Note - I did indeed test between no drivers, and there was two or three drivers that I had on hand that I went through. Most times the drivers didn't change much performance wise, but the turnip drivers would crash the device constantly - no drivers was the most stable. (even my livestream showed the hard crashes) But my video definitely isn't meant to be the gospel or definitive experience - just mine. I'm confident there's people out there that will try a million different combinations of drivers + firmware + emulator versions + more to make each game playable or better, but I'm not that person. Just wanted to get this video out to showcase Switch since everyone seems to be so scared nowadays.
Thanks for the great coverage of the Retroid 5, Joey! You mentioned you used the Turnip drivers, I found on both my Odin Pro (SD845) and Pimax Portal (SD865+) that Turnip drivers rarely helped and usually made things worse in Yuzu. Instead you can try using the Pojav/Qualcomm v0615vxx driver's in Yuzu/Sudachi for best results if you haven't already, it makes a massive difference.
@@johnhopkinson7573 because most gamers lost self-respect as consumers. They are willingly give their own money for overpriced system and games with the most awful anti-consumer policy instead of demanding better for themselves and for less money.
@@Sly2CooperI doubt that most people are paying full price maybe younger ppl but thats this whole industry depends on now which is ironic it used to be more kid friendly with a wider demographic now its mostly adult themed with a majority kid audience
@@SuperMelphis Retroid Pocket 5 has an OLED screen, has enough power to emulate Switch and costs $220. It also has the ability to play almost any imaginable game from legacy platforms for free. Please, remind me the price of Switch and N64 games subscription. I don't understand the necessity of Switch or Switch 2 anymore. To get another round of overpriced games and hardware? At least Steam has better prices and Valve doesn't run for its fans and emulation enthusiasts with a gun. Retroid Pocket, Valve and other UMPC manufacturers care both for my gaming needs AND my wallet. And gaming community overall. Nintendo doesn't care any of that.
I'm waiting for my RP5 to arrive. And I understand that many want to run the Switch exclusives on this handheld, but for my use the Switch Emulator will mainly serve to run indie, pixel art, 2D or Isometric games, the Switch stole the title of best platform for indie games that was previously PSVITA. And I intend to take advantage of that in RP5... Oled Screen. ❤ In itself, great video.
Thanks for the video!. This device will be the sweet spot for emulation (not for Switch). What I really would love to see is how 3DS emulation is on the RP5.
Joey really switched it up with this showcase. I don't have anything to add. This is the only RP5 showcase of his I hadn't watched yet and I wanted to microscopically help his engagement numbers in some way. That's also why this comment exists.
Thanks for the honest information on switch with the RP5. I feel like people are skirting around the very limited switch performance and it's misleading potential buyers.
It's definitely the usual Switch shenanigans. I have no doubt some of the not able to load games, can be, by finding some weird combination of other drivers + firmware + emulator. But honestly, who has the time.
Currently I have an Odin 2 Pro, and even with that i had to make several tweaks to get things running right. Having the right emulator and drivers helps. For instance sudachi didnt work well for me, but yuzu did. The regular qualcomm drivers helped but then i also use turnip driver 24.1.0 Test R18 version and assigned the drivers on a per game settings. For the RP5, you will definitely need to do a lot of tweaks to get things running right.
I own the odin 2 (base) and yeah switch emulation is a pain in the @ss with all those tweaking ..the best way to play switch games is to the console itself💯
I fully understand those who don't want to risk it, but this is great to see! i already have and love my switch, but since I'm getting an RP5 for other games it's fun to know what will work.
@@simmzfour uh... no lol. Because with THIS title and THOSE opening titles in the video that is enough for a copyright strike. 3 strikes on his channel and UA-cam removes it. But ok we should stop telling people not to do that because it annoys you.
@@alexanderjohnson8250 Joey already spoke on this in one of his news videos. He said he is going to do what he is going to do and quit if they take the channel down.
I saw a different video that had a lot unplayable for you working fine including Arcues and Odyssey so I'm sure a lot more of these can be playable with extra tinkering
Definitely agree with using a switch for switch. Did you try using older turnip drivers? I saw another video with someone using older ones and they seemed to have better luck with some games.
