One of the defense attorneys actually said-no one in this room has been through what we’ve been through……. In a room full of family who lost a loved one to the school shooter! Unbelievable
Imagine defending murderers in court and acting surprised when the murder victims families give you a hard time. Am I the only one who thinks this just goes with the territory? If a lawyer who defends murderers can't handle people not liking them for doing their job then they shouldn't be doing that job in the first place. Thin-skinned prima donnas.
I heard something about them being forced to take the case..but, they're not legal aides, so I'm not sure how true that is. So I'll say it like this - IF they weren't forced and they volunteered for this case (most likely knowing it was going to get them press, even bad press), then they deserve any blow-back they got and will continue to get. Idc how much money I was being offered, u couldn't pay me enough to defend a monster like this.
@@limit420 exactly… if they had a moral bone in their body they would have quit their job. They chose DEFENSE as their path in Law… they can take what goes along with trying to get criminals off the hook for their crimes.
In the past few weeks we have seen two amazing female judges preside over very difficult cases involving mass murderers. Hats off to these amazing women!
Judge Dorrow and who was the other one? Judge Dorrow is a true judge and has patience and makes sure she is impartial. This crazy judge should not be a sitting judge with a hot temper and biased treatment like this.
What’s exactly have they “endured”?!!!! Imagine having to endure a whole lifetime without your child,son or daughter.THAT’S enduring.How dare they say that.
They are talking about the fact that they were forced to defend him by this judge when he had plenty of inherited money from his mother passing away they are public defenders if you didn't know that they didn't want to take this case period this judge forced them
@@Jupiter1423 oh exactly because like every other defense attorney they are supposed to fight for there clients lives that is what they have to do and however they have to do that if they have to bring up his past how he was a s a child whatever that is there job there is a defense team and a prosecution team for a reason these people want to blame that whole table for one of those defense attorneys conduct with sticking there middle finger up and laughing with Nicholas Cruz which again she was the only one who did it not the whole table yet they all are being blamed for it by the judge the families and the public and everyone knows it was only one person who did it and she wasn't present after that she probably got fired for it to be honest
By far the most unprofessional attorneys in a high profile case ever- they should be embarrassed and the attorney who flipped the bird belongs in jail for contempt.
@@ashleye6523 That makes sense- still there should be significant punishment for this, but not disbarring- that's too harsh. Maybe a significant fine - $10,000 or something like that, or maybe some time in jail.
They should be disbarred, they are a disgrace to all of the lawyers out there. I understand they are not the first and not the last ones to defend a murderer, but the way they have handled themselves throughout this whole trial was just… awful, to say the least.
They are an absolute DISGRACE. Love this Judge. The fact that they wish to curtail what these victims and survivors have to say is appalling. They chose to represent a MONSTER they can suffer the consequences.
NEVER thank a lawyer. If they were on the opposing side, they would do EXACTLY the same. The needle on their moral compass is constantly spinning round.
@@D0VES0AP Not necessarily. I've seen some trials were the judge refused to let the victims speak freely and the prosecution just sat back quietly without fighting for the families
@@LuckyRob19 well whatever a judge says in the courtroom usually goes the only thing they really could do is file a motion but im not even sure if thats allowed for impact statements
Did Melisa McNeil forget that Nicholas Cruz has already been found guilty and that this is the sentencing hearing? Where'd she go to law school, Darrell Brooks University?
She was mad. genuinely mad at what the defence was trying to do and at the way they had acted throughout the trial and finally had an opportunity to say something.
Very well spoken. You could tell she was upset and mad with the defense but held her composure and professionalism. She seems very loving amd caring but firm.
Not only well spoken and empathetic to the victims but she really showed her professionalism here, citing every source to back up what she was saying against the defence so they had no wiggle room to argue, she cornered them morally, legally and powerfully. She really showed off her legal chops here. What a powerhouse.
When the defence guy said that no one in this courtroom has had to endure what me and my team have had to endure. Even if he felt the parents did over step the mark at times by attacking his team personally you would think someone with an extensive education and years of experience would choose his words more carefully than playing the poor us card infront of these poor families who’s lives have been forever darkened by their clients actions. They have behaved impeccably under massive amounts of emotion and stress. Really amazing people . The judge is a lovely lady too from the bits I saw
I fully agree with everything you said, except for the remark about the parents 'overstepping the mark' by personally attacking the defense team. The TEAM has done nothing but try to insult the victims and families and the court by their heinous actions in defending their client. Yes, they have a mandate to defend their client to the best of their ability, but by their actions and words, THEY overstepped the mark.
@@TheJMPD so public defenders should do "just enough" to fight for you? really? you want that type of defence when your being appointed a defender? might as well have every individual plead guilty because even with the "defend to the best of thier ability" mandate that you suggest would make the entire legal system more a joke than it already is...
@@mikeymaiku Did you not read where I said that the defense team has a mandate to defend their client to the best of their ability? You mention it, but I think that you fail to grasp the reality of the statement. A defense attorney only has to place 'reasonable doubt' about their client's guilt in the minds of the jurors. That does NOT entitle them to ridicule, demean, or debase the victims, or their families.
@@TheJMPD too bad your feelings are hurt over this. The system is a joke and "calling for change" is some of the funniest one sided opinions ever in youtube conments
@@TheJMPD What a very, very silly thing for you to say. Problem is there are so many innocent people that go to jail defence attorneys are supposed to be FULL BIAS for their client and defend them TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. That is their job. Doesn't matter if they agree with their client or not. Imagine you were falsely accused, and your defence attorney is doing the bare minimum. Try using your brain for once.
They put in the shittiest ppl cuz they knew it wouldn’t matter if he had the best lawyers in the world, he still shot and killed tons of children. He’s going away.
She mentioned her kids threw the trial then gets pissed when a woman who lost her child to the monster defending mentions them . Don’t get me wrong I don’t think anyone kids from judge ,defence or state should been brought into this but you can’t bring your kids up threw the trial then cry foul when someone else does it .
For people defending the defence team: We're not mad that they are doing their jobs - they have to defend him and that's fine. We are mad about their childish and insensitive behaviour towards the victims. Yes, you have to defend the indefensible but you do not have to laugh/joke around with him by throwing a middle finger up. You also don't have to be disrespectful and state "THESE people will never not be affected by this" while waving a hand at the victims of YOUR CLIENT (his guilt is not even in question on this; he's a proven and admitted mass murderer); do not look down your nose at his victims, do not try to minimise their loss and making yourself the bigger victims. At the end of the day, you get to go home and hug your kids while they do not. THAT is why people are mad at the defense.
