Even with his plot armor, I can’t help but love Patrick Colasaur. The scene of his marriage always puts a smile on my face. If you wanna know how Kira survived his battle with the Aegis: ua-cam.com/video/aoHE-cYmMsg/v-deo.html
Imagine being a regular grunt in SEED, and being told you have to fight a man that has died three times, and each time he comes back with a stronger gundam. I'd fucking go awol within a heartbeat.
As someone pointed out his plot armor seems mostly to be used to keep him from successfully killing himself. It's more like Plot Childproofing a house. To avoid An Heero Yui.
Patrick was the best part of 00 especially considering his commander literally denied him the chance to fight in Mobile suit so he would stay in the ship and make sure the ship would stay safe throughout the entire fight
I had this crazy theory as a kid that Herro was actually some kind of Terminator-like Android, because no normal human being could survive an explosion unscathed like that. Then I learned what Plot Armor was years later.
He also bent metal jail bars with his bare hands. I have heard rumors that he was originally supposed to be something other than a normal human early in development.
I think i read about it somewhere that state Heero gene already manipulated so he is have more capabilities about 1.5 times than normal human. Maybe thats what make him survive all that
I agree, I (unfortunately) put myself through Seed and Seed Destiny) and I was so dissapointed. Seed starts off great objectively, a rethinking of the UC....and then devolves into absolute nonsense with the MC. When the sequel came out, I was cautiously optimistic since it was a new lead, and I actually liked the first arc until halfway though the show, Kira shows back up and the rest just becomes nonsense. So when 00 came out and there were actually stakes at the end of season 1, it was a breath of fresh air. I really enjoyed that show specifically, especially with all the different characters and perspectives. I dont need a show to kill everyone, (IBO comes to mind, though that show was good too) but Seed almost became a parody of itself. And to be fair, even 00 did have some level of MC plot armor
@@jevonjoyeau7110 He'll never be truly immortal as "Patrick The Indestructible" for Paddy has the power of a strict wife on his side and is destined to make babies! Setsuna on the other hand... Can't make babies with a Gundam...
@@calthepeacelovingclover5935 in the manga Setsuna marries Marina. And I guess ELS fused cells probably somehow can make a child from an old woman. Couldnt see why not.
You have to look around every seed and destiny place in make the lore people him and mu. They not some cheap edited they create they take punishment beyond any normal humans mean. Freedom armor shield most the blow of it, kida gene did the rest didn't also survive temperature no human could not even handle. The strike was equipped with anti bean shield could not melt in outer layer of the world entering earth. The shield took most of that. Mu was thought be dead but other side found change him enough until later on in the show.
Zombiekand rule 2: don't forget to double tap or they may surprise you. No one really also check if they didn't survive or they did. They say no way they live when sho also one of those who can pull what beyond human understanding of body could take. Should let his emotions get better of him double check if kida was actually die...
They place on Kia list in any military in real life would place mu and kida on Mia as unconformed death but they are unsure of the living status. The first time Kida "kill" they however did place him Mia meaning they was likely chance of him still alive. The second time where thought they did the deed, they never confirmed his body even clear pieces of freedom in huge chucks were there never try to cockpit of it see prove of death. Where they put "kia" they should place "mia".
compared to one Iok, a Patrick at least doesn't cause the death of the main casts. Patrick survive war, got hitched to his,admittedly, rather scary CO, and survived an alien invasion. I'm not surprised if the dude evolved into an Innovator in the series for shits and giggles.
Did you know there is a joke about Patrick Colasaur. The joke goes because of Patrick Colasur's God like luck when IBO came around the creators and Sunrise had no more luck they could give out. Thus why IBO had almost its whole cast die at the end.
Remember when Heero was fighting Zechs' Tallgeese in the Heavyarms? The Tallgeese was literally hitting the Heavyarms over and over again with its beam saber, but it acted like a blunt weapon.
remember when Trowa and the Veyete blew up, with no way to actually get out of the blast radius yet he just floated around in space for probably a few weeks before he was found and all he had was some amnesia
@@devildavin to be fair, Wing pretty much showed that their pilots were pretty much immune to Self Destruct Damage. let's be honest, in real life Heero should have never survived self destructing the Wing, and let's not even mention Zechs when the Epyon blew off in the finale
Remember Heero was shot by the arm and leg, but he's fine. He has 20 broken bones, but he's fine. He twists back a broken bone in his leg after the terrible fall. The next day he's fine. He was comatosed for one month. But he's fine. He face planted from Gundam Zero cockpit after having a taste of the Zero system, but he's fine. Libra debris fall on his back to protect Relena, but he's fine. But Heero's plot armor can be due to his genes were altered/enhanced to make him the "Perfect Soldier". In other words, Gundam Capt. America
The big thing about Patrick Colasaur compared to all the others, is that he was likely a parody of that trope and OO just went all the way with it. As for the others, it really is tough to top Wing and Seed for main character plot armor and even more with Kiruto Jesus-kun cause he could of died so much within Seed.
I think the writers for 00 saw the plot armour of the earlier series and other shows and made him as a parody of that. And it worked as everyone likes Patrick.
While I recognise the collective hate boner so many people have for Kira, I'd argue that if you're thinking that the arguments in the video hold up to scrutiny, then you haven't considered the evidence in terms of the levels of science and technology as of 70CE. Firstly, with the duel between the Strike and the Aegis, the durability of the pilot suit isn;t being taken into account here. The fact is that Andrew Waltfeld survived far worse (an internal explosion where there was no phase shift to absorb any of the same type of explosion, he wasn't restrained in his pilot seat and restraints at the time of the explosion and it took weeks for him to get medical attention) yet he survived and recovered enough to be a mobile suit pilot within a couple of years. Furthermore, we know from that, that medical science had progressed to the point where not only was genetic engineering possible, but cybernetic prostheses were a reality. That is to say that the core biological trait of all coordinators was an enhanced immune system and more durable body as a direct response to Type-S Influenza. Yet the fact is that Kira was limp and unconscious when Lowe found him, Lowe carried him to Reverend Malchio, who put him in a medical capsule for critical care, at which point he was rushed to Aprilius, the PLANTS capital where the Kline family gave him what would have been the finest medical care that money could buy. Even then he was unconscious for days and possibly weeks, judging by how long it would have taken the Archangel to limp its way to Alaska. Even when he came to, he was bedridden and unable to move for days. Furthermore, as the Re:HOME does appear in SEED, the Astray mangas can reasonably be classed as canon, rather than a retcon. As for number 2, there is a credible explanation. The fact is that most of the fleets that were affected by Genesis, were built around a presumption that nuclear radiation and the shielding that it would require, were no longer an issue.As such, the shielding around the cockpit and command centre, is highly unlikely to be shielded against gamma radiation. Conversely, the nuclear Gundams would have been built so that the cockpits were shielded against reactor leaks when they were sitting on top of a nuclear reactor. We know from the Rau's comments during the Battle of Panama, that the reason that Strike Daggers were so easily defeated by the Gungnirs, was because their EMP shielding was inferior to even that of the GINNs. It stands to reason that cockpit shielding against radiation would also be a design concern. In fact I'm particularly reminded of the scene in Pacific Rim, where it's noted that the 1st generation Jaegers were rushed into production so quickly that no one had considered the possibility of them being cancer-killer deathtraps. As such, I'd argue that the only 3 craft that could have potentially protected their pilots from getting fried in the Battle of Jachin Due, were the Freedom, the Justice and the Providence. That leads me to the third instance. The fact is that the cutoff switch killing off the reactor immediately does indeed make perfect sense, due to how the N-Jammer works. The N-Jammer disrupts all nuclear chain reactions instantaneously, while the N-Jammer Canceller acts as a protective shielding device to protect the chain reactions of a nuclear reactor. Once the N-Jammer Canceller is deactivated, that protection stops and the chain reaction should reasonably stop with it. In fact we have a real-world example of an instantaneously stopping chain reaction as I understand it, in the form of pebble bed reactors. Pebble Bed Reactors have no emergency cut-off fail-safe systems, because they don't need them. They rely on a principle known as Dopler broadening, which states that the hotter a nuclear reactor runs at, the more space needed between atoms to allow for a chain reaction to be able to continue. The Dopler broadening that the reactor pebbles are designed around has a nominal operating temperature of 800-1200 degrees Celsius, while the graphite shielding has a melting point of 2000 degrees. However the pebbles themselves have been designed so in the event of a coolant failure, the moment the temperature rises to 1600 degrees Celsius, the spacing between atoms is too small to allow chain reactions to continue, and so the nuclear reactions are stopped dead in their tracks until the reactor cools down a nominal operating temperature. There's no reason to imagine that the N-Jammer Canceller and its effects wouldn't operate in a very similar manner. Incidentally, if you're wondering what the heck I'm talking about with pebble bed reactors, google "let a thousand reactors bloom" to find a 2004 wired article, which does a great job of explaining this real world technology. As for surviving the explosion, the thing to note is that what would have exploded, was most likely the battery used as an energy buffer, which makes the explosion no worse than what Kira and Athrun both survived when the Aegis self-destructed. However even then there's another thing to note, which is how valuable the pilots of these units would have been considered. We know that the nuclear Gundams were intended for the aces of the ZAFT millitary, meaning that you're talking about the highest trained and most skilled pilots of ZAFT. Given that the pilots at that level would be just as rare and valuable as the nuclear Gundams themselves, and far harder to replace, there's a strong likelihood that the pilot's compartment on them was heavily reinforced to protect the pilot from the suit exploding as much as possible. As for number 4, as it's established, any Natural wouldn't have survived it, but Kira isn't a Natural, he's a Coordinator and as I already noted, it;s an established fact that Coordinators, as a direct response to Type-S Influenza, were genetically engineered to have superior immune systems and therefore by reasonable extension, had bodies which could take far more of a punishment than naturals, while also being far more easily able to heal. Arguably when you're talking about plot armour, the question which someone should always ask is “is this plausible in universe” and the answer with these is essentially yes. In fact I'd argue that Heero Yui surviving the Wing self-destruction is way-more of a Lazarus moment than Kira's brushes with death. As such, I'm simply not convinced that when it comes to Kira Yamato, there's enough lazy writing there to constitute plot armour.
