Why TYPE O NEGATIVE & PETER STEELE STRUGGLED with SUCCESS (Bloody Kisses)
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- the story of Type O Negative's breakout album Bloody Kisses and the band's struggles with fame
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The band Type O Negative would mix themes of romance, drugs, depression, and death and would be credited as bringing goth rock to the masses Their third record Bloddy kisses would be their commercial break through and the biggest album of their career. It also made them the biggest band on the then fledging label roadrunner records In today’s video let’s take a look at the history of bloody kisses.
Type O Negative frontman and bassist Peter Steele would be the youngest of six children, raised in a strick catholic household in brookly new york. He would consider himself a burden to his parents He would remark to the dayton daily news that he was taught that everything normal was evil. As he grew up, he distanced himself from religion calling himself a born again pagan. As for his musical influences, he would grow up idolizing the beatles and black sabbath remarking to the associated press “i’ve always loved the beatles. I’ve always loved b lack sabbath. I like the heaviness mixed with a good strong melody.”
As Steele got older he would branch out to like a wider range of bands telling the LA Times he was a fan of droning and, dreamy sounds citing bands like the Cocteau Twins, My Bloody Valentine and Dead Can Dance. . ..
A lot of Type O Negative’s music was written from Steele’s point of view growing up as he didn’t have a lot of luck with woman, was emotionally fragile and vulnerable to demons with the imposing frontman telling the LA Times in 1997
“I have gotten my heart broken so many times that I’ve lost count,” “Any time I’ve been involved with someone I’ve cared about, I’ve suffocated them by caring too much. That’s probably why I lost them.”
The imposing Steele would stand 6foot 8 inches tall and weighed t250 pounds with his deep baritone voice, He would refer to himself as the ideal frankenstein but interviewers would describe him as soft spoken, guarded and polite. However, his opinion of himself was pretty low with him referring to himself in interviews as a monster, a psychopath and social expletive.
Steele would tell tbe associated press Some people mistake kindness for stupidity and so now that I’m a scumbag to people I get automatic respect. It’s a very sad place that we live in that the only way to get what you want is by instilling fear into people.” He would remark to howard stern that at one point he was a flower delivery guy and he kept delivering flowers to one women who refused to tip him, so he urinated in the flowers.
It was during the late 70’s Steele played in band’s like Hot Ice and Northern Lights. By 1979 he would play in the band Fallout with future Type O Negative keyboardist Josh Silver. But the heavier sounds of punk which were popular for a few years was being replaced with disco and new wave and Fallout would split. Silver and Steele would part musically with Silver founding the new wave group original sin while Steele would start up the metal group Carnivore. Carnivore would sign to a small label named Roadrunner records who put out a handful of albums before they fell apart. .
Following Carnivore, Steele was initially focused on working for the municipal government, trying to become a cop but life had other things in mind. Future type o negative drummer Sal Abruscato who had worked with Steele at a blacksmith shop heard about Carnivore’s breakup and went over to talk to his friend about working on some new music telling loudersound His father answered the door and let me down, and there’s Peter sitting in bed watching TV, having just cut all his hair off! He had just took the New York Police Department test; he didn’t want to play music anymore. I asked if he wanted to hang out and jam, have some fun. He nods, saying he’s always wanted to have a band with electronica - keyboards, samples and things like that. I’m like, ‘Yeah, cool man!’ just saying anything so I could play with the guy!”
Steele would reconnect with longtime friend Josh Silver and add guitarist Kenny Hickey. Their new outfit would go through several monickers for their new o
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Eyehategod!!!
The Wildhearts!
Skatenigs!!
I would love to see one about John Mayer!
Joy Division! My favorite ❤
rip peter. you were anything but average.
In more ways than one am I right 😆rip Pete 🖤🌹
I met Peter in 1991 in Cincinnati. They were the opening act for The Exploited and Biohazard and sadly they were booed off stage after only two songs. Some people thought they were racist because of some symbols they had on their gear. Anyway, Peter was soft spoken and humble and a real sweetheart and I felt awful about how the crowd treated them.
That would have been at Bogarts over on Short Vine possibly? Either way, three awesome bands, Exploited are legends. I'd kill to see that show
Nobody was saying TON or peter were racist back then. We weren't obsessed with racism back then like all these idiots are now. So thats a bunch of crap or just how you felt.
