I currently have the RG35XXSP and I have ordered the Retroid Pocket 5. I'm SUPER keen for this thing to arrive :) It's so much more capable than the SP, and I just keep finding more games that it can play.
RP4Pro owner here. It's so small with great power. It's perfect for raw dogging with no case in my pockets for amusement park lines. I have addidas zipper pockets so not worried about it falling out during the ride. I feel like that's the perfect use case, especially since it preserves my phone battery in my other pocket. Any larger and it would probably be uncomfortable 2 devices in my pockets. Plus not super worried if it were to break tbh. I'll probably skip this generation and hope the RP6 is no bigger than the rp5 and still packs AMOLED but with a stronger chip. I just get scared raw dogging devices that approach 250+ with shipping, taxes etc
I don’t really put devices larger than my rg28xx in an actual pocket, and larger ones always get a case. But I can see your point if that is a priority for you!
Bro I’m the same way, portability went a long way for me, I can fit my 4pro in it’s case in my pockets or jacket pockets I skateboard so a lot of my pants are a lil baggy anyways, and even if I’ve got smaller pockets or am usually ju at carrying it around in my pocket I have a 3d printed clip shield, and it’s crazy good fits in my pocket just like a phone and I don’t have to worry ab the sticks or anything in my pockets, I honestly sold my switch cause it wasn’t portable like when I had a 3ds, which I also needs put some of those on my rp4p come to think of it I just got done this morning adding another 40 or so ps2 games to my alr 70 ps2 game collection, what’s crazy is I do legit play them, and not only that but I’ve had friends and even my dad has started coming over to my house cause we can play so many couch co op games on my big tv and hook multiple controllers easily and I’ve genuinely not had latency or lag, no one’s complained ab it and I haven’t even had slow downs when which surprised me for co op and multiple Bluetooth controllers, and not a single game multiplayer or single player I’ve come across a problem with, if it’s slow or something there’s legit always been a setting to fix it at least so far, is the and being able to just play it on my own in handheld mode I go back and forth between twilight princess on GameCube, ROM hacks like Pokémon unbound or radical red on gba and a ton more.c it’s honestly become my main handheld and home console, I still play my ps4 and will most likely keep playing certain rom hacks and psp/vita games always on my Japan ps vita I modded myself and is what got me into emulation, I’m glad I still use both, and I’m more than happy, I’ll prob stick with the 4 pro for a long time like most likely at least a couple years, I do the same thing with my phones and wait for a big generation leap, rn I’m more than happy and content 🤝 I think the rp5 looks hella beautiful tho and I do like the design cause it reminds me of a more future vita, really excited to see what they come out with next few gens, great video and review btw!
Yeah for GC it's like night and day. Unfortunately not for PS2 though...but hey you are mostly going to set the resolution to 2.5x most of the time to match the screen so no biggie
the only reason i don't wanna upgrade to the 5 is this 1) If i really want performance, I can spring for the Odin 2 Mini with its 8G2 processor while also having a similar footprint, or go big with the Odin 2. Sure, the jump between D1100 and 865 is decent (especially with Turnip drivers) but it still can't square up fully with 8G2, much less if you're intending to dock and requiring to use higher upscale. 2) most of the games I play on the retroid are Gamecube which is fine to play at 1.5-2x on that small screen. I ain't using a dock to play on my PC monitor or TV where I have to upscale a lot and in turin causing lag etc 3) If I really want best performance for PS2 games, I would just play on PC cuz PCSX2 Exists. 4) the issue now is emulation efficiency on emulator apps on android. Switch is barely on life support with takedowns and PS2 emulator development has stalled for the most part. back to #1 Odin 2 really hit the highest point for android emulation performance already cuz 8G2 is still relatively new while being the same processor as last year's flagship phones like S23 etc. and lastly the dumbest reason 5) I love the watermelon colour a lot it's a shame the 5 doesn't have much colour options. The watermelon colour definitely adds more spa-zazz and personality than just the black/white/"off white" style colours.
Between the gc, 16bit and the screen blending effect of the black device, there are already enough color options to make your decision a living hell. I don't need more options, I want less, because I can't decide already :D
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Form factor is king for me, I love the design of the 4 Pro. I'm not sold on the look of the RP5. I have an RG556 and it is nice for sitting at home on the couch, but I'd never take it anywhere with me, whereas I rarely go anywhere without the RP4 Pro. It won that spot despite me thinking it was too small a screen for the price for the longest time. Now, if I reach for anything bigger than the RP4 Pro, I'm generally grabbing the Steam Deck. What I'd have loved is the design of the 4 Pro, with the Snapdragon chip and larger screen (because I'm certain they could have fit a full 5 inch screen - or 4.95 like the TrimUI Smart Pro). That might have made me jump. As it is now, I'll wait to see what the RP6 looks like. I'm sure the RP5 will be a hit and people will love it, but it isn't for me. Thanks for this comparison though.