@@sabercyclone041 Kira was not a coordinator. He was a perfect-coordinator. But yeah. It was part of the story that Kira was even more superhuman than other coordinators, so it was plausible to me that he would have low-level regeneration.
@@renalexander3653 Your argument comes across as somewhat hyperbolic. A "perfect co-ordinator" simply refers to a coordinator who has successfully gestated in an artificial womb, which eliminates the variables caused by the mother's own womb. Yes Coordinators had more durable bodies better immune systems and they bodies were better at healing than most naturals, however given that it's fail obvious when you look into the CE timeline that Coordinators were created directly in response to the Type-S Influenza pandemic, that's pretty understandable. Also he hardly had low level regeneration, he was just lucky and had the benefit of the best medical care that money could buy. The CE era had status capsules and cybernetic limbs as standard. Lowe found Kira within minutes of the explosion, where he was incapacitated and immobile, he was immediately placed in a stasis capsule and was flown to the PLANTS and he received the best medical treatment that money could buy. Even then he was unconscious for 10 days and bedridden for an extra 4. The reason the injuries don't look like they took that much if a toll is because the show time jumps in very subtle ways.
I'm glad someone called out the Shiro ball plot armor. It was pretty infuriating to have everyone tell me the series is oh so realistic just to see that scene so early.
@@AssaultRider555 I'm pretty sure the Ball K variant is one of the more combat-ready balls. So ya i would expect that it has more armor on it. Which even then technically the ball is actually at the advantage. It has a smaller profile, it had better sensors, better thrust, acceleration, and was cheap and easy to produce. The next advantage lies in its curved armor. All those 120mm shells from the Zaku fuckin bounced off the round armor and for the most part he probably threw off the enemies aim by throwing that space debris. If anything Shiro was just ridiculously lucky that none of the shots bounced into his equipment (which if you watch kinda did and busted up the ball a bit, none of the important bits tho). The ball vs Zaku is def not a stretch and could totally not be plot armor and I would say most of his saving grace was just the fact the ball was round. The best plot armor moment for Shiro would have to be the EZ-8 being cut in half by the big ass laser cannon or him fighting Custom Gouf.
@@Yakasuki Mainly that cut in half one. He could reasonably survive the Gouf and indeed, Norris is a man of honor, a pity he worked with the Space Nazis that Zeon is.
I'm surprised to hear that people call that show realistic. It was enjoyable and has the coolest gundam fight ever near the end, but there's absolutely nothing realistic about 90% of what happens on it, not that I remember at least. If I had to call a Gundam show/OVA realistic it would definitely be war in the pocket. That ova was so fucking good.
Regarding Kira’s atmospheric re-entry, he still got pretty feverish from the ordeal and was bed-ridden. Meanwhile, both Yzak and Dearka also fell to Earth and did not seem to suffer any serious injury. I’m inclined to believe that Coordinators in general are more heat-resistant than Naturals.
I remember Kira also mentioning that the the Strike was theoretically capable of unassisted atmospheric re-enter, according to its manual. Though he didn't get to fully test it because he would otherwise been far too separated from the Archangel, leading the Archangel to adjust it's course to end up with the Strike.
@@Hanetsune You're right. Badgiruel agrees with Kira on the Strike's manual and specifications, but also mentions that it was an untested feature and they weren't sure how hot the cockpit would get (meaning the pilot could potentially get cooked inside even if the Strike itself survived reentry). The Archangel's doctor also mentioned in the episode after that the cockpit got hotter than a natural could handle, so it was a combination of the Strike's capabilities and Kira's resistance to heat as a coordinator. A regular mobile suit of the First Bloody Valentine War, like a GINN, would have blown up on reentry (we do see Athrun survive atmospheric interface in a ZAKU in GSD, so presumably by the time the Second Bloody Valentine War erupts, regular mobile suits are tougher), and a natural pilot in the Strike may have still died to the heat - these are the two factors why Kira could survive that situation.
Thank you for pointing out Heero's plot armor. I'll admit Kira's plot armor is extreme, but its annoying that Heero's plot armor is constantly ignored.
Not ignored, just taken as a given. The universe just will not allow Heero to kill himself until Relena gets to Peacecraft his Yuy. (It's in her contract.)
Never had issue with kira surviving, they need him to drive up gunpla sales. People forget Gundam animes are no longer a Mecha anime but expensive commercial of a toy line.
I absolutely question the skill of whoever wrote 08th team. Surviving the zaku point-blank shot was stupid, and could have easily been remedied by having the gun jam or be out of ammo or something. There, a million times more believable and they could've saved money on animation without the bloodborne dodge.
Totally, and same with his fight in Ep1. Treize did this same thing as that fighting the Leo Mobile Dolls to prove a point to the Romefeller Foundation. He ate almost the entire drum mags from three Leos without a scratch. And while the scene of him using his Leo to waste them was cool because it was one of the few times we see a Leo do something other than explode...he should have been dead already. But the Zaku MG in his face not harming him was retarded. I mean, the concussion of Dell's impact from his Zaku falling over was enough to kill him but Shiro ate that blast wave like it was a stiff breeze. Also, the force of the rocket he launched into Topp's crotch should have harmed him also.
I think 08th MS team definitely had a more gritty, realistic art style but I agree that the mobile suit mechanics that get shown on 0080 are also some favorites of mine as well
@@ebindelgado9660 yeah, the only problem the OVA had was that the GMs were given the grunt syndrome, even when they were established to have good stats to reliably compete against the Doms and Gelgoogs. Especially with the GM Sniper 2 that had a performance that matched the original Gundam
As a note on #4 surviving the zaku shot, a 120mm cannon has a measured decibel rating of approximately 190 when fired... 140 causes instant death... so he survived two point blank shockwaves that should have turned his squishy bits into jelly
A rocket launcher has 180 db ... a tank shot has 190 db or so, and many soldiers have experienced 190 db in almost close range. The shockwave is another story.
Shiro's Plot armor is the most egregious. When he dodges 2 Zaku shots while on the ground, at least a lot of the other BS in Gundam has newtype magic or OP mobile suits but he's literally just a guy and he dodged 2 giant bullets without a scratch.
@@NexGenRogue I would agree with war in the pocket as it's the only one I have seen. I even have a younger cousin that looks a bit like the kid and acted like him when he discovered gundam.
Ibo tried to save Mika till the end with side characters throwing their long range weapons trying to go melee with barbatos, teleporting at eins back at the end of season 1 for no reason and miraculously dodging hashmals tail. Every mc has a plot armor
the MEME MACHINE HIMSELF. I honestly think they were taking a dig at Destiny and Kira with Patrick by having this stupid idiot that survived his own tom cruise BS over and over and is an IN UNIVERSE JOKE.
The fact that Keith survives 0083 without a scratch is pretty incredible. Kou gets messed up several times, Cima, Gato and Burning are all KIA. Even Captain Synapse was executed for mutiny. Keith just gets his amazon woman and that's about it. Good for Keith.
@@knghtbrd I went back and rewatched the clip. Keith isn't seen in a Titans uniform like the rest of the pilots from the Albion. All we see is him piloting a Gelgoog back on Earth.
I think the Graze Ein smashing nearly every Tekkadan and associated Ms with blood flying everywhere in the cockpits just for the pilots to have a few bandages on later on is probably one of the silliest.
I feel that was less plot armor and moreso subverting expectations. It did cripple two of the individuals for months and left one permanently paralyzed.
