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Hold up. Why is the stalker ex still thinking he has a shot at a MARRIED PREGNANT ex girlfriend? And he brought his mama because Mama's gonna fix things! Let it go Elsa!
Exactly what I was thinking
Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up 'til you get in
Mama will always find out where you've been
Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
"Mother" by Pink Floyd The Wall.
Let it go Elsa!!! 😂 😂😂😂😂
Yeah… and he’s a serial stalker too, targeting his baby mama as well.
Good thing she ain’t with hin
Anyone who would facilitate an ex trying to "romance" me away from my husband would never hear from me again.
I'm amazed the OP's husband didn't come around and beat the crap out of the creepy ex guy, in fact makes me wonder... where the hell was he and why didn't he do anything about this? There is nothing "romantic" of having an affair with a married woman that's been refusing a guy for over a decade, it just makes the creepiness worse. Almost makes me wonder if the ex-bf has some sort of blackmail on her mother and sister to get them to act this way? Whatever it is... it's downright creepy. In fact the length of time this has been over is unnatural, I'd recommend that they also get an alarm system and cameras installed around their home to make sure that they aren't stalked by that brood (this will also legally protect them in the event they try to make contact, then it won't be "she say them but where is the proof?" type of situation).
In fact if I was the OP I'd file a restraining order against the sister, sister's husband, sister's mil, ex-bf, and mom go no contact on for trying their attempt to denigrate her husband (this order should be for her husband's side of the family so she protects her daughter and any other child they have in the future). She should block all of them from her social media and on top of that see if the restraining order can force it where they block themselves from her too, since they are all a threat to her marriage, and very disrespectful to her husband.
OP should also have a point relayed that her sister will never be her child's "godmother" because she's too "stalker-creepy" and was trying to get her father divorced from her mom for the sister's bil after many times being told "NO!". As a further precaution I'd recommend to also draft her will so that if anything ever happened to her, that her sister and mom has no option of contact with her daughter till 18 due to the disrespect they showed to her husband and the daughter's father.
The father and brother deserves props, because they sided with sister instead of the weird "force the OP back with the ex-bf" crap. They respected the OP and her husband, instead of helping to threaten the marriage.
Like there obviously more issues going on if she broke it off after proposal
And she tried to set the husband up with someone else at the wedding lmao
@@Kalossupremacy3356 Or thinking seriously about getting married made her completely aware of the fact that she didn't want to commit to this particular man or to a marriage at that time. Sort of like "Yikes, he just proposed! Do I really want to marry him????? Uh, no I don't think so. Sorry, NO!" Been there, done that.
The Stalker EX bf is one of weirdest people in all the Reedit stories I have heard of.
"I was just trying to be romantic" ...to a married woman who's expecting a kid???? Sir, god no please go to therapy
This .... that you dated decades ago!
After 11 years since high school break up?
And this guy has two kids already
A restraining order against the ex and his family. The sister also needs one.
He is NOT was being romantic trying to get OP back after 20 years. It's called harassment and stalking, which is a CRIME.
@@kervinsantos5808 The stalker's ex took his own children and he didn't care, he just wants OP
Grandparents that threaten "grandparents rights" about a child that has two living parents, and is not born yet, are mistaken about what "grandparents rights" are. Just let her make a fool of herself if she wants.
All the parents need to do is go to the police and say they fear for the safety of the unborn child and get a restraining order.
I always wanna hear how these cases turn out in court lol
Parents shouldn’t have to hire a lawyer and spend vast sums of money to defend against frivolous lawsuits. I suspect the OP’s mom will have to spend money on a lawyer for her own divorce. She may not have thought through the financial impact of divorce. She may not have the resources to haul OP to court.
I often just listen to videos while doing other things. I legit stopped and looked at my laptop confused and said 'that's not how that works'.
Actually as sad as this sounds ALL 50 states have grandparents rights that allow for grandparents to sue for visitation to ensure a relationship with their grandchildren. And this is a sepping stone for a grandparent to possibily see if a child is being neglected ( if they are looking to gain a more permenant guardianship). However, in a situation like this, i'm sure that the courts would deny such visitation based on her mental stability.
OP updated
Good news: her baby girl is here, happy and healthy; her dad has officially undergone divorce; and (almost) everyone's in family therapy.
Bad news: sister ( and maybe mom ) put a tracker on OPs dogs vest; the ex is claiming the kid is his; and the mom and sister refuse therapy even though the sister is making self harm threats
Funny: everyone calls the ex 'bates'
One DNA test and those claims will be laughed out of court.
Obtain a mental health warrant for sister on the grounds of threats of suicide and self-harm. People with mental illness sometimes deny they are sick. A restraining order against the mother and sister due to the tracker, the ex . The intervention was unnecessary, very dangerous,and very distressing for OP. A professional intervention would be overseen by an independent professional who will intervene if things are getting out of control.
Wow, that is so creepy.
What the hell? What is even the end goal at this point? They're straight up delusional.
Happy for OP, tho.
@Shangori You know, I've been wondering the same thing off and on ever since I heard this story.
I like the idea that the sister was the mothers golden child, so despite the moms talk about family she's actually doesn't mind just have pyscho sister. She's just upset the 'picture perfect family' image has been ripped to shreds.
As for the sister, I actually heard a theory that she was cheating with Bates, so her sister dumping him meant she wasn't the other woman ( which might her fetish ). It's a bit of a reach and she's probably just obsessed with the sisters marrying brothers idea, but I dunno.
Yea OP, husband, and the baby ( little girl if I didn't mention it) are doing great with their actual family.
The sister and the ex are the Grand Bull Moose prize winners in the "Fixated Person" category. The mom comes a close second. They blew up everything to achieve...nothing.
Cheers for a girl that young refusing a proposal that her whole family was pressuring her into with a guy she’d probably been dating for a while. Not many people have that kind of strength to stand up to their whole family, especially at that age
Makes you wonder why they pushed🤔 OPs family wasn't religious or in culture where that was a requirement and to seriously put a nail in the coffin her husband sounds like he was better than the ex is a ton of ways. Why choose this as your hill to die on?
