@@ElleDuderino how do you figure she did? Judges scold attorneys all the time. They wasted a whole day of trail and she has the right to reprimand them.
@@SunflowerNik idk about a mistrial but I was wondering if she just gave him enough to file an appeal. The judge listed things his lawyers have done wrong so he can come back and say he didn't have adequate lawyers representing him, they didn't properly do their job or something along those lines.
@@gern5168 and this is probably why the state made sure the judge asked him a bunch of questions and let him know he is giving up rights. (I can’t remember the word for what the state asked the judge to do 🤣🤦🏻♀️). The defense objected to it but the judge did it anyways.
She reminds me of the judge in the Arbery shooting. He was patient until they tried to take advantage of it. This is how the system should work and we need more justices like them.
she is to emotional. it is dangeros let her be in autohrity position, especialy deciding others. maby she should do job with much less power, maybe interier decorate
@@SoyAntonioGaming FFS - your misogyny is showing, If a male judge reigns in the lawyers he is doing his job, if a female judge does it she is being emotional. What a d*ckhead you are. (and a cr*p speller)
I have been appalled at the defense attorneys in this case, especially the lady in pink. She has had HORRIFIC behavior this entire trial and the judge put up with it so much linger than any other judge would. She needs to be punished for her behavior during this case.
I agree… from day one, literally hours after this animal murdered so many people, that defense lawyer treated him like he was a little lost boy who stole a candy bar and got caught!!! I can’t stand her either and she’s been challenging Judge Scherer from day one!! I hope she get reprimanded further!!!
@Nadal Wilson The jury weren’t in the room during this. So it doesn’t make a difference. She was right and called out the lack of professionalism. Judges do this all the time when attorneys are attacking like idiots.
@@ChromaticallyIndie lol it's crazy how so many people comment on social media on subjects which they have no experience or actual real knowledge...it's like they watched a couple episodes of Law & Order and now they're ready to take the BAR
@@WalrusesAreTheOne she calmly stated her issue. She never insulted them. She said they were acting unprofessionally. If anything, they’re not respectful of everyone’s time.
@@123456BRye imagine thinking the attorney showing up late, storming out of the courtroom and evading basic questions for the judge is in the right here
I've watched enough trials and I have except worse. This was defective an about time moment. This defense team are a bunch of butthurt egotistical brats.
Seems like a catfight honestly. I heard the judge mention that the defense team has done some things that she didn't like previously, but as someone who hasn't really been paying much attention to this case outside of this and one other video ; it makes it look like the judge is far too emotional and rude to them just from this clip alone.
The defense team has been a train wreck and prioritize dopey menopausal gamesmanship over authentic client advocacy. Not that I care - he really should have been aborted - but even for a team of low-paid, less-than lawyers, they’re a colossal dumpster fire.
17 people murdered and the defence behaves in this way. Given the defendant clearly committed the atrocities it is one of the most appalling things I have seen in a court.
This is absolutely beyond ridiculous. He’s pled guilty already. Just sentence him and get it done. What a huge waste of tax payers money and a complete waste of everyone’s time!
Maybe you should move to the Mid-East? That's now how the Justice system works in our country. Every defendant is entitled to a fair and impartial trial, PERIOD!
@@kita476 No, this whole thing is about seeking the death penalty. The State of Florida decided to seek the death penalty. This phase of the trial was not necessary. Florida could have had him in prison for the rest of his life years ago when he confessed. Now, because _all_ death penalty cases get automatic appeals, he'll be in and out of court for years. Every few years you'll see his face again as the appellate lawyers file appeal after appeal after appeal, each winding through the court system to the Florida Supreme Court. This all about the prosecutor scoring political points for the next time he has to run for office.
This judge has been tolerating so much bs from the defense this whole trail. I think she deserves to stand up for herself for once. I don’t understand why people are saying she’s talking down to them. She’s just trying to get a point across that they have been wasting everybody’s time. I would definitely not want to be part of the jury cause just imagine how many times they have to leave their jobs, families, etc. to put up with this nonsense, it’s absolutely uncalled for.
The judge is impatient and unprofessional. The defense is allowed to pursue the case however it sees fit. The judge cannot tell them they have to call witnesses, the judge cannot tell them they are not allowed to rest their case when they want. This is a death penalty case. The lead defense attorney is a specialist capital defense attorney. If you think the defense attorney is unprofessional, you don't understand how a death penalty defense is normally conducted. The judge is throwing a fit. She's acting like a child simply because the defense changed its mind earlier. The defense is under _no_ obligation to kowtow to the judge. The judge ought to just accept the defense's decision and call on the prosecution to take up the next phase. The judge is mad that the schedule changed a bit in a _years_ _long_ penalty phase trial. A couple of days, and Judge Karen wants to throw coffee at the help.
@@AndyCutright the schedule changing a bit is wasting people's time when they could be working to assure they get to pay their bills in these times of inflation.
@@AndyCutright The defense has to follow the law & standard court procedures. They were present their case; they had a long list of witnesses they hadn't called yet; both the judge & prosecution were waiting for them to call their witness then the most incompetent lead attorney I've ever seen suddenly announces the defense rests. Even her own team looked shocked. The judge was right to speak the way she did. If there is a successful appeal in this case, it will be based on inadequacy of counsel because of all the F'ups by the defense.
@@AndyCutright I didn't understand why she helped the defense by throwing a tantrum for any reason about how they legally and respectfully run the case. You never know what kind of weird bias a judge is gonna bring to a case but it is always destructive to both sides.
This is the penalty phase so it's even worse they're just trying to keep an L off their record in a death penalty case its not about helping their client. Now if it was about feeling the judge was biased against them in an actual trial and they were trying to get an objective mistrial as a way of judge shopping, I wouldn't like it but I could at least respect it as it's in the interest of their client. But he already pled guilty.
Unfortunately, Judge Scherer no longer rocks. At least from the bench, that is. She was publicly reprimanded by the Florida Supreme Court for the way she handled this case. The supreme court ruled that she viloated several canons (rules) for how a judge is to behave, and further stated that she displayed obvious bias and partiality to the prosecution, even goin so far as to hug the prosecution team and the victims family members when the trial ended. I understand Judge Scherer's actions. She's a parent who empathized and felt great sympathy for the parents who lost children when the crazy a**hole Cruz entered Parkland and murdered 17 people, mostly children. Anyone who has children would sympathize with the parents whose children were brutally murdered that day. She lost all her credibility as a fair and impartial judge and at the end of June of 2023 she retired from the bench.
I watch trials on various channels & I have to say I have never seen such disrespectful council, primarily defense, before. They don’t stand to speak to the judge. They talk over her continuing their position when she tells them her rulings. I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
It will, just wait.. Then the House of Representatives will become the ‘House of Representin’… And doctors will have to use picture menus like Denny’s… And Costco employees will tell you they love you…
@@Teddymac86 The defense has the right to rest its case. They are under no obligation ethically or legally to continue calling witnesses because the judge says so. If they wanted a mistrial they'd ask for one as they did a couple of months ago. They have one job: keep Cruz off death row. Cruz is going to prison without any doubt. Their goal is to keep him from bei g executed. They have one strategy to keep him off death row: preserve the record for subsequent appeals. This is how death penalty defense cases are fought. They are unlikely to win this round so the have to prepare for the next round. There's nothing to be gained from a mistrial at this point. He's already in jail and headed for prison. Delaying the penalty phase doesnt help them one bit. It doesnt help Cruz. The defense isnt working to keep Cruz entertained. Thry arent trying to give Cruz a few more days in a courtroom. They just want to keep him off death row. Clearly they feeel the record is ready for the upcoming appeals. That's why they rested. There's no tactical benefit to be gained from a mistrial. But please enlighten us how a mistrial is something they want and also how exercising their right to rest their case is at all grounds for a mistrial. Or even how that would work? You think the judge is going to call a mistrial now? For what reason? And please explain the legal foundation for this mistrial they're seeking ...
