What’s interesting to me is that her emotional pallet is basically what people perceive as perfection and similar to how many people imagine heaven. No fear, sadness, guilt, fear of judgement etc. it’s almost like psychopathy, which we almost universally recognize as an inhibitor of progress in life is also the goal we’ve set for ourselves. I wonder, if it were possible for a person to experience her reality for a short period of time, if it would be as euphoric as someone might imagine the absence of negative feelings to be, or if it would be a terrifying memory. The human mind is a strange thing.
Yes, its called lack of empathy. If i do something bad to someone else and then feel bad cause of it i might not do it again. And others might not do it in the first place cause they can already anticipate that it will make them feel bad and not be worth the emotional stress. That + laws etc. helps civilization to work on a certain level. If noone would really care and just make decisions without ever involving empathy.. i think during covid 19, if we had a house of 10 psychopath world rulers, they would have just let most of the old people die, etc. cleaned house a bit with the people that are not needed.
This is why so many people idolise psychopaths and have such irrational ideas about them, even when said psychopaths would stab them in the back at first opportunity. They envy their complete immunity to any limiting societal psychological factors in their lives. It sounds "alpha" and "assertive" to not care about what others think, and this appeals to our monkey brain. However, living as a psychopath is not heavenly. If you look into it, psychopaths are very prone to depression and boredom because their lives are so devoid of meaning and value. They cannot connect to other people, they cannot find joy in interacting with society, they don't care about other people's happiness, hell, even ideals like humanity's happiness are irrelevant to them (most fictional psychopaths have a strong rational moral compass - real psychopaths don't). They get most of their entertainment from chasing adrenaline and sadism, whether physical or psychological (such as ruining innocent people's lives). So no, it wouldn't feel heavenly. It looks heavenly to people who think psychopathy is just doing whatever you want, but any normal person would find this existence empty. It would feel like living in a world completely devoid of people.
May be being honest in this minute, but she’s leaving out a lot. She says it’s painful to be a teenager with feelings so it was easier for her because she doesn’t care about what other people think of her. They don’t only not care about what people think of they just don’t care about others at allor anything psychopaths are never honest
there isn't anything like "psychopath charm" it's media invention to make the title of the illness more mysterious. The "psychopath charm" if you feel any is probably just natural confidence, and it's in no way more "charming" than any of the naturally confident and empathetic peoples charm is.
@@mayastrong4646 they can be honest if they internally see that as a goal/succes but its not motivated by caring and wanting to preserve intimacy with others, just a way to either not be disturbed or feel superiour
Psychopaths are afraid of only one thing: the exposure of how truly dark their nature really is compared to those of us with the capacity to feel empathy and care for others around us. That's why psychopaths operate through charm and manipulation rather than honesty. Expose a psychopath for what they really are on the inside and watch as they run to another place where the people don't know their true nature. Sadly this is from experience and I have seen how quickly they can run and manipulate others when they are caught.
Psychopaths rationalize emotions and that's what makes us go thru life without people even noticing it. That does not mean that we're immoral or evil or willing to hurt people. But yes, there are those with complete absence of empathy, they don't necessarily need to be psychopaths.
@@SLqB11 You are rationalizing morality. If you do not have empathy or if you've never chosen to help others and instead, put yourself first, you are indeed, evil. With all due respect, my suggestion is to speak with a vetted, Christian Pastor. My suggestion is to ask Jesus into your life. Mark chapter 12 verse 30 through 31. Romans chapter 10 verse 9 through 11. Also, Mark chapter 9 verse 23
Not caring what people think is very freeing. That is one thing we can learn from psychopaths. But I draw the line at giving up your sense of kindness, compassion and empathy for others. We must hold on to that. A way you can learn from them is let’s say someone criticizes you for something like eating too much or not cleaning your house..something that doesn’t hurt anyone…smile and don’t care.
That has nothing to do with how psychopaths approach life. You are still using your sense of empathy, but reinforcing it with rationality to determine whether certain things are truly morally unacceptable or merely the result of intimidation tactics by narcissistic or insecure individuals. Psychopaths don't evaluate what they do on any moral basis. If it benefits them, it's good, if it doesn't, it's bad. Torturing someone just because it might make their day less boring is perfectly fine. The reason why they smile and don't care is because they think of everyone else as pawns and objects.
Naw, you either have them or you don’t. Human emotions aren’t really things you can just turn on and off. Also overeating and being dirty are degenerate behaviors, so if people are criticizing you for it, it’s probably gotten to a point where it needs to be evaluated
@@nikobitan7294As someone who meets a lot of the criteria (admittedly undiagnosed)-there can be a “moral code.” But it’s entirely based on what I believe in, not what anyone else believes in. It is hard to wrap my mind around the idea that people who make it easy to manipulate them don’t deserve it, though.
I applaud her honesty regarding her as a psychopath I know most narcissists can’t even be honest to others at all including there partners I wouldn’t trust her still I appreciate her honesty and it’s better you tell people who you really are that way you won’t have high hopes to be possible into someone life because sometimes people want friends and enjoy someone company with a psychopath you won’t get any friendship with them at least a real friendship with them your going to be disappointed and let down because they won’t be there when you need them by your side especially in a worst case situation like a passing of a loved one.
thats because narcs get supply from others and have to cause havoc and submission in others to feel in control and powerfull themselves. A psychopath doesnt care about your feelings, they dont excert themselves to hurt you, only when its convenient for them and there will be no darkness just the rage of you standing in the way of what they want, its totally impersonal. She doesnt need to lie bc she doesnt need others peoples trust bc she doesnt need a relationship to get supply. Being honest is just easier and met with less resistance or a challenge they set themselves. Narcs lie bc they need something from us
Everyone saying that not feeling negative feelings would be great and that not caring what others think would be great. It’s actually really isolating and affects relationships to friends and family because they won’t feel you care about them when you are failing to grieve with them and when you are turning a blind eye to their worries.
Many people are in a current crisis, or haven’t developed adequate tools (are young or immature) so it seems like turning off all emotion is the solution to life. I love my feelings, even the difficult ones. They guide me and inform me of things that are important.
@@izdotcarter its not so much about feelings as it is about heart. They numbed their heart and sense of being through that. That is what gives our lives depth, freshness and meaning
It's really interesting to see that she clearly has a complete understanding of empathy and although she might not feel it, she might still display signs of showing or giving empathy towards something especially how she mentioned going through school for others must've been really hard. That in itself is her showing empathy.
There's been a study showing that psychopaths can, to a very limited degree, put themselves in someone's shoes, but in practice they just use that to predict and manipulate people better. They have no real understanding, or desire to understand what the person themself is feeling. That's not really empathy. Empathy implies relating to a person and having *some* connection to their feelings, achievements, values. I may not jump from joy when a complete stranger gets cured of cancer, but I understand that it's a good thing. And I can understand these emotions and values even if they don't directly lead to benefits for me. Not so for psychopaths. If you think you're seeing empathy it's either because they've learned to superficially say these things in an emphatic way, or they're intentionally lying to make you trust them. In the example you mentioned, psychopaths are defined by narcissism so they think that normal people are inferior and pathetic for having lives and experiences of their own, and will rationalise using them as playthings if they are not directly useful to them (not out of any moral justification, mind you, but moreso when objectively explaining what makes them target them). I imagine "I don't know how you got through high school..." is a way of wording that mentality in a more politically correct package.
Yeah, it is interesting. She does have cognitive empathy, but not emotional empathy. Essentially she just reads people, without feeling what they’re feeling. No doubt therapy has helped her converse in a way that is more palatable for normal people as well. It’s advantageous to her to sound relatable, even if only superficially.
That's not clear at all. Sure, she knows the language around it and definitions she's read or has been told, but she's telling you point blank that she doesn't actually know what those things are actually like, necessarily.
It's called cognitive empathy and yea, it's a lifesaver for us. We might stumble a few times but it's always possible to learn where you went wrong, especially since when you're like this from birth and you can passively study your classmates as they age
As someone with autism, I wish I would care less about what other people think and dare to take more risks. It's kind of inspiring to hear that it doesn't have to be that way. Even if I would never want to renounce every form of empathy.
I'm hyper sensitive with depression/social anxiety and I kinda envy her with not giving sh*t about nothing,what others think,no need for affection or having friends..just being happy all the time..
Same, although I don't think I would trade it for "feeling" music. I tried antidepressants for a while and although it was a break from the downs, I did miss the ups of *feeling* music.
well thats all emotions and they do have some but what give depth to our being is our heart, not our emotions. When you are at peace there isnt only the absence of fear but the presence of love and wellbeing. They feel they dont exist
In another she describes about how she tried to killed a possum and the funny part is that I've spoken with another psychopath before personally and let's just say she's probably one of the lower end of violent psychopaths which may seem surprising to many people
@@seasons1974 I'm quite sure she is a factor one prosocial (Good relationship with her parents and so forth) psychopath. Sociopath is an older word for psychopath, but today it means factor two psychopath. And they can often be more "emotional" and show anger and even some anxiety in public. Sociopaths are not always manipulative or narcissistic, but they fulfill some of the other psychopatic traits instead.
