The tarnished are the army of the first Elden Lord Godfrey. After Godfrey conquered every possible enemy for the Order Queen Marika viewed Godfrey and his army as a threat, so she cursed them as tarnished, removed their grace and banished them.
@@KingDerek58 She was heavily monitored by the Greater Will. If she wants to send a secret army to protect her after she shatters the ring, this is likely the only way.
I've played 287 hours. So far, this is what I've found out. The Tarnished are considered by Marika as useless and therefore unfit for grace. Are they dead? In a way, yes. But they're also alive. Like people stuck between life and death.
The elden ring, is a ring made up of a vast number of runes. The elden ring was held by the elden lord who ruled over all and kept thing in order. Someone stole a piece of it, causing it to shatter and split apart every thing.
It’s really cool to see this game bringing so many fresh faces to the souls series. Reading people’s comments about how hard the bosses are and how hidden the lore is makes me feel like I’m playing demons’ souls for the first time. Good stuff!
@@noobmaster1368 at the end I rushed through it for the story and to learn more about how the game works like incantations summons weapons etc but I’ll probably make a new character for a new play through and take my time beating every boss by myself
My theory: the tarnished are warriors, mage's & others who serve/fought for godfrey and when he was banished and had his grace taken they suffered the same fate as him or just chose to leave with him.
@@xploregasmGodfrey sees that you kill his son Morgott and he doesnt know what "ending" you choose Maybe both want the Age of Order or True Order Or maybe you want another "god" rune to MELT with Marika
Because if you were 1 foot taller the crucible knight at volcano manor would think your gonna steal his job of being the one tall dude there also because your hit box will also become bigger making those Damm imps even more difficult to kill
So from the opening cinematic I would assume that "ALL" Tarnished have been technically "DEAD" this entire time until Grace blessed them once more. However other Tarnished speak of lives beyond the fog. So which is it, are all the Tarnished just dead brought back to true life?? Or maybe, given the saying is "Cross the Fog" does this mean those who have been claimed Tarnished float in non-existence?? Are the Tarnished souls that have been cast out of existence entirely until Grace decided to bring their souls back from the void of oblivion??
Bit late but I've been thinking about it, so I do believe that alot of the tarnished we see now are descendants of Godfreys original army that sailed beyond the fog and died in those far off lands. Or they are descendants of/currently are ones that were banished more recently beyond the fog and died only to be called back to the lands between and revived by grace. The majority of tarnished revived and called back in the beginning from beyond the fog are great and good contenders for the throne. But it seems like as these tarnished lost motivation, faith or just took too long so the greater will started to call nonamed tarnished out of desperation. Eg: bogart, Rodrika, the player character. Just as a final desperate bid for elden Lord. But I do believe that beyond the fog is a physical tangible land where thousands of tarnished lived died and fought after being banished. I did read alot of item descriptions and I know for a fact that they did physically sail away in boats when banished and stripped of their grace, due to a weapon that is literally an anchor of one of those ships. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense lol
death isn’t really a thing in elden ring, something about a black dagger idk much but it could be something like that, like they’re physically dead but not fully actually dead and can still somehow come back ?
@@taurine5561 I always feel like the tarnished of norenown was more of a straight up nuclear option by the greater will then anything else just basically going fuck it and unleashing the tarnished of no renown
I like to think that the Tarnished are those who didn't accept the way things were that's why they were excited. But now that everything is falling apart they are the only hope for salvation. "You threw us out of our home. Exiled us, treated us like beasts and forgot us. And now, now that the world is crumbling, now that darkness spreads and gold turns to ash, now you call for us?" That's just what I like to think
This is completely normal mate lol. My advice would be; listen to the NPC dialogue, read the item descriptions, and take note of the environment. The beauty of From's games is that the story and themes are as much a product of your own interpretation as anything else.
@@Vigilo. I can play any game at any time. I just don’t play stupid games. This isn’t even a real next gen game, it’s bloated, boring, grind fest, and thoroughly not enjoyable
So is the tarnished immortal or not? I know in souls games the chosen undead basically is but there's things that happen in elden ring that suggest tarnished are not. Aside coming back to life after every death there are some inconsistencies as we see other tarnished die or are afraid of dying. For example the volcano manor whole assassates tarnished and Rykard tries to make you one with him. Then there's Godrick who apparently grafts tarnished. It seems like tarnished die all the time except you as the protag.
The content is nice but you need to vary your intonation of the words and phrases. It quickly became so repetative that the phrase intonation was the only thing i heard. The phrase "melody" is reused in every sentance if you know what i mean. Stopped me from listning to the finish sadly. Might be a me thing but thought you might want to know and perhaps work on it in future vids. Best of luck!
