have free internet but no TV. The marinas are being bought up by capitalists like the houses and the future has a shadow over it. Keep hoping people will wake up and throw these Wall Street leaches out.
I appreciate your honesty
Thank you for your input. While marina life definitely has its pro’s & con’s, there are many different scenarios that can effect the costs and convenience of life onboard a sailboat. The one thing I have learned about parking my vehicle at the marina, is to never park under tree’s (the birds will definitely send you gifts from above. LoL
@@Creative_Digitized_Solutions
I’m so curious about the day in day out life you lived on the water?
Fishing?
Holidays alone?
Tv?
Motion sickness?
Playing solitaire?
Internet?
Drinking booze/smoking?
Books?
Canned goods?
Seeing crazy amphibious creatures?
Making friends?
Pirates?
The night sky out there?
Feeling alone?
Finding things floating in the ocean?
Coast guard?
& on & on & on
The whole life fascinates me
So envious
Your trip through the sea of Cortez produced some really good memories I bet
Plus character building when facing adversity on the ocean
Thanks again for sharing
Not everyday do you speak with someone who has done what you did
Dudes never heard of an ebike, or a carwash. Try pooping in the ocean if you don't like pooping in a public restroom
Not exactly sure how I stumbled upon this vid, but it caught me, and I became very inspired by it to just change. I'm an IT professional kinda going thru a tough time right now. I just lost my job. My GF of 20 years was diagnosed with brain cancer recently. So just tough, and I'm kinda lost right now, but again, if nothing else, your words were very inspiring to me, especially about "helping as many people as you can". We can all use a little help sometimes... So Thanks!
I am glad you enjoyed my interview and found some positivity from it. I am sorry to hear about your GF. 😢 I hope times get better for you and her.
Hang in there. hope things work out for you
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My thoughts are with you as you these tough times, pal. The universe be with you.
This is fantastic. Living on 400 bucks per month in one of the most expensive cities in the world is phenomenal. Congrats to this man and his boat.
Prime spots like that are usually filled up with a waiting list 8 years long. Only way to get a slip is for somebody to die.
Dude, it's not true a slip @ 40ft is more than $400 add another 400 for liveaboard its heavily regulated 10% per marina capacity a wait list, and you ain't on it if you know the harbormaster then maybe but not for $400
Then there's the "sneak boards" and that doesn't count oh forgot you get anal fuk'd on property tax and that's no joke
Not sure why the channel fibbed about this. It's Antioch CA (very not SF), not 400 bucks, and not full-time. Guy has to scramble a lot. Still cool but be honest, you know.
Amen...
@@CrusteanParliamentsadly that’s what a ton of content creators are doing now just outright lying. I’m ok with a tongue in check stretch of the truth, but people like this are clearly in it just for the clicks (money).
Stuff! So much stuff!!! How freeing! And learning the language! That’s what I’m learning.
This guy is awesome. This was very entertaining and very informative for someone looking for some life changes.
Thank you for the kind words. I am glad you enjoyed it. 😊
I admire you !!!! You do what I ALWAYS wanted to do !!!! You are Living and not just existing !!!! You are TRULY enjoying God's Country !!!! Enjoy be safe and GOD Bless you !!!!
Love this I am 68 years old and would love to do something like your journey, thank you for sharing your story it sparked a huge idea for me to think about,
That's so cool. If I had to live in a small place, this is what I'd do
Actually a pretty good idea. Only problem is that most basic sailboats have that musty smell that doesn’t go away. The bilge/wood whatever. I’d be sneezing 24/7.
I haven’t noticed a musty smell. Then again I do burn candles at night and cook throughout the day, so maybe that why?
A clean, dry, well aired boat has none of that smell.
I've been living on my 40 ft. Beneteau for over 5 years. At first a necessity. I am 66. What I see now is how handy everything is. Built in kitchens built in beds, built in everything. Just unloaded two big storage lockers of all my stuff from the house. The insanity of having huge amounts of stuff has hit me hard. My relatives as they aged got rid of all their stuff prior to death. When I was young I was committed to having the maximum amount of stuff. It seems quite foolish now. I've owned the boat for 23 years and have it set up exactly as I want. I say the only thing I don't have is a dishwasher which probably would'nt fit through the hatch although table tops are available. Storage is an issue and I use one of the 3 bedrooms for that which is not ideal. I would say a big old cruiser would be best as a liveaboard, running or not. Tow it to where you want to dock it. I have thought about buying a minimal amount of waterfront land and putting in my own utilities to get rid of the marina charge.
Great info! May I ask if u recommend Beneteau or other any boats ?
Beneteau’s are beautiful boats. The notion of owning a cruiser has been my dream for decades. The minimalist lifestyle that comes with owning a sailboat is quite invigorating.