A mass murderer, who also brags about killing animals and seeks out child porn: his expensive defense team was totally incapable of objectivity or decorum. DISGUSTING.
That victims impact is in place for a reason!! If you had a loved one that was senselessly killed it helps in the healing process to address their killer
It's Broward County (70% liberal). 🤷🏾♂️ It should have been death sentence (aggregators massively outweigh the mitigation), any fair person who look at the scale would have reached that conclusion. But the unanimous verdict requirement (new to Florida and the fact that Broward County is a very liberal county) made one dishonest woman get in the jury and ruin justice without fear or consideration of community's good. I kept repeating my warning that the current law is not really the law the legislature wanted. It was forced on us, then we had an opportunity to change it and we missed that before the trial. 👉🏿 Before 2016, no unanimous decision was required for death sentences in Florida. The Florida Supreme Court initially erred by saying unanimity is required, before reversing it 2020. In between, the legislature amended the law to comply with the court ruling in 2016, but didn't restored the simple majority rule after 2020. A judgement of death (even if not administered until some 15 years later) would have been a value judgement on what he did, unlike what happened here, where his life was worth more than all 17 victims. This is a killer who searched on google "good songs to hear while killing people" before he went to that school. And the mitigation case was thoroughly debunked. 👉🏿 If the awful juror was an anti death penalty hack, her dishonesty may know backfire and increases the death penalty verdicts after the legislature restore our simple majority rule.
I think it's wrong for the families to bring up defence's children, but they need to grow a thicker skin. The public don't understand their job. So what? Don't make yourself the focus on victim's day. Their client got off
@@HusseinDoha actually, if people would try to understand things they don't understand, we'd all be well off. Their children don't deserve to be brought up or even threatened. If the defense would have done their job to their best ability and professionalism, their character wouldn't be attacked.
@@cigarettesandredlips Actually, they didn't miss the point. The Defense was asking for the victims to not attack them and their families. They were appointed, they are required to make a defense for this kid. I think you are the one missing the point.
@@hewster1 defence attorney brought their children up quite few times threw the trial ( why? What had her children got do with anything ?) but when a family member does she doesn’t like it ?
@@KingoftheRoad-2023 Flipping off the judge and the victims families is the exact opposite of a good defense lawyer, thats how you earn yourself a civil lawsuit or a large fine.
@@apassionatenerd.3564 That was never an issue, because if the judge had tried to do something like that, then the judge's illegal actions would come to light as well.
It is absurd that convicted murderers are allowed to hide behind a face mask outside of medical necessity. The victims should have the right to face him directly in court.
It may be COViD protocol to make sure he transfers to prison on time. I doubt the jail is going to miss him and don’t want anything to interfere with that transfer.
Screw the defence attorneys!!! They have been so incredibly disrespectful to all the families and judge! God forbid they ever have to go through what these families have had to endure. I hope their kids remain safe. Shame on them , oh and so now you are a caring parent????
Stop sexually objectifying women. She is more than just a body.... She is an intelligent human being, a mother, and a friend to someone... Stop reducing her to just her looks and have some respect. Men have been trained to only view women as just something for them to look at and lust after and it's gotten old.
@@Face_Reality What's old is women attacking men for existing. What's old is women thinking men are only into sex, and just for the sake of sex, at that (nothing relational). THAT'S what's old. Stop reducing men to hormones. We're not sexual robots. We're people, just like women are. We weren't "trained" for anything. We were born, like women were born. And so, we go through life experiences, like women go through life experiences.
Defending the indefensible. I'm so sorry the families had to go through this, it's like they're being punished twice. The defence lawyers are shocking.
The defense attorney's behavior during this whole case has been appalling. I hope their careers and personal lives suffer a quarter as much as these victim's families have. They should be ashamed of themselves and I can tell you those who have watched them during these procedures find them all disgusting.
they were appointed by the public defenders office. they had no choice but to do their jobs. now the judge is allowing the victim parents to name call them and their kids for doing their jobs. That is not ok. If you dont want public defenders abolish the 6th ammendment and everything it conveys. And just have public lynchings.
I would’ve shut them down immediately when they said they don’t understand what they had to endure. I lost my beloved brother to a physcho man who stabbed him to death!! My family and I had to endure through this pain and suffering in our hearts.
I am so sorry. I lost my brother also. A very “well respected” man who owned the local bank crossed the double line at over 60 mph in a 40 mph zone and hit my brother head on and he was drunk! As I was racing towards the scene the officers told the man “you need to get out of here now” because he was intoxicated!!!! The judge, the lawyers, the police ALL covered up for this man! My family had to mortgage our home in order to pay the 12k for a funeral, casket and burial plot! The traffic officer who spent over a month recreating the scene and accident even said my brother was all the way on the other side of the road waiting to cross when he was hit at over 60 mph! We also had witnesses from the party he had just left who gave statement that they man was extremely intoxicated and they even offered to drive him home and the one threatened to take his keys!! The judge STILL threw out the case for vehicle homicide, manslaughter or unintentional manslaughter! It was disgusting and everyone locally knows it. Unfortunately being in a small county certain people get away with everything! It destroyed my entire family If you don’t mind talking about it, what happened to your brother? Did he know this man? What we’re the circumstances? I can’t imagine what you and your family went through and STILL continue to go through. It never goes away, We only find ways to deal with these untimely deaths of our loved ones. The anger, hatred and utter frustration and confusion is always below the surface for me. I pray you have been able to find some peace. Look forward to hearing back from you. Sending love
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 they didn’t win - he wasn’t going to be sentenced to death bc of his age anyway. Plus they have been unprofessional and flipped off the court. Doubtful they will work again until hired by another mass shooter.
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 It's Broward County (70% liberal). 🤷🏾♂️ It should have been death sentence (aggregators massively outweigh the mitigation), any fair person who look at the scale would have reached that conclusion. But the unanimous verdict requirement (new to Florida and the fact that Broward County is a very liberal county) made one dishonest woman get in the jury and ruin justice without fear or consideration of community's good. I kept repeating my warning that the current law is not really the law the legislature wanted. It was forced on us, then we had an opportunity to change it and we missed that before the trial. 👉🏿 Before 2016, no unanimous decision was required for death sentences in Florida. The Florida Supreme Court initially erred by saying unanimity is required, before reversing it 2020. In between, the legislature amended the law to comply with the court ruling in 2016, but didn't restored the simple majority rule after 2020. A judgement of death (even if not administered until some 15 years later) would have been a value judgement on what he did, unlike what happened here, where his life was worth more than all 17 victims. This is a killer who searched on google "good songs to hear while killing people" before he went to that school. And the mitigation case was thoroughly debunked. 👉🏿 If the awful juror was an anti death penalty hack, her dishonesty may know backfire and increases the death penalty verdicts after the legislature restore our simple majority rule.
