What Harley Dealers Don't Want You To Know | Hidden In Plain Sight!

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  • What Harley Dealers Don't Want You To Know | Hidden In Plain Sight!
    The research will reveal many interesting items. I spent some time digging in and researching. Harley-Davidson Corporate has directives for dealers, but no one will tell you if you don't ask. I want to hear what your feelings are about Harley Finance in the comments below.
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  • @2wheeledrocket92
    @2wheeledrocket92 10 місяців тому +10

    I had a dealer who tried to charge me a destination charge for a used bike that was traded in at that dealership. The finance manager skipped over that line. I assume he thought I wouldn’t catch it. It was an $895 charge. He stumbled over his words when I called him out on it. I walked away from the deal. I couldn’t trust them and I let them know that’s why I did not and would not purchase any motorcycle from them. Please be careful before signing any papers.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +4

      Yes, you have to be careful before signing your life away. Ride Safe

    • @TREEHUGGAH1
      @TREEHUGGAH1 10 місяців тому +2

      smart man right here. much respect

  • @iiFuture
    @iiFuture 10 місяців тому +4

    Recently went to a Harley dealership to look for my first Harley. Not a single bike had a price tag on it and after running the “numbers” they wanted $25k for a used 2021 Fat Bob. I walked out the door and said you won’t be seeing me again.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      They all need price tags. Ride Safe

  • @Petesmotoadventure
    @Petesmotoadventure 10 місяців тому +6

    The only price you should ever discuss when buying a car or motorcycle is what is the cost out the door. End of story. When they tell you well you must have a budget in mind, You repeat I only want to know the out the door price. If they ask you if you are going to trade your current bike say you are unsure. Once you have a written out the door price then talk trade. They are 2 different transactions. If they wont give you an out the door price walk away. I went to 3 different dealers for my Pan America the one that gave me the lowest out the door price is where I bought the bike.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      Great advice. That is all I am asking for now. Ride Safe

  • @PaulsMotoZen
    @PaulsMotoZen 10 місяців тому +2

    Remember when people USED TO SAVE their money for the things they wanted?
    Now people would rather go into debt for the item they want NOW, rather than saving.
    Thanks for the insightful information. I ride a Honda, but the information does pretty much sum up all dealerships.
    Take care, ride safe.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      You are correct. I need to save to buy my next motorcycle Interest rates are through the roof! Ride Safe

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      I agree that all dealers work the same. Saving my money to buy something new later might be the way I go. Interest rates are through the roof! Ride Safe

    • @jesstreloar7706
      @jesstreloar7706 10 місяців тому

      I saved up my money for my 78 KZ1000. I actually had a cashiers check for 3500$ made out to the dealer. They started the regular speal, when I showed them the check and asked if I should get it made out to a different shop? It was wonderful watching the floor guy and manager falling all over themselves to get me out the door. Everyone should do this once in their life.

  • @RoadReality
    @RoadReality 10 місяців тому +2

    LOL, I have for MANY years, only negotiated the OTD price! It lets the financing people get real creative trying to hit your number... not breaking-the-law creative, but just... creative. Great video, Jack!

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +2

      That will be my next go-around with any dealer. Ride Safe

  • @bigrobpierce3804
    @bigrobpierce3804 10 місяців тому +1

    It really is amazing how the prices vary dealer to dealer when I bought my CVO in 2019 ,one dealer wanted over 10k over msrp. so shop around before you buy. Thanks HDR for the advice.

  • @TREEHUGGAH1
    @TREEHUGGAH1 10 місяців тому

    thank you for sharing the info. much respect

  • @BoDean52
    @BoDean52 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video advice Jack. My only advice is never ever talk about payment amount, always about out the door. Liking Jesse garage talks

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      Thanks, brother! I am learning a lot from these comments about OTD pricing. I don't particularly appreciate sitting and looking at numbers for hours. Ride Safe

  • @fourftr
    @fourftr 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video HDR. I have over 45 thousand miles on my 2017 Road Glide Ultra. Everybody tells me trade it in before 50 thousand. So when the 2024 Harleys come out the plan is to trade it in. This video shed some great tips.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +2

      Don’t let people talk you into a new bike based on mileage. The M8 will get you 200,000 miles or more. Buy new when you want to. I am glad I can help. Ride Safe

  • @NonaMaryGrace1952
    @NonaMaryGrace1952 10 місяців тому +1

    Hello Jack I actually enjoy this type of video. It is informative and educational. 💕NonnaGrace 🐓

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      Thank you. I am glad they are helping. Ride Safe

  • @markohd1075
    @markohd1075 10 місяців тому

    Interesting video. People need to remember to make sure you have disposable savings to buy a toy. Face it, Harleys are big boy toys. If you need to say you can only afford a certain monthly payment, then you should not be buying a Harley. Keep in mind of the Harley Tax. The additional money most spend to customize their bikes. I have a 2018 Street glide that I bought parts and accessories via Amazon and EBay and saved least 50 to 70% off. Buy and spend wisely,