@@Sam-ky7si It all depends on what you want and how much you spend. If all you want is to tie it to the dock and live on it you can ignore all the mechanicals. Here there are lots of houseboats with no engines. The number of boats is infinite. There are catalogues of thousands of bank repos (Ferraris too). Beneteau/Jeaneau is the largest builder of sailboats. They have a factory in S. Carolina. They are used extensively in charter so there are always resale deals. They have top of the line engineering and use quality hardware. Actual construction may be a bit skimped. Hunters don't have as good a reputation but I could be happy with one. Don't know much about Catalinas, they are uncommon here. Mine is rather unique as it is very modern on the outside and 19th century on the inside with a L shaped kitchen. The vast majority of european boats use linear galleys which make no sense to me. I saw a 92 foot cruiser for sale for $600,000 which is a give away price. My dream boat. It requires tugs to move it on the intercoastal. Watch Captain Q, Yacht Hunter. He is pretty much exclusively in the North east. He comes up with lots of sailboats. When I bought mine I observed new boats depreciate at 10% a year for the first 5 years then level off so I bought at 5 years. Bigger boats have higher resale than smaller ones. The boat must be kept in good condition for resale. I bought mine cheap 23 years ago and have done many upgrades but the NADA value now is way above what I gave for it. If I were to sell I would ask what I bought it for. The price of new keeps moving higher.
How much like your bias if I want buy I like sailing go around the world ta
I’ve lived on a sailboat for several years. A Catalina 36. Most my life I’ve owned minimal stuff. Military and DOD contractor working around the world. During the 5 years as a DOD contractor everything I owned fit in a Ford Mustang. Only when I lived in a house did the amount of stuff I own increased dramatically.
As fall as your dishwasher goes maybe you could go on a diet with her. But it’s a hard subject to talk to women about.
Did this for a year or so when I was MUCH younger. Enjoyed it at first, but what got real old real fast for me was the constant having to move two or three things to get to what you want, then moving them back. Like every ten minutes. When I was able to, I moved back on land, but kept the boat another couple of years, but the two hours of work after going for an afternoon weekend sail finally soured me. I still loved sailing, but sold the boat and bought a much smaller trailer able one for those Saturday sails and the occasional weekend long boat camping trip.
That is definitely an issue! LoL. I have found that it really helps me to stay calm and focused because there is a realization that organization and cleanliness will alway be the priority and time will always dictate efficiency. Knowing that every item you need is always going to be at the bottom of a storage compartment helps also. SMH LoL
Looks like a great situation. The only caution I would raise here if for people to be aware that living in a depreciating asset means at some point you have to swallow a loss when it needs replacing. You need to ensure you are always saving enough money to afford a new home when one is needed.
I think that boat is pretty much fully depreciated at this point.
I am glad you enjoyed the video. While my boat was not intended on being a financial investment it does hold its value as an asset of personal enrichment.
THANK YOU for the honesty and HELPING people understand just how Affordable it can be to own and live on a sailboat
Sure you have to live "tiny"
but you can INDEED find Sailboats from the FREE price for a rough one or even $5000. for something decent or $10,000 can get you an EXCELLENT vessel in the 30-40ft range.
And Marina life is pretty cool if you get in at a cool place that is reasonably rated ( $400-750/mo )
You cant live waterfront ANYWHERE else for those rates and have your privacy within reason and meet some really cool people. I abhor these Sailing channels that try and make it seem like you need a $50,000 boat and it takes $1500 a month to upkeep and bla bla bla.
So many people live on cheap boats and live for $500 a month and are happy as hell.
So THANK YOU for showing a real aspect and just how it CAN BE DONE if you just take the time to hang around a Marina and find a Boat that has some storage owing or someone that just gave up their boat.
Sail On !!!
You are welcome! I agree, the first step is to find a marina that has some boats with back fees. The marina will most likely sell it simply to start gaining their money back in slip fees. My boat neighbors and the sailing community in general are some of the nicest and helpful people I’ve ever encountered.
@@Creative_Digitized_Solutions Just a quick question. Where do you park your car and how much does it cost to do that?
@@dogfood2525 The marina has a parking lot. It is free to park there. Long term parking at my marina would not be recommended as it’s not solely dedicated to my marina. Other marinas may have different parking situations though.
Congratulations on finding peace, it is priceless. 👍😎✌️
I have been living aboard a similar sized boat at a marina in Miami. It's my home, office, and sometimes even used for club racing.
I suggest two little changes in your plans: First, for the 5000 BTU a/c, instead of the trapezoidal wood wedges, use a strip of door insulation to keep the heat out. The left over insulation can be bunched up behind the fiddles to keep the condiments in place,
Second, add 10' (or whatever the length of the main salon is) of LCD lighting above each of the handholds; these come with a remote switch which you can velcro to the side of the companionway.