I think this series is pretty incredible. I would applaud her vulnerability, but then again, she technically doesn't have that, because it would require her to feel a sense of susceptibility to judgment. Which also begs the question - is it ethical to put this on display? Because she can't feel the exploitation, but in a way, could it be like putting someone up with a low IQ and them not understanding the stakes of what they are saying? She might not be understanding the social implications of the things she is saying and how many people might see her as a societal nuisance or worse...
I don't see a problem with this. She doesn't feel emotions, but that doesn't mean she doesn't understand them. She knows, given how smart she is, the implications better than you and I, I'm pressuming.
I'm sure she knows how psychopaths are perceived by the general public, she's had to deal with it in her life, but doesn't care. She seems very capable of consenting, she shouldn't be treated like someone akin to a child who shouldn't be allowed to do interviews because it might reflect poorly on her, she has the right make choices too.
Except those things you would be "free" to do, might put you in prison. It's fear that prevents you from hurting someone if they offend you. Now imagine that fear isn't there...
Im a psycopath but if you meet me youd never know i didnt even know i was blind to it you wholdent tell the diffrience we do get scard to we just think its fun i heard someone say its like if a normul person got super drunk like the mind lack sense but youre super energtic like you driving a car with super speed i never noticed that i tought i had ptsd but im kinda ready to run from danger all the time like danger is alwayes around youre very susspicuse but you also think life is great at the same time think of it like this youre in a forest its very dark and infront of you there is a gaint paython snake and he cant kil you he is not allowed he can kil everyone els but not you becuse the snake is you but when the snake looks around everyone looks like him so he trys and live a normul life
I think anyone who judges and disparages this woman, for who she is, needs to look at themselves. Being vulnerable and baring your soul to the world takes courage and humilty. (Even of they can't feel it) Everyone wants to be accepted in the world. I've just 'come out' myself. Being a covert narcassist. Alot of things she spoke about I could relate to. It's refreshing actually to know there are other damaged souls out there who are going through the difficult journey of changing themselves. All we want to feel is 'normal' and develop a sense of self... Its a horrible knowing, you feel depressed and empty all the time. If you are reading this, please try and put yourself in this lady's shoes. Yes, she may have odd reactions such as smiling at inappropriate times, but why zoom in on that. Why not be grateful to her for opening up which would inevidetably help millions of people either protect and educate themselves. If you were a psychopath would you be game to publically open up, knowing the stigma? It makes me angry reading negative comments on people who are being real. Rather we praise and idolise celebrities who are more fucked up as everyone else. But they wear the mask because thats how they want to be seen'. I can speak from experience that i was so fearful telling anymore let alone admitting i had a personality disorder. Because i thought i would loose all ny loved ones. It was quite the opposite. I received more love and compassion. Because for the first time in my life, i was being 'real' with myself and others. That inspired me to really own the fake person i developed. Ive learnt that we cant change unless we accept, forgive ourselves and let go... So i can build a new person. And confident i will through the Dhamra path and meditation. Somehow society idolises people who seem to be happy and have their shit together. Holding onto a facade for the outside to see. I think of most celebrities... How miserable, self absorbed they are. The pressure to keep up the smiles... Fake fake fake. Yet we idolise them. The poor celebs probably dont even know they are suffering. Then they kill themselves because they see their emptiness and dont know how or where to get help. So please try and have compassion for us. Even those who havnt recognised it within themselves If you have been burnt over by a psychopath or narcassist, im sorry to hear that. Ive burnt people also. Im not proud of it, and certainly feel shame. But the one thing that can cripple a narcassit is compassion. So please people, show your support to this amazing woman. She is giving the world a great gift by sharing. And giving a voice to the other f*** up suffering souls out there like myself, to recognise these patterns within themselves too and seek therapy also. Jessica - Brisbane/ Australia
It shows how not having emotional empathy or fear can make you do destructive things and not care. People can numb their fear and emotional empathy (in the short-term anyway) through multiple ways, whether it's by brainwashing, drugs, or even feeling intense emotions like anger, but psychopaths have that fear and emotional empathy switch permanently off, which makes them potentially far more dangerous than the average person.
Yeah, it's like when leprosy damages the nerves that let you detect pain, and then you injure yourself because you don't realise you're touching something hot until you smell burning... empathy is society's version of those nerves. Would society even work without empathy?
dangerous, but also stupid. empathy and fear helps our survival. hence psychos aren't as equipped for survival as they are presented, which is ironical.
Her fear switch is not permanently off, otherwise she would have already become dangerous. She fears repercussions just anybody else. Listening to her for two minutes, I know I would never trust her, but in my opinion, emotional people are far more potentially dangerous.
Psychopaths do not have the same relationship with fear as non-psychopaths. She said she has regretted things, but only because it didn't work out for her, and even though she knows she's a danger to herself, she doesn't care and would welcome death. That doesn't sound like someone who experiences fear.
@@danman6612 What it sounds like and what it is are two different things. Many people master their fear and just as many don't experience fear until it's too late. What you describe is a conditioned response. Statistically, a person who truly didn't experience fear would probably not survive into adulthood since it is an essential survival tool. If she truly welcomed death, she would already be so.
I suffer from Dysthymia, and have had many depressive crises throughout my life. By the way, I'm fighting against one right now. I envy her for not suffering because of what other people think and how they treat you. That's a big part of depression.
um I've been dealing with depression caused by PTSD for my ENTIRE LIFE and have literally been hospitalized for it and no one has used the term "dysthymia" around me before..... THANK YOU. This seriously seems to hit the nail on the head of the specific type of persistent depression I experience. And I'm dealing with a really bad "flare up" currently. This comment just gave me so much solace because I can now delve deeper and research more. Thank you, I really can't say that enough.
@@TheRainbowGal I wish you the best. I've been better lately, with the help of Logo therapy in the writings of Dr. Viktor Frankl, especially 'Man's search for meaning'.
It's so fascinating listening to her explain her experience. I wonder what it's like to be in a monogamous relationship with a psychopath. Whether such a relationship could be satisfying and how it would be governed. Perhaps through utility, perhaps through contract - perhaps through love?
BTDT You realize you have no "relationship", you are just an object, they bond to no-one. It "satisfying" until you realize it's all fake, they are just using you. Note this woman is waring a mask, this is NOTHING like what she is in reality. If you want to learn more, never learn it from a psychopath, it's a million lies. They tell you what you might want to hear.
Psychopaths don't feel love. They can feel some entertainment from interacting with others (on a more muted level, given that they lack access to deeper emotions that people use to connect with things on a more complex level) but it's the same feeling you might get from playing in a sandbox. It's completely devoid of any deeper meaning, and chances are you'll get bored quickly. If one day their partner stopped being useful to them, i.e. they got bored of them, or the partner refused to do them favours, or the partner got injured, and at the same time the psychopath decided they're really curious to see what the inside of a human looks like, they'd do it without a second thought. The only thing that would stop them is the threat of jail, or the lack of future benefits they could squeeze out of the person.
I was diagnosed with aspd and i can say with a good amounts of certainty that a psychopath atleast in my case cant really form an emotional bond like love but i can form a bond through enjoying being around you like a friend, However in the case of a relationship the treatment would be more inherently personal and maybe sexual ergo, i must display affection. like @nikobitan7249 is saying. I cant truly be affectionate but i can enjoy being around you enough that in my mind the affection i would show you can be used as a payment to further keep said relationship. The bond that may occur would likely be something like: "this person makes me happy so i will keep them happy so they do not leave" and "if i they do not make me happy i will leave". yes it is a bond which is emotional but not on the same level as a normal person would. Its very self serving and the affection you would receive would not be real affection but more of a tactic to keep you around to continue to make me happy. making you happy and feeling loved is just a method of achieving my own happiness and if i did not need to do that. I would not
@@nikobitan7294 Psychopaths aren't all the same. Like with any other disorder, there's a range. Some actually desire to, and live a pretty normal life, with a partner, trying to be normal and good.
After listening to a few psychopatha now. I am amazed how they seem to talk in a similar way. So fluent and easy and compelling, but feels like the same person talking.
My ex would look off to his right like that too. Before I realised what a liar he is, I always wondered why his body language looked like he was uncomfortable... this lady is exactly the same
that's a myth. it's true that right-handed people _might_ look to their right when fabricating a story, as a left-handed person, i do the opposite. some right-handed people can function the way i function, and some can literally look you in the eye while lying
This rule (which is hardly true), is not something you want to rely on with us. Do you really want to pretend that we feel any shame when we lie to you?, we can look at your eyes perfectly fine and make all the right expressions, that's simply all there is to it. If someone is a bad liar, they won't be grounded in truth and there will be fault in the story, look for those faults and confront the person with it, know how they will attempt to spin it around on you, so make sure you're ready to defend your point calmly.
