This 11 Year Old Is a Dangerous Psychopath | New Amsterdam | MD TV
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- An eleven year old girl is thought to be a psychopath when she almost chokes her brother to death simply because she can.
From New Amsterdam Season 2 Episode 5 'The Karman Line' - When Sharpe has a case that hits close to home, she and Max team up to make things right for the patient; Iggy and Bloom are forced to make a tough call on a unique situation.
New Amsterdam (2018) After becoming the medical director of one of the United States's oldest public hospitals, Dr Max Goodwin sets out to reform the institution's neglected and outdated facilities to treat the patients.
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That doctor gave her the worst advice ever!!!! He gave her a tool to use to get everything she wants. That ending just proved it
Here is something to keep in mind though- many CEOs and successful people are psychopaths exactly like this. The difference? They get socialized to not physically harm people because they won't getthe rewards they want that way. They still manipulate people as a tool to get money, success, and fame. They just learn to play the part well enough to blend in and operate in society. That's what she will have to learn. Unfortunately, people like this are around us and you just don't realize it.
Without endangering someone's life; who you think run these countries? A lot of them in every political office.
Agreed. For some empathy Or some form of it, is taught through negative consequences...
@@Dragonraiser11 You can't punish a child who is willing to kill you .. that's the problem with psychopaths .. there is no control. My dad is one .. his family couldn't control him so he lived on his own in an en suit above his home when he was 12 .. O_O .. imagine he .. the 2nd youngest child .. got a full room while his elder brothers were still living within the house .. his room even got it's own stair case.. children that are like that will leash out if they are not given what they want .. my dad grew to be a horrible person .. found my mom who is naive and autistic .. with clinical depression .. he isolated her from her family .. brainwashed her and moved her with him to different places .. all my life we never settled in one place until I was 15 yrs old .. he was always poor [when in fact had a different bank account where he kept all his savings .. to enjoy once he is done with this toy] .. my mom was efficient .. an obedient toy .. she managed the children .. him .. was doing everything for him .. and listened .. yet he had his anger outbursts .. and his scary moments. he used to lock her in the room sometimes .. as a child of a psychopath .. there is no solution .. their brain is ... sick .. you can't teach them anything .. my dad .. in fact is very smart .. he knows how to say everything right .. to manipulate you when he believed 0 of his words .. on papers and in front of others .. he is the perfect dad .. husband ..
in reality .. all that is a show .. you truly can't help them ... the number of times he told us he used to cut cats' tails growing up .. and his mom will just tell him off as if that is equal to making a loud noise .. it is annoying and disturbing.
@@ABirdOnTheMoon hopefully he found the help he needed.
Honestly, it's really scary to have a child and not knowing how their personality will turn out to be.
Unless you're not part of the kids life, not really. It very rarely happens.
@@midnull6009 sociopathy is rare, true, but it has nothing to do with parenting skills.
Sociopaths are born, not made.
No such thing. You make your child’s personality. It’s called conditioning
@@dmf1301 sociopathy has nothing to do with personality
@@exchi no get your facts right
Wow! Emma Hong who played the child psychopath here is AMAZING! This is the most convincing acting by a child actor I have ever seen. She is scary and adorable at the same time. Wish I could see the whole episode here.
It’s on Netflix
@@dejaleighwhat’s the name of the show
@@kookiemuncher257New Amsterdam
@@kookiemuncher257new Amsterdam s2e5
Yeah, how do we get the rest of it?
All that therapist did was teach that girl how to be an expert abuser. She does what she wants to someone, apologizes, then goes on to do the whole routine again. Sounds like there would be a lot of victims in her future.
*I worked in Mental Health..I was literally screaming at my screen watching*
*this...The therapist? ugh...His philosophy?* *I agree with you 100%*
I agree u can’t fix a psychopath. They should teach the parents to better handle their sick child
Sounds like my dad
The bigger issue though is that since She's the Woman society will automatically believe Her over any Male victim She has.
This is based on a true story of a girl who was adopted by a family and she tried to hurt her brother who was still in a crib. It turned out she was abused by her biological father and was admitted in a psych ward where she got about a year (I think) therapy using animals and stuff. She eventually developed empathy and compassion and lived a healthy life afterward.
Its called RAGE, little girl I believe her bane was katherine?
@@didi7366 It's called Child Of Rage, Beth Thomas was her name
@@larrygonzalez4607 Yes, she's in her 30s, now and I believe she is herself a therapist of children with attachment disorder(s). No word on her brother Jonathan, yet.
@@thatgirl8390 I hope your research is correct coz I'm quite wound up in my own lab to do so. The statement I gave is based on numerous videos that I came across and nothing more.
@@thatgirl8390 Oh no no I'm not offended or hurt. I'm actually glad that you've done your research coz I'm indeed busy in my work. Everything can be whitewashed over the internet and I know that well. So if someone knows the truth its better to point it out, I do the same when there are false scientific facts being supported by those who are not in that field.
My (former) stepbrother was a psychopath. Actually terrifying. We all walked around the house with tazers until they could get him into an inpatient program. Eventually, insurance stopped paying for inpatient, so they sent him to military school to keep him away. After he physically beat my mother as a teen for finding his secret second cellphone, it was a condition of her marriage to my stepfather that she never had to be around the kid. He was extremely manipulative, and when it didn't work or people didn't believe his lies, he got violently angry.
What did he have a second cellphone for?
Sounds like Israel. 😂
so stepdad knew he was like that. he's lucky he got married after dragging someone's family into that.
@lymint9587 I thought the same thing omg!
It takes guts to say the obvious truth.
Wow she just displayed exactly how abusers manipulate relationships. They hurt their partners then apologize to get the "make-up high" (or make-up sex, emotional coddling, etc) then they rinse and repeat the abusive behavior, only to apologize and swear to change to get the "rewards" again, and again.