@@sarahloveless1726 OP stated that her sister had an obsession about wanting them to marry brothers. So the sister married younger bro, she became insane with wanting OP to marry older bro/ex. And everyone would be perfect best friends in her mind.
@@EgalitarianWoman that's the sister taken care of(reason wise at least). Why is the mom on board? Everyone pretty much went LC with the sister even before the ' intervention ' ( based on the update)so why risk losing more of your family?
@@sarahloveless1726 She never explained that part, but I'm guessing the idea of having a "big happy family" became an obsession for the mother.
When I heard that, I had an inkling she’d be okay cuz she’s strong and knows what she wants and doesn’t want.
Good God, the amount of disrespect to OP’s husband is unreal!
That’s what I thought. He has endured his wife’s family behaving like he doesn’t even exist!
I thought the same thing, the only part I can't understand is why he didn't take a stand for his wife and tell those others not to threaten their marriage?
To say nothing of the disrespect to OP.
Sister (when OP’s ex proposes to her right out of high school): This relationship is going to last forever, or else! 😃
Sister (when OP gets engaged to someone she genuinely connects with as an adult): It’s just the honeymoon phase, now about your former flame…
I've seen something like this happen.. Well not this but is this but someone who's latched on to an idea of how a situation is going to play out perfectly and perfectly and refuse to accept any other version of it. Her sister had latched on to this fantasy of of them both being married in starting families with the 2 Brothers For a long time. If I had to guess I'm pretty sure her mother in law was also it was also in her ear by how amazing and wonderful that would be. Because I doubt it was just her Mother alone would have caused this level of psychosis.
Had an ex like that with that delusion towards a mutual friends brother who got a woman pregnant. They were both married for the baby sake, royally messed up family religious in a way that most people aren’t but not in a ‘in your face way’ praying before meals that shit. Surprise, surprise three years later they got divorced because of the shitshow their mom made. Mutual Friend is also a doormat unwilling to stand up for herself (Hakuna Matata doesn’t work in real life she’s not quite understanding of that harsh reality) her brother less so but still has his own issues, the fact ex thought they would be together forever pretty much set the tone why we don’t speak anymore. Then again I don’t even speak to mutual friend anymore because of her blatant stupidity and doormat nature. Her father should have divorced her mother too for good measure because of that shop of horrors which made me sick to my stomach…
OP is _married_ and expecting a _child_ with another man, it's been _years_ since she was with her ex, they need to let it go, it's not "childish tactics" it's called moving tf on. Op doesn't want him and trying to shove her towards him is just making her dig her heels in further. "I'm just trying to be romantic, but you clearly don't appreciate it." Go be "romantic" to someone who ISN'T WITH SOMEONE ELSE. Someone needs to smack the god complex out of these people, I swear.
Yeah like wtf,did they think like romcom movies it is real life.
It horrifies me that her ex has probably been sitting around waiting for her to “come to her senses” instead of moving on with his own damn life. It’s creepy and worries me that he’s going to snap on OP one day and do harm.
right? and they broke up when she was 18!!! still kids!crazy story
@@lotuslady9821 yeah that baffling to me,the ex should just move on too. OP clearly is no interested.
@@hi_stranger9156 He has issues for sure. Idk if it’s because of people fueling his fantasy that they’ll get back together but he needs therapy. It’s unhealthy to have such a massive obsession with someone that spans over nearly two decades.
Wait, hold the heck up! The ex is 37 years old and STILL needs his MOMMY to help him win OP back from her HUSBAND AND CHILD? Sounds like OP dodged a tank!
Absolutely!
(And I'm totally stealing "Dodged a tank", lol!!!!!!😂😂😂)
Late to the party, but more like an absolute meteor.
More like the death star laser
Not just a tank but a whole panzer division
And what exactly is the problem with someone calling their mother that?
I haven't heard the whole story yet but I absolutely hate when people try to get you to reconnect to family. There usually is no-contact for a reason.
@Diana V
I agree. The only reason I can see a reconnection being possible is IF the NC was because of drugs or something mental and that there is a system in place to handle the drug issue and a system (therapy) in place in either situation to handle the mental issue and that the person has done a LOT of growing, learning and changing and has been handling the whatever, is taking medications needed to function and has proven over a long period they have and will be able to continue to do so!!! BUT EVEN THEN, IT WOULD BE A BIG IF AND MAYBE leaning more towards the not likely going to happen
Seriously makes me wonder how they feel about abusive or controlling families.
I had people tell me "they are the only family you have" and nothing a family could do would warrant NC. Once I explain about 3 percent of what they did, I either get two responses.... I see why no contact OR buuttttt their family, it shouldn't matter what they do.
@@sarahloveless1726 something tells me they are controlling themselves.
@@theducklinghomesteadandgar6639 not always, you can also go NC if your family is toxic
So she updated again last month. They put a tracker on her dog..
Edit: she also found some people in her circle were still feeding information, sister threatened to harm herself for family alienation, stalker/ex went around saying the baby was his and they reached out to his employer who isn't happy and was apologizing to them wanting more information. They're also moving because they don't feel safe anymore. Her daughter is here and happy and they're all in therapy, dad and brother still feel extremely guilty for everything.
That sister did all of this because she wanted her and OP to be married to brothers and "best friends"? Why couldn't they have been best friends and not be married to brothers? Sister is Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs if you ask me.
Well we are talking about 2 screwball women. They had their hearts set on an outcome. I can only think they'd gotten away with it for years before so no one should have been surprised. :-(
She probably only dated the brother to be op's sister & sister in law. Now that dream is no longer viable, she probably regrets marrying into that family & as the old saying goes misery loves company.