This judge should get the judicial medal of honor for putting up with so much BS and posturing and disrespect of a court of law that I've ever seen. Her ability to see this through under such undue duress is astounding.
@@jakeplumber1373 Exactly. Both the defense AND the judge are terrible in this case. They've given the shooter exactly what he wants, an entertainment show of his own life. They're making a joke out of the life of a school shooter and he's loving it. The more entertainment he can see the better, it will feed his ego even more feeling like he's in some kind of movie where he's the villain. If we lived in a perfect world? This case would've been over YEARS AGO and this man would be serving his time without any of this BS and the only entertainment he gets is within his prison cell and the prison itself.
The judge should not have allowed this. Most people will push the envelope as far as they are allowed to if given a chance. I was in management for 31 years and my staff knew exactly that no BS will be tolerated.
@@jakeplumber1373 And why I'm for it. So when homicide { or multiple homicides } are so overwhelmingly inhumane and/or egregious, that we willingly put up with their BS in order that they get their just due. And the victims get true and equal justice. Wake up. Don't be woke.
@@nickslick75 I read she was showing bias towards the prosecution that ‘s what the defence claim when there client was 100% guilty of killing 17 people
I've been saying this for weeks, this defense team is a joke. They are dragging on the trial for some reason, I can't tell if it's personal gain but it's definitely gone beyond 'doing their job' at this point, it's frankly embarrassing.
I know! Defense attorneys are critically important overall, but at this point...why are they making fools of themselves while defending an indefensible animal?
@@shayemarina7930 No they aren't. A mistrial at this point doesn't serve the defense interests. You don't understand how a death penalty case defense is handled. The defense team is led by an experienced death penalty specialist attorney. She has zero interest in a mistrial at this point. If she wanted a mistrial she would have asked for one. But she didn't. She rested. The judge isn't going to declare a mistrial because there's zero legal basis for it at this point. The prosecution isn't going to ask for a mistrial because they're going to win. Please stop parroting legal phrases you don't understand. You have no idea what's going on.
Wow, these lawyers are insane. They are behaving like children. I am very frightened for the future if this is the new normal. If I were this judge I would start to hold these lawyers in contempt of court.
@@nenej12 they are bottom of the barrel? That is why one should never commit any crimes if one does not have enough money for competent legal representation.
they are trying way too hard for Public Defenders's your suppose to just let the jury lock your client up and get a paycheck, not actually defend known criminals.
"We're not playing chess!" - that part made me laugh, this lady is clearly sick of their BS! As if there should even be a long drawn out trial for this piece of trash in the first place. What could his defense possibly help with at this point? 100 years + life in prison? or 50+ years in prison + life? Either way the guy is never going to see another day outside prison walls. Give him a public defender and plead for his life, and even that's helping more than he deserves.
The judge is pulling he hair out because, despite the fact that the guy has the right to a fair trial... he doesn't deserve that right, and EVERYONE in that court room knows it. Take him out back.
@@Valscorn01 it doesn’t matter if he deserves it or not, it’s in the constitution. The US justice system needs to be a professional system and people need to be tried professionally.
@@ParaAkula I can understand that but A good judge won't or at least shouldn't punish a person based on their lawyer's, and she seems like a really good and honest Judge.
Thus far, I have seen no defense! He needs a defense team...he has none! Kruz is clearly mentally and emotionally deficient! Thus, why doesn't he have an attorney to argue that? I have not seen, nor heard any defense argue that! No, I do not feel that his actions are acceptable; however, his actions are/were not those of an individual who is of sound mind! He has difficulty expressing himself and his behaviour is not that of a mentally healthy and functioning human being. Yes, the are issues that should have been addressed long before this tragic event! The death penalty is NOT the answer for such a mentally deficient individual. Furthermore, all I have seen in this trial are friends and relatives of the deceased reading letters from survivors of those who were murdered. I have not seen, nor heard any true prosecution or defense on Kruz' behalf. Quite frankly, I have never seen, nor heard any judicial process quite like this!
They're trying to make her seem unhinged and argumentative and get her to lash out so they can get a mistrial and waste more of our tax money and get a whole new judge and jury. They want him free and not behind bars as long as possible. Disgusting
@@AshA-ww8hc wrong for multiple reasons- he has already been found guilty so this would not be a mistrial as a verdict was already given. The Jury was also not in the room for this so this would not be eligible for a mistrial and lastly in death penalty cases if the penalty is given they are automatically given an appeal. That argument would make sense if they were not in the sentencing portion of the trial.
This judge has been so professional and patient, particularly with the defense and the BS it's tried to pull, all throughout this trial. She deserves a raise.
“Were not playing chess” this is exactly what a trial is, hang the little monster but he’s still entitled to a defense. Sorry but the Judge is a total Karen here.
Judges are required to maintain order and decorum in the court room when proceedings are underway. Having respect for the jury & their time is important as they fulfill a civic duty. I think she handled herself very well and the defense atty is lucky she was not sanctioned or referred to the State for her conduct.
@@Cece-dad17 just because she resigns doesn’t mean she doesn’t get reprimanded; as long as she holds a law license that is all that matters. She will be brought in front of the Supreme Court for her state and chastised for her lack of professionalism. The major issue is she has now created an appealable issue which means this case isn’t over and there could possibly be a new trial because of the way she acted
100% I have seven cats, you just sort of, scoop them up and toss them where you need them. They pretty much either just fall asleep where they land or just give you an indignant look and saunter off. These attorneys are more like herding douchebags
@@river8760 lol yeah, if you take in a stray make sure to ask if it was on birth control, otherwise you get seven cats. They're sweet AF though. Literally just got out of the shower opened my drawer to grab a shirt and there was a cat curled up in there.
Very funny to watch a lawyer respond to the judge and tries to give her resume to the court! I've run across people like that and they are very narcisstic and ego-maniacs who feel their opinions matter more because they will always believe they are the smartest person in the room.
The judge is not a god. The judge doesn't get to dictate how the defense conducts its case. The judge is going off the rails because her schedule has been slightly changed. A day or two out of months and months of a very complicated death penalty case. The judge is the problem here, and has been since the beginning. She lacks the temperament for this sort of case. Death penalty cases are long and generally tedious because the defense must establish a record for appeal. This means the defense is going to object repeatedly about as many issues as possible. The judge should understand how appeals work, but it's not clear she knows what's happening. If the judge can't handle a drawn out and complex defense with a lot of interruptions and twists, the judge isn't suited to be sitting in that chair.
I used to hang out in courthouses all day in case someone needed a translator. Never have I seen something as unprofessional as those attorneys. Unbelievable. They're trying to train wreck the trial.
I feel sorry for this judge putting up with such unprofessional lawyers I’ve ever seen! They want a mistrial! Keep standing up for your proper procedures in YOUR COURTROOM! The people I feel the most sadness for are the parents and family !
How dare you reprimand me in front of my murderous client! If only your client put as much effort to delay his murder spree, things may have been much different.
I’m so proud of Judge Scherer!!! She put that defense attorney in her place!! LONG OVERDUE!! She was very patient through this whole trial, I’m so glad she got tough!! She’s not only beautiful, she’s a strong smart woman!!
"You are insulting me in front of my client," says the defense attorney for the highly disturbed and brutal man who pleaded guilty to over 30 counts of murder and attempted murder, at his sentencing trial for life in prison or death.
