As a person with massive depression and anxiety I can say that sometimes we can't help it. That is... If we don't work on our issues. That's why I have weekly visits to a psychologist and use pills.
Wow. That poor little girl is going to have a VERY difficult childhood in that household. I bet that CPS is going to be called and placed with the grandparents at some point
I really hope it's sooner rather than later at this point. At around 20-3, even 4-5, with the right help she'll overcome a lot of what her bio parents have done to her - especially with the love of OP and her parents. But if left too long she'll have a horrible life and a risk of developing her own mental health issues.
@@troublemcallister730 Kids form their emotional attachments early on before they get to 2/3yrs old. These attachments set them up in a lot of ways for life. Frightening when you realise how very early childhood impacts the rest of their life.
It takes physical neglect or drug abuse to lose a child. Being a crappy parent is not illegal. So many kids die from physical abuse because they are never removed. They don’t deal with abuse that does not have physical evidence.
Bipolar and won't take her meds -- that's all I need to know to know that Lindsey is a bad person. Yes, you can't necessarily blame her for her actions while she's unmedicated. But Medicated Lindsey keeps making the choice to not take her meds, and we CAN and SHOULD blame her for that. A diabetic person needs insulin, and Lindsey needs her meds. She's deliberately choosing to inflict her unmedicated self on everyone, and that makes her a bad person.
As someone who's been in the infant daughter's position, THANK YOU! I still have people make excuses for my toxic abusive mother because she's bipolar. I tell them the same thing: she's been down this road multiple times and have it completely ruin her life and she refuses to do what she needs to for it because she's fine with everyone else picking up her messes. That makes her a selfish, self-centered person. End of story. That's one pattern I've noticed with a lot of people with bipolar (not all, obviously). They're very "me me me" and given the amount of damage unmedicated bipolar people can do, there really needs to be actual punishment for people that willfully refuse to do anything about. Like, no, you shouldn't get to terrorize, scream, threaten, and outright harm people with 0 consequences because "You're mentally ill"... ugh.
I’m super late on this but if someone broke my belongings while not medicated I would 100% still blame them for that. Unmedicated or not, being destructive and abusive isn’t okay and she should be held accountable regardless of her medication status. I feel sympathy for her, but as soon as innocent people are hurt that sympathy goes more toward the victims of all this.
@@sabr4174I had a classmate throw my stuff out the second floor window one time and later when we were meeting with the principal she said she did it because she was off her medication. The principal seemed sympathetic until I asked if there was a reason she hadn't been able to access her medication and she said no, it was right there in her bag. And I pointed out that she willingly chose to not take her medication, then used that as an excuse for her actions. The principal was less sympathetic after that and her mom was called and told if she couldn't be trusted to take her own medication then maybe they should come up with a system for someone at the school to make sure she takes them on time.
I absolutely HATE the idea that kids have to grow up in a two-parent household. Growing up in a home with one happy parent is far better than growing up in a toxic home with two unhappy parents.
Kids always know that their home is different; that it's not a loving home. When I kicked my ex out, my daughter said that the house was so much happier. We were smiling and laughing again, and life could be enjoyed. And enjoy it we did :)
Sadly some people think kids don’t see the truth and don’t sense the tension or see the damage going on. Kids are a lot smarter and more intuitive than some adults give them credit for. If you want an honest view about someone ask a kid or see how a dog responds to them.
@@itazuranakisu Absolutely. A child's brain (and a pet's) is a sponge. They absorb information and an understanding of their world enough to recognize even the slightest of changes.
Agree never stay just because u don't want your kid be from a broken family. She already is with broken mother lol she isn't trying get help or fact she hasn't taking her tablets.
Yep unfortunately the issue is even with this information on the mother she may still get custody and/or make false reports against him... I wouldn't put it past her.
Despite the laundry list of issues that woman has, he knows the courts are 80% likely to give her primary custody because it's a daughter and she's the mother. Don't hate the guy getting fucked, hate the fucker
They never listen when you try to tell them. They have to figure it out on their own. It's horrible and everyone involved with that person has to deal with both people's attitude. Honestly I'm about the same way with my oldest brother.
If there wasn’t a child in the middle of all of this, I’d feel a sense of satisfaction that the brother who cheated on his competent and responsible fiancé wound up a psycho that is making his life hell. I mean, what the hell? He had an amazing girl ready to marry him and he blew it for a few moments of pleasure.
@@arabella-gx8leYou don't need to be physically "forced" to stay in bad situations. You heard his concerns? He's afraid Lindsey would have a full bipolar meltdown if he left with their daughter. And do NOT underestimate how violent an unmedicated persin with bipolar disorder can be just because they're a woman. It can be super scary, especially if it's someone you claim to love.
Bi polar and being inconsistent with meds is an extremely dangerous combination. I had one person try and insist they could handle their bipolar without meds or therapy. What followed was a year of hell in their house that ended up in a huge fight and me physically injured. They can be really volatile when off meds. It’s a manageable disorder when you actually work on keeping up with it. Other than that it’s a nightmare to watch.
Call CPS and ask them to do a welfare check on the child. Describe the state of the home and her mother's behavior and refusal to take her medication on a regular basis.
Lindsay saying that OPs mother is a 403 is so far beyond the realms of a joke. She was being intentionally cruel and sounds like she's jealous of OP's relationship with her own brother to the point I bet she's thinking they're in an incestuous relationship. Or trying to isolate him from his support system like most abusers.
Story 1 - OP and her parents MUST report her brother and his partner to CPS (or whatever child services they have in their country). It's very likely they will try to help them and, when it's clear that they won't be helped, will try to place the child with her parents (or her). Certainly it's unlikely her niece will allowed to stay with her parents long term unless they change things and, as it seems her SiL's mental health is nil due to her no longer taking her meds and her brother's MH falling off a cliff because of his wife, I would say that's unlikely to happen ever. OP's parents might even be advised to adopt the niece (and any other children they subquently have) to stop her (and them) returning to the parents.
She can't be emotionally abusive to their child yet since she is too young and wouldn't understand but she will... OP's brother is in denial if he really thinks she wont and since they split their work to have someone at home all the time that means she will have plenty of time to abuse their daughter in the future... I really hope that CPS takes that baby out of that situation... Usually I don't wish that but there is a reason CPS is a thing... With all the family around wishing for the best for the child they might be able to get custody even if only temporary.
@@lunerwerewolf True, babies pick up their own social ques from the adults in their lives and like I said he can't really vouch for what she does/says when he is at work... Still an awful situation for everyone involved...
Story one: You’re telling me Op’s brother cheated on his first fiancée with the pos he’s with now? Wow! That man is the true definition of an idiot! He ruined his life for the mess he’s stuck in 🤣 I don’t feel bad for him at all.
He reminds me of a family member of mine. In his own little oblivious world, really dumb, deluded and beyond selfish. He’s going to eventually get cut off from everyone.
"I'm staying for the sake of the child. Yes, she's emotionally abusive to me, but never to the child." I've got news for you, Bub. Emotionally abusing one parent, in front of the child, IS emotional abuse OF the child, because it is TRAINING the child to accept and EXPECT emotional abuse, and "that's how a family is supposed to be. One parent abuse the other!" It is BAD. And having one GOOD parent, is MUCH better than having one BAD parent and one "barely hanging in there" parent. This couple should never have married and had a child, in the first place. Too late to avoid it. Now, the best thing they can do is to break up, and the father should GET FULL CUSTODY, because she IS abusive and a DANGER to their child!
He said that she yells at him not the kid. What he doesn't understand is that he should have added a yet to that sentence. She hasn't started yelling at the kid yet. Unless she takes care of the kid alone during the day then she might be yelling at the kid.