@@HusseinDoha Absolutely right. This sentence was a disgrace. That law is a disgrace. One fanatic liberal activist has the power to let this muss murderer escape the DP. So sad and frustrating. I hope karma exist. Some people deserve the worst. So sad for those family that they had to endure this stupid trial. If this monster didn't get DP, no point to have the DP available.
As a parent it makes my blood boil this trial has lost focus. The parents are given orders and their pain suppressed and that evil piece of shit sits and enjoy every bit of attention.. I hope some one in jail dishes out karma. His parents should also suffer just like the victims families. Even more
This judge and the one from the Darrell Brooks case are two of the best I've ever seen. Also Penny Azcarate from the Depp-Heard trial. All three are legends.
Do not ever take the voice of victims away. Shameless defense, they’re a bunch of evildoers and trying to bend the law to suit them. They’re sickening and by defending this monster they showed their true colors and the wheel is turning… God bless the judge and the victims and the prosecutors!
These defense attorneys are despicable individuals, and it is not because they are representing a monster. The unprofessional conduct is beyond reprehensible! No one should hire these disgusting individuals!
this case has killed these lawyers careers. that's what they're worried about. as soon as this case is done, they will be the most hated individuals in the nation and no one will ever hire them again.
Are you kidding? They've gotten multiple killers off from the death penalty. That is their specialty and the state pays them well to do it. Nobody but hysterical halfwits blame them for winning their case.
@@nenej12 LOL, they have been the top defense for death penalty cases in Broward Cty for 20 years, they'll be fine. They're good at their jobs, and the families will get over hating the US Constitution. Most people are smart enough to not blame the defense for doing the job that they are paid to do.
@@nellym.6555 How is giving the middle finger during a murder case "just doing its job"? I'm all for rigourous defense, but there's a line they crossed into inappropriate actions.
I am as angry at his defense team at this point as him. They should spend some time in jail as well. Why the judge hasn't slapped them with contempt at this point escapes me.
Contempt for what? Doing their job and she doesn’t like it? She should not be a judge for getting mad at them for doing their job. She clearly shows bias here. Which judges CAN NOT do. They didn’t even have a choice but to represent him.
@@Remmysage What are you even talking about? They did have the liberty to not represent him. When lawyers get out of line, the judge calls them out on it; nothing new here.
@@josephhodges9819 So many people have such a fundamental misunderstanding of the justice system. The defense team HAD NO CHOICE. The fact that so many people don't understand what Public Defenders are, is astounding.
@@Remmysage these clips are so crazy one sided, they start with the defense team saying something which sounds "insensitive" then the prosecution says something which makes it sound further as though the defense is being improper then the bias judge forgets the law and pretends that they are being indecent. Welcome to the new way for broadcasting a trial to whittle away at the presumption of innocence and the dignity of every human being, even the contemptuous.
Awesome work by this judge. Patient and calm throughout, but rightly put a stop to the defense shenanigans. All for a robust defense of all defendants, but well done by the judge throughout these proceedings from all that I’ve watched.
How she hasn’t straight went off on them is astonishing, I been punching the screen everytime i see him or his defense attorney and the way that those assholes treat the judge and the victims
Everyone has a right to a lawyer under the constitution. Though I think their purpose really should be only to make sure his rights are not violated nothing more.
@@parley1994 what you think, fortunately, does not matter. They are REQUIRED to mount an aggressive defense. We are a nation of laws, and criminal justice depends on presumption of innocence. Everyone here screaming about the defense might enjoy North Korea or Russia🙄
The defense attorney Ms Mcneal can't even stand to address the judge, how disrespectful. She objection to victims statements because she knows this will include addressing the defences' pathetic behaviours. Shameful
It doesn't matter what the defense attorney's were or weren't saying or feeling. In court you never, ever bring up anything about the Judge's personal business when it has absolutely nothing to do with the case. That lawyer knows better and went there anyway. He brought it down on himself. Her response may have been over the top, but she had every right in Her Courtroom to slap him down. This defense counsel has been running rip-shod over the court with it's actions and demeanor. They are very lucky that the Judge hasn't yet found them in contempt. They need to stop making a fuss over the victims statements, it's just highlighting how badly they have been conducting themselves. It's not about them, it's about getting the defendant the best decision from the jury based on the facts. The victim statements are not 'Facts" they are opinions that the law allows them to express. These defense lawyers need to start acting like the professionals that they supposedly are meant to be.
@@David_B_Dornburg The judge allowed the defense's families to be threatened. That was a stupid thing for her to do because she will get a scolding for that.
@@David_B_Dornburg Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that doesn't give them the right to insult the defense's children. And the judge apparently didn't understand what was going on or didn't care.
The defense did there job! Rather we all like the decision of the jury. The court system requires a defense in a trail. Well! The scriptures say the eye of a needle a lawyer getting into heaven. I am for the death penalty! I also believe God has his hand in everything. Perhaps the ultimate test is this-We trust his justice. We put the final verdict in his ✋. His knows all things! My hope is the families' receive comfort from our creator.
Are the defence attorneys really claiming to be victims here? They’re in a courtroom full off families who lost the children and love ones at the hands of their vile client!
I really feel for Public Defenders... Its a lose lose situation in most cases and its rare to have good ones and most public defenders are failed private practice attorneys but there is a difference between doing your duty to our constitution and just being horrible people. Playing the victim card in a room full of grieving parents, family and friends is the low of lows along with trying to stop those victims from confronting the murderer.
It is amazing how lawyers can be so disrespectful without morals nd act in such a disgusting manner without retribution. Hope these low life scum bags get barred for professional misconduct or alienated from their chosen profession so they never work again.
How can you speak on the behalf’s of such a cruel evil human being,imagine the pain for the rest of your life having to live without your son or daughter that’s what is enduring
The jury has been dismissed. These victim statements should be wide open. It won't change anything in the sentencing but gives them the last say, completely appropriate. The defence rested more then a week ago. They should be very limited in any further input, if any. To achieve what? However and not a pass, the defence has no case on anything so they will try anything, even step outside legal ethics fundamentals.