Yeah that creeps me out. She has such a high regard for him. Now just speculating no proof, but maybe she is a neo nazi and nik is a hero to them. Maybe she just has a crush on him. Either way she is a creeper
Maybe im missing some prior context or information, but I'm halfway through the video and the judge seems to be the main one that is pressed and cutting people off impatiently. I get people don't like the defendant or defense team and think the judge is pretty, but am i missing something other than that?
@@spongebob8445 yup . Judge is doing her job with a high standard of professionalism and class. The defense is outrageous. One of the things they were made about is not being able to break the law.
Yes, that was the most egregious lack of self-awareness I've EVER had the displeasure of witnessing. That woman is one of the most irritating people I've ever seen, but that comment makes her the most inappropriate as well. I hope to God she is shamed and blackballed for her antics and ends up working at Wendy's after this.
Only the defence!! But the judge is also an insecure woman. Why ask the prosecutors if they have anyone ready today? They didn't expect the sudden request of the defence
@@hus390 She asked the state if they would have anyone ready because no one thought the defense would pull this surprise closing crap. Cruz's attorneys are just trying to be disruptive.
“Unprofessional” is the most common word used when describing the defence lawyers with the two most notable being the two female lawyers seated in the middle of the defence table. If I were the judge I would have cautioned all the lawyers that grandstanding and unbecoming behaviour in such a high profile and significant case would result in contempt charges. And then I wouldn’t have hesitated to do it, especially to those two defence lawyers. Totally disgraceful behaviour.
I would have held them in contempt several times. The one in pink should also be brought up on review as an officer of the court. They may not have a license much longer.
You can't blame the prosecution for not having things ready today, since the defence suddenly rested their case!!! It's like your match is suppose to end after the defence's match, and they bail out on the 3rd quarter.
I blame the prosecution in the sense that the case is “he went into a school and murder students in cold blood”. I don’t exactly understand how this is taking so long when the defense has already pled guilty.
@@TNTITAN I'm not following very closely, but isn't this the sentencing phase? i.e. deciding between death and life in prison? So the defense is trying to blame his actions on all sorts of things in an attempt to get him life instead of death. Again I'm not following closely so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You clearly didn't watch the trial. AH's team were professional throughout. It was JD's team that were badgering, bullying, making faces, giggling like school children, etc.
Edit: my apologies for using the wrong ‘council’ instead of ‘counsel’ and thanks to those who corrected me in the replies. This judge is absolutely right. I’ve only been an attorney for around 4 years and I haven’t even followed this case super closely which blows my mind to realize how much unprofessionalism and how unprepared these attorneys have been. I understand this is a stressful very long trial with hundreds of people who have been negatively impacted by the incident but good god she is right. Every day further this goes on she is adapting and changing to fit each individual council’s mistakes, unpreparedness, and often times tardy schedules. To be honest with you I am amazed how well she has kept together throughout all the bs she has dealt with from both sides of counsel. I have seen counsel question and/or disrespect the judge several times throughout this trial be it directly through disagreeing with her rulings or showing up late because of them as she pointed out. Good for her for straightening out that courtroom because it is her court. I don’t think I know of any judges that would have allowed or taken everything she has all this time without reaching a breaking point sooner and taking ahold of their courtroom.
I'm not sure how the defense lawyers are assigned or if in fact they are assigned in this type of trial. Would it be that the state provides the lawyers? If so could that explain the lack of respect and professionalism?
@@jennygater7775 I’m so sorry this is going to be a very long reply. To be honest I’m not entirely sure. Everyone has a constitutional right to have an attorney appointed to represent them should they not be able to afford it so that is what I believe you’re referencing when you are asking if the attorney is appointed by the state and I’m also not entirely sure who is paying for Mr. Cruz’s council but I have never heard of council provided by the state having more than 1 attorney appointed for 1 case. I could be wrong because this is a very big case obviously so I guess maybe it is possible more than 1 attorney was appointed by the state to represent him because of the magnitude of the trial. This being said, I do remember reading about something back in may of 2019 that the judge had rejected the public defenders request to make Mr. Cruz hire private council so I will be making the assumption the attorneys are in fact appointed by the state. Regardless of a private hire or a public appointee, they are still defense so it is their job to do all that is in the best interest of the defendant. This includes challenging the prosecution (who are the attorneys seeking the charges on behalf of the state) and the judge her/himself to maintain the defendants fair treatment. This being said, that has not been the case. Challenging a judge’s decision and disrespecting the judge are 2 very different things. These defense attorneys have disrespected the judge several times when the judge has been VERY fair to both sides of council this far. But to answer your question, though these defense attorneys aren’t operating on behalf of the state that is the reason even public defenders will sometimes challenge a judge if they feel something is unfair. So basically what I’m trying to say is there is no extra significance for challenging a judge simply because council is acting on behalf of the state or via private council. So in conclusion, there is absolutely 0 reason for an attorney to disrespect a judge, regardless of who they represent. Judges are an unbiased third party that have the responsibility of ensuring a fair trial for both sides so this further explains disrespecting a judge does no good because the judge isn’t on one side or another they’re the middle ground. Sorry this was so long, it is hard to answer that question thoroughly in a short response. Good question!
Since you are a lawyer can I ask is this normal in a penalty phase case? It's been almost a month. They took the jury out to the school. I have never seen this before. Thank you.
@@debbysalmon2498 Well every case is very different in their own individual way but I would say no, this is nothing like what one would consider a 'normal trial'. I would say the length of the trial is more rare but certainly possible. But taking the jury to a crime scene is not common practice that I'm aware of. Put simply, no; nearly everything I have seen in this trial would not be considered normal.
She should give them a warning and say, next time I have to talk to you about this, you will be in contempt. It seems that lawyers are becoming closer and closer to being the criminals.
A huge part of legal proceedings is natural human reactions and psychology. It is so unprofessional as defense attorneys to behave this way which could subconsciously tarnish the judge’s view of the defense in general leading to the client receiving a harsher sentence because of how they presented themselves. (even though his outcome has never looked promising)
Maybe, deep down that’s what his lawyer is hoping for. She obviously can’t just come out and say she hopes little Nicky gets the chair, but maybe, just maybe, deep deep down in her cold little lawyer heart, she’s trying to sabotage him.
@@sA-ny2jl I see, I haven’t been watching all of it, but if your witnesses are helping the prosecution something is wrong. I majored in Criminology so my opinions about the DP and criminal defense are different but there is so much to be discussed about how complex the brain is especially when trauma takes place before and after birth. They could have kept their witnesses only to present scientific and expert testimony and left the personal accounts of his aggression alone to show that he has some biological factors that led to his behavior. With things like this I always believe: Understanding the root cause of a person’s behavior is NOT excusing them.
The McNeil defense lead (lady in the pink) has been nothing but disrespectful to the judge since day one. I watch a lot of court trials and I’ve never seen a defense attorney be so rude to judge before.
@@hus390 you're insecure. You've been crying all over the comments. Stfu already. We get it, you can't stand beautiful women in positions of power. Get over it little boy.
Defense probably didn’t want the State to question Zach and Richard on their tv show. It’s probably a tactic of the defense to leave the rest of the witnesses to the appeal if it happens.
You need an extremely good reason to introduce new evidence on appeal. Usually, it needs to be evidence that you couldn't reasonably have introduced at trial. If you just hold back evidence strategically then you are stuck with that decision.
@@lumpstersmouse5471 bingo! Remember he is playing like he’s not involved for the courtroom and cameras trust me he gives those lawyers grief probably a lot behind the scenes
@@nenej12 Wrong! This is strategy. They are saving witnesses in case DP is given. They need to have a whole new defense in case of appeal (new witnesses and testimony).
