@@devlincook5741 Good to hear that. :) Yep, the thumbgrip is good to have. I love having one. At first I go to third-party option, but it didn’t quite fit. Then I got the original. Works great, although overpriced for what it is.^^
@@dasignartshahaha I was the same, looked at all the 3rd party options but when I was in the Leica store getting a battery I tried the OG and it’s just so well made and light! Had to get it 😣
I'm really glad you demonstrated shooting (pew pew pew). Teasing, but I really love the re-enactments, too. You're a fun guy to watch. AND I like your perspective on things.
Yup, that about covers it. I've also shot the Q and M side by side quite a bit, I concur with every single point in here. I'd also add that anyone considering this dilemma, remember his context. I ultimately went with the M for myself because I don't need some of the things he mentioned. Likewise, I do need different focal lengths. When I was after something more like what he talks about here- such as a night out with family/friends or especially vacations- the Q was what I grabbed every single time. One kinda side note... we aren't dead in the water with the M by any means. It's just that our relationship with the moment will change. With the M we need to disconnect from the moment further in order to capture it. Not all the time- I do often shoot tons of great photos by just zone focusing with my family. But certainly there are many times where we have to slow it down and concentrate to get the shot. Perfect for meditative photography, less perfect when we're with friends and family. Worth noting: bliss when the two combine and we capture the moment precisely and exactly how it felt. Less "kid running maniacally," more "kid seeing something for the very first time." Anyway. Great video! Should be really helpful for people on the fence.
Wow! What a nice summary! Thank you. I also got quite a lot really nice photos with zone focus. If you really develop the craft of manually focussing, it gets sooo fast as well. And I love how you describe the change of the moment with the M10...that it sometimes pulles us further out of the moment than the Q. Reading this sounded like a poem to me just now. :)) Have a great one buddy!
I have an M10 and a Q2 and love both, but I do agree that a Q is probably better for everyday use for the autofocus and video capabilities. I do love using the M10, though, and will never sell it.
Currently struggling with choosing my next camera(s). Both of my kids just graduated from HS and are now going to college. I no longer need to be the family//team photographer for soccer, lacrosse, and all things that come along with small kids and teenagers. It is now my turn to once again 100% take photos for me, which means travel, street and protests (I love going to protests/rallys even for subjects I don’t agree with, to take pictures). My choice is either a new M11 or a used M10 and q3. Your video was very helpful. Thanks!
I'm happy to hear that it's helpful! :) I'd probably go with the M10 and Q3 if I'd make that choice. The M11 is really nice. However the M10 is still really similar in it's experience. In you case I'd probably go to a Leica Store and just have the Cameras in your hands, click the buttons, take some snaps and see if the M11 is so much nicer for you that you'd skip the M10 and Q3.
@@dasignarts that’s what I am doing right now. I had the q2 a few years ago but it didn’t fit the “dad” photographer thing. I have used the m10 previously and just got an m11 rental delivered yesterday (for 4 days). The m11 is really a stunningly beautiful camera, but I am finding myself using the patch and LV about 50/50 so far. My brain needs some retraining to rely on the RF for focus. The response is much appreciated, and I think your suggestion is spot on.
@@squiddah So cool! Happy to hear that. Great choice to rent the M11. :) The retraining to learn the rangefinder is also such a cool process. I found myself nailing the focus at 1.4 without looking down to the camera. Just pulling focus blindly and it works surprisingly often! Developing the motor ability in your hands is quite satisfying. ^_^ Please let me know your conclusion when it's time.
Great video and it’s the same experience I have, just as a family father of two small kids 😊 Since mine are still small I often hold one in one arm and then the rangefinder is out. Every other system with AF works in that case better, specially if they are small and compact like the X100VI. And when I have chances to take pictures of my kids with my Leica M cameras, they often run so quickly into the minimum focus distance - therefore here also no picture 😅 Great job and keep going - Grüße aus der Nachbarschaft und dir einen schönen Tag 😊
I have also two small kids and used the Leica M10 with the 35 1.4. Of course lots of moments I will miss. But in summary at the end of the year, when i start a photo book and look at the pictures. There are so wonderful shots of quiet moments, e.g. the kids are in a day dream or playing just by itself. There are no pictures of running kids and action but more intimate moments. With a fast camera i will miss these moments I think, because with the M10 i see different. But the Q2 is still on my list 😂 Grüße vom Bodensee!