Is that really surprising to you? Ever heard of baby pacts? It's when a bunch of teenage girls decide to mess around to get themselves pregnant so they can all be you know mothers together and their kids will grow up together and all that nonsense because they read too many romance stories or nonsense like that they can't tell reality from fantasy and that is their youth showing in a nasty way. The usually never wake up from this delusion until after they have the child and they discover it's not as easy as their fantasies made it out to be. Que their friendship breaking up as they try to blame everybody with only the small small few who only joined because peer pressuring actually being the mature ones waldomore immature ones and sometimes even the ones I just stated double down and believe it's everybody else's fault for not stopping them and their stupidity despite the fact they had tons of people who did and probably would have if they hadn't been secretive because a part of them knew they would be convinced out of it otherwise. Simply hearing that all I got out of that was okay got it through the narcissist who wants what she wants and damn anybody who dares to deny her! It's not that she wants her sister's happiness it's that she cares only about her own happiness her sister be damned. I'm sure if the ex-boyfriend had been abusive to the posters she would have been discouraging her from breaking up with him because then she won't be able to have her fantasy this is someone who really really really needs therapy but her and their mother showed with a final update dad know they doubled down on their insanity and believed they could still Force the poster to endure their fantasies through the court system in the mother's case! But I'm sure in the mother's case she assumed or got talked into that her husband isn't going to leave her over this. So it must have been a nasty surprise when he said they were done and he wants a divorce. Que her having a shocked Pikachu face. I'm sure that's going to look wonderful if she has any money left over after the divorce to even try for grandparent right! But who knows maybe her insane daughter's in-laws might decide to help but they wouldn't do it out of the kindness of their heart and simply despite the poster for being childish and not giving them what they want. I had the laugh and feel sorry for the poster to have to sit through that stupid intervention as her mother and sister tried so hard to look like they were the victims of her not giving them what they want with a crying and thinking oh they're making a breakthrough when no for the poster she was stuck in a room of crazy as far as the eye could see
this what they are saying is right like i said sister is delulu also that is the same saying like Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs is i,m thinking the same thing this person is thinking.
20 years that stalker ex has been hung up on op, like, there is no helping the dude become a not terrible person
Right?!? They broke up 17 years ago... WTF?
1. Married
2. Expecting a kid.
3. Made it very clear she was done with her ex
Sister and mom: "Are we in the wrong? No, it is OP that is in the wrong."
Also, I am starting to think that the sister wanted OP to have a miscarriage.
Nice Principle Skinner meme reference and yes they are that level of unhinged.
I’m starting to think that the sister may have a legitimate mental health issue. This is way beyond entitled behavior.
Genuinely won't surpise me
It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Though if I was OP consider taking defensive courses because it's only a matter of time before the nuts strike again
@@timmybrasher8730
& a concealed carry permit
One of the strangest stories I’ve ever heard. Indeed OP’s ex has major issues. Weird that so many in the family were initially onboard with the ex, the mother, and her sister’s unacceptable behavior.
Ikr. This story really makes our minds boggle.
I see this happening in so many stories and I feel like it's a 50/50 chance that either the rest of the family is just as shitty or the problem relative lied and spun the story to make the person out to be the bad guy. You can usually tell which one is which by how quickly they recant when the OP tells them what really happened.
how? Op is one of the dumbest people that are alive. She dated her brother best friend and think she will never see him again. This is pure self centered Bullshit. The Ex is literally a BIL to Op's sister. Op is pure blown crazy. Proof- Op called her old high school boyfriend's mother, Ex MIL. Op- my sister Invites her in-laws to family events, but some it just so that my ex can be around with me. Op- My ex was just in the wedding party to be around me. NOT BECAUSE THE GROOM IS HIS BROTHER. This is the show Friends. NOTICE everyone's life revolve arounds Op. That is self-delusion and narcissism.
@@k70freeman I see were u are coming from. Good observation.
@@k70freeman What???
Regardless of the SIL, BIL crap OP’s ex was getting invited to every family event after they broke up. Nothing wrong with that. But the sister, mother, and other members of the family tried to get her and the ex back together when she empathetically wanted nothing to do with the guy. So she stayed away. The manipulation they were using to get them back together was unacceptable behavior. But you see no problem with it. No….
OP doesn’t have issues. Look in the mirror and you’ll clearly see who does.
I'm dying to know what happens in the next couple years. It's hard to understand how the sister and mother could behave this way, but the two of them seem to be living in a shared delusion.
That’s a easy prediction, mother spirals and ends their life, ex husband and siblings all blame themselves and end up avoiding each other A’s reminders of the pain and the extended family have all. It them off.
It’s going to be like having 3 kids who may as well have no parents or siblings, the family is now dead and just a matter of the siblings drifting apart in their lives without a common uniting person.
Yes dados around but he will go through some very hard times and he was never as involved as the mother so unless they all stay living close to him he will become a lonely old man and likely fall into depression and alcoholism as his ex wife deteriorates which her suffering will prompt the extended family to hound the father and blame him for what happens to her.
This will never be a popular opinion but this is what i see happen in most of these stories and life is often cruel.
@@craigyoung9097 Where does OP say her dad wasn’t as involved as her mom?
Nah, no one will be killing themselves, _including_ OP’s mom, because her & OP’s sister will never be able to accept reality. They have a _shared_ delusion and are unwilling to admit or address it. Unless either gets help, they will never feel guilty for this situation & will always believe they’re the good guys. OP’s husband is the “enemy” they share.
In most of the NC with certain/all family members situations I’ve seen online and experienced (first and second-hand), after a mourning period, the family members who went NC will feel relief instead of guilt, no matter what the toxic party ends up doing. If anything, when they ramp up the insanity, drama, and chaos (including threatening/attempting suicide), it _reinforces_ the fact that going NC was necessary. Yes, the people will likely feel bad/sad if someone toxic attempts/commits, but very rarely in my observations & experiences do they regret going NC.
OP’s father and brother care more about OP and her unborn child than two people (that they still love) who continually hurt her. If the mom does k-ll herself (which I confidently believe would never happen with OP’s sister still alive and sharing her world), the dad isn’t going to forget that she had hurt his daughter countless times and put his unborn grandchild’s life in danger; the brother wouldn’t forget or forgive her actions either.
Your scenario is possible of course, but based on countless stories I’ve read, heard and lived throughout many years, it is not likely.
OP updated
Good news: her baby girl is here, happy and healthy; her dad has officially undergone divorce; and (almost) everyone's in family therapy.
Bad news: sister (and maybe mom) put a tracker on OPs dogs vest; the ex is claiming the kid is his (no one believes him); and the mom and sister refuse therapy even though the sister is making self harm threats
Funny: everyone calls the ex 'bates'
@@sarahloveless1726 thanks for the update!! That’s insane. I’d really plan on fleeing the state (or wherever they are) if I was OP just because it sounds like they might try something like kidnapping the child.
