They are right. Bush era Anthrax was a completely different band. SOWN is still one of my all time favourite albums. John Bush’s vocals are just sublime.
I saw them on the We've Come For You All tour. I've seen Anthrax several times, but that show with Bush was better than all the rest by miles. They absolutely killed it that show.
You can tell from watching all these docs that Joey was always a bit of an outsider in the band. It sounds like he was a more mainstream Hard Rocker guy but then ended up in a Thrash band. AND it was an amazing combination.
Yeah, he came from a much more mainstream hard rock background. And he was almost a session singer - he never contributed anything to the songwriting, lyrically or musically.
I do get the feeling that he's a hired voice. I had the live vhs video back in the late eighties and I thought it then with some of the outclips they included.
plus it was TOTALLY PERSONAL: the other four RESENTED JOEY at every moment, b/c he was TOO POPPY and it made many metal fans mock Anthrax, so they wanted to be SUPER-HEAVY.... but joey's too melodic... PLUS....JOEY IS A DORK, even when onstage and the band wanted someone more COOL. Plus, Joey's voice COULD NOT HAVE SAVED THE SHIT SONGS on the Bush-era records.
@@paulsmusic861 He was 4 or 5 years older than the other guys when he joined as well, and not hip on thrash or hardcore punk. They basically had to teach him how to paint-by-numbers. Joey was a classic hard rock/metal cover band singer - John Bush was a natural frontman.
@@dumpygoodness4086 You were right about everything except your last statement - Sound Of White Noise has some of the material that Anthrax has ever written. Stomp 442 was mediocre, but Volume 8 was pretty good, although not as good as SOWN. Haven't listened to We've Come For You All much, but it sounded good from what I've heard.
Joey once again a King amongst Men. He's the most Down too Earth, Thankful and Gracious I have ever seen in a World Wide band I believe. There is No Me with Joey it's always Us and Team. Respect.
I met Joey at a solo show in Newark DE in either 2010 or 2011 and he was the nicest and easiest guy to talk to. I actually had to end the conversation because I noticed there was a line of fans behind me waiting and I didn’t want to hold them up. We talked for a good ten minutes and the show after was great. A fun night.
And Scott Ian pretty much Sh*t on him wanting to sound all heavy like Pantera or something. He should've thought that the fella sings Journey cover tunes before picking him for the singer of a metal band. It wasn't Joey's fault as Scott allready knew for 10 yrs what kind of a singer Joey was. He blamed Joey for Anthrax not being bigger. Should've stuck with Joey. Joey is such an Awesome Dude always loving what he did as well as always loving being in Anthrax. Same with the first singer. I thought he was great for Anthrax as well as that first album they did was Killer, but he had to blame everything on him as well. I wished they would've stuck to the first album sound.
@@johnhareiel5118 Agreed..if we watch the first Big 4 gig in Sofia we can see that Joey is the most charismatic and energised frontmen. His attitude is graceful plus recent albums have demonstrate just how good Joey's voice is now like fine wine.👍🏽
@@salamwati9281 Agreed, and yet you also watch that same video.....or should I say the backstage footage on you tube where its footage of Joey before the show, it's of him getting a drink, hanging around, etc, and the other guys pretty much treat him like some coworker. They ain't buddies with him backstage. He kind of looks left out. I think that's BS! I was in Anthrax I'd be backstage going wild with him like some Teenager Besties. I think Scott treated him like sone sh*t, but then begged him to come back cause of Anthrax not being able to do Sofia without him. I would've been backstage by him living it up like we gonna conquer the world together and Anthrax seem to just treat him like some coworker that gotta be around.......and me over here like I'd love getting to hang with Joey a full day man! He's a Native American, like I am partially. I'd love to float the river all day with the dude in a conoe at the river by my house, sipping beer out the ice chest, and talking to him about music, life too. Just a super cool dude, and Anthrax act like it's a chore to be around him
Never understood the 'fan' competition between Joey and John. Both are excellent. Circumstances aside, they both contributed to amazing records. SOWN, Stomp, Vol. 8 and WCFYA are terrific. SOWN is one of the great metal records of the 90s. And the cover of Ball of Confusion with John and Joey is ridiculously good and works on every level.
fun fact: EVERYTHING IS WEIRD. EVERYTHING IS INSANE. ex: The sun is a zillion NUCLEAR BOMBS GOING OFF OVER AND OVER without running out of fuel?? ex: my JIZZ can create a HUMAN BEING??? ex: I can take a photo of my dick and send it thru space and time across the globe? EVERYTHING IS CRAZY!
Anthrax is the one metal band where I want two vocalists. I want John Bush and Joey Belladonna together! Their vocal ranges are different, so they could harmonize well. And then having back and forth vocal lines between them would be amazing!
Admit it, by 1991-92 the music world changed. Underground/ Alternative Rock (aka Grunge) exploded & a new revolution in music was happening. Anthrax wanted to blend in with times, so it was "out with the old 80's singer & in with a new modern Vedder, Staley or Cornell like frontman". (there i said it 'cause they won't)
The lukewarm reception and begrudging respect from everyone in this video kills me. I'm with the commenters here. My first Anthrax album was Attack Of the Killer Bs. If it weren't for SOWN, I'd have forgotten them as a novelty metal band. I know nobody's ever gonna see this. Nobody's ever gonna read it... but this album is so fundamental to who I am. I lucked into a promo giveaway CD of this band covering Cowboy Song from some Canadian record store promo during this album's promotional cycle when I was a kid... and learned all about Thin Lizzy. I had multiple copies of this album die when we used to cram CDs into visor wallets in our cars Back in the Day. What'd I do? I bought another. When I committed to digital music, and kept 10 CDs, SOWN was right there with my Thelonius Monk CDs. I learned about so much music. I found things I still live by today- If you say it mean it, if you mean it do it- Action is the air you breathe is a GODDAMNED TRUTH in my life to this day. I was 15 in '93. I'm forty-mumble today. It took me a long while to realize that Invisible spoke to both people I knew, and people on a grand scale... but the lesson was there early. Albums are time-and-place, I get this. This was quite possibly my one critical album in that regard, and I get that it wasn't that for a lot of people... but man. as albums that deserve better than resting in Potter's Field, loved by few, forgotten by many go? This heads that list for me. Call it the best Armored Saint album, or not the Anthrax you loved. Everyone accepts it was something different than what they expected... and to me that's the best part of it. I found Persistence of Time because of this album- NOT the other way around. Among the Living taught me about Judge Dredd AFTER I loved SOWN. I didn't even know how to be Metal Thrashin' Mad behind the wheel until after I'd spent an entire summer with this album on loop driving around! Im glad I have something special to me... but man, it's like expecting a girl to love a movie because you grew up with it. It kills me that nobody seems to get it.