They know what they're doing.
Yes and many normal people do similar things, without knowing what they are doing and then people consider it OK, because it is not premeditated.
@ritabylsma4244 I find it so weird that we accept apologies without changed behavior at all in society. I've stopped responding to apologies by saying "it's OK" and I started saying "Thank you for apologizing" and some people get so offended by that response.
That tells me everything I need to know about them. It tells me that they're just apologizing to get you to let it go and to escape real accountability.
A real apology involves giving the person that you wronged space to feel however they feel, even if they don't forgive you right away or they don't "let it go" magically the second you say sorry. A real apology isn't predicated on the result, it's just about acknowledging your mistake and vowing to do better yourself.
@@MiraJune742 Well said, thank you. Also, my sister is also called Mira. I never saw another Mira before, always Myra.
Sounds like a ex I had. Then people wonder why I'm not forgiving.
Most abusers are not psychopaths, not every psychopath is abusive in the interpersonal sense.
I'm disappointed that a Psychiatrist is letting his emotions cloud his judgement like this. You can't help everyone & this child does need to be hospitalized. She's unwell & when she gets angry she's a danger to others. Her brother is lying in a hospital bed cuz of a phone & in the end she manipulated them all to get her way. She needs targeted & specialized treatment so she can learn appropriate social/moral ideals & prep her for the real world
We are all Psychopaths here , dont act like your not
I think that because of this clip you may have misunderstood what he's advocating for. He's not saying she doesn't need to be hospitalized, he just doesn't want her to be sent to a corrections facility. By the way the show made it sound, it seemed like the corrections facility would not have been a rehabilitation center but more of a holding center. In this episode, Iggy is advocating for her to be hospitalized long-term under his care where he would try to help treat and rehabilitate her. Is he the most qualified person as he's not a specialist in specifically antisocial personality disorder? Maybe not. But this episode doesn't really make it clear how many of those types of specialists there are in this show's universe. They do however seem to indicate that he's the preferred scenario to her just being locked up.
@@AlexsTheCat No everyone does not lack empathy. Psychopathy is the lack of any empathy. Most humans are born with empathy. Not all are good at showing it, true enough.
@@m_d1905 yeah well idc idk what i am or you all
@@m_d1905 sociopaths lack empathy not psychopaths
When she said “…because I can.” I got CHILLS. Oh my god.
Me too. I was expecting her to say because I want to. That she can should have told that doctor what she is capable of.
its ironic because when I watched the confrontation with her brother, I actually believed she meant what she said. the acting was on top.
I don't get why parents (of minors) decide to take the blame for abuse just because their kids are young, instead of getting actual help for the kid like therapy or medication or both. Like, you're just gonna abandon your family and go to prison?
They're afraid of losing one or both children. They may also be in denial of how severe the situation is.
You're not a parent, if you were you'd have a little more sympathy. When kids are that young, the instinct is to protect them. So, even though she tried to kill her brother, they don't want her to go to jail, hence why they confessesd. Also, no parent alive wants to hear their child won't get better, or their child is beyond help. What kind of parent are you if you give up hope on your 11 year old? They're aware she's not right, but she'd probably have to kill a family member for her parents to completely let go of their hope.
@@tiffanywatson8316 1. By keeping the abusive kid around the victim kid, you're forcing your kid into a dangerous situation by not separating the two and GETTING PROFESSIONAL HELP AND MEDICATION. 2. The kid wasn't going to jail, she was going to an in-patient facility that specialized in youth with abnormal brain patterns leading to psychotic or sociopathic behavior. 3. By falsely admitting to one child's action, you're automatically LETTING the abuse continue instead of getting help for the child. It's not jail. It's therapy, for Christs sake.
It’s not always easy for parents to see that. They just see their “innocent” children.
because of shame and guilt. because they feel their own defective genes were part of what created the monster. and because they feel they were bad parents.
The doctor doesn't even realize that he is her latest victim yet.
lolz
@@SunBunz it's in the script..
I'm sure he does. The way he looks at her, you can tell he is disturbed by her.
Yes he does, he learned in that moment as it happens. It's the family that has no clue. They saw it as "progress!'
A narcissistic sociopath. Oh wow, that is terrifying on so many levels: The guy that feed into the kid’s desires and is proud of the "progress" that was made, the parents that enables by turning a blind eye, and the child that added a new tool to their manipulation tactics.
Sociopath and pyschopath are completely 2 different conditions
@@SkyeMae88 i am a diagnosed psychopath and there are differences that i've noticed from support groups that i've attended. sociopaths lose those emotional connections because of traumatic incidents that makes them lose hope in the world and just human connection in general. psychopaths are born with an inability to connect their emotions properly and at times have a hard time with empathy, and therefore display symptoms at a young age. sociopaths on the other hand display symptoms after the traumatic incident and had a good emotional and social connection prior to the traumatic stimulus.
@SkyeMae88 again, you didn't take my information that I'm presenting to you. psychopathy has a stronger genetic association. Scientists think that parts of the brain involved in emotions don't fully develop. Although sociopathy can also be inherited, abuse and trauma in childhood are more common causes. You might need to get checked out for narcissistic personality disorder because I can notice some signs.
"Manipulation tactics" is the only way she will ever operate. That is the point. If you can focus those tactics towards positive behaviour, based on a reward system, then the behaviour becomes habitual and eventually automatic, so there is less danger of violent behaviour.
All sociopaths are narcissists.
This was extremely creepy. I agree that she's impressively manipulative. She was so quick to figure it out too. But that's exactly how they get thru in life. Figuring things out. Learning by watching others and testing boundaries. Its frightening but it's real. We live among psychopaths, some we see and others we don't.