@@littlepip4014 honestly I'd be thinking along the same lines. The plus side is no one is on the mom/sister/exs side. So there is that
OMG YES. The ex boyfriend is such a creep. Not only has he been bothering OP for over a decade, but he also does it to his baby momma. He obviously doesn't see anything wrong with what he's doing too since he claimed that he was trying to be romantic and OP just couldn't appreciate it... Yikes, I hope these ladies get a restraining order against him or something.
Our dad was a cop. He often said a restraining order is only as good as the paper it’s written on.
I know of at least six people locally who had restraining orders against exs... one had to move across country, one’s ex moved on to stalk someone else, the other women were murdered by the stalker ex... one of the women’s bodies still hasn’t been found & it’s been over 10yrs
Is it strange that I physically cringed when they try to do the whole "Intervention"? Like it's not unhealthy to form boundaries especially when it comes down to an ex that is all things considered creepy. Every time I hear this story I physically react with disgust towards that entire group and wish they would all grow up.
What made it worse was the OP was married... so what they seemed like they were doing is force the OP to have a relationship with her sister while the ex-bf was trying to romanticize her... they're lucky when the OP's husband arrived on the scene he didn't kick some ass.
@@MrWirelesscaller Yeah, I know, right? Honestly, it sounds.... I don't know, cultish?
And what do you do when someone insists you do something you don't want to and won't take no for an answer regardless of how you feel?
@@jdove6883 That's easy, you cut them out of your life. You earn respect, and if you don't have it, then that relationship becomes a pimp and ho situation, only one person is going to benefit while the other gets f'd supporting them. This applies to all situations. I use a three strike method, first I warn them that they are crossing a line (if they respect you they will then stop the annoyance), second I explain the consequences of continually crossing the line (this varies and tend to go along the line I don't want to see you for a while and the second I'm removing you from my life due to your lack of respect), and finally apply those consequences with possible legal enhancements (like a restraining order).
What they did to the OP was literally raped her of her dignity and there was no way she'd ever get their respect. The easiest way to not have drama in your life is to separate yourself from it, if the option was there, whether by fixing yourself (in this case there was no fixing), leaving the other party (which she did), or have them leave you (since they went over to her home uninvited, then apply the restraining order).
@@jdove6883 Gather evidence and go to the police? Ok, congrats on not taking no for an answer. The only person you're hurting are yourselves in the long run.
I wasn’t sure what the ex’s stance was in this whole thing (like was he just getting dragged along by the sis?) until it was brought up in the “intervention”.
Holy hell, the ex is STILL hung up on OP nearly 20 years later? In that span of time he could’ve found someone who genuinely wanted to marry him, gotten married, and even had a kid or two!
A lot of that was probably the sister getting his hopes up, and that’s a damn shame.
Edit: He’s been with other people and has two kids, AND still hung up on OP…there really is no helping him, is there?
And there must be something wrong with that dude. According to OP, he has done the some thing with mother of his kids.
He’s an alpha widower.
"In that span of time he could’ve found someone who genuinely wanted to marry him..." That is very optimistic of you.
@@CharlesGriswold Yeah, that was before I learned about the other girlfriends and him being obsessive about the mother of his kids 😬
Maybe they were sharing the same drugs. 🤣😂🤣😂
How in the world did they think their intervention was going to solve anything at this point it had been almost 10 years but the ex-boyfriend was still there and thought it was a good idea
It's actually been almost 20 years. They were 18 at the time. He's now 37.
Ikr. I mean, it'd be different if the ex was only there to play along and was just as disgusted as OP. But he's a nutcase
That's what makes the story unbelievable since I've seen a more detailed update a few weeks ago. That one had the situation go international. The OP couldn't get away from the insane mom and sister. The family destroyed over their "want." 🤢
@@jamiesatyr1309 what happened in the last update?
@@despinasgarden.4100 What do you mean? Here, I think they just went NC, her dad divorced the crazy wife, and both wife & daughter were committed to an institution to unscramble their brain. 😆
If Sis and Mom want the serial creepster that much, they can marry him.
OP keeping her mum at arms length is not only her choice, but her right as a parent.
As a parent you have the responsibility to keep your child safe.
arm's length, hell, maybe country's width!!
@@davidkermes376
A continent width... a galaxy width if it were possible
There was another update!
Everyone moved and got new phone numbers, dad’s divorcing mom, SIL put a TRACKER on the dog and tried to approach dad when he was walking the dog while they were in a temporary hotel, all employers were notified they were no contact, they had to cut out some friends bc they were feeding mom info, ex tried to claim the baby was his because they were having an affair and no one believed him but they contacted his employer due to this sort of behavior. All the good family is in therapy, mom and sis refuse and don’t think they need it. Sis threatened to hurt herself if someone didn’t see her kids, so Dad went and saw them and said if she tries it again he’s calling the cops, but that’s the only contact he’s had. Everything else for is through lawyers for all parties.
I used to read these stories and think "I'm so thankful my family isn't as dramatic as this" but I was proven wrong. People will sacrifice anything if it means never admitting to the people they hurt that they did wrong
My life is so weird that I belive most of this stories. My dad's sisters, I refuse to call them aunts, could pull something like this. I trully belive one of them had borderline disorder and the other one just goes along with her her stupidity. One time when my parents were in a rough stop in their marriage(they resolved it) she tried to convince my mum to divorce my father so she wouldn't be the only divorcee in the family.
@@LadyNikitaShark Wow, that's effed. Glad ur mother didn't listen to her.
@@LadyNikitaShark man, i hope that nothing like that happens again! And also I hope that it gets better or do what’s best for you when the time comes!
@@LadyNikitaShark Not every lunatic has to look like it. Some function normally until there's a psychological break over something. 🤔
@@LadyNikitaShark
Wow
To anyone still looking at this... there were two further minor updates. Sister put a tracker on the dog to stalk them, ex got fired from his job for being a stalker. Everyone is still no contact.
OP's mum turns matriarchal, then gets upset when OP doesn't bow and submit.....
And then still doesn't get it, even when her own husband leaves, and at least 1 other of her children also go no contact with her......