But the real test of whether you've got a sailboat or a floating RV is to see what stays in place when you sail. Guaranteed, once you reset stuff the second sail will be better than the first.
Sound advice! I do plan on redoing the AC set up. I actually bought it on a super hot day and simply used the foam packaging that came in the box to fill in the gaps. As for the LED strips, I literally bought two rolls of it and am planning on installing them after I redo the port lights. I am still in the process of stowing my gear for underway. I am sure I will learn a valuable lesson about what will stay put once I set sail. LoL
@@Creative_Digitized_Solutions
Good thinking with the packaging foam, but at some point you'll want something that compresses from 2" to 1/2". There will be two problems with the window unit AC, but they're easy to resolve. You might as well know them ahead of time.
You don't want to sail with the thing in place; it will slide either down the steps or onto the cockpit, scratching up either teak or fiberglass. I made a little sling (with discarded line) and take mine off by using the spinnaker halyard to lift it, swing it off the boat, and place it on the finger pier. My finger (access) pier happens to be on the boat's port side so my tiny house goes from being a sailboat to a cargo ship for a few minutes every time we sail.
Second, the condensate that comes off the AC will stain the cockpit sole. Either attach 8' of hose to the bottom of the AC so it drains directly to a cockpit drain or scrub the cockpit sole every other day with a bit of Clorox. Personally I scrub it down- part of being a clean freak.
Best of luck with living below your means. I have embraced the idea for years and love seeing others on the same... path.
Hi what Marina do you live at in Miami? Is it a full time?
@@starlightmckennah5241 Full time, Dinner Key Marina, a "green" Marina in Coconut Grove. There are pumpouts (every other boat) on every pier, and the hose they provide is long enough to reach the holding tank even if you dock bow in. Each pedestal has electric, water, and cable/internet hookups
I spend most of my summer aboard a Hunter 30 in the Midwest. I use a windowless AC 8000BTU. I vented it through the window in the head my first year and added a vent once I knew it would cool the cabin. I also use an old parachute canopy to shaded the deck from the afternoon sun
Yup, I’ve been living onboard in Norway for 8 years now for the reasons you stated and everyone of them are spot on. Kudos to you!
Thank you!
It’s not as simple as just buying a boat and living on it. And it can easily cost more than double the $400/month. Electricity costs extra. Liveaboard fees at my marina are $400/month on top of slip fees. Plus, maintenance on a boat is constant and not free. It’s a great lifestyle, but costs a lot closer to a one bedroom apartment than one might think.
That’s right
Just for docking fee is more than $800 already
When they live in the boat, how do they deal with waste???
I paid $600 for a non-liveaboard slip in Alameda
Poo Pumpers come as often as you need. They have a large tank on their boat.
We always motored over to the Pump/Clean water station at the marina
@@ginashen8974 if your boat is equipped with a holding tank, you can pump it out for free at several locations around the Bay or you might get lucky and have a Pumpout in your marina. Other people are capable of treating their waste or use composting toilets. Still others illegally dump overboard.
@@ginashen8974 Plus how do they deal with a hobby? Where do they store all the necessities for a hobby? Or do they just read books and surf the internet all day? I have the feeling this is getting old far sooner than most people would think. There is a reason people prefer to live in houses. This is essentially camping on the water out of necessity. If this was a large yacht with enough space, then it would be of course a bit different.
Now I know we've all heard of a bachelor crib but this man just took it to another level with a bachelor boat !
This is so feasible in warm weather areas. I would love this life. If you watch the weather, you can run away. It’s just like camping but a bit more dangerous.
I lived aboard my sailboat in Alaska and the super cold and snow was no inconvenience. It all depends on what you like.
I live on my self-sufficient sailboat in the Caribbean and spend around $1000 a month. The dream is achievable.
The thing is…people want to tell these stories…after they’re out it won’t be long before the government finds a way to make this option of living, more expensive.
I know a number of us are probably thinking "I couldn't live like that" - well, ask yourself how are you able to live in an apartment year after year? Even having a mortgage? Most modern apartments are over 2k/month JUST FOR RENT, we're not even including other expenses. If you were promised that you would save over 150k your first year living like this man does, I bet you would find a way to live like he does!
That's totally doable for 1 or 2 people. I was looking for a house in the beginning of the year, but the prices had already gone up so I looked at mobile homes and they were crazy as well. So, I bought a used 34 foot RV. My rent, elec, sewer, water, was $454 last month.
Love it, did the same 15 years ago for 4 years on east coast. Now caravanning around Africa.
We lived in San Rafael and kept a broad beam 32 foot boat at Sausalito. This was in the 70's but if we couldn't keep renters in the boat, the pirates were very bad at that time and we would have to take baseball bats down to the marina and reclaim our property from the pirates who were antagonistic and felt entitled to our boat. At that time, highballs were $ 0.62 on the Larkspur Ferry.