The Sound of White Noise...is legendary. It was a slap in the face. It woke us up. John Bush was a great fit. Danny quitting after this, is what hurt the most.
John Bush is what got me into Anthrax, the music kept me with them...not too fazed about Joey..he's ok...but Bush...the man's voice is gold. The fact that 2 of the big four wanted him as their vocalist speaks volumes.
There were no awkward moments. Fucking Bushthrax was some of the best fucking Anthrax. EVER. Scott's writing and John's vocals... MASSIVE! I love Joey, and there would be no Anthrax of our youth or today, without him, but John's era was phenomenal, through and through. The energy. The edge. The fucking delivery, man... I'm currently driving 5 hours one-way for work and Bushthrax carries me there and back. Thank you Anthrax and thank you John Bush for giving me more than I ever could return. I love you guys. And we get John with Anthrax and Armored Saint is FORFUCKINGEVER. And yes, we love you too, Joey.
I've been an Anthrax fan since Among the living... And I know this isn't going to be popular, but its just true... Sound of White Noise is my favorite Anthrax Album. Nothing personal against Joey Belladonna, I love Joey... But the truth is that album just would NOT have been what it was with Joey singing on it... John Bush is amazing on that record... and it gave BRAND NEW LIFE to the band in my opinion. I love everything they've done since Joey's back in the band, and I'm glad to have him back.. but I wouldn't trade Sound of white noise for every other album they ever made put together. I just think it's got the perfect mix of drive, groove, power, and Johns Vocal just fits it like a glove... Its very close to how I see the 94 Motley Crue album... This is the thrash metal version of that for me lol.
This album was my intro to Anthrax. Still remember my friend bringing it over to my house and playing it for me. I love the John era of Anthrax (as well as all of Joey's runs with the band) and the band did what they needed to do to stay alive and thrive in those changing times.
Me too man! Great album! I still listen to it all the time. It has stood the test of time. And I'll continue to listen to this album. I love both versions of Anthrax.
I came onboard with Spreading and stopped listening after this album dropped. I had it and liked it, and saw them tour for it but it just didn't grab me. I rejoined with Worship and I can truly say that for me Anthrax is Joey.
@@derekgilbert1752 we ALL wanted to LOVE Bush in ANthrax, dude. ON PAPER it sounds fucking INCREDIBLE! (I hate MOST metal singers cuz they are generic, but John Bush was better and more distinctive than 90% of metal singers....) BUT THE SONGS WERE LAZY AND CRAPPY (nevermind they wanted to copycat on grunge) (had the SONGS BEEN GREAT, with great riffs and vocal melodies.... NONE OF US WOULD CARE they "sold out", see?) They either had to do THRASH with John.... or they had to spend a little more time WRITING THE FUCKING SONGS, not something Anthrax likes to do. (They prefer to just put a bunch of riffs and sections together.) I've listened to ALL the Bush ANthrax albums and EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. i can't stand them, and it's NOT Bush' voice NOR the absence of Joey. IT'S CUZ THE SONGS, THE RIFFS, THE MELODIES are THROWAWAY....LAZY SHIT. Sing the chorus to ONLY. HOW could it be ANY LAZIER? SEE? The band was TIRED by the time Bush joined. For me, only STD and Worship Music have GREAT SONGS. I'm not impressed with FAST and HEAVY....if you can't write KILLER tunes.
@@mwl78rwe I doubt it. I don’t know what happened, but Scott only referred to him along the lines of “some other guy we had for a minute” in his first book. Dan hasn’t said anything about it himself to my knowledge, but the little bit that I talked with him in the past, he always came off like he was thankful he had the opportunity, and bummed it didn’t come to fruition, but I never heard or read of him badmouthing anyone. Something tells me we may never know.
These guys were twisting themselves into pretzels for the first five minutes, trying to explain why they made the change, and none of the answers were clear.
Its because they all lied yet knew they needed to put this part in the docu. Why do you think it took a full week to be released unlike the others released every 2 or 3 days.
Backtracking that's why Watch the old behind the music. They shit all over Joey retrospectively both during that period, AND the '06 reunion.....One of the few things I couldn't respect about this whole documentary.
Reality is Joeys partying at the time was an issue (their words not mine), musically the landscape was changing and even now joey still seems like an outsider. Up until the reunion, they were pretty open bout this. Obviously, nowadays, they skirt around the issues.
It was a weird/great period for music at the time. Too many bands to mention, the majority of them great. It was almost like the change had to happen, but I remained Team Joey. And when he came back it was all for the better.
The rise of grunge and the explosion in Metallica's popularity must have had an effect on their decision at the time. John Bush is very talented and I like some of the songs they put out over the course of 4 albums, but the fact they are having a bit of a renaissance with Joey again at the helm, says everything to me. Joey is Anthrax.
He probably would stop to chat. When I saw him with Armored Saint, he told some magazine photographer "youre on the clock, you can wait a little. Let me see the people who've been waiting to see us first"
When Frankie said in an interview on WSOU before this album came out that they had “finally learned how to write songs” I figured that was the sound of another thrash band trying to sell out.
Anthrax managed to have two legendary singers over their history. If you love both era's it is so rewarding. John is my favourite vocalist of all time.
I was disappointed at the time. I liked the Sound Of White Noise but it wasn't the Anthrax I was used to. And I was totally happy when Joey came back!!
Early Anthrax was my favorite band at the time. They are one of the best live performance bands hands down. Might be against the grain, but I did not like any of the Bush era albums. I tried talking myself into liking those albums since I was a fan. I bought SOWN when it came out. Didn't like it. Never bought another album of theirs until Belladonna returned. I saw them live 3 times since. This is Anhtrax🤘
The John Bush era is when I first heard of Anthrax way back in middle school. Immediately became a fan! When I learned of Wikipedia, Anthrax (band) was among my first searches and that's when I learned there were other singers! Went to seek out every album! Took a lot of visits to a lot of music shops but I got 'em! Still a fan of Anthrax to this day, 20 year+ fan, even have the logo tattooed on me!
In my opinion. The sound of every album made with John Bush was the perfect choice for that sound. Every album made with Joey was a perfect choice for that sound. That is from Fistful of Metal to For All Kings. We do need another album, I would say. I have them all.
Anthrax is my favorite band for the last 35 years. I love everything they've done! Among the living and Vol 8 are two different records that will never leave my heart. Just masterful pieces of music too me.
My youth was with Joey and it was really hard for me when he left. I bought SOWN but it just wasn’t the same for me. I agree it just became a totally different band that sounded amazing, I just loved the stuff with Joey way better.
The Joey era was great, the John era was great, and they both fit in the band. My ears are just a little more in tune with John and I've always loved his distorted, but clear, vocals. It's tough when a band changes what is such a big part of their sound, but I feel Anthrax got less backlash than Iron Maiden and were still able to continue to gain fans. The change was almost comparable to Van Halen.