And still tries to play a power card.......
OP should go legal on her mum and sister with restraining orders and all......
I have a feeling she will. I mean mom literally threatened to take OPs child from her. Any lingering feelings of affection had to have died in that instant. She needs legal records to show how mom is bad AND not in the child’s life. I’ve heard of grandparents rights when it comes to a grandparent who say babysits the kid every day after school while the parents work (there was a Reddit where a couple wanted to move for a job but because of the grandparent who had been doing that they filed for grandparent rights to either block the move or make the child stay with them) But I don’t think you can declare it on an unborn child especially when her actions have hurt the child. I think the mom and sister were trying to make her miscarry
You don't know what matriarchy is
@@valeriew4833 I used the word Matriarchal.
Which according to a quick google search means:
"relating to or denoting a form of social organization in which a woman is the head."
Also:
denoting an older woman who is powerful within a family or organization.
"an overbearing matriarchal figure"
So from what I can see, my comment is spot on.
Though I am happy to have a productive conversation on what makes you think that I am wrong.
Wait wait wait this ex bf and his family are still hung up on things that happened over *seven* years ago? If it was just the ex, I could chalk it up to OP being his “one who got away”. But for the whole family to be unable to move on for so long makes me feel it’s deeper than that.
Edit: it’s been SEVENTEEN YEARS? And these people still refuse to admit their perfect little family fairy tale is never going to work?! Someone call the hospital and let them know they’re missing a few psych ward patients.
Yep
Also OP's sister is his SIL. So probably has been in his ear for the last 17 years about it too. Or he has with her, hard to tell which direction the madness is flowing from OP POV. But if she has been this way with him too it could have been totally messing up him as well and really not letting him move on or grow into healthy relationships either as he REALLY shouldn't have been there for this and don't seem.....well.
This rabbit hole could go much deeper in other directions. The ex's mother being there makes me ask WTF is happening on that end of the family too.
I love your last "phone Hospital lost some patients, you call that right
Sister to OP's husband "you destroyed our family"
No, no, no, sister of OP you did that the moment that you invalidated your sisters choice when she rejected her ex
And every decision that you made since then reminded me of the Chernobyl accident, and just like Chernobyl your family melted down.
Not because of OP or her husband, but because of you and your mother.
Sounds like Folie à deux to me. Either the mom was crazy and convinced the sister or it's the other way around.
Still, what a weird hill to die on of all things, but hopefully the OP can destress for the sake of the baby.
Sister scream you destroying family,lol. No lady,is you who destroying the family.
Op needs to do one more thing. She needs to get a restraining order against her stalker ex boyfriend. That way he can truly know its over between him and her while he is sitting in jail.
The Ex just went along with it. He was invited to parties and family gatherings, but was too weak to see he looked as crazy as the mom and sister by doing so. 😆
@@jamiesatyr1309
He didn’t “just go along with it” he’s a willing all in participant. He’s as psychotic as the sister, the mon & his own mom
No. This guy would see an RO as a love letter.
I bet mother thinks she can just got to court and demand to have custody and the judge will just take her word and hand it to her. Love how sister said the dad ruined the family and not her and mothers actions. Like it's absolutely disgusting to me that they dont care at all what OP wants. It's like they don't even think she's a person. They think she's some living doll who has to do their bidding. It's disgusting on so many levels.
Edit: sorry love how sister said Op's husband ruined their family when it was her who did that along with her mother and their selfish actions against OP. Also after harassing OP Goodluck on ever getting any rights to the child.
sometimes you have family that will never show you any respect no matter how much you grow
Sister said op's husband ruined the family
Yeah, weird how they’re acting like narcissists.
God, that intervention. The audacity of people who think they can gang up on a person and tell them how to feel and what to do.
The fact that they brought her ex and his mother to the attempted reconciliation shows that the sister is still obsessed with getting OP and ex back together, and the OP's mother is clueless. If OP cut her sister off due to incessantly trying to force her back with her ex. why would mother think that having the ex at the attempted reconciliation would help? And he should never have agreed to that, so he is clearly a stalker himself.
"I would miss my mom, she was a great mom until my sister went over the edge" - yeah and then you saw mom was all in for team golden child.
OP’s hubby, dad, and brother really said ‘we about to make a king move’ and were kings. Sister and mom need a nice long stint on a deserted island somewhere.
Why...I hear all the story and why,how and again why a mother can be like that and a sister this is just awful poor family,the mother can't see her son and her daughter and now her husband is getting divorced from her,this woman lost everything even grandsons because she can accept that she can't control her daughter future
I heard this story. The has god complex thinking she can control op and the mom encouraging her only made it worse.
She wanted a big happy family...
Now the only person the incibator has is her just a crazy daughter.
I also think it's the fact shes older. I cant tell you how many times people have pulled the "im older, so I know better" card. Im turning 20 in a couple of weeks, but it never ends. Probably because I look 10 at worst, 14 at best. My older sister tries to get me out of the house and thinks Im a friendless, depressed, suicidal loner who cries herself to sleep every night. One time zhe showed up unannounced when my mom was gone and tried to drag me out while I was in a towel. She told me Im an adult, but tried to drag me out like an unruly kid in the store. I cant argue with my mom because she get mad and its all "watch your tone, little girl". But she bums money off of me.
The sister is just another victim of narcissist mom's power play. The sisters were supposed to marry the boys next door and stay close and under mom's control. Only one sister was completely brainwashed, and the other (OP) wasn't and made her own choices. Sister is freaking out because she was promised something that isn't going to happen. The god complex is mother's, sister is now just a minion in her plan. While the sister's actions are not good, she is not the mastermind pulling the strings. She just knows the plan has gone off the rails, and is trying anything to get it back on track.
Yup, sis is an egomaniac
@@lonelyronin2428
I hope you move out & far away ASAP & go no contact
Story 1: "Hey handsome." "That's my girlfriend over there, please stop." "Wait what?" I'd hate to be that girl. The ex was trying to be romantic by being a borderline stalker. The women in this family, geese. Cut access to the baby, I can imagine mum setting up playdates with the ex and referring to him as the baby daddy.
"jeez" is the usual spelling, not "geese." However, this mistake reads more like a brain fart and not a symptom of inability to spell correctly.