I just bought a RP4P and am currently awaiting its delivery from Retroid. £155 for a brand new RP4P with the bugs ironed out (triggers) was plenty for me to be paying out. I might get hit with customs yet which will probably put me in at £190/£200. If I had bought the 5 I’d be looking around £250/260 at that point I’m starting to look at a steam deck.
@ I have had mine a couple weeks now and I love it. I got rid of my analogue pocket and have this. Okay it’s emulation vs fpga so hardly a comparison to the purists but with that being said this has all the benefits and no negatives imo. Originally I was sceptical of having an android based system but now I appreciate it. A bit of tinkering and the UI looks great plus we have the google playstore. There’s nothing like playing PS1 in your lunch break and then moving on to Streets Of Rage 4
So good reading these comments after pulling the trigger on the rp4p yesterday. It’s my first handheld and I was shopping for the 5 but the discount on the 4 was just to good for what it can do and what I want to play.
First time android retro handhled buyer here (I have a modded PS Vita). Thank you for that video. I am convinced I can get by with the 4Pro for what I want to play (PS2 mostly). And since I'm on a budget it's even better.
4 Pro owner here and bought it well before the 5 and Mini were even announced back in May and frankly I feel perfectly happy with it even after the 5's announcement. The games that I want to run on it run just fine and if I want to play Switch games, I'll just grab my Steam Deck, so when it comes to handhelds, I'm pretty well covered.
Looking to buy my first retro handheld console and the RP5 has been on my radar. Mostly looking to play GC and PS2 games. Thank you for this comparison.
Bought a 4 pro a few months ago - I normally play outside or at night so the brightness and screen size is such a big improvement for me. Can't wait for my 5 to arrive!
I dunno how I missed this video! This is great!!! I really like the RP4/Pro for it's price and given the Canadian dollar, it's hard to stomach paying over $300 for the RP5. For 720p GC, this is fine and it's more compact, I still like my RP3+ and it's basically the same size. Switch is a huge diff! Wow. Great comparison, man. I really dunno how I missed this. Might wait and save up for the RP5 tbh. The RP5 is the best choice bang for buck etc. But that price in Canadian, man! $317cad without shipping. I'm in no rush really, already got an Odin 1 base and I stream everything from my pc using Moonlight, it's perfect for me, no matter where I am. lol. Speaking of streaming, that would be something to test in the future. ;) How high of a resolution they can go! heh. Great work, buddy. 👍
I have a R4 Pro. It is a totally luxury purchase for me. The slight performance bump is really not good enough to have an upgrade. Retroid upgrades their products all the time. I just really want the screen.
Спасибо за обзор, за детальное и четкое описание происходящего, все очень доходчиво и понятно. Побольше бы блогеров, которые по существу показывают и рассказывают, ставлю лайк и подписку 👍😊 Вопрос: будет ли обзор на retroid pocket 5 pro? И когда примерно ожидать выход улучшенной версии?
Just the video I was looking for. Have an RP4 Pro and mostly play PS2, doesn't really seem worth it just for that, but the screen would be the main upgrade unless you're playing a lot of GC.
Thank you so much for making a comparison video between the 2! I bought a 4 pro when it came out and wanted to see if it was worth upgrading. I dont emulate anything past 6th generation and i never upscale anything so the 4 pro is good enough for me it seems
Very useful, thx! I have a rp4 pro and play a LOT with AR glasses so the rp5 screen, while nice, is not a major factor for me. I think I'll wait for the rp6 or just get an odin 2.
I've got a rp2s, which has been great at what it does. But it's time to consider upgrading. I was a little hesitant on the rp5 over the rp4pro. Whether it's worth it to go straight to the 5 but it's seems now like a no-brainer.
Thanks for that comparison, top notch! For me, though - if I wanted Switch gaming I'd just use my Switch Lite. This is Retro handheld first and foremost, and Android gaming second. RP4 Pro is more than enough for this task
Almost bought this, but ordered the Odin Pro instead as I mostly need a machine to get my daughter off my Steam Deck for playing Minecraft, and she prefers stick on top.
So play Android Games on RP4P does have great performance? I really want to buy this handheld just to play some Android Games tho, especially Efootball😂
@@Bootstrap3T2 I used to play warzone mobile, but it no longer supports:/ and I also noticed that some old android games have reflections/lightning issues on 2010-2015 games
How do you only have 92 subs?! I've been looking for a creator that has almost no subs so that I can watch a meteoric rise take place in real time, and brother I just found my channel.
@@bassderek I've thought about starting UA-cam myself, I run a small PC and retro game shop and it would be cool to use it as some extra reach for the business. It's great to see someone jump in feet first and do a really good job at it, definitely inspires me to get going on my own.
Great comparison. I'm not a fan of the rp4 and my thoughts are that if it needs a grip to be comfortable to use, the grip may as well be part of the device and so I'm on team rp5
It's obvious that the RP5 is better in a real world scenario. But this video actually reminded me of how impressive the RP4P actually is! I have the RP4P and I just pre-ordered the Odin2 Portal. So upgrading to the RP5 seems unnecessary at this point.