John's vocals translated better into the alternative rock and nu metal eras of the '90s and 2000s. Anthrax made a seamless transition from that style into the emerging new one.
John Bush was established as one of the best singers in metal. It was pretty easy to join a great band like Anthrax and kick ass. Blaze Bayley...well... Still no idea what Iron Maiden was thinking. They should have sat out the 90s.
Love the John Bush era! Fortunate to see anthrax live several times with Mr. Bush. Love that anthrax continues to change, evolve. Best of both worlds with armored saint punching the sky and for all kings with Mr. Belledonna.
Love this album. Listened to it every morning on the way to high school when it was first released. ‘I bash my head against the wall every day....you bash your head against the wall any way!’
I feel like Scott and Charlie and Frank could have done better in this episode actually owning what happened. I think it's kind of cheap for them to keep saying stuff like, "When Joey was then not in the band". They should just come out and say that they fired him, and that they look back on that choice with some guilt or regret or whatever. It's okay to say you were wrong. Even if the music they made with John was awesome (I was in 8th grade when ONLY came out and it blew my mind) they could still say they did Joey wrong. I feel like in this episode they're kind of talking in circles - like people say 'bad stuff happened' but they can't say 'I did bad stuff.' You know? Facing the facts, openly and honestly, is what allows people to move forward in a healthy way. They may have done that amidst the guys in the band (they seem to have great relationships these days) but I felt they could have dealt with the stuff a bit more openly in this episode. I say this as a big fan of both John and Joey, and all the band's catalogue. This episode covers a really hard part of their history, and I've really been enjoying this whole series. Can't wait to see Anthrax live this year.
totally agree - lots of "when the... er... change... happened" and not enough "well, the REASON we had to fire him was THIS" - lots of vague talk but nothing clear and specific. i mean, i get that it was painful, and it's clear there's still guilt and shame about it, but it feels weird to have all that guilt and shame without any clarity or directness. i'm kinda proud of them all for going there, but kinda disappointed by the shuffling and avoidance once they're there!
Totally agree! "We kicked him out, but he's back now!" Fuck that! They treat their singers like disposable objects. Every time, Scott Ian turns around and just talks shit about them in the press.
Love anthrax but really love the John Bush years. Phenomenal live performances every time I saw them. I hope they don’t fly through these years and give them the amount of video episodes they deserve. Have a few for each album as the last albums did. Please !!!!!
Im a huge Anthrax fan, but not the Bush era. At all. I was so dissapointed by see my favourite bands selling themselves... In those times was unpolite to say "Im a thrash metal fan". It was almost forbidden. You could only say you're a "music" fan. Bands like Anthrax lost identity and aproach to grunge. Im proud of saying i allways remained a thrash metal fan, i had a thrash metal band during the 90's, and still today Im an old school thrasher! Allways against the tide! Im so happy Anthrax are back, just wanted to see again Danny Spitz in the band! Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
I still listen to john era anthrax atleast once a week. Some of my favorite music ever made. And john if you read these,thank you. Thank you for doing this with anthrax. THIS is what i was waiting for.
Awesome record! John made Anthrax serious act and I liked that. Great frontman, voice that kills. John had everything. Pot and Sown are the best Anthrax-records.
I've been an Anthrax fan since Fistful. But the John era was just so special. It was pure magic. I would love to hear John preform these songs again live
What a weird time... Introduced to Anthrax with POT and spent the next couple of years absorbing everything they did... next thing you know Only comes out, and hey, that's different! SOWN remains a favourite for me, but almost feels like a side-project... John is a legend, but I'm glad Joey is back behind the mic where he belongs.
PoT switched me on to Anthrax, but White Noise was the album that hooked me for life. That was a GOOD summer for me, soundtracked by that album. The first time I saw the band live was promoting White Noise and it saddens me I'll never hear them play the songs from it again :(
I appreciate you guys addressing Joey's departure in this video but I'm still left wondering if you guys - like Queensryche, Motley Crue & Dokken, for a few similar examples of bands who hit it big in the 80s and tried to "go grunge" in the 90s - were blindsided by the rise of alternative/grunge and that's the real reason you felt you had to change your sound and ultimately fire him? Joey's a very melodic singer with quite a quintessentially "80s" voice (I mean no disrespect by this, btw - I love his singing) and I wonder whether you felt you had to be grittier in order to keep the band alive, and that's the reason he got shown the door?
They sorta hinted to it a few times in the video where they were torn and going in a different direction and wanting to change their sound up. I think it was a purposeful decision to adapt to the times.
I just preferred the John Bush era personally, and Anthrax live were so much more intense with him aswell, Noise and Stomp and WCFYA are bona fide classics that more people should have checked out that I hope they decide to now if they haven't 👍🙂 And John singing the older stuff live was brilliant and had an edge to it
I enjoy all of the 3 singers that sang in this great band. It took me a while to like the Bush era, but now I totally love the albums he is on. I can't wait till the episode where they talk about The Greater Of Two Evils album, because he did an amazing job doing the classics, but especially the Neil Turbin material. I hope one day soon all three singers do a tour together. It would be a dream come true.
the real metalheads I’m the man ep was kind a compilation and they had a segment on it , but yeah the greater of two evils will probably be skipped sadly
Paul's music he was only in the band for a short time , had no album released with him on it, and reportedly shit 💩on a band members head while he slept, you really want a segment about him ?
Hard to watch but very fortunate to have two great guys who have brought something different to the band, SOWN was an amazing album and probably gave them a real shot in the arm, really capturing the change in metal at that time. Such an awesome documentary guys ❤️ thank u
Stomp 442 is my favorite Anthrax album. Blew me away first time I heard it. It was exactly what I needed when I needed it. I was feeling like rock was dead at the time and then this cd picked me back up.
Interesting. I grew up listening to Joey & always knew him as the voice of Anthrax. I quit Anthrax when he left. Because of this docu-series, I'm gonna listen to the Bush albums. I listened to SOWT for the first time the other day because I knew that this was gonna be the next episode. It's definitely different, I really like it & need more listens. I'm curious why you like Stomp 442 & what your favorite song off of it is? I noticed that some people in the threads didn't like it. I'm gonna listen to the (all of the) Bush albums for the first time before each next episode.
For me, its American Pompeii and Nothing. Bare is good. Bare is basically a ballad, but its badass. I know a lot of people prefer their thrash, but I always dug their metal stuff too. It's too bad when the metal community says it has an open mind, but its obvious from these comments that its bullshit. I never understood why some people can't like more than one thing. There is too much good stuff out there to only listen to one genre.