He's not, really. Previous strikes were found to be coming from fanboys pretending to be nintendo, not nintendo themselves. Nintendo has said the address that their strikes would come from, and the ones that have been happening have not been from said address.
I have the Odin 2 Pro(still very unstable, just android in general). I just use the ROG Ally X because of Ryujinx stability on Windows. Ryujinx was so close to releasing on Android. I was waiting patiently for the release but when I heard of it being shut down. :( :( :(
I bought the GC color to play Gamecube on. Thing looks like a dream console for me on the nostalgia front. A handheld Gamecube that looks this good is crazy
That screen is stunning. 👍 But yes even with an Odin 2 Switch games are glitchy.. I finally got myself a Switch OLED and moded it + overclock. Now at least all the games run fine 😅
Thanks for the review. Yeah, the devs weren't interested in making the RP5 play Switch games. It's main goal was classic consoles. Perhaps, the RP6 (whenever that happens.) Will run Switch games better. Then there's the fact Switch Emulators are taking a dump atm.
It being able to play indie switch games is enough for me, people will find out fixes for the higher-end games. I've been a mobile player all my life so being able to play any mobile game on high performance is already a plus. Emulation below switch-level is top-notch as well soooo
Pretty sure the jank is coming from the fact that you're on Android. If you installed Linux, something like Bazzite, then you'd get much better performance for Switch Emulation
Isn't the problems you show at Kirby and smash that the shader cache gets build? Since when you do up b the ability doesn't lag out same when you reuse abilities with Kirby.
I'm pretty sure. I actually finished kirby on my tablet with the same chipset. It kept randomly crashing like every hour, and at some places it ran kinda slow, but what he's showing is shader cache, the more you play the better it runs. Again, I finished the game
Little point in spending hours fiddling with settings when many of the big titles will never provide anything more than a crappy experience. modded switch or steam deck (or similar) is the way to go.
I mean bare in mind the review units are the ones Retroid said might have issues because it's not the up-to-date firmware yet. That's why they delayed the public release by 1-2 weeks
@@cappnplanetcappnplanet3237 yeah that could also affect the outcome. Although it is expected the review units of the RP5 have unfinished software. So expect better performance for the actual retail ones
the RP 5 has aprox. double the power of the switch, so theoretically since we do just translation and not full emulation it could with enough optimisations and improvements run all switch games without problems possibly even in docked mode (but that is gonna happen in 5 to 10 years )
Honestly, just the fact that Switch emulation works this well in general is impressive. It feels like it's a software patch or two away from fixing a lot of those games.
What emulator did you seu cus yuzu can run this games with no graphics issues but you need some mods to desable things like variable resolution ( like Luigs mansion, and kirb)
It's best to stream from pc to a handheld device . Use a gamesir controller or similar. And use software parsec, moonlight. It's the best way. Decent WiFi connection needed preferably WiFi 6
I almost wonder if, at this point, UA-camrs are trying to egg Nintendo on to strike them because then it gets reported as news. Russ got a bunch of subs after it happened to him. Haha 😂
Are issues with some of these games like metroid dread due to the power of the system or the state of the emulator? I am really curious about purchasing the device but am also considering maybe waiting a year until the pocket 6 comes out which hopefully will be powerful enough
A man of culture and no fear what Nintendo says. Nintendo this actually works in ur favor Buy a switch for the Best performance in Switch games. And persons who never knew about these other games will buy the switch games. Nintendo needs to hire me lol.
SUDACHI crasches all the time on my Odin 2. I have try different builds, drivers, firmwares even the newest mainline app version too. I have switched back to YUZU 278 works much stable.
@ Ah okay. I heard you say something about 3d world running fine on the mini but I dont see a video about switch emu on mini on your channel, can you link the vid?
Is there any common theme between the games that work and those that dont? For instance do you find games built in the unity engine work and games built inhouse engine's dont work?
Note - I did indeed test between no drivers, and there was two or three drivers that I had on hand that I went through.
Most times the drivers didn't change much performance wise, but the turnip drivers would crash the device constantly - no drivers was the most stable. (even my livestream showed the hard crashes)
But my video definitely isn't meant to be the gospel or definitive experience - just mine. I'm confident there's people out there that will try a million different combinations of drivers + firmware + emulator versions + more to make each game playable or better, but I'm not that person.