Slightly larger (but in my opinion worse) screen, performance that is more of a guarantee that everything will run well upscaled (though the RP5 handles most ps2/gc at at least 2x no problem), top joystick location, possibly more comfortable for joystick games (depending on your hands). I didn't bond with the Odin 2 and would rather have this for the OLED screen and smaller size.
I have an RP4P, but now I’m seeing the 5, and I’m jealous of its lack of bezels and OLED display. Does anyone know if there’s a bezel-less touchscreen display on the market that could DIY replace the stock display of the RP4P?
I am very tempted to grab a 5 but there are some big handhelds coming out soon that I'd rather have. The Ayaneo 3 and my Evo that should be shipping eventually. If i grab another android handheld it will likely be an Ayaneo Pocket Micro.
I hear ya, I have an evo and Odin 2 portal both on order and will keep whichever I like better. I guess I’ll see if the 5.5” is enough or the 7” is worth it.
Good topic, I like this. Can you compare the RG556 as well? I know some users are considering selling to get the quality screen and ergonomics we're used to but with better sticks and performance. Unclear how much better that performance really is yet though for what might be an extra $50-$70 plus shipping depending what how much you sell the RG556 for
Excellent video, I ordered the new devicer. but I am confused whether it can run ps5 and Switch smoothly? I don't care about upgrading the resolution, the important thing is that the all games works ?
@bassderek true I only use it for ps1 and PS2 rn and I kinda dip in some vita and 3ds emulation. Outside of some graphical error with mkdd dolphin runs okayish?
So I have the rp4pro and it suffers on high detailed games I was wondering how to you fix resolution cuz I do want to try baldurs gate dark alliance and games like surf up
For some games you may need to drop the resolution multiplier. There are also just some games that unfortunately have poor compatibility with emulation as it stands right now.
I picked up a new in box pocket 4 pro for $140 on fb marketplace today, I was debating getting the pocket 5 but since I already have an odin 2 portal pre-ordered I felt that the price difference was too large for me to justify the rp5 over the deal I got on the 4 pro.
You answered my question with Gran turismo 4 it was laggy on the 4 pro and i see its not any better on the 5 i wont be upgrading how ever the 5 looks amazing along with the screen
People should be aware for switch emulation the retroid pocket 5 is better because you can change the gpu drivers to “turnip drivers” this makes games like breath of the wild playable and fixes major graphical bugs.
I’ve been trying out Mesa 23 Turnip drivers. Those give me the best NES results. If one of you could explain why NBA2K24 plays, but doesn’t show characters that would be great. At the start of tip off during the game when light hits them you can see the character. So I know it’s a graphics issues. When you play the game all the characters are black. Game does play and at a good speed.
Actually, No. everything is almost the same EXCEPT that the Dimensity 1100 have 55% Higher GPU score in GeekBench 6 and 11% in 3DMark Wilf Life performance. Dimensity 1100 is using Valhall 1st gen with 850 MHz GPU frequency with 9 pipelines VS SD865 is using Adreno 600 587 MHz GPU frequency only with 2 pipelines. why is every retro handheld reviewers deliberately exclude this information... like they are paid or sponsored for.... Wait... cause they are....
I can tell you that I paid for this Rp4p with my own money, I’ve preordered an Rp5 with my own money. Do you think I somehow altered the tests in my video? This is real life, I tested them and gave each device the best settings to perform. I don’t care if you keep or buy an RP4P instead.
I totally agree with you, for years everyone knows that the Dimensity 1100 is superior to the 865, even in emulation, the one that really gives battle to the 1100 is the SD 870, and now all these reviewers act as if that information does not exist just to justify a newer console, with less power, but a better screen.
what about PC games? I know, Android consoles are not the best for it, but i wanna know if can play some retro games like Vampire The Masquerade, Fable or Diablo II
The main differences are 2gb more ram in the 5 and Android 13 instead of 10 but I think in practice they’re going to be pretty similar as they have the same chip.
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not much of a leap for an rp4p owner with the systems I want to play and with the anbernic RG/T820-ish prices makes it more enticing that it can push such numbers all the while fitting in my pocket but snapdragon just might be a better move longterm(?)
@@bassderek yeah can only wish coz I don't see the price for such a single purpose device coming down anytime soon and personally wouldn't make much sense past 300. Hopefully more competing products show up by then. Wonky shipping and taxes included :')
Depends on street price, I sill think if buying both at new price it's worth more for the 5, but if you can find a used 4 pro it's potentially a better deal. It's also a larger screen without being a larger device.
Just want to know if 4pro runs kirby games and pokemon well ? That is the max imma go with switch ! Need it more for gba and gamecube and 3ds which i feel shall work fine on rp4
Do you have the RP4 Pro? Are you upgrading? Are you buying the RP5? Let me know!
Pre-ordered the RP5. I only own one Anbernic handheld, and I'm pretty excited about that thing. Great video, ty!
I currently have the RG35XXSP and I have ordered the Retroid Pocket 5.