The thing that's really interesting to me is that there's so much emphasis on how different the two versions of the band were but while that definitely came more into view on Stomp, Volume 8 and WCFYA, to me Sound of White Noise is so clearly a direct progression from Persistence of Time in so many ways. The aggression, the darker riffing, thrashy songs like Potter's Field and 1000 Points of Hate and the groovier numbers like Room for One More all share this clear throughline to what was happening on Persistence imo. Big part of why I love the album even though I'm a little more middling on the other John albums.
SOWN is my second favorite album from Anthrax, ATL number one, I love both eras, but I really started to love rock and metal in the 90's so that's why the Bush era is very special to me, Only was my companion throughout the decade I really love that song!, ...
Having been an Anthrax fan from the get go, when they switched to John they lost me. I tried hard to like him, I really did. He has a great voice and seems like a nice guy, It just wasn't the same without Joey. I can respect the body of music they made, but to me it's not Anthrax.
Some many great things to comment on here. Joey is so gracious. John is humble. The other fellas commenting on the situation from their heart. It had to be tough on everyone. I think we as fans are so lucky to have both versions of Anthrax. Personally, I was into Armored Saint before I even heard of Anthrax and I love Armored Saint to death so for me to get the voice of John on four Anthrax albums is priceless as a fan. For me, John is up there with RJD, Dickinson, Halford and Tate. I was more thrilled when he got back together with Saint (and Joey back with Anthrax) but I’ll always treasure those four Anthrax albums. Everyone seems to like SOWN the best but I think it is their weakest (not that it is weak by any stretch of the imagination) with John. The intensity of 442 and the perfection of Vol 8 and WCFYA are top notch, IMO. Thank you Anthrax for putting together this awesome video series. Y’all seem like such a bunch of super swell, down-to-earth guys.
Yeah, with Joey going I went too. Came back to em when Joey returned. It’s only now I’m listening to the Bush albums, off the back of this series. Still not convinced.
The first Anthrax album I ever heard, and still my favorite. Sodium Pentothal, Invisible, Room For One More, This Is Not An Exit...so many killer riffs and songs
They are right. Bush era Anthrax was a completely different band. SOWN is still one of my all time favourite albums. John Bush’s vocals are just sublime.
must be a femboy
@@radkesrods1184 bless you. I hope you feel better after that put down
I saw them on the We've Come For You All tour. I've seen Anthrax several times, but that show with Bush was better than all the rest by miles. They absolutely killed it that show.
I did a Review Video for Anthrax, I just wasn't wild about the Jhon Bush era.
Joey belladonna RESPECT !❤❤❤🎸🎸🎸👍👍👍👍👍📢🎼🎵🎶
ALWAYS!!!!
You can tell from watching all these docs that Joey was always a bit of an outsider in the band. It sounds like he was a more mainstream Hard Rocker guy but then ended up in a Thrash band. AND it was an amazing combination.
Yeah, he came from a much more mainstream hard rock background. And he was almost a session singer - he never contributed anything to the songwriting, lyrically or musically.
I do get the feeling that he's a hired voice. I had the live vhs video back in the late eighties and I thought it then with some of the outclips they included.
plus it was TOTALLY PERSONAL:
the other four RESENTED JOEY at every moment, b/c he was TOO POPPY and it made many metal fans mock Anthrax, so they wanted to be SUPER-HEAVY.... but joey's too melodic...
PLUS....JOEY IS A DORK, even when onstage and the band wanted someone more COOL.
Plus, Joey's voice COULD NOT HAVE SAVED THE SHIT SONGS on the Bush-era records.
@@paulsmusic861
He was 4 or 5 years older than the other guys when he joined as well, and not hip on thrash or hardcore punk. They basically had to teach him how to paint-by-numbers. Joey was a classic hard rock/metal cover band singer - John Bush was a natural frontman.
@@dumpygoodness4086
You were right about everything except your last statement - Sound Of White Noise has some of the material that Anthrax has ever written. Stomp 442 was mediocre, but Volume 8 was pretty good, although not as good as SOWN. Haven't listened to We've Come For You All much, but it sounded good from what I've heard.
Joey once again a King amongst Men. He's the most Down too Earth, Thankful and Gracious I have ever seen in a World Wide band I believe. There is No Me with Joey it's always Us and Team. Respect.
I met Joey at a solo show in Newark DE in either 2010 or 2011 and he was the nicest and easiest guy to talk to. I actually had to end the conversation because I noticed there was a line of fans behind me waiting and I didn’t want to hold them up. We talked for a good ten minutes and the show after was great. A fun night.
Spot on..the one who will not dissapoint you as a fan is Joey Belladona.😎Respect.
And Scott Ian pretty much Sh*t on him wanting to sound all heavy like Pantera or something. He should've thought that the fella sings Journey cover tunes before picking him for the singer of a metal band. It wasn't Joey's fault as Scott allready knew for 10 yrs what kind of a singer Joey was. He blamed Joey for Anthrax not being bigger. Should've stuck with Joey. Joey is such an Awesome Dude always loving what he did as well as always loving being in Anthrax. Same with the first singer. I thought he was great for Anthrax as well as that first album they did was Killer, but he had to blame everything on him as well. I wished they would've stuck to the first album sound.
@@johnhareiel5118 Agreed..if we watch the first Big 4 gig in Sofia we can see that Joey is the most charismatic and energised frontmen. His attitude is graceful plus recent albums have demonstrate just how good Joey's voice is now like fine wine.👍🏽
@@salamwati9281 Agreed, and yet you also watch that same video.....or should I say the backstage footage on you tube where its footage of Joey before the show, it's of him getting a drink, hanging around, etc, and the other guys pretty much treat him like some coworker. They ain't buddies with him backstage. He kind of looks left out. I think that's BS! I was in Anthrax I'd be backstage going wild with him like some Teenager Besties. I think Scott treated him like sone sh*t, but then begged him to come back cause of Anthrax not being able to do Sofia without him. I would've been backstage by him living it up like we gonna conquer the world together and Anthrax seem to just treat him like some coworker that gotta be around.......and me over here like I'd love getting to hang with Joey a full day man! He's a Native American, like I am partially. I'd love to float the river all day with the dude in a conoe at the river by my house, sipping beer out the ice chest, and talking to him about music, life too. Just a super cool dude, and Anthrax act like it's a chore to be around him
John Bush, if you are reading this, I love you man
Yes, I also love you bro lol. Bush has always been my favorite, no disrespect to Joey.
His voice ia unique and ageless. Him playing The Four Horsemen with Metallica is fuckin awesome
Charlie and Scott still love the guy same as with Danny from SOD
@@sevenman9672 reading some interviews, I always have the feeling that Charlie would prefer sticking with Bush
@@CarlosTourinho
I would as well.
This is my favorite album by Anthrax. Every song is great.
John Bush has a great voice and style. Super cool guy in interviews. Glad he did these.