They don't test boundaries so much as slam into them repeatedly out of some moment of poor impulse control and then cleverly weasel their way out... but without properly learning from their mistakes. Which means eventually their "cleverness" fails.
They are less the logical manipulative masterminds people think they are from movies and TV and more of a spur of the moment liar and daredevil without capacity for shame and thus punishment recognition and adjustment.
But you have to understand that, a psychopath, does what they want, because they think, what they’re doing is right. In their mindset, they are doing right.
Based on that, you could be one trying to find a worthy opponent!
@@maxi1ification we can all Google!
@@Jonathanskits thank you google clone,- you don't win!
The way she spun around and mouthed the words “I win” gave me chills.
Da Nile is a river In Egypt on this one...what a sad sick situation
Yes!!
Thank you.. I was wondering what she was mouthing.
Bea
Apparently I’m bad at lip reading because I thought she said, “How was it”.
That child actress, the way she knew to silently mouth "I win" and her unwaving eyes. Woah! Gave me chills! I knew the doctor lost the moment he sat Juliet down. She is more manipulative than he could handle. Worse of all, he's doing what her parents are doing, teaching her how to get away with things she's done.
You people really floor me. Only seeing the surface of things. So if somebody was dying of stomach cancer you would most likely say "but you LOOK fine." She manipulated him, but just with subtle looks he cleverly out manipulated her. And at first he let her win a few times, playing dumb until he very cleverly acted like he just caught on to her and said he wasn't playing. He had to let her see her "wins" so that when she started to oblige him she'd be able to see the difference of winning in a more reasonable way. The man was a genius. In 5 minutes he had her out the door apologizing to her brother. Fake though it may have been to her, she wasn't able to do it for a while due to her pride and ego.
She was directed to do that... think it through
Who wrote this? That poor doctor, he really is the most gullible and ineffective character I've ever seen 😂 nobody would let a known psychopath run you over like that, especially not a kid. The first apology would have anyone stand up and leave to show that you can't be manipulated.
I promise you, most psychiatrists would put that child into a mental hospital for homicidal ideation.
Ikr? He totally let himself be played ...
I am not familiar with this show, but I’m assuming his character is either not very good at his job or is learning as he goes. lol And he let his emotions take over when she offended him.
Bingo!
You hunny seem like hav had real experience and to that well done on being with the patient. Even I'm still in my uniform after my day. And all my brain power. ;) It's okay to not like something ever and especially if someone is abusive to you coherently. I get you I'm also a massive victim. God-
I had a girl like this in one of my after school classes. It was terrifying. The whole family lived in fear of her. They couldn’t keep pets because she’d kill them. Her door had to have multiple outside locks and she couldn’t have stuff in her room because she’d make everything into a weapon. We’d have to keep one teacher on her at ALL times during care hours and she wasn’t allowed in the regular classrooms because she was too unpredictable.
She’d hurt herself and others for no good reason.
Her younger siblings lived in FEAR of her. Honestly she should have been institutionalized but there’s no support for that here. Her mother used to cry and tell us that she knew her daughter was going to grow up and hurt people for fun and there wasn’t anything they could do to stop it.
Yeeeesh, what in the world. That's insane.
Definitely one thing they could do to stop it……as a mother your kids are your responsibility. You bring them in, and if necessary take them away. I adore my son but if he ever hurt people like this, I’d have to send him away.
That poor family. And girl too.
@@strawberrycherrybaby This is the most logical way of thinking , especially when seeing so many young people killing !
@@strawberrycherrybaby exactly. Act like a monster, I’ll treat you like one.
I know a kid that was like this. She was didn't feel remorse unless it got her something. One time she tried to apologize to me and I said I don't accept it her. Her mood automatically changed to violent. When she can't manipulate someone, it made her aggressive.
I used to be like this, had a severe brain injury and it changed my life. I suddenly started to feel a wider range of emotions and put myself in other people’s shoes. I was never able to do that before, at first I hated it. I cried and then got angry at myself for crying. I think something goes wrong in our brains at birth that makes us act that way, it’s nature not nurture. I hope more research is done to cure people.
@@marshmallow7640 First, my deepest sympathy to you. Second, it would be easier to explain if that was her case. Unfortunately she showed classic signs of a psychopath. She hurt animals with her bare hands. She is sick, and I think she needs a serious therapist
@@justinekrider5803 I used to hurt animals as well before the brain injury. I felt nothing then, in fact I enjoyed it. After the head injury, I feel really really bad about it. The brain needs to be studied more, I hope that little girl receives a miracle the way I did.
@@marshmallow7640 it is interesting how the injury makes a difference…my niece was on her way to be a lawyer… she had a significant head injury… she recovered enough to be a different mind set as she became a social worker..
Justine, that's how you can tell if the apology is sincere or not. If the person is sincere they understand that it often takes time to accept an apology. And that the person being apologized to is under no obligation to accept the apology.
I've had that experience where someone goes to anger if you don’t immediately and fully accept their apology. It's creepy. At the time I was too young to understand, and I thought I had done something wrong. Thank goodness for healing and getting older .
My sister is a psychopath and was diagnosed at age 8. She is an absolute monster and the scary part is she has 5 children.
I am sorry to hear that. Can you give one example of the worst manipulation she has done? I would like to understand them better.
@@Random_Wierdo. I dont think they should be describing it unless they're already doing so. It's tough already to go through it.
@@pip.pip.pooray why not it would help other people like me who may possibly be going through the same situation although I’m not very sure that’s why I would like to understand them better
Poor children.
Are you sure? Psychopathy isn’t usually diagnosed until someone is 18 years old. However she could have been exhibiting symptoms early as 2 years old.
Honestly, a kid who is extremely empathetic but uses that empathy to manipulate and hurt others in the most personal ways, seems a lot scarier than someone who lacks empathy.