To clarify... its not a rule that they look a certain direction every time, I worded that badly. I just noticed at times he seemed awkward like that. Absolutely right, they can look at you with direct eye contact and lie blatantly to your face. Eventually I learned his routines and caught him out red handed or on email enough times that I couldn't trust a single word he said. There would be the sympathy manipulations where he would tell me I was the only one who cared about him, while he was organizing sex with another random hookup. Friends fathers who died/'funerals attended ' so he could go on dates, work trips etc etc. Just gross. It was the best and absolute worst time of my life, and the charmer has since made a point of trashing my reputation as much as he could. Just gross.
Not a sign of lying. People Look to The right when they imagine how to relay information in The Form of a story. It's used when a broad generalization IS made. Details are omitted so that a general view IS given. The exceptions to a rule are Are added later.
It’s so fascinating to see a psychopath talk knowing it is one, but also understanding that they’re speaking truth and not lying. I have met a couple psychopaths before and they had the sort of same kind of thing(?) when they would tell absolute truths or be completely honest, you could just kind of tell.
I read some reviews by her former students. Her name was Jamie Lund, though she may have changed it to Townshend. I don't know what she does now, but few law firms will hire someone who admits to this on the web. They say that she had a creepy stair when she was a law school instructor.
Why? She's probably the type who defends corporations, busts unions, draws up eviction notices even when they're illegitimate, fights veterans not get their benefits and their widows
I find her sporadic lack of eye contact interesting. She makes eye contact briefly but the majority of time she focuses her gaze off to the right. I interpret that as her not wanting people to really make a connection with her.
0:45 ‘most of the time I would be feeling things like uhhh.. joy.. you know the happy ones right?’ This truly conceptualises how a psychopath doesn’t feel anything positive. Her happiness, joy, charisma is all a facade. She has no way of describing the emotions, because she has never felt them. So the way she describes them, compared to the other descriptions of other things she does, Is lacklustre.
@joanarc7963Yes, it’s astounding to think that they don’t feel anything at all. Nothing. Emptiness. Just as you and I feel remorse for an innocent soul in distress, individuals such as her have no such capabilities of doing so. This of course raises the moral question of whether they should be allowed to raise children. Saying yes could potentially mean passing on these Machiavellian and narcissistic tendencies on said children. Saying no could be countered by the question of whether or not it is even their fault to begin with, that they have been inflicted with such a curse of the mind and soul.
I believe it would be like a fish in water not "feeling" or "knowing" it is in water. So neither euphoric nor traumatic. Consider you fear heights while another person fears mushroom. Or that you enjoy the smell of onions while another does not. If you were to then trade bodies, your new lack of fear of heights and disgust of onions would now just register as "normal" to you.
I would really like some help identifying a possible Psychopath! He manipulated me so completely that I honestly still can't tell what was real and what wasn't... And my strength is behavior analysis! I don't know if there's just people who carry traits of Psychopathy and are simply extremely manipulative? Or if being surrounded by God fearing people his whole life would force him to have a better moral compass! Or if it was all pretend and He's just an extrEmly good actor, liar, and manipulater.
Sorry to hear about your experience. They can be extremely manipulative and quite good at it depending on where they are on the spectrum. I had a bad experience. Took me 10 years to wrap my head around it. Its mind boggling how good they get with time with their games.
Bravery? Not on her part. One can only be brave if one has fear. Ergo, psychopaths can't be brave. If anything, this is an experiment for her out of curiosity
As the ones above me has stated, we cannot be brave. Being brave inherently means that a person is afraid and is still capable of overcoming such a thing. The correct term would be fearless although that's not always the case, phobias are actually something that can affect us normally.
The feeling of utter emotional morality dissonance. The lack of guilt prohibits her feels of the sense of wrong or “immoral” conduct of her actions . Much as when a child gets spanked for a bad action, the child would feel guilt or shame from the punishment, much like her she would question why the actions would be reprimanded and quickly dismiss it . Strange but fascinating
I'll tell you what it's like - it's great; you don't have emotions getting in the way of day-to-day activities. Your obviously disconnect from some people (e.g. people don't understand why your not upset about something that they are upset about), but I've found the emotions like empathy are there, you just have to "turn them on". Likewise with fear - your brain doesn't see an issue with a particular task/situation, but the body is signaling that something is a really dumb idea so you kind of have to turn on the emotions to see if there is fear and, if so, why.
OMG I'm a psychopath! I relate to what she is saying. I try really hard to emulate how others feel and I feel my best when I just dont care its trying to care the way they think I should that causes me to get off kilter. I only do it anyway because I know its what I should do according to others.
Oh ya I love going fast too! I feel things when I go fast I dont feel anything most of the time. My motorcycle is broke down atm and I really want to ride it FAST!
Keep Occam’s razor in mind as the narrative shifts with these individuals. Pay attention to the sequence of ideas being presented, the intentions behind them, and the outcomes they aim to achieve from you. Observe the condescending tone and demeanor in their speech and actions, as well as the patronizing attitude and smirk. Always remember who you’re dealing with-apply Occam’s razor.
She could also be completely deceptive. A couple hallmark traits of psychopathy is lying and adjusting their behavior to make those around them believe a certain agenda that will somehow benefit them. Sure, she’s copping to not having empathy… doesn’t mean she’s being truthful about everything she’s saying. She flat out says she doesn’t care what others think of her, so how is anyone supposed to believe a word she says? Not saying that she’s 100% being deceptive … just saying there’s a good possibility.
@@wutwaVo542 y’know, you’re right, maybe I dove in too quickly with judgement. I’m just a little gun shy having experience with someone with ASPD who tormented me most of my life (and constant lying was a big part of that) . It’s difficult to come out of that experience and not think that everyone else who shares the diagnosis isn’t always lying. My trust had been obliterated. And it’s going to take a lot of work to heal that. My legitimate apologies. Not sure how my comment makes me “passive-aggressive” or a “gossiper”… but I can admit when I’m wrong.
@@wutwaVo542 Hey, I really appreciate you sharing that and I can totally understand how my first comment came off as insensitive. I can’t imagine what that’s like to have those traits and live with the widespread stigma that ASPD is attached to serial killers and criminals. So I understand your defensive and barbed response. The thing is, I’m actually well aware that ASPD is on a spectrum, like anything else, and that it’s rare for sociopaths and psychopaths to be violent or criminal offenders. I have been following Athena Walker’s Eye of the Storm Substack for about a year… (if you’re not familiar, look her up!), so, tbh, I surprised myself with my initial comment. I thought I was trying to be unbiased by saying: she may or may not be deceptive. But that comment was really a snap judgement based on my own personal experience from a family member who I strongly suspect has ASPD, that has left me angry and traumatized … and with very little trust. (Also, I guess i was under the impression that it’s uncommon for those with ASPD to have insight/awareness into their disability. And, if they do, to seek help. Please correct me if I’m wrong about that). I do have to say, though, that my experiences are very real and I’m not alone. As I said, I have a close family member who has emotionally (and a few times physically) abused me since I was a very young child. He’s stolen from myself and my whole family my whole life (he’s wiped out whole bank accounts); he’s a pathological liar and a master manipulator; and he 100% can never admit to any sort of wrongdoing, no matter how small. He can break into terrifying rages at the smallest insult to his ego or if accused of anything. I could go on and on. To my knowledge he’s never been diagnosed with ASPD and I know that I can’t diagnose him but ever since several years ago, my therapist suggested to me that he seems to have traits of ASPD , I’ve obsessively been researching the subject and I’m willing to bet a lot of $ that he’s a sociopath. And he really only unleashes his “terror” (for lack of a better word) on those closest to him (ie his family, his ex-wife, probably his current wife, his son…) otherwise he is very charming, very intelligent, very funny. Just wanted to let you know where I’m coming from. So, anyhow, again, I apologize to you and to the subject of the video. I really appreciate getting to exchange our stories to better our understanding. Going forward, I will be conscious to speak my opinions with more sensitivity and a much more open mind. I wish you well.
These videos kind of scared me to see... Truly honest question: How far from normal do you perceive these people to be ? On a scale of 1-100 1= these people articulate how I am and see the world exactly. This is the normal way i perceiving things 50= these traits are extremely subtle and it would be extremely difficult to differentiate them from the avg everyday person. 10= this is unimaginable to think this way, how does a person think like this?
She feels regret because whatever she had done depicted her in a negative light or it had repercussions that weren't conducive to her cause or selfish agenda but not for the pain it caused others.