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      That is a good point, but people must fit the bike into their budget. Most people can afford anything but also have to worry about eating. I also shop for parts wherever I can get a deal. But beware, sometimes the unknown is not a quality product. Ride Safe

  • @GoofyBastard
    @GoofyBastard 10 місяців тому +1

    I understand that dealerships have to make money, but cmon some of these charges are outrageous. You’re right, best option is to go in there with outside financing.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      I found that it worked better for me when I bought the Himalayan. No hidden fees. Ride Safe

  • @RafaelJimenez-hz9gu
    @RafaelJimenez-hz9gu 10 місяців тому

    Sir great great video.
    I always come in with my own financing and i state after doing my homework what I want to pay out the door.
    I never never buy new anymore never!
    And if I do not get what I want
    I walk out, yup out the door I go. Many many times I get the call or get stopped to return. Aka I leave my emotion outside.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      You do not get emotional over a machine. All Harleys are the same at every dealer. We have the buyer option to walk away from the steal, I mean deal. Ride Safe

  • @painsrides3616
    @painsrides3616 10 місяців тому +1

    Since I've been recently bike shopping and I find vehicle dealers sleezy, period, its true that HD dealers seems to be more so... I realize there's taxes, title and registration costs when buying a vehicle, this I expect, and plan into what I have to pay. What galls me is seeing a price tag on an HD motorcycle of say; $24,999 but somehow magically the OTD cost is more to the tune of $27,500 and beyond + the taxes, title & reg. 🤬 Not only that, but HD prices(new or used) are many times higher than other brands, yet you get the least for your money. Buying an HD would feel like I'm paying top dollar for a platform to build a motorcycle on....

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      Everyone talks about resale value. You got the resale value you wanted from the VIC. I normally don't buy something, thinking I will be selling it again. Ride Safe

    • @painsrides3616
      @painsrides3616 10 місяців тому +1

      @@HarleyDayRider .. I bought the Vic to ride it which I most certainly did 😎 Sold it broken, 10 years later with 78k miles on the clock for $9.5k less than I paid for it. I don't know about resale but I damn well got my money's worth 😉

  • @MinnowMoto
    @MinnowMoto 10 місяців тому +1

    With good credit Eagle Finance was very competative. My only complaint was why did they try to default me to a 7 year loan. When I told them I wanted 5 the Apr dropped almost 3%. They did seem to want me to go to the Parts Dept and shop though the catalong. They were like you can finance whatever you want. lol Thats a trap. They sell the bikes at MSRP with non of those other fees so I did humor them .

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      I did finance mine for 7 incase of hard times. Lucky for me I paid it off in 5 and saved a load of money. Ride Safe

  • @MrG-ce6tb
    @MrG-ce6tb 10 місяців тому

    👍👍 great video. Good information. Catch you later brother.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video. Ride Safe

  • @TennRides
    @TennRides 10 місяців тому

    Yeah, too many of the HD dealerships love to play games and milk the customer for every penny they can suck out of you. I finally got over the bad taste left in my mouth from my Electra-glide I bought used back in...if memory serves me correctly...1979 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough in early 1981. Under AMF (the bowling ball company that dang near made Harley a thing of the past), many of the bikes were crap! I literally had parts fall off that thing, and it spent more time in the shop than all of my other bikes before, or after it did. A few years back, after seeing so many of my friends that ride HDs that also ride a LOT and not have issues, I considered giving Harley another shot again. The local dealer, which I have since heard a LOT of bad things about, wouldn't post the new bike prices, or even tell me them unless I was going to sit down and start paperwork!!! The prices on their used bikes, from what friends in other states have told me, was what the other dealerships charged for brand new bikes. Man, why do they have to play games with the customers? Sorry for the book. I meant to come on here and say it was great seeing all y'all at VAMM23 and we're looking forward to seeing you again July 11-13 for VAMM24. Ride safe, Jack. Hi to Mary.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      It is good to get it out, man. Always nice riding and seeing you. I am sure we will be back next year. Ride Safe

  • @bobnelson2499
    @bobnelson2499 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video Jack. I never offer what I want to pay, I just want to know the out the door price. LOL, I'm old and I don't have time for the price match game. ... Bob

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      I hate that back-and-forth. Since doing these videos, I have learned a lot from the buyer like you. Thanks for the feedback. Ride Safe

  • @raygregoryride
    @raygregoryride 10 місяців тому

    That's why I will never buy a another new bike or a uesd one from a dealer great video my friend

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I wish I knew enough about bikes to by one privately. Ride Safe

  • @HDR20
    @HDR20 10 місяців тому +1

    I have never paid freight or prep on any bike and will refuse to. I have argued these two fees with dealers multiple times. I worked for Chrysler dealerships for years and know for a fact they get reimbursed for prep.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      I am glad I could bring it to people's attention. I never even knew this fact. Ride Safe

  • @Crimepaysaskapolitician
    @Crimepaysaskapolitician 10 місяців тому

    They have to handle deliver un box and make ready to sell the motorcycle in the first place. But the buyer has to pay for those things. Sweet deal.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      I hear what you are saying. But Harley Corporate reimburses the dealer for all prep. Ride Safe

  • @northbysoutheast5439
    @northbysoutheast5439 10 місяців тому +1

    Car, truck and motorcycle dealerships have been raising financing interest rates 1% or more forever to get a kickback from the banks.