Just wanted to get this video out to showcase Switch since everyone seems to be so scared nowadays.
change the thumbnail and the title nintendo took down some nintendo emulation videos
But, did you cook the turnips first?
That's the only way they work for me.
I did the get million turnips cheat, I'm rolling in turnips!
Thanks for the great coverage of the Retroid 5, Joey!
You mentioned you used the Turnip drivers, I found on both my Odin Pro (SD845) and Pimax Portal (SD865+) that Turnip drivers rarely helped and usually made things worse in Yuzu. Instead you can try using the Pojav/Qualcomm v0615vxx driver's in Yuzu/Sudachi for best results if you haven't already, it makes a massive difference.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds I should read things before writing comments 😆
i love Joey, he doesnt give a single f**k about Nintendo's scare tactics
But I don't want to see him down because of it.
@@antonio_carvalho he will not
Ooh bad boi 😆
Russ got a strike not for showing Nintendo games emulated, he got the strikes because Nintendo was angry about his video on the MigSwitch v2.0
@@antonio_carvalho, hoping @Nintendo see this asap ✅
BIG BALLS JOEY AT IT AGAIN 😮.
You go man!!
Me watching this video before Joey ends up in Lake Ontario. 😬
LMFAO
Nintendo in tears right now knowing the Switch 2 is just a 2019 smartphone too. Day 1
That would be really bad. Oc'd switch is already as fast.
Regardless they will sell by the millions and profit is Nintendo's bottom line
@@johnhopkinson7573 because most gamers lost self-respect as consumers. They are willingly give their own money for overpriced system and games with the most awful anti-consumer policy instead of demanding better for themselves and for less money.
@@Sly2CooperI doubt that most people are paying full price maybe younger ppl but thats this whole industry depends on now which is ironic it used to be more kid friendly with a wider demographic now its mostly adult themed with a majority kid audience
@@SuperMelphis Retroid Pocket 5 has an OLED screen, has enough power to emulate Switch and costs $220.
It also has the ability to play almost any imaginable game from legacy platforms for free.
Please, remind me the price of Switch and N64 games subscription.
I don't understand the necessity of Switch or Switch 2 anymore. To get another round of overpriced games and hardware? At least Steam has better prices and Valve doesn't run for its fans and emulation enthusiasts with a gun.
Retroid Pocket, Valve and other UMPC manufacturers care both for my gaming needs AND my wallet. And gaming community overall. Nintendo doesn't care any of that.
I'm waiting for my RP5 to arrive.
And I understand that many want to run the Switch exclusives on this handheld, but for my use the Switch Emulator will mainly serve to run indie, pixel art, 2D or Isometric games, the Switch stole the title of best platform for indie games that was previously PSVITA. And I intend to take advantage of that in RP5... Oled Screen. ❤
In itself, great video.
Says "Super Smash Bros unplayable due to frame rate"
Continues to beat the shit out of the ai
I'm just that good
Thanks for the video!. This device will be the sweet spot for emulation (not for Switch). What I really would love to see is how 3DS emulation is on the RP5.
7 days in and we are all suprised this video is still up
Joey really switched it up with this showcase. I don't have anything to add. This is the only RP5 showcase of his I hadn't watched yet and I wanted to microscopically help his engagement numbers in some way. That's also why this comment exists.
This was awesome. Thanks for all you do always Joey!
Thanks for the honest information on switch with the RP5. I feel like people are skirting around the very limited switch performance and it's misleading potential buyers.
It's definitely the usual Switch shenanigans. I have no doubt some of the not able to load games, can be, by finding some weird combination of other drivers + firmware + emulator.
But honestly, who has the time.
Who’s been skirting around it?
They're scared of Nintendo. They've been on an all out war on emulation that's only gotten worse this year.
I don't think anyone has been skirting around it. It's well known it can't perform well with the snapdragon version it's using.
Good to know the limits of the RP5, thanks Joey! 🍻🤘🏼
Currently I have an Odin 2 Pro, and even with that i had to make several tweaks to get things running right. Having the right emulator and drivers helps. For instance sudachi didnt work well for me, but yuzu did. The regular qualcomm drivers helped but then i also use turnip driver 24.1.0 Test R18 version and assigned the drivers on a per game settings. For the RP5, you will definitely need to do a lot of tweaks to get things running right.