Never understood the 'fan' competition between Joey and John. Both are excellent. Circumstances aside, they both contributed to amazing records. SOWN, Stomp, Vol. 8 and WCFYA are terrific. SOWN is one of the great metal records of the 90s. And the cover of Ball of Confusion with John and Joey is ridiculously good and works on every level.
Weird to think that Joey's second stint has been longer than his original tenure.
And that John's stint was longer than Joey's first.
fun fact:
EVERYTHING IS WEIRD.
EVERYTHING IS INSANE.
ex:
The sun is a zillion NUCLEAR BOMBS GOING OFF OVER AND OVER without running out of fuel??
ex:
my JIZZ can create a HUMAN BEING???
ex:
I can take a photo of my dick and send it thru space and time across the globe?
EVERYTHING IS CRAZY!
@@dumpygoodness4086 dude I'm off my meds too
@@supremelorddaddyemperorpre6365 and YOUR MOM isn't even good in bed!
(but you already know this, being from "down south")
Anthrax is the one metal band where I want two vocalists.
I want John Bush and Joey Belladonna together! Their vocal ranges are different, so they could harmonize well.
And then having back and forth vocal lines between them would be amazing!
One of my favorite era's of Anthrax. John Bush' voice is insane!🤘
Admit it, by 1991-92 the music world changed. Underground/ Alternative Rock (aka Grunge) exploded & a new revolution in music was happening. Anthrax wanted to blend in with times, so it was "out with the old 80's singer & in with a new modern Vedder, Staley or Cornell like frontman". (there i said it 'cause they won't)
"This Is Not An Exit" and "Potter's Field" are two of my favorite Anthrax songs........EVER.
Nailed it...those two in particular.
I've been coming back to Packaged Rebellion a lot later.
The lukewarm reception and begrudging respect from everyone in this video kills me. I'm with the commenters here. My first Anthrax album was Attack Of the Killer Bs. If it weren't for SOWN, I'd have forgotten them as a novelty metal band. I know nobody's ever gonna see this. Nobody's ever gonna read it... but this album is so fundamental to who I am. I lucked into a promo giveaway CD of this band covering Cowboy Song from some Canadian record store promo during this album's promotional cycle when I was a kid... and learned all about Thin Lizzy. I had multiple copies of this album die when we used to cram CDs into visor wallets in our cars Back in the Day. What'd I do? I bought another. When I committed to digital music, and kept 10 CDs, SOWN was right there with my Thelonius Monk CDs.
I learned about so much music. I found things I still live by today- If you say it mean it, if you mean it do it- Action is the air you breathe is a GODDAMNED TRUTH in my life to this day. I was 15 in '93. I'm forty-mumble today. It took me a long while to realize that Invisible spoke to both people I knew, and people on a grand scale... but the lesson was there early.
Albums are time-and-place, I get this. This was quite possibly my one critical album in that regard, and I get that it wasn't that for a lot of people... but man. as albums that deserve better than resting in Potter's Field, loved by few, forgotten by many go? This heads that list for me. Call it the best Armored Saint album, or not the Anthrax you loved. Everyone accepts it was something different than what they expected... and to me that's the best part of it. I found Persistence of Time because of this album- NOT the other way around. Among the Living taught me about Judge Dredd AFTER I loved SOWN. I didn't even know how to be Metal Thrashin' Mad behind the wheel until after I'd spent an entire summer with this album on loop driving around!
Im glad I have something special to me... but man, it's like expecting a girl to love a movie because you grew up with it. It kills me that nobody seems to get it.
Anthrax has always done well with Joey. With Bush one good album and then almost dont exist for 10 years.
One of my favorite albums!
It's so good.
é nois, porra! meu favorito deles também! comprei até um cassette original há uns 2 anos atrás. só cantiga foda!!!
The Sound of White Noise...is legendary. It was a slap in the face. It woke us up. John Bush was a great fit. Danny quitting after this, is what hurt the most.
The second best of anthrax. Only spreading the disease is better than that album.
Easily my favorite Anthrax album
This album was soooo underrated. One of the best start to finish. Hands down
John Bush is what got me into Anthrax, the music kept me with them...not too fazed about Joey..he's ok...but Bush...the man's voice is gold. The fact that 2 of the big four wanted him as their vocalist speaks volumes.
This feels like a therapy session for the guys. Good on them for talking about it openly.
They barely discussed it. "We kicked out Joey, but he's back. So, it's all cool."
There were no awkward moments. Fucking Bushthrax was some of the best fucking Anthrax. EVER. Scott's writing and John's vocals... MASSIVE! I love Joey, and there would be no Anthrax of our youth or today, without him, but John's era was phenomenal, through and through. The energy. The edge. The fucking delivery, man... I'm currently driving 5 hours one-way for work and Bushthrax carries me there and back.
Thank you Anthrax and thank you John Bush for giving me more than I ever could return. I love you guys. And we get John with Anthrax and Armored Saint is FORFUCKINGEVER.
And yes, we love you too, Joey.
Frank is right. Two singers, two different versions of the same band. And I am a huge fan of both!
The best anthrax álbum. The lyrics the riffs the Voice
Jhon sounds like lion
I've been an Anthrax fan since Among the living... And I know this isn't going to be popular, but its just true... Sound of White Noise is my favorite Anthrax Album. Nothing personal against Joey Belladonna, I love Joey... But the truth is that album just would NOT have been what it was with Joey singing on it... John Bush is amazing on that record... and it gave BRAND NEW LIFE to the band in my opinion. I love everything they've done since Joey's back in the band, and I'm glad to have him back.. but I wouldn't trade Sound of white noise for every other album they ever made put together. I just think it's got the perfect mix of drive, groove, power, and Johns Vocal just fits it like a glove... Its very close to how I see the 94 Motley Crue album... This is the thrash metal version of that for me lol.
Totally agree with you, in fact I love all John era stuff and he wasn't scared to sing Joey songs. The greater of two evils is amazing.
Comparing Crue in the same sentence as Anthrax just showed why you love Alice in Chains, I mean Sound of White Noise.
Black Lodge is the only song I can think of that could sound like Alice In Chains, but it's a beautiful song, so who cares?
This album was my intro to Anthrax. Still remember my friend bringing it over to my house and playing it for me. I love the John era of Anthrax (as well as all of Joey's runs with the band) and the band did what they needed to do to stay alive and thrive in those changing times.
I literally just got done listening to this.... it is 1 of my all time favorite albums of ALL GODDAMN TIME... I LOVE JOHN BUSH!!!!!!!
PS..... 8:34 Bush sings Four Horseman with Metallica..... GODDAMNIT BUSH SHOULD STILL JOIN METALLICA!!!!!
Me too man! Great album! I still listen to it all the time. It has stood the test of time. And I'll continue to listen to this album. I love both versions of Anthrax.