@@snorgviggle5852 Geese is a lot funnier though.
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Probably stupid auto correct
I'm kind of surprised OP's husband isn't having little "Accidents" that aren't really accidents...clearing the way for the ex...
The mom, the sister, the ex...they're all in some strange delusional world.
The Folie a Deux has become the Folie a Trois.
It might have gone that route if not for the father and brother coming around. This got out of control very early on when they didn't see the harm in the Ex attending all family functions and vacations. ;-)
I'm happy for the pregnant woman having so much family support. She may have to take legal steps to keep the toxic people away from her home and her daughter.
I could understand the mom wanting her daughters to start talking again. She lost me when she had the ex and his mommy at the meeting. If she really wanted things to work out sister would need to drop the idea of OP and the ex getting back together.
I think why the ex and his mom are still close to the ops mom Is because he is the crazy sisters brother in law still so technically related. But so slimy. I have 5 older sisters and there are always some of us not talking to the others lol. Shit I'm the baby at 58 and we still act foolish upon occasion. But we all still end up together and act like normal human beings at weddings/showers birthdays etc.. but moms still alive. We still scared of her lol. (Naw I love my mom lol she did great raising a gaggle of girls without killing any of us. Feel bad for our baby brother. Poor boy never got to use the bathroom alone. Lol)
If the sister thought the ex was so great why didn't she date and marry him herself?
The entitlement of adults to tell another adult who they are supposed to be with even after she's married is ridiculous!! To try and do this for YEARS is just insane!
Yeah, I would not allow my mother or my sister around my kid or in my life, this is ridiculous you cannot still be hung up on your daughter not wanting to get married to her ex-boyfriend this is crazy! I went through something similar to this but thankfully my family wasn't crazy
OP and her family need cameras everywhere because this could end up on a true crime podcast.
This was written during LG's comments to the original post:
I swear on God, On Jah and on Big Smoke the sister is obsessed with the idea of her and OP being sister-wives. Or married to two siblings married to another pair of siblings. Im gonna come back to this after the updates and see if I was right.
End of the Video Edit:
Called it.
I thought sister wives were for the men that had multiple wives, Idk that was a thing too
@@drkatbun8566 if that's the case then I've not heard that definition before. Apologies
If your "mother" cannot respect the decisions and rules you have about your own life, then what makes you think that she will respect the rules and decisions that you and your husband make about your daughter? Are you willing to risk this kind of interference with your daughter?
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Me: "Uh-huh... want me put bells on my other leg?"
Or "Yeah right and I'm selling the Mackinac Bridge."
Good story, well presented (as usual!) Wonder if there will be another update further down the road... hope so.
I hope so too, staring with a restraining order and then the husband for beating the crap out of the ex-bf for violating it. The level of shade thrown on the husband was amazing because I wouldn't tolerate such disrespect myself.
I've seen the same story out there with 5 updates making it go international trying to get away from the Mom and sister. There were police involved, restraining orders, psych ward, & the OP's attorney in the States and another in Europe trying to manage this psycho family. ;-)
Clearly, the sister has a real thing for OP's ex. Maybe she should have married him? Instead of his second best choice brother?
Better yet, ignore the laws forbidding bigamy and tell sis to marry ex as a second-at-the-same-time husband.
maybe sis was hoping for a little menage - a - quatre??
It's safe to say that OP's sister is mom's favorite child to go so far to destroy her entire family to appease that witch with a B of child. Wow the audacity smh
I'm so glad OP has so many people on her side. It's so sad that sister put her OWN ideas of HER happiness above her sister's ideas of her own life. And that their mother agreed, and thought that she was "a bad person" for not marrying her high school sweetheart.
And all of this happened a full NINETEEN YEARS after the break-up. What the heck?!
If I were OP's father, I'd be pushing for them both to be forcibly put into an inpatient psychology hospital, because they refuse to seek therapy on their own, even at the cost of THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY. They are SICK.l
They need help, but not at the cost of the OP's safety, the father's safety, the brother's safety, and DEFINITELY not the children's safety.
Seriously, though, it would not be wrong to see custody of the sister's child, because again, SHE IS SICK, and is scary unfit to be a parent, right now. God only knows the poison she is pouring in her child's ear, about how "Mother knows best, no matter what," and "Children do NOT get to choose their own lives or happiness," and "Love only counts if you have MY approval," and other such garbage.
She's either going to destroy her son, or lose him, entirely, along with the rest of the family. He might be lucky and get to live with his aunt or uncle, or grandfather, or he might have to wait until he's an adult and cut the ties, himself. But either way, he must escape from her, or he WILL be mentally and emotionally destroyed.
Seriously, it's NOT SAFE for her to raise a child.
Maybe there should be a pMIL for potential? Or BFM for boy friends mom?
So good to hear that his dad is supporting like that
It's ironic that the sister was so focused on the married to brothers part, that she forgot about the being best friends part.
Okay, so listening to the first portion, the main thing I don't get here:
If the sister thought this guy (the ex) was so great, why didn't the sister get together with him instead of his brother and why was she so determined to try to force OP to get back together with him? It feels like two Yanderes working together and gives me chills.
she wanted it to be sisters married to brothers kind of thing
Yeah, that is very creepy.
Because the sister's fantasy wasn't about being with the ex. It was all about a pair of sisters being married to a pair of brothers, like something out of a storybook.
It's still creepy.
@@briarrose6442 Two of my great aunts did that- married brothers. At least with them it was willingly (at least I assume such - one was a "shotgun marriage" -lol).
Pre-Update Opinion: I can see the Ex having been fed a line about how much OP wanted them back, as well as not being informed about OP being married at all by the Sister & possibly the Mom. It's not a stretch as the whole story is about how manipulative & deceptive OP's sister & Mom are. It seems the Sister wants to play Dollhouse with REAL PEOPLE.
Post-Update Opinion: Never mind Ex is a creep.
They were well past that long before the sister's wedding. Breaking up OP's marriage had to cross their sick minds. The brother should have intervened very early on. ;-(
HOLY CRAP!!! How much do have to lose before you cut it out and leave her alone, the mom and sister belong with each other.