Its something someone has to experience and recover from to learn, which is unfortunate. They usually have to react a point beyond breaking to realize how much of a manipulative soul sucking and careless demon their partner is.
@@pansprayers Dealing with a bipolar person off their meds though. Extremely extremely dangerous. The brother needs to Act, he needs his ducks in a row before they break up, to ensure he gets custody. And even with custody it can descend into a nightmare. If he won't act, everyone else needs to keep away. Some extremely dangerous things can and do occur. 1 false allegation can wreck most people's lives.
Never ever stay together for the children!! It does more harm then divorcing/breaking up.. I have always said it to everyone.. I really hope many people would listen to that advice as it's seriously better for the children to be with parents who aren't together, if in an abusive or emotionally bad home..
As an older adult who came out of an abusive home I couldn't agree with you more!!! It took me many, many years to "get over" the stress of growing up in my home.
@@Lynn-kh5rs I'm so sorry for you, I feel your pain.. Know what you mean.. It was awful.. I had a lot of therapy and now I'm better, but it had lasting effects on me growing up..
I remembered someone once saying if you choose to have sex with someone always think if an unplanned pregnancy happened is this the type of person you can see being a good parent and potential partner. Granted this works for people who aren’t delusional about their partner and relationship.
I’d actually disagree only do it if u r able if my mom had done that with my abusive father I would have been neglected and potentially physically or sexually abused by either his girlfriend or a pedophile he would have brought home it all depends on the situation the abused partner with children is going through especially if they can get full custody like my dad would have gotten and my only true parent my mom would have had none
Story 1: OP's brother obviously never heeded the warning, "Never stick it in Crazy." He sold his soul to a "demon in the sack" I guess, because I can't think of any other reason the brother would stay with the unhinged Cluster-B disaster (Bipolar) that is Lindsay.
hey, sorry to bother but i just wanted to point out that bipolar is not cluster B because it is a mood disorder and not a personality disorder. oh, and, as someone who is 'cluster B', please don't think we are all inherently abusive. some of us really try our best to manage our disorders and make up for any harm we might have inflicted on others because of our symptoms.
@@annajapiassu306 I understand there's a ton of overlap when someone has a disorder or three. I did see Bipolar listed among the Cluster B disorders somewhere, so maybe what I looked at was incorrect/mistaken. The ones that don't manage their disorders are in denial for whatever reason (up to and including narcissistic traits at some level - these are the ones that tend to be abusive, the ones that lack degrees of empathy). So yeah, anyone who's abusive + bipolar, probably has way more wrong with them than just bipolar.
@@shebakoby mania can be accompanied by psychosis in bipolar so i think it is possible that it alone can cause someone to be abusive but, of course, mental illness can often coexist. also, the cluster B disorders are narcissistic, histrionic, antissocial, and borderline personality disorder. i myself have the last one and my parent shows signs of narcissism and is emotionally + verbally abusive so i am well aware how bad an unmanaged disorder like that can be. again, sorry for being that person that corrects everything. im majoring in psychology so i am very passionate about this stuff
Mood booster story: She did an excellent job, usually instead of arguing the best way to solve these issues is to give the other person enough rope to hang themselves with (read as: let them prove themselves) and then you can see if they're someone capable of admitting fault or whether you should probably leave them and stay far away from them.
Reminds me of a story my dad likes to tell. A man once asked his wife what she does all day. The next day he came home to toys everywhere, dirty dishes, dirty laundry, mud tracked through the house, the works. He asked what happened and she said, "You asked me what I did all day so today I didn't do it."
Main Story: one of the most toxic things our society has thought us is that we have to be close to our families and that confronting family members is a bad thing. Good to see that I didn't let this misconception get in the way of her trying to help her niece
I understand having uncomfortable side effects caused by your medication, but if your meds are the only thing keeping you from being abusive to the people around you, then I'm afraid your meds are the only solution you have until you can figure out something that works better. Throwing up your hands and just expecting people to take abuse is not an option.
Story 1: At least people are making an effort to take care of this young child. Lindsay sounds like an absolute mess and honestly the brother needs to step in for his kid but now at least it's not in the dark.
OP I'm sorry you're in this situation. You need to do what's best for you and help your niece if you can. That poor baby girl.......Hopefully Child Protective Services will be able to whisk her away from that toxic environment. ❤
@@Dragonemperess I've seen stories where CPS removes a child from a loving, caring family that happened to have a rough day, while doing NOTHING about it until the child ends up very badly damaged or even DEAD.
CPS is s joke. Nobody really cares, they might not do anything or do more harm then good. Even if the girl gets taking away, if there is no one in the family agreeing to take her in, there is no telling where and with whom she ends up with...
Due to some toxic family member i have learned that sometimes you have to protect yourself and that means being strategic in who you make relationships with. If the parents of a young child is toxic you might have to decide not to develop a relationship with them to avoid the parents. Having the kid and lording them over you is a power position that leave you very vulnerable to. If you don't have the relationship it is harder to harm you with it. You can always consider contacting them when they turn 18 and see if they need support then. That way you are not interfering with a childs relationship with their parents.
1st story - yes, OP needed to contact CPS. Seeing comments about Lindsey though regarding not taking medication, it takes a strong person to remain on medication. Bipolar medication alters more than bipolar symptoms. It can leave the person in a persistent fog, difficult to think. The filthy house is OP’s brother’s fault. If Lindsey is having problems with her meds, why was brother being lazy and not picking up the slack? It sounds like Lindsey needs to go back to the Dr and have her meds adjusted. There is nothing here that suggests anyone was in the least bit concerned of Lindsey’s mental health and helping her.
Parents who think staying in an abusive relationship is best for the child make me so angry...Living in a toxic environment is NEVER good for a child. But cps might give him a wake up call because he'll HAVE to leave her to maintain custody.
Lindsey is more toxic than a sewer, and Jack is a damn simp. I hope CPS actually does something for the sake of the kid. But it's time for OP to wash her hands of both of them. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. There's nothing more she can do.
@@cocalita03 Even if he is in an abusive relationship, so what? The world isn't a nice or fair place, and has no mercy for the weak. At best, he is his own worst enemy. And before you ask, I'd be just as scornful if the genders were reversed.
The first time this one boyfriend and I resided together, we went shopping to make a nice dinner. After putting the groceries away, he disappeared. I found him in his recliner watching tv. I said, "I thought we were going to have dinner." He responded with, "We are, aren't we?" I told him, "Then, you need to come help. I am not your mother!" He did and turned out to be quite a good cook! It set the tone, though, for our relationship living together. I had been married, previously, to a very domineering male chauvinist and wasn't going to go there again! LOL
Story 1: Lindsey is either on the wrong meds which is why she might feel better being off them for a day once in a while or is just irresponsible. Call child protection and go low contact. Lindsey is incredibly insecure and selfish, and hoarding is a major issue for a child. A child in a miserable home is worse than in a single-parent home but Lindsey becoming unpredictable is a good reason to plan an escape better. A paternity test? Petty.
Call cps on her. The reason your brother doesn't leave is he is afraid she will hurt their baby. Please think of the baby. Once cps sees their house. And they find out she is off medication.
#1 is a good, solid story - even if things weren't totally resolved, at least family is doing what they can to look out for the welfare of little one. Off to Tok Tok!
You keep your vehicle and go NC. This is a hardship get her parents involved or your parents to take the child. If brother isn't going to help then you should move on. Keep the child safe.