Incompetent and power trip judge. Didnt conduxt heraelf with the dignity of a judge. This is what happens when unworthy people geta power. She turned it into like a cat fight. She had to resign before the commission could take action.
context matters people. The defense isnt defending Cruz from the victims namecalling. They're defending themselves from the namecalling from the victim's family members. It's disgusting that the judge is allowing that. Nikolas Cruz is a piece of shit, no one is defending that and that's ok. But getting in with the defense team kids is fucked up. This got ugly and it is all on the judge
What’s disgusting is the defense attorneys laughing and putting up the middle finger during the course of this trial. Their actions have warranted whatever response they have gotten.
So you think it’s ok for them to wish death upon their children and you also wish death upon their children cause your perception of them is they don’t respect the court. You should re evaluate yourself if you think that way!
Sorry but once the defense attorney, not Cruz, flipped off the court and victims, they are fair game. I can't believe all you people defending them just happen to leave that part out.
Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that does not give them the right to insult the defense's children. They have nothing to do with the case. For doing your job you would like them to insult your children.
Their children should not be brought into it when they’re just doing their job and protecting everyone’s 6th amendment constitutional right, including yours. Their children shouldn’t be subject to hate cause their job was to defend a guy who killed others kids. They shouldn’t be having the parents of the murdered go after their children cause they did their job. Just cause their kids were murdered (which is a horrible thing) doesn’t give them grounds to say anything about their children for simply doing their job.
Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that does not give them the right to insult the defense's children. They have nothing to do with the case. For doing your job you would like them to insult your children.
One of the defense attorneys actually said-no one in this room has been through what we’ve been through……. In a room full of family who lost a loved one to the school shooter! Unbelievable
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No wonder so many people despise lawyers.
Imagine defending murderers in court and acting surprised when the murder victims families give you a hard time. Am I the only one who thinks this just goes with the territory? If a lawyer who defends murderers can't handle people not liking them for doing their job then they shouldn't be doing that job in the first place. Thin-skinned prima donnas.
I heard something about them being forced to take the case..but, they're not legal aides, so I'm not sure how true that is.
So I'll say it like this - IF they weren't forced and they volunteered for this case (most likely knowing it was going to get them press, even bad press), then they deserve any blow-back they got and will continue to get.
Idc how much money I was being offered, u couldn't pay me enough to defend a monster like this.
@@limit420 exactly… if they had a moral bone in their body they would have quit their job. They chose DEFENSE as their path in Law… they can take what goes along with trying to get criminals off the hook for their crimes.
In the past few weeks we have seen two amazing female judges preside over very difficult cases involving mass murderers. Hats off to these amazing women!
Judge Dorrow and who was the other one? Judge Dorrow is a true judge and has patience and makes sure she is impartial. This crazy judge should not be a sitting judge with a hot temper and biased treatment like this.
@@Remmysage you’re wrong.
@@pastaisgood6681 lol straight and to the point. I like you. Lol
@@Remmysage : correct..love dorow. She was far more composed. This whacky Florida judge needs to check herself. She is unhinged.
U cant just appreciate the judges ,... why bring up their sex ? Lol judge judy would be dissapointed.
What’s exactly have they “endured”?!!!! Imagine having to endure a whole lifetime without your child,son or daughter.THAT’S enduring.How dare they say that.
That was incredibly narcissistic: clearly THAT attorney is character disordered.
They are talking about the fact that they were forced to defend him by this judge when he had plenty of inherited money from his mother passing away they are public defenders if you didn't know that they didn't want to take this case period this judge forced them
…and knowing their loved one died in terror.
Theyve been attacked for doing their job from the start people are treating the defense attorneys as if theyre the ones who did the crime.
@@Jupiter1423 oh exactly because like every other defense attorney they are supposed to fight for there clients lives that is what they have to do and however they have to do that if they have to bring up his past how he was a s a child whatever that is there job there is a defense team and a prosecution team for a reason these people want to blame that whole table for one of those defense attorneys conduct with sticking there middle finger up and laughing with Nicholas Cruz which again she was the only one who did it not the whole table yet they all are being blamed for it by the judge the families and the public and everyone knows it was only one person who did it and she wasn't present after that she probably got fired for it to be honest
By far the most unprofessional attorneys in a high profile case ever- they should be embarrassed and the attorney who flipped the bird belongs in jail for contempt.
They are public defenders i believe
@@ashleye6523 That makes sense- still there should be significant punishment for this, but not disbarring- that's too harsh. Maybe a significant fine - $10,000 or something like that, or maybe some time in jail.
They should be disbarred, they are a disgrace to all of the lawyers out there. I understand they are not the first and not the last ones to defend a murderer, but the way they have handled themselves throughout this whole trial was just… awful, to say the least.
@@karolina9435 A big fine and even serving some time makes sense, then they won't do it again- but taking away their whole career is too harsh.
@@ashleye6523 That has nothing to do with their behavior. They are accountable for their actions and expected to maintain their bearing at all times.
I love that side eye the judge gave towards the end. She can’t stand that lawyer, I can tell
That was brilliant! Spoke volumes 😄
The defense's behavior has been absolutely horrible, very unprofessional, and without capacity for empathy. Disgusting.
They are an absolute DISGRACE. Love this Judge. The fact that they wish to curtail what these victims and survivors have to say is appalling. They chose to represent a MONSTER they can suffer the consequences.
Absolutely.
they act horrible and yet they still won the case its fucking disgusting
Could never be a defence lawyer like everrr
@@FallenAngel53 these lawyers were appointed. they didn't have a choice. now their careers are dead.
Thank You to the Prosecution for standing up for the families and victims.
NEVER thank a lawyer. If they were on the opposing side, they would do EXACTLY the same. The needle on their moral compass is constantly spinning round.
@@johntomlinson6849 its their job what do u expect? if someone works at mcdonalds u think they wont get a job at wendys if they’re paying better?
@@D0VES0AP Not necessarily. I've seen some trials were the judge refused to let the victims speak freely and the prosecution just sat back quietly without fighting for the families
@@LuckyRob19 well whatever a judge says in the courtroom usually goes the only thing they really could do is file a motion but im not even sure if thats allowed for impact statements
@@johntomlinson6849 some lawyers won’t take a losing case
Did Melisa McNeil forget that Nicholas Cruz has already been found guilty and that this is the sentencing hearing? Where'd she go to law school, Darrell Brooks University?