I own the odin 2 (base) and yeah switch emulation is a pain in the @ss with all those tweaking ..the best way to play switch games is to the console itself💯
I had a great experience with Sudachi and the turnip drivers. Interesting that you found Yuzu more performant.
Another great, informative video. Thanks Joey
I fully understand those who don't want to risk it, but this is great to see! i already have and love my switch, but since I'm getting an RP5 for other games it's fun to know what will work.
I love this videos, can see gameplay fast to see if you want buy a game or see new recommends.
Be carefull with those titles, nintendo is watching you 👀👀
Meh. He obviously doesn't care
Stop with the Nintendo comments.
@@simmzfour uh... no lol. Because with THIS title and THOSE opening titles in the video that is enough for a copyright strike. 3 strikes on his channel and UA-cam removes it. But ok we should stop telling people not to do that because it annoys you.
Nintendo can suck a big PHAT ONE
@@alexanderjohnson8250 Joey already spoke on this in one of his news videos. He said he is going to do what he is going to do and quit if they take the channel down.
I saw a different video that had a lot unplayable for you working fine including Arcues and Odyssey so I'm sure a lot more of these can be playable with extra tinkering
Who is the UA-camr?
@devamaria2010 nittrx showed odyssey forget who showed arceus
All work with turnip
Thank you for this, it gave me some perspective. I'm gladly keeping my RP4 Pro for now.
Boy you really got me with that 13 sentinels screen
Beautiful showcase. Thanks for sharing the capabilities of this device.
Definitely agree with using a switch for switch. Did you try using older turnip drivers? I saw another video with someone using older ones and they seemed to have better luck with some games.
Yeah, you're playing with fire with this one.
He's not, really. Previous strikes were found to be coming from fanboys pretending to be nintendo, not nintendo themselves. Nintendo has said the address that their strikes would come from, and the ones that have been happening have not been from said address.
This is why I'm buying the Ayn Odin Portal. 😏
That and better left stick placement. Its 100% going to be the better streaming device too. And moonlight allows 120fps streaming i think
@@KaboWaboo Beautiful! 😍
I have the Odin 2 Pro(still very unstable, just android in general). I just use the ROG Ally X because of Ryujinx stability on Windows. Ryujinx was so close to releasing on Android. I was waiting patiently for the release but when I heard of it being shut down. :( :( :(
@@KaboWaboo Steam Link also supports 120fps 1080
Save the money and get an xr glasses using that $200 you're saving by not going with the portan😂
You are so incredibly brave for this lol, I've decided to just cut newer Nintendo games out of my videos!
Thank you for your sacrifice
I bought the GC color to play Gamecube on. Thing looks like a dream console for me on the nostalgia front. A handheld Gamecube that looks this good is crazy
Bro, try to upload a picture/video of the gamecube edition. You will be the only one on youtube with the GC edition.
@ I have been looking for someone to upload with that colorway. I will most likely get mine with everyone else.
You're a brave one, Joey! Thank you for this video!!!
Not sure if you do this but you can always drop it to 0.75 for more fps and add fxaa to smooth it out.
I would never.
@JoeysRetroHandhelds to each his own, I do it with my razer edge for some titles and it doesn't bother me the slightest.
@@sinitus some people are purists for no reason
This is like the end of the last samurai when they charge headlong towards certain death.
That screen is stunning. 👍 But yes even with an Odin 2 Switch games are glitchy..
I finally got myself a Switch OLED and moded it + overclock. Now at least all the games run fine 😅
This is the way!
Sir, how can we even oc a switch,?
@@tranquocthanh949by modding one & or using a modchip.
@@tranquocthanh949 by modding it first
Man, you are realy brave 😂
It would be nice to see more non-nintendo 1st party games like P5R, Monster hunter, and some indie games.
Legend Arceus and Scarlet Violet is only playable with Turnip driver
but still for RP5 its playable under 0.5x resolution
If this device had the same processor as Odin 2, I would definitely buy it.
In the meantime, I will stick to my Odin 2 max.