Brother better hope that CPS don’t take the daughter because of his failure to keep her safe, they may give him custody but tell him he has to keep baby from mom and of course he has that opportunity if he leaves on his own BUT CPS might find them both unfit and now baby is with gparents smh
I’m bipolar and YIKES. That poor kid! In theory, you can control bipolar disorder without meds, but tbh that’s just playing things on hard mode. I also have issues with hoarding, but for many many reasons I am child free and live alone so I’m the only one inconvenienced if I have too much clutter on the floor for a bit. I was raised by a unmedicated bipolar mother who literally attempted to kill me (not out of malice). We are cool now, but still. It was hell.
I always wondered who my 2nd daughter looked like, she has a resemblance to her mom's side but nothing right on , at a family reunion I saw a picture of my mil's mother who died years before and that's who she looked like, kids pick up things from generations back
"Someone stole my medication" is an excuse. "The doctor took me off my medication" is an excuse. "I decided to stop taking my medication" is not only NOT an excuse, but ADDS TO THE GUILT for what she does, while off her medication, BECAUSE she's off her medication. The first time "I went off my medication" warrants a sit-down "You owe us an apology and payment for the broken items, because YOU CHOSE to go off your medications, which means everything that happened because of it is YOUR FAULT, and YOUR RESPONSIBILITY." The second time "I went off my medication" warrants a "You are unreliable, untrustworthy, and a danger to us, our property, and our home, and you need to LEAVE us, and no longer have anything to do with us, because YOU ARE DANGEROUS." If she worms her way back in, with apologies and promises, the the third "I went off my medication," warrants a ceremonial tossing of everything that is hers onto the street, and a blocking of all numbers and blocking on social media, along with a post on social media that says, "We are PERMANENTLY NO CONTACT WITH HER. Do not bother to ask us why, as we will no longer discuss her. She is dead to us." Why? In order to avoid ALL the future ABUSE she will hurl at everyone in the family, every time she DECIDES to skip her medication. And if she faces REAL consequences for CHOOSING to go off her medication, she might actually learn to STAY ON THE DAMN MEDS!
I feel bad for your niece. She going to have a rough life being in that environment if mom refuse to take her meds and gets professional help. Your brother is probably not happy but don't know how to cope. I feel if your brother left and took custody he'd be better off. Until that cut contact.
So she's getting worse and he thinks she won't abuse the daughter? No, it's going to continue to escalate and it will happen. I hope someone steps in before it becomes physical. I've heard too many times, oh they would never from friends and family members. Yet it happens. I've seen it, I've lived it. Protect the kids at all costs! I don't want any child to have to go through that or live with permanent damage, whether it be physical, emotional, mental or spiritual.🕊️
The best story I have of CPS is not good. I have had CPS called on me. I smoke weed and when I got pregnant with my daughter, I didnt know it until the second trimester. (I was already big and had horrible eating habits.) But I did stop smoking when I found out. However due to my size it took a few months for the THC to completely clear out of my system. Even just a little bit and the hospital was required to call CPS on me. My daughter had none in her system. So they did the visit, I only saw them twice in 6 mos. And once we had clean tests (dad had to take tests too so it took longer for him to be clean) they left us alone. I moved into an apartment complex a month before my daughter was born and my upstairs neighbor became my best friend. We'd sit outside on her porch and people watch while shootin the sh*t. We realized our neighbor in the building by us had 3 kids. Oldest was around 9, youngest was around 5. 5 year old couldnt speak and wore diapers. Not pullups. Not training pants. Straight diapers too small to fit her. None went to school. All constantly came to our apartments to ask for food. They were ecstatic about bread. We both CAUGHT THE PARENTS SMOKING M*TH ON THEIR PORCH. Pipe out, twirling like veterans. We called the cops on that one but of course they were inside by the time the cruiser came. 3 calls from me to CPS, 5 from my friend because she had called a couple of times before meeting me. I only lived there a year...told CPS about no schooling. Had pictures sent of them looking dirty. Not playing outside dirty, dreaded hair and jagged black nails dirty. NOBODY CAME. NOBODY. 3 years later my daughter is a toddler. I get a revenge call about me smoking weed around my daughter. Hadn't touched it since having her. Someone was mad at me and knew I had a history. They came immediately. One more clean drug test and they were gone. They dont care. They take easy cases. They dont want to take the kids even if it is bad.
Wowwww... so you can smoke meth around your kids, but god forbid you hit a joint now and then. Jesus, those poor children. I hope they eventually got help.
She wouldn't have survived screaming at MY mother, she would have had to deal with me. Breaking mom's things? Let me do the same to you. I cannot believe the abuse that people take.
Lindsey. Poor Jack. Don't keep Crazy in your life. They will make you crazy, too. He should have kept his pants on during his first engagement. Actually, it sounds like Lindsey is not the only unstable one in that relationship.
I am all for having compassion and extending a helping hand, but there are limits to that. I am not a saint and will not give the other cheek for eternity, not for friends, not for family. If that girl gets off medication knowing what happens, that's all on her. I would have put a stop to it the moment it would harm me or my kids. What I mean is OPs parents should have uninvited her the moment it became clear that kind of behavior is a pattern. OP has to look out for herself, nobody has the right to treat her like that and it sounds more like that woman needs to be in a psychiatric ward. Nothing is going to change because everyone is enabling her. And OP is right, her brother definitely needs therapy and to get away taking his daughter with him. Apparently he thinks he deserves this life, but his daughter surely doesn't and I fear more children might be brought into this mess.
S1: LG, I would listen to the comments and call the CPS. Edit: I bet it was dad, honestly. He more than likely called out of concern for his step granddaughter. Update: Poor Jack ... To Jack: dude, to be honest, I would rather my baby be safe and have mandated visits with her mother rather than have her and myself be subjected to emotional abuse. ABUSE IS ABUSE no matter if it's a man or woman dishing it out. Lindsay is abusive and no matter if she hasn't turned towards the baby, she will eventually. I hope Jack gets out safely.
Report the parents and have the toddler place with OP's parents. Shouldn't be with her bio parents anyway. ANIMALS get taken away from hoarders, so should children.
I really do hope cps does something anything because it's sounds like they have very little intention of doing anything helpful but that was just my impression
First story: TELL your brother you can't deal with his wife's verbal abuses any more, and that if she can't stay on her meds, she needs to stay away from you. And since we all know they aren't saving anything toward your niece's future, you might do that -- but quietly, so they don't begin to think of it as "their" money that you're withholding from them. Open an account in your name for her benefit, and put money into it as you can, so she has a little nest-egg built up by the time she wants to go to college, or just get out of their house. Call CPS and say you're worried about the child due to the mother's health and the reality that she goes off her meds at whim.
Story #1: Speaking from personal experience, CPS will set him up with a domestic violence therapist. They gave me quite a few resources/information. I was terrified of them and what would happen to my munchkin. Honestly, family court is much more of a nightmare than CPS. He might have the lastly traumatic fear that CPS could show up at any point and snatch away his baby because he "failed to protect her"........ ok that last part is probably just me projecting but I have heard others say the same thing after I realized that this unfortunately happens way more than I thought.
Without reaching the update/edits - OPs family needs to look into actually helping her niece... I'm very concerned for this little girl - I'd imagine your parents would stand with you...
CPS will not do anything. They never do unless the kids are physically abused. No mention of the wife’s parents. What type of people are they? Will they help with their granddaughter? Are they fit to intervene?
My cousin went through this. Her kids came and stayed with me for a week and her and other family members cleaned everything up. I think they gave her a week
Someone needs to report Lindsay to CPS to protect that baby. The dirty house would be reason enough. If you go out to dinner, make it McDonald’s not a an expensive place.