Was this part of the racism claims the narrator discussed in the video or was it just something the fans saw on the equipment and then said something when they took the stage.
I saw them open for Ozzy in 95. I didn’t know how much of a treat that was until this video.
Truly one of a kind. RIP Peter!
I saw them and supultura open for ozzy on the no more tears tour
Me too. Osmosis tour
I love their version of Summer Breeze. It's so musically creative. Awesome! 🤘
Their version of Paranoid is awesome. It’s more like a black sabbath medley, but still totally rocking.
They did cinnamon girl and daytripper too, which are likewise awesome
There's an amazing Santana cover medley you can find on YT also... I think it's from an old video release
@@irairairuuhhh I like that cover too. I love how they threw in the Ironman riff
Better than the original! 😊😍👍🏻💯
When Slow, Deep, and Hard came out, Roadrunner was still called Roadracer
Carnivore was way better
@@richthompson2937 No they weren't
@@symbologee you’re opinion
@@richthompson2937 I like both
Right before Peter passed away, he played a few shows with carnivore. The opening band on one of those gigs was The Banner, a phenomenal NJ hardcore band, my buddy Garret is the original guitarist and said back stage while Peter Steele was getting ready he was drinking wine and hitting this oxygen mask and says to him "HEY!, I really like your band, thank you for opening this gig right tonight!" What a great and down to earth human being! RIP Green Man!
Still listen to these Guys weekly
Rip Peter so glad I got to see them in concert!!💚💚💚💚💚
I did too on october rust.
Me too. The Ritz In NY and Studio 1 Newark Nj w Biohazard. Awesome shows
Agreed. Me too
They are my second favorite group of all time. But from footage I've seen, their music sounded terrible live lol.
@@goldentaco4970 🤣😀👍
God I miss these guys so much. Not even sure what it is about them, but their sound is just so unique, strangely beautiful, and timeless.
Edit: just finished the video. Really glad I subscribed! Great work up on these guys. Learned much I hadn’t already known!
Great band
I went backstage in louisville ky at a show and he had a panic attack or something. He bolted out the door they said he was having probs. Rest in peace Peter Steele.
He suffered from stage fright badly, that's why he would get drunk before gigs.
The king of goth metal 👑
Rest in Peace Peter Steel.....you was my first concert 🤘🤘🤘
Love them! Thank you for sharing this story! R.I.P. Peter! 🙏🏻💔🤘🏻
Type O has gotten me through so many years, when I got the old B&W Nosferatu movie with them on the background score it was a great day. So many great songs, wolf moon will always stand out
That Nosferatu DVD was how I discovered them, too! The video for ‘Black No. 1’ that was included on the DVD made me go out and get the album, and I’ve been a fan since.
There was an interview done way back when one of the band members was asked why Steele changed his music and image from what it was during his Carnivore years (my favorite) to what it became for Type-) negative and his response was "For pu**y". He said that the women, especially the Goth chicks that Steele was so fond of, loved his Type-O Neg persona and it was definitely a motivation.
There is an article on SongFacts under Black No. 1 (Little Miss Scare All) that talks bout this and has a lot of good info. I would attach a link but links seem to kill comments here. Good stuff though....
This wouldn't surprise me, around 93/94 just about every goth girl breathing was worshipping the guy.
@@TheTennesseeFistMachine True that.
goth girls could walk a mile back then. amazing days
@@lomemarsupial goth girls now will cringe at Peter when they found out he's a capitalist, loved muscle cars and motor cycles and not electric cars lol.
RIP Lord Petrus
I saw them open for Pantera a few times and would later on really appreciate their material especially the first 3 albums and the Carnivore records as well!
I love the first 3 but October Rust is my all time favorite
@@wolfcreeksparx5650 I should give it another go it’s been awhile since I heard it
@@wolfcreeksparx5650 same here but i really like World Coming Down as well. Peter was so damned Depressed and lonely all the time after everyone in his family just kept dying around him and said he didnt know what to do. I think thats why he started to feel religious again because he wanted to know he would see them again in the afterlife.
RIP peter. Type 0 was just a great band
They were a different band t that time! R.I.P. Peter Steele!!