@@frankthebutcher6679 No. James is Metallica.
@@herbertwest9626 no one said kick him out
@@frankthebutcher6679 I meant his position as a singer, of course. But all this hypothetical stuff is a joke anyway.
I came onboard with Spreading and stopped listening after this album dropped. I had it and liked it, and saw them tour for it but it just didn't grab me. I rejoined with Worship and I can truly say that for me Anthrax is Joey.
I was 100% the same way
If you didn’t check out Stomp 442, Volume 8, and WCFYA, that’s totally your loss. If you did and they didn’t grab you, I’m at a loss.
Just like maiden is bruce right??
100% the same.
@@derekgilbert1752 we ALL wanted to LOVE Bush in ANthrax, dude.
ON PAPER it sounds fucking INCREDIBLE!
(I hate MOST metal singers cuz they are generic, but John Bush was better and more distinctive than 90% of metal singers....)
BUT THE SONGS WERE LAZY AND CRAPPY (nevermind they wanted to copycat on grunge) (had the SONGS BEEN GREAT, with great riffs and vocal melodies.... NONE OF US WOULD CARE they "sold out", see?)
They either had to do THRASH with John.... or they had to spend a little more time WRITING THE FUCKING SONGS, not something Anthrax likes to do. (They prefer to just put a bunch of riffs and sections together.)
I've listened to ALL the Bush ANthrax albums and EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. i can't stand them, and it's NOT Bush' voice NOR the absence of Joey.
IT'S CUZ THE SONGS, THE RIFFS, THE MELODIES are THROWAWAY....LAZY SHIT.
Sing the chorus to ONLY.
HOW could it be ANY LAZIER?
SEE?
The band was TIRED by the time Bush joined.
For me, only STD and Worship Music have GREAT SONGS.
I'm not impressed with FAST and HEAVY....if you can't write KILLER tunes.
I love both Anthrax bands. That being said Anthrax was the only Big 4 band that remained awesome in the 90’s.
Frank Bello at 11:40 said it best. Two versions of the band. This is their finest album with John Bush.
This album is f'n epic . So damn crunchy .it elevated Anthrax to a new musical level.
Gotta respect that they’re covering the whole Anthrax history ... Including awkward moments like these.
Agreed. And Joey comes off like such a great guy here.
Black lodge is the best song they ever made.
this so much, unlike the Pantera guys who just forgot about their whole 80s history, albums and overall material
I agree. I wish they'd interviewed Greg Walls and Greg D'angelo in the first episode.
@@mwl78rwe I doubt it. I don’t know what happened, but Scott only referred to him along the lines of “some other guy we had for a minute” in his first book. Dan hasn’t said anything about it himself to my knowledge, but the little bit that I talked with him in the past, he always came off like he was thankful he had the opportunity, and bummed it didn’t come to fruition, but I never heard or read of him badmouthing anyone. Something tells me we may never know.
These guys were twisting themselves into pretzels for the first five minutes, trying to explain why they made the change, and none of the answers were clear.
Its because they all lied yet knew they needed to put this part in the docu. Why do you think it took a full week to be released unlike the others released every 2 or 3 days.
Bro, thumbs up just for the SEGA logo.
@@robroblox8844 I'm sure all these videos have been completed for months.
Backtracking that's why
Watch the old behind the music. They shit all over Joey retrospectively both during that period, AND the '06 reunion.....One of the few things I couldn't respect about this whole documentary.
Reality is Joeys partying at the time was an issue (their words not mine), musically the landscape was changing and even now joey still seems like an outsider. Up until the reunion, they were pretty open bout this. Obviously, nowadays, they skirt around the issues.
I really hope someone combines all of these episodes into a cohesive documentary.
Im sure a youtuber fan has everything loaded up in his editing program waiting for that last episode.
Add em up. 24 episodes...gotta be about 8 hours long
John Bush with Anthrax = pure power
John Bush should always get props for being super cool, no matter what the circumstances surrounding the band
@8:28 Lars is calling his lawyer: "They have focking used our footage"
It was a weird/great period for music at the time. Too many bands to mention, the majority of them great. It was almost like the change had to happen, but I remained Team Joey. And when he came back it was all for the better.
Imagine a world without Only Safe Home or Poison My Eyes ...... I don’t want to . Anthrax had two great eras .
The rise of grunge and the explosion in Metallica's popularity must have had an effect on their decision at the time. John Bush is very talented and I like some of the songs they put out over the course of 4 albums, but the fact they are having a bit of a renaissance with Joey again at the helm, says everything to me. Joey is Anthrax.
And the rise of groove metal
@@ps-yk8su
Groove metal>>>thrash metal.
Ya I think so also with Megadeth
@@dowens3781 Groove metal is shit. One of the worst genres of metal.
John Bush just comes off as such a down to earth cool guy, would love to just sit down and chat with him for awhile.
And he's a bad-ass singer.
He probably would stop to chat. When I saw him with Armored Saint, he told some magazine photographer "youre on the clock, you can wait a little. Let me see the people who've been waiting to see us first"
I've met & talked with John many times. He is a high caliber, down-to-earth human being ... and one of the greatest voices in Metal.
When Frankie said in an interview on WSOU before this album came out that they had “finally learned how to write songs” I figured that was the sound of another thrash band trying to sell out.
Maybe one of the few bands that both vocalists era are awesome🤘
Anthrax managed to have two legendary singers over their history. If you love both era's it is so rewarding. John is my favourite vocalist of all time.
I am sooo addicted To this YT series 💪🤘🎸👊♥️
This is the BEST Anthrax album....and one of the greatest metal albums of the 90s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell yes!
I was disappointed at the time. I liked the Sound Of White Noise but it wasn't the Anthrax I was used to. And I was totally happy when Joey came back!!
Early Anthrax was my favorite band at the time. They are one of the best live performance bands hands down. Might be against the grain, but I did not like any of the Bush era albums. I tried talking myself into liking those albums since I was a fan. I bought SOWN when it came out. Didn't like it. Never bought another album of theirs until Belladonna returned. I saw them live 3 times since. This is Anhtrax🤘
The John Bush era is when I first heard of Anthrax way back in middle school. Immediately became a fan! When I learned of Wikipedia, Anthrax (band) was among my first searches and that's when I learned there were other singers! Went to seek out every album! Took a lot of visits to a lot of music shops but I got 'em! Still a fan of Anthrax to this day, 20 year+ fan, even have the logo tattooed on me!
Sound of white noise is a masterpiece in my eyes highly underated
Please stop using this word in every goddamn comment section.
@@anotherunoriginalcomment He didn't use the word. He wrote "under-ated". Just one r. 🤔
Sound of White Noise is for me the best Anthrax album they ever made. Saw them life in the Netherlands after this album release, great concert.