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She has cognitive empathy which means she can recognize emotions in others but she doesn't have affective??? Empathy which means she herself can feel someone else's emotions but she can still read others emotions
Psychopaths are able to read and name the emotions another person is experiencing.
They cannot FEEL another's emotions( no empathy)...but they can NAME and detect another's emotions....one way of manipulating people.
Cognitive empathy versus affective empathy.
@@wandmayeslupik6302basically real empathy vs. fake.
@@ronig3952it's no such thing as fake empathy, just different aspects
I couldn't even imagine how hard it would be to have a child like this. To be afraid that your own child wants to hurt you would just break my heart. I've seen shows of families that go through this and it's a horrible way to live. To go to bed scared is just unimaginable. So sad.
My sister is like this, never choked anyone because her manipulation did a better job.
The thing is, is something that always remain undiagnosed, I figured out that my sister condition had a name when I was so much older.
Psychopaths don’t automatically become killers, they just don’t feel the normal feelings or have the normal filters. She’s an extreme example of what happens when the person don’t have limits as psychopaths can be successful business men and women without hurting others.
Wrong. They have no compunction about hurting others, they just might not do it physically.
@@AhNee sociopaths are able to develop cognitive empathy, idk about psychopaths though.
@@Isafoodie It's a no for psychopaths
@@sharersale6480 oh okay thanks!
OP is correct btw.
This dialogue delves deep into the complexities of human behavior and the importance of empathy. It's a powerful reminder of the significance of understanding and compassion, especially in challenging situations. Kudos to the creators for tackling such thought-provoking themes.
That entire part before the kudos sounded like something produced by chatgpt, lol.
As someone extremely empathic and sensitive, this scares me to the highest level
Well it’s a TV show that stigmatizes and dramatizes this condition. Most people displaying psychopathic tendencies end up living a very normal life. They may not feel empathy like us (which is something we SHOULD feel grateful for, instead of using it as a way to demonize those with conditions).
@@PhysicallyAwake exactly, well said. The dramatic psychologist in the comments are annoying and talking horseshit
Well, it is up to Delohine how she feels about it. Don't gaslight peoples antennas. 🙂
I'm the same way, it's worse if you're a guy and sensitive:/
As someone who also self-diagnosed manipulative and good at lying, i am afraid i might be one 😢
I work with kids and there is this one child that just gives me a gut feeling he is going to be known in society... he has this blank stare and this smile... perfectly acknowledging everything you say but then doing exactly what you said not to while laughing & having a blank stare... creepy
I worked with an extremely aggressive kid who was also manipulative and a habitual liar. When he saw something he wanted he always wanted to “trade” the other kids-which was actually him threatening to hurt them if he didn’t get his way. He also had deep seated self hatred. I told my colleagues that he was going to be in prison for an extremely violent crime when he gets older. They didn’t believe me, but I have a strong feeling.
Trust your guts. You both have enough experience to know. My mother was an educator all her life and she said that although it’s politically incorrect to say, experienced educators like yourselves, can tell a child’s basic personality by the age of 4. She also had worked with a few dangerously psychopathic children.
When you work with children you just know when one's off. They just aren't normal. Sadly a lot of parents don't listen to us. As a camp counselor if only 19 yrs old I told the director of one of Camp Fire Girls about a kid, but she nor the parents listened. It's been 30 years and I always refer back to that case. If the kid has already progressed to unliving animals, we all knows what that means. He was surrounded by the mountains of north Georgia it was to easy for him to get away things.
I lucked out, I worked in a facility with about 6 middle school aged kids like this- pre-diagnosis for Sociopathy. They collectively manipulated the staff as a group to avoid doing school work there and when they were told to do schoolwork they would flip desks and broke the doors in the building to a pulp. This facility also does not allow restraint of any sort so they and I just took the beatings. Absolutely horrible program they let any kid in for their money despite how unhealthy the group dynamic is.
I met one while working as a teacher. He is a very creepy guy.
Wow, it's scary to know there are people like this 11-year-old in the world.
Then let me scare you just a little bit more.
Psychopaths are overrepresented among the prison population (as you might expect), however they are thought to also be overrepresented in top corporate and political positions too.
I had a student who was like she when she was 7. It was definitely terrifying.
Not all psychopaths intentionally hurt people, they are all over.
My sociopathic niece had been able to do this trick since she was 6 y.o.
@@VeritasAbsoluta I believe that. I marvel at the thought processes of politicians. I also find politicians scary.🙄
They need to stop rewarding this psychopathic child. That’s the problem
He just taught her how to be more evil.
This actress is playing this role to good🫣😱
Agreed
Teacher her how to be great at business
Narcissists and Psychopaths tend to use therapy or interventions as merely a lesson of where to cover up.
Actions always win in drama
I had two psychopaths in my class as a teacher . Obvious signs, obvious behavior. They were in SPED classes but they ran circles around the specialists. They respected me because I told them all the time I needed to check what they told me. They would tell me they hated me and I would just smile. They didn't like me because every time they lied and faked their emotions I called them out on it. They knew I knew they didn't care. One kid completely destroyed a classroom and another kid beat up the smaller kid: and the specialists would give us all these empathy building games and stuff. Hate to say it didn't work. Those kids ended up having to be in specialist institutions and schools.
YEP I worked in one of those special institutions for their schooling. They manipulated the staff collectively and each other since it was a small group of sociopaths. Horrible dynamic that is looked over and not changed for the sake of money and greed by the organization
This reminds me of a child at my first placement. The child centre was using positive reinforcement with the children. This kid would push another girl and make her cry. The educators would than ask he to hug her. After he did that, the educators would say good job. After a while, the kid would deliberately push her than hug her immediately afterwards.