You can't pu ish a psychopath. The one thing they HATE is exposing them. They love social status. They hate when you expose their weakness. They hate being told they are wrong. They almost never admit when they are wrong. They seem to love status.
@johntate5050 calling myself a psychopath is defining who I am by antisocial personality disorder. Being defined by a disfunctionis simply something i refuse to do. It is nice however Knowing there are others who expirence things the way I do.
@kceline123 I never had any real childhood trauma. I simply observed that I was different from other people, and now I know why. I count it as a blessing not to feel the same social pressures that everyone experiences.
Being neurodivergent and hypersensitive (empathy, smell and sound), I'm kind of envy of her but at the same time, it must be equally hard to still care for your friends but be unable to connect with them at an emotional level. As a defence mechanism, I shot myself down emotionally and I'm still working on it today with my therapist so I get it a tiny bit.
Are all of her smiles and giggles fabricated? And if she wear to remove the "mask" wouldh she just be sitting with a stone cold face, explaining things with no contrast?
@@wishesandfishes They generally feel positive emotions from adrenaline, extreme excitement, sadistic joy etc. It's unlikely to be merely from interacting with a person, since everything they feel is so muted, and most of happiness we get from interaction is empathy-based (from feeling understood, relating to others' experiences, sharing your own etc.).
They are likely real, we can get some form of excitement by finally talking about why we are how we are. Personally I often laugh with others but never alone, I genuinely enjoy interacting with them and studying all their strange quirks, people are predictable yet never fail to surprise me, so there's fun in it. This isn't to say I don't get my joy from thrill seeking, playing social games and the like but it does make it easier when the boredom can be quelled for a short time with conversation
actually it sort of takes effect upon my own self diag here. im very strong in my opinion but it points the fact ive come up with myself that we need to analyze it all and through pyciatriacs it comes from comparisons mostly. very accurate. like for love for instance myself i compare for what i would in worst case do for that person or what i could do to draw the conclusion of the feelings.
I am a Christian, but also a psychopath. The only difference between me and my fellow Christian brothers & sisters is that, unlike them, I HAVE no fear of God....
Judging her actions is a wrong way to go about this. She’s not a bad person for doing this, she’s a different person. It would be detestable if she understood why it was wrong exactly, she does not, she just did. Basically just remember some dumb stuff you did as a child before you learned what empathy is. It is not relatable sure, but it is understandable.
I appreciate her candor, and self awareness, and I appreciate this series of videos. What I find so distracting is what is she constantly looking of to the side to? Looking to the right on a subconscious level is accessing the creative part of your brain no?
She may not have cared what other people thought about her but psychopaths also don’t care about others. They don’t care about their well-being. They don’t care about their feelings. They just don’t care about others not just what others think of them psychopaths are very good at lying, manipulating, and making it sound a certain way.
"I'm a psychopath and do skiing which is dangerous" 🤓🤓🤓☕ laughs in War. Would be interesting to see how "psychopathic" she'd be in house to house combat
It's so funny how she is frenetically blinking in order not to forget blinking. Psychopaths do tend to blink less. This exaggerated blinking is part of her mask. In this situation, neurotypicals might understand it as a sign that she is feeling nervous. But it's kinda weird that she's feeling nervous when she also seems so confident. A neurotypical who doesn't know she's a psychopath would probably think that she's an emotional, but also laid-back person who doesn't express her feelings much. Her mask is well crafted. I would like to see a video with her mask off. But I understand that this would not be a good thing for her public image, so it's out of question lol
@@coronacruiseship It's not a criticism. I like analyzing psychopaths and people with abnormal psychology. I had met a few in the past, some of which were my friends. I knew beforehand that they are psychopaths before our friendship started. It's good to understand the natural behaviors that we neurotypicals perform without being aware of
my mom psychopath, and despite ditterent face, all dynamics very similar. Mom tend to blink a bit faster exactly as in this video in case she trying explain complex things, like long chain of events. In normal she blink much less.
I'm only in part 3, but doesn't she need to take some kind of pleasure in causing other people pain to be a psychopath? She's said nothing like that so far...
Could say the same about empathy and emotion. Why would you feel bad about another person's misery if it doesn't affect you in any way. If anything, the suffering of others is quite enjoyable.
@@jelle7yes it really is I’m a diagnosed psychopath and I typically don’t care for others well being or feelings because the half of their personal feelings such as anxiety or depression or empathy ,I just can’t relate.
What’s interesting to me is that her emotional pallet is basically what people perceive as perfection and similar to how many people imagine heaven. No fear, sadness, guilt, fear of judgement etc. it’s almost like psychopathy, which we almost universally recognize as an inhibitor of progress in life is also the goal we’ve set for ourselves. I wonder, if it were possible for a person to experience her reality for a short period of time, if it would be as euphoric as someone might imagine the absence of negative feelings to be, or if it would be a terrifying memory. The human mind is a strange thing.
She cant connect to others normally thats why she doesnt care about others
Yes, its called lack of empathy. If i do something bad to someone else and then feel bad cause of it i might not do it again. And others might not do it in the first place cause they can already anticipate that it will make them feel bad and not be worth the emotional stress. That + laws etc. helps civilization to work on a certain level. If noone would really care and just make decisions without ever involving empathy.. i think during covid 19, if we had a house of 10 psychopath world rulers, they would have just let most of the old people die, etc. cleaned house a bit with the people that are not needed.
Psychopaths can feel basic emotions like love, joy, sadness, fear, anger but only to a shallow degree.
I see it as like an extreme denial
This is why so many people idolise psychopaths and have such irrational ideas about them, even when said psychopaths would stab them in the back at first opportunity. They envy their complete immunity to any limiting societal psychological factors in their lives. It sounds "alpha" and "assertive" to not care about what others think, and this appeals to our monkey brain.
However, living as a psychopath is not heavenly. If you look into it, psychopaths are very prone to depression and boredom because their lives are so devoid of meaning and value. They cannot connect to other people, they cannot find joy in interacting with society, they don't care about other people's happiness, hell, even ideals like humanity's happiness are irrelevant to them (most fictional psychopaths have a strong rational moral compass - real psychopaths don't). They get most of their entertainment from chasing adrenaline and sadism, whether physical or psychological (such as ruining innocent people's lives).
So no, it wouldn't feel heavenly. It looks heavenly to people who think psychopathy is just doing whatever you want, but any normal person would find this existence empty. It would feel like living in a world completely devoid of people.
You can still feel that superficial charm that psychopaths have. But you can also tell she is being honest.
May be being honest in this minute, but she’s leaving out a lot. She says it’s painful to be a teenager with feelings so it was easier for her because she doesn’t care about what other people think of her. They don’t only not care about what people think of they just don’t care about others at allor anything psychopaths are never honest
Agreed.
Right so like 90% of your interactions at the workplace.
We all do this
there isn't anything like "psychopath charm" it's media invention to make the title of the illness more mysterious.
The "psychopath charm" if you feel any is probably just natural confidence, and it's in no way more "charming" than any of the naturally confident and empathetic peoples charm is.
@@mayastrong4646 they can be honest if they internally see that as a goal/succes but its not motivated by caring and wanting to preserve intimacy with others, just a way to either not be disturbed or feel superiour
Wow. It’s incredible how she mentions her body feels nervousness but it doesn’t come through to her emotions.
I see how we trust psychopaths: they radiate fearlessness because they truly cannot feel fear.
At the surface maybe, I also observe they exhibit a different kind of fear - not getting what they want or being targeted.
@@auraaura2417 oh interesting!! Thanks!
@@auraaura2417 Yeah that's not fear. Maybe concern, as in "I have to take care of this issue." But not something as debilitating as fear.
Psychopaths tend of be very paranoid. So I think it is more about lack of judgement as Hare suggested
Psychopaths are afraid of only one thing: the exposure of how truly dark their nature really is compared to those of us with the capacity to feel empathy and care for others around us. That's why psychopaths operate through charm and manipulation rather than honesty. Expose a psychopath for what they really are on the inside and watch as they run to another place where the people don't know their true nature. Sadly this is from experience and I have seen how quickly they can run and manipulate others when they are caught.
Omg that Jack Nicholson Joker Smile...
I was thinking Sam Kinison.
omg now I cant unsee it... 1:34 IDENTICAL to nicholson's Joker...
Literally all I see
How she described having a personality disorder is so spot on. Mine isn't psychopathy, but wow did that definition hit home
Psychopaths rationalize emotions and that's what makes us go thru life without people even noticing it. That does not mean that we're immoral or evil or willing to hurt people. But yes, there are those with complete absence of empathy, they don't necessarily need to be psychopaths.