@ryandugan9176 tbh ibo had a massive amount of plot armour, look at s1 again and tell me gaelio isn't fucking dead Mika would have beat julieta if he actually fought her but he doesn't because the plot demands it And Orga acts stupid because the plot demands it (although that could just be bad writing rather than plot armour) Mcgillis' whole thing in S2 was definitely just bad writing
Also, I'm sorry to say this but Jerid Meesa deserves at least an honorable mention since he was one of the few characters that live almost all the Zeta series were he survive many close calls, getting promoted after each defeat and getting new mobile suit like there were candy. I know he died at the end but man, he should've died like in episode 28
Really, when you think about it, Patrick has plot armor specifically because he is the universe's punching bag. Even his wife said that his "Immortal Colasaur" nickname wasn't something he should be proud of even though he, and by extension us, are very proud of it anyway. As for Top 3... bad writing and behind-the-scenes drama. Plain and simple. A show's flaws can only go so far before it becomes obvious that something went wrong and the show is suffering for it. I can't hate Kira Yamato because it's obvious that he was at the mercy of some terrible writers and was written in ways he was never supposed to. Basically a Troll Fic, but unironic.
Let's not forget that Shiro and Aina should've at least had severe burns from the beam sniper rifle,if not just vaporized. Also when they both took out the Apsalus.
Those Zaku MGs apparently fire different loads than standard MBTs, along with the Federation's own YHI YF MG-100mm. Notice how eve in the 08th MS Team opening, they're firing surprisingly close to soldiers outside of the cockpit. In fact...everything aside from Mu's BS, I feel like Kakarot's been lacking a lot of research here. It even states that the RB-79 K-type ball was made to fight specifically alongside Federation MS due to the lack of fielded MS at the time. Could it have taken 'THAT' many 120mm rounds? Eh, probably not, but it is indeed stated that the Balls were up-armored extensively to even stand a chance.
I liked how everytime you mentioned plot in the Seed stuff, Murrue pops up lol. I knew that Kira would be the number one use of plot armor, including his infamous survive from a nuke. And then Mu got retconned into Destiny despite how great his death was in seed. Anyway, great job!
I'm almost certain that's the ONLY reason why she managed to survive as long as she did, because as far as doing her job goes she was definitely no Bright. I'm also convinced the writers of Seed were absurdly horny.
@@shinigamimiroku3723 Yeah considering the fact that I came across a GIF file that has a lot of boobs bouncing all of them were from seed I would not be surprised at the majority of the guys who did seed were horny lol.
I think the thing that makes Heero's EW feat different though is that the INTERNAL frame of Wing Zero is DESIGNED to withstand all of its armor and such stripped, still able to fight to the end even then. That's the incredible technology of Wing Zero
In Mwu's case, my leading theory is that he died in SEED. Neo Roanoke's a clone of him(because you know that both sides, at this time, have ceased giving a shit about ethics, and it ain't the first time a Da Flaga clone has been produced...right, Mr. le Creuset?) who ended up inheriting some of the original Mwu's memories, and, when push came to shove, decided he liked the idea of being Mwu a lot better then being Neo.
@@ninjavanish2361 ain't Carbon Humans are just humans with memory of the deceased best pilots? Copying the memories is probably much cheaper and faster than cloning and having none of the clone's fatal flaw.
@@Joshua_N-A but it’s possible to regain their personalities before the whole experimentation went underway and keep certain memories, so they can remember next time they fought something that’s familiar to them such as Stella.
@@ninjavanish2361 like an on/off switch. Sounds much safer than block words method. It also could lessens training time and keeping mental stability. The memory would be just the pilot's combat memory, how the pilot fought previously.
I guess they ended 08th MS Team early when Shiro realized his plot armor was wearing off. You can tell because he was missing a leg at series end. Smart to get out while you're ahead!
To me the thing with Heero is that show goes out of it's way to show you that he's not...normal. There was that scene where he busts Duo out of cell by literally bending the bars open so Duo could escape. I honestly feel that somewhere there's a limited issue Wing comic that gives us some crazy backstory for him. Also, in EW he doesn't casually get out of the cockpit, he literally tumbles out of it in an almost half dead fashion. Also, for all the hate I share with everyone here for Kiira, he WAS fighting with his hands tied against Shinn. Not only was he defending the Archangel, he was also fighting without the intent to kill, while Shinn was hellbent on killing him.
Well, to be fair, before Duo rescued Heero, the people that were analyzing him said that there was something weird about him, and after that Heero just opened SOME FREAKING STEEL CELL BARS with his bare hands
@@chassegallerie2910 I never said otherwise. I will say, however, that it was demonstrated to be physically enhanced on Heero's part. He's shown to outright have super human strength and durability, along with a boosted recovery rate from injury. Im not sure if that's the case for Kira...but again, I never made an argument against him.
Yeh, at least heero is implied to be an enhaced human somehow with all that bullshit from the manga and frozen teardrop on how heero's father is a clone of the original heero yui and heero itself had a clone that was further augmented or something like that, shit was so convoluted i quickly lost the thread but he being an augmented human won't be worse than quatre being a newtype
Instead of a character, I think some mobile suits/ mobile armors actually lose plot armor sometimes, the best example I can think of is one Destroy Gundam taking out entire cities and ZAFT units, and then five of them get taken out relatively easy by just 2 mobile suits, (although the Destiny and Legend Gundam are still very powerful machines)
My only logical explanation was that the 5 units were "massproduced" (or rather limited-production) units with lower specs than the original prototype piloted by Stellar. But well, I guess that was too complicated.
@@kakarot197 Ugh, I hate when that happens...it'd only make sense if it was a prototype midboss, not for a MAJOR obstacle in the series! All they did was make it like the SRW game and made it less threatening.
@@Aptarus that could be possible, I would think it would take a lot of energy to make those things and with the war turning against the earth alliance they may have cut corners.
That's not plot armor, the 1st destroy seems powerful because zaft troop don't have mean to counter it, they still use older and non melee machine. If freedom and impulse could beat it then no way destiny and legend which is much more superior ms could lose, also shin know destroy weakness
A lot made of Heero's personal plot armour, but I'd argue that Wufei's ability to extend his plot armour to regular mobile suits he piloted is more impressive.
Ah the Inmortal Patrick Colasour. *the destruction of his suit and him surviving with very little injury is played off for laughs and is a running gag in the series. Whenever he's on screen it's pretty much guaranteed that he's going to be shot down
Also the Dublin drop, when we learned that having an entire colony fall deals little damage outside the city, but having a partially destroyed colony crash wipes out half of the planet's population.
Heero: "Your shelter is secured is it?" Little girl:" Of course it is! See for your self just how powerless you are." Heero: "Roger that." Little girl: *gasp* *Wing Zero is blown to bits and falls to the ground from super high up* (Heero has plot armor)
Don't forget that it's literally falling apart around him due to damage from fighting Altron _AND_ reentry while also being targeted by anti-air fire...into already compromised armor. Heero's plot armor was ridiculous.
I'm not a huge Gundam fan, but every time I watch any of it it seems to me like all the mech armor in the shows adjusts its effectiveness according to what the plot demands. Sometimes things blow up from any hit, sometimes things take absurd amounts of punishment. Also mechs simply cannot be hit by weapons mounted on spaceships or tanks for some reason.
While it's not perfect, the original Gundam is actually pretty good in this regard. For the most part, Zakus can do nothing to Amuro unless they go into melee combat, as Char did. But, as Zeon upgrades their arsenal, the Gundam becomes more vulnerable. It was a pretty cool way to show Amuro's progression from relying on his technology to relying on his skill and intuition
Gundam nuclear reactors are made out of the same stuff as Halo slipspace engines, in that they explode if you look at them funny. And then F91 weaponizes that concept.
Only you wouldn't have gotten a nuclear explosion. The instant the N-Jammer Canceller got shut down, the reactor in the Freedom would have become just as much of a glorified paperweight as every other nuclear reactor on the Earth from the time that N-Jammers were injected into the planet.
The explosion wasn't from the reactor. Fission reactors aren't bombs. It was from the Minerva's positron cannon. Reference previous episodes where Minerva uses its positron cannon while fighting on Earth, each time resulting in spectacular explosions.
Sunrise: "Hey we need to release strike freedom but how do we destroy freedom?" "I dunno, just go nuclear blast both characters and back like nothing happened "
Considering Strike Freedom on the paper is just a slightly taller Freedom with golden limbs. I'm not sure why they couldn't just send Freedom to the factory and excuse the new suit as an upgraded unit. IBO did it with the Barbatos, and so it got a bucket load of variants for real-life model kits. Lacus sure must have some of those upgrades lying around her house. Even without the IBO example, Fukuda had no excuse to not thinking of this simple solution. He directed Cyber Formula, the show based on Formula One. He did have his characters getting upgrades just because the factory come up with new cars instead of forcing them to crash into a coma every single time.