The thing that most bother me is why does everyone hate us that much? Only a few people don't attack us tarnished right away, but most of them either try to kill us or flee Hell, even in Stormveil, the soldiers fought an inside demi-human rebellion, and when you come here they almost side up against you Why? Your version of "back-up godly warriors" would make sense if anyone wouldn't try to kill us at sight, and the "banned by Markika with Godfrey" doesn't seem to be enough either. Some could feel threatened, but I felt like it was targeted by a public genocide, that it was normal and encouraged to hate and kill tarnished.
There's definitely something to be said for a more straightforward take on Elden Ring's lore, and I like how you use examples from real world (excommunication) and mythology (Valhalla) to get your points across. Not everything has to be a Vaati deep dive and as someone who's trying to remain spoiler free the two vids you've done so far are great. Keep it up.
I've seen like 4-5 videos about elden Ring's story. I'm trying to find out what the hell is going on with the least amount of spoilers possible. Instead of making a simple and an understandable video, creators are trying to immerse me in the story. But I just don't understand the story !!
That is because nothing about the souls series and the stories within them are simple. Even within the game itself, there are characters within it that do not understand the world around them and may even give the player false/contradictory information, much like a teacher in primary school can direct their students with false or "personalized" information while believing it to be true. In a more basic sense, even our own history is retold, assumed, and twisted over time with different minds adding or subtracting new bits of information. The best example of this in the game is Gideon the "All Knowing", as he proclaims- even he is blind to some of the happenings within the story that we (the tarnished) experience. It's hard to explain the entirety of any story without first backtracking and going over all of the information available to build a better understanding. It's also hard to simply say "this is what is happening and why" in a short video, and especially one without spoilers attached. The truth is, the shorter the explanation, the more questions you will have anyway- at least with subject matter like Elden Ring. If you haven't beaten the game by now, spend time reading the texts the game gives you, look at the items you loot and their descriptions, learn and listen to the characters you defeat/befriend. Every enemy you encounter has a story to tell when it comes to Elden Ring. It's a part of the beauty of this game. It may not seem like it but the story is not as convoluted as it appears, it just takes time to study all of what is in front of you (or, just watch some lore videos)!
I’ve spent over 30 hours playing Elden ring now and I’ve started to understand a little bit about what’s going on. You have to really find certain characters to understand tidbits here and there and also understand the areas you’re in. Like “what am I fighting?” “Why are these knights here?” The names of the items they’re dropping. Like the godrick knights etc. it all slowly unravels as you get into the game. You just have to listen to what characters tell you and what snippets you find. It makes sense
i think it seems something like, the god queen's kingdom fell apart during the long night or whatever and each of her councilors took a piece of the ring to create their own petty kingdoms... but if tarnished are outsiders, why would we want to recreate the kingdoms?
@@adamvifrye2690 I feel like we might be presented with a choice (similar to giving the fire keeper her eyes) to either continue following what we have been doing or decide to go against the grace
@@adamvifrye2690 that is the point. You were driven out, now you are back. There are multiple endings all leading around do you take revenge, do you restore order or begin anew basically.
I see some people making complaints about recycled enemies but they don't realize they have lore reasons for every enemy placement. I think the only enemy I was like "okay how are there this many of you" was the Leo misbegotten
"Elden Ring STORY Explained" I saw this title expecting to have the story explained not a bunch of theory. The way you presented your infos made things confusing, I coukdnt tell which were actual "facts" from the lore and which were your own theories. I just wanted the lore explained or at least specify in the title that this was theories and not the actual lore of the game
The only person who could provide this for you is the game director, Hidetaka Miazaki. And he's very cagey regarding any "definitive" version, he designs his story and its themes with interpretation in mind. In short any facts are going to be strung together with conjecture and interpretation. Vaatividya has made a career piggybacking off interpreting From's lore, and while he doesn't have a definitive answer to anything his channel might be more what you were looking for.
Considering your world and other worlds are invaded, even by NPCs, I think each tarnished is operating within their universe where they are the hero of their story. Hence why ever NPC who invaded seems to be surprised when they lose.