Lol pirates ☠ very funny.
The charge for piracy is life in prison!! Isn't that crazy!
I've always been surprised at how little theft of there is in a marina I have had a boat for almost 30 years in various San Francisco marinas never lived aboard and never lost anything
@@carlthomas3074how's it going now? Still doing ok at the marina?
I had a 25ft helms and it's name was "About Time".
What a brilliant interview and excellent way to conduct any interview.
Let your guest just talk and share their thoughts and it was so refreshing.
This man is living how I wish I could. You see I have a special needs son who requires 24/7 supervised care that only the wife and I provide. It could very well be a death sentence for him to live on a boat. There are times when we require immediate access to things like hospitals and his different doctors. So being isolated on a boat where it could take time to get him from the boat to the dock, then a vehicle or ambulance could literally be the difference between his life and death. He was born in '98 and my and my wife's lives have revolved around nothing but him ever since. The Lord chose us to be his parents and I have to think it's for a reason. He is mentally around the level of an 8 year old when most children begin to first question the whole Santa routine. Luckily for us he still believes and thinks that Jesus is Santa's boss. So every Christmas, all holidays really, he's super excited and joyful. He shares his joy with us which is truly beautiful and a blessing. So now being 56 with failing health I'm not sure I could still handle living my dream of being able to cruise the islands living on a smallish yacht. It's also something I know I'll never get to do with my son which is both a curse but one heck of a blessing in disguise.
Not sure why I shared all this here but this gentlemen made me realize how easy it would have been for me to do what he is as he lives his dream and best life.
I am so very thankful for my son even though I may not be able to live what I'd call my best or dream life but it's been replaced by something even more special...
Thanks for sharing. I prayed for you. Showing love to somebody who needs it is something I personally have been trying to do for several years, now. It will all be worth it, you also never know when those dreams you have might suprise you by showing up in your life unexpectedly.
Soul growth in Earth School. 😊 Your son is an Earth Angel. At any rate, he came to teach us unconditional love. I got a little of his love just from you describing him! You get all of it daily!
I believe in Santa too and I’m 68. The spirit of Saint Nicholas is real. Your son is right.
Lots of love to you and your family!🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
@@matthewmosier8439 That's an admirable way to try and live. Thank you for your prayers, God Bless...
@@i.m.7710 Thank you for the kind words and I'm sure Mason would be happy to give you a hug were you to ever meet him. If you promise not to tell the wife I'll let you in on a little secret? I still sorta believe in Saint Nich myself. 😁
God Bless...
Thank you so much for the kind words. I’m glad you enjoyed eating my interview. Having grown up with special needs kids and a brother with an autistic son, I can understand the dedication required to care for son. Some of my fondest memories and life lessons come from spending time with them. I envy your life and commitment. Hugs to you and Mason. 😊
I really admire your lifestyle. Great video and thank you very much for being honest.
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed it.
Late 70s and 80s was my Boat life experience. 70s House Boat and 80s Sail Boat. 🙂
I LOOKED AT THIS POSSIBLY IN RICHMOND MARINA PEACEFUL AT NITE SHOWER AT MARINA AND INEXPENSIVE BRAVOOO
$400/month in San Francisco with that much room is an absolute bargain. Granted, I never want to live in the bay area, but this guy is living life well.
It's not SF.
He's not living full time on this boat. He only get's 3 days a week. The wait-list for a full-time live aboard slip is often 5-10 years in the Bay Area.
@@stuwest5862 looks like delta with that boat shed in back.
thank you for explaining the truth ....i thought it was too good to be true@@brandonkindt1205
Love this! :) Me and my partner lived on a sailboat for around 3 years, and just recently upgraded to a Chris Craft so we can focus on fixing the sailboat! We both love living on the water and it creates such a wonderful atmosphere being able to live on boats. There's really nothin' else like it.
Cheers and much love from a fellow liveaboard :)
May I ask, do you own the boat?
@@wellwell_well yep! :)
I've lived in San Francisco for 30 years paying a ridiculous amount of rent, and now mortgage for a house. But it's always been my dream to liveaboard on a sailboat. I've known people who have done it, but they usually have to do it illegally as marinas here have very limited numbers of legal liveaboards. If I could do it legally, I would give up the house in a second.
15:11 I've had a perm slip, you just have to wait. If you wish to have a permanent home on that slip, you pick the size of slip first to match the boat you want, add yourself to the wait list, then buy your boat once it comes up. Most of the time it's around a year/year-half or so; the busier the faster. Keep in mind, depending on where you buy your slip, the county actually taxes you on it (yep, a slip = land to them). So you get two bills. One for the "land" and one for the "boat".