"Judge, you have insulted me in front of my client? WHAT?? You are worried about being insulted in front of a mass murderer?? Get a life lady! STFD and shut up!
They’re inconsiderate, unprofessional, and if they’re using this behavior to later on give him a chance at appeal by “incompetent counsel” or a mistrial they should be disbarred
@@fuddshake Maybe to their peers, but they get paid by defendants. If they could get Cruz off for what he did, they could get anyone off. So they’ll be hired by lots of defendants.
@@animaanimus8011 "Ineffective counsel" isn't getting anyone off, and neither is a mistrial. It's just restarting the whole process and putting on record that they're incompetent.
I hope that if people need defense lawyers they don't choose these. They sure to lose their cases. It is absolutely disgusting behavior from Mrs MacNeil and should have some kind of punishment for it. I have watched this trial right from the start and she was extremely rude on many occasions and that should not be acceptable.
They're trying so incredibly hard for a mistrial, that it's sickening.
And she just gave it to them…
@@ElleDuderino how do you figure she did? Judges scold attorneys all the time. They wasted a whole day of trail and she has the right to reprimand them.
blatantly
@@SunflowerNik idk about a mistrial but I was wondering if she just gave him enough to file an appeal. The judge listed things his lawyers have done wrong so he can come back and say he didn't have adequate lawyers representing him, they didn't properly do their job or something along those lines.
@@gern5168 and this is probably why the state made sure the judge asked him a bunch of questions and let him know he is giving up rights. (I can’t remember the word for what the state asked the judge to do 🤣🤦🏻♀️). The defense objected to it but the judge did it anyways.
The AUDACITY of that defence lawyer telling the judge she‘s insulted HER 😳
The lawyer couldn't handle the criticism 💀
She is. The audacity of the judge that thinks she can speak down to people.
@@yimwaili5425 did you just make fun of someone and then ask them to buy you a house?
@@Christine-dz6wh welp. We know which sides the Karens lay on.
@@Christine-dz6wh ....
She reminds me of the judge in the Arbery shooting. He was patient until they tried to take advantage of it. This is how the system should work and we need more justices like them.
Same as the Kyle rittenhouse judge by
she is to emotional. it is dangeros let her be in autohrity position, especialy deciding others. maby she should do job with much less power, maybe interier decorate
@@SoyAntonioGaming Did you drop out of kindergarten and had to learn english all by yourself?
@@SoyAntonioGaming yikes, literally every second word mispelled. lol
@@SoyAntonioGaming FFS - your misogyny is showing, If a male judge reigns in the lawyers he is doing his job, if a female judge does it she is being emotional. What a d*ckhead you are. (and a cr*p speller)
I have been appalled at the defense attorneys in this case, especially the lady in pink. She has had HORRIFIC behavior this entire trial and the judge put up with it so much linger than any other judge would. She needs to be punished for her behavior during this case.
I agree… from day one, literally hours after this animal murdered so many people, that defense lawyer treated him like he was a little lost boy who stole a candy bar and got caught!!! I can’t stand her either and she’s been challenging Judge Scherer from day one!! I hope she get reprimanded further!!!
The male, defense attorney interrupting the judge is even worse.
Agreed! The entire trial!!
Im not suprised shes defending a monster shes one as well
death penalty for the defense
I have absolutely loved this judge throughout the entire trial. She takes zero bs 👏🏻
That lawyer in pink got Bitched slapped by the BOSS... and I say that with all do respect...
Well said! Shes been fantastic
@Nadal Wilson The jury weren’t in the room during this. So it doesn’t make a difference. She was right and called out the lack of professionalism. Judges do this all the time when attorneys are attacking like idiots.
As it should be! Time is money, need to take care of things accurately but also not waste everyone’s time.
@@ChromaticallyIndie lol it's crazy how so many people comment on social media on subjects which they have no experience or actual real knowledge...it's like they watched a couple episodes of Law & Order and now they're ready to take the BAR
She didn’t yell. She showed her displeasure with the defense, but she was very respectful.
She wasn’t respectful
@@WalrusesAreTheOne she calmly stated her issue. She never insulted them. She said they were acting unprofessionally. If anything, they’re not respectful of everyone’s time.
@@WalrusesAreTheOne she was very respectful. Clearly you don’t know what that means.
Not respectful, belittling autorneys in front of courtroom, let alone the world is blatantly disrespectful. She is a terrible judge
@@123456BRye imagine thinking the attorney showing up late, storming out of the courtroom and evading basic questions for the judge is in the right here
I feel sorry for this judge who has to put up with a room full of children.
if she cant handel it, maby she should not be judge???
@@SoyAntonioGaming You can’t handle proper sentence structure, spelling, maybe you shouldn’t comment???
@@verucasalt2391 im comment. deal with it. free spech
@@AM-we6en yes, they are risponsibel for keeping order in court. she need to be intimidate enough so lawyers dont be a baby
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I’ve never heard a judge and lawyer going off like this before. This was definitely a long time coming.
I have...on JAG! But they did that for entertainment purposes.
She's an insecure woman who's trying to compensate her insecurity
I've watched enough trials and I have except worse. This was defective an about time moment. This defense team are a bunch of butthurt egotistical brats.
Seems like a catfight honestly. I heard the judge mention that the defense team has done some things that she didn't like previously, but as someone who hasn't really been paying much attention to this case outside of this and one other video ; it makes it look like the judge is far too emotional and rude to them just from this clip alone.
The defense team has been a train wreck and prioritize dopey menopausal gamesmanship over authentic client advocacy.
Not that I care - he really should have been aborted - but even for a team of low-paid, less-than lawyers, they’re a colossal dumpster fire.
17 people murdered and the defence behaves in this way. Given the defendant clearly committed the atrocities it is one of the most appalling things I have seen in a court.
This is absolutely beyond ridiculous. He’s pled guilty already. Just sentence him and get it done. What a huge waste of tax payers money and a complete waste of everyone’s time!
This whole thing is about deciding the sentencing.
Welcome to American government
Maybe you should move to the Mid-East? That's now how the Justice system works in our country. Every defendant is entitled to a fair and impartial trial, PERIOD!
@@kita476 No, this whole thing is about seeking the death penalty. The State of Florida decided to seek the death penalty. This phase of the trial was not necessary. Florida could have had him in prison for the rest of his life years ago when he confessed.
Now, because _all_ death penalty cases get automatic appeals, he'll be in and out of court for years. Every few years you'll see his face again as the appellate lawyers file appeal after appeal after appeal, each winding through the court system to the Florida Supreme Court.
This all about the prosecutor scoring political points for the next time he has to run for office.
@Em This guy killed 17 people. What other possible sentence is there to give him besides Life?
This judge has been tolerating so much bs from the defense this whole trail. I think she deserves to stand up for herself for once. I don’t understand why people are saying she’s talking down to them. She’s just trying to get a point across that they have been wasting everybody’s time. I would definitely not want to be part of the jury cause just imagine how many times they have to leave their jobs, families, etc. to put up with this nonsense, it’s absolutely uncalled for.
The judge is impatient and unprofessional. The defense is allowed to pursue the case however it sees fit. The judge cannot tell them they have to call witnesses, the judge cannot tell them they are not allowed to rest their case when they want.
This is a death penalty case. The lead defense attorney is a specialist capital defense attorney. If you think the defense attorney is unprofessional, you don't understand how a death penalty defense is normally conducted.
The judge is throwing a fit. She's acting like a child simply because the defense changed its mind earlier. The defense is under _no_ obligation to kowtow to the judge. The judge ought to just accept the defense's decision and call on the prosecution to take up the next phase. The judge is mad that the schedule changed a bit in a _years_ _long_ penalty phase trial. A couple of days, and Judge Karen wants to throw coffee at the help.