I think this is based off the case of Beth Thomas who's interview is available on youtube. She was brought to a facility that ran off a reward and responsibility system. She actually ended doing very well after some time and even went on to become a nurse for children. It took some time though of course. Also, the term psychopath is outdated so it would have been nice to see the show use the right diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder so we can continue destigmatizing those with this disorder
As someone who has been on the receiving end of a psychopath's attention, hard pass on destigmatizing that disorder. They don't care, and neither should we.
@@jamiemetzger1403 I'm sorry that happened to you. It sounds like it's been traumatic. When I talk about destigmatization though I simply mean through a preventative lens. If destigmatizations leads to more education and awareness, then we can see more individuals with these disorders brought to treatment (whether willingly or referred) to then hopefully see some prevention for victims. The solution has to start somewhere. But this comment is not to devalue your experience, just shed light to an overall systemic issue. Hope you have a restful evening
I think Beth Thomas' case was different because she suffered from extreme childhood trauma and neglect. I read that psychopaths tend to have different brain structures that prevent them from feeling guilt, shame or empathy. While therapy should be a must for such individuals so I don't think reward system would be a good approach to keep them from hurting others.
@@jalapenocheese6839 yeah that's why I mentioned based and not exact. Beth Thomas and her brother came from abusive backgrounds, and many children who develop anti-social personality disorder often also endure adverse childhood experiences that then alter their schemas and life perceptions l, thus developing a personality disorder. Every case is different of course and should be treated differently to obtain the best results, I agree
beth Tomas wasn't a psychopath. she had been severely abused and this caused brain damage. she couldn't form emotional attachments because the attachments that were supposed to be safe for her were pretty close to deadly. she didn't learn to feel or fake feelings she learned safety which allowed feeling which is very different from what they showed in this clip. A psychopath lack empathy but only one-third of people diagnosed with AsPD antisocial personality disorder are considered psychopaths
The child actor who plays Juliet is absolutely brilliant…very talented young lady.
All he did was teach her what emotions and empathy look like/sound like. He is helping her gain victims. Her brother will be back
This is not how it works you have to teach her what empathy is and how others show it and how to mimic it not to manipulate but simply fill in the blank with the right emotional response when needed
The catch-22 is she'd have to care enough to want to learn, to "do better".
What she needs to learn is to fear punishment, so she can learn how to operate on a socially acceptable level in order to avoid said punishment.
Just look at 'Dexter', for example.
Agreed, but there has to be self-interest. If she doesn't gain anything from fitting in with society, she won't.
It'll start out as letting her manipulate others, followed up with teaching her to act empathetic in order to plan ahead and keep her options open.
She'll still have her personal motivations, but she'll act considerate by default
@@JakkFrost1 supposedly fear doesn't work with people like her either
@@JakkFrost1 psychopaths are terrible in judging the consequences. And they don't care much what will happen to them later, too, I think. I mean, some, sure, I guess. But some just wirk on the immediate consequences, no long term or potential ones considered.
@@kathrinbauer5358 yeah, just realized myself that wasn't quite the right word, but atm I'm tired and can't think of a more appropriate word for avoiding undesirable outcomes or circumstances.
That kid is truly scary. I hope that the actress goes on in t.v., films. She's got talent, potential.
I disagree that Frome taught Juliet how to manipulate. Juliet is a clever psychopath from the start. She was quick to find a loophole in the doctor's game and exploited it. Too quick. A quickness that I attribute to a genius. Perhaps it's parental instinct to protect Juliet and take the blame for her, but I daresay that she took advantage of their love offscreen.
She exhibits no fear and perhaps even joy when she knows she angered Frome when she ignores his instructions to play the game properly and even spit on his face, a stranger.
She's the most dangerous kinds of psychopath.
EDIT: I take it back. She DID enjoy it. She gloats over her success in fooling everyone for the phone with a smile.
I don't think she should be around others. She will always be too selfish to care for others
@@nicholerubes2959 I don't think she should too. The bug house is where she should be at all times.
Who's more scarier as a kid? Juliet from New Amsterdam or Henry Mesner from Law & Order: SVU?
Psychopaths are devious, not clever. They’re actually very stupid.
@@chrishenniker5944 You know this from personal experience? Regardless, the world is large. There's bound to be a clever psychopath somewhere. Vile the day we meet with one.
The other doctor (?) was right. It was terrifying! And the doctor who is so desperate to prove himself is just creating a bigger monster out of her.
That feeling when you think you're going to watch a documentary and you wait.
That is an example of why children and adults become serial killers when they don’t get there way ; when they are told no; when others disappoint them. They have no skill set to cope with it so they lash out at whatever is in their way.
Giving in to every whim makes a much worse monster than making a kid mad once in a while. This child has antisocial behavior and psychopathy. She is unable to feel remorse, regret, empathy or shame. Much different than most children. You teach your children through their empathy how to deal with disappointment and anger.
keep in mind she's a phycopath . there is no cure for that . she has to be placed somewhere she can't hurt other unsuspecting people .
Normal people learn that life doesn't always give them whatever they want and adjust. If they experience severe abuse and neglect, some predispositions in their psychological make up might result in sociopathy. Many killers are sociopaths.
The terrifying child exhibited psychopathic characteristics...an innate deficit in emotion, complete lack of empathy which can be imaged on brain scans. No external conditions, injuries or complications...they re born that way.
Also, there is a genetic component. Most psychopaths will report that they have or had family members with similar traits. We've all known one, or more frightening, are related to one.
not really? the girl in the vid was a medically diagnosed psychopath. it's not that she "didn't have the skill set", she is medically incapable of empathy. she never lashed out at anyone: she choked her brother because, to her, it was the easiest way to get his phone, then she pretended to be emotional at the end because she learned that emotional manipulation is a better way to get what she wants
it's not the same as children and adults who are spoiled or entitled or whatever point you're making in your comment, because this girl will never be able to feel sorry, or ashamed or guilty. she is medically incapable of it
This girl is scary AF... Respect for this little actress!