@@tombube49 yes totally agree with you! Specially these intimate moments, when I’m able to capture them with my M6 wide open are just beautiful ☺️ But since they growing up so fast and they are energetic kids, I also want to capture these kinds of energy and therefore I use the other camera systems - that’s how I justify my camera collection and my wife only shakes her head, but she appreciates the extra image quality compared to smartphones 😅😃 Grüße zurück aus der Stuttgarter Gegend ✌️
Ja moin! :)) Toootally! In that case AF is really welcomed. The X100VI is lovely for that. And I totally see the close focus issue with the M. The little ones are so quick to come close haha Grüße gehen raus!!
@@tombube49 Totally agree on seeing differently with the M10. The photos just have this little edge in composition, since you're forced to work harder for the photo. Really satisfying nailing the shot. :) Bin gespannt, wie eine Q2 für dich funktioniert. :)) Grüße aus Berlin!
Actually I can. :) I use the Peak Design 3L Sling Bag and the zipper is so smooth that it really nicely opens fully with the right hand and then I can gram the camera, turn it on and start snapping. All with my right hand. It's probably harder with other bags. Have a good one! :)
@ OK, I thought you said from a pocket not bag. That got me confused. Q is not pocketable unless you have enormous pockets. Also you need to leave the lens cap off otherwise it’s not a single hand operation. Have a good one too!
The m10 with the Voigtländer has just more character and filmic renderings that’s why I’m keeping mine the combination is just special
Indeed, the Voigtländer and M10 is a nice combination. :)
Just found your channel, awesome work: photos, viewpoints and music. Subbed. Hope to see your channel grow! P.S. picking up a Q3 today…
Thank you man!
Congrats on your Q3!!!
How do you like it??
@@dasignarts it’s been amazing so far! Definitely needs the thumb grip though.
@@devlincook5741 Good to hear that. :)
Yep, the thumbgrip is good to have.
I love having one.
At first I go to third-party option, but it didn’t quite fit. Then I got the original. Works great, although overpriced for what it is.^^
@@dasignartshahaha I was the same, looked at all the 3rd party options but when I was in the Leica store getting a battery I tried the OG and it’s just so well made and light! Had to get it 😣
I'm really glad you demonstrated shooting (pew pew pew). Teasing, but I really love the re-enactments, too. You're a fun guy to watch. AND I like your perspective on things.
Thank you buddy! haha
Have a great weekend!!
Love the photos! 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you buddy!!! ^_^
Yup, that about covers it. I've also shot the Q and M side by side quite a bit, I concur with every single point in here.
I'd also add that anyone considering this dilemma, remember his context. I ultimately went with the M for myself because I don't need some of the things he mentioned. Likewise, I do need different focal lengths. When I was after something more like what he talks about here- such as a night out with family/friends or especially vacations- the Q was what I grabbed every single time.
One kinda side note... we aren't dead in the water with the M by any means. It's just that our relationship with the moment will change. With the M we need to disconnect from the moment further in order to capture it. Not all the time- I do often shoot tons of great photos by just zone focusing with my family. But certainly there are many times where we have to slow it down and concentrate to get the shot. Perfect for meditative photography, less perfect when we're with friends and family. Worth noting: bliss when the two combine and we capture the moment precisely and exactly how it felt. Less "kid running maniacally," more "kid seeing something for the very first time."
Anyway. Great video! Should be really helpful for people on the fence.
Wow! What a nice summary! Thank you.
I also got quite a lot really nice photos with zone focus. If you really develop the craft of manually focussing, it gets sooo fast as well.
And I love how you describe the change of the moment with the M10...that it sometimes pulles us further out of the moment than the Q.
Reading this sounded like a poem to me just now. :))
Have a great one buddy!
I have an M10 and a Q2 and love both, but I do agree that a Q is probably better for everyday use for the autofocus and video capabilities. I do love using the M10, though, and will never sell it.
Hey Jon,
Yeah! The combination is really nice. :)
Keep having fun!
Have a great weekend!