@@AndyCutright the schedule changing a bit is wasting people's time when they could be working to assure they get to pay their bills in these times of inflation.
it’s because she’s smart and beautiful
@@AndyCutright The defense has to follow the law & standard court procedures. They were present their case; they had a long list of witnesses they hadn't called yet; both the judge & prosecution were waiting for them to call their witness then the most incompetent lead attorney I've ever seen suddenly announces the defense rests. Even her own team looked shocked. The judge was right to speak the way she did. If there is a successful appeal in this case, it will be based on inadequacy of counsel because of all the F'ups by the defense.
@@AndyCutright I didn't understand why she helped the defense by throwing a tantrum for any reason about how they legally and respectfully run the case. You never know what kind of weird bias a judge is gonna bring to a case but it is always destructive to both sides.
Poor thing, I feel bad for the judge for having to deal with this. They’re trying to make her upset so that they can get a mistrial.
This is the penalty phase so it's even worse they're just trying to keep an L off their record in a death penalty case its not about helping their client.
Now if it was about feeling the judge was biased against them in an actual trial and they were trying to get an objective mistrial as a way of judge shopping, I wouldn't like it but I could at least respect it as it's in the interest of their client. But he already pled guilty.
she kinda deserved it, but still defense should calm down
Added Judge Elizabeth Scherer to my Hall of Respect, along with Judge Judy!! Judge Scherer - you ROCK!!!!!!
I like this judge but judge Judy is horrible
@@brandonhansen2882 well yes but actually no, she gets straight to the point and slams the idiots, and it's actually funny if you watch her
Unfortunately, Judge Scherer no longer rocks. At least from the bench, that is. She was publicly reprimanded by the Florida Supreme Court for the way she handled this case. The supreme court ruled that she viloated several canons (rules) for how a judge is to behave, and further stated that she displayed obvious bias and partiality to the prosecution, even goin so far as to hug the prosecution team and the victims family members when the trial ended. I understand Judge Scherer's actions. She's a parent who empathized and felt great sympathy for the parents who lost children when the crazy a**hole Cruz entered Parkland and murdered 17 people, mostly children. Anyone who has children would sympathize with the parents whose children were brutally murdered that day. She lost all her credibility as a fair and impartial judge and at the end of June of 2023 she retired from the bench.
I watch trials on various channels & I have to say I have never seen such disrespectful council, primarily defense, before. They don’t stand to speak to the judge. They talk over her continuing their position when she tells them her rulings.
I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
It will, just wait.. Then the House of Representatives will become the ‘House of Representin’… And doctors will have to use picture menus like Denny’s… And Costco employees will tell you they love you…
She needs to hold them in contempt.
@@flatiron53 exactly!!
She needed to be stricter at start
She will in future
The standing depends on the judge, some don't require them to stand.
This judge is incredible. Thank you for standing up for families and victims.
They are clearly baiting a mistrial. This is insane.
The fact that this has been going on and on for months is ridiculous. Just throw Nikolas down a hole already, what are we waiting for?
No they're not. You don't understand how courts work.
@@AndyCutright yes they are.
@@Teddymac86 The defense has the right to rest its case. They are under no obligation ethically or legally to continue calling witnesses because the judge says so. If they wanted a mistrial they'd ask for one as they did a couple of months ago.
They have one job: keep Cruz off death row. Cruz is going to prison without any doubt. Their goal is to keep him from bei g executed. They have one strategy to keep him off death row: preserve the record for subsequent appeals. This is how death penalty defense cases are fought. They are unlikely to win this round so the have to prepare for the next round.
There's nothing to be gained from a mistrial at this point. He's already in jail and headed for prison. Delaying the penalty phase doesnt help them one bit. It doesnt help Cruz. The defense isnt working to keep Cruz entertained. Thry arent trying to give Cruz a few more days in a courtroom. They just want to keep him off death row.
Clearly they feeel the record is ready for the upcoming appeals. That's why they rested. There's no tactical benefit to be gained from a mistrial. But please enlighten us how a mistrial is something they want and also how exercising their right to rest their case is at all grounds for a mistrial. Or even how that would work? You think the judge is going to call a mistrial now? For what reason? And please explain the legal foundation for this mistrial they're seeking ...
@@AndyCutright that's not all they are doing, it's also to help them down the road with appeals. Unilateral thinking will only hurt you long term.
This judge should get the judicial medal of honor for putting up with so much BS and posturing and disrespect of a court of law that I've ever seen. Her ability to see this through under such undue duress is astounding.
@@jakeplumber1373 Exactly. Both the defense AND the judge are terrible in this case. They've given the shooter exactly what he wants, an entertainment show of his own life. They're making a joke out of the life of a school shooter and he's loving it. The more entertainment he can see the better, it will feed his ego even more feeling like he's in some kind of movie where he's the villain. If we lived in a perfect world? This case would've been over YEARS AGO and this man would be serving his time without any of this BS and the only entertainment he gets is within his prison cell and the prison itself.
I’ll give her a stiff medal
The judge should not have allowed this. Most people will push the envelope as far as they are allowed to if given a chance. I was in management for 31 years and my staff knew exactly that no BS will be tolerated.
@@jakeplumber1373 you mean the blonde lawyer threw a tantrum and the judge had to put that spoilt brat of child in her place.
@@jakeplumber1373 And why I'm for it. So when homicide { or multiple homicides } are so overwhelmingly inhumane and/or egregious, that we willingly put up with their BS in order that they get their just due. And the victims get true and equal justice. Wake up. Don't be woke.
Absolutely brilliant. She has stood up for herself and last. Go judge
Go judge? She went. After an official reprimand she was forced to resign.
@@nickslick75 I read she was showing bias towards the prosecution that ‘s what the defence claim when there client was 100% guilty of killing 17 people
I've been saying this for weeks, this defense team is a joke. They are dragging on the trial for some reason, I can't tell if it's personal gain but it's definitely gone beyond 'doing their job' at this point, it's frankly embarrassing.
I know! Defense attorneys are critically important overall, but at this point...why are they making fools of themselves while defending an indefensible animal?
They're trying to get the kid off the death penalty.
@@DyanBermeo i think that’s the issue. That “kid” killed other kids and destroyed their families.
They are hoping for a mistrial.
@@shayemarina7930 No they aren't. A mistrial at this point doesn't serve the defense interests. You don't understand how a death penalty case defense is handled. The defense team is led by an experienced death penalty specialist attorney. She has zero interest in a mistrial at this point. If she wanted a mistrial she would have asked for one. But she didn't. She rested.
The judge isn't going to declare a mistrial because there's zero legal basis for it at this point. The prosecution isn't going to ask for a mistrial because they're going to win. Please stop parroting legal phrases you don't understand. You have no idea what's going on.
Wow, these lawyers are insane. They are behaving like children. I am very frightened for the future if this is the new normal. If I were this judge I would start to hold these lawyers in contempt of court.
This is what you get from public defenders
@@nenej12 they are bottom of the barrel? That is why one should never commit any crimes if one does not have enough money for competent legal representation.
Public defender, Low funding and indefensible case. So, No passion left and just going through the motion.
@@sushienjoyer Enough passion to be petty and manipulative.
they are trying way too hard for Public Defenders's your suppose to just let the jury lock your client up and get a paycheck, not actually defend known criminals.
"We're not playing chess!" - that part made me laugh, this lady is clearly sick of their BS! As if there should even be a long drawn out trial for this piece of trash in the first place. What could his defense possibly help with at this point? 100 years + life in prison? or 50+ years in prison + life? Either way the guy is never going to see another day outside prison walls. Give him a public defender and plead for his life, and even that's helping more than he deserves.