I dunno about plot armor to Heero, but when I saw him split 2 steel bars with electricity with his bare hands twice (1 deactivating a self destruct device, 2nd when rescuing Duo) I was convinced that he is a Super Soldier, a genetically enhanced human, a mutant or anything
Honorable mention to Leina inexplicably not dying on Gundam ZZ. That one totally looked like a poor rewrite on Tomino's part after he regretted killing her and it sucked because its one of the few deaths he's properly handled well. It completely broke ZZ for me and the show never quite recovered after that.
Sword Of Symphogear Sorry It been awhile since I saw that show I only remember the main protagonists get two girls Either they break up with one or one dieing
To Wing's credit, they do try to hint that aside from undergoing rigorous training, Heero's body was augmented in space. Yes it doesnt explain much, but they tried, lol. "Perfect Soldier," indeed.
Even Patrick has some level of plot armor in video games. In SD Gundam G Generation Crossrays, Patrick has the skill "Immortal Colasour". The skill description says: "When HP reaches 0, unit (piloted by Patrick) revives with 1 HP once per stage."
@@RickyFSeiei It certainly is valid. The Plot Armor protects you long enough to deliver you to your rightful place in the plot, in this case Idiok Kuntjan's well deserved death in the hands of Space Guts.
For any nonhistorians out there At 3:33 when he said “it’s like taking on a panzer 4 or a chi ha against a bob semple” he was referring to the ball being the the panzer 4 or chi ha and the bob semple being the zaku
I think this comment needs something added to make the sarcasm more obvious. I mean, it's obviously sarcasm because the explanation is so wrong it's backwards...
Have to give Patrick props too for going back out there time after time after time of getting blown away. Even someone who thinks they're lucky has to have that thought that this could be the one they don't come back from.
We already know that the comments will be a minefield. Oh lord what have you done. And you say that a bob semple tank can't kill a tank? It could take on the yamato singlehandedly, both the ship and our Lord and savior
@@kakarot197 Nah, Kira still got F-ed up in Strike Rouge during Destiny. Now, if you put *Heero* in the Bob Semple tank, *then* it can take over the world 😎.
Super/Perfect Coordinator Kira, and Heero who canonically has some kind of superhuman enhancements, which are never addressed as far as I'm aware (where/when/how?) "A plasma sword through a nuclear generator is probably not the best idea." Well, of course it wasn't. It was Shinn's idea, after all.
@@PorktatoesSSRB I just checked, apparently the laser blade on the sword is able to extend to the tip of the blade to pierce ps armor. That plus shinn adjusting to take advantage of kira’s fighting style and the impulses ability to replace damaged parts in addition to its combat packs in mid battle made the impulse the perfect counter to the freedom
It just proves that most of Seed Destiny was just bad fanficiton. Years later, Kira and Shinn's battle is still controversial. I never considered Shinn surviving the end of Seed part of his plot armor. Attributed the damage to be from his battle with Providence. Plus, he flew straight up before Genesis fired. So he could have made it out of the blast radius.
At least they fleshed out Heero's back story to include a number of medical experiments to give him enhanced combat abilities and survivability. You know the plot armor is intense when they rewrite your origin.
Coming from a Wing lover, you could give almost every significant pilot in the show a mention! (Spoilers?) Heero: This video's info plus the time he fell out of Wing Zero onto his face on a metal deck. Duo: Takes a beam Gatling barrage in a Leo and doesn't explode (Trowa could have intentionally missed critical areas) but then there's the time he tried to self destruct and it just... Didn't happen. Trowa: In the Vayeate when it exploded. Quartre: Shot down in a fighter jet and crashes (totally fine) Wufei: Self stabs Shenlong to use the explosion to escape. This could get a pass. Zechs: Epyon's Destruction Noin: Takes a full Leo Cannon blast and it does negligible damage (even though that weapon just took out a more armored Leo in the same scene) Lady Une: Flies Wing into the Libra's main cannon. And Treize: Was in a Leo getting shot up by two mobile doll Leos on full auto. No damage. But, well, he lost that armor later, so I guess it evens out. Although, considering his plan, I guess it's more like he just decided to turn it off.
@@santiagogarcia1606 I appreciate the factoid. I had a feeling it survived, since that is the easiest way to explain Zechs' survival. It's still plot armor (imo) as it means the Epyon survived the Libra's power source exploding at point blank, and the hole in its chest from the battle (which was near the cockpit) was also facing that blast.
Include the mobile suits as plot armor in Gundam Wing. They mentioned no more mobile suits at the end of Endless Waltz. Then Frozen Teardrop happened, and now mobile suits returns. And from what I heard, Epyon made its return on Frozen Teardrop, with a replacement arm.
I have one that most seem to overlook. Athrun and Meyrin when Shin shish kabobed the GOUF. Shin's blade hit into, if not near, the cockpit and machine exploded in a body of water afterwords. If the explosion didn't killed them, drowning would. I would also add water pressure, but I'll be kind and say it was shallow. I imagine Waltfeld must felt cheated considering he lost some body parts and lover from and exploded MS, while Athrun and Meyrin got out with simply recoverable injuries.
@@barrybend7189 we can't forget about losing an arm , killing the filthy greenskin that did it with the one he had left and took the orks cybork arm as replacement. This might very well be the only commisar of the imperium who could earn respect from Catachan Jungle Warriors wouldn't even slit his throat shaving like most other commisars
Besides, most of his Mobile Suits (in the anime) had the cockpit located in the waist - for lack of a better word - module. Watch Gundam 00 Season 1 Episode 24, for more information.
Ali al-Saachez definitely deserves an honourable mention in S1 of 00. Lets all remember that Ali ate the beam cannon blast from the GN arms type D, the Blast caught the lower half of the throne Zwei, and destabilized the GN drive. That looked like and should have been death. But ho, in season two Ali is just back with the excuse that he was severely burned but that was the worst of it. I want to point now to Louise who was simply caught in the radiation effect of Tau drive particles, the particles poisoned her, giving her crippling headaches, nausea, shaking, and preventing her wounds from healing or taking to transplant surgery for years. But Ali, a guy who sad on a drive that exploded, was able to recover. I am calling big bull. Also as an Aside Ali is also one of my two favorite characters from 00 but doesnt change this is nonsense.
Heero's DNA was apparently altered sometime prior to episode ZERO or during training to be the Wing Gundam's pilot is what I read somewhere @Kakarot197.
I read there was some cloning involved as well and also ambiguity on who was heero's father, the original heero yui or a clone of heero yui... But all dat stuff was way convoluted and some of it being part of frozen teardrop AKA "nanomachines, son" gundam idk anymore...
@@edvonrattlehead2135 If I'm remembering correctly, Heero's father was the OZ Operative that had assassinated the original Heero Yuy. Odin Lowe was then in turn assassinated, leaving his son Odin Lowe Jr. to be picked up by Doctor J and given the code-name Heero Yuy
@@edvonrattlehead2135 i never heard of the cloning bit before just that he got a treatment that turned his bones into metal, like spartan II's from halo.
@@nathanielarthurhardy419 yeh, some of the pages from gundam wing: frozen teardrop that told events prior to peration meteor not only made multiple implications on the identity of odin lowe and how he wasmore than just human and things among those lines but also how odin lowe jr./heero was remarkably similar to the original heero yui when he was young, i honestly didn't follow frozen teardrop closely nor beyond the designs of the gundams mainly for the amount of bullshit on how the writing went full kojima with such a boner for nanomachines, heero awakening from a hybernation/cryogenesis pod with the mission to kill relena and many more stuff like duo getting a quite short end off the stick and some serious turbo bullshit regarding trowa and quatre
@@ORLY911 well the whole cloning bit was quite ambiguous and there were lots of things that were implied, but the few that were specifically stated is that doctor j was training 2 kids, one was an augmented clone of the other, one of the things doctor j did was giving both kids a leo that they had to modify and improve, i think it was left ambiguous if the heero we know was the clone...
I was expecting you to talk about how Heero was able to take hits from the Virgo mobile doll cannons IN A LEO several times without immediately exploding. A dozen direct hits later... the arm malfunctions, THAT’S IT.
The new kid from Metaverse is giving Kira a run for his money, but with a plot naginata. I love when Shinn beats Freedom by simply doing is fucking homework on how Kira fights and the goes after him in full bad motherfucker mode.
12:45 That is not correct. The source of that explosion is not the Freedom. The source is the Minerva’s Tanhauser beam. This can even be seen clearly in the ending still shot. The Freedom can be seen in the water, with the Impulse floating above. Then, the actual explosion is seen way in the background as a rising mushroom cloud.
I mean there was also setsuna, I still don't understand how he survived. sure he got stab near his cockpit but the explosion should of at least done more damage and also maybe rip his pilot suit, which would also kill him cause space is a vacuum.
After rewatching Gundam Wing recently, I firmly believe that everyone's favorite schizophrenic waifu Lady Une deserves at least an honorable mention. I'm pretty sure we all know which scene I'm referring to...