Tyvm LG.. The stories with kids are always so hard for me.( wanted 10 but only got pregnant 1 time in my tube. soooo. anyway father should leave with babe untill wife gets right with everything. That way baby isn't learning bad things about mom and dad gets to learn baby from inside out! win win! Stay safe please. PEACE
Thing about these relationships is it’s not ALL bad. There are happy times, days, weeks even when everything is good. But the bad times inevitably roll in. Partners end up living for those good days, the bad times become a passing storm to endure. You live by the mantra “Things will get better when...”
I understand your frustration with your brother and his other half. Remember this, it is your brother life, his decisions and his relationship. He's NOT motivated to change and it is okay to not have anything to do with them until he is ready to. 'Added to her file'-yes, Lindsay IS on CPS's radar.
The biggest issue I see in this whole ordeal is that a small child is living in filth and an abusive atmosphere. I can't believe no one hasn't found a way to save the child. Get that child out of their immediately.
Firstly Hi Lost Genre🙃 Secondly - Wow, just wow! I hope the brother, the child and the cat got out of there safely and Lindsey got really help she/they needed! 😕
Oof. It hurts to hear all these stories of people who stay in abusive environments for the sake of the kid. Hopefully OP’s brother will come to his senses and get some kind of custody. He still has family who loves and wants to reach out to him. I’m doubtful, but here’s to hoping.
So hearing story 1 in full I feel bad for both Op's brother and her niece. Many people don't take male victims seriously because people think that men are strong and and can choose to "stick there dick in crazy" but the reality is that male victims have a up hill battle getting away from there abusers, especially when there is a kid involved. This kind of abuse is severe because since Op's sil has several mental disorders and inconvenient with medication it creates a toxic cycle of good days when she is medicated and bad weeks of abuse that Op's brother can't tell if it's his wife or her mental health. If he trys to leave with his daughter he will have to face the guilt of leaving his mentally sick wife alone with no support or him having to fight this alone with no support. Op please, cps won't help unless the kid is physically hurt and don't completely cut off support for your brother or your niece. When they escape from that abuser they will need all the help they need to get themselves back on there feet.
So I know it's cold but if I'm ever in an emotionally abusive relationship I'd leave even if partner threatened self harm not my monkey and not my circus anymore
Uncontrolled bipolar with anger issues and hoarding and filth. There is no question the life abs health of the baby is in jeopardy. Write and call CPS. At minimum they need to be involved to make sure the child isn’t wallowing in pet feces and household filth. Someone needs to monitor the situation but it cannot be OP or any of the father’s family. There is a reason none of the family are permitted to visit! Op cut the parents out of your life sounds like a good idea, but stay on cps. Frankly that non one has figured out and called cps already shows a serious lack of judgment. I hope sane family members take custody of the child. Out of control bipolar parents are emotionally abusive and they are tremendously damaging to any child
Just wait until the child starts going to school. Everyone working there has to do "mandatory reporting" Hopefully if the school starts reporting to CPS, then CPS will get off their asses & do something about the situation. CPS doesn't give as much merit to family reporting as they do 3rd parties. Family could be overstating things or trying to cause drama (their Justifications- not mine) but when 3rd parties, i.e. schools, doctors, hospitals, start reporting they tend to take the accusations more seriously. (Probably because they know the 3rd party will expect follow-up 😒🙄) and they can't stall any longer.
I hope cps dose something yet sadly 90 percent of the time they don't till it's too late. Grew up in a pig sty very abusive home cps did nothing cause the burns and welts were not bad enough.
last story: i wish this had worked for my brother, but no matter how filthy stuff gets for what he's supposed to be responsible for, he won't clean it up. He just has tantrums and yells at me and tells me "This is UNACCEPTABLE!" as if its my fault he doesn't clean up his own messes.
The post about op's brother and sil is four years old at this point in time. The account still exists and I tried to see if there was any mention of what happened but couldn't find anything. I'm not hopeful that anything got better and it's a lot more likely that the sil's behavior escalated and became worse.
It's never better for the kids to have two parents in the house if said parents are in a toxic relationship or the parents have mental health issues that arent being addressed, it only causes long-term damage (screw old statistics re: Two parent homes. Those are outdated and BS) speaking from experience here. Family needs to band together for those kids, and if it requires CPS (which I am weary of for reasons) so be it. An unstable mother who refuses her meds is more likely to cause harm than good.
Story 1: my kids would tell you that staying in an abusive relationship to protect the children doesn't work. We (my kids and I) have mental health issues because I didn't leave fast enough. We left hm 5 years ago, and he's been dead for two, and we are healing. I still blame myself for not getting away soon enough, even though he never hit me. OP's brother needs to take the kid and leave. Better no parent than a bad parent.
*after video* my derp, OP's brother should get help and get out of this toxic relationship. Definitely da one hurting here is da little one in da story. Kinda hoping to know more but y'all we just gotta wait. Only thing that changed my mood was incident that happened because a driver who was delivering grass broke da entry fence to a neighborhood and we got da police and fire department here now.
Lol, go to a used car lot & buy a $1,000 or less car & give it to her. Make sure you’re name isn’t on it in anyway. I’d even go to a junkyard if you can find one that runs. But I’d definitely call CPS.
Say it with me children: you having mental health issues doesn’t make it okay to be a Toxic or abusive partner
Say it with me children: if you are having major mental health issues, don't bring a child into this world.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
As a person with massive depression and anxiety I can say that sometimes we can't help it.
That is... If we don't work on our issues. That's why I have weekly visits to a psychologist and use pills.
Amen
Especially if they keep going off their treatment.
Wow. That poor little girl is going to have a VERY difficult childhood in that household. I bet that CPS is going to be called and placed with the grandparents at some point
Pretty much guarantee it
I really hope it's sooner rather than later at this point. At around 20-3, even 4-5, with the right help she'll overcome a lot of what her bio parents have done to her - especially with the love of OP and her parents. But if left too long she'll have a horrible life and a risk of developing her own mental health issues.
@@troublemcallister730
Kids form their emotional attachments early on before they get to 2/3yrs old.
These attachments set them up in a lot of ways for life.
Frightening when you realise how very early childhood impacts the rest of their life.
They should call cps as that kids doing to get sick living in filth
It takes physical neglect or drug abuse to lose a child. Being a crappy parent is not illegal. So many kids die from physical abuse because they are never removed. They don’t deal with abuse that does not have physical evidence.
Bipolar and won't take her meds -- that's all I need to know to know that Lindsey is a bad person. Yes, you can't necessarily blame her for her actions while she's unmedicated. But Medicated Lindsey keeps making the choice to not take her meds, and we CAN and SHOULD blame her for that. A diabetic person needs insulin, and Lindsey needs her meds. She's deliberately choosing to inflict her unmedicated self on everyone, and that makes her a bad person.
As someone who's been in the infant daughter's position, THANK YOU! I still have people make excuses for my toxic abusive mother because she's bipolar. I tell them the same thing: she's been down this road multiple times and have it completely ruin her life and she refuses to do what she needs to for it because she's fine with everyone else picking up her messes. That makes her a selfish, self-centered person. End of story. That's one pattern I've noticed with a lot of people with bipolar (not all, obviously). They're very "me me me" and given the amount of damage unmedicated bipolar people can do, there really needs to be actual punishment for people that willfully refuse to do anything about. Like, no, you shouldn't get to terrorize, scream, threaten, and outright harm people with 0 consequences because "You're mentally ill"... ugh.
@@khaleesireyna731 You don't sound like you understand mental illness.
I’m super late on this but if someone broke my belongings while not medicated I would 100% still blame them for that. Unmedicated or not, being destructive and abusive isn’t okay and she should be held accountable regardless of her medication status. I feel sympathy for her, but as soon as innocent people are hurt that sympathy goes more toward the victims of all this.