Seriously. What a clown show this is
I agree. Total waste of time. They should just have let a judge decide if he gets life or death.
@@BellaLeoLicorice agreed I can’t believe it’s been taking this long
Yep. But she said chest not chess. This defense is the worst
@@momsmakeup07 She said chess, clean out your ears [How does "we're not playing _chest_ " make any sense?? 🤣]
This judge is pulling her hair out, and she is correct this is all very weird and unprofessional. Smh
if she cant handel it, maby she should sit home watch netflix and eat ben and jerreyes (i can highly recommend, it is nice)
What is more weird is my love for you 😻
The judge is pulling he hair out because, despite the fact that the guy has the right to a fair trial... he doesn't deserve that right, and EVERYONE in that court room knows it. Take him out back.
@@Valscorn01 it doesn’t matter if he deserves it or not, it’s in the constitution. The US justice system needs to be a professional system and people need to be tried professionally.
Weren't there instances where the judge didn't even understand her job? and the people talking to her had to explain to her that she's able to do it?
They are a disgrace they should be reprimanded! This judge has been a class act all through. This is terrible what the defence is doing.
the defense behaviour wont help the defendant. and thats good.
@@ParaAkula I can understand that but A good judge won't or at least shouldn't punish a person based on their lawyer's, and she seems like a really good and honest Judge.
Defense is giving Cruz an out to appeal for retrial on the grounds of his state appointed defense not doing their jobs well.
@@maryhirose524 i agree
Thus far, I have seen no defense! He needs a defense team...he has none! Kruz is clearly mentally and emotionally deficient! Thus, why doesn't he have an attorney to argue that? I have not seen, nor heard any defense argue that! No, I do not feel that his actions are acceptable; however, his actions are/were not those of an individual who is of sound mind! He has difficulty expressing himself and his behaviour is not that of a mentally healthy and functioning human being. Yes, the are issues that should have been addressed long before this tragic event! The death penalty is NOT the answer for such a mentally deficient individual.
Furthermore, all I have seen in this trial are friends and relatives of the deceased reading letters from survivors of those who were murdered. I have not seen, nor heard any true prosecution or defense on Kruz' behalf. Quite frankly, I have never seen, nor heard any judicial process quite like this!
I like her no nonsense attitude! We need more judges like her.
Why would the defense lawyer argue with the judge? Seems wildly inadvisable, if only for the sentencing of your client
One word: Mistrial.
They're trying to make her seem unhinged and argumentative and get her to lash out so they can get a mistrial and waste more of our tax money and get a whole new judge and jury. They want him free and not behind bars as long as possible. Disgusting
The judge isn't sentencing the client and the lawyer has a right to make a record.
@@AshA-ww8hc wrong for multiple reasons- he has already been found guilty so this would not be a mistrial as a verdict was already given. The Jury was also not in the room for this so this would not be eligible for a mistrial and lastly in death penalty cases if the penalty is given they are automatically given an appeal. That argument would make sense if they were not in the sentencing portion of the trial.
She's not wrong
This judge has been so professional and patient, particularly with the defense and the BS it's tried to pull, all throughout this trial. She deserves a raise.
The judge is truly impressive. I am amazed at how much she knows and how she maintains control of the games people appear to want to play.
Typical women at their equality 🙄
She better know what she doing
@@shsuususjssnjsus8239 I was thinking the same thing 🤦♀️
“Were not playing chess” this is exactly what a trial is, hang the little monster but he’s still entitled to a defense. Sorry but the Judge is a total Karen here.
@@shsuususjssnjsus8239 you think she's messing up?
Judges are required to maintain order and decorum in the court room when proceedings are underway. Having respect for the jury & their time is important as they fulfill a civic duty. I think she handled herself very well and the defense atty is lucky she was not sanctioned or referred to the State for her conduct.
Well this come didn’t age well. I’m sad to see her being disciplined and condoned for her natural reactions.
This judge is actually so professional. Amazing. She's an asset to the justice system.
Why wouldn't she be?
She’s just resigned. Huge shame.
Except she is being reprimanded for unprofessional conduct and canon violations
@@charlesbarber5157 she resigned she’s ago.
@@Cece-dad17 just because she resigns doesn’t mean she doesn’t get reprimanded; as long as she holds a law license that is all that matters. She will be brought in front of the Supreme Court for her state and chastised for her lack of professionalism.
The major issue is she has now created an appealable issue which means this case isn’t over and there could possibly be a new trial because of the way she acted
The defense attorneys have been like this all trial, unprepared and combative. Like trying to heard cats. Judge has had enough.
Herding cats is probably easier than dealing with these defense lawyers.
100% I have seven cats, you just sort of, scoop them up and toss them where you need them. They pretty much either just fall asleep where they land or just give you an indignant look and saunter off. These attorneys are more like herding douchebags
@@VGApollo 7 cats?! That’s awesome! Cats are the best.
@@river8760 lol yeah, if you take in a stray make sure to ask if it was on birth control, otherwise you get seven cats. They're sweet AF though. Literally just got out of the shower opened my drawer to grab a shirt and there was a cat curled up in there.
@@VGApollo yes, so many ferals due to people not spaying and neutering. It’s sad and frustrating.
Female attorney in pink/red acts like she's above the judge. Ticks me off. I'd be outraged too if I were the Judge!
She got absolutely demolished and embarrassed by the judge
Very funny to watch a lawyer respond to the judge and tries to give her resume to the court! I've run across people like that and they are very narcisstic and ego-maniacs who feel their opinions matter more because they will always believe they are the smartest person in the room.
The judge is not a god. The judge doesn't get to dictate how the defense conducts its case. The judge is going off the rails because her schedule has been slightly changed. A day or two out of months and months of a very complicated death penalty case. The judge is the problem here, and has been since the beginning. She lacks the temperament for this sort of case. Death penalty cases are long and generally tedious because the defense must establish a record for appeal. This means the defense is going to object repeatedly about as many issues as possible. The judge should understand how appeals work, but it's not clear she knows what's happening. If the judge can't handle a drawn out and complex defense with a lot of interruptions and twists, the judge isn't suited to be sitting in that chair.
@@AndyCutright Poo. The defense is trolling the judge and she handled herself exceptionally well. Your comment puts you in the loathsome minority.
I used to hang out in courthouses all day in case someone needed a translator. Never have I seen something as unprofessional as those attorneys. Unbelievable. They're trying to train wreck the trial.
“No m’am”????
Aren’t you supposed to address the judge as “Your Honor”???
I feel sorry for this judge putting up with such unprofessional lawyers I’ve ever seen! They want a mistrial! Keep standing up for your proper procedures in YOUR COURTROOM! The people I feel the most sadness for are the parents and family !
Oh yes feel sorry for a millionaire 🤡
@@HistoryandReviews Exactly! Of ALL the people in the world to feel sorry for feel sorry for stuck up bad attitude b! Tch! Smh
@@HistoryandReviews What is the point of your comment? Genuine curiousity.
@@HistoryandReviews Huh? What millionaire.
@@5evrage doesn't deserve any attention. Kids like to troll
The audacity for the defense to say "you're insulating me" when their unprofessionalism is mind blowing
😂 I just imagined the judge covering the lawyer in foam and plastic rubber! 😂
@@rolando819 🤣🤣🤣
Good for this judge. Calling out snarky lawyers playing games.
How dare you reprimand me in front of my murderous client! If only your client put as much effort to delay his murder spree, things may have been much different.
Melissa McNeil is so unprofessional. She’s been disrespectful to the judge from the very beginning
I love the judge. She’s such a baddie and I love how angry she gets.