Indeed
@@SLqB11 You are rationalizing morality. If you do not have empathy or if you've never chosen to help others and instead, put yourself first, you are indeed, evil. With all due respect, my suggestion is to speak with a vetted, Christian Pastor. My suggestion is to ask Jesus into your life. Mark chapter 12 verse 30 through 31. Romans chapter 10 verse 9 through 11. Also, Mark chapter 9 verse 23
@@hmicky-mickey A psychopath doesn't need to delude themselves with religion.
@@SLqB11perfectly said
Not caring what people think is very freeing. That is one thing we can learn from psychopaths. But I draw the line at giving up your sense of kindness, compassion and empathy for others. We must hold on to that. A way you can learn from them is let’s say someone criticizes you for something like eating too much or not cleaning your house..something that doesn’t hurt anyone…smile and don’t care.
That has nothing to do with how psychopaths approach life. You are still using your sense of empathy, but reinforcing it with rationality to determine whether certain things are truly morally unacceptable or merely the result of intimidation tactics by narcissistic or insecure individuals.
Psychopaths don't evaluate what they do on any moral basis. If it benefits them, it's good, if it doesn't, it's bad. Torturing someone just because it might make their day less boring is perfectly fine. The reason why they smile and don't care is because they think of everyone else as pawns and objects.
@@nikobitan7294 Exactly. There's no real good lessons of behavior to follow with psychopaths if you have proper empathy.
I would rather feel than not to feel. It is the essens in life and keeps you surviving and being aware of danger.
Naw, you either have them or you don’t. Human emotions aren’t really things you can just turn on and off. Also overeating and being dirty are degenerate behaviors, so if people are criticizing you for it, it’s probably gotten to a point where it needs to be evaluated
@@nikobitan7294As someone who meets a lot of the criteria (admittedly undiagnosed)-there can be a “moral code.” But it’s entirely based on what I believe in, not what anyone else believes in. It is hard to wrap my mind around the idea that people who make it easy to manipulate them don’t deserve it, though.
I applaud her honesty regarding her as a psychopath I know most narcissists can’t even be honest to others at all including there partners I wouldn’t trust her still I appreciate her honesty and it’s better you tell people who you really are that way you won’t have high hopes to be possible into someone life because sometimes people want friends and enjoy someone company with a psychopath you won’t get any friendship with them at least a real friendship with them your going to be disappointed and let down because they won’t be there when you need them by your side especially in a worst case situation like a passing of a loved one.
thats because narcs get supply from others and have to cause havoc and submission in others to feel in control and powerfull themselves. A psychopath doesnt care about your feelings, they dont excert themselves to hurt you, only when its convenient for them and there will be no darkness just the rage of you standing in the way of what they want, its totally impersonal. She doesnt need to lie bc she doesnt need others peoples trust bc she doesnt need a relationship to get supply. Being honest is just easier and met with less resistance or a challenge they set themselves. Narcs lie bc they need something from us
Love how the question is what is it like “living with psychopathy” as opposed to “being a psychopath”
Everyone saying that not feeling negative feelings would be great and that not caring what others think would be great. It’s actually really isolating and affects relationships to friends and family because they won’t feel you care about them when you are failing to grieve with them and when you are turning a blind eye to their worries.
Many people are in a current crisis, or haven’t developed adequate tools (are young or immature) so it seems like turning off all emotion is the solution to life. I love my feelings, even the difficult ones. They guide me and inform me of things that are important.
@@izdotcarter very eloquently put. I agree.
that sound like a you problem
@@izdotcarterThere's nothing important, shut your mouth
@@izdotcarter its not so much about feelings as it is about heart. They numbed their heart and sense of being through that. That is what gives our lives depth, freshness and meaning
It's really interesting to see that she clearly has a complete understanding of empathy and although she might not feel it, she might still display signs of showing or giving empathy towards something especially how she mentioned going through school for others must've been really hard. That in itself is her showing empathy.
There's been a study showing that psychopaths can, to a very limited degree, put themselves in someone's shoes, but in practice they just use that to predict and manipulate people better. They have no real understanding, or desire to understand what the person themself is feeling. That's not really empathy. Empathy implies relating to a person and having *some* connection to their feelings, achievements, values. I may not jump from joy when a complete stranger gets cured of cancer, but I understand that it's a good thing. And I can understand these emotions and values even if they don't directly lead to benefits for me. Not so for psychopaths. If you think you're seeing empathy it's either because they've learned to superficially say these things in an emphatic way, or they're intentionally lying to make you trust them.
In the example you mentioned, psychopaths are defined by narcissism so they think that normal people are inferior and pathetic for having lives and experiences of their own, and will rationalise using them as playthings if they are not directly useful to them (not out of any moral justification, mind you, but moreso when objectively explaining what makes them target them). I imagine "I don't know how you got through high school..." is a way of wording that mentality in a more politically correct package.
Yeah, it is interesting. She does have cognitive empathy, but not emotional empathy. Essentially she just reads people, without feeling what they’re feeling. No doubt therapy has helped her converse in a way that is more palatable for normal people as well. It’s advantageous to her to sound relatable, even if only superficially.
She's read about it and has gone through years of therapy, too.
That's not clear at all. Sure, she knows the language around it and definitions she's read or has been told, but she's telling you point blank that she doesn't actually know what those things are actually like, necessarily.
It's called cognitive empathy and yea, it's a lifesaver for us. We might stumble a few times but it's always possible to learn where you went wrong, especially since when you're like this from birth and you can passively study your classmates as they age
Someone who’d be interesting to talk to but definitely not someone I’d have in my life.
Somebody check her backyard!
As someone with autism, I wish I would care less about what other people think and dare to take more risks. It's kind of inspiring to hear that it doesn't have to be that way. Even if I would never want to renounce every form of empathy.
Say yes to your life! Don’t worry so much. If you need courage get exercise to encourage your spirit.
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@@IloveJesus777j77 I don’t care if he died for my sins & comes back or not. 😂
many people say that autists have a harder time understanding empathy too
I'm hyper sensitive with depression/social anxiety and I kinda envy her with not giving sh*t about nothing,what others think,no need for affection or having friends..just being happy all the time..
Same
From what I understand it like a double edge sword. You don’t feel sadness but you don’t feel happiness either.
Same, although I don't think I would trade it for "feeling" music. I tried antidepressants for a while and although it was a break from the downs, I did miss the ups of *feeling* music.
well thats all emotions and they do have some but what give depth to our being is our heart, not our emotions. When you are at peace there isnt only the absence of fear but the presence of love and wellbeing. They feel they dont exist
I was diagnosted as a psycopath and I can tell you I'm never happy
Her speaking skills are on next level
High innate intelligence + training as a lawyer will do that for you.
I hadn’t noticed that. Her vocabulary and speech seems pretty on par with the “average joe”… maybe you’re referring to something else, though?
It’s the lack of insecurity
In another she describes about how she tried to killed a possum and the funny part is that I've spoken with another psychopath before personally and let's just say she's probably one of the lower end of violent psychopaths which may seem surprising to many people
There is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. She is a sociopath.
@@seasons1974 I'm quite sure she is a factor one prosocial (Good relationship with her parents and so forth) psychopath. Sociopath is an older word for psychopath, but today it means factor two psychopath. And they can often be more "emotional" and show anger and even some anxiety in public. Sociopaths are not always manipulative or narcissistic, but they fulfill some of the other psychopatic traits instead.
@@seasons1974”sociopath” is not a medically accurate term and hasn’t been for decades.
I think this series is pretty incredible. I would applaud her vulnerability, but then again, she technically doesn't have that, because it would require her to feel a sense of susceptibility to judgment. Which also begs the question - is it ethical to put this on display? Because she can't feel the exploitation, but in a way, could it be like putting someone up with a low IQ and them not understanding the stakes of what they are saying? She might not be understanding the social implications of the things she is saying and how many people might see her as a societal nuisance or worse...
Well psychopaths can aknowledge they are being judged and they can experience intense anger or frustration. They can want people to like them
At least to have a social reputation. Thats important to them most times i guess
I don't see a problem with this. She doesn't feel emotions, but that doesn't mean she doesn't understand them. She knows, given how smart she is, the implications better than you and I, I'm pressuming.
I'm sure she knows how psychopaths are perceived by the general public, she's had to deal with it in her life, but doesn't care. She seems very capable of consenting, she shouldn't be treated like someone akin to a child who shouldn't be allowed to do interviews because it might reflect poorly on her, she has the right make choices too.
She's sick. Her mental illness is being exploited and she doesn't realize it.
Or she does. And just convinces herself she doesn't care.
Im envious of her, she doesnt feel fear. What a life that would be, so different to mines, so many things I could do.
Except those things you would be "free" to do, might put you in prison. It's fear that prevents you from hurting someone if they offend you. Now imagine that fear isn't there...