@@sabr4174I had a classmate throw my stuff out the second floor window one time and later when we were meeting with the principal she said she did it because she was off her medication. The principal seemed sympathetic until I asked if there was a reason she hadn't been able to access her medication and she said no, it was right there in her bag. And I pointed out that she willingly chose to not take her medication, then used that as an excuse for her actions.
The principal was less sympathetic after that and her mom was called and told if she couldn't be trusted to take her own medication then maybe they should come up with a system for someone at the school to make sure she takes them on time.
I absolutely HATE the idea that kids have to grow up in a two-parent household. Growing up in a home with one happy parent is far better than growing up in a toxic home with two unhappy parents.
Kids always know that their home is different; that it's not a loving home. When I kicked my ex out, my daughter said that the house was so much happier. We were smiling and laughing again, and life could be enjoyed. And enjoy it we did :)
Sadly some people think kids don’t see the truth and don’t sense the tension or see the damage going on. Kids are a lot smarter and more intuitive than some adults give them credit for. If you want an honest view about someone ask a kid or see how a dog responds to them.
@@itazuranakisu Absolutely. A child's brain (and a pet's) is a sponge. They absorb information and an understanding of their world enough to recognize even the slightest of changes.
I wish my mom had made that change instead of staying with my mentally unwell father. Because of 2 parent family /she loved him too much 🤷
OR JUST DONT GET INVOLVED WITH THE WRONG PERSON BECAUSE EVERY CHILD NEEDS BOTH OR THEY WILL NEVER LEARN HOW IT WORKS.[ REATIONSHIP AND A HAPPY HOME ]
I feel for the little girl. Op's brother is hurting his kid by staying in that relationship and leaving her in that disgusting house.
Agree never stay just because u don't want your kid be from a broken family. She already is with broken mother lol she isn't trying get help or fact she hasn't taking her tablets.
Yep unfortunately the issue is even with this information on the mother she may still get custody and/or make false reports against him... I wouldn't put it past her.
@@anthonygilmour6236 a proven unmediated bipolar mom…? CPS!
Despite the laundry list of issues that woman has, he knows the courts are 80% likely to give her primary custody because it's a daughter and she's the mother. Don't hate the guy getting fucked, hate the fucker
They never listen when you try to tell them. They have to figure it out on their own. It's horrible and everyone involved with that person has to deal with both people's attitude. Honestly I'm about the same way with my oldest brother.
If there wasn’t a child in the middle of all of this, I’d feel a sense of satisfaction that the brother who cheated on his competent and responsible fiancé wound up a psycho that is making his life hell. I mean, what the hell? He had an amazing girl ready to marry him and he blew it for a few moments of pleasure.
Right, that means he deserves to be in an abusive relationship 🙄
@@miry8535Who is forcing him
@@arabella-gx8leYou don't need to be physically "forced" to stay in bad situations. You heard his concerns? He's afraid Lindsey would have a full bipolar meltdown if he left with their daughter. And do NOT underestimate how violent an unmedicated persin with bipolar disorder can be just because they're a woman. It can be super scary, especially if it's someone you claim to love.
@@miry8535if that’s the consequences of his actions, then so be it. I’ve never met a cheater that is a good person
Bi polar and being inconsistent with meds is an extremely dangerous combination. I had one person try and insist they could handle their bipolar without meds or therapy. What followed was a year of hell in their house that ended up in a huge fight and me physically injured. They can be really volatile when off meds. It’s a manageable disorder when you actually work on keeping up with it. Other than that it’s a nightmare to watch.
Call CPS and ask them to do a welfare check on the child. Describe the state of the home and her mother's behavior and refusal to take her medication on a regular basis.
Lindsay saying that OPs mother is a 403 is so far beyond the realms of a joke. She was being intentionally cruel and sounds like she's jealous of OP's relationship with her own brother to the point I bet she's thinking they're in an incestuous relationship. Or trying to isolate him from his support system like most abusers.
Total narcissistic isolation vibes....for sure.
It’s 304
@@You_said_what1 Yeah, it’s 304. 403 sometimes refers to punishment, so hopefully the actual 304 will be 403 when child protection shows up. 🤣
certainly trying to isolate. that's what abusers do to protect their territory.
Story 1 - OP and her parents MUST report her brother and his partner to CPS (or whatever child services they have in their country). It's very likely they will try to help them and, when it's clear that they won't be helped, will try to place the child with her parents (or her). Certainly it's unlikely her niece will allowed to stay with her parents long term unless they change things and, as it seems her SiL's mental health is nil due to her no longer taking her meds and her brother's MH falling off a cliff because of his wife, I would say that's unlikely to happen ever. OP's parents might even be advised to adopt the niece (and any other children they subquently have) to stop her (and them) returning to the parents.
They did
@Lando R I don't.
She can't be emotionally abusive to their child yet since she is too young and wouldn't understand but she will... OP's brother is in denial if he really thinks she wont and since they split their work to have someone at home all the time that means she will have plenty of time to abuse their daughter in the future... I really hope that CPS takes that baby out of that situation... Usually I don't wish that but there is a reason CPS is a thing... With all the family around wishing for the best for the child they might be able to get custody even if only temporary.
Im not sure some studies show that verbal and emotional abuse are actually worse at this age then for older children.
@@lunerwerewolf True, babies pick up their own social ques from the adults in their lives and like I said he can't really vouch for what she does/says when he is at work... Still an awful situation for everyone involved...
Children are not too young, they never are, they don't understand your words but they are very emotionally intuitive
Story one: You’re telling me Op’s brother cheated on his first fiancée with the pos he’s with now? Wow! That man is the true definition of an idiot! He ruined his life for the mess he’s stuck in 🤣 I don’t feel bad for him at all.
Not explicitly stated, but probably, yeah.
He reminds me of a family member of mine. In his own little oblivious world, really dumb, deluded and beyond selfish. He’s going to eventually get cut off from everyone.
Me either. I have NO sympathy for a cheater who now has a huge dose of Karma.
Cheathers deserve worts
Yup karma is a b***h.
"I'm staying for the sake of the child. Yes, she's emotionally abusive to me, but never to the child."
I've got news for you, Bub. Emotionally abusing one parent, in front of the child, IS emotional abuse OF the child, because it is TRAINING the child to accept and EXPECT emotional abuse, and "that's how a family is supposed to be. One parent abuse the other!"
It is BAD.
And having one GOOD parent, is MUCH better than having one BAD parent and one "barely hanging in there" parent.
This couple should never have married and had a child, in the first place. Too late to avoid it. Now, the best thing they can do is to break up, and the father should GET FULL CUSTODY, because she IS abusive and a DANGER to their child!
He said that she yells at him not the kid. What he doesn't understand is that he should have added a yet to that sentence. She hasn't started yelling at the kid yet. Unless she takes care of the kid alone during the day then she might be yelling at the kid.
Its something someone has to experience and recover from to learn, which is unfortunate. They usually have to react a point beyond breaking to realize how much of a manipulative soul sucking and careless demon their partner is.
Well put.
Going on and off of medication is one of the absolute worst things a person can do to themselves. SSRI withdraw is no joke.
As soon as I heard bipolar and doesn't take her meds...........
Knew it was gonna be one hell of a mess.
Not something to ever get involved in
Once there's a kid involved, unfortunately you're now involved to some degree. Those are just the realities of life.
@@pansprayers
Dealing with a bipolar person off their meds though.
Extremely extremely dangerous.
The brother needs to Act, he needs his ducks in a row before they break up, to ensure he gets custody.
And even with custody it can descend into a nightmare.
If he won't act, everyone else needs to keep away.
Some extremely dangerous things can and do occur.