Happy times! 🎉
You are the bravest person on youtube!
It would be great to add playable rating (1-5) for easy navigation and quick understanding.
Hurry watch before it gets taken down
Thanks for the review. Yeah, the devs weren't interested in making the RP5 play Switch games. It's main goal was classic consoles. Perhaps, the RP6 (whenever that happens.) Will run Switch games better. Then there's the fact Switch Emulators are taking a dump atm.
Thanks Joey!
Real brave w/ those Nintendo titles. Godspeed sir.
It being able to play indie switch games is enough for me, people will find out fixes for the higher-end games. I've been a mobile player all my life so being able to play any mobile game on high performance is already a plus. Emulation below switch-level is top-notch as well soooo
Thanks for the video we all wanted to see Joey. Was all the testing at 1x resolution? Didn't drop it to see if it would crash less?
1x yep.
Might be better off putting your findings as notes in a community post so you don't get a channel strike from the nintendo ninjas
or just contributing the the RP5 community capabilities spreadsheet
Pretty sure the jank is coming from the fact that you're on Android. If you installed Linux, something like Bazzite, then you'd get much better performance for Switch Emulation
Oh, try some Cemu next. The app works pretty good, wonder what it would be like on rp5. Nice educational video you made here!
Isn't the problems you show at Kirby and smash that the shader cache gets build?
Since when you do up b the ability doesn't lag out same when you reuse abilities with Kirby.
I'm pretty sure. I actually finished kirby on my tablet with the same chipset. It kept randomly crashing like every hour, and at some places it ran kinda slow, but what he's showing is shader cache, the more you play the better it runs. Again, I finished the game
I would have loved to see you try both Octopath Travelers, Sea of Stars, Dead cells ...
At least Dead Cells has a native Android version on Play Store, so this device can run it perfectly
I wanted to see Octopath too, that's pretty much the only Switch game I'm interested in playing on the RP5.
it would be really cool if you did a wii u testing
WOW! I can finally play my Nintendo Switch games on the Go!
Hi Joey! Im having issues getting New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe to run, may I ask what driver you're using?
How did you get sword working? keeps crashing after character creation
Lots of these non-booting games do work in yuzu, so must assume you weren't trying that one?
Little point in spending hours fiddling with settings when many of the big titles will never provide anything more than a crappy experience. modded switch or steam deck (or similar) is the way to go.
That’s it. Joey’s uncle must work for Nintendo.
Bayonetta was running just fine on RetroTechDad RP Mini video, looks like your unit is cursed or something
I mean bare in mind the review units are the ones Retroid said might have issues because it's not the up-to-date firmware yet. That's why they delayed the public release by 1-2 weeks
Tech dad was using uzuy on Android 10, joey likely using a different setup
@@cappnplanetcappnplanet3237 yeah that could also affect the outcome. Although it is expected the review units of the RP5 have unfinished software. So expect better performance for the actual retail ones
the RP 5 has aprox. double the power of the switch, so theoretically since we do just translation and not full emulation it could with enough optimisations and improvements run all switch games without problems possibly even in docked mode (but that is gonna happen in 5 to 10 years )
Esse console so tem 8gb de ram e nao vai rodar bem jogos mas pesados e depende de otimização dos jogos de switch pra rodar bem
The gpu is still being emulated
We need you to continue so please avoid the Nintendo police by avoiding mentioning that nameless console!
But you have to take into consideration that games have to Load shaders but they run fine once they load most of the shaders they need
Honestly, just the fact that Switch emulation works this well in general is impressive. It feels like it's a software patch or two away from fixing a lot of those games.
Thats not going to happen anytime soon
@@Xaphino I know... > w < Thanks Nintendo lol.
Did shield have the dlc and update when you played it?
Tendo:👁️👁️
Joey:🗿
Thank you for the video! If possible, can you please post a video test of Switch Theaterhythm Final Fantasy Final Bar Line?
What emulator did you seu cus yuzu can run this games with no graphics issues but you need some mods to desable things like variable resolution ( like Luigs mansion, and kirb)
Hey Joey. Is there any way you can test Snow Bros Nick & Tom special edition?
Can we expect the exact same crashes on the AYN Portal, but more frames only on the games that run?