That's right, kick out your biggest asset... But you live and learn.
In my opinion. The sound of every album made with John Bush was the perfect choice for that sound. Every album made with Joey was a perfect choice for that sound. That is from Fistful of Metal to For All Kings. We do need another album, I would say. I have them all.
Anthrax is my favorite band for the last 35 years. I love everything they've done! Among the living and Vol 8 are two different records that will never leave my heart. Just masterful pieces of music too me.
My youth was with Joey and it was really hard for me when he left. I bought SOWN but it just wasn’t the same for me. I agree it just became a totally different band that sounded amazing, I just loved the stuff with Joey way better.
The Joey era was great, the John era was great, and they both fit in the band. My ears are just a little more in tune with John and I've always loved his distorted, but clear, vocals. It's tough when a band changes what is such a big part of their sound, but I feel Anthrax got less backlash than Iron Maiden and were still able to continue to gain fans. The change was almost comparable to Van Halen.
And the fact they didn't go down the pan
Finally someone who agrees with me.
John's vocals translated better into the alternative rock and nu metal eras of the '90s and 2000s. Anthrax made a seamless transition from that style into the emerging new one.
John Bush was established as one of the best singers in metal. It was pretty easy to join a great band like Anthrax and kick ass. Blaze Bayley...well...
Still no idea what Iron Maiden was thinking. They should have sat out the 90s.
Love the John Bush era! Fortunate to see anthrax live several times with Mr. Bush. Love that anthrax continues to change, evolve. Best of both worlds with armored saint punching the sky and for all kings with Mr. Belledonna.
Love this album. Listened to it every morning on the way to high school when it was first released.
‘I bash my head against the wall every day....you bash your head against the wall any way!’
Love that song, Potter's Field, and Packaged Rebellion. Fuck, the whole album rules.
This album is a masterpiece! Stop 🛑
I feel like Scott and Charlie and Frank could have done better in this episode actually owning what happened. I think it's kind of cheap for them to keep saying stuff like, "When Joey was then not in the band". They should just come out and say that they fired him, and that they look back on that choice with some guilt or regret or whatever. It's okay to say you were wrong. Even if the music they made with John was awesome (I was in 8th grade when ONLY came out and it blew my mind) they could still say they did Joey wrong. I feel like in this episode they're kind of talking in circles - like people say 'bad stuff happened' but they can't say 'I did bad stuff.' You know? Facing the facts, openly and honestly, is what allows people to move forward in a healthy way. They may have done that amidst the guys in the band (they seem to have great relationships these days) but I felt they could have dealt with the stuff a bit more openly in this episode. I say this as a big fan of both John and Joey, and all the band's catalogue. This episode covers a really hard part of their history, and I've really been enjoying this whole series. Can't wait to see Anthrax live this year.
totally agree - lots of "when the... er... change... happened" and not enough "well, the REASON we had to fire him was THIS" - lots of vague talk but nothing clear and specific. i mean, i get that it was painful, and it's clear there's still guilt and shame about it, but it feels weird to have all that guilt and shame without any clarity or directness. i'm kinda proud of them all for going there, but kinda disappointed by the shuffling and avoidance once they're there!
Totally agree! "We kicked him out, but he's back now!" Fuck that! They treat their singers like disposable objects. Every time, Scott Ian turns around and just talks shit about them in the press.
@@IWML When it first happened, Ian totally slagged him in the press. Now, it's "We kicked him out. Ooopsies! Now he's back, so it's all good."
@@IWML Bands are nothing but a heartbreak waiting to happen.
@@captainshaw685 Did he? I've been wondering and Wikipedia is silent on the matter.
Love anthrax but really love the John Bush years. Phenomenal live performances every time I saw them. I hope they don’t fly through these years and give them the amount of video episodes they deserve. Have a few for each album as the last albums did. Please !!!!!
Couldn't agree more.
Im a huge Anthrax fan, but not the Bush era. At all.
I was so dissapointed by see my favourite bands selling themselves... In those times was unpolite to say "Im a thrash metal fan". It was almost forbidden. You could only say you're a "music" fan. Bands like Anthrax lost identity and aproach to grunge.
Im proud of saying i allways remained a thrash metal fan, i had a thrash metal band during the 90's, and still today Im an old school thrasher! Allways against the tide!
Im so happy Anthrax are back, just wanted to see again Danny Spitz in the band!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
I still listen to john era anthrax atleast once a week. Some of my favorite music ever made.
And john if you read these,thank you. Thank you for doing this with anthrax. THIS is what i was waiting for.
MY FAVORITE ALBUM NO DOUBT ,,,,from BRASIL keep going
Joey is Anthrax voice not bush .. I’m so glad Joey came back
John Bush was on fire for this so was everyone! Fantastic album way ahead of its time!!👌
Anthrax' black album. RIP....after this they became a shadow.
Awesome record! John made Anthrax serious act and I liked that. Great frontman, voice that kills.
John had everything.
Pot and Sown are the best Anthrax-records.
I've been an Anthrax fan since Fistful. But the John era was just so special. It was pure magic. I would love to hear John preform these songs again live
You're the *ONLY* one.
My favorite Anthrax era with John! Awesome music!!!
What a weird time... Introduced to Anthrax with POT and spent the next couple of years absorbing everything they did... next thing you know Only comes out, and hey, that's different! SOWN remains a favourite for me, but almost feels like a side-project... John is a legend, but I'm glad Joey is back behind the mic where he belongs.
PoT switched me on to Anthrax, but White Noise was the album that hooked me for life. That was a GOOD summer for me, soundtracked by that album. The first time I saw the band live was promoting White Noise and it saddens me I'll never hear them play the songs from it again :(
I appreciate you guys addressing Joey's departure in this video but I'm still left wondering if you guys - like Queensryche, Motley Crue & Dokken, for a few similar examples of bands who hit it big in the 80s and tried to "go grunge" in the 90s - were blindsided by the rise of alternative/grunge and that's the real reason you felt you had to change your sound and ultimately fire him? Joey's a very melodic singer with quite a quintessentially "80s" voice (I mean no disrespect by this, btw - I love his singing) and I wonder whether you felt you had to be grittier in order to keep the band alive, and that's the reason he got shown the door?
They sorta hinted to it a few times in the video where they were torn and going in a different direction and wanting to change their sound up. I think it was a purposeful decision to adapt to the times.
Not grunge, just moving away from falsetto singing, which was becoming passé at the time as the next wave of metal was rolling in...
Queensryche being grunge is the funniest bullshit I have ever read.
@@homerc9101 Yeah, you can truly hear the Punk influence in their work...
I don’t think this record was grunge in any way. It was much heavier than anything Anthrax had ever done.
Today's Anthrax is THE MOST CREATIVE of ALL ANTHRAX... FOR ALL KINGS is a GREAT LISTEN FROM START TO FINISH...