1 false allegation can wreck most people's lives.
Never ever stay together for the children!! It does more harm then divorcing/breaking up.. I have always said it to everyone.. I really hope many people would listen to that advice as it's seriously better for the children to be with parents who aren't together, if in an abusive or emotionally bad home..
As an older adult who came out of an abusive home I couldn't agree with you more!!! It took me many, many years to "get over" the stress of growing up in my home.
@@Lynn-kh5rs I'm so sorry for you, I feel your pain.. Know what you mean.. It was awful.. I had a lot of therapy and now I'm better, but it had lasting effects on me growing up..
Better still-don’t make children with someone who is not a good partner or likely to be a good/responsible parent!
I remembered someone once saying if you choose to have sex with someone always think if an unplanned pregnancy happened is this the type of person you can see being a good parent and potential partner. Granted this works for people who aren’t delusional about their partner and relationship.
I’d actually disagree only do it if u r able if my mom had done that with my abusive father I would have been neglected and potentially physically or sexually abused by either his girlfriend or a pedophile he would have brought home it all depends on the situation the abused partner with children is going through especially if they can get full custody like my dad would have gotten and my only true parent my mom would have had none
Story 1: OP's brother obviously never heeded the warning, "Never stick it in Crazy." He sold his soul to a "demon in the sack" I guess, because I can't think of any other reason the brother would stay with the unhinged Cluster-B disaster (Bipolar) that is Lindsay.
hey, sorry to bother but i just wanted to point out that bipolar is not cluster B because it is a mood disorder and not a personality disorder. oh, and, as someone who is 'cluster B', please don't think we are all inherently abusive. some of us really try our best to manage our disorders and make up for any harm we might have inflicted on others because of our symptoms.
@@annajapiassu306 I understand there's a ton of overlap when someone has a disorder or three. I did see Bipolar listed among the Cluster B disorders somewhere, so maybe what I looked at was incorrect/mistaken. The ones that don't manage their disorders are in denial for whatever reason (up to and including narcissistic traits at some level - these are the ones that tend to be abusive, the ones that lack degrees of empathy). So yeah, anyone who's abusive + bipolar, probably has way more wrong with them than just bipolar.
@@shebakoby mania can be accompanied by psychosis in bipolar so i think it is possible that it alone can cause someone to be abusive but, of course, mental illness can often coexist. also, the cluster B disorders are narcissistic, histrionic, antissocial, and borderline personality disorder. i myself have the last one and my parent shows signs of narcissism and is emotionally + verbally abusive so i am well aware how bad an unmanaged disorder like that can be. again, sorry for being that person that corrects everything. im majoring in psychology so i am very passionate about this stuff
Mood booster story: She did an excellent job, usually instead of arguing the best way to solve these issues is to give the other person enough rope to hang themselves with (read as: let them prove themselves) and then you can see if they're someone capable of admitting fault or whether you should probably leave them and stay far away from them.
Reminds me of a story my dad likes to tell. A man once asked his wife what she does all day. The next day he came home to toys everywhere, dirty dishes, dirty laundry, mud tracked through the house, the works. He asked what happened and she said, "You asked me what I did all day so today I didn't do it."
Main Story: one of the most toxic things our society has thought us is that we have to be close to our families and that confronting family members is a bad thing. Good to see that I didn't let this misconception get in the way of her trying to help her niece
So true.
Playing peacekeeper only brings more drama.
A person who marries someone like Lindsay may not start out bonkers, but they end up that way. All that crazy is catching. That poor little girl.
I understand having uncomfortable side effects caused by your medication, but if your meds are the only thing keeping you from being abusive to the people around you, then I'm afraid your meds are the only solution you have until you can figure out something that works better. Throwing up your hands and just expecting people to take abuse is not an option.
The paternity test for a present is seriously nasty. Good on you on the comeback. She earned it.
Story 1: At least people are making an effort to take care of this young child. Lindsay sounds like an absolute mess and honestly the brother needs to step in for his kid but now at least it's not in the dark.
OP I'm sorry you're in this situation. You need to do what's best for you and help your niece if you can. That poor baby girl.......Hopefully Child Protective Services will be able to whisk her away from that toxic environment. ❤
Unfortunately CPS tends to suck.
@@Dragonemperess I've seen stories where CPS removes a child from a loving, caring family that happened to have a rough day, while doing NOTHING about it until the child ends up very badly damaged or even DEAD.
CPS is s joke. Nobody really cares, they might not do anything or do more harm then good. Even if the girl gets taking away, if there is no one in the family agreeing to take her in, there is no telling where and with whom she ends up with...
Due to some toxic family member i have learned that sometimes you have to protect yourself and that means being strategic in who you make relationships with. If the parents of a young child is toxic you might have to decide not to develop a relationship with them to avoid the parents. Having the kid and lording them over you is a power position that leave you very vulnerable to. If you don't have the relationship it is harder to harm you with it. You can always consider contacting them when they turn 18 and see if they need support then. That way you are not interfering with a childs relationship with their parents.
Is Jack punishing himself for cheating by staying with that train wreck?
1st story - yes, OP needed to contact CPS. Seeing comments about Lindsey though regarding not taking medication, it takes a strong person to remain on medication. Bipolar medication alters more than bipolar symptoms. It can leave the person in a persistent fog, difficult to think. The filthy house is OP’s brother’s fault. If Lindsey is having problems with her meds, why was brother being lazy and not picking up the slack? It sounds like Lindsey needs to go back to the Dr and have her meds adjusted. There is nothing here that suggests anyone was in the least bit concerned of Lindsey’s mental health and helping her.
How the hell did the brother not break up with her after that phone work bs. You get what you tolerate.
Parents who think staying in an abusive relationship is best for the child make me so angry...Living in a toxic environment is NEVER good for a child.
But cps might give him a wake up call because he'll HAVE to leave her to maintain custody.
Lindsey is more toxic than a sewer, and Jack is a damn simp. I hope CPS actually does something for the sake of the kid. But it's time for OP to wash her hands of both of them. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. There's nothing more she can do.
It's always funny to me when a cheater downgrades both their partner and their life.
@@trillionbones89 If it were just the cheater, I couldn't care less. Pity about the child though.. assuming it's even his.
I hope so, too, but I wouldn't bet on it.
stop using words wrong, esp slang. He's not a "simp". He's obviously in an abusive relationship. Good grief.
@@cocalita03 Even if he is in an abusive relationship, so what? The world isn't a nice or fair place, and has no mercy for the weak. At best, he is his own worst enemy. And before you ask, I'd be just as scornful if the genders were reversed.
Happy for Anna for getting away from mess
The first time this one boyfriend and I resided together, we went shopping to make a nice dinner. After putting the groceries away, he disappeared. I found him in his recliner watching tv. I said, "I thought we were going to have dinner."
He responded with, "We are, aren't we?"
I told him, "Then, you need to come help. I am not your mother!"
He did and turned out to be quite a good cook! It set the tone, though, for our relationship living together. I had been married, previously, to a very domineering male chauvinist and wasn't going to go there again! LOL
Three words. Child. Protective. Services.
Story 1: Lindsey is either on the wrong meds which is why she might feel better being off them for a day once in a while or is just irresponsible. Call child protection and go low contact. Lindsey is incredibly insecure and selfish, and hoarding is a major issue for a child. A child in a miserable home is worse than in a single-parent home but Lindsey becoming unpredictable is a good reason to plan an escape better. A paternity test? Petty.
Call cps on her. The reason your brother doesn't leave is he is afraid she will hurt their baby. Please think of the baby.
Once cps sees their house. And they find out she is off medication.
#1 is a good, solid story - even if things weren't totally resolved, at least family is doing what they can to look out for the welfare of little one. Off to Tok Tok!