Monterey for example, $510 for the slip on a 30" (then +20 for electric and +20 for phone, etc) to harbormaster. Then two bills about 500-600 per year to the county (1. land[slip] 2. the boat [yes they tax you on that too separately]) -- that's what I paid. Still though, cheaper than everything else on a simple 30" sailer that is "sail-ready", "but needs work" which you probably got for $2k.
As you said, people give boats away like candy. The second they sit, it becomes an additional expense.
I’ve lived on a sailboat since 2015. I already owned the boat when I got separated from my ex-wife. I moved in thinking I was going to get an apartment. Looking at rent in my area I just decided to stayed aboard. I finally bought a condo in the spring of this year when I was told I would need surgery to be able to keep walking.
Unlike this guy I had a storage for most stuff and pumped out every weekend. Catalina 36 with stove, ice box fridge, & diesel heater. Even with storage the cost was half of basic cost of apartment rent. Basic slip fee is $430. There is also a live aboard fee and electric during the summer is more than he mention. Total cost avg ~$700 a month.
Thank you for sharing. The Catalina 36 is a great sailboat. Your cost estimation is pretty accurate for that size vessel. The major factor is how much time is spent onboard. I plan on using my bathroom (head) more in the future, I just find the marina to be quite convenient. Best wishes on your adventures.
@@Creative_Digitized_Solutions If my marina’s restrooms were closer I would have used it more. I would drive to the showers before I drove to work. It saved a lot of time over walking there and back. Plus going to pump out helps keep my docking skills sharp.
It was a few years ago, but I lived on a Chinese junk, on a mooring ball in San Diego Bay for $103 a month. I lived on it full-time. The three-day rule, where, he lives, would be a deal breaker for me.
Thank you for the comment. The three day rule for me is ideal for the time being. I enjoy the ability to move about freely and travel via other modes of transportation.
Expensive as California is that simple life he can definitely save a lot of money 💰 kudos to him
This is right down my alley. It is what is... true and real. Thank you sir
My pleasure! I hope you found this interview helpful.
THIS IS SOMETHING I NEED, Ive been looking for something small and affordable to live in just by myself out in the ocean or out in the woods it's my dream to do something like this and move out
Purchasing and maintaining a vessel isn’t exactly cheap, let alone the marina fees. It still has to sit in the water.
My folks retired back during the 2008 financial crisis on a 12 x 50 foot houseboat on the river. The upfront cost can be high, as can the maintenance, but moorage fees and utilities make up for it.
But why won’t I ever do it? I hate getting sick, but what’s worse, if I have to be sick, I hate doing so in an RV sized bathroom without a porcelain flush toilet.
@@aeroAdvocate it's not expensive either unless you start adding unnecessary equipment and electronics that you don't need. I've been living aboard my vessel for almost 6 years now and besides doing the bottom job every four or five years which cost me about $1,500 last time I did it I have only had to spend money on replacing solar panels that were damaged from a hurricane for $300. Besides that it has cost me nothing. Much cheaper than living at home.
When I was living in a marina it was only $250 per month all utilities included. Hardly expensive
I am glad to hear you found my interview informative. I hope your dream comes true. My dream is/was similar. I choose both (woods and water). I use my Tacoma to explore the woods and my sailboat for the water. Best of luck to you. 😊
I am a DAV and I deal with ptsd and my life on my boat helped SO MUCH...changed to the core. I am 100% with you brother.
What a great bloke👍
he is amazing Just the way he is very natural and can relate to everything he says
Thank you! I try to be honest and real.
@@USA4thewin Thank you! 😊
LIKE LIVING OFF THE GRID..I LOVE LOW COL IS HUGE FREEDOM USE TO SPEND 6WEEKS LIVING ON A BOAT..FULL TIME SLIPS YES TOUGH WAS PROBLEM FOR ME
What I remember living in the City is getting a slip was near impossible. The waiting list was so long they stopped taking new applications. If I recall the only way around all that was to buy a boat that already had a slip.
This is absolutely the case. While the Bay Area is quite extensive, finding a marina that has a boat with a slip already, will definitely be the easiest way to get your foot in the door, many sailors choose yo live in anchor or simply stay nomadic.
Yes !! Lots of real details were left out. Reading the comments people seem to think this is what they are going to do tomorrow. Good luck , you need a TON of cash to buy a boat that has a slip !!! No one giving one up cheap because they know you can’t get a slip in this lifetime.!
Ha Ha, on the CG 41' patrol boat I crewed on there was a strictly enforced rule. If anybody uses the head - that person cleans it out! I never saw that head used.
This guy is an inspiration.
Thank you so much! I am glad you enjoyed it.
What this man is saying, explaining, describing is actually a great way to
DOWNSIZE ONE'S LIFE
UNCLUTTER
REDUCE the amount of stuff accumulated and get down to basics. !
I live in a senior oriented building with studio-units and have no room....no need ....no desire for a ton of "possessions "..!