I'm SUPER keen for this thing to arrive :) It's so much more capable than the SP, and I just keep finding more games that it can play.
I own the rp4 pro...I'm gonna wait till the rp6. I'm sure they will tease it by the middle of next year
@@driftitlikeyouownit same bro, same
I have legion go, now ordered rp5 and pocket evo. This should be great trio :)
excellent comparison. I'm exceedingly happy with my purchase of a secondhand rp4p for $120
For that price it’s an amazing performer!
From where?
@@suhtangwongtry eBay?
@@thatguy00271 love my rp4pro. Arrived two weeks ago, should be more than enough until the rp6 comes out
@@suhtangwongthere's this amazing free website called Google where you can find anything
RP4Pro owner here. It's so small with great power. It's perfect for raw dogging with no case in my pockets for amusement park lines. I have addidas zipper pockets so not worried about it falling out during the ride. I feel like that's the perfect use case, especially since it preserves my phone battery in my other pocket. Any larger and it would probably be uncomfortable 2 devices in my pockets. Plus not super worried if it were to break tbh. I'll probably skip this generation and hope the RP6 is no bigger than the rp5 and still packs AMOLED but with a stronger chip. I just get scared raw dogging devices that approach 250+ with shipping, taxes etc
I don’t really put devices larger than my rg28xx in an actual pocket, and larger ones always get a case. But I can see your point if that is a priority for you!
Bro I’m the same way, portability went a long way for me, I can fit my 4pro in it’s case in my pockets or jacket pockets I skateboard so a lot of my pants are a lil baggy anyways, and even if I’ve got smaller pockets or am usually ju at carrying it around in my pocket I have a 3d printed clip shield, and it’s crazy good fits in my pocket just like a phone and I don’t have to worry ab the sticks or anything in my pockets, I honestly sold my switch cause it wasn’t portable like when I had a 3ds, which I also needs put some of those on my rp4p come to think of it
I just got done this morning adding another 40 or so ps2 games to my alr 70 ps2 game collection, what’s crazy is I do legit play them, and not only that but I’ve had friends and even my dad has started coming over to my house cause we can play so many couch co op games on my big tv and hook multiple controllers easily and I’ve genuinely not had latency or lag, no one’s complained ab it and I haven’t even had slow downs when which surprised me for co op and multiple Bluetooth controllers, and not a single game multiplayer or single player I’ve come across a problem with, if it’s slow or something there’s legit always been a setting to fix it at least so far, is the and being able to just play it on my own in handheld mode I go back and forth between twilight princess on GameCube, ROM hacks like Pokémon unbound or radical red on gba and a ton more.c it’s honestly become my main handheld and home console, I still play my ps4 and will most likely keep playing certain rom hacks and psp/vita games always on my Japan ps vita I modded myself and is what got me into emulation, I’m glad I still use both, and I’m more than happy, I’ll prob stick with the 4 pro for a long time like most likely at least a couple years, I do the same thing with my phones and wait for a big generation leap, rn I’m more than happy and content 🤝
I think the rp5 looks hella beautiful tho and I do like the design cause it reminds me of a more future vita, really excited to see what they come out with next few gens, great video and review btw!
@@redfoot2 rp6 with a redesign or a rpmini+ with a 4 inch screen and quiet buttons. Rp5 doesn't give off any retro vibes imo
@@jinstinky501i would also like to see a mini+. i thought i was the only one, but a 4-4.2in screen would make it so much more useable for me
My total was exactly 299 with DHL shipping, but I also threw in the screen protector, charger, shell, and carrying case too.
Exactly what i was looking for since the RP5 came out. Thanks man!
Glad I could help!
This is an excellent video that shows exactly why synthetic numbers don't always tell the complete story. Awesome work, Derek! 🙏🙏🤗🤗
Retro Tech Dad comment, good way to start the day! 🙌
Great video man, I think people really undersold how much of a difference snapdragon makes.
Yeah for GC it's like night and day. Unfortunately not for PS2 though...but hey you are mostly going to set the resolution to 2.5x most of the time to match the screen so no biggie
4 and 4 Pro on sale right now. Sale started Thanksgiving eve. Just bought a new 4 Pro for the price it sells on the used market.
Sweet thanks❤
the only reason i don't wanna upgrade to the 5 is this
1) If i really want performance, I can spring for the Odin 2 Mini with its 8G2 processor while also having a similar footprint, or go big with the Odin 2. Sure, the jump between D1100 and 865 is decent (especially with Turnip drivers) but it still can't square up fully with 8G2, much less if you're intending to dock and requiring to use higher upscale.
2) most of the games I play on the retroid are Gamecube which is fine to play at 1.5-2x on that small screen. I ain't using a dock to play on my PC monitor or TV where I have to upscale a lot and in turin causing lag etc
3) If I really want best performance for PS2 games, I would just play on PC cuz PCSX2 Exists.