She's nothing without her cape
judge??? she is a noob she doesnt even own a PS5
Same, she has shown me more how to have a backbone and be in charge.
I love that Barbie girl
Nah, she‘s so over the top with her facial expressions, only thing missing is her rolling her neck and snapping her fingers
I’m so proud of Judge Scherer!!! She put that defense attorney in her place!! LONG OVERDUE!! She was very patient through this whole trial, I’m so glad she got tough!! She’s not only beautiful, she’s a strong smart woman!!
When even the judge starts claiming unprofessionalism, then you know it's not a fair trial.
We need more judges like her.
"You are insulting me in front of my client," says the defense attorney for the highly disturbed and brutal man who pleaded guilty to over 30 counts of murder and attempted murder, at his sentencing trial for life in prison or death.
Yeah that creeps me out. She has such a high regard for him. Now just speculating no proof, but maybe she is a neo nazi and nik is a hero to them. Maybe she just has a crush on him. Either way she is a creeper
Right? Oh dear, Nikolas Cruz may think less of her…
Maybe im missing some prior context or information, but I'm halfway through the video and the judge seems to be the main one that is pressed and cutting people off impatiently.
I get people don't like the defendant or defense team and think the judge is pretty, but am i missing something other than that?
@@spongebob8445 yup . Judge is doing her job with a high standard of professionalism and class. The defense is outrageous. One of the things they were made about is not being able to break the law.
Yes, that was the most egregious lack of self-awareness I've EVER had the displeasure of witnessing. That woman is one of the most irritating people I've ever seen, but that comment makes her the most inappropriate as well. I hope to God she is shamed and blackballed for her antics and ends up working at Wendy's after this.
The lack of disrespect they have for this judge is a disgrace !!!
Only the defence!! But the judge is also an insecure woman. Why ask the prosecutors if they have anyone ready today? They didn't expect the sudden request of the defence
@@hus390 she is insecure because she is not a gamer... she only read books and other stuff like noobs do
Lack of respect you mean. 🤣
@@SoyAntonioGaming oh what a little world you inhabit .../smh
@@hus390 She asked the state if they would have anyone ready because no one thought the defense would pull this surprise closing crap. Cruz's attorneys are just trying to be disruptive.
Good lord that is the finest Judge I’ve ever seen ❤️
Yea foreal she is beyond gorgeous
Beautiful face.
This judge has been fantastic and handled the case well. So proud of her
The judge should hold the defence team in contempt! I cannot believe the judge was called out as being insulting!!! WTH?
These lawyers have no shame in their behavior so I guess they’re in good company by representing him.
“Unprofessional” is the most common word used when describing the defence lawyers with the two most notable being the two female lawyers seated in the middle of the defence table. If I were the judge I would have cautioned all the lawyers that grandstanding and unbecoming behaviour in such a high profile and significant case would result in contempt charges. And then I wouldn’t have hesitated to do it, especially to those two defence lawyers. Totally disgraceful behaviour.
And give the kids the most free mistrial in history? Bruh
I certainly would have held them in contempt a long time ago. This is a zoo.
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek how could he get a mistrial though? The trial is over, I thought. Isn’t this just for sentencing?
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek and we should remember that we aren't judges and perhaps there are things we may not consider hmmmmm? 🙃
I would have held them in contempt several times.
The one in pink should also be brought up on review as an officer of the court. They may not have a license much longer.
You can't blame the prosecution for not having things ready today, since the defence suddenly rested their case!!! It's like your match is suppose to end after the defence's match, and they bail out on the 3rd quarter.
She wasn’t blaming the prosecution. She was annoyed that the defence sprung this on them all at the last minute and was wasting everyone’s time.
I blame the prosecution in the sense that the case is “he went into a school and murder students in cold blood”. I don’t exactly understand how this is taking so long when the defense has already pled guilty.
@@TNTITAN I'm not following very closely, but isn't this the sentencing phase? i.e. deciding between death and life in prison? So the defense is trying to blame his actions on all sorts of things in an attempt to get him life instead of death. Again I'm not following closely so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
"If she doesn't do the assignment...I can't do mine" Clueless '95
@@8180634 You are correct and most sentence phases do not take a month.
That stunned silence the judge gave after “at this time the defense would rest” killed me 😂😂😂😂
She should have made them all pay the court costs!
That will will stop the BS real quick.
Good idea!
That was really powerful, I’m in awe at how well she handled the situation such a boss!
the jury is a beauty!
The only problem with calling out the lawyers like this is giving grounds for this trial to be overturned.
This behaviour is insulting to the victims of the Parklands Massacre.Well done Judge.
Wow. The defense is ridiculous unprofessional and unprepared.
His whole team has been unprofessional through our this trial. One would think she had Amber Heard's team. 🤦🏻♀️
You clearly didn't watch the trial. AH's team were professional throughout. It was JD's team that were badgering, bullying, making faces, giggling like school children, etc.
@@b.1162 AH team was inept in other ways.
@@verucasalt2391 Even so, that doesn't mean they were "unprofessional", especially in contrast to Camille, which is the point I was making.
@@b.1162 LMAO 😂😂 are you one of those that "stand with Amber" 🤦🤦
@@b.1162 you're speaking outta your behind you clown 🤡
This is actually believe it or not the calmest judge I’ve ever seen
We need more judges like her !!
She has had enough! Rightly so. This is a circus.
Edit: my apologies for using the wrong ‘council’ instead of ‘counsel’ and thanks to those who corrected me in the replies.
This judge is absolutely right. I’ve only been an attorney for around 4 years and I haven’t even followed this case super closely which blows my mind to realize how much unprofessionalism and how unprepared these attorneys have been. I understand this is a stressful very long trial with hundreds of people who have been negatively impacted by the incident but good god she is right.
Every day further this goes on she is adapting and changing to fit each individual council’s mistakes, unpreparedness, and often times tardy schedules. To be honest with you I am amazed how well she has kept together throughout all the bs she has dealt with from both sides of counsel.
I have seen counsel question and/or disrespect the judge several times throughout this trial be it directly through disagreeing with her rulings or showing up late because of them as she pointed out.
Good for her for straightening out that courtroom because it is her court. I don’t think I know of any judges that would have allowed or taken everything she has all this time without reaching a breaking point sooner and taking ahold of their courtroom.
She's doing such a great job that the whole thing will be appealed successfully. These Judges think they are Livestream movie stars now.
I'm not sure how the defense lawyers are assigned or if in fact they are assigned in this type of trial. Would it be that the state provides the lawyers? If so could that explain the lack of respect and professionalism?
@@jennygater7775 I’m so sorry this is going to be a very long reply.
To be honest I’m not entirely sure. Everyone has a constitutional right to have an attorney appointed to represent them should they not be able to afford it so that is what I believe you’re referencing when you are asking if the attorney is appointed by the state and I’m also not entirely sure who is paying for Mr. Cruz’s council but I have never heard of council provided by the state having more than 1 attorney appointed for 1 case. I could be wrong because this is a very big case obviously so I guess maybe it is possible more than 1 attorney was appointed by the state to represent him because of the magnitude of the trial.
This being said, I do remember reading about something back in may of 2019 that the judge had rejected the public defenders request to make Mr. Cruz hire private council so I will be making the assumption the attorneys are in fact appointed by the state.
Regardless of a private hire or a public appointee, they are still defense so it is their job to do all that is in the best interest of the defendant. This includes challenging the prosecution (who are the attorneys seeking the charges on behalf of the state) and the judge her/himself to maintain the defendants fair treatment.
This being said, that has not been the case. Challenging a judge’s decision and disrespecting the judge are 2 very different things. These defense attorneys have disrespected the judge several times when the judge has been VERY fair to both sides of council this far.