:) Thanks Randy!
You keep your vehicle and go NC. This is a hardship get her parents involved or your parents to take the child. If brother isn't going to help then you should move on. Keep the child safe.
Jack is like a guide for how to destroy a near perfect life
I'll take 500 for "People who shouldn't breed".
Brother better hope that CPS don’t take the daughter because of his failure to keep her safe, they may give him custody but tell him he has to keep baby from mom and of course he has that opportunity if he leaves on his own BUT CPS might find them both unfit and now baby is with gparents smh
I’m bipolar and YIKES. That poor kid! In theory, you can control bipolar disorder without meds, but tbh that’s just playing things on hard mode. I also have issues with hoarding, but for many many reasons I am child free and live alone so I’m the only one inconvenienced if I have too much clutter on the floor for a bit. I was raised by a unmedicated bipolar mother who literally attempted to kill me (not out of malice). We are cool now, but still. It was hell.
I always wondered who my 2nd daughter looked like, she has a resemblance to her mom's side but nothing right on , at a family reunion I saw a picture of my mil's mother who died years before and that's who she looked like, kids pick up things from generations back
My youngest daughter could be a twin to my Dad’s mother(when she was 20 years old).
"Someone stole my medication" is an excuse. "The doctor took me off my medication" is an excuse. "I decided to stop taking my medication" is not only NOT an excuse, but ADDS TO THE GUILT for what she does, while off her medication, BECAUSE she's off her medication.
The first time "I went off my medication" warrants a sit-down "You owe us an apology and payment for the broken items, because YOU CHOSE to go off your medications, which means everything that happened because of it is YOUR FAULT, and YOUR RESPONSIBILITY."
The second time "I went off my medication" warrants a "You are unreliable, untrustworthy, and a danger to us, our property, and our home, and you need to LEAVE us, and no longer have anything to do with us, because YOU ARE DANGEROUS."
If she worms her way back in, with apologies and promises, the the third "I went off my medication," warrants a ceremonial tossing of everything that is hers onto the street, and a blocking of all numbers and blocking on social media, along with a post on social media that says, "We are PERMANENTLY NO CONTACT WITH HER. Do not bother to ask us why, as we will no longer discuss her. She is dead to us."
Why? In order to avoid ALL the future ABUSE she will hurl at everyone in the family, every time she DECIDES to skip her medication. And if she faces REAL consequences for CHOOSING to go off her medication, she might actually learn to STAY ON THE DAMN MEDS!
Fault and responsibility are different. People should have to assume fault to assume responsibility. I wish more people understood this.
As a child of divorced parents let me tell you two divorced parents who are happy are much better and than two unhappy parents who are together
That couple can go to the dealership and buy themselves a car like everyone else has to at some point.
I feel bad for your niece. She going to have a rough life being in that environment if mom refuse to take her meds and gets professional help. Your brother is probably not happy but don't know how to cope. I feel if your brother left and took custody he'd be better off. Until that cut contact.
So she's getting worse and he thinks she won't abuse the daughter? No, it's going to continue to escalate and it will happen. I hope someone steps in before it becomes physical. I've heard too many times, oh they would never from friends and family members. Yet it happens. I've seen it, I've lived it. Protect the kids at all costs! I don't want any child to have to go through that or live with permanent damage, whether it be physical, emotional, mental or spiritual.🕊️
The best story I have of CPS is not good.
I have had CPS called on me. I smoke weed and when I got pregnant with my daughter, I didnt know it until the second trimester. (I was already big and had horrible eating habits.) But I did stop smoking when I found out. However due to my size it took a few months for the THC to completely clear out of my system. Even just a little bit and the hospital was required to call CPS on me. My daughter had none in her system. So they did the visit, I only saw them twice in 6 mos. And once we had clean tests (dad had to take tests too so it took longer for him to be clean) they left us alone.
I moved into an apartment complex a month before my daughter was born and my upstairs neighbor became my best friend. We'd sit outside on her porch and people watch while shootin the sh*t. We realized our neighbor in the building by us had 3 kids. Oldest was around 9, youngest was around 5. 5 year old couldnt speak and wore diapers. Not pullups. Not training pants. Straight diapers too small to fit her. None went to school. All constantly came to our apartments to ask for food. They were ecstatic about bread. We both CAUGHT THE PARENTS SMOKING M*TH ON THEIR PORCH. Pipe out, twirling like veterans. We called the cops on that one but of course they were inside by the time the cruiser came. 3 calls from me to CPS, 5 from my friend because she had called a couple of times before meeting me. I only lived there a year...told CPS about no schooling. Had pictures sent of them looking dirty. Not playing outside dirty, dreaded hair and jagged black nails dirty.
NOBODY CAME.
NOBODY.
3 years later my daughter is a toddler. I get a revenge call about me smoking weed around my daughter. Hadn't touched it since having her. Someone was mad at me and knew I had a history. They came immediately. One more clean drug test and they were gone.
They dont care. They take easy cases. They dont want to take the kids even if it is bad.
Wowwww... so you can smoke meth around your kids, but god forbid you hit a joint now and then. Jesus, those poor children. I hope they eventually got help.
That he’s not happy and feels abused, but won’t leave is so sad.
She wouldn't have survived screaming at MY mother, she would have had to deal with me. Breaking mom's things? Let me do the same to you. I cannot believe the abuse that people take.
I would tell the sin in law:" I would rather throw my car in the river then give it to you"..
Lindsey. Poor Jack. Don't keep Crazy in your life. They will make you crazy, too. He should have kept his pants on during his first engagement. Actually, it sounds like Lindsey is not the only unstable one in that relationship.
I am all for having compassion and extending a helping hand, but there are limits to that. I am not a saint and will not give the other cheek for eternity, not for friends, not for family. If that girl gets off medication knowing what happens, that's all on her. I would have put a stop to it the moment it would harm me or my kids. What I mean is OPs parents should have uninvited her the moment it became clear that kind of behavior is a pattern. OP has to look out for herself, nobody has the right to treat her like that and it sounds more like that woman needs to be in a psychiatric ward. Nothing is going to change because everyone is enabling her. And OP is right, her brother definitely needs therapy and to get away taking his daughter with him. Apparently he thinks he deserves this life, but his daughter surely doesn't and I fear more children might be brought into this mess.
Ots amazing how getting involved with the wrong person can lead to a downward spiral i have seen it alot usually they cast aside the right person .
S1: LG, I would listen to the comments and call the CPS.
Edit: I bet it was dad, honestly. He more than likely called out of concern for his step granddaughter.
Update: Poor Jack ... To Jack: dude, to be honest, I would rather my baby be safe and have mandated visits with her mother rather than have her and myself be subjected to emotional abuse. ABUSE IS ABUSE no matter if it's a man or woman dishing it out. Lindsay is abusive and no matter if she hasn't turned towards the baby, she will eventually.
I hope Jack gets out safely.
Story 1. Honestly going no contact is the better play. I don't understand why people keep being given chances.
Kind of hard to keep a toddler in your life without the parents! But NTA!
Report the parents and have the toddler place with OP's parents. Shouldn't be with her bio parents anyway. ANIMALS get taken away from hoarders, so should children.
I really do hope cps does something anything because it's sounds like they have very little intention of doing anything helpful but that was just my impression
I'm never amazed by people who don't take an active roll in their own mental health having kids. I'm even less amazed by the people who enable it.