4) the issue now is emulation efficiency on emulator apps on android. Switch is barely on life support with takedowns and PS2 emulator development has stalled for the most part. back to #1 Odin 2 really hit the highest point for android emulation performance already cuz 8G2 is still relatively new while being the same processor as last year's flagship phones like S23 etc.
and lastly the dumbest reason
5) I love the watermelon colour a lot it's a shame the 5 doesn't have much colour options. The watermelon colour definitely adds more spa-zazz and personality than just the black/white/"off white" style colours.
I do wish the watermelon was a thing in the 5! The texture of the plastic is nice in that one, too.
@bassderek hands down. I still wish they kept the translucent purple but eh red is lit ngl.
Between the gc, 16bit and the screen blending effect of the black device, there are already enough color options to make your decision a living hell. I don't need more options, I want less, because I can't decide already :D
@@Watamel0n no way your name is watermelon and not wanting a RP5 watermelon
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Finally a comparison video
I knew this was the case and still ordered an RP5. I'm an OLED Fiend
You and me both, friend.
@bassderek My RG556 had 3 dead pixels, here's hoping Retroid can get it right where Anbernic couldn't.
I got a 4 pro and it's exactly what I needed in a handheld. Anything newer than Wii I'll play on Switch.
Yeah I honestly don’t recommend playing switch on either of these.
Form factor is king for me, I love the design of the 4 Pro. I'm not sold on the look of the RP5. I have an RG556 and it is nice for sitting at home on the couch, but I'd never take it anywhere with me, whereas I rarely go anywhere without the RP4 Pro. It won that spot despite me thinking it was too small a screen for the price for the longest time. Now, if I reach for anything bigger than the RP4 Pro, I'm generally grabbing the Steam Deck.
What I'd have loved is the design of the 4 Pro, with the Snapdragon chip and larger screen (because I'm certain they could have fit a full 5 inch screen - or 4.95 like the TrimUI Smart Pro). That might have made me jump. As it is now, I'll wait to see what the RP6 looks like. I'm sure the RP5 will be a hit and people will love it, but it isn't for me.
Thanks for this comparison though.
Ayyee awesome deep dive man! St00bz
Can't wait for the Retroid Pocket 6 🥰
Me in the nursing home: is the Retroid Pocket 47 out yet?
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@@bassderek I can't wait until the retroid POCKET actually fits into one. With the RP5 they're making us wear Clown Pants.
Probably be out in 3 months
Great video, man. I love the neat wrap up at the end. I'll probably get the 4 pro since I won't be playing switch much. Subscribed.
Thanks! 🙏
This is what I was looking for, thanks for the comparison
Glad I could help and thanks for watching!
No one should buy an android handheld for switch but that OLED looks incredible. Even on UA-cam. Great video!
Yeah I agree, but still nice to see what might run as a bonus.
The switch is an android handheld 🤔
I just bought a RP4P and am currently awaiting its delivery from Retroid. £155 for a brand new RP4P with the bugs ironed out (triggers) was plenty for me to be paying out. I might get hit with customs yet which will probably put me in at £190/£200. If I had bought the 5 I’d be looking around £250/260 at that point I’m starting to look at a steam deck.
Totally fair, it’s still very capable (as shown)!
@ sometimes I feel like I made the wrong choice but hopefully I enjoy it. Nice video by the way. Maybe you could do Dreamcast and Saturn next?
@@sxixlxnx That price difference I honestly can't fault you mate. I'm thinking of getting the 4 Pro myself as it's currently £75 cheaper.
@ I have had mine a couple weeks now and I love it. I got rid of my analogue pocket and have this. Okay it’s emulation vs fpga so hardly a comparison to the purists but with that being said this has all the benefits and no negatives imo. Originally I was sceptical of having an android based system but now I appreciate it. A bit of tinkering and the UI looks great plus we have the google playstore. There’s nothing like playing PS1 in your lunch break and then moving on to Streets Of Rage 4
So good reading these comments after pulling the trigger on the rp4p yesterday. It’s my first handheld and I was shopping for the 5 but the discount on the 4 was just to good for what it can do and what I want to play.
Great comparison with these 2 devices never had the 4 pro but did order the 5😊
I think you’ll like it, I have had a lot of fun with it.
Dude, wth? Only 4 Videos and such great content ??? Where have you been hiding? :D Instant follow!
@@seminmensah Thank you! I did a handful of videos for the Retro handhelds channel first so I got a little bit of practice.
I'm glad u mentioned second hand markets because it matters it's a huge marketplace most ignore
First time android retro handhled buyer here (I have a modded PS Vita). Thank you for that video. I am convinced I can get by with the 4Pro for what I want to play (PS2 mostly). And since I'm on a budget it's even better.
Excited about the Retroid Pocket 6.
4 Pro owner here and bought it well before the 5 and Mini were even announced back in May and frankly I feel perfectly happy with it even after the 5's announcement.
The games that I want to run on it run just fine and if I want to play Switch games, I'll just grab my Steam Deck, so when it comes to handhelds, I'm pretty well covered.
Looking to buy my first retro handheld console and the RP5 has been on my radar. Mostly looking to play GC and PS2 games. Thank you for this comparison.