A Kittie video and now Type O Negative?! 🎉 Bravo Sid! Long live Type O Negative 🐺💚🖤💚🐺
Saw them on the Ozzfest tour, i think in '97, and wasn't a big fan going in. My friends and I were a bit of a "metal purist" crowd back then🙄. I was far less aware of the music than the image, because that's where most of the focus seemed to be, but hearing them play made me a fan. The songs were heavy, and powerful, but had great melodies mixed in. The punk influences showing up in the drum lines, and the absolutely crushing guitar tone, were especially appealing. Still worth listening to these days!
Black No 1 was the song that made me a fan back in the day
In my opinion Peter Steele was the ultimate frontman its such a shame he had such a low opinion of himself I wonder if Peter Steele ever realized his songwriting and music that he and the rest of type o negative was put out was helping people that had similar problems with relationships and life itself R.I.P Peter Steele you left us way too soon my hope is in your departure from this world you found the peace and solace that you were always searching for
Anything TON is an instant thumbs up. October Rust and Life is Killing Me are some of my favorite albums. Nice job on the video 👍
"October Rust" is one of my all time favorite records. "Haunted" is such a beautiful song. back in the day, i had a tradition of eating weird fungus, turning out the lights, and lying down just letting that album melt me into the couch. RIP Pete. He was a good dude, albeit an edgelord. His sense of humor was incredible. A true legend. ❤
He didn't want success. He would have much preferred to have stayed working for the city parks dept and just making music for himself. Success killed him. We miss you so much Petros.
Geeze that was a fast ending. One second we r talking about bloody kisses then the next thing I know he died and it's all over wtf lol
Its typical here.
My hero. My youngest is named Peter Thomas for that very reason.💚🖤💚🖤💚🖤💚
I love TO- so much. Just watched Punk Rock MBAs video on them yesterday.
My first concert ever was type o with cradle of filth
October Rust was my favorite album.
My too
I've seen Type O at L'amours of times couple of times in the the earlt 90's. I remember one specific show that was on New Years and the crowd started throwing toilet paper everwhere, even at the band. I felt so bad for Pete. He looked very annoyed and sad
My favorite band. Long live Type O🙏
OMG! Blood & Fire was amazing.
I started listening to type o negative again and I love their sound
Genuinely one of my favorite albums.
I met thr band on their last 2010 Halloween tour by forgetting my ID. So I had to go into the under 21 door and get the Xs. This was directly next to the nerch booth and rather than going to the other entrance and waiting on my friends I bought a shirt.
I'm not sure if they did this for every show or just the one I was at but there were no VIP tickets I was aware of. What they did was give the first 50 people to buy merch a note card 1-50 which got you backstage to meet the band at the venue.
Type O has meant so much to me throughout my life amd I told Peter as much and said "Thank you for keeping it up all these years". To which one of the greatest moments of my life, genuinely, happened. Peter Steele made a dick joke to my sincere bumbling story about what the band meant to me by saying "I am having trouble keeping it up these days but that's a story for later".
Not in a mean or shitty dismissive way, but in a way to acknowledge what I said and to make a joke/moment for me in a very warm and genuine way.
I will never forget it and it genuinely makes my eyes misty.
Such a good human being and a good dude. Man I will forever be bummed I won't get to see them again.
That was my first Type O show and I'm so glad I braved a snowstorm with Mt friend to see them.
This was the 2010 PA Allentown show fyi.
Thanks for putting out so much Type O Negative stories, I've noticed you've shown then a lot of love over the Yeats and I will always watch any video in its entirety about my boys Type O!
Thanks for all you do to keep the legacy alive for a new generation!
Are we dancing around the secret behind that album cover for Slow Deep & Hard? Way more controversial than Bloody Kisses, that's for sure
And no mention of the original Origin of the Feces album cover either.
@@maverick_trail True, but he actually shows the SD&H cover here multiple times.
😂
🤫 I'm sure the yt algos would strike this video down if he dared mention the album covers controversies 😑
Saw this uploaded 4 seconds ago…
5 mins for me 🎉
One of the greatest bands ever. 💜
I would have figured "October Rust" would be their best-selling album. I'm not a big goth-rock fan, but I love that album.