Mom wanted her daughters to get along sooooo badly, she blew up her entire family for it. Now her marriage is over, most of her children don't want to speak to her, she will never have a relationship with her grandchildren
I sincerely hope it was worth it for mom
Yep. She can move in with the creepy ex and his mom. 👋 😀
I feel so bad for OP, I'm glad she's got the best support from her husband and family. Her mother and sister are INSANE!
Someone else’s mental health issues do NOT mean you have to risk your own mental health having them in your life. I say this as someone with several mental health issues.
Look OP I know we as children always has this unconstitutional love for our parents, but when our parents are toxic we have to do what is best for our mental health, the same when your kids are toxic to their mental health. It is hard to cut them off but you have to do what is best for your now family.
I can assure you that it's very easy to NOT have "unconditional love for parents." My father was an asshole, I recognized this early in life, and the word "love" does not describe any aspect of our relationship.
@@snorgviggle5852 yes some of us are born or curse to have asshole parents, we have been condition to love them no matter what, because they gave birth to you, lolol, I believe if any of us could choose who we want as our parents, some people would never have kids,respect is earn not given being a sperm and egg donor doesn't mean you get respect , you don't own your children and children aren't obligated to do any thing for their parents, they do out of love and respect, because a loving parent taught them those traits, sorry about your childhood and I hope you learn to be a better parent to your babies if you have them
After the mother and sister were wrongly let in the house, I would have the house swept for monitoring devices and throw out any food that was there. The mother and sister have gone full-blown crazy. Get a restraining order for both.
And a CCW permit.
If the ex and his mother were present at the 'intervention,' then it was obviously more than just an attempt to get you and your sister back together. It was an attempt to get you and your ex back together in spite of you being married to someone else. The level of disrespect here is off the charts.
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Thing is, the ex could've had a good relationship with OP if the rejection to engagement wasn't taken as a horrible offense. It could've been taken as "we're not ready for that yet" but instead they were getting mad at OP and harassing her for it.
1st story; reconciliation has to be something both parties want and can't be forced. Forgiveness doesn't mean trust and all those crybaby family members need to toughen their hides and take it in stride.
What a messed up family. Op has done the only thing she can to protect her health, marriage and baby. I wish her and her husband all the best.
All this for breaking up with an 18yr old a million years ago?
Back when the 1st HALO came out😯
I can't come up with a clear motive for her sister's actions. This is pure insanity.
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RE: Intervention I'm having a hard time understanding why OP stayed at the intervention the second she saw ex and ex's mother there. The reasonable thing would have been just to walk out and go. Sitting there and listening to their intervention was insane. Doning so just validated their reasoning in mother and sister's eyes.
Lokisgod, she had to wait for one of the people she texting (dad, brother, hubby, etc) for a ride to get away from the "intervention" someone else took her to the "get together "
@@stacymanning2393 Okay. Still should have walked out after calling for her ride to come back. Deigning to listen to their dreck just encourages them. Get away even if you have to hide in the bathroom to do so.
@@lokisgodhiNormally I would agree with you, but these people sound insane enough to do something like locking the door or physically restraining her to keep her from leaving. I wouldn’t wanna risk it before I had someone else there to protect me and the baby.
Already heard this post but I just realized something: why does the ex have any connection to OPs nephew?
Also did the mom and sister seriously try another intervention after all this happened after their last one🙄
Also also: a comment from another video showing this story makes a good point. If OP snapped and the intervention worked what about her baby? There was no way in hell the sister was letting go of her fantasy and her ex sure as fuck wasn't going to accept her baby with another man.
It’s his nephew too (OP’s sister married his brother)
I saw this video many times but still, the story made think _"Yep, mom and sis are unhinged."_
Does it bug anyone else that OP kept referring to her ex boyfriend's mom as her "ex MIL"? She was never married to him, therefore his mom was never her MIL.
The "setting me up with my ex despite my protests" thing sounds like a Three Strikes NC kinda thing: Once is understandable, twice is reason for a good strong talking-to, three times makes it clear that Sister doesn't respect OP's free will or boundaries in the slightest and has no intention of acting in OP's best interest, simply her own delusions of what OP's life needs to be like. If Sister were concerned about OP's husband in some way (e.g. that he was abusive), it wouldn't play out like this at all.
This is pure narcissism and the "teddy bear" mindset, where the other person has to match the Perfect Teddy-Bear Scenario in your head, and if they fail to live up to your fantasies, you come unglued. I forget where I learned that term, but there was an anecdote about a guy who put his wife in the hospital because when she came home from work, she checked the mail first instead of helping him in the kitchen (like he'd imagined the perfect wife would do -- he was enjoying time in the kitchen, so she would walk in the door and immediately join him). People who can't appreciate that other people are, in fact, different people, with different viewpoints and free will... that type of person is truly dangerous.
You touch on an extremely important point: married couples should expect their spouses to have different interests from oneself. Example: hubbie likes to garden; wifey likes to sew costumes foe the local stage group. Unlike natural born twins, married couples shouldn't dress alike even if an MIL lurking in the bushes thinks otherwise.
i just don't get why the mom and sister are willing to throw away their relationship with OP, over someone OP rejected over *20* years ago? Yeah, OP doesn't need her daughter exposed to anyone who resorts to temper tantrums and ambushes to control a relationship. The ex, OP's mom and sister have been beating this dead horse for so long, there's nothing left. OP needs a restraining order for the three of them. This is straight up stalking.
Intervention: “They staged an intervention because my childish tactic has gone on too long”
You have interventions when someone’s life is in jeopardy. NOT because your boundaries have been violated (repeatedly).
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I don't really get why the sister was so obsessed with having her and OP marry brothers. They still could've been close without that connection. Instead the sister pretty much dropped a nuke on hers and OP's relationship and there's no turning back. Same with the mom, if she just would've accepted that things were the way they were, she still could've had her marriage and grand kids. Now they both have nothing but each other.
WOW! MOM DOESN'T GET IT!
CLUELESS!
That was NOT intervention.
That was life INTERFERENCE!