Bought a 4 pro a few months ago - I normally play outside or at night so the brightness and screen size is such a big improvement for me. Can't wait for my 5 to arrive!
amazing comparison, thanks!
No, thank YOU!
I dunno how I missed this video!
This is great!!! I really like the RP4/Pro for it's price and given the Canadian dollar, it's hard to stomach paying over $300 for the RP5. For 720p GC, this is fine and it's more compact, I still like my RP3+ and it's basically the same size.
Switch is a huge diff! Wow. Great comparison, man. I really dunno how I missed this.
Might wait and save up for the RP5 tbh. The RP5 is the best choice bang for buck etc. But that price in Canadian, man! $317cad without shipping.
I'm in no rush really, already got an Odin 1 base and I stream everything from my pc using Moonlight, it's perfect for me, no matter where I am. lol. Speaking of streaming, that would be something to test in the future. ;) How high of a resolution they can go! heh.
Great work, buddy. 👍
Oh thank the lord. I've been waiting for a comparison between the 2
I've been waiting to do it!
Great job on this review. Very well put together
Thanks for the feedback!
Subscribed, keep up the good work, people will recognise the quality of your videos
Thank you, I appreciate it!
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Some Android gaming would have been nice to see a comparison on but this was great to see how things really stack up on emulation! Thanks!
Thanks! I find Android games a bit harder to measure but I will try to figure out a meaningful comparison there.
The pure black bars on the sides are just beautiful. 😍
They really are. The 16:9 screen doesn’t bother me at all for retro content
Nice comparison! Very good for deciding between them.
Thanks, glad I can help people out!
I have a R4 Pro. It is a totally luxury purchase for me. The slight performance bump is really not good enough to have an upgrade. Retroid upgrades their products all the time. I just really want the screen.
Definitely the screen is the biggest reason to consider but it’s good not to always buy the next thing… there will always be something better.
ive been really looking into an affordable ps2 emulator thats reliable so its good to see the rp4 do a decent job, considering copping
Спасибо за обзор, за детальное и четкое описание происходящего, все очень доходчиво и понятно. Побольше бы блогеров, которые по существу показывают и рассказывают, ставлю лайк и подписку 👍😊
Вопрос: будет ли обзор на retroid pocket 5 pro? И когда примерно ожидать выход улучшенной версии?
I have no idea if and when a Retroid Pocket 5 Pro will be released, sorry!
Thank you for this awesome comparison review 🙌
Glad you liked it!
Great comparison. Thanks!
Nice video, Derek! 🍻
Thanks!
Just the video I was looking for. Have an RP4 Pro and mostly play PS2, doesn't really seem worth it just for that, but the screen would be the main upgrade unless you're playing a lot of GC.
I agree, the screen is the biggest differentiator.
really good and useful comparison video, maybe a separate video for android games? wild rift and cod etc.
I always wanted 1 of those retro emulation handhelds because the screen looks great and you can play on a tv. I might buy 1 soon.
Thank you so much for making a comparison video between the 2! I bought a 4 pro when it came out and wanted to see if it was worth upgrading. I dont emulate anything past 6th generation and i never upscale anything so the 4 pro is good enough for me it seems
Glad I could help, save the money for now!
Excellent video!
Subbed.
Thank you so much!
Excellent video
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Very useful, thx! I have a rp4 pro and play a LOT with AR glasses so the rp5 screen, while nice, is not a major factor for me. I think I'll wait for the rp6 or just get an odin 2.
Yeah if you’re using another display depending on what you play the upgrade may not be worth it.
I've got a rp2s, which has been great at what it does. But it's time to consider upgrading. I was a little hesitant on the rp5 over the rp4pro. Whether it's worth it to go straight to the 5 but it's seems now like a no-brainer.
Awesome! Great detail and information here. There is simply no reason to choose the RP4 over the RP5 (if you can afford it)
Nice review. Subbed :)
You are appreciated!
Thanks for that comparison, top notch!
For me, though - if I wanted Switch gaming I'd just use my Switch Lite. This is Retro handheld first and foremost, and Android gaming second. RP4 Pro is more than enough for this task
Switch even on the most powerful android device can still be frustrating/mediocre.
Almost bought this, but ordered the Odin Pro instead as I mostly need a machine to get my daughter off my Steam Deck for playing Minecraft, and she prefers stick on top.
I only play ps2 games on my rp4 pro (nfs underground 2) and android games, so I am absolutely find with performance:)) waiting for retroid flip 2
So play Android Games on RP4P does have great performance? I really want to buy this handheld just to play some Android Games tho, especially Efootball😂
@@Bootstrap3T2 I used to play warzone mobile, but it no longer supports:/ and I also noticed that some old android games have reflections/lightning issues on 2010-2015 games
@@kamranmammadli5850 sad that it don't support warzone
I’d like to see a comparison like this with the RG Cube vs RP Mini 🤔🎮
I don’t actually have a cube, but that’s a good idea to show the difference between the T820 and SD865. Maybe if/when an rg406h arrives.