Heero self destruct is more point blank in the explosion than kira with aegis, plus atleast there are some explanations why kira survived whether it be genetics or cancelling njammer canceller.. not denying plot armor but I believe heero should be number 1
Which is kinda weird tbh as Gundam Seed brought the new found love to Gundam franchise back then, as well as broaden its market with its female audiences/fans. Even more so with there is no denying it has some of the best gundam design line up in one series.
@@christianhernandez517 Heero is more akin to captain america. He is a super soldier, he receive tough training and gene manipulation. He also later got frozen and wake up in the future just like captain america
Missing is the one that infuriated me the most in Gundam Wing. That was when the Mercurius piloted by Heero took a direct hit from Wing Zero's combined Twin Beam Cannons without a scratch, which is complete bullshit. Yes, he had the Planet Defensor shield deployed, but remember a single shot from those cannons destroyed an entire colony a minute before. Plus the discs were clearly obliterated the second the beam touches them, so the Mercurius depended on its (plot) armor to take the blunt of the blast. Then, making matters worse, Trowa survives blocking a shot with the Vayate without the protection of an energy field. If you want to appreciate this miracles, here´s a link: ua-cam.com/video/hlBT4tIkIkM/v-deo.html
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Even with his plot armor, I can’t help but love Patrick Colasaur. The scene of his marriage always puts a smile on my face.
If you wanna know how Kira survived his battle with the Aegis: ua-cam.com/video/aoHE-cYmMsg/v-deo.html
Comedy makes plot armor work
One of the best side characters in Gundam.
When rebirth truly happen, he probably trap into build diver series.
For Patrick, his plot armor is also death flag destroyer!!
patrick is the hero gundam deserves
"Is this plot armor?" "No, this is Patrick."
why isn't this the top comment
Good one buddy
Because Patrick is Gundam 00's Waspinator
Patrick: This is plot armor! I am destined to survive!
Plot: No Patrick, it's comedy armor, you're too funny to die.
"what's the difference"
Imagine being a regular grunt in SEED, and being told you have to fight a man that has died three times, and each time he comes back with a stronger gundam.
I'd fucking go awol within a heartbeat.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Worst he'll do is just incapacitate you, so you'll be fine.
Personally I’d just dip as soon as I saw an opportunity and ask if Terminal was accepting applications.
After Kira gets "killed" in the new SEED series, he'll come back piloting the Celestial Freedom.
By then he doesn’t kill tho. So I mean losing to him can’t be that bad, unless you just have a really big ego 🤷🏽♂️
When you realize that Patrick survived all the way to Build Divers
Huh, did he die somewhere or did he just enter afterlife like enter a house?
@@justnoob8141 no one knows.
@@justnoob8141 nah maybe it was just patrick clone instead char clone
This guy survived FOUR full Gundam seasons.
That's we call him Immortal Patrick
It's funny how Heero's plot armor exists mostly to stop him from killing himself.
Heero: I want to die.
Writers: NO! Get back in the Gundam, Shi... I mean, Heero!
the plot armor in gundam wing all along was a message about suicide, yea i completely agree
He is heero yu after all the pick of all pricks. He has to learn humanity before dying
He just saw relena as a mirror
It's more like Plot-Childproofing.
Heero doing self destruct is just him flexing his plot armor
Mission accepted
He also jumped out of a hospital and pulled his parachute WAY to late. He should have been a damn puddle.
@@imonit1177 Duo must've been impressed of that, not of Heero's stunt
As someone pointed out his plot armor seems mostly to be used to keep him from successfully killing himself. It's more like Plot Childproofing a house. To avoid An Heero Yui.
Not to mention he just fixt his broken leg like that lol
Patrick was the best part of 00 especially considering his commander literally denied him the chance to fight in Mobile suit so he would stay in the ship and make sure the ship would stay safe throughout the entire fight
Dude is literally the Master Chief of 00; luckiest man alive and the entire series knows it. And USES it.
@@KillerOrca unlike master chief he's not a virgin
Is it still plot armor when it's used for the plot versus the plot using it?
Kati exploited the plot armor of Patrick and he is happy to share it
Master chief is no longer a virgin
What's I've learned from this is that the safest place in the Gundam universe is inside the Freedom's cockpit.
Nah it was Kira’s last name that saved him, that last name has already saved a certain spacebattleship a lot of times😂😂😂😂 YAAMAATOO,
That Excalibur is pointing at the Freedom real precariously.
I had this crazy theory as a kid that Herro was actually some kind of Terminator-like Android, because no normal human being could survive an explosion unscathed like that. Then I learned what Plot Armor was years later.
My coworker and I constantly joke that there was a Lazarus pit somewhere on earth
-it's funny I got the same impression, probably because they constantly mention his inhuman power
He also bent metal jail bars with his bare hands. I have heard rumors that he was originally supposed to be something other than a normal human early in development.
I think i read about it somewhere that state Heero gene already manipulated so he is have more capabilities about 1.5 times than normal human. Maybe thats what make him survive all that
Yeah and when he jumped out of the window and survived about a 1km fall, hitting the mountain all the way down.
Also Patrick's survival in 00 always struck me as the writers making a parody of plot armor very very much deliberately.
exactly, he's a gag character
I agree, I (unfortunately) put myself through Seed and Seed Destiny) and I was so dissapointed. Seed starts off great objectively, a rethinking of the UC....and then devolves into absolute nonsense with the MC.
When the sequel came out, I was cautiously optimistic since it was a new lead, and I actually liked the first arc until halfway though the show, Kira shows back up and the rest just becomes nonsense.
So when 00 came out and there were actually stakes at the end of season 1, it was a breath of fresh air. I really enjoyed that show specifically, especially with all the different characters and perspectives. I dont need a show to kill everyone, (IBO comes to mind, though that show was good too) but Seed almost became a parody of itself.
And to be fair, even 00 did have some level of MC plot armor
When I first saw Kira being called "Jesus" I thought it was his actual second name due to how ridiculous Gundam naming conventions can get.
I know right
Would have been funny if it was setsunas
Patrick got the girl which makes him OP.
And a girl that was literally the polar opposite of him. 00 writers got jokes
And in a Gundam show at that, all the more without suffering any lasting physical or brain damage...
He one ups setsuna in that regard
@@MaddJakd ENFP type personality is perfect fit for INTJ
@@HeroXAS plus his girl was better than any of Setsuna’s interests.
Setsuna: "I am Gundam."
Patrick: "I am Immortal."
ya know how does that 2000 simulation works now
Funny how setsuna ended up becoming immortal in the ending
@@jevonjoyeau7110 He'll never be truly immortal as "Patrick The Indestructible" for Paddy has the power of a strict wife on his side and is destined to make babies! Setsuna on the other hand... Can't make babies with a Gundam...
@@calthepeacelovingclover5935 in the manga Setsuna marries Marina. And I guess ELS fused cells probably somehow can make a child from an old woman. Couldnt see why not.
@@Janenba Did they have a child though? And why didn't they put it in the Anime, i'm guessing it was crucial story for the manga?
Kira "built different" Yamato
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Literal 🤪
You have to look around every seed and destiny place in make the lore people him and mu. They not some cheap edited they create they take punishment beyond any normal humans mean.
Freedom armor shield most the blow of it, kida gene did the rest didn't also survive temperature no human could not even handle. The strike was equipped with anti bean shield could not melt in outer layer of the world entering earth. The shield took most of that. Mu was thought be dead but other side found change him enough until later on in the show.
Zombiekand rule 2: don't forget to double tap or they may surprise you. No one really also check if they didn't survive or they did. They say no way they live when sho also one of those who can pull what beyond human understanding of body could take. Should let his emotions get better of him double check if kida was actually die...
They place on Kia list in any military in real life would place mu and kida on Mia as unconformed death but they are unsure of the living status.
The first time Kida "kill" they however did place him Mia meaning they was likely chance of him still alive. The second time where thought they did the deed, they never confirmed his body even clear pieces of freedom in huge chucks were there never try to cockpit of it see prove of death. Where they put "kia" they should place "mia".
IBO basically low key making fun of the fans by giving the antagonists plot armor
So hard to hate Patrick because he's funny character, and not annoying
That's true Patrick is more than just character, he's A Mascot
I have zero liking for Patrick I honestly wanted him gone
@@GnosisZX i'm pretty sure this is considered heracy
compared to one Iok, a Patrick at least doesn't cause the death of the main casts. Patrick survive war, got hitched to his,admittedly, rather scary CO, and survived an alien invasion. I'm not surprised if the dude evolved into an Innovator in the series for shits and giggles.
@@HeroXAS most be a secret Iok admirer.
@@teachme5334 Thanks now I have to go watch Iok die again cause I remember his existence.
Did you know there is a joke about Patrick Colasaur. The joke goes because of Patrick Colasur's God like luck when IBO came around the creators and Sunrise had no more luck they could give out. Thus why IBO had almost its whole cast die at the end.