“Darrell Brooks University” that’s a good one😂
Can we discuss the subject matter of "jurisdiction"? 🤣🤣
Actually, it was Acme University with Wild E. Coyote. 😁
The great seal of DBU three case file boxes on a scale of justice…
@@Thegoldenchild415 grauwns
I love the lady with the glasses from the prosecution, so elegant and well-spoken and she truly seems to care
She was mad. genuinely mad at what the defence was trying to do and at the way they had acted throughout the trial and finally had an opportunity to say something.
*Prosecution. 😆
"persecution" lol.
Very well spoken. You could tell she was upset and mad with the defense but held her composure and professionalism. She seems very loving amd caring but firm.
Not only well spoken and empathetic to the victims but she really showed her professionalism here, citing every source to back up what she was saying against the defence so they had no wiggle room to argue, she cornered them morally, legally and powerfully. She really showed off her legal chops here. What a powerhouse.
When the defence guy said that no one in this courtroom has had to endure what me and my team have had to endure. Even if he felt the parents did over step the mark at times by attacking his team personally you would think someone with an extensive education and years of experience would choose his words more carefully than playing the poor us card infront of these poor
families who’s lives have been forever
darkened by their clients actions.
They have behaved impeccably under massive amounts of emotion and stress.
Really amazing people . The judge is a lovely lady too from the bits I saw
I fully agree with everything you said, except for the remark about the parents 'overstepping the mark' by personally attacking the defense team. The TEAM has done nothing but try to insult the victims and families and the court by their heinous actions in defending their client. Yes, they have a mandate to defend their client to the best of their ability, but by their actions and words, THEY overstepped the mark.
@@TheJMPD so public defenders should do "just enough" to fight for you? really? you want that type of defence when your being appointed a defender? might as well have every individual plead guilty because even with the "defend to the best of thier ability" mandate that you suggest would make the entire legal system more a joke than it already is...
@@mikeymaiku Did you not read where I said that the defense team has a mandate to defend their client to the best of their ability?
You mention it, but I think that you fail to grasp the reality of the statement.
A defense attorney only has to place 'reasonable doubt' about their client's guilt in the minds of the jurors. That does NOT entitle them to ridicule, demean, or debase the victims, or their families.
@@TheJMPD too bad your feelings are hurt over this. The system is a joke and "calling for change" is some of the funniest one sided opinions ever in youtube conments
@@TheJMPD What a very, very silly thing for you to say. Problem is there are so many innocent people that go to jail defence attorneys are supposed to be FULL BIAS for their client and defend them TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. That is their job. Doesn't matter if they agree with their client or not. Imagine you were falsely accused, and your defence attorney is doing the bare minimum. Try using your brain for once.
Man, you begin to really become disgusted with lawyers and their theatrics!
Right up until the day you need one
@@gregsmith222 yup you are right!
@@gregsmith222 No, because getting defended by one of these clowns would be terrible.
WOW. The defense attorneys.. especially that “lady” is HORRIBLE
They put in the shittiest ppl cuz they knew it wouldn’t matter if he had the best lawyers in the world, he still shot and killed tons of children. He’s going away.
AMEN
She mentioned her kids threw the trial then gets pissed when a woman who lost her child to the monster defending mentions them . Don’t get me wrong I don’t think anyone kids from judge ,defence or state should been brought into this but you can’t bring your kids up threw the trial then cry foul when someone else does it .
Their careers will suffer. The public will not forget. This is the victim’s days and they should be muzzled.
She is despicable EVIL.
Let these people speak
They have been hurt enough
For people defending the defence team: We're not mad that they are doing their jobs - they have to defend him and that's fine. We are mad about their childish and insensitive behaviour towards the victims. Yes, you have to defend the indefensible but you do not have to laugh/joke around with him by throwing a middle finger up. You also don't have to be disrespectful and state "THESE people will never not be affected by this" while waving a hand at the victims of YOUR CLIENT (his guilt is not even in question on this; he's a proven and admitted mass murderer); do not look down your nose at his victims, do not try to minimise their loss and making yourself the bigger victims. At the end of the day, you get to go home and hug your kids while they do not. THAT is why people are mad at the defense.
I love how Judge Scherer handles these slime bags. Sickening attorneys. Unreal.
They are putting up this huge argument over a convicted killer, this is a sad situation.
A mass murderer, who also brags about killing animals and seeks out child porn: his expensive defense team was totally incapable of objectivity or decorum. DISGUSTING.
I thought the defense was asking that victim families target their speech towards the Cruz and not the defense attorneys and their children.
@@STasugx that’s what they are doing.
@@STasugx defense should definitely face scrutiny in impact statements, but not their families, that's completely wrong
That victims impact is in place for a reason!! If you had a loved one that was senselessly killed it helps in the healing process to address their killer
Victims' impact statements are opinions and not facts and they bias a jury.
It's Broward County (70% liberal). 🤷🏾♂️ It should have been death sentence (aggregators massively outweigh the mitigation), any fair person who look at the scale would have reached that conclusion. But the unanimous verdict requirement (new to Florida and the fact that Broward County is a very liberal county) made one dishonest woman get in the jury and ruin justice without fear or consideration of community's good.
I kept repeating my warning that the current law is not really the law the legislature wanted. It was forced on us, then we had an opportunity to change it and we missed that before the trial. 👉🏿 Before 2016, no unanimous decision was required for death sentences in Florida. The Florida Supreme Court initially erred by saying unanimity is required, before reversing it 2020. In between, the legislature amended the law to comply with the court ruling in 2016, but didn't restored the simple majority rule after 2020.
A judgement of death (even if not administered until some 15 years later) would have been a value judgement on what he did, unlike what happened here, where his life was worth more than all 17 victims. This is a killer who searched on google "good songs to hear while killing people" before he went to that school. And the mitigation case was thoroughly debunked. 👉🏿 If the awful juror was an anti death penalty hack, her dishonesty may know backfire and increases the death penalty verdicts after the legislature restore our simple majority rule.
I think it's wrong for the families to bring up defence's children, but they need to grow a thicker skin. The public don't understand their job. So what? Don't make yourself the focus on victim's day. Their client got off
@@HusseinDoha Why bring up their children? They should be angry at the murderer.
@@HusseinDoha actually, if people would try to understand things they don't understand, we'd all be well off. Their children don't deserve to be brought up or even threatened.
If the defense would have done their job to their best ability and professionalism, their character wouldn't be attacked.
"I know their family members were murdered by my client but could you please ask them to not make him feel bad?"