First off whoever played Juliette is a fucking amazing actor. Second, child psychopaths r extremely scary and so impressively manipulative. I had a friend in elementary school who physically and emotionally abused me for years and I’m certain that she was callous and unemotional. I remember we were in the principals office together being talked to about what was going on between us. I remember she kept telling the principal how much she loved me and how she desperately wanted me to accept her apology and we could become friends again. She bought everything she said and scolded me for my behavior and I’ll never forget when the principal turned around to answer a phone call, she looked at me and smiled. It was really scary
"Friend"?
Wow, that's terrifying
As someone who worked with kids for 20 years - i met a psychopath whose manipulation of his middle class, oblivious parents was terrifying.
"I win."
Yes, you do. You win a new home: jail.
That girl is an incredible actress.
Having empathy for a kid is one thing. Cool and all. Having empathy for an adult is something completely different from having empathy for an adult who hurts someone else. At that point empathy doesn't matter the damage is done people are hurt
That’s why you should feel empathy for them as a child.
It’s obvious that psychopaths need attention and care as a child, this helps them develop into healthy life styles where they aren’t hurting people. Especially therapy that doesn’t involve a reward system (that’s just bad, it leads to manipulation)
If you encourage or tolerate this behavior (such as the parents in this clip) or demonize them, you’re going to end up with the same result and people WILL GET hurt.
@@PhysicallyAwake idk why y’all care about kids like this why waste time doing this when we can care for kids who deserve it. i’d cut this girl so fast if she was around me. they don’t change
People with these mental conditions need to be placed in a secure place for them and others. It’s not about punishing anyone not responsible for their behavior, but to protect innocent people. Yes we need to have empathy for all, but it is our duty to prevent damages as much as possible without being inhuman.
A doctor actually suggested that in an interview. (Can't remember the show)
However, he said such a thing would not be created in our lifetime or your grandchild's lifetime.
It will take many many more years, and many more generations for what you have said.
That’s excessive it’s not like we are going to just harm anyone
@@Heenfio that's why I think there should be some opportunity for kids born this way to learn how to blend with society without harming anyone, a sort of rehabilitation program. statistically there are a lot of people with aspd in various work fields and especially high stress ones like law and the medical field because many seem to flourish in those environments, but we only see the violent ones on the news so many believe that violence is inherent. People who are a threat to innocents should be kept somewhere away from them, but we shouldn't admit people for crimes they haven't but might commit in the future, and it also shouldn't be exclusive to those with apsd because plenty of people who are capable of empathy have done horrific acts too. At this point I'm basically describing jail I think lol
@@Sandstimes you wrote a whole paragraph, but I'm wondering if you even noticed the person you replied to said, "we" as in describing his/herself to be like that of the psychopathic character in the video.
This episode could be a great movie by itself. The little girl would do a phenomenal job! She gave me chills
I was waiting for the doctor to realise that he is not teaching her to be more considerate. But rather hide her psychopathic behaviour to eventually able to harm more people.
You can't cure some people with therapy. You can't do it with ADHD, you can't do it with psychopaths. And trying to impose that on a psychopath who is harming people around them. Is eventually trading lives of multiple people around her to only hers.
To be honest, his idea of behavioural therapy sounded too dumb to begin with.
A toddler would figure out how to abuse this system in a hour.
A general rule when dealing with kids of any variety: always outline the exact terms of any agreement. Kids understand agreements, but they also understand that they may be able to get away with stuff if they can find loopholes. Clearly the doctor was not trained in dealing with psychopaths since he left the terms extremely exploitable.
Thats a good idea, teaching a psychopath whose natural inclination is to manipulation for self gain the quickest way to manipulate for self gain. A+ job writers
Wow, she had me fool when she spoke to her brother. I was like, “awe, she just wanted to connect. We had a break through.”
I work with two year olds and many of them are like this because they haven’t fully formed empathy yet. Sometimes I’ll ask a child why they hurt another and it isn’t uncommon to hear them say “because I wanted to”, it’s always disturbing even though I know it’s normal at this age.
6:20 She’s worked it out big time. She’s manipulating people to get what she wants. My worst nightmare.
I think I met a teen
Psychopath this summer. She was extremely stoic and cold, her smile was fake, and she stood in corners of rooms like a still block of ice watching people instead of sitting among them. At the end of my encounter with her, she asked me to help her with something. She’d baited me in by bringing up a topic that she’d previously figured out I was passionate about (I don’t even know how she got that information-very scary). She wrote me an enormously articulate, almost robotic-sounding follow-up text message asking me to deliver on the favor only hours after meeting her.
I never responded. Feels weird because I’m usually eager to help young people, but something tells me that helping her would be helping a dangerous psychopath move up in the world. Absolutely not 🙅🏾♀️
Just cx she stood or sat alone u termed her psychopath? What if she was just an autistic introvert kid? They have difficulty mixing socially. That’s very wrong on your part
@@user-xe1lx1pg9q Or they actually DID meet a psychopath and determined that they wouldn't help her. What would have happened if she was a psychopath? Would you help her? As you determined that she might be a "autistic introvert kid"? That's wrong on YOUR part.
@@user-xe1lx1pg9q You make a good point. but it wasn’t just the ‘sitting alone.’ It was more that she was standing over the room observing in a very calculated manner. Followed by several behaviors afterwards which definitely pointed towards psychopathy. I’m pretty sure what I was observing was not spectrum behavior.
Wow.. judgemental AF !! And also not genuinely nice ..you only help people you like.
You disappointed a quiet girl and did not help her "move up in the world" just for being introverted
So scary !!