I truly truly feel bad for OP & her family. I wish OP the best. I cannot understand the Sisters obsession over this.. it’s so unhealthy & creepy
Same here. And I also feel bad for OP's baby.🤦♀️ I'm telling you, if that %£?@ing craziness persists, then, OP's mother and sister will, either have to be incarcerated for stalking (, which cops don't play around with ), or remanded to a psychiatric hospital.⚠️
I wouldn't be shocked to find sister with your crazy ex. There's a reason she's pulling so hard for him. Maybe she enjoys the plotting her and ex do. Match made in heaven right there.
Unbelievable. Carrying a torch for 20 years? OP's sister, mother, and ex are absolute lunatics! Bravo to OP's father for taking a firm stand and divorcing his psycho wife. I hope OP changes her number and moves far away. Whatever pain she's feeling now is nothing, compared to what she'll feel if she keeps these monsters in her life.
What is so funny about the first story. The fact that sister, BIL, and the ex are being dragged on FB about it, while OP didn't 100% intend it. Kind of sounds like it actually might have been 99.9% intended to happen. I mean she said it wasn't 100% her intention. 😐
oftentimes the best defense is...scorched earth.
they didn't let up, and they got what they deserved.
I've said this before. This whole thing is not sisters delusion, its the mothers. Mother wanted to keep control over her daughters (and future grandchildren) by marrying them off to the "boys next door" OP was able to think for herself and chose another man, ruining the plot. Sister, being brainwashed by mother that this is the way it was going to be, is now confused that things are not going as promised by mommy.
Don't place all of the blame on the sister, she's as much of a victim of mommy's narcissist power trip as OP. She's just still stuck under mother's spell and doesn't see it.
The sister is just another victim of narcissist mom's power play. The sisters were supposed to marry the boys next door and stay close and under mom's control. Only one sister was completely brainwashed, and the other (OP) wasn't and made her own choices. Sister is freaking out because she was promised something that isn't going to happen. The god complex is mother's, sister is now just a minion in her plan. While the sister's actions are not good, she is not the mastermind pulling the strings. She just knows the plan has gone off the rails, and is trying anything to get it back on track.
I was smelling the same. Sister has such golden child behaviour and nobody stop to think about it for a second. Sometimes situations like this are where it bleeds the true intention of some people and they freak out when their control goes away too. In this case mommy dearest can't do jack sh*t about it and sister freak out because OP broke the illusion and let the mom reveal her trueself. I think the non stop of this is a clear sign as well.
Her fetish really goes insane, and the ex ... what a pathetic sore loser.
Also there is another update to this story: Dad divorce the mom, OP and husband had a baby girl now, but the sister claim the baby daddy is the ex of OP for stir drama and because Mama dearest can't fix this (i smell golden child syndrome too), plus the ex is on this because he put a tracker on OP's dog. The funny part everyone from OP, OP's husband, OP's dad, OP's brother, family , relatives, friends too are calling the BS from both and OP can sue them both as well. Honestly i would ask them if they are so fixated on this fantasy that they probably having an affair too behind the ex's brother's back.
Also if someone must be chastised here is the mother. 17 FREAKING YEARS to stop this and she didn't.
Not only is OP married and pregnant, the ex has TWO CHILDREN with another gf!! Was it something in the water! What made them all go crazy?
Best example of two people refusing to take the word "NO" for an answer.
Not just from op. They don't even have a family to be perfect with because everyone's got out of that mess.
“My sister’s insistence comes from the fixation of wanting the both of us to marry brothers and being best friends.”
Funny how in the sister’s mind she doesn’t have to give up her significant other and find a nice man with a good brother for OP in order to fulfill this weird fixation. Clearly OP has to be the one to suck it up and get back with her ex 🙄
This is one of my favorite stories. I come back again and again to this one.
Definitely should have said her Brother & Father are pretty Damn awesome for standing by her. You can't blame them for the past when they thought it wasn't a huge deal, & they understood when OP said the X made her uncomfortable. They stepped up after the sisters Wedding & that flirty Bridesmaid situation & seems like every time after
That’s the weird part. Her ex was her brothers best friend so him still being around after the break up would be normal. Also people tend to lean on their friends after a breakup they didn’t want. This is prime example of why you shouldn’t date your siblings friends. All the extra behaviors after the fact and years down the line are just woow.
@@bautistalover Well that's the big issue, its been a couple years, the Brother gets it's not gonna happen & everyone trying to do an "intervention" is off their rocker
@@luv2bevl1 oh I agree. OPs lucky it seems the crazy affects the women in the family and it apparently skipped OP but her mom and sister got it badly. And as for her ex he needs to get over OP and find someone new to love or one of his baby mommas.
@@bautistalover apparently with the X he's just as if not more crazy! Since it seems he's got a pattern of problems.
@@luv2bevl1 patterns of problems sounds about right. Though with these people makes me wonder if they are all laboring under the same delusions which is a scary thought.
I’ve heard this story before, but it’s grippingly insane. I’d like to say this couldn’t really happen in life, but my family is crazy too.
i love how op has proven that when she gives an ultimatun she is going to fulfill it and apparently people that have seen it firsthand still dont take them seriously afterwards
This story is off the wall insane.
So, how much insanity you can display?
The mother and sister: YES
Since the EX is the problem how could you think that having him and his family there while you try to "Reconcile" is going to work???
One could argue that OP ignoring her sister at first was childish, but when we get to the intervention etc
We can see that they still were invalidating OP.
Instead of just the mum and sister being there, and them apologizing profusely.......
They decided to have numerous people there, and even people who no longer mean anything to OP (including her EX who was still in denial) and then try to play a "power card".....
Which is always trumped by the "leaving card", and "blocking card"
more and more of these "interventions" seem to me to be nothing but ambushes. i wonder when folks will start using them to kidnap their target and send him/her to a brainwashing camp.
You can't choose your relatives but you can choose not to have anything to do with them when they are toxic. I know this rule very well. Initially it's hard when you break off contact but it gets much easier as time passes. I like to say just remember the one year rule. It's in the first year that it's the hardest. First Christmas without them is different, the second Christmas without them is much easier. Even if whatever caused the separation gets resolved however it'll never be like it never happened. You can't un-ring the bell.
The favorite daughter’s delusions were deemed more important than anything else, and the result was the family splitting apart. This story is just sad.