Im a psycopath but if you meet me youd never know i didnt even know i was blind to it you wholdent tell the diffrience we do get scard to we just think its fun i heard someone say its like if a normul person got super drunk like the mind lack sense but youre super energtic like you driving a car with super speed i never noticed that i tought i had ptsd but im kinda ready to run from danger all the time like danger is alwayes around youre very susspicuse but you also think life is great at the same time think of it like this youre in a forest its very dark and infront of you there is a gaint paython snake and he cant kil you he is not allowed he can kil everyone els but not you becuse the snake is you but when the snake looks around everyone looks like him so he trys and live a normul life
I've often joked that I want to come back as a psychopath. I'm tired of feeling stuff!
you can detach without becomming a phychopath. But thats by attuning within to your heart instead of forgetting you have one.
I think anyone who judges and disparages this woman, for who she is, needs to look at themselves.
Being vulnerable and baring your soul to the world takes courage and humilty. (Even of they can't feel it) Everyone wants to be accepted in the world.
I've just 'come out' myself. Being a covert narcassist. Alot of things she spoke about I could relate to. It's refreshing actually to know there are other damaged souls out there who are going through the difficult journey of changing themselves. All we want to feel is 'normal' and develop a sense of self... Its a horrible knowing, you feel depressed and empty all the time.
If you are reading this, please try and put yourself in this lady's shoes. Yes, she may have odd reactions such as smiling at inappropriate times, but why zoom in on that. Why not be grateful to her for opening up which would inevidetably help millions of people either protect and educate themselves.
If you were a psychopath would you be game to publically open up, knowing the stigma?
It makes me angry reading negative comments on people who are being real. Rather we praise and idolise celebrities who are more fucked up as everyone else. But they wear the mask because thats how they want to be seen'.
I can speak from experience that i was so fearful telling anymore let alone admitting i had a personality disorder. Because i thought i would loose all ny loved ones. It was quite the opposite. I received more love and compassion. Because for the first time in my life, i was being 'real' with myself and others.
That inspired me to really own the fake person i developed. Ive learnt that we cant change unless we accept, forgive ourselves and let go... So i can build a new person.
And confident i will through the Dhamra path and meditation.
Somehow society idolises people who seem to be happy and have their shit together. Holding onto a facade for the outside to see. I think of most celebrities... How miserable, self absorbed they are. The pressure to keep up the smiles... Fake fake fake. Yet we idolise them. The poor celebs probably dont even know they are suffering. Then they kill themselves because they see their emptiness and dont know how or where to get help.
So please try and have compassion for us.
Even those who havnt recognised it within themselves
If you have been burnt over by a psychopath or narcassist, im sorry to hear that. Ive burnt people also. Im not proud of it, and certainly feel shame. But the one thing that can cripple a narcassit is compassion.
So please people, show your support to this amazing woman. She is giving the world a great gift by sharing. And giving a voice to the other f*** up suffering souls out there like myself, to recognise these patterns within themselves too and seek therapy also.
Jessica - Brisbane/ Australia
It shows how not having emotional empathy or fear can make you do destructive things and not care. People can numb their fear and emotional empathy (in the short-term anyway) through multiple ways, whether it's by brainwashing, drugs, or even feeling intense emotions like anger, but psychopaths have that fear and emotional empathy switch permanently off, which makes them potentially far more dangerous than the average person.
Yeah, it's like when leprosy damages the nerves that let you detect pain, and then you injure yourself because you don't realise you're touching something hot until you smell burning... empathy is society's version of those nerves. Would society even work without empathy?
dangerous, but also stupid. empathy and fear helps our survival. hence psychos aren't as equipped for survival as they are presented, which is ironical.
Her fear switch is not permanently off, otherwise she would have already become dangerous. She fears repercussions just anybody else. Listening to her for two minutes, I know I would never trust her, but in my opinion, emotional people are far more potentially dangerous.
Psychopaths do not have the same relationship with fear as non-psychopaths. She said she has regretted things, but only because it didn't work out for her, and even though she knows she's a danger to herself, she doesn't care and would welcome death. That doesn't sound like someone who experiences fear.
@@danman6612 What it sounds like and what it is are two different things. Many people master their fear and just as many don't experience fear until it's too late. What you describe is a conditioned response. Statistically, a person who truly didn't experience fear would probably not survive into adulthood since it is an essential survival tool. If she truly welcomed death, she would already be so.
I have never cared about what other people thought about me as well. Fear has always been foreign to me,but I love animals.
I suffer from Dysthymia, and have had many depressive crises throughout my life. By the way, I'm fighting against one right now. I envy her for not suffering because of what other people think and how they treat you. That's a big part of depression.
um I've been dealing with depression caused by PTSD for my ENTIRE LIFE and have literally been hospitalized for it and no one has used the term "dysthymia" around me before..... THANK YOU. This seriously seems to hit the nail on the head of the specific type of persistent depression I experience. And I'm dealing with a really bad "flare up" currently. This comment just gave me so much solace because I can now delve deeper and research more. Thank you, I really can't say that enough.
@@TheRainbowGal I wish you the best. I've been better lately, with the help of Logo therapy in the writings of Dr. Viktor Frankl, especially 'Man's search for meaning'.
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The background music in this video is awfully distracting and irritating.
Thank you for pointing that out. I'm dissociating so much just so I can focus on what she's saying.
Sounds almost comically at odds with the content
100 percent - its compelling content and the music is so naff - thankyou for pointing it out
It's so fascinating listening to her explain her experience. I wonder what it's like to be in a monogamous relationship with a psychopath.
Whether such a relationship could be satisfying and how it would be governed. Perhaps through utility, perhaps through contract - perhaps through love?
BTDT You realize you have no "relationship", you are just an object, they bond to no-one. It "satisfying" until you realize it's all fake, they are just using you. Note this woman is waring a mask, this is NOTHING like what she is in reality. If you want to learn more, never learn it from a psychopath, it's a million lies. They tell you what you might want to hear.
Psychopaths don't feel love. They can feel some entertainment from interacting with others (on a more muted level, given that they lack access to deeper emotions that people use to connect with things on a more complex level) but it's the same feeling you might get from playing in a sandbox. It's completely devoid of any deeper meaning, and chances are you'll get bored quickly.
If one day their partner stopped being useful to them, i.e. they got bored of them, or the partner refused to do them favours, or the partner got injured, and at the same time the psychopath decided they're really curious to see what the inside of a human looks like, they'd do it without a second thought. The only thing that would stop them is the threat of jail, or the lack of future benefits they could squeeze out of the person.
Damn !
I was diagnosed with aspd and i can say with a good amounts of certainty that a psychopath atleast in my case cant really form an emotional bond like love but i can form a bond through enjoying being around you like a friend, However in the case of a relationship the treatment would be more inherently personal and maybe sexual ergo, i must display affection. like @nikobitan7249 is saying. I cant truly be affectionate but i can enjoy being around you enough that in my mind the affection i would show you can be used as a payment to further keep said relationship. The bond that may occur would likely be something like:
"this person makes me happy so i will keep them happy so they do not leave" and "if i they do not make me happy i will leave". yes it is a bond which is emotional but not on the same level as a normal person would. Its very self serving and the affection you would receive would not be real affection but more of a tactic to keep you around to continue to make me happy. making you happy and feeling loved is just a method of achieving my own happiness and if i did not need to do that. I would not
@@nikobitan7294 Psychopaths aren't all the same. Like with any other disorder, there's a range. Some actually desire to, and live a pretty normal life, with a partner, trying to be normal and good.
It sounds great actually! No fear, sadness etc. she feels good most of the time.
@LaughingStock55 well, duh.
Ok ok, yeah you're totally right. Total hell to be in these people's lives
After listening to a few psychopatha now. I am amazed how they seem to talk in a similar way. So fluent and easy and compelling, but feels like the same person talking.
Fascinating especially how fight or flight feels
My ex would look off to his right like that too. Before I realised what a liar he is, I always wondered why his body language looked like he was uncomfortable... this lady is exactly the same
that's a myth. it's true that right-handed people _might_ look to their right when fabricating a story, as a left-handed person, i do the opposite. some right-handed people can function the way i function, and some can literally look you in the eye while lying
This rule (which is hardly true), is not something you want to rely on with us. Do you really want to pretend that we feel any shame when we lie to you?, we can look at your eyes perfectly fine and make all the right expressions, that's simply all there is to it. If someone is a bad liar, they won't be grounded in truth and there will be fault in the story, look for those faults and confront the person with it, know how they will attempt to spin it around on you, so make sure you're ready to defend your point calmly.
To clarify... its not a rule that they look a certain direction every time, I worded that badly. I just noticed at times he seemed awkward like that. Absolutely right, they can look at you with direct eye contact and lie blatantly to your face.
Eventually I learned his routines and caught him out red handed or on email enough times that I couldn't trust a single word he said.