I'm still picking the RP5, the 865 chipset + turnip drivers = win.
Thats good to know. The 4 pro is more affordable so thats great news!
How do you only have 92 subs?!
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This tbh
You flatter me! I just started a week ago. I spent a few months doing some videos as part of another channel before deciding to go solo.
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The Snapdragon chip needs to be 888 or higher to achieve a stable 60 frames. That's why I'm looking forward to the Retroid Pocket 6 with the 888 chip.
For what, switch? It really depends on the game. The 865 is plenty for 60fps on GameCube and ps2 for most games.
thank you this helps!
Glad I could help!
Great comparison. I'm not a fan of the rp4 and my thoughts are that if it needs a grip to be comfortable to use, the grip may as well be part of the device and so I'm on team rp5
Yeah I’m usually not a huge fan of adding grips. To be fair the RP5 still has room for ergonomic improvement when using both sticks though.
@bassderek fair only so much can be done when the sticks are both at the bottom I guess
It's obvious that the RP5 is better in a real world scenario. But this video actually reminded me of how impressive the RP4P actually is! I have the RP4P and I just pre-ordered the Odin2 Portal. So upgrading to the RP5 seems unnecessary at this point.
I have a portal coming also. And yeah, maybe if I saved you some money, glad to help haha!
I haven’t been able to decide since the RP2 😅
Hey, maybe better not too fall in the pit of consumerism like some of us 😅
Thanks
Putting the switch emulation aside, would in you opinion make any sense picking an odin 2 pro over the rp5?
Slightly larger (but in my opinion worse) screen, performance that is more of a guarantee that everything will run well upscaled (though the RP5 handles most ps2/gc at at least 2x no problem), top joystick location, possibly more comfortable for joystick games (depending on your hands). I didn't bond with the Odin 2 and would rather have this for the OLED screen and smaller size.
Whopping £75 difference here in the UK makes me tempted to just go for the Retroid 4 Pro instead 😅
New comer so Rp5 no doubt
I think I'm going to wait for a RP5 Pro for now... I'm happy with my 4 Pro as it is.
I don't think there will be a 5 Pro, but a 6 in a year... probably. If you're happy with the 4 Pro, save the cash!
Nice compare
[5.5" 1080p OLED] vs [4.7" 1334x750 IPS] If you don't have either, the screen alone makes it worth paying the extra $35
For someone who doesn't already have a handheld in this size class, yeah at new price I'd definitely say go RP5.
I have an RP4P, but now I’m seeing the 5, and I’m jealous of its lack of bezels and OLED display. Does anyone know if there’s a bezel-less touchscreen display on the market that could DIY replace the stock display of the RP4P?
Not that I'm aware of. But really, you don't have to fall into the FOMO!
I am very tempted to grab a 5 but there are some big handhelds coming out soon that I'd rather have. The Ayaneo 3 and my Evo that should be shipping eventually. If i grab another android handheld it will likely be an Ayaneo Pocket Micro.
I hear ya, I have an evo and Odin 2 portal both on order and will keep whichever I like better. I guess I’ll see if the 5.5” is enough or the 7” is worth it.
Good topic, I like this. Can you compare the RG556 as well? I know some users are considering selling to get the quality screen and ergonomics we're used to but with better sticks and performance. Unclear how much better that performance really is yet though for what might be an extra $50-$70 plus shipping depending what how much you sell the RG556 for
I don’t currently have a 556 but will see if ii can get one.
@@bassderek thanks for even considering, appreciated
Like my rp4 pro ,wont change for a while yet it does ps2 and Game Cube really well
Keep on Keepin' On!
NBA street vol 2 is critical Derek
Duly noted 🫡
Excellent video, I ordered the new devicer. but I am confused whether it can run ps5 and Switch smoothly? I don't care about upgrading the resolution, the important thing is that the all games works ?
Bro ps5?
2nd switch games will work. Heavier ones won't.
@@harshrajjadhav940 sorry ps2
Switch is still very hit and miss, I wouldn’t buy it if that was your main purpose. PS2 runs just fine (PS5 most certainly does not run lol).
@ thanks.. sorry I meant ps2
Yeah I’m gonna get the RP5 regardless
Do the RP5 and the RP mini have the same specs ?
They have the same CPU/GPU. The 5 has 2gb more ram and higher res display, but otherwise they are the same, yes.
Did you use turnip drivers on the 5?
I probably should have mentioned, I tried them but in most cases they did not help or made it crash.
I got my rp4 pro back in august right before rp5 and mini was announced-
It’s still a good handheld!
@bassderek true I only use it for ps1 and PS2 rn and I kinda dip in some vita and 3ds emulation. Outside of some graphical error with mkdd dolphin runs okayish?
I guess I'm going to stick with the 4 pro since I've been using it mainly for the ps2 anyways.
For sure, if you are happy with the device size and screen, no big reason to upgrade.