I just preferred the John Bush era personally, and Anthrax live were so much more intense with him aswell, Noise and Stomp and WCFYA are bona fide classics that more people should have checked out that I hope they decide to now if they haven't 👍🙂
And John singing the older stuff live was brilliant and had an edge to it
Volume 8 too,! all of the Bush era albums are worth your time. Packed full of great tunes and great playing and singing
Love Joey, Love John, Love Anthrax, Love Armored Saint! Metal family 4 life!
I enjoy all of the 3 singers that sang in this great band. It took me a while to like the Bush era, but now I totally love the albums he is on. I can't wait till the episode where they talk about The Greater Of Two Evils album, because he did an amazing job doing the classics, but especially the Neil Turbin material. I hope one day soon all three singers do a tour together. It would be a dream come true.
I hope the special live steam show they are talking about features all three singers and leads to a tour of the same
they wont talk about the greater of 2 evils its a compilation just like attack of the killer Bs
What about Dan Nelson lol!!!! I wonder if they'll skip that.
the real metalheads I’m the man ep was kind a compilation and they had a segment on it , but yeah the greater of two evils will probably be skipped sadly
Paul's music he was only in the band for a short time , had no album released with him on it, and reportedly shit 💩on a band members head while he slept, you really want a segment about him ?
Sounds is one of the greatest albums ever. I'm glad they're talking everything openly.
Finally someone acknowledges this masterpiece
The screaming at the beginning of the intro, is Joey going under the bus.
A great chapter for Anthrax, an awkward one for this show.
Hard to watch but very fortunate to have two great guys who have brought something different to the band, SOWN was an amazing album and probably gave them a real shot in the arm, really capturing the change in metal at that time. Such an awesome documentary guys ❤️ thank u
Most under rated anthrax album imo it’s my favorite
That title belongs to Volume 8: The Threat is Real.
@@ottocardonarosado think so too
SOWN isn't underrated at all. It is very well recognized.
@@MB-ct1yb agreed, and It's the second most succesfull record from their career. Only "I'm the Man" sold more.
Sound of White Noise is my favorite Anthrax album. Love both Joey and John.
Stomp 442 is my favorite Anthrax album. Blew me away first time I heard it. It was exactly what I needed when I needed it. I was feeling like rock was dead at the time and then this cd picked me back up.
Interesting. I grew up listening to Joey & always knew him as the voice of Anthrax. I quit Anthrax when he left. Because of this docu-series, I'm gonna listen to the Bush albums. I listened to SOWT for the first time the other day because I knew that this was gonna be the next episode. It's definitely different, I really like it & need more listens. I'm curious why you like Stomp 442 & what your favorite song off of it is? I noticed that some people in the threads didn't like it. I'm gonna listen to the (all of the) Bush albums for the first time before each next episode.
For me, its American Pompeii and Nothing. Bare is good. Bare is basically a ballad, but its badass. I know a lot of people prefer their thrash, but I always dug their metal stuff too. It's too bad when the metal community says it has an open mind, but its obvious from these comments that its bullshit. I never understood why some people can't like more than one thing. There is too much good stuff out there to only listen to one genre.
@@darrenhoner9579 Thanks for the reply. I'll listen to Stomp 442 soon.
Have to be the best Album for me....every single song pure gold!!
Love all of this
The best Anthrax album ever! The BEST!!!!
The thing that's really interesting to me is that there's so much emphasis on how different the two versions of the band were but while that definitely came more into view on Stomp, Volume 8 and WCFYA, to me Sound of White Noise is so clearly a direct progression from Persistence of Time in so many ways. The aggression, the darker riffing, thrashy songs like Potter's Field and 1000 Points of Hate and the groovier numbers like Room for One More all share this clear throughline to what was happening on Persistence imo. Big part of why I love the album even though I'm a little more middling on the other John albums.
SOWN is my second favorite album from Anthrax, ATL number one, I love both eras, but I really started to love rock and metal in the 90's so that's why the Bush era is very special to me, Only was my companion throughout the decade I really love that song!, ...
best album, best era…
So good. I love this record! It was such a great follow up to Persistence of Time!
HOLY SHIT BUSH ERA LETS GOOOOO
Having been an Anthrax fan from the get go, when they switched to John they lost me. I tried hard to like him, I really did. He has a great voice and seems like a nice guy, It just wasn't the same without Joey. I can respect the body of music they made, but to me it's not Anthrax.
I hear ya! With this series playing out I’ve tried and tried but with the exception of a few tracks it ain’t the Thrax to me.
Opposite for me. Anthrax was played out before Bush signed on. SoWN brought me back to Anthrax.
Agree completely, Kevin!
Exactly.
Opposite for me too, I really started to get in to Anthrax on Stomp 442 and never looked back until much later , still prefer the Bush era
Stomp 442 & Volume 8 are amazing records. I don’t care what anyone says. Inside Out is probably my favorite Anthrax song. At least in my Top 3
Bush was great and deserves all the props, his time was crucial.
absolutely! he carried Anthrax through the lean years for Thrash. I doubt Anthrax would have survived to this era without John.
Mon album préféré d'Anthrax ! Que des bombes là dessus avec une production parfaite...
The VH1 behind the music is here And is calling bs on Scott. Scott then said Joey’s drinking had gotten out of hand and they weren’t getting along.
@UCuwHOm4Pv3P3sJ62yipupnw I’m more referring to him saying in this that it wasn’t personal. Behind the music he sings a different toon
Some many great things to comment on here. Joey is so gracious. John is humble. The other fellas commenting on the situation from their heart. It had to be tough on everyone. I think we as fans are so lucky to have both versions of Anthrax. Personally, I was into Armored Saint before I even heard of Anthrax and I love Armored Saint to death so for me to get the voice of John on four Anthrax albums is priceless as a fan. For me, John is up there with RJD, Dickinson, Halford and Tate. I was more thrilled when he got back together with Saint (and Joey back with Anthrax) but I’ll always treasure those four Anthrax albums. Everyone seems to like SOWN the best but I think it is their weakest (not that it is weak by any stretch of the imagination) with John. The intensity of 442 and the perfection of Vol 8 and WCFYA are top notch, IMO. Thank you Anthrax for putting together this awesome video series. Y’all seem like such a bunch of super swell, down-to-earth guys.
Yeah, with Joey going I went too. Came back to em when Joey returned. It’s only now I’m listening to the Bush albums, off the back of this series.
Still not convinced.
Same. I didn't listen to them for years until Joey was back. I appreciate and even enjoy the albums with John now.
The first Anthrax album I ever heard, and still my favorite. Sodium Pentothal, Invisible, Room For One More, This Is Not An Exit...so many killer riffs and songs
I love John Bush's era 🤘🏻