There would be the sympathy manipulations where he would tell me I was the only one who cared about him, while he was organizing sex with another random hookup. Friends fathers who died/'funerals attended ' so he could go on dates, work trips etc etc. Just gross. It was the best and absolute worst time of my life, and the charmer has since made a point of trashing my reputation as much as he could. Just gross.
Not a sign of lying. People Look to The right when they imagine how to relay information in The Form of a story. It's used when a broad generalization IS made. Details are omitted so that a general view IS given. The exceptions to a rule are Are added later.
How many people do you think she’s burned throughout her life...
Alot
All of them
Loads. Probably she lost track of it herself.
😂 After reading other comments, this made me lol cause it's true. She doesn't see the gravity of her actions, it's all one-sided.
Ii have to say thanks for sharing your perspective but I realize it means nothing. This is so fascinating
this explains why psychopaths do not understand the consequences of their crime.
It’s so fascinating to see a psychopath talk knowing it is one, but also understanding that they’re speaking truth and not lying. I have met a couple psychopaths before and they had the sort of same kind of thing(?) when they would tell absolute truths or be completely honest, you could just kind of tell.
I read some reviews by her former students. Her name was Jamie Lund, though she may have changed it to Townshend. I don't know what she does now, but few law firms will hire someone who admits to this on the web. They say that she had a creepy stair when she was a law school instructor.
Can u pls link the videos?@joanarc7963
"warning from god" lmao - god created them. You don't get to pick and choose who god created, just because you don't like them.
I love you.
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The way she talks is wild. Open and honest though I must give her that. And I love her fashion she dresses so nice snd her hair looks wonderful.
???😂😂
It is a worry she is a qualified lawyer.
most of them are.
No as the Firm probably hired her based (merely) on her Academic Achievements.
Why? She's probably the type who defends corporations, busts unions, draws up eviction notices even when they're illegitimate, fights veterans not get their benefits and their widows
"Oh, U take the high road, and I'll take the _psycho path...."_
as a psychopath I agree with this description
What type of a psychopath would delete the comment section
future winner of a darwin award
I find her sporadic lack of eye contact interesting. She makes eye contact briefly but the majority of time she focuses her gaze off to the right. I interpret that as her not wanting people to really make a connection with her.
0:45 ‘most of the time I would be feeling things like uhhh.. joy.. you know the happy ones right?’ This truly conceptualises how a psychopath doesn’t feel anything positive. Her happiness, joy, charisma is all a facade.
She has no way of describing the emotions, because she has never felt them. So the way she describes them, compared to the other descriptions of other things she does, Is lacklustre.
@joanarc7963Yes, it’s astounding to think that they don’t feel anything at all. Nothing. Emptiness. Just as you and I feel remorse for an innocent soul in distress, individuals such as her have no such capabilities of doing so. This of course raises the moral question of whether they should be allowed to raise children. Saying yes could potentially mean passing on these Machiavellian and narcissistic tendencies on said children. Saying no could be countered by the question of whether or not it is even their fault to begin with, that they have been inflicted with such a curse of the mind and soul.
she is just highly logical
SOMEONE HAS PERSUADED THIS WOMAN TO BELIEVE THAT SHE IS A SICK PERSON.
I WONDER WHY.
Spock is logical. He would not drown an animal like she has.
No she is predatory
Well, she's not wrong. Having emotions is miserable. With I was a psychopath.
I believe it would be like a fish in water not "feeling" or "knowing" it is in water. So neither euphoric nor traumatic. Consider you fear heights while another person fears mushroom. Or that you enjoy the smell of onions while another does not. If you were to then trade bodies, your new lack of fear of heights and disgust of onions would now just register as "normal" to you.
I would really like some help identifying a possible Psychopath! He manipulated me so completely that I honestly still can't tell what was real and what wasn't... And my strength is behavior analysis! I don't know if there's just people who carry traits of Psychopathy and are simply extremely manipulative? Or if being surrounded by God fearing people his whole life would force him to have a better moral compass! Or if it was all pretend and He's just an extrEmly good actor, liar, and manipulater.
Sorry to hear about your experience. They can be extremely manipulative and quite good at it depending on where they are on the spectrum. I had a bad experience. Took me 10 years to wrap my head around it. Its mind boggling how good they get with time with their games.
What bravery to admit you're a psychopath. That is quite unique and not many people with this condition could do this.
Bravery? Not on her part. One can only be brave if one has fear. Ergo, psychopaths can't be brave. If anything, this is an experiment for her out of curiosity
Its not bravery when there arent any negative consequences
As the ones above me has stated, we cannot be brave. Being brave inherently means that a person is afraid and is still capable of overcoming such a thing. The correct term would be fearless although that's not always the case, phobias are actually something that can affect us normally.
I think her narcissistic side love the attention.
Wrong. We have zero evidence that she never experiences fear. Don't confuse lack of empathy for lack of all feelings.
May the force be with you
The feeling of utter emotional morality dissonance. The lack of guilt prohibits her feels of the sense of wrong or “immoral” conduct of her actions . Much as when a child gets spanked for a bad action, the child would feel guilt or shame from the punishment, much like her she would question why the actions would be reprimanded and quickly dismiss it . Strange but fascinating
There are left-wing wokey’s far worse than her and some of them are even in power.
I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that made you think physical punishment is normal or acceptable.
@@torena5907 come on its normal
I'll tell you what it's like - it's great; you don't have emotions getting in the way of day-to-day activities. Your obviously disconnect from some people (e.g. people don't understand why your not upset about something that they are upset about), but I've found the emotions like empathy are there, you just have to "turn them on". Likewise with fear - your brain doesn't see an issue with a particular task/situation, but the body is signaling that something is a really dumb idea so you kind of have to turn on the emotions to see if there is fear and, if so, why.
Is that psychopathy or just healthy emotional regulation? Lol.
OMG I'm a psychopath! I relate to what she is saying. I try really hard to emulate how others feel and I feel my best when I just dont care its trying to care the way they think I should that causes me to get off kilter. I only do it anyway because I know its what I should do according to others.
Oh ya I love going fast too! I feel things when I go fast I dont feel anything most of the time. My motorcycle is broke down atm and I really want to ride it FAST!
Keep Occam’s razor in mind as the narrative shifts with these individuals. Pay attention to the sequence of ideas being presented, the intentions behind them, and the outcomes they aim to achieve from you. Observe the condescending tone and demeanor in their speech and actions, as well as the patronizing attitude and smirk. Always remember who you’re dealing with-apply Occam’s razor.
She’s more well adjusted than most people I know.
You mistake her being calm for being well adjusted. That's how they fool people around them.
@@Herr.P she doesn't try to fool anyone, she just is who she is. You're making conclusions about her based upon your own behavior.
She could also be completely deceptive. A couple hallmark traits of psychopathy is lying and adjusting their behavior to make those around them believe a certain agenda that will somehow benefit them.
Sure, she’s copping to not having empathy… doesn’t mean she’s being truthful about everything she’s saying. She flat out says she doesn’t care what others think of her, so how is anyone supposed to believe a word she says?
Not saying that she’s 100% being deceptive … just saying there’s a good possibility.
@@wutwaVo542 y’know, you’re right, maybe I dove in too quickly with judgement. I’m just a little gun shy having experience with someone with ASPD who tormented me most of my life (and constant lying was a big part of that) . It’s difficult to come out of that experience and not think that everyone else who shares the diagnosis isn’t always lying. My trust had been obliterated. And it’s going to take a lot of work to heal that.
My legitimate apologies.
Not sure how my comment makes me “passive-aggressive” or a “gossiper”… but I can admit when I’m wrong.
@@wutwaVo542 Hey, I really appreciate you sharing that and I can totally understand how my first comment came off as
insensitive. I can’t imagine what that’s like to have those traits and live with the widespread stigma that ASPD is attached to serial killers and criminals. So I understand your defensive and barbed response.
The thing is, I’m actually well aware that ASPD is on a spectrum, like anything else, and that it’s rare for sociopaths and psychopaths to be violent or criminal offenders. I have been following Athena Walker’s Eye of the Storm Substack for about a year… (if you’re not familiar, look her up!), so, tbh, I surprised myself with my initial comment. I thought I was trying to be unbiased by saying: she may or may not be deceptive.
But that comment was really a snap judgement based on my own personal experience from a family member who I strongly suspect has ASPD, that has left me angry and traumatized … and with very little trust. (Also, I guess i was under the impression that it’s uncommon for those with ASPD to have insight/awareness into their disability. And, if they do, to seek help. Please correct me if I’m wrong about that).
I do have to say, though, that my experiences are very real and I’m not alone.