Im still think the idea of Tarnish and the Grace Teleports are just lazy Dark Souls ideas . . . In dark souls the undead are the ones to solve all, not you but literally any one who can fight and the bonfires are mini-first flames linked to the flame so it can stay longer Here is like you are the choosen one (noooo but you have a room of heroes all tarnished revive people) yes but all of them dont do a SH&T you do all the work And the grace guiden you WORKS like the Ghost of T. With the wind and the spirits. But doesnt work with the Teleports like how is even possible doesnt break the ideas of armies and things in the lore Very lazy compare to other games, even Bloodborne has a good explanation 😂😂😂
What's also cool is some of these reasons are stated if you start out as a cleric you find out you get Banished for the incantation you start out with. Literally for adding the giants into the story of the erdtree at all. It might make sense for some character reasons too like nightfolk basically being albunaric. Not being a real person could lead to exile too
good video but please try to moderate your speech pattern 😊 its as if you're trying to make a point every 3rd word. Its super confusing for me to listen to. Try and go for a storytellers voice, by listening to morgan freeman, the ned stark actor or the like
Id like to believe we were godfreys strongest warrior a unrecognisable face due to like 90% kf the starter classes hides their face but master in all the one who was possibly as strong as godfrey himself maybe thats what i love to think
i still dont understand who's guiding us ... is it the Erdtree/Greater Will? or is it Marika? ... if its the Erdtree/GW, then why does it stop us from entering into the tree near the end of the game? Also, why would the GW want us to mend the Elden Ring and become Elden Lord if doing so requires us to kill the Elden Beast, which is the representative of the Greater Will itself, so wtf? ... and if it's Marika who's guiding us, then why would she want us to mend the Elden Ring when she was the one who shattered it in the first place? ... neither explanation makes any sense to me unless im missing a major plot point. Also, why did Radagon and Marika merge into one being, or were they always one being? ... again, wtf lmao
Instead of this over complicating definition of a tarnished can we all just agree that if you are a human you are tarnished. No other race seems to be tarnished except humans.
When I finished a certain NPC’s long ass quest line, I was left absolutely dumbfounded. Surprise lore after surprise lore. It shook everything I thought I knew about Elden Rings world at the very core. Even the “fundamentals” of it, like in the trailers. To anyone who’s still in early-mid game, I implore you to make sure you’ve double and triple checked everything, and pay attention to items and NPC dialogue. You do NOT wanna miss this quest line
Just out of curiosity, who's quest line is it? Even with the wiki, I'm having difficulty trying to track down certain questlines which im finding are locked until i do...something
I would also like to know. I'm making a point to explore and check as much as I can. Is it rodgiers or the guy at the shack at stormvale or whatever it's called?
What if the tarnished are just great people in some way, Gideon was knowledgeable, Godfrey was mighty, Fia followed her duty no matter how fowl, The dung eater was a master of corruption, gold mask again was greatly knowledgeable, and our character had incredible willpower.
@@MontChevalier how many other people could have deciphered order like gold mask? Presumably few, he's knowledgeable on theology rather than everything
@@stalkingpedrochannel lmaoo go tell a teacher and get an apple. This is yt comment section not a spelling bee. Did you have a hard time understanding my post until you realized i miss typed maybe??
All of this feels like a reach... We know that the tarnished were banished long ago. Godfrey lost his grace and left the lands between with all his kinfolk (tarnished). Aslo we know that some tarnished travel back to the lands between, and other are summoned there by the Erdtree. Roderika was one of those sent to the lands between even tho she couldn't see the guidance of grace. On the other hand, Bogart says how he was summoned there by the Erdtree, but he also couldn't see the guidance at all, and that's when he mentions that there might be something wrong with the Erdtree. I don't believe our character was banished from the lands between, they might have never even seen the place before the start of the game (that's basically how it works in every FromSoft game, your character doesn't know the place nor the history of it). It just happened to be that we were just another tarnished that could see the guidance. Nothing special about us, that's the point of these games, we never have something special, and we were just summoned by the Erdtree just like it summoned many before us.
I have bigger questions like how did we end up in the chapel of anticipation with a dead maiden ? Did we leave the lands between and come back or did we just die here and return to life here ? And if we did die here why did we even go to the chapel to begin with ? If we left and returned did we land our ship from the sea on the island of the chapel ? Dark souls and Sekiro give you a backstory of how we got there elden ring just makes me ask more questions about how us as a tarnished got back to the lands between
It was a problem in demonsouls having most enemy’s the same size making it harder to see them when fighting so they made everything bigger in the next games. Lore wise idk maybe genetics
I think by now we all know the tarnished are the soldiers and their descendants of Godfrey's army after Marika took their grace away and banished them. What I'm curious about is what differentiates them from non-tarnished, since there are several npcs and bosses in thr game that know you're a tarnished just by looking at you. Do tarnished have some brand or birthmark on their face? Do they have certain eyes? Why is it that I csn walk up to an npc I've never met before and their first words to me are "foul tarnished"?