This guy is spot on....at 53 y/o I've kinda done the same reexamination of my "American dream" if you will....as a matter of fact I know that a lot of people are questioning the whole "more is better"/"bigger is better" complicated life drive this whole society has got us thinking we all need! It's bullshit! Now I've got a job I like doing, very modest house, vehicles & possessions that we take good care of, try to do our own maintenances and the best part is we're completely debt free....in the end I just traded money for time and my wife and I try to teach our young boys that things are going to run out in they're lifetime and to conserve and leave as light a footprint as possible and strive for self-reliance. What society should be teaching our children right now is about 180 degrees from what television ads are currently drowning us in now!
Well said! Bravo.
Yeah it’s not new. Everyone after you have achieved a certain level and buy the house and the cars and whatever realize that now you can afford it you don’t want it. 😂 Once you get to about 50ish you realize I don’t need all this, I want to live simple.
The suits in greedy, corrupt corporate America like it when we buy lots of things and compete with each other.
@@cconnon1912 While reading your comment I started to think about Jay Leno & all his toys. He can afford to pay others to do/maintain everything, which really makes a difference. But makes me wonder if he still goes Gaga over all his toys or got bored with them & just keeps them for the hell of it. Now at 50, I don't have the same desire for a bunch of cars,motorcycles & other toys like I wanted when I was younger. I realized 2 motorcycles & 2 cars, means 4 times the oil changes & other maintenance. If you don't keep on top of things, they'll slowly get ruined & you'll be out the money you paid for it. Everything you own, ends up starting to own you. Instead of wanting more, you start to want less. If you do have $$$ & can afford to pay everyone to do all your yard work,house cleaning,etc.. Then you have a house full of employees/strangers always coming & going. To keep an eye on & can't really just relax alone.
Right! Biggest example of this is the "storage unit", something that only is available in north america. The rest of the world isn't rich enough to pay to store things you don't have room for in your house. The funniest thing I see all the time is two vehicles worth $50K sitting in the driveway because the garage is full of junk.
That boat brought so many memories for me,… Ericson 32! Ive owned a few of them…. My last one was an Ericson 35, i lived in LA and the boat was in MDR, marina del Rey! I sailed those waters for over 20 years,. I miss sailing, that’s for sure, i moved out of state for so many reasons and this is the only one thing, the only one thing that to this day i still miss. It has been 2 years.
Im happy you found you, and you are doing what you want! Nothing more nothing less…. Life as you see it is simple, we always complicate it… congratulations Sailor! Ive also sailed many boats, many sunsets, and it is such a cool laid life. Congratulations!!!
Thank you for the kind words. I am truly fortunate to have found my joy. Life onboard this ol’ Ericson has made me a happier person without a doubt.
Okay. I've been thinking about downsizing and becoming a live-aboard for probably a year and a half, watching tons of videos trying to decide between a sailboat and a trawler, checking out docking fees, etc., etc. I watched this video mainly because this guy is supposedly living in San Francisco on a boat for only $400 a month. From my research, I was skeptical of that cost and wanted an explanation. Since I'm from San Diego, currently living in TN, I've checked fees for live-aboards at marinas in San Diego and it was quite a bit more expensive. In part, it's by the foot, so the length of your boat matters, and they tack a live-aboard fee ON TOP of the dock fee. Last I checked, for a 30- to 40-foot boat it would be more like $1,200 a month, with electricity, etc., extra -- if you can even find a slip! Of course, he FINALLY said he's technically a part-timer and has to get out every three days! Important distinction. When he said something about going on trips, I thought to myself, Not on THIS boat he's not. Then it turns out he flies or drives. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out his boat isn't even seaworthy! And getting a boat for anywhere from free to $100,000 is an interesting cutoff. Yeah, I'm sure you can find a free boat, but, believe me, it will only be free till you try to put it in operable condition, if you intend to operate it. And unless you're capable of doing the work yourself, that can be VERY expensive. Bottom line is this video leaves a lot to be desired in the info department. I'm glad for this guy if he's happy, but he comes off as pretty clueless as to the realities of traveling by sailboat. Luckilly, for anyone interested, there are tons of videos on UA-cam that are far more informative, and I highly recommend people do a lot of research.
It was recently publicized the marinas in SF are being bought up by condo developers and being closed with the boat owners being told to take a hike. I would be very nervous if I was this guy. Same thing happened in Florida.
Laurie, a live aboard for under $100k is very doable. If you use a broker, forget about it, they're not interested in helping you find a cheap boat. If you are really serious, search UA-cam for Captain Q, Yacht Hunter. He and his partner Randay search for bargains or unique boats, mostly sail but some power, and do a new video every Thursday. His videos speak for themselves, watch one and I think you'll be pleased.
So nice of you to not call that man a liar just to get clicks and maybe make some money..can't believe a thing on youtube these days..all lies all the time I wonder if he knows he will be known as a liar as long as this video is on here..and maybe people downloaded it...
@@rogersmith7396 If this video is only nine days old then where is he docking for $400? :)
You don't have to do sailboats, many people do vans or small trailers and move around on BLM land. Slab city down in southern California is also free.
LaFitte 44, had one for years, many miles and much enjoyment. Four solar panels took care of all of our electricity, and water making, at sea.
Nice sailboat! I look forward to getting a water maker.
I have a big house, Harley, Mercedes and a nice military retirement, and I’m jealous of him!
Thank you for your service. 😊
Good for you man. We all have two lives. Your first life and the life after you realize you only have one life.
Thank you! Awesome quote. 😊
so many youtubers i watch on the regular. i must say that you have to be the most genuine person that ive come across. i love your happiness brother , your goals , your aspect on life. yes! this is the life i want but cant have right now smh lol
Thank you so much! I am truly honored by your kind comment. 😊
You understand that this isn't the guy making the video, right?
@@jamesofallthings3684 I am the guy being interviewed.
Me too. Are you going to do it?
I lived aboard an 18ft sailboat for over 2 years and sailed it everywhere I could travel too. It was trailerable which means it doubled as my "caravan".. I think the difference is the sense of adventure. no marina fees. Even just stay at the boat ramps for a few days then move on 👍 whether it was coastal, bay, lake, river or caravan park or campground. It was great 👍
3 winters of live aboard in east side. It's not easy as it sounds because most marina do not accept live aboard i will say out of 10 marina probably 2/3 accept live aboard. Then beyond the monthly or annuals slips fees you have to add the bottom paint which at least once a years or so. Electric, water, internet bills for some , insurance, boat maintenance etc... plus when you buy an old boat it's never ending project because you want to upgrade things in your boat to make it nicer so every months you end up buying litte thing which at the end of the years cost thousand and thousands of dollars.
Be aware insurance is difficult on an old boat. Most will require surveys although mine does'nt.
I have that exact hot plate, but when I traveled a lot I had one of those Asian butane stoves(they don't give off carbon monoxide) and I could cook up feasts in my big rig or in a motel. My mom used one in her boat. Plus if its cold out ,the heat from the stove will keep you toasty while you cook and eat. Now with the hot plate and the butane, I've got dual cooking for boiling water and saute-ing the food.
Kudos for him mentioning Bums On A Boat. One of my favorite low budget DIY sailing channels.
I feel bad for joel. he is going through some crappy times. hope he keeps going.
@@TheCort1971 Not the first upset for Joel. Just another chapter. As far as sailing channels go, he could keep going to write many more channels before he is ready to retire. His is not the first channel to experience break ups. Where one goes afterwards really tells the tale. I hope he reboots into BOAB 3.0 with a new found joy of the lifestyle.
@@MrHellfinger I hope he does whatever is best for him, which may even be a path off youtube. But I'll be excited to see where he goes, people doing work on themselves is prime content creation.
Why, What happened to Joel , Michael,, They broke up?
@@waynecote976 Yes, then he started sulking and talking about how he is NOT A BUM and that he needs to change up his life blah, blah, blah. Rather than carry on, he ran back to WA state to be near her. Watch Sailing Good, Bad and Ugly instead. Truly inspirational and way more upbeat.
he aint a baot dealership , he is describing his usage. its much more detailed if he wanted to or had to.. but non the less i love this lil set up
Great job man! What a life!!!
This mans living the dream of many men me included
I checked around redwood city , etc. There is a waiting list to get a spot for your boat
I raced tint and crewed sailboats around the world and always thought is live aboard . Getting older but still would do it .
Good for you!! Have fun and do what you want!! Congratulations!!
Thanks! That is my plan. 😉
82nd all the way brother!! Love seeing you live your life the way that makes you free!!!
Im in board ⚓⛵😁 new subscriber
This person made my smile 😃👍🏻 his offering help for anyone..and that's a truly wonderful... truly Gentleman...so interesting hearing from his prospective...this is something very new to my. Exploring a new idea & meaning of life ... thanks guys..thank so much
Greetings from kingdom of Saudi Arabian 🇸🇦🌴
I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for the kind words. 😊
my friend lives the same way over in Richmond area.. pretty cozy
I’m so blessed to have paid only 90 grand for my house. My mortgage payment is about $500 a month. The catch is that I live in Ohio. Oh how I love Ohio!
I'm so Bless to live in my home in California it cost me only 100,000 dollars I put down 30,000 my monthly payment is 650.00 a month I'm retired love it nice neighborhood I can cook just about anything I want thank you Jesus Christ his my savior God is good 👍😊👍👍
He has the same boat as Sailing Uma. Love this boat, but seeing his original just goes to show how much sailing uma was customized. I want one of these
All the best mate, on your own condition.. more power to you.. cheers mate.
Thank you! I am finding that living life on my own terms has been quite invigorating.
Invest in an Engle chest. It can be a refrigerator or freezer. whichever you want. You can slide it under the table or even sit on it as extra seating. We have 1 on our 12M Catalac as well as the small refrigerator/freezer that came with the boat. When we start cruising we may get a 2nd Engle so we can dedicate one to freezing stuff and one as a refrigerator. Yeah, they aren’t cheap but they run forever, have no moving parts, are quiet and are energy efficient. By the way, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU SIR FOR LIVING THE LIFE MOST OF US ARE TO AGRAID TO LIVE. And thank you for inspiring the rest of us by sharing what you have learned.
Yeah, around $1500 😳
I will definitely be looking into an Eagle Chest. Thank you for the info and the complement 😊
Been there done that. Ugh… no thanks, never again. Cold, dreary, wet condensation in winter, hot, stuffy baking in the summer. Cant go anywhere cause fuel costs so much. Electricity is ridiculously expensive. You have to carry everything down to your boat, empty your toilet and waste somewhere. Hopefully everyone around you is quiet, no meth addicts working on their boat at 2 am… good luck getting police or any harbor security coming to enforce anything. Crime is really bad, people paddling around quietly at night stealing anything they can get their hands on. Yeah… so many downsides they outweigh the good things. Granted it’s not like that everywhere but it’s not all rosy either.
So you are talking of the Nirvana of California no?
Those are all legitimate issues with boat life. While I do have heaters, moisture absorbers, AC, dock carts, an electric bill that hasn’t been I’ve $40, and low fuel consumption, I am aware that without those items it could get quite uncomfortable.
Very cool, but the only thing I can't wrap my head around how you dock there for $400 / month in California -- San Francisco at that. Nice score.
Thanks. The Bay Area is quite extensive and has many marinas at all different price ranges. The marinas usually charge by the length of the vessel.
I live in an a 30 foot RV and I love it! I also want to live on a boat a few months out of the year and this video was amazing thank you!
Thank you Izzy! I have watched some of your content and think you are on a great adventure. I hope our paths cross some day. If you ever have any questions about boat life, don’t hesitate to reach out.
You don’t have to please anyone else only yourself I like your tiny home it’s ace, quality. May you live a long and Happy for filled life my friend
Thank you! I hope your life is full of happiness as well.
Stepping over the air conditioner to get in-and-out does not sound like a good idea
It’s well worth the inconvenience on a hot day 😂
I lived on San Diego bay before they evicted everyone in the 80s. I lived out on a separate dock with a little shed on it that I needed a dingy to get to, it was so peaceful as it rocks you too sleep.
🤣"dirt only comes in one way"🤣
In the 1980s My wife and I and our dog and cat lived on a Hans Christian 33 for 8 years in Sausalito. I commuted to financial district on the ferry and then commuted to a new job in Scoonmaker marina on my dingy. Great chapter in my life.
The Hans Christian had a walk in shower, marble counter tops, 100 gallons of water, queen size berth and guest cabin. A great live aboard
I adore the Hans Christian vessels. I would love one. I too commute using Bart, Ferries, my truck and even my kayaks.
Wow!.a man lives on a boat in S.F.can you imagine such a thing!
Its because hes only paying $400 in one of the most expensive cities in the world......duh
The Bay Area is quite extensive and has many marinas. Owning a home is also an advantage.
I love this. As soon as my kids are doing there own thing this is what my wife and I are doing. It’s either this or camper life traveling
Just wanted to let people know about having a " home base aka an address. Many times you can ask the people who own/operate the marina to use theirs. You can even put out an add asking someone with a home apt etc and offer a small fee " for their trouble" check out cheap rv living on UA-cam by Bob Wells just look for the video about having a home address. Unfortunately with SSI checks drivers license etc you must have a home address for many different reasons. Another thing is if you have a school age child/children look to the homes in that area and write down everything about why you need a home address and put up notices in church all public places and you can even put it on the homes in the school area that you like. Many people will have no problem letting you use their address for this after finding out the reason. ❤ you can save some serious $$ living this way for a while then put a huge down payment on a house etc
Well I have a property address to mail to but the psychos who used to run this marina went bezerk when I had mail delivered here. The women was a paranoid schizophrenic. Never did that again.
@@rogersmith7396 yikes check out Bob's video on that subject its on cheap rv living. I think that having an address ( at that marina) you can get a po box to have your mail sent to your p o box since you have an address at least that's how it was if the rules haven't changed
@@marymarmande8446 PO boxs are not acceptable to a lot of organizations including employers. If it was an address with a slip number delivered to the boat it would probably be OK.