Great video and very valid points 👏
Thanks a lot! Have a good week 😁🙏🏻🙏🏻✨
Currently struggling with choosing my next camera(s). Both of my kids just graduated from HS and are now going to college. I no longer need to be the family//team photographer for soccer, lacrosse, and all things that come along with small kids and teenagers. It is now my turn to once again 100% take photos for me, which means travel, street and protests (I love going to protests/rallys even for subjects I don’t agree with, to take pictures). My choice is either a new M11 or a used M10 and q3. Your video was very helpful. Thanks!
Try the Fuji X100 or Ricoh GR3. I have the GR3 and the 28mm focal length works well..both are hard to get.
I'm happy to hear that it's helpful! :)
I'd probably go with the M10 and Q3 if I'd make that choice.
The M11 is really nice. However the M10 is still really similar in it's experience.
In you case I'd probably go to a Leica Store and just have the Cameras in your hands, click the buttons, take some snaps and see if the M11 is so much nicer for you that you'd skip the M10 and Q3.
@@rycm Also great options :)
@@dasignarts that’s what I am doing right now. I had the q2 a few years ago but it didn’t fit the “dad” photographer thing. I have used the m10 previously and just got an m11 rental delivered yesterday (for 4 days). The m11 is really a stunningly beautiful camera, but I am finding myself using the patch and LV about 50/50 so far. My brain needs some retraining to rely on the RF for focus. The response is much appreciated, and I think your suggestion is spot on.
@@squiddah So cool! Happy to hear that. Great choice to rent the M11. :)
The retraining to learn the rangefinder is also such a cool process. I found myself nailing the focus
at 1.4 without looking down to the camera. Just pulling focus blindly and it works surprisingly often!
Developing the motor ability in your hands is quite satisfying. ^_^
Please let me know your conclusion when it's time.
Great video and it’s the same experience I have, just as a family father of two small kids 😊
Since mine are still small I often hold one in one arm and then the rangefinder is out. Every other system with AF works in that case better, specially if they are small and compact like the X100VI.
And when I have chances to take pictures of my kids with my Leica M cameras, they often run so quickly into the minimum focus distance - therefore here also no picture 😅
Great job and keep going - Grüße aus der Nachbarschaft und dir einen schönen Tag 😊
I have also two small kids and used the Leica M10 with the 35 1.4. Of course lots of moments I will miss. But in summary at the end of the year, when i start a photo book and look at the pictures. There are so wonderful shots of quiet moments, e.g. the kids are in a day dream or playing just by itself. There are no pictures of running kids and action but more intimate moments.
With a fast camera i will miss these moments I think, because with the M10 i see different.
But the Q2 is still on my list 😂
Grüße vom Bodensee!
@@tombube49 yes totally agree with you! Specially these intimate moments, when I’m able to capture them with my M6 wide open are just beautiful ☺️
But since they growing up so fast and they are energetic kids, I also want to capture these kinds of energy and therefore I use the other camera systems - that’s how I justify my camera collection and my wife only shakes her head, but she appreciates the extra image quality compared to smartphones 😅😃
Grüße zurück aus der Stuttgarter Gegend ✌️
Ja moin! :))
Toootally! In that case AF is really welcomed.
The X100VI is lovely for that.
And I totally see the close focus issue with the M.
The little ones are so quick to come close haha
Grüße gehen raus!!
@@tombube49 Totally agree on seeing differently with the M10.
The photos just have this little edge in composition, since you're forced to work harder for the photo.
Really satisfying nailing the shot. :)
Bin gespannt, wie eine Q2 für dich funktioniert. :))
Grüße aus Berlin!
love the shirt
Thank you!! :))
I love it as well ^_^
You also cannot pull out the Q3 from a pocket and use one hand to shoot.
Actually I can. :)
I use the Peak Design 3L Sling Bag and the zipper is so smooth that it really nicely opens fully with the right hand and then I can gram the camera, turn it on and start snapping. All with my right hand. It's probably harder with other bags.
Have a good one! :)
@ OK, I thought you said from a pocket not bag. That got me confused. Q is not pocketable unless you have enormous pockets. Also you need to leave the lens cap off otherwise it’s not a single hand operation. Have a good one too!
@@xyphoto oh true, I said pocket. Got my wording wrong here.
But I ment my 3L Sling. And I never have a Lens Cap on it. Otherwise, you're right. :)
The Leicaman doesn’t do quick snaps
From experience, both works well :))
You should try Hasselblad x2d
Yeah!! I'd looove to try that Camera!