My first souls game. It was a slow start into the game, but a random part of the map made me look into the lore, trying to figure out what the hell happened or why something was and since then the game is a Whole new world. Each boss I understand better and the area I'm in. Some of the best. Worldbuilding I've EVER seen. Very happy to have been introduced to FromSoft games, very excited for more.
bloodborne will absolutely blow you away with how mindblowingly fascinating the lore is. My personal advice: don't watch any videos about bloodborne before playing it. Some moments hit better when they're a surprise
I appreciate the work you have put into this video but I couldn't watch more than 3 minutes... Punctuating "upwards" every single freaking word at the end of a sentence is SO annoying and makes your tone so repetitive...it made it impossible to watch
The tarnished are the army of the first Elden Lord Godfrey. After Godfrey conquered every possible enemy for the Order Queen Marika viewed Godfrey and his army as a threat, so she cursed them as tarnished, removed their grace and banished them.
I agree. But I'm not sure it was Marika. I think it was the greater will.
@@tjbruns8102 No, Melina recites Marika in Marika's own words at the sites of Grace located in churches. Marika is undeniably the one who did it.
thank you, this video just got me more confused
@@KingDerek58 She was heavily monitored by the Greater Will. If she wants to send a secret army to protect her after she shatters the ring, this is likely the only way.
I don't think they were the army. the loathesome dung eater wasn't a soldier
I want a relationship as strong as Radahn's horse.
That fucking bastard gave a handful , thankfully i beat him up in the 7th time with a ton of npcs !
I volunteer my love let’s get started
I got 1 shot by his stupid dive attack 🥲
is the horse strong or is he just using gravity magic?
@@yengereng9962 he mastered gravity magic so he wouldn't have to get rid of his most beloved horse.
Not the “deku trees blonder cousin” 😭😂
If anyone could tell me what spell they’re using in 5:38 that would be great
“Deku tree’s blonder cousin” XD
Here I thought tarnished we’re just people who got killed by truck-kun
"I shall remember thee, Tarnished "
If the tree was about self preservation then why was our tarnished put back to sleep before he could burn the erdtree
I've played 287 hours. So far, this is what I've found out. The Tarnished are considered by Marika as useless and therefore unfit for grace. Are they dead? In a way, yes. But they're also alive. Like people stuck between life and death.
Why are you talking like that???
Please please please make more dude holy wowzers this lore video knocked it out of the park can’t wait for more lore once we learn more!!!!!
Are you the matrix 4 guy? Very similar voice
If the tarnish are that op why did they decide to let godfrey be Elden lord? 💀🫵 like I’m way stronger than u fck out of here 🗡️😂
More lore videos, please.
So what is the elden ring? Is it a literal ring or like a thing or group? I still haven't found an answer anywhere
It was a ring until the “shattering” now all the “lords” hold pieces. Godrick for example has one.
The elden ring, is a ring made up of a vast number of runes. The elden ring was held by the elden lord who ruled over all and kept thing in order. Someone stole a piece of it, causing it to shatter and split apart every thing.
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It’s really cool to see this game bringing so many fresh faces to the souls series. Reading people’s comments about how hard the bosses are and how hidden the lore is makes me feel like I’m playing demons’ souls for the first time. Good stuff!
This is my first souls game and I like it a lot so far
@@ufuh9125 how far are u into the game ?
@@noobmaster1368 at the end I rushed through it for the story and to learn more about how the game works like incantations summons weapons etc but I’ll probably make a new character for a new play through and take my time beating every boss by myself
@@ufuh9125 u can just start ng+. Though it will be harder at least it will let u keep your gear.
I’m new and I’m completely lost. Can’t follow the story. Gameplay is wonderful though. I feel like it’s Witcher, but reversed!!!
My theory: the tarnished are warriors, mage's & others who serve/fought for godfrey and when he was banished and had his grace taken they suffered the same fate as him or just chose to leave with him.
then why do we fought godfrey?
@@xploregasm both of us want to be elden Lord, it was the only way.
@@xploregasmGodfrey sees that you kill his son Morgott and he doesnt know what "ending" you choose
Maybe both want the Age of Order or True Order
Or maybe you want another "god" rune to MELT with Marika
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Everyone: Lore
Me: why the hell am I shorter than a undead peasent
Because if you were 1 foot taller the crucible knight at volcano manor would think your gonna steal his job of being the one tall dude there also because your hit box will also become bigger making those Damm imps even more difficult to kill
The gravity is much higher where the tarnished were banished.
Chose lore...way different ❤
So from the opening cinematic I would assume that "ALL" Tarnished have been technically "DEAD" this entire time until Grace blessed them once more. However other Tarnished speak of lives beyond the fog. So which is it, are all the Tarnished just dead brought back to true life?? Or maybe, given the saying is "Cross the Fog" does this mean those who have been claimed Tarnished float in non-existence?? Are the Tarnished souls that have been cast out of existence entirely until Grace decided to bring their souls back from the void of oblivion??