So I have the rp4pro and it suffers on high detailed games I was wondering how to you fix resolution cuz I do want to try baldurs gate dark alliance and games like surf up
For some games you may need to drop the resolution multiplier. There are also just some games that unfortunately have poor compatibility with emulation as it stands right now.
@ ah so for your rp4pro you didn’t have baldurs dark alliance
that screen on the 5!
Yeah, my thoughts. Might be the best screen in a handheld I’ve used yet (that’s under 7” anyway).
Out run 2006 is a very difficult game to emulate on every single version released.
I’ll make a note for future tests!
I picked up a new in box pocket 4 pro for $140 on fb marketplace today, I was debating getting the pocket 5 but since I already have an odin 2 portal pre-ordered I felt that the price difference was too large for me to justify the rp5 over the deal I got on the 4 pro.
The portal will be even more capable so not a bad combo! Good price on the RP4.
@ I figured the perfect combo of having a more portable device and a powerhouse for more at home use!
Go for the rp5. Thank me later.
You answered my question with Gran turismo 4 it was laggy on the 4 pro and i see its not any better on the 5 i wont be upgrading how ever the 5 looks amazing along with the screen
The screen is definitely the best feature
People should be aware for switch emulation the retroid pocket 5 is better because you can change the gpu drivers to “turnip drivers” this makes games like breath of the wild playable and fixes major graphical bugs.
I had mixed results in my testing with turnip, but will need to dive deeper once I get my retail rp5.
I’ve been trying out Mesa 23 Turnip drivers. Those give me the best NES results. If one of you could explain why NBA2K24 plays, but doesn’t show characters that would be great. At the start of tip off during the game when light hits them you can see the character. So I know it’s a graphics issues. When you play the game all the characters are black. Game does play and at a good speed.
Are you using ES-DE for the launcher? 👀👀
I am! It’s my favorite launcher at the moment.
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Been considering the rp5 or rpMini. Currently have rp4pro & rgCube…this video helps tremendously. Thanks 😊
@@jqwearyFWIW, the RP5 brings me more joy than the RP Mini, personally.
Actually, No. everything is almost the same EXCEPT that the Dimensity 1100 have 55% Higher GPU score in GeekBench 6 and 11% in 3DMark Wilf Life performance.
Dimensity 1100 is using Valhall 1st gen with 850 MHz GPU frequency with 9 pipelines
VS
SD865 is using Adreno 600 587 MHz GPU frequency only with 2 pipelines.
why is every retro handheld reviewers deliberately exclude this information... like they are paid or sponsored for....
Wait... cause they are....
I can tell you that I paid for this Rp4p with my own money, I’ve preordered an Rp5 with my own money. Do you think I somehow altered the tests in my video? This is real life, I tested them and gave each device the best settings to perform. I don’t care if you keep or buy an RP4P instead.
I totally agree with you, for years everyone knows that the Dimensity 1100 is superior to the 865, even in emulation, the one that really gives battle to the 1100 is the SD 870, and now all these reviewers act as if that information does not exist just to justify a newer console, with less power, but a better screen.
what about PC games? I know, Android consoles are not the best for it, but i wanna know if can play some retro games like Vampire The Masquerade, Fable or Diablo II
It should be able to, Retro Tech Dad has a great video showcasing Winlator on the RP Mini (same chip).
RP4pro and RP5 can connect Wi-Fi playing Game together? Thanks
Depends on the emulator but if they are on the same WiFi network it should be possible.
What about RP Mini and RP5 any noticeable difference?
The main differences are 2gb more ram in the 5 and Android 13 instead of 10 but I think in practice they’re going to be pretty similar as they have the same chip.
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Running a Snapdragon 865 chip...
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not much of a leap for an rp4p owner with the systems I want to play and with the anbernic RG/T820-ish prices makes it more enticing that it can push such numbers all the while fitting in my pocket but snapdragon just might be a better move longterm(?)
Maybe wait for a device with 8g2 if you want something more powerful longer term? But who knows if we will ever see a $220 device with that chip.
@@bassderek yeah can only wish coz I don't see the price for such a single purpose device coming down anytime soon and personally wouldn't make much sense past 300. Hopefully more competing products show up by then. Wonky shipping and taxes included :')
The 4 Pro is by far the better deal atm. Unless you get sucked into OLED
Depends on street price, I sill think if buying both at new price it's worth more for the 5, but if you can find a used 4 pro it's potentially a better deal. It's also a larger screen without being a larger device.
Just want to know if 4pro runs kirby games and pokemon well ? That is the max imma go with switch ! Need it more for gba and gamecube and 3ds which i feel shall work fine on rp4
Pokémon for switch might be hit and miss on the 4 pro not sure. I don’t have it in hand right now, sorry!
Do you need a PC to add games?
It helps, but you can download them using WiFi on the device.
@ so the pocket four and five you can download off of Wi-Fi
It'd be nice if they would actually ship the RP5 to the rest of us already, I'm sick of waiting.
Shipments started today, I just got notice for my retail unit.
what frontend is that?
ES-DE
Can the r5 run LOZ BOTW 2 ?
Not smoothly, no.