The parents were attacking the defense attorneys personally. They were appointed by the State to defend this kid.
@@perrymason4208 I love people like you that intentionally miss the point.
@@cigarettesandredlips Actually, they didn't miss the point. The Defense was asking for the victims to not attack them and their families. They were appointed, they are required to make a defense for this kid. I think you are the one missing the point.
@@hewster1 Exactly.
@@hewster1 defence attorney brought their children up quite few times threw the trial ( why? What had her children got do with anything ?) but when a family member does she doesn’t like it ?
God I love this judge. “Don’t tell me what I know…”
These defense lawyers are horrible horrible horrible!!! SHAME on each and EVERY ONE of them. Period
Sickening and appalling
They must be really happy driving their new Mercedes ....
They are very good-speak for yourself
@@KingoftheRoad-2023 Flipping off the judge and the victims families is the exact opposite of a good defense lawyer, thats how you earn yourself a civil lawsuit or a large fine.
@@apassionatenerd.3564 That was never an issue, because if the judge had tried to do something like that, then the judge's illegal actions would come to light as well.
It is absurd that convicted murderers are allowed to hide behind a face mask outside of medical necessity. The victims should have the right to face him directly in court.
Thats what your upset about? The mask?
Covid.
It may be COViD protocol to make sure he transfers to prison on time. I doubt the jail is going to miss him and don’t want anything to interfere with that transfer.
I agree!!it’s about facing accountability which he’s not being made to do!!
Seriously? You are stupid 🙄 I'm shocked that you are this stupid
That judge is the real deal for shutting that lady down
Someone needs to post a petition to remove those defense attorneys.
Screw the defence attorneys!!! They have been so incredibly disrespectful to all the families and judge! God forbid they ever have to go through what these families have had to endure. I hope their kids remain safe. Shame on them , oh and so now you are a caring parent????
This defense has sickened me this entire trial. I’m disgusted. Bravo to the STATE!👏🏻
Say it Judge "Bitch please" LOL
Man that judge is a 10 on all levels.
Stop sexually objectifying women. She is more than just a body.... She is an intelligent human being, a mother, and a friend to someone... Stop reducing her to just her looks and have some respect. Men have been trained to only view women as just something for them to look at and lust after and it's gotten old.
When she refers the conduct of the defense attorneys over to the attorney disciplinary board, then you have a 10 on all levels.
@@Face_Reality shut up
@@Face_Reality that was his point - “all” levels
@@Face_Reality What's old is women attacking men for existing. What's old is women thinking men are only into sex, and just for the sake of sex, at that (nothing relational). THAT'S what's old. Stop reducing men to hormones. We're not sexual robots. We're people, just like women are. We weren't "trained" for anything. We were born, like women were born. And so, we go through life experiences, like women go through life experiences.
Defending the indefensible. I'm so sorry the families had to go through this, it's like they're being punished twice. The defence lawyers are shocking.
Love this Prosecutor's response about who are the victims here.
The best "bye Felicia" ever. Way to go judge!
The defense attorney's behavior during this whole case has been appalling. I hope their careers and personal lives suffer a quarter as much as these victim's families have. They should be ashamed of themselves and I can tell you those who have watched them during these procedures find them all disgusting.
If they were defending you, you would want them to fight just as fiercely. If you've an ethics complaint, write to the ABA.
take it easy pal
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 I would not go round shooting innocent school kids , does that make sense too you !
they were appointed by the public defenders office. they had no choice but to do their jobs. now the judge is allowing the victim parents to name call them and their kids for doing their jobs. That is not ok.
If you dont want public defenders abolish the 6th ammendment and everything it conveys. And just have public lynchings.
Wow! What a messed up thing to say about someone. She was appointed to this case. She didn’t chose it.
I would’ve shut them down immediately when they said they don’t understand what they had to endure.
I lost my beloved brother to a physcho man who stabbed him to death!! My family and I had to endure through this pain and suffering in our hearts.
It is a pity no one has shut down those terrorist organisations - the NRA and the GOP.
I am so sorry. I lost my brother also. A very “well respected” man who owned the local bank crossed the double line at over 60 mph in a 40 mph zone and hit my brother head on and he was drunk! As I was racing towards the scene the officers told the man “you need to get out of here now” because he was intoxicated!!!! The judge, the lawyers, the police ALL covered up for this man! My family had to mortgage our home in order to pay the 12k for a funeral, casket and burial plot! The traffic officer who spent over a month recreating the scene and accident even said my brother was all the way on the other side of the road waiting to cross when he was hit at over 60 mph! We also had witnesses from the party he had just left who gave statement that they man was extremely intoxicated and they even offered to drive him home and the one threatened to take his keys!! The judge STILL threw out the case for vehicle homicide, manslaughter or unintentional manslaughter! It was disgusting and everyone locally knows it. Unfortunately being in a small county certain people get away with everything!
It destroyed my entire family
If you don’t mind talking about it, what happened to your brother? Did he know this man? What we’re the circumstances? I can’t imagine what you and your family went through and STILL continue to go through. It never goes away, We only find ways to deal with these untimely deaths of our loved ones. The anger, hatred and utter frustration and confusion is always below the surface for me. I pray you have been able to find some peace. Look forward to hearing back from you. Sending love
Love this judge. Defense out of line
Listening to the defense team is painful. They lost heart. This judge is outstanding.
This is a “dress down” of a lifetime rite there. Wow good for her. You can’t defend the indefensible. There is no defense for brutal murder.
I have never had such disdain for a defense team. Is there anyway the victims can report them to the FL bar for inappropriate behavior???
Would a letter work?
Kudos to the prosecuting attorney and the judge.
I'm still amazed that, that woman put up the middle finger towards the judge that day and laughed with the murderer about it
The Defense was fighting a losing case and going for a book deal
Technically the defense won the case. He had already plead guilty. They had to convince the jury not to sentence him to death and they did just that
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 they didn’t win - he wasn’t going to be sentenced to death bc of his age anyway. Plus they have been unprofessional and flipped off the court. Doubtful they will work again until hired by another mass shooter.
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 It's Broward County (70% liberal). 🤷🏾♂️ It should have been death sentence (aggregators massively outweigh the mitigation), any fair person who look at the scale would have reached that conclusion. But the unanimous verdict requirement (new to Florida and the fact that Broward County is a very liberal county) made one dishonest woman get in the jury and ruin justice without fear or consideration of community's good.