Bit late but I've been thinking about it, so I do believe that alot of the tarnished we see now are descendants of Godfreys original army that sailed beyond the fog and died in those far off lands. Or they are descendants of/currently are ones that were banished more recently beyond the fog and died only to be called back to the lands between and revived by grace. The majority of tarnished revived and called back in the beginning from beyond the fog are great and good contenders for the throne. But it seems like as these tarnished lost motivation, faith or just took too long so the greater will started to call nonamed tarnished out of desperation. Eg: bogart, Rodrika, the player character. Just as a final desperate bid for elden Lord. But I do believe that beyond the fog is a physical tangible land where thousands of tarnished lived died and fought after being banished. I did read alot of item descriptions and I know for a fact that they did physically sail away in boats when banished and stripped of their grace, due to a weapon that is literally an anchor of one of those ships. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense lol
death isn’t really a thing in elden ring, something about a black dagger idk much but it could be something like that, like they’re physically dead but not fully actually dead and can still somehow come back ?
@@taurine5561 I always feel like the tarnished of norenown was more of a straight up nuclear option by the greater will then anything else just basically going fuck it and unleashing the tarnished of no renown
I imagine unveiling all of the lore will be a slow burn. Great stuff.
Yeah probably. I'm with it though.
Oh absolutely but it will be well worth it
Why do you speak with an upward cadence at the end of every sentence? It sounds so unnatural!
This told me nothing, just like the game
He skipped over so much
I like to think that the Tarnished are those who didn't accept the way things were that's why they were excited. But now that everything is falling apart they are the only hope for salvation.
"You threw us out of our home. Exiled us, treated us like beasts and forgot us. And now, now that the world is crumbling, now that darkness spreads and gold turns to ash, now you call for us?"
That's just what I like to think
*Exiled
@@Horacio_Poggi damn auto correct, thanks
I wish I could enjoy your video , but your speech cadence is so bad.
I respect the effort though.
You're trying way too hard with your "narrator voice." Just talk naturally.
Bro it really sounds like you’re reading to a class of grade 1 students.
Fr
No fluidity
And I’m still lost lol
Your voice doesn’t need to go UP at the end of every LINE.
Lmao
Always curious about the story of this game. Been in a game several hours and i dont know what im doing
This is completely normal mate lol. My advice would be; listen to the NPC dialogue, read the item descriptions, and take note of the environment. The beauty of From's games is that the story and themes are as much a product of your own interpretation as anything else.
My advice is don’t play it.
@@rmmm6725 jealous you can't play it yourself I'm playing it right now and it's a great game u hating?
@@Vigilo. I can play any game at any time. I just don’t play stupid games. This isn’t even a real next gen game, it’s bloated, boring, grind fest, and thoroughly not enjoyable
@@rmmm6725 everything is you said was
Pure 🗑
Man I resllly wanna watch this. But the way your voice goes at the end of each sentence drives me nuts I’m sorry
Lmaoooo so true
So is the tarnished immortal or not? I know in souls games the chosen undead basically is but there's things that happen in elden ring that suggest tarnished are not. Aside coming back to life after every death there are some inconsistencies as we see other tarnished die or are afraid of dying. For example the volcano manor whole assassates tarnished and Rykard tries to make you one with him. Then there's Godrick who apparently grafts tarnished. It seems like tarnished die all the time except you as the protag.
The content is nice but you need to vary your intonation of the words and phrases. It quickly became so repetative that the phrase intonation was the only thing i heard. The phrase "melody" is reused in every sentance if you know what i mean. Stopped me from listning to the finish sadly.
Might be a me thing but thought you might want to know and perhaps work on it in future vids. Best of luck!
The thing that most bother me is why does everyone hate us that much? Only a few people don't attack us tarnished right away, but most of them either try to kill us or flee
Hell, even in Stormveil, the soldiers fought an inside demi-human rebellion, and when you come here they almost side up against you
Why?
Your version of "back-up godly warriors" would make sense if anyone wouldn't try to kill us at sight, and the "banned by Markika with Godfrey" doesn't seem to be enough either. Some could feel threatened, but I felt like it was targeted by a public genocide, that it was normal and encouraged to hate and kill tarnished.
Spice it up next time! Everybody’s Elden Ring lore videos are like lectures ha.
His delivery is repeated every sentence, like the ancient aliens guy lol. Good information though.