Remember when Heero was fighting Zechs' Tallgeese in the Heavyarms? The Tallgeese was literally hitting the Heavyarms over and over again with its beam saber, but it acted like a blunt weapon.
To be fair the heavyarms is the second most armored.
remember when Trowa and the Veyete blew up, with no way to actually get out of the blast radius yet he just floated around in space for probably a few weeks before he was found and all he had was some amnesia
@@devildavin yeah, that was pretty ridiculous as well.
@@barrybend7189 which is odd because the Epyon is somehow heavier than the heavy arms
@@devildavin to be fair, Wing pretty much showed that their pilots were pretty much immune to Self Destruct Damage. let's be honest, in real life Heero should have never survived self destructing the Wing, and let's not even mention Zechs when the Epyon blew off in the finale
Remember Heero was shot by the arm and leg, but he's fine.
He has 20 broken bones, but he's fine.
He twists back a broken bone in his leg after the terrible fall. The next day he's fine.
He was comatosed for one month. But he's fine.
He face planted from Gundam Zero cockpit after having a taste of the Zero system, but he's fine.
Libra debris fall on his back to protect Relena, but he's fine.
But Heero's plot armor can be due to his genes were altered/enhanced to make him the "Perfect Soldier". In other words, Gundam Capt. America
I thought he had 200-something broken bones?
Ok, If Heero had Gundanium Alloy bones, wouldn't that make him kinda like Wolverine...?
Minus the healing factor, that is.
They really stepped it up with the Human+ program.
@@edgargad2941 gasp!
*OP-I Intensifies*.
@@accelriderx2931 Pretty sure he has that too. XD
Maybe heero's skin is make out of Gundamnium alloy
The big thing about Patrick Colasaur compared to all the others, is that he was likely a parody of that trope and OO just went all the way with it. As for the others, it really is tough to top Wing and Seed for main character plot armor and even more with Kiruto Jesus-kun cause he could of died so much within Seed.
Yeah he is an obvious parody of guys with too much plot armor.
I think the writers for 00 saw the plot armour of the earlier series and other shows and made him as a parody of that.
And it worked as everyone likes Patrick.
While I recognise the collective hate boner so many people have for Kira, I'd argue that if you're thinking that the arguments in the video hold up to scrutiny, then you haven't considered the evidence in terms of the levels of science and technology as of 70CE.
Firstly, with the duel between the Strike and the Aegis, the durability of the pilot suit isn;t being taken into account here. The fact is that Andrew Waltfeld survived far worse (an internal explosion where there was no phase shift to absorb any of the same type of explosion, he wasn't restrained in his pilot seat and restraints at the time of the explosion and it took weeks for him to get medical attention) yet he survived and recovered enough to be a mobile suit pilot within a couple of years. Furthermore, we know from that, that medical science had progressed to the point where not only was genetic engineering possible, but cybernetic prostheses were a reality. That is to say that the core biological trait of all coordinators was an enhanced immune system and more durable body as a direct response to Type-S Influenza. Yet the fact is that Kira was limp and unconscious when Lowe found him, Lowe carried him to Reverend Malchio, who put him in a medical capsule for critical care, at which point he was rushed to Aprilius, the PLANTS capital where the Kline family gave him what would have been the finest medical care that money could buy. Even then he was unconscious for days and possibly weeks, judging by how long it would have taken the Archangel to limp its way to Alaska. Even when he came to, he was bedridden and unable to move for days. Furthermore, as the Re:HOME does appear in SEED, the Astray mangas can reasonably be classed as canon, rather than a retcon.
As for number 2, there is a credible explanation. The fact is that most of the fleets that were affected by Genesis, were built around a presumption that nuclear radiation and the shielding that it would require, were no longer an issue.As such, the shielding around the cockpit and command centre, is highly unlikely to be shielded against gamma radiation. Conversely, the nuclear Gundams would have been built so that the cockpits were shielded against reactor leaks when they were sitting on top of a nuclear reactor. We know from the Rau's comments during the Battle of Panama, that the reason that Strike Daggers were so easily defeated by the Gungnirs, was because their EMP shielding was inferior to even that of the GINNs. It stands to reason that cockpit shielding against radiation would also be a design concern. In fact I'm particularly reminded of the scene in Pacific Rim, where it's noted that the 1st generation Jaegers were rushed into production so quickly that no one had considered the possibility of them being cancer-killer deathtraps. As such, I'd argue that the only 3 craft that could have potentially protected their pilots from getting fried in the Battle of Jachin Due, were the Freedom, the Justice and the Providence.
That leads me to the third instance. The fact is that the cutoff switch killing off the reactor immediately does indeed make perfect sense, due to how the N-Jammer works. The N-Jammer disrupts all nuclear chain reactions instantaneously, while the N-Jammer Canceller acts as a protective shielding device to protect the chain reactions of a nuclear reactor. Once the N-Jammer Canceller is deactivated, that protection stops and the chain reaction should reasonably stop with it. In fact we have a real-world example of an instantaneously stopping chain reaction as I understand it, in the form of pebble bed reactors. Pebble Bed Reactors have no emergency cut-off fail-safe systems, because they don't need them. They rely on a principle known as Dopler broadening, which states that the hotter a nuclear reactor runs at, the more space needed between atoms to allow for a chain reaction to be able to continue. The Dopler broadening that the reactor pebbles are designed around has a nominal operating temperature of 800-1200 degrees Celsius, while the graphite shielding has a melting point of 2000 degrees. However the pebbles themselves have been designed so in the event of a coolant failure, the moment the temperature rises to 1600 degrees Celsius, the spacing between atoms is too small to allow chain reactions to continue, and so the nuclear reactions are stopped dead in their tracks until the reactor cools down a nominal operating temperature. There's no reason to imagine that the N-Jammer Canceller and its effects wouldn't operate in a very similar manner. Incidentally, if you're wondering what the heck I'm talking about with pebble bed reactors, google "let a thousand reactors bloom" to find a 2004 wired article, which does a great job of explaining this real world technology.
As for surviving the explosion, the thing to note is that what would have exploded, was most likely the battery used as an energy buffer, which makes the explosion no worse than what Kira and Athrun both survived when the Aegis self-destructed. However even then there's another thing to note, which is how valuable the pilots of these units would have been considered. We know that the nuclear Gundams were intended for the aces of the ZAFT millitary, meaning that you're talking about the highest trained and most skilled pilots of ZAFT. Given that the pilots at that level would be just as rare and valuable as the nuclear Gundams themselves, and far harder to replace, there's a strong likelihood that the pilot's compartment on them was heavily reinforced to protect the pilot from the suit exploding as much as possible.
As for number 4, as it's established, any Natural wouldn't have survived it, but Kira isn't a Natural, he's a Coordinator and as I already noted, it;s an established fact that Coordinators, as a direct response to Type-S Influenza, were genetically engineered to have superior immune systems and therefore by reasonable extension, had bodies which could take far more of a punishment than naturals, while also being far more easily able to heal.
Arguably when you're talking about plot armour, the question which someone should always ask is “is this plausible in universe” and the answer with these is essentially yes. In fact I'd argue that Heero Yui surviving the Wing self-destruction is way-more of a Lazarus moment than Kira's brushes with death. As such, I'm simply not convinced that when it comes to Kira Yamato, there's enough lazy writing there to constitute plot armour.
@@sabercyclone041 Kira was not a coordinator. He was a perfect-coordinator. But yeah. It was part of the story that Kira was even more superhuman than other coordinators, so it was plausible to me that he would have low-level regeneration.
@@renalexander3653 Your argument comes across as somewhat hyperbolic. A "perfect co-ordinator" simply refers to a coordinator who has successfully gestated in an artificial womb, which eliminates the variables caused by the mother's own womb. Yes Coordinators had more durable bodies better immune systems and they bodies were better at healing than most naturals, however given that it's fail obvious when you look into the CE timeline that Coordinators were created directly in response to the Type-S Influenza pandemic, that's pretty understandable. Also he hardly had low level regeneration, he was just lucky and had the benefit of the best medical care that money could buy.
The CE era had status capsules and cybernetic limbs as standard. Lowe found Kira within minutes of the explosion, where he was incapacitated and immobile, he was immediately placed in a stasis capsule and was flown to the PLANTS and he received the best medical treatment that money could buy. Even then he was unconscious for 10 days and bedridden for an extra 4. The reason the injuries don't look like they took that much if a toll is because the show time jumps in very subtle ways.
I'm glad someone called out the Shiro ball plot armor. It was pretty infuriating to have everyone tell me the series is oh so realistic just to see that scene so early.
To be fair to Shiro, that ball he used is an experimental one.
Right its like fighting a Panzer with a Tow Truck.