@@salmamahmoud6037 no. I’m an introvert. What I saw was not quiet, introversion-it was calculated psychopathy. I will not be helping her.
yep, that spitting in the face would have put me in jail
A coerced apology made for iggy bucks or any other kind of bucks is not only pointless, it's counterproductive.
If you can't reach empathy, you can't win.
i’m glad i found this. my sister has schizophrenia, adhd, and odd and this is how she is. it is really hard. she’s really manipulative. she’s stated my parents are abusive, etc. it’s so scary
Heh. Problem is is this is based on real life issues. My sister was like that and still is. I can spot this stuff a mile away and have known about it since I was 7 years old how manipulative she was. She's just as ugly now on the outside as the inside. I'm sure things aren't as peachy for her as they were. Am I mad? No. I feel sorry for her because despite everything, she's my family. I won't ever go near her again though. When she started hurting MY family I cut that off.
My sis is the same . She is not as psychopathic and dry as this child but she is as harmful as she is . I too had to cut her off after she started going after my parents . And as you said , because of my prolonged exposure to her , i can smell people like her from a mile away. Take care . Please feel free to talk to me if you want to . People like us should stick together as much as we can .
Good for you, having conflict is actually a healthy human concept and to remind us that the Earth can in fact smite us in ONE night. Also, is the other comment not loading on your end or is the site turning cray-cray than usual?
My sister too. Cold as ice. Lies and manipulates. Ghosts everyone who is not important to her.Totally selfiish.
@@tessariles4488 Take care .
@@XSilver_WaterX Yeah, what comment?
As soon as the 'reward' system was introduced I was like "uh oh"
people need to learn that empathy and sympathy are not the same, you can have low (or no) empathy and still be a sympathetic kind person
he is not safe
Yas!
Little horror. It would break my heart but I would have her locked away if she were mine. Suppose she harmed someone else's child beside her siblings?
PEOPLE LIKE HER ARE DANGEROUS.... And if they don't get the help they need it turns out bad...
Even when you apologize and really mean it, you're not entitled to anything,not even forgiveness. Like trust, you need to earn it.
Hauntingly my 4 year old son is showing these signs. And it’s kinda scaring me , it hurts me. Because as a mom if I one day have to give up the only son I have it’s gonna leave such a big hood in my heart and will make me feel so guilty at the same time
Boundaries. Put them in place. Do not accept the unacceptable.
@@solidcatink boundaries mean nothing to these types of people. You think her parents didn’t. She is just that manipulative. Doesn’t matter what you do. She is smart enough who to do it around. How much to do it. And when to do it. You can teach your child all you want to. It’s up to your child to listen to your words and guidance or not.
The terrible part is that people "protect" their kids who have serious issues like this, instead of gettkng thrm treatment, and then it becomes a much worsr problem.
So true. And then they wonder why they turn out that way. Cause they never got them the help they needed. 🤷🏾♀️
Her acting is far beyond than 80% of real oscar award performances.
Wow. That child actress is a phenomenal actress.
This so so true in all levels. A lack of Empathy is key trait of psychopaths. They will never have it so you can’t ever change them. Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of empathy and remorse, shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.
I am lucky to have parents who taught me to be responsible enough to take the consequences of my mistake by myself not being saved by them. I was taught at a very young age to be respectful and responsible. I owe them great gratitude.
I’ve always been interested in the psychology of psychopaths since I learned the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths, but watching this really terrified me. I’d like to say I basically understand how a psychopath works even though I don’t have much personal experience or knowledge in detail about them, but I just wanted to share my thoughts.
Basically they have a disability, they lack the part of their brain that influences empathy/emotions, it’s a psychological disorder so there is no real way to ‘fix it’. However, they are very different from what you think most people with disabilities are like (ex. Autism, bipolar, multiple personality). Like most people with mental disabilities, they look completely normal and they can act completely normal, except they can be dangerously cunning and intelligent. Even though they don’t feel emotions like normal people do, they are very good at mimicking them. They’ll do what pleases them and will not feel any remorse for their actions no matter what they destroy or who gets hurt in the long run. They do as they see fit to get them to their end goal, no mater what they need to do to get there. They’ll carry on life like a normal person with high intelligence and charisma, charming and influential, dangerous and manipulative, anything to get what they want. Should things not turn out right for them, they’ll play nice until they can gain control again.
You wouldn’t even know someone is a psychopath if they don’t want you to know. It could even be someone you know, that fact scares me the most.
I dated a psychopath and have personal experience. Reading about it is definitely different from experiencing it. In the case of psychopathy, I believe experience trumps books/reading any day.
Now as an experience, it not something I can describe to someone else. Only those who have dealt with THEM (shivers) know the truth.
Caution; a little scary.
if you do wanna know what it feels like though, to experience. The scene "It's in there with you" from the movie "Jurassic world 1" is an example.
I wouldn't wish a psychopath on my worst enemy.
Your comment perfectly sums up my interest in psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder. Psychopaths are so unhinged compared to sociopaths that the differences are shocking.
I figured out the man i wanted to marry.....was a psychopath .......
@@CallMeNevermore~ Psychopaths are generally more organized i.e., CEO; whereas, sociopaths are disorganized i.e., persons in and out of prison.
Actually the traits show themselves early on. My son was diagnosed very young. He was 2 when trouble started He would act out and try to kill his brother. He told me at 7 he didn’t feel emotions. From an infant on he never cried and didn’t register pain normally .We got him help and he’s learned to adapt to function in society. He’s 20 now has a job a social life and functions well. Someone just needs to care enough to be there for these kids and program them to function in this world.