    • @bondobilly9369
      @bondobilly9369 10 місяців тому

      That's why I paid off a 35k diesel in 13 months. F making the dealer even more money.

    • @Tryke_Ryder
      @Tryke_Ryder 10 місяців тому

      The dealer of my Ram even admitted it outright “Yes, it’s well known we get ‘incentives’ from the bank.”

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      It shows banks are for big business, not the working class person. Ride Safe

  • @dk260
    @dk260 10 місяців тому

    I live close enough to York, PA, can I just pick mine up there to avoid all the freight and shipping charges?

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      That would be great. They are not allowed to sell directly to the customers. Ride Safe

  • @GH-cp9wc
    @GH-cp9wc 10 місяців тому

    LOL! I checked with PPG and the paint for other colors does not cost more than Black!

  • @bobberguy1
    @bobberguy1 10 місяців тому +1

    I'd rather have a root canal than haggle with a salesperson. Out the door price or I'm walking out the door never to return.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      This should be what they want to do. I guess sales people get paid by the hour. Ride Safe

  • @northbysoutheast5439
    @northbysoutheast5439 10 місяців тому

    This is why I’ll not go out and buy a new bike right now.
    We live in Georgia and my HD dealership is in Corbin Kentucky. 🤷‍♂️

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      I hope they will lower the interest rates. How does raising the interest rates help the economy? Ride Safe

  • @brucesmith7858
    @brucesmith7858 7 місяців тому

    Where on the web site did you find this info ??? TY

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  7 місяців тому

      This is from me visiting a local dealer and many others. Ride Safe

  • @MrApiiinr
    @MrApiiinr 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for convincing me to firmly give up on ever getting another motorcycle again, never mind a Harley.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      I just wanted to share some facts. I feel the same way. Ride Safe

  • @deandavis3090
    @deandavis3090 10 місяців тому

    HD does NOT own the semi trucks that deliver the bikes to the dealers. They contract with different companies.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      Why do the trailers have Harley Davidson on the sides? Or are these only the demo trucks? Thanks for the information. Ride Safe

  • @dnice4431
    @dnice4431 10 місяців тому +1

    Ok first you are wrong about asking for an out the door price. Dead wrong. I bought my street glide special in 2020. I said I wanted the out the door price tag on the bike. Got it for 25500 plus 500 dealer fees. Total. 26k. I was good with that. Then I wanted to know my trades. They did great and gave me 12500 for my trades. Step 3 I told them I was already pre approved for the sale at my bank for 4% so they could meet that and I would go with their bank or I'll bring a check and done deal. They matched and I was more than happy with a sub 250 a month payment. I got the out the door price and then allowed them to match my bank. If you do your homework prior to shopping. You are a much more powerful buyer.

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      So you did ask for the out-the-door price. I need to do this. I get tired of sitting for hours running numbers. You got a good deal. Ride Safe

    • @dnice4431
      @dnice4431 10 місяців тому +1

      @HarleyDayRider when I shop for any vehichle I get pre approved for a loan in the full amount I am willing to pay for said vehichle from my credit union. Now I know what the best percent loan I can get and what I can borrow. That's 0 down and I always put money or a trade down. So when I go to the dealer I say I don't care what you have to say or how much you like me. What is your best price out the door. If they won't talk to me in terms I want I get up and leave. I emailed 23 harley dealers in the same email so they all knew who I emailed and said best deal wins. I'll travel 2 states over if it means there's a thousand dollars or more to be saved.

    • @GH-cp9wc
      @GH-cp9wc 10 місяців тому

      Great deal! Your Dealer is what is referred to as a "Unicorn", since it is VERY unusual for an HD Dealer to sell a popular model below MSRP, let alone without significant added fees.

    • @dnice4431
      @dnice4431 10 місяців тому

      @GH-cp9wc well the below msrp part was due to covid I believe. I bought at the very beginning when they were terrified no one was gonna buy. I took full advantage.

  • @Viper6-MotoVlogger
    @Viper6-MotoVlogger 10 місяців тому

    That’s why people call them stealerships. Ride safe.

  • @ken2tou
    @ken2tou 10 місяців тому

    I use a credit union.

  • @rickybobby6760
    @rickybobby6760 10 місяців тому +1

    Why aren't you talking while riding?

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому +1

      To be honest I can’t keep track of my research while on the bike. I’m glad you enjoy the riding videos. I have a lot of those also. Ride Safe

    • @rickybobby6760
      @rickybobby6760 10 місяців тому

      @@HarleyDayRider It's my ride substitute for when I can't :-)

    • @HarleyDayRider
      @HarleyDayRider  10 місяців тому

      @@rickybobby6760 Thanks for letting me know my friend. I will have more ride videos coming.