I kept repeating my warning that the current law is not really the law the legislature wanted. It was forced on us, then we had an opportunity to change it and we missed that before the trial. 👉🏿 Before 2016, no unanimous decision was required for death sentences in Florida. The Florida Supreme Court initially erred by saying unanimity is required, before reversing it 2020. In between, the legislature amended the law to comply with the court ruling in 2016, but didn't restored the simple majority rule after 2020.
A judgement of death (even if not administered until some 15 years later) would have been a value judgement on what he did, unlike what happened here, where his life was worth more than all 17 victims. This is a killer who searched on google "good songs to hear while killing people" before he went to that school. And the mitigation case was thoroughly debunked. 👉🏿 If the awful juror was an anti death penalty hack, her dishonesty may know backfire and increases the death penalty verdicts after the legislature restore our simple majority rule.
@@HusseinDoha Absolutely right. This sentence was a disgrace. That law is a disgrace. One fanatic liberal activist has the power to let this muss murderer escape the DP. So sad and frustrating. I hope karma exist. Some people deserve the worst. So sad for those family that they had to endure this stupid trial. If this monster didn't get DP, no point to have the DP available.
@@HusseinDoha hahahah.
As a parent it makes my blood boil this trial has lost focus. The parents are given orders and their pain suppressed and that evil piece of shit sits and enjoy every bit of attention.. I hope some one in jail dishes out karma. His parents should also suffer just like the victims families. Even more
His parents are dead.
@@Me-yq1fl See my comment above
Don't play with the judge. They can throw you out because they don't like the way you look.
Yes, and if the judge throws you out for doing your job they have given him grounds for an appeal.
@@josephhodges9819 Except thats not what is taking place here.
And that bastard is soaking up the attention of what he did and enjoying every second of it 🤬
This judge and the one from the Darrell Brooks case are two of the best I've ever seen. Also Penny Azcarate from the Depp-Heard trial. All three are legends.
WOW, just WOW! That defense team should have seen this coming
The mouthy Attorney has been a bitch all through this trial, she FLIPPED OFF THE COURT THE DAY HE HAD HIS VERDICT, THEY HAD IT COMING
Finally a judge with some testicular fortitude. This young lady should be given a freaking medal!!!
ovarian fortitude dude
Nah ovarian fortitude
Just say you think she is doing a good job Kenny...why do you make it about genitalia
Do not ever take the voice of victims away. Shameless defense, they’re a bunch of evildoers and trying to bend the law to suit them. They’re sickening and by defending this monster they showed their true colors and the wheel is turning… God bless the judge and the victims and the prosecutors!
This state attorney AND the learned judge deserves more recognition than they are getting.👏👏👏
I thought this was the end of this dude…. come on
These defense attorneys are despicable individuals, and it is not because they are representing a monster. The unprofessional conduct is beyond reprehensible! No one should hire these disgusting individuals!
..The JUDGE is an honour to the american UNJUST system.
Love this no nonsense Judge 💪
They don’t like being criticized. Well, then behave honorably and with integrity. They were called to task.
I like how this judge is not afraid of speaking up!!
What on earth are the Defence lawyers playing at?
Under what rock did they scrap these defense attorneys?
Public Defenders
@@GriggsC123 Melissa McNeill is one of the best defense attorneys in Florida, she's kept many people from the death penalty. She won the case here.
@Richard Schiffman Objection. Speculation, Foundation, Argumentative.
this case has killed these lawyers careers. that's what they're worried about. as soon as this case is done, they will be the most hated individuals in the nation and no one will ever hire them again.
Are you kidding? They've gotten multiple killers off from the death penalty. That is their specialty and the state pays them well to do it. Nobody but hysterical halfwits blame them for winning their case.
In broward county they will be the most hated! They better move lol because those families will despise them
@@nenej12 LOL, they have been the top defense for death penalty cases in Broward Cty for 20 years, they'll be fine. They're good at their jobs, and the families will get over hating the US Constitution. Most people are smart enough to not blame the defense for doing the job that they are paid to do.
The defense is just doing its job.
@@nellym.6555 How is giving the middle finger during a murder case "just doing its job"? I'm all for rigourous defense, but there's a line they crossed into inappropriate actions.
JUDGE: Look, we need to get this trial over with. I have one magazine cover after another to be photographed for.
WOW. That judge is SMOKIN'
I am as angry at his defense team at this point as him. They should spend some time in jail as well. Why the judge hasn't slapped them with contempt at this point escapes me.
Contempt for what? Doing their job and she doesn’t like it? She should not be a judge for getting mad at them for doing their job. She clearly shows bias here. Which judges CAN NOT do. They didn’t even have a choice but to represent him.
@@Remmysage What are you even talking about? They did have the liberty to not represent him. When lawyers get out of line, the judge calls them out on it; nothing new here.
@@lunesanglante They were appointed so no they did not have the choice of not representing him unless they quit their job.
@@josephhodges9819 So many people have such a fundamental misunderstanding of the justice system. The defense team HAD NO CHOICE. The fact that so many people don't understand what Public Defenders are, is astounding.
@@Remmysage these clips are so crazy one sided, they start with the defense team saying something which sounds "insensitive" then the prosecution says something which makes it sound further as though the defense is being improper then the bias judge forgets the law and pretends that they are being indecent. Welcome to the new way for broadcasting a trial to whittle away at the presumption of innocence and the dignity of every human being, even the contemptuous.
She got shut down Darrell Brooks Attorney at law Style !!!
Well done to the judge..yet again showing how good she is and taking no 💩 from the defence team..
Awesome work by this judge. Patient and calm throughout, but rightly put a stop to the defense shenanigans. All for a robust defense of all defendants, but well done by the judge throughout these proceedings from all that I’ve watched.
That judge is top top tier. That’s what I call an earned degree in the field
These lawyers are monsters...Karma...
Love this judge!
Bravo to this judge ❤
Thank God this judge stood her ground .
I applaud this judge. She is a fine human being.
Really fine ;)
I have great respect for how the families managed to not beat the shit out of the defense lawyers.
....YET....
How she hasn’t straight went off on them is astonishing, I been punching the screen everytime i see him or his defense attorney and the way that those assholes treat the judge and the victims
I can’t even understand why anyone would even wanna defend this guy the fact this case has even went this long is wild to me
They were appointed by the Court.
Everyone has a right to a lawyer under the constitution. Though I think their purpose really should be only to make sure his rights are not violated nothing more.