First souls game. I gotta admit tho it’s pretty fun especially when you get good gear from just exploring and beating bosses
There's definitely something to be said for a more straightforward take on Elden Ring's lore, and I like how you use examples from real world (excommunication) and mythology (Valhalla) to get your points across. Not everything has to be a Vaati deep dive and as someone who's trying to remain spoiler free the two vids you've done so far are great. Keep it up.
Damn the way you talk is really bothering me. Why are you emphasizing every last vowel
I've seen like 4-5 videos about elden Ring's story. I'm trying to find out what the hell is going on with the least amount of spoilers possible. Instead of making a simple and an understandable video, creators are trying to immerse me in the story. But I just don't understand the story !!
That is because nothing about the souls series and the stories within them are simple. Even within the game itself, there are characters within it that do not understand the world around them and may even give the player false/contradictory information, much like a teacher in primary school can direct their students with false or "personalized" information while believing it to be true. In a more basic sense, even our own history is retold, assumed, and twisted over time with different minds adding or subtracting new bits of information. The best example of this in the game is Gideon the "All Knowing", as he proclaims- even he is blind to some of the happenings within the story that we (the tarnished) experience. It's hard to explain the entirety of any story without first backtracking and going over all of the information available to build a better understanding. It's also hard to simply say "this is what is happening and why" in a short video, and especially one without spoilers attached. The truth is, the shorter the explanation, the more questions you will have anyway- at least with subject matter like Elden Ring.
If you haven't beaten the game by now, spend time reading the texts the game gives you, look at the items you loot and their descriptions, learn and listen to the characters you defeat/befriend. Every enemy you encounter has a story to tell when it comes to Elden Ring. It's a part of the beauty of this game. It may not seem like it but the story is not as convoluted as it appears, it just takes time to study all of what is in front of you (or, just watch some lore videos)!
I’ve spent over 30 hours playing Elden ring now and I’ve started to understand a little bit about what’s going on. You have to really find certain characters to understand tidbits here and there and also understand the areas you’re in. Like “what am I fighting?” “Why are these knights here?” The names of the items they’re dropping. Like the godrick knights etc. it all slowly unravels as you get into the game. You just have to listen to what characters tell you and what snippets you find. It makes sense
i think it seems something like, the god queen's kingdom fell apart during the long night or whatever and each of her councilors took a piece of the ring to create their own petty kingdoms... but if tarnished are outsiders, why would we want to recreate the kingdoms?
@@adamvifrye2690 I believe to make it whole again but idk lol I watch these videos for a reason 😂
@@adamvifrye2690 I feel like we might be presented with a choice (similar to giving the fire keeper her eyes) to either continue following what we have been doing or decide to go against the grace
@@adamvifrye2690 that is the point. You were driven out, now you are back. There are multiple endings all leading around do you take revenge, do you restore order or begin anew basically.
I see some people making complaints about recycled enemies but they don't realize they have lore reasons for every enemy placement. I think the only enemy I was like "okay how are there this many of you" was the Leo misbegotten
"Elden Ring STORY Explained"
I saw this title expecting to have the story explained not a bunch of theory.
The way you presented your infos made things confusing, I coukdnt tell which were actual "facts" from the lore and which were your own theories.
I just wanted the lore explained or at least specify in the title that this was theories and not the actual lore of the game
The only person who could provide this for you is the game director, Hidetaka Miazaki. And he's very cagey regarding any "definitive" version, he designs his story and its themes with interpretation in mind. In short any facts are going to be strung together with conjecture and interpretation. Vaatividya has made a career piggybacking off interpreting From's lore, and while he doesn't have a definitive answer to anything his channel might be more what you were looking for.
The lore in this game are often “fake news” or “propaganda”, you won’t be able to know the true lore if you just take them literally.
And he assumes we know stuff like wtf
Considering your world and other worlds are invaded, even by NPCs, I think each tarnished is operating within their universe where they are the hero of their story. Hence why ever NPC who invaded seems to be surprised when they lose.
Im still think the idea of Tarnish and the Grace Teleports are just lazy Dark Souls ideas . . .
In dark souls the undead are the ones to solve all, not you but literally any one who can fight and the bonfires are mini-first flames linked to the flame so it can stay longer
Here is like you are the choosen one (noooo but you have a room of heroes all tarnished revive people) yes but all of them dont do a SH&T you do all the work
And the grace guiden you WORKS like the Ghost of T. With the wind and the spirits. But doesnt work with the Teleports like how is even possible doesnt break the ideas of armies and things in the lore
Very lazy compare to other games, even Bloodborne has a good explanation 😂😂😂
What's also cool is some of these reasons are stated if you start out as a cleric you find out you get Banished for the incantation you start out with. Literally for adding the giants into the story of the erdtree at all. It might make sense for some character reasons too like nightfolk basically being albunaric. Not being a real person could lead to exile too
good video but please try to moderate your speech pattern 😊
its as if you're trying to make a point every 3rd word. Its super confusing for me to listen to. Try and go for a storytellers voice, by listening to morgan freeman, the ned stark actor or the like
Bad UA-cam, this video was a terrible answer to my search of "Who are tarnished?"