You should do a history on Fear Factory, there's some drama there.
I'm a huge Type O'Negative fan!
So glad I got to see them twice. Once with Queensrÿche and once with Ozzy. 🤘💀🤘
R.I.P. Peter Steele
RIP Peter.
I like the collaboration they did with Ozzy, Pictures of Matchstick Men. That's an awesome track.
The moment I saw "Never mistake lack of talent for genius" on their album liner, I was in love.
carnivore is pretty sick too
Definitely, it is one of my all time favorite bands and "Retaliation" one of my absolute fav albums. The short guitar solo at the 3:52 mark on "Ground Zero Brooklyn" is my all time favorite from any band and any guitarist.
Steele is saying: "We'll fight this war with germs and atoms, destroy our only hope, Our mutated decedents battle next with sticks and stones, F**K!" and them comes that glorious solo... Good Stuff!
@@vanhattfield8292I always thought he was yelling "Mark!" Cueing his solo
Bless his heart. xxx
I dig their cover of summer breeze. Try and find it...
it's on I know what you did last summer soundtrack! it's a really good st.l7 covered summer of love by b.o.c and lot of cool covers
Both the live and studio version are found right here on youtube. Just search "type o negative summer breeze" and what you seek will be yours. 😋
Thank you for sharing. This is one of those underrated bands that need more spotlight.
Peter’s struggles were a loss to the music community.
I have another story on them up today on my second channel
Type O is my second favorite group of all time! I can name favorite songs off each studio album. I considered Christian Woman my favorite song of all time at one point. I first saw them on Headbangers Ball, Black No. 1, in 1992 or 93. I was about 13. I didnt know he tried to be a cop. Lol. R.I.P. Peter!!!! 💚🟢🧟♂️🍁
My friend and I got to see Type O in concert they were doing for Halloween..great frigging night!!! Love them, miss Pete too!!! Wish we had more time with him...he was so funny in his own way, you would never thought that he always thought low of himself. I think he just wanted a simple life that he felt he could never achieve... he was wonderful and talented m..he's missed!
To this day, I still love and blast their music and it's crazy they didn't like Blood & Fire..it's one of my favorite songs!
Saw them with Ozzy when i was a teen near the front......the man was an absolute presence on stage
"i know you F ing someone else" my favorite.
October Rust has even been considered Progressive Rock and i completely agree with songs like In Praise Of Bacchus and Burnt Flowers Fallen
I was a huge fan in my teens.
Please do more Type O Negative videos they're my favorite band.
Love Type-O! I'm so glad I got to see them live in 2008.
I saw them in Ashland Kentucky of all places. Freaking awesome show. Glad I got to see them live
My first experience with this band was at a Halloween night show where they opened for Megadeth. I've been a fan ever since. It's true, though, that you can't think of Steele of ToN without thinking of the color green. lol
Hell, yeah. I've been on a big Type O kick, lately. Seriously one of the greatest bands of all time.
What a man, and what a band!
One of the rare bands that doesn’t have a bad album in their catalog
The first time they played in my area (I live in Albany, New York), they played at the South Troy Community Center! Lol...next show was at an actual club...
Anyone with a working brain could tell that almost everything they ever did was heavily tongue in cheek.
Despite what the description says, towards the end of Peter's life, he re-connected with his Catholic faith. He mentioned it a few times in interviews and said that it was very important to him.
That's in the other interview, Pete says it himself. 💚
*eats popcorn*
I saw them open for Pantera on the Far Beyond Driven tour, Queensrÿche on the Promised Land tour, and one time with just them. They were supposed to open for Mötley Crüe with John Corabi, but they left the tour for some reason, and Gilby Clark from GnR opened instead.
I met Peter years ago at a small club in PA .
Sea Sea's?
Type O will always be one of my favorite bands of all time, and their sound is absolutely timeless. One of my essential influences as a singer and lyricist!
Awe Pete and his 🐈 cat..... I can identify!! RIP Perterus Steele1💚💚💚
I recall going to a show in '95 or '96 (can't recall... stay away from drugs kids) with Pantera opening for Type O, and everyone thinks I'm remember that backwards.