Yea, it's called a responsible parent. A toddler needs to be taught and stopped. He needs to know his boundaries because he gets in trouble when he acts up. It does not take a Social System to raise a child. Seems like every kid on earth now is given a diagnosis like getting a new pair of shoes. Kids are on meds by the time they can throw a temper fit, and parents are too scared to discipline because the state has told them they can't. If he truly was as bad as you say, he would not have been a responsible adult with the ability to function well. For heaven's sake, we will discipline a dog and train them, but we don't do it for our own children.
They can never be part of normal society. You have no idea what goes on when he is at work or with others behind closed doors. They manipulate and abuse people and get away with it because of such thinking as yours. Not your fault really. Most people think like that because they have empathy. But, people's empathy can turn against themselves and against humanity when we think they can be functional in society. The future is scary indeed. It will be too late when humanity realizes that these people either really should only be locked up or euthanized.
Keep an eye on him
Oh this little actress is going places. Well done, young lady.
"Because I can..." DAMN 😂
She is such a good actress.
Amazing!
as house would say. dont feel bad about all the people in the room getting creeped out by you its evolutions way of warning us of the predators.
also on a side not i used to be scared i was partial psychopathic because i never cry at funerals nope this wiped every damn worry out of my head in an instant.
I'm not a psychologist but even I can tell by her first response to the reward system idea (her insulting him then apologizing to get money immediately) that this wasn't gonna work cause she plans on gaming the system. He shouldn't have given her the money for the first apology cause even a child could tell it was fake. He's just rewarding her already bad behavior. The same behavior he's trying to change. I don't get how a pro didn't see that
Juliet would no longer exist after that attempted intervention.... But seriously...she needs help, and clearly does not think as a child, and does not have the emotional capacity to empathize or desire to acknowledge that what she does is wrong..and that is dangerous.
_"and does not have the emotional capacity to empathize"_
That is exactly it - psychopathy is the complete inability to empathize. It's like not having a sense of smell and taste for example. It's not the person's fault, but the resulting behaviour _needs_ to be controlled for the sake of the rest of society. A bear with rabies that's on a rampage through a populated area isn't "guilty", it's just being a bear with rabies, and acting accordingly - but it still needs to be stopped.
@@Wolf-ln1ml Um sir, ma'am, Other...that is what I said. It is not her active choice, it is that she cannot
@@Nyotakikora1 I guessed it was, but the way you phrased it was a little too vague... "doesn't have the emotional capacity to empathize" doesn't quite get across that there simply is _zero_ wiring for empathy in a psychopath's brain. It's a bit like saying that zero is "a fairly small number" 😜
@@Wolf-ln1ml lol...
@@Wolf-ln1ml What does no capacity mean? Zero wiring... 🤷🏼
That spit would’ve made me forget that she was a child
I learned of a cure for an adopted very young sexually abused girl who hurt her brother, the family dog and would gladly hurt her parents too. She also abused herself. The girl was removed to another home where she wasn't allowed to do anything without permission, and was given responsibilities as she grew. Eventually she learned to love and respect herself and others including the new adoptive mother.
Defective. Put her down. Trust me when I say that they wouldn't mind at all if they had to walk all over you to reach their goals. They do not care about your life and have zero remorse. Defective and Dangerous. We do far worse to simple animals that wouldn't hurt anything. "BUT SHES HUMAN".. well, what is it to be human? Empathy is a HUGE reason we are human, if you lack that and compassion, you are nothing but greed, hunger, malice and pain. Defective.
She was most definitely abused by someone. Most likely someone from the family or friends
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 Psychopathy doesn't need a prerequisite of abuse or anything. You are literally born with the inability to have empathy or compassion. They are only driven by reward, pleasure and success. Where people have barriers of empathy normally, they do not. Its why they see nothing wrong with walking over you to get what they want if you are in the way. If there is no consequence for assaulting or even murdering people to get to their goals, they would take you out as easy as it is for you to cut an apple in half. They think nothing of it. There is no emotional ties to such things.
Think of it like an A.I - smart, can interact, can learn behavior, learn consequences, but there is not empathy, no real "care" about you or your feelings, or your life. It is defective. Its not how we're suppose to be wired.
this is horrible. The kid apologizes and gets a reward. what's stopping her from seriously hurting someone and then apologizing. thats what he is teaching her.
I really miss this wonderful TV series!! New Amsterdam was so well written with very interesting character development. So many truly provoking story lines in every episode.
She's really, really good at this role.
They’re teaching her how to be a serial killer
That child needs an Oscar 😅
He forgot to mention....the apologies have to be sincere.
I saw this episode yesterday for the first time. I was amazed with acting. This young lady is absolutely stunning!
Where there movie at what it’s called
Wow. This little girl played her part VERY well
She's creepy. A monster in a body of a child. I got emotional on her acting, convincing....best child actress ever.👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Honestly this is beautiful thank you creatures for making this episode. This is not easy to live with and many people just send these people to wards.
The little girl’s acting is insanely good. Made you guys really think something was wrong with her.
The problem with reward system is that psychopaths have a tendency to favor cognition and logic (or their brain does) which causes a lack of trying to actually please anyone. Which also causes them to just repeat actions that give set results. It's a strange thing because they aren't machines, they still have desires that offer no logic, but they will take the most logical actions to reach it, just without empathy
Edit: I'm working towards a medical degree in psychology, and the majority of my career has been in adolescent and young adult cognitive and personality disorders
I dated a psychopath and well…I’m a Chicago girl and we had to thump. He left me alone. True story.
She is so so soooo scary. Oh my goodness these kind of people are so terrifying 😮
they are politicans you vote for...the government. they have no remorse for simple people, they only hungry for money and control over you and they exactly know how to manipulate normal people in to believeing they actually care about anything other than themselves 😂
So, if you apologize she wins, if she apologize, she wins it big?
How to beat her at her own game?
This child actor is going to win an Oscar someday!
This little girl (and these writers) deserve Emmy's.