But to answer your question, though these defense attorneys aren’t operating on behalf of the state that is the reason even public defenders will sometimes challenge a judge if they feel something is unfair.
So basically what I’m trying to say is there is no extra significance for challenging a judge simply because council is acting on behalf of the state or via private council. So in conclusion, there is absolutely 0 reason for an attorney to disrespect a judge, regardless of who they represent.
Judges are an unbiased third party that have the responsibility of ensuring a fair trial for both sides so this further explains disrespecting a judge does no good because the judge isn’t on one side or another they’re the middle ground.
Sorry this was so long, it is hard to answer that question thoroughly in a short response. Good question!
Since you are a lawyer can I ask is this normal in a penalty phase case? It's been almost a month. They took the jury out to the school. I have never seen this before. Thank you.
@@debbysalmon2498 Well every case is very different in their own individual way but I would say no, this is nothing like what one would consider a 'normal trial'.
I would say the length of the trial is more rare but certainly possible. But taking the jury to a crime scene is not common practice that I'm aware of. Put simply, no; nearly everything I have seen in this trial would not be considered normal.
She should give them a warning and say, next time I have to talk to you about this, you will be in contempt. It seems that lawyers are becoming closer and closer to being the criminals.
A huge part of legal proceedings is natural human reactions and psychology. It is so unprofessional as defense attorneys to behave this way which could subconsciously tarnish the judge’s view of the defense in general leading to the client receiving a harsher sentence because of how they presented themselves. (even though his outcome has never looked promising)
Maybe, deep down that’s what his lawyer is hoping for. She obviously can’t just come out and say she hopes little Nicky gets the chair, but maybe, just maybe, deep deep down in her cold little lawyer heart, she’s trying to sabotage him.
@@RandomBogey I wouldn’t be surprised.
@@sA-ny2jl I see, I haven’t been watching all of it, but if your witnesses are helping the prosecution something is wrong. I majored in Criminology so my opinions about the DP and criminal defense are different but there is so much to be discussed about how complex the brain is especially when trauma takes place before and after birth. They could have kept their witnesses only to present scientific and expert testimony and left the personal accounts of his aggression alone to show that he has some biological factors that led to his behavior. With things like this I always believe: Understanding the root cause of a person’s behavior is NOT excusing them.
Your comment aged like milk, Einstein.
They tryna put her through loops as if she’s clueless glad she finally had enough and told them what’s up.
If the renal attorneys been doing this for 22 years she needs to retire
The defence seem like most amateur lawyers I've ever seen!
She handled them very well. I would have tossed in multiple curse words
What a gigantic waste of money the dude plead guilty, Give him his sentence and move on.
Even the defendant must be so embarassed and be like "oh jeesus... give me the death penalty already"
GOD CAN THEY JUST SENTENCE HIM ALREADY
The defense must finish with their shenanigans. They did say they rested their case, so hopefully we can sentence this evil person.
This judge is out of control...so unprofessional lol 😆 😅🤣
She's just exhausted as much as we are
The McNeil defense lead (lady in the pink) has been nothing but disrespectful to the judge since day one. I watch a lot of court trials and I’ve never seen a defense attorney be so rude to judge before.
Yup clearly she is insecure and jealous of the judge
How much tax payer money is being wasted on this trial of someone who is clearly guilty and not worthy of freedom, rights, or life??
Drop a contempt of court on them
I love this Judge ! She's awesome 👌 !
No.. she's not. She's insecure!!!
@@hus390 you're insecure. You've been crying all over the comments. Stfu already. We get it, you can't stand beautiful women in positions of power. Get over it little boy.
Doesn't she have the right to contempt charges?
Defense probably didn’t want the State to question Zach and Richard on their tv show. It’s probably a tactic of the defense to leave the rest of the witnesses to the appeal if it happens.
You need an extremely good reason to introduce new evidence on appeal. Usually, it needs to be evidence that you couldn't reasonably have introduced at trial. If you just hold back evidence strategically then you are stuck with that decision.
I think Cruz was tired of sitting there day after day and told his lawyers to end it.
@@lumpstersmouse5471 bingo! Remember he is playing like he’s not involved for the courtroom and cameras trust me he gives those lawyers grief probably a lot behind the scenes
@@nenej12
Yep. Absolutely agree.
Looks like defence is incompetent and delaying proceedings
This is what they have been doing the whole time! delaying, because they know there client is DONE!
@@nenej12 Wrong! This is strategy. They are saving witnesses in case DP is given. They need to have a whole new defense in case of appeal (new witnesses and testimony).
@@67italiana he pled guilty which means no new trial, no new witnesses and no new evidence being submitted! He is done…so go across the street
@@nenej12 The sentence can be reversed by the Supreme Court if new evidence are presented...Goodbye
@@67italiana I doubt if this will even go to the Supreme Court lol he is done
This judge needs a chill pill.
Imagine having to defend a school shooter who has zero remorse in not only court but the world.
I want her to yell at me
Lol 😆
I love this judge. The look on her face, lol. This has been the best year for trials, ever.
This Judge is absolutely awesome! I wish all judges were like this one. She don’t take no s*** from anybody! Put that punk in his place!
I don't think she is normally like this. The defense shenanigans have brought this about.
I have watched a lot of court trials in my life and never seen anything so Ridiculous in my life. Unbelievable.
Unprofessionalism is a kind word. Yo go judge! Handle that.
"Judge, you have insulted me in front of my client? WHAT?? You are worried about being insulted in front of a mass murderer?? Get a life lady! STFD and shut up!
They’re inconsiderate, unprofessional, and if they’re using this behavior to later on give him a chance at appeal by “incompetent counsel” or a mistrial they should be disbarred
YES
Wouldnt that look bad for their career though? 2 b Labelled incompetent?
@@fuddshake Maybe to their peers, but they get paid by defendants. If they could get Cruz off for what he did, they could get anyone off. So they’ll be hired by lots of defendants.
@@animaanimus8011 "Ineffective counsel" isn't getting anyone off, and neither is a mistrial. It's just restarting the whole process and putting on record that they're incompetent.
@@animaanimus8011 I’m not sure Cruz has any payment to offer. He doesn’t even have a family to provide payment.
The "defense" is fishing for a mistrial. That's the only thing they've got. Delay, delay, delay.
Who is the defence lawyer? My goodness me, I've never seen anyone act like that before.
It's what you get when you rely on the state to provide for you
They are a gaggle of angry, disorganized children with ZERO professionalism. They should be disbarred.
Melissa McNeil
I love this judge! This defense has been a disgrace the entire trial.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
This judge needs to win a medal! I would not have the patience!
Yes! I love this Judge 🖤!
This judge has had it with the attourney's shenaningans....it's about time she put them all in their place! Good for her.
She has been amazing.
The judge should hold each and every one of them in contempt, absolute bobbleheads.
This trial is longer than OJs and there’s no mystery here on who done it!
Unfortunately the trial was delayed for reasons beyond the court's control; the most recent of these was Hurricane Ian.
The attorney in red is such a piece of work.
She's an unhappy, malcontent narcissist without an ounce of professionalism.
@@eucliduschaumeau8813 excellent summation.
What happened? I don’t understand who was doing what wrong
@@raginbakin1430 she’s been awful this entire trial. It’s something you need to see really, to understand,
Defense is sandbagging it big time, not even shy about it.
I hope that if people need defense lawyers they don't choose these. They sure to lose their cases. It is absolutely disgusting behavior from Mrs MacNeil and should have some kind of punishment for it. I have watched this trial right from the start and she was extremely rude on many occasions and that should not be acceptable.