It's best to stream from pc to a handheld device . Use a gamesir controller or similar. And use software parsec, moonlight. It's the best way. Decent WiFi connection needed preferably WiFi 6
I saw a different vid show legends arceus running super smooth so that one is possible
You're playing with fire bro
The blurry screen when testing bayonetta can be fixed by using the turnip gpu drivers. I had a similar issue with crash bandicoot 4 on my z fold 5
Are you going to drop a video on ps1 + ps2 performance? thanks!
I almost wonder if, at this point, UA-camrs are trying to egg Nintendo on to strike them because then it gets reported as news. Russ got a bunch of subs after it happened to him. Haha 😂
Are issues with some of these games like metroid dread due to the power of the system or the state of the emulator? I am really curious about purchasing the device but am also considering maybe waiting a year until the pocket 6 comes out which hopefully will be powerful enough
I'm curious, what emulator are you using in this video? Is it the old yuzu or oneo of it's various derivatives
A man of culture and no fear what Nintendo says. Nintendo this actually works in ur favor Buy a switch for the Best performance in Switch games. And persons who never knew about these other games will buy the switch games. Nintendo needs to hire me lol.
If this doesn't get taken down I'm pirating Nintendo IP for the rest of my days.
I wonder what emulator you’re using and drivers because I can’t any luck with Pokemon sword/shield let alone brilliant diamond
SUDACHI crasches all the time on my Odin 2. I have try different builds, drivers, firmwares even the newest mainline app version too. I have switched back to YUZU 278 works much stable.
Very few things on here I’d actually want (I’m fine playing my switch games on my switch) but man, wish neo twewy ran better
Such a shame that Nintendo killed Yuzu and Ryujinx because clearly the chips can handle it, it just needs more development
In time some forks will develop behind the scenes that will fix this issue
I suspect that is precisely why Nintendo was so motivated to kill the emulators.
@@jwlarocque how dare other handheld companies run our latest generation console's games better than we can😠
Actually I think Yuzu works better than actual Sudachi, also Uzuy Edge and Nyushu
Imagine if these still existed... What a dream this would be, if the switch games would run decently on the rp5
Hey Joey, is there a way to rip all Gameboy roms that you know of in a neat package, Luke maybe a Nintendo omniadapter or something
The only Pokémon titles that RP5 ran are the titles I don't have on my Switch 😂
You've got Ballz Joey
what about Skyward Sword HD? I was wondering if I could run the HD version or if I should stick to the original Wii version.
Smash bros should you you have to use a different driver I got it to run on a SD845 full speed 60 fps
Quick question I’m a huge monster hunter fan I was wondering if Monster hunter generations ultimate was playable on this system
Also what about blasphemous??
How was the heat and battery drain?
I tried switch emulation on my odin 2 pro and I experienced a lot of crashing. Probably user error but yeah
Nah, it's not great. I do these videos for information, but Lord help me I'd never emulate Switch.
Varies what you trying to do,
Would love to see binding of Isaac and hades.
Hey Joey, Stay Gold Ponyboy
Well, it works fine for me. I mean, I am only interested in indie games (that I usually own on switch or steam) and I think it will do the job enough.
is the slowness because of the specs? or because the switch emulation isn't good enough yet?
Emulation requires a much more powerful processor than the original device you are emulating. emulators can become more efficient over time though.
Go Portmaster pls, need to PC games on RP5
Hi, are u gonna do a ps2 video like this one ?:)
Probably it's the emulator, on EGG NS mario galaxy is more than playable on a snap 870, and mario wonder works great
Nice video
The Odin 2 is still better than the RP5, right?
Should be the same on the mini as same chipset right?
Same chipset, different Android versions, different emulator versions.
@ Ah okay. I heard you say something about 3d world running fine on the mini but I dont see a video about switch emu on mini on your channel, can you link the vid?
It was Mario Wonder, and it was in my Mini review.
@ Ah okay, thank you! 😁
Is there any common theme between the games that work and those that dont?
For instance do you find games built in the unity engine work and games built inhouse engine's dont work?
is this better then the anbernic 406v??
Way better
Tried New super Mario deluxe but doesn't seem to get past the front screen