@@parley1994 what you think, fortunately, does not matter. They are REQUIRED to mount an aggressive defense. We are a nation of laws, and criminal justice depends on presumption of innocence.
Everyone here screaming about the defense might enjoy North Korea or Russia🙄
@@parley1994 the fact that people born in the US do not know this is down right pathetic
OMG THE JUDGE IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AMAZING 🥰🥰🥰
I know everyone has a right to a fair trial, but I cannot respect any attorney who defends a known murderer - it's crazy
I don't hire a lawyer often, but when I do I hire one that will make insinuations about the judge's capacity and fairness.
The defense attorney Ms Mcneal can't even stand to address the judge, how disrespectful. She objection to victims statements because she knows this will include addressing the defences' pathetic behaviours. Shameful
Unbelievable that there is no respect for the court
So the defense attorneys are the victims here? Amazing
They and the accused would rather not be there
Too many guns with un fettered access.
4:25, wow! The judge was having none of that.
Sincere overdue condolences to the families of the 17 angels who lost their lives on February 14 2018. Rest in peace. ☹💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
The lawyer didn't threaten your kids judge, u need to stop yelling.
Agreed. It’s ok for them to talk about his kids but the roles are reversed for even hypothetically thinning it she went offf!
It doesn't matter what the defense attorney's were or weren't saying or feeling.
In court you never, ever bring up anything about the Judge's personal business when it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
That lawyer knows better and went there anyway. He brought it down on himself.
Her response may have been over the top, but she had every right in Her Courtroom to slap him down.
This defense counsel has been running rip-shod over the court with it's actions and demeanor.
They are very lucky that the Judge hasn't yet found them in contempt.
They need to stop making a fuss over the victims statements, it's just highlighting how badly they have been conducting themselves.
It's not about them, it's about getting the defendant the best decision from the jury based on the facts.
The victim statements are not 'Facts" they are opinions that the law allows them to express.
These defense lawyers need to start acting like the professionals that they supposedly are meant to be.
@@David_B_Dornburg The judge allowed the defense's families to be threatened. That was a stupid thing for her to do because she will get a scolding for that.
@@David_B_Dornburg Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that doesn't give them the right to insult the defense's children. And the judge apparently didn't understand what was going on or didn't care.
The defense did there job! Rather we all like the decision of the jury. The court system requires a defense in a trail. Well! The scriptures say the eye of a needle a lawyer getting into heaven. I am for the death penalty! I also believe God has his hand in everything. Perhaps the ultimate test is this-We trust his justice. We put the final verdict in his ✋. His knows all things! My hope is the families' receive comfort from our creator.
I swear, murderers shouldn't be able to have attorneys. How attorneys can even defend a murderer
Are the defence attorneys really claiming to be victims here? They’re in a courtroom full off families who lost the children and love ones at the hands of their vile client!
I LOVE this judge!
I am astounded as to how anyone would voluntarily take this case.
I wonder who's in charge of messing up his hair before each court appearance?
I really feel for Public Defenders... Its a lose lose situation in most cases and its rare to have good ones and most public defenders are failed private practice attorneys but there is a difference between doing your duty to our constitution and just being horrible people. Playing the victim card in a room full of grieving parents, family and friends is the low of lows along with trying to stop those victims from confronting the murderer.
I love this Judge she is absolutely fantastic.
🧊
It is amazing how lawyers can be so disrespectful without morals nd act in such a disgusting manner without retribution.
Hope these low life scum bags get barred for professional misconduct or alienated from their chosen profession so they never work again.
How can you speak on the behalf’s of such a cruel evil human being,imagine the pain for the rest of your life having to live without your son or daughter that’s what is enduring
This poor judge
The jury has been dismissed. These victim statements should be wide open. It won't change anything in the sentencing but gives them the last say, completely appropriate. The defence rested more then a week ago. They should be very limited in any further input, if any. To achieve what?
However and not a pass, the defence has no case on anything so they will try anything, even step outside legal ethics fundamentals.
One of the victim speakers threatened the defense attorneys' families. That isn't acceptable.
@@annabellelee4535 when? state time on video.
@@MrBonners Watch it for yourself.
@@annabellelee4535 so you got nothing to backup your bs claim.
@@MrBonners The pro-killer troll saw nothing because it never happened.
I still don't understand why he had a gazzilion attorneys--
The defense team should of left their feelings at home. 🏡
This judge could learn a lot from judge Jennifer Dorow
How did this kid get so many lawyers?
Incompetent and power trip judge. Didnt conduxt heraelf with the dignity of a judge. This is what happens when unworthy people geta power. She turned it into like a cat fight. She had to resign before the commission could take action.
They still took action at the state supreme court level and she will never work in a courtroom again.
context matters people.
The defense isnt defending Cruz from the victims namecalling. They're defending themselves from the namecalling from the victim's family members. It's disgusting that the judge is allowing that. Nikolas Cruz is a piece of shit, no one is defending that and that's ok. But getting in with the defense team kids is fucked up. This got ugly and it is all on the judge
What’s disgusting is the defense attorneys laughing and putting up the middle finger during the course of this trial. Their actions have warranted whatever response they have gotten.
So you think it’s ok for them to wish death upon their children and you also wish death upon their children cause your perception of them is they don’t respect the court. You should re evaluate yourself if you think that way!
Sorry but once the defense attorney, not Cruz, flipped off the court and victims, they are fair game. I can't believe all you people defending them just happen to leave that part out.
Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that does not give them the right to insult the defense's children. They have nothing to do with the case. For doing your job you would like them to insult your children.
they should be stopped from attacking our children. meanwhile, lives are lost. These defence attys playing 'victim' is disgusting.
Their children should not be brought into it when they’re just doing their job and protecting everyone’s 6th amendment constitutional right, including yours. Their children shouldn’t be subject to hate cause their job was to defend a guy who killed others kids. They shouldn’t be having the parents of the murdered go after their children cause they did their job. Just cause their kids were murdered (which is a horrible thing) doesn’t give them grounds to say anything about their children for simply doing their job.
Parents have no reason to insult the defense. The defense is just doing their job, these people are frustrated, but that does not give them the right to insult the defense's children. They have nothing to do with the case. For doing your job you would like them to insult your children.
The Judge out of control
That lawyer knows that you never bring up a Judges Personal business when it has nothing to do with the case.
He went there anyway.
This judge is a clown, too emotional and way below the class of thousands of other judges who act accordingly. Her behavior is shameful.
Wouldn't want to hurt a killer's feelings.
No shit eh? Like he has any feelings to hurt anyway.