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Half of the things in this video are made up, the other half is the story trailer.
Id like to believe we were godfreys strongest warrior a unrecognisable face due to like 90% kf the starter classes hides their face but master in all the one who was possibly as strong as godfrey himself maybe thats what i love to think
Is it me or he's just replaying the Elden Ring cinematics over and over....
Why do you talk as if every sentence is a question? It's so irritating.
Oh my god, I was searching for this comment dude
@@RudyBoy Haha so was I.
What a waste of time. Stop making lore…
The Deku tree referenced was amazing! Can't stop laughing 😆
i’ve been stuck in this stupid hero dungeon thing for 2 hours and this 1 secound clip is what made me clear it in 5 mins… 0:26
I love all from software lore. so much ambiguity.
i am just so happy you dont put in spoiler and make amazing videos.
i still dont understand who's guiding us ... is it the Erdtree/Greater Will? or is it Marika? ... if its the Erdtree/GW, then why does it stop us from entering into the tree near the end of the game? Also, why would the GW want us to mend the Elden Ring and become Elden Lord if doing so requires us to kill the Elden Beast, which is the representative of the Greater Will itself, so wtf? ... and if it's Marika who's guiding us, then why would she want us to mend the Elden Ring when she was the one who shattered it in the first place? ... neither explanation makes any sense to me unless im missing a major plot point. Also, why did Radagon and Marika merge into one being, or were they always one being? ... again, wtf lmao
Yeahhhh ill wait for Vaatividya lore video. You sound lost bro
Instead of this over complicating definition of a tarnished can we all just agree that if you are a human you are tarnished. No other race seems to be tarnished except humans.
THANK YOU GG. I've been playing it for days and didn't understand the plot. lol now I have some idea as to what my purpose is. 🤘😅
That's good lore and all but.... WHY THE FUCK DO I KNOW HOW TO USE EVERY WEAPON
Paradise Lost was first published in 1667.
Glad to see there are new commentaries being published.
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When I finished a certain NPC’s long ass quest line, I was left absolutely dumbfounded. Surprise lore after surprise lore. It shook everything I thought I knew about Elden Rings world at the very core. Even the “fundamentals” of it, like in the trailers. To anyone who’s still in early-mid game, I implore you to make sure you’ve double and triple checked everything, and pay attention to items and NPC dialogue. You do NOT wanna miss this quest line
Just out of curiosity, who's quest line is it? Even with the wiki, I'm having difficulty trying to track down certain questlines which im finding are locked until i do...something
I would also like to know. I'm making a point to explore and check as much as I can. Is it rodgiers or the guy at the shack at stormvale or whatever it's called?
Or blaidds?
if i had to guess it’d be Ranni’s quest line but i’m not sure
@@wyatt4380 it's probally either Ranni questline or Hyetta questline.
Weird question but what is faith in elden ring? Like is it how much faith you have in marika or...? I *need* to know
HypnosMirror sounds a lot like Matrix Explained....
And yes, i would totally watch more videos about Elden Ring.
5th grade english 'tarnished'. Could they not come up with a less cringey more classy mature word??
Are you the same dude who had the matrix explained channel?
thats what i was thinking, he has the same voice. Yea its 100% him look at the way he raises his voice tone at the end of each sentence, its the same
This doesn't actually explain anything XD Wtf
So do they come back to life each time they die like we do in game? Or is coming back to life just a game mechanic
I think as long as the Grace is with us we are going to serve. Yet, I could be wrong because other tarnished can be killed and gone forever
So being blessed by grace means not having free will?
I don’t know who I am or why I’m here all I know is I need to kill God
i still didnt understand shit ..... oh well great game and great video
What's wrong with his voice?
It’s called Uptalk. It’s when someone finishes a sentence with a raised inflection like they asking a question.
@@Duskets is that a condition?
What if the tarnished are just great people in some way, Gideon was knowledgeable, Godfrey was mighty, Fia followed her duty no matter how fowl, The dung eater was a master of corruption, gold mask again was greatly knowledgeable, and our character had incredible willpower.
Gold mask is incredibly good. Not knowledgeable. These are different. Ofnir was a traitor and a murderer.