I still have the ticket and occasionally have to SMS a photo of said ticket to prove it. I wish I remember the show, but if not for the ticket and the deviated septum from colliding with a bouncer, there isn't enough in my head to prove I was ever there.
When I say "stay away from drugs kids," I mean that, sincerely.
They toured together in 1994-1995 and Pantera definitely opened for Type-O Neg when they played together in Tampa, Florida in January of 1995.
Pantera opened with this set:
Paranoid
Strength Beyond Strength
5 Minutes Alone
A New Level
Walk
Use My Third Arm
Domination
Primal Concrete Sledge
Mouth for War
Fucking Hostile
This Love
I'm Broken
Planet Caravan
Cowboys From Hell
And Type O Negative closed it out with this:
Kill All the White People
Christian Woman
Are You Afraid
Gravitational Constant: G = 6.67 × 10⁻⁸ cm⁻³ gm⁻¹ sec⁻²
Prelude to Agony
Summer Breeze
Too Late: Frozen
Black No. 1 (Little Miss Scare-All)
Good stuff!
I could see Pantera opening for Type O, but in 96? They were pretty much on top of world then, this would genuinely surprise me.
@@TheTennesseeFistMachine They didn't tour together in '96, they toured in 94-95. In 1996 Pantera toured with White Zombie and did some shows without a big name opener. Type-O Negative toured with Ozzy and Sepultura the first half of the year and did a lot of multi band festivals over the summer and closed out the year playing mostly with Manhole and Life of Agony.
They reconnected in June of 1997 in Ozzfest up until July.
I seen Pantera at Memorial Hall in Kansas City, KS on 1996 and I don't remember them having someone open for them. GREAT show...
@@vanhattfield8292If it was at Tampa fairgrounds , I was there also .
I actually literally bumped into him; after their set & during Danzig; after I had gotten my shirt: I apologized for bump & didn't realize that it was him, until I heard "Great shirt dude"
💚🖤RIP PETER
Great video.
Just listened too Bloody kisses the other day its always been my favourite Type O record
That’s a good interview.. I remember that one @ 05:05
as usual...good video.
Love them.
No relation btw.
So grateful I got to see them in 1996. It was magical. Met them briefly before the show. Groovy guys.
I remember when I would go to their early shows that many times there was people outside protesting the shows. When people would give me flyers about why Type O/Carnivore was so wrong would question the person if they ever heard S.O.D. and other east coast bands that had not so much politicly incorrect humor to their lyrics. Here on the west coast people seemed to take such things so seriously I guess because of the hippy movement.
If I made $800 a week I wouldn't want to tour either.
Love this band!
Peter was walking dichotomy and there was something ethereal about him. We lost him too early 😭
I didn't know Josh Silver is Jewish
What's crazy is that after Steele died, he became a paramedic and is still doing that to this day as a member of the New York City Fire Department.
Silver is a well known Jewish surname.
I was lucking to see them twice. It was fun to see the punk rockers come with their mohawks combed down and wearing black trying to fit in lol. RIP Pete.
Road Runner records are not small.
They were, genius
Love Carnivore
💚🖤
SUCH a Great piece of "sonic diarrhea" ❤🌞👌
Most underrated band
The story I remember as a kid is that they had all the merch made for Sub-Zero, and then found out they couldn't use the name, so they had to find a name that could use a circle with a negative symbol as a logo. No clue if it was true, but that's what I heard about their name.
"How could anyone possibly incorporate the influence of both The Beatles and Black Sabbath in any meaningful way into their own music",said no one who's ever listened to Type O Negative.
Nathan Explosion
We are all still wondering if Josh ever shat. 😂😂
I wrote a song for Peter called "Your Peter Steele" on UA-cam
I remember all the goth gals had the Playgirl issue with him naked..
and probably some dudes too
R.I.P 🤟 I love Type O Negative but it was not love ad first side. Later in life after a few years of pain and drugs use plus see nothing in life .
Type O rules.
.....
That is all.
I had a friend in the mid 90s whose father thought he was gay and despised him. Then he put up a full sized poster of Bloody Kisses, things changed after that.
fvk the media he was a great person and even if lots of ppl don't think that i do cuz i kinda understand what he means sometimes and how he thinks not like i agree with everything he say but i don't see any problem and tbh most of the thing he said is to bring attention for the band so yeah