@@AssaultRider555 I'm pretty sure the Ball K variant is one of the more combat-ready balls. So ya i would expect that it has more armor on it. Which even then technically the ball is actually at the advantage. It has a smaller profile, it had better sensors, better thrust, acceleration, and was cheap and easy to produce. The next advantage lies in its curved armor. All those 120mm shells from the Zaku fuckin bounced off the round armor and for the most part he probably threw off the enemies aim by throwing that space debris. If anything Shiro was just ridiculously lucky that none of the shots bounced into his equipment (which if you watch kinda did and busted up the ball a bit, none of the important bits tho).
The ball vs Zaku is def not a stretch and could totally not be plot armor and I would say most of his saving grace was just the fact the ball was round. The best plot armor moment for Shiro would have to be the EZ-8 being cut in half by the big ass laser cannon or him fighting Custom Gouf.
@@Yakasuki Mainly that cut in half one. He could reasonably survive the Gouf and indeed, Norris is a man of honor, a pity he worked with the Space Nazis that Zeon is.
I'm surprised to hear that people call that show realistic. It was enjoyable and has the coolest gundam fight ever near the end, but there's absolutely nothing realistic about 90% of what happens on it, not that I remember at least. If I had to call a Gundam show/OVA realistic it would definitely be war in the pocket. That ova was so fucking good.
Regarding Kira’s atmospheric re-entry, he still got pretty feverish from the ordeal and was bed-ridden. Meanwhile, both Yzak and Dearka also fell to Earth and did not seem to suffer any serious injury. I’m inclined to believe that Coordinators in general are more heat-resistant than Naturals.
Bravo!
ikr, he seems to forget that kira is a cordinator
@@mysilentworld6731 shhh dont tell him
I remember Kira also mentioning that the the Strike was theoretically capable of unassisted atmospheric re-enter, according to its manual. Though he didn't get to fully test it because he would otherwise been far too separated from the Archangel, leading the Archangel to adjust it's course to end up with the Strike.
@@Hanetsune You're right. Badgiruel agrees with Kira on the Strike's manual and specifications, but also mentions that it was an untested feature and they weren't sure how hot the cockpit would get (meaning the pilot could potentially get cooked inside even if the Strike itself survived reentry). The Archangel's doctor also mentioned in the episode after that the cockpit got hotter than a natural could handle, so it was a combination of the Strike's capabilities and Kira's resistance to heat as a coordinator. A regular mobile suit of the First Bloody Valentine War, like a GINN, would have blown up on reentry (we do see Athrun survive atmospheric interface in a ZAKU in GSD, so presumably by the time the Second Bloody Valentine War erupts, regular mobile suits are tougher), and a natural pilot in the Strike may have still died to the heat - these are the two factors why Kira could survive that situation.
Thank you for pointing out Heero's plot armor. I'll admit Kira's plot armor is extreme, but its annoying that Heero's plot armor is constantly ignored.
To be fair Heero is funny because its failed suicide attempts.
@@TinyTitian On top of failed suicide attempts there's also the fact that why Heero survives is never explained.
Not ignored, just taken as a given. The universe just will not allow Heero to kill himself until Relena gets to Peacecraft his Yuy. (It's in her contract.)
@@hibubgames7667 because he is Heero that is why
Never had issue with kira surviving, they need him to drive up gunpla sales. People forget Gundam animes are no longer a Mecha anime but expensive commercial of a toy line.
I absolutely question the skill of whoever wrote 08th team. Surviving the zaku point-blank shot was stupid, and could have easily been remedied by having the gun jam or be out of ammo or something. There, a million times more believable and they could've saved money on animation without the bloodborne dodge.
Or if he just shot first, perhaps straight down the barrel.
Totally, and same with his fight in Ep1. Treize did this same thing as that fighting the Leo Mobile Dolls to prove a point to the Romefeller Foundation. He ate almost the entire drum mags from three Leos without a scratch. And while the scene of him using his Leo to waste them was cool because it was one of the few times we see a Leo do something other than explode...he should have been dead already. But the Zaku MG in his face not harming him was retarded. I mean, the concussion of Dell's impact from his Zaku falling over was enough to kill him but Shiro ate that blast wave like it was a stiff breeze. Also, the force of the rocket he launched into Topp's crotch should have harmed him also.
Dude they paid Hiyama Nobuyuki as Shiro's VA, they need to do something awesome with him, even if it was illogical
not only that, but the muzzle blast should have sent him flying.
@@killer13324 the muzzle blast should have turned him into fecken red mist!
"... while 08th MS team is widely considered the most realistic Gundam series..."
0080 War in the Pocket says hello.
I think 08th MS team definitely had a more gritty, realistic art style but I agree that the mobile suit mechanics that get shown on 0080 are also some favorites of mine as well
yeah combat felt real in war in the pocket, there was real tension
@@fordo6360 Way more especially since these were Zeon soldiers we were following as the protagonists.
@@fordo6360 what's real about GM's getting blown up and being useless
@@ebindelgado9660 yeah, the only problem the OVA had was that the GMs were given the grunt syndrome, even when they were established to have good stats to reliably compete against the Doms and Gelgoogs. Especially with the GM Sniper 2 that had a performance that matched the original Gundam
The truth is that....the real Kira died after the Aegis exploded, the person who wakes up on Lacus' room is a clone! a Carbon Human Kira
@Alt Eisen No, the real one is in Hinamizawa.
The real... BIG BOSS
It would be convoluted as hell, but I really wouldn't mind that explantation.
Makes allot more sense to me then even his personality
@Alt Eisen i think i Saw kira clone to in Cross " Xnxx " Ange 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a note on #4 surviving the zaku shot, a 120mm cannon has a measured decibel rating of approximately 190 when fired... 140 causes instant death... so he survived two point blank shockwaves that should have turned his squishy bits into jelly
A rocket launcher has 180 db ... a tank shot has 190 db or so, and many soldiers have experienced 190 db in almost close range. The shockwave is another story.
"PLOT"
*shows Murrue Ramius
truly a man of culture
Queen Murrue is the best woman
Seed and Destiny the ecchi gundam series
I need to watch SEED all over again
Mu did promise to Murrue that they’ll both go home after the war ends, yes it’s late, but a man doesn’t tend to break a promise to a woman
Shiro's Plot armor is the most egregious. When he dodges 2 Zaku shots while on the ground, at least a lot of the other BS in Gundam has newtype magic or OP mobile suits but he's literally just a guy and he dodged 2 giant bullets without a scratch.
You’re godd@** right, about Shiro Amada!
That and some things like the romeo and juliet story at the mid point make me unconvinced of its title of most realistic.
@@lordgzstg6181 I'd personally give that title to War in the Pocket or Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky for most realistic, personally.
@@NexGenRogue I would agree with war in the pocket as it's the only one I have seen. I even have a younger cousin that looks a bit like the kid and acted like him when he discovered gundam.
@@lordgzstg6181 I also really liked how the Gundam wasn't invincible like in many other series, the final fight could have gone either way.
Jesus can't die; he just comes back.
Now he goes MIA.
@@JeanLucCaptain yes he is terminator
@@Fish-kz8xw Bra that was a reference to HALO.
Spoiler
@@Karlos1234ify Fuck off, it's 17 years old.
Most Gundam series: "MC survives"
IBO: We don't do that here
Yeah in that series the villains had plot armor
@@matthewdavidson6744 and artillery. Nothing beat artillery.
@@justnoob8141 considering, it was case of not enough dakka.
At the expense of Mcgillis's intellect. 🤣
Ibo tried to save Mika till the end with side characters throwing their long range weapons trying to go melee with barbatos, teleporting at eins back at the end of season 1 for no reason and miraculously dodging hashmals tail. Every mc has a plot armor
Patrick is more of a mascot than a character
Build Divers made this a Fact. He even has merch in-show!
Patrick is the son of Jessy and James of Pokemon
the MEME MACHINE HIMSELF. I honestly think they were taking a dig at Destiny and Kira with Patrick by having this stupid idiot that survived his own tom cruise BS over and over and is an IN UNIVERSE JOKE.
If only the SD Gundam G Gene games made his Plot Armor a Skill.
Yap he is OK he's more of a parody then plot armor
The fact that Keith survives 0083 without a scratch is pretty incredible. Kou gets messed up several times, Cima, Gato and Burning are all KIA. Even Captain Synapse was executed for mutiny. Keith just gets his amazon woman and that's about it.
Good for Keith.
Amazon woman and a Titan uniform. Not sure that's going to end well for him.
@@knghtbrd I went back and rewatched the clip. Keith isn't seen in a Titans uniform like the rest of the pilots from the Albion. All we see is him piloting a Gelgoog back on Earth.
I think the Graze Ein smashing nearly every Tekkadan and associated Ms with blood flying everywhere in the cockpits just for the pilots to have a few bandages on later on is probably one of the silliest.
I feel that was less plot armor and moreso subverting expectations. It did cripple two of the individuals for months and left one permanently paralyzed.