@@MontChevalier how many other people could have deciphered order like gold mask? Presumably few, he's knowledgeable on theology rather than everything
You sound like matrix explained
Bro why didn't you just say a bunch of personal theories instead say its a lore video. I cant remember how many times you said "mabey" or "might have"
It's "maybe"...
@@stalkingpedrochannel lmaoo go tell a teacher and get an apple. This is yt comment section not a spelling bee.
Did you have a hard time understanding my post until you realized i miss typed maybe??
im just gonna make up a backstory in my head based off the lore🤷🏿♂️
Literally Berserk. Plz read berserk everyone
I’ve put around 2 hours into understanding Elden ring lore, and still feel like I have no idea what’s going on or what I’m doing
This the same guy that does the matrix videos!? I feel like the voice is the same lol
This is MF DOOM
This confused me more
All of this feels like a reach... We know that the tarnished were banished long ago. Godfrey lost his grace and left the lands between with all his kinfolk (tarnished). Aslo we know that some tarnished travel back to the lands between, and other are summoned there by the Erdtree. Roderika was one of those sent to the lands between even tho she couldn't see the guidance of grace. On the other hand, Bogart says how he was summoned there by the Erdtree, but he also couldn't see the guidance at all, and that's when he mentions that there might be something wrong with the Erdtree.
I don't believe our character was banished from the lands between, they might have never even seen the place before the start of the game (that's basically how it works in every FromSoft game, your character doesn't know the place nor the history of it). It just happened to be that we were just another tarnished that could see the guidance. Nothing special about us, that's the point of these games, we never have something special, and we were just summoned by the Erdtree just like it summoned many before us.
This video was like Elden Ring, convoluted and indirect in it's story.
fitz??
Your intro is like protoxx on RuneScape guides. Great video 😊
I have bigger questions like how did we end up in the chapel of anticipation with a dead maiden ? Did we leave the lands between and come back or did we just die here and return to life here ? And if we did die here why did we even go to the chapel to begin with ? If we left and returned did we land our ship from the sea on the island of the chapel ? Dark souls and Sekiro give you a backstory of how we got there elden ring just makes me ask more questions about how us as a tarnished got back to the lands between
By the way I love you
why are tarnished shorter than all npcs?
It's just an artistic choice and it makes them appear more imposing. After you kill Godrick the Grafted you will see his real size.
They are manlets. That's why the tarnished were exiled.
@@alainerookkitsunev5605 that’s also why we’re maidenless
@@HuGo031191 u mean his chair size?
It was a problem in demonsouls having most enemy’s the same size making it harder to see them when fighting so they made everything bigger in the next games. Lore wise idk maybe genetics
If we were able to be controlled by the erdtree there’d be no story with us lol we’d never even be able to meet Ranni nor do the frenzied flame
Fucked up like all their games.
My first souls game.
All I can think about is botw. But this game makes botw look like a walk in the park
Just a question: where you playing legend of zelda ( ocarina if time onward ) , at some point you call the eerdtree the deku-tree which is LoZ:OoT
He was just joking saying that the Erdtree is the deku tree's blonde cousin.
I think by now we all know the tarnished are the soldiers and their descendants of Godfrey's army after Marika took their grace away and banished them. What I'm curious about is what differentiates them from non-tarnished, since there are several npcs and bosses in thr game that know you're a tarnished just by looking at you. Do tarnished have some brand or birthmark on their face? Do they have certain eyes? Why is it that I csn walk up to an npc I've never met before and their first words to me are "foul tarnished"?
I'll bet they just sense it, like some aura.
Elben Ring
Is this the same guy who runs the Matrix explained channel?
My first souls game. It was a slow start into the game, but a random part of the map made me look into the lore, trying to figure out what the hell happened or why something was and since then the game is a Whole new world. Each boss I understand better and the area I'm in. Some of the best. Worldbuilding I've EVER seen. Very happy to have been introduced to FromSoft games, very excited for more.
bloodborne will absolutely blow you away with how mindblowingly fascinating the lore is. My personal advice: don't watch any videos about bloodborne before playing it. Some moments hit better when they're a surprise
really not understand about what was going on in this video :v. So who are the Tarnished again?
are you the voice behind matrix explained?
Chaos!!!
I WANT TO SEE IT ALL BURN!!!
I appreciate the work you have put into this video but I couldn't watch more than 3 minutes... Punctuating "upwards" every single freaking word at the end of a sentence is SO annoying and makes your tone so repetitive...it made it impossible to watch
This dude has the worst speech patterns and candor I have ever heard.
I want to learn the lore but I can't even get past the minute mark because of how he speaks... dear god.
Welcome.. to gaming explained