First story: TELL your brother you can't deal with his wife's verbal abuses any more, and that if she can't stay on her meds, she needs to stay away from you. And since we all know they aren't saving anything toward your niece's future, you might do that -- but quietly, so they don't begin to think of it as "their" money that you're withholding from them. Open an account in your name for her benefit, and put money into it as you can, so she has a little nest-egg built up by the time she wants to go to college, or just get out of their house. Call CPS and say you're worried about the child due to the mother's health and the reality that she goes off her meds at whim.
Story #1: Speaking from personal experience, CPS will set him up with a domestic violence therapist. They gave me quite a few resources/information. I was terrified of them and what would happen to my munchkin. Honestly, family court is much more of a nightmare than CPS. He might have the lastly traumatic fear that CPS could show up at any point and snatch away his baby because he "failed to protect her"........ ok that last part is probably just me projecting but I have heard others say the same thing after I realized that this unfortunately happens way more than I thought.
Without reaching the update/edits - OPs family needs to look into actually helping her niece... I'm very concerned for this little girl - I'd imagine your parents would stand with you...
CPS will not do anything. They never do unless the kids are physically abused. No mention of the wife’s parents. What type of people are they? Will they help with their granddaughter? Are they fit to intervene?
Story 1 sorry OP until your brother comes to his senses you have to disconnect with them
My cousin went through this. Her kids came and stayed with me for a week and her and other family members cleaned everything up. I think they gave her a week
Someone needs to report Lindsay to CPS to protect that baby. The dirty house would be reason enough.
If you go out to dinner, make it McDonald’s not a an expensive place.
They shouldn’t have kids if they couldn’t afford them oh well
cps saying "we'll add it to their file" = we're never going to look into it
being as helpful as always 😒
so painter's tape saved the relationship, but duct tape is now jealous ....
Tyvm LG.. The stories with kids are always so hard for me.( wanted 10 but only got pregnant 1 time in my tube. soooo. anyway father should leave with babe untill wife gets right with everything. That way baby isn't learning bad things about mom and dad gets to learn baby from inside out! win win! Stay safe please. PEACE
The brother is in the spiral of an abusive relationship…its hard to separate with all the mental games that come up
Thing about these relationships is it’s not ALL bad. There are happy times, days, weeks even when everything is good. But the bad times inevitably roll in. Partners end up living for those good days, the bad times become a passing storm to endure. You live by the mantra “Things will get better when...”
I understand your frustration with your brother and his other half. Remember this, it is your brother life, his decisions and his relationship. He's NOT motivated to change and it is okay to not have anything to do with them until he is ready to. 'Added to her file'-yes, Lindsay IS on CPS's radar.
Call CPS, asap. Save that child.
The biggest issue I see in this whole ordeal is that a small child is living in filth and an abusive atmosphere. I can't believe no one hasn't found a way to save the child. Get that child out of their immediately.
Firstly Hi Lost Genre🙃
Secondly - Wow, just wow! I hope the brother, the child and the cat got out of there safely and Lindsey got really help she/they needed! 😕
Perhaps CPS should be called about that SIL -- going off her meds does not a good mother make.
The brother really pick a great one huh..
Thanks for another video!! 💕😆 Hope your month is going well!
Thank you SK8! so far my month is going well, hope yours is too!!
5:38 is where the story actuallh starts.
Oof. It hurts to hear all these stories of people who stay in abusive environments for the sake of the kid. Hopefully OP’s brother will come to his senses and get some kind of custody. He still has family who loves and wants to reach out to him. I’m doubtful, but here’s to hoping.
So hearing story 1 in full I feel bad for both Op's brother and her niece. Many people don't take male victims seriously because people think that men are strong and and can choose to "stick there dick in crazy" but the reality is that male victims have a up hill battle getting away from there abusers, especially when there is a kid involved. This kind of abuse is severe because since Op's sil has several mental disorders and inconvenient with medication it creates a toxic cycle of good days when she is medicated and bad weeks of abuse that Op's brother can't tell if it's his wife or her mental health. If he trys to leave with his daughter he will have to face the guilt of leaving his mentally sick wife alone with no support or him having to fight this alone with no support. Op please, cps won't help unless the kid is physically hurt and don't completely cut off support for your brother or your niece. When they escape from that abuser they will need all the help they need to get themselves back on there feet.
If I was op And her parents I would go no contact with with jack And Lindsay
So I know it's cold but if I'm ever in an emotionally abusive relationship I'd leave even if partner threatened self harm not my monkey and not my circus anymore
Uncontrolled bipolar with anger issues and hoarding and filth. There is no question the life abs health of the baby is in jeopardy. Write and call CPS. At minimum they need to be involved to make sure the child isn’t wallowing in pet feces and household filth. Someone needs to monitor the situation but it cannot be OP or any of the father’s family. There is a reason none of the family are permitted to visit!
Op cut the parents out of your life sounds like a good idea, but stay on cps.
Frankly that non one has figured out and called cps already shows a serious lack of judgment. I hope sane family members take custody of the child.
Out of control bipolar parents are emotionally abusive and they are tremendously damaging to any child
Just wait until the child starts going to school. Everyone working there has to do "mandatory reporting"
Hopefully if the school starts reporting to CPS, then CPS will get off their asses & do something about the situation.
CPS doesn't give as much merit to family reporting as they do 3rd parties. Family could be overstating things or trying to cause drama (their Justifications- not mine) but when 3rd parties, i.e. schools, doctors, hospitals, start reporting they tend to take the accusations more seriously.
(Probably because they know the 3rd party will expect follow-up 😒🙄) and they can't stall any longer.
I hope cps dose something yet sadly 90 percent of the time they don't till it's too late. Grew up in a pig sty very abusive home cps did nothing cause the burns and welts were not bad enough.
last story: i wish this had worked for my brother, but no matter how filthy stuff gets for what he's supposed to be responsible for, he won't clean it up. He just has tantrums and yells at me and tells me "This is UNACCEPTABLE!" as if its my fault he doesn't clean up his own messes.
Story1: if the niece remains in that house she will be traumatize.
Crazy how bad someone can duck up their life.
Story 1 OP and her family are F'ing fools for putting up with that girls BS!
Never put Richard into crazy. Never.
Child Protective Sevices is sometimes the hero, not the villain.
The post about op's brother and sil is four years old at this point in time. The account still exists and I tried to see if there was any mention of what happened but couldn't find anything. I'm not hopeful that anything got better and it's a lot more likely that the sil's behavior escalated and became worse.
It's never better for the kids to have two parents in the house if said parents are in a toxic relationship or the parents have mental health issues that arent being addressed, it only causes long-term damage (screw old statistics re: Two parent homes. Those are outdated and BS) speaking from experience here. Family needs to band together for those kids, and if it requires CPS (which I am weary of for reasons) so be it. An unstable mother who refuses her meds is more likely to cause harm than good.
i would have skipped the wedding and gone to graduation,
1st story it's time to call CPS on your SIL & Brother. The baby is in terrible situation
Story 1: my kids would tell you that staying in an abusive relationship to protect the children doesn't work. We (my kids and I) have mental health issues because I didn't leave fast enough. We left hm 5 years ago, and he's been dead for two, and we are healing. I still blame myself for not getting away soon enough, even though he never hit me. OP's brother needs to take the kid and leave. Better no parent than a bad parent.
Thank you for the mood booster, that was a nice touch.
*after video* my derp, OP's brother should get help and get out of this toxic relationship. Definitely da one hurting here is da little one in da story. Kinda hoping to know more but y'all we just gotta wait. Only thing that changed my mood was incident that happened because a driver who was delivering grass broke da entry fence to a neighborhood and we got da police and fire department here now.
Lol, go to a used car lot & buy a $1,000 or less car & give it to her. Make sure you’re name isn’t on it in anyway. I’d even go to a junkyard if you can find one that runs. But I’d definitely call CPS.