@ryandugan9176 tbh ibo had a massive amount of plot armour, look at s1 again and tell me gaelio isn't fucking dead
Mika would have beat julieta if he actually fought her but he doesn't because the plot demands it
And Orga acts stupid because the plot demands it (although that could just be bad writing rather than plot armour)
Mcgillis' whole thing in S2 was definitely just bad writing
Also, I'm sorry to say this but Jerid Meesa deserves at least an honorable mention since he was one of the few characters that live almost all the Zeta series were he survive many close calls, getting promoted after each defeat and getting new mobile suit like there were candy. I know he died at the end but man, he should've died like in episode 28
@Alt Eisen plot armor? Nah.. That guy is just pure badass
@@trollinoakenshield9822 Not after Zeta iirc
Really, when you think about it, Patrick has plot armor specifically because he is the universe's punching bag. Even his wife said that his "Immortal Colasaur" nickname wasn't something he should be proud of even though he, and by extension us, are very proud of it anyway.
As for Top 3... bad writing and behind-the-scenes drama. Plain and simple. A show's flaws can only go so far before it becomes obvious that something went wrong and the show is suffering for it. I can't hate Kira Yamato because it's obvious that he was at the mercy of some terrible writers and was written in ways he was never supposed to. Basically a Troll Fic, but unironic.
She did use it to her advantage at times.
@@barrybend7189 like making him the pilot of the ship they flew in, knowing his big luck would protect them
So basically, Patrick is still alive because he is Gundam 00's Waspinator......
@@operationstratos1013 without the constant dismemberment, yes
@@granmastersword unless you count his mobile suits?
Let's not forget that Shiro and Aina should've at least had severe burns from the beam sniper rifle,if not just vaporized. Also when they both took out the Apsalus.
shiro should have died the moment the zaku fired the machine gun when he was on foot shooting a rocket launcer
@@baldy117irl he should died in the first episode when the his ball took multiple hit from a Zaku machine gun.
@@baldy117irl Despite that, Shiro has steel balls to dodge 2 car size bullets
Look at the good side both of them lose 2 limbs at the end
Those Zaku MGs apparently fire different loads than standard MBTs, along with the Federation's own YHI YF MG-100mm. Notice how eve in the 08th MS Team opening, they're firing surprisingly close to soldiers outside of the cockpit. In fact...everything aside from Mu's BS, I feel like Kakarot's been lacking a lot of research here. It even states that the RB-79 K-type ball was made to fight specifically alongside Federation MS due to the lack of fielded MS at the time. Could it have taken 'THAT' many 120mm rounds? Eh, probably not, but it is indeed stated that the Balls were up-armored extensively to even stand a chance.
I liked how everytime you mentioned plot in the Seed stuff, Murrue pops up lol. I knew that Kira would be the number one use of plot armor, including his infamous survive from a nuke. And then Mu got retconned into Destiny despite how great his death was in seed. Anyway, great job!
it's a show of appreciation for the visuals' liberal utilization of P H Y S I C S
I'm almost certain that's the ONLY reason why she managed to survive as long as she did, because as far as doing her job goes she was definitely no Bright.
I'm also convinced the writers of Seed were absurdly horny.
@@shinigamimiroku3723 Yeah considering the fact that I came across a GIF file that has a lot of boobs bouncing all of them were from seed I would not be surprised at the majority of the guys who did seed were horny lol.
@@shinigamimiroku3723 The writer of SEED is a woman.
@@therussianwanderer4851 Women can be horny too, y'know. Bold of you to assume I was automatically talking about a man...
I think the thing that makes Heero's EW feat different though is that the INTERNAL frame of Wing Zero is DESIGNED to withstand all of its armor and such stripped, still able to fight to the end even then. That's the incredible technology of Wing Zero
The Church of Jesus Yamato labeled this video as blasphemy
I follow the way of Patrick Colesar!
@@Squiggles01 Jesus
we need more 2887
Also bonus when the plot armor rubbed on Athrun and survived the gouf explosion.
Oh Boy those guys need a wheelchair with how mentally ill they are
In Mwu's case, my leading theory is that he died in SEED. Neo Roanoke's a clone of him(because you know that both sides, at this time, have ceased giving a shit about ethics, and it ain't the first time a Da Flaga clone has been produced...right, Mr. le Creuset?) who ended up inheriting some of the original Mwu's memories, and, when push came to shove, decided he liked the idea of being Mwu a lot better then being Neo.
You could say one thing, Carbon Humans. It was mentioned in one of the side mangas in Gundam Seed Astray or something else.
Yeah I’ll take this theory over some space miracles bullshit Gundam seed uses any day. 👍🏻
@@ninjavanish2361 ain't Carbon Humans are just humans with memory of the deceased best pilots? Copying the memories is probably much cheaper and faster than cloning and having none of the clone's fatal flaw.
@@Joshua_N-A but it’s possible to regain their personalities before the whole experimentation went underway and keep certain memories, so they can remember next time they fought something that’s familiar to them such as Stella.
@@ninjavanish2361 like an on/off switch. Sounds much safer than block words method. It also could lessens training time and keeping mental stability. The memory would be just the pilot's combat memory, how the pilot fought previously.
I guess they ended 08th MS Team early when Shiro realized his plot armor was wearing off. You can tell because he was missing a leg at series end. Smart to get out while you're ahead!
Everyone: How are you not dead?! And got your girl of your dreams?!
Patrick: Plot Armor, son
To me the thing with Heero is that show goes out of it's way to show you that he's not...normal. There was that scene where he busts Duo out of cell by literally bending the bars open so Duo could escape. I honestly feel that somewhere there's a limited issue Wing comic that gives us some crazy backstory for him.
Also, in EW he doesn't casually get out of the cockpit, he literally tumbles out of it in an almost half dead fashion.
Also, for all the hate I share with everyone here for Kiira, he WAS fighting with his hands tied against Shinn. Not only was he defending the Archangel, he was also fighting without the intent to kill, while Shinn was hellbent on killing him.
Heero pulled a Kenshiro. Amazing, I must have forgotten that years ago.
@@blumiu2426 Heero: "I'll kill you."
Kenshiro: "You are already dead."
Relena: "Nani?"
And people got mad that Gaelio survived, even though his "death" was the most survivable
@Alt Eisen Because Char is cooler than Jesus Yamato so we let it slide
@Alt Eisen it's....
Explained in the Zeta Gundam video game for some reason ??...
im having a hard time beleiving that Mcgillis, some one who is very through with killing didn't make sure that Gaelio was dead
Agreed, coz since gaylord is his best friend it make sense that he wouldn't dare to check his body in the cockpit especially after betraying him
and Don't forget that Blond Bitch
Well, to be fair, before Duo rescued Heero, the people that were analyzing him said that there was something weird about him, and after that Heero just opened SOME FREAKING STEEL CELL BARS with his bare hands
I could've sworn it's revealed or implied that Heero is some kind of super soldier...
@@ReeceHoward06 And Kira is revealed to be the super human of the super human race. So if Heero can survive all those, then Kira can too!
@@chassegallerie2910 I never said otherwise. I will say, however, that it was demonstrated to be physically enhanced on Heero's part. He's shown to outright have super human strength and durability, along with a boosted recovery rate from injury. Im not sure if that's the case for Kira...but again, I never made an argument against him.
@@ReeceHoward06 still though he fell on his neck
Yeh, at least heero is implied to be an enhaced human somehow with all that bullshit from the manga and frozen teardrop on how heero's father is a clone of the original heero yui and heero itself had a clone that was further augmented or something like that, shit was so convoluted i quickly lost the thread but he being an augmented human won't be worse than quatre being a newtype
Instead of a character, I think some mobile suits/ mobile armors actually lose plot armor sometimes, the best example I can think of is one Destroy Gundam taking out entire cities and ZAFT units, and then five of them get taken out relatively easy by just 2 mobile suits, (although the Destiny and Legend Gundam are still very powerful machines)
The Destroy got treated like one of those early game RPG bosses that later on shows up again as a minor annoyance.
My only logical explanation was that the 5 units were "massproduced" (or rather limited-production) units with lower specs than the original prototype piloted by Stellar. But well, I guess that was too complicated.
@@kakarot197 Ugh, I hate when that happens...it'd only make sense if it was a prototype midboss, not for a MAJOR obstacle in the series! All they did was make it like the SRW game and made it less threatening.
@@Aptarus that could be possible, I would think it would take a lot of energy to make those things and with the war turning against the earth alliance they may have cut corners.
That's not plot armor, the 1st destroy seems powerful because zaft troop don't have mean to counter it, they still use older and non melee machine. If freedom and impulse could beat it then no way destiny and legend which is much more superior ms could lose, also shin know destroy weakness
A lot made of Heero's personal plot armour, but I'd argue that Wufei's ability to extend his plot armour to regular mobile suits he piloted is more impressive.
Mu La Flaga's survival is perfectly reasonable. He was hit by an anti fortress weapon, but Mu is not a fortress so it did not affect him.
Ah the Inmortal Patrick Colasour. *the destruction of his suit and him surviving with very little injury is played off for laughs and