As I said, I have a close family member who has emotionally (and a few times physically) abused me since I was a very young child. He’s stolen from myself and my whole family my whole life (he’s wiped out whole bank accounts); he’s a pathological liar and a master manipulator; and he 100% can never admit to any sort of wrongdoing, no matter how small. He can break into terrifying rages at the smallest insult to his ego or if accused of anything. I could go on and on. To my knowledge he’s never been diagnosed with ASPD and I know that I can’t diagnose him but ever since several years ago, my therapist suggested to me that he seems to have traits of ASPD , I’ve obsessively been researching the subject and I’m willing to bet a lot of $ that he’s a sociopath. And he really only unleashes his “terror” (for lack of a better word) on those closest to him (ie his family, his ex-wife, probably his current wife, his son…) otherwise he is very charming, very intelligent, very funny.
Just wanted to let you know where I’m coming from.
So, anyhow, again, I apologize to you and to the subject of the video.
I really appreciate getting to exchange our stories to better our understanding.
Going forward, I will be conscious to speak my opinions with more sensitivity and a much more open mind.
I wish you well.
I like this woman - maybe I should visit a specialist.
These videos kind of scared me to see... Truly honest question:
How far from normal do you perceive these people to be ?
On a scale of 1-100
1= these people articulate how I am and see the world exactly. This is the normal way i perceiving things
50= these traits are extremely subtle and it would be extremely difficult to differentiate them from the avg everyday person.
10= this is unimaginable to think this way, how does a person think like this?
She feels regret because whatever she had done depicted her in a negative light or it had repercussions that weren't conducive to her cause or selfish agenda but not for the pain it caused others.
You can't pu ish a psychopath. The one thing they HATE is exposing them. They love social status. They hate when you expose their weakness. They hate being told they are wrong. They almost never admit when they are wrong. They seem to love status.
What she describes is an ideal person. What society is actually striving for to achieve, and this scares the hell out of me!
She exhibits more narcissistic traits than psychopathic. Though the lack of affect is astonishing
Ok but I can totally understand what she is trying to say with how not being a psychopath can actually seem miserable at times.
Have you seen those shirts that say "Autism is my superpower?" I wonder how the phychopath version would go over.
Thanks for Sharing, All Creatures Have Their Place in Time. They Exited a Womb As Well.
She looks like Spencer Pratt
It's nice to know I'm not alone
If you were a psychopath you wouldn't care about that.
@johntate5050 calling myself a psychopath is defining who I am by antisocial personality disorder. Being defined by a disfunctionis simply something i refuse to do. It is nice however Knowing there are others who expirence things the way I do.
I very much doubt you're a psychopath.@@SteveOLive88
@kceline123 I never had any real childhood trauma. I simply observed that I was different from other people, and now I know why. I count it as a blessing not to feel the same social pressures that everyone experiences.
WHERE THE COMMENTS AT
I think they were disabled and now opened
why are we all here hours apart 😂🤣this video was made 7months ago
Yeah so peaceful it's like being in the super market on Monday at 9am
Being neurodivergent and hypersensitive (empathy, smell and sound), I'm kind of envy of her but at the same time, it must be equally hard to still care for your friends but be unable to connect with them at an emotional level. As a defence mechanism, I shot myself down emotionally and I'm still working on it today with my therapist so I get it a tiny bit.
Omg I adore her and her honesty 😂.
Are all of her smiles and giggles fabricated? And if she wear to remove the "mask" wouldh she just be sitting with a stone cold face, explaining things with no contrast?
She said she could experience positive emotions, so some of the smiles and laughter are probably genuine
@@wishesandfishes They generally feel positive emotions from adrenaline, extreme excitement, sadistic joy etc. It's unlikely to be merely from interacting with a person, since everything they feel is so muted, and most of happiness we get from interaction is empathy-based (from feeling understood, relating to others' experiences, sharing your own etc.).
They are likely real, we can get some form of excitement by finally talking about why we are how we are. Personally I often laugh with others but never alone, I genuinely enjoy interacting with them and studying all their strange quirks, people are predictable yet never fail to surprise me, so there's fun in it. This isn't to say I don't get my joy from thrill seeking, playing social games and the like but it does make it easier when the boredom can be quelled for a short time with conversation
Actually sounds kind of nice to just not care sometimes
actually it sort of takes effect upon my own self diag here. im very strong in my opinion but it points the fact ive come up with myself that we need to analyze it all and through pyciatriacs it comes from comparisons mostly. very accurate. like for love for instance myself i compare for what i would in worst case do for that person or what i could do to draw the conclusion of the feelings.
I am a Christian, but also a psychopath. The only difference between me and my fellow Christian brothers & sisters is that, unlike them, I HAVE no fear of God....
Christianity requires empathy for fellow humans and genuine remorse, both of which psychopaths are incapable of.
@@jflsdknf Then I must be the devil...in disguise. Help me Lord. Convert my unholy brain circuits into your Holy Light!
A little bit of psychopathy in high school could have made a difference for me 😂
So damn cool how she feels adrenaline but doesn’t “feel” it. Perhaps ASPD is just a biochemical misfire in the brain 😮
Just looking at her I get a feeling of repulsion. That constant smirk smeared across her face is a huge repellent.
Same! I wouldn't be surprised if we saw her on the news. Hope she never becomes a mom
Regret. She feels regret. She must feel other painful emotions, but suppress them subconsciously.
Regret and remorse are different. Remorse is about the person you harmed. Regret is about how you were inconvenienced/hassled after u harmed them.
Very interesting!
this is the best Psycho we could find? bang-up job lads...
She would make a great sales rep for Psychos R Us -" it's a superpower, no fear, its freeing, I feel bad for those in school who don' have it".
damn she should have a podcast
Judging her actions is a wrong way to go about this. She’s not a bad person for doing this, she’s a different person. It would be detestable if she understood why it was wrong exactly, she does not, she just did. Basically just remember some dumb stuff you did as a child before you learned what empathy is. It is not relatable sure, but it is understandable.
I appreciate her candor, and self awareness, and I appreciate this series of videos. What I find so distracting is what is she constantly looking of to the side to? Looking to the right on a subconscious level is accessing the creative part of your brain no?
She may not have cared what other people thought about her but psychopaths also don’t care about others. They don’t care about their well-being. They don’t care about their feelings. They just don’t care about others not just what others think of them psychopaths are very good at lying, manipulating, and making it sound a certain way.
Life would suck living like this
Yeah, that’s pretty much how it is.
I am better with alone with my feelings
I believe this is the same woman from Dr.Phil confessions of a sociopath. I think she’s also a lawyer
Never thought I'd envy a psychopath.
When you hear a psychopath say they don't care then believe them because they really don't
No psychopath would ever do something like this. Shes definitely got ASPD, but a psychopath? Definitely not.
"I'm a psychopath and do skiing which is dangerous" 🤓🤓🤓☕ laughs in War. Would be interesting to see how "psychopathic" she'd be in house to house combat
these people always compare themselves to the weakest and think they did a great job being mediocre, pretty boring.
It's so funny how she is frenetically blinking in order not to forget blinking. Psychopaths do tend to blink less. This exaggerated blinking is part of her mask. In this situation, neurotypicals might understand it as a sign that she is feeling nervous. But it's kinda weird that she's feeling nervous when she also seems so confident. A neurotypical who doesn't know she's a psychopath would probably think that she's an emotional, but also laid-back person who doesn't express her feelings much. Her mask is well crafted. I would like to see a video with her mask off. But I understand that this would not be a good thing for her public image, so it's out of question lol
Youre stretching soooo hard its crazy, criticising someone for blinking😂
@@coronacruiseship It's not a criticism. I like analyzing psychopaths and people with abnormal psychology. I had met a few in the past, some of which were my friends. I knew beforehand that they are psychopaths before our friendship started. It's good to understand the natural behaviors that we neurotypicals perform without being aware of
@@coronacruiseship yes exactly. All this made up body language analysis is post-hoc justification for their biases
my mom psychopath, and despite ditterent face, all dynamics very similar. Mom tend to blink a bit faster exactly as in this video in case she trying explain complex things, like long chain of events. In normal she blink much less.
You cooked
How do I contract psychopathy? Sounds pretty good actually.
I've noticed in some of her interviews, she stares off in the direction of the books. And her eyes seem unrelenting cold.
thats crazy...her body gets nervous but not her body
I'm only in part 3, but doesn't she need to take some kind of pleasure in causing other people pain to be a psychopath? She's said nothing like that so far...
Very embodiment of thanatos.
Delusion at the highest level.
Are you saying she's deluded into thinking she's a psychopath?
Could say the same about empathy and emotion. Why would you feel bad about another person's misery if it doesn't affect you in any way. If anything, the suffering of others is quite enjoyable.
@@jelle7yes it really is I’m a diagnosed psychopath and I typically don’t care for others well being or feelings because the half of their personal feelings such as anxiety or depression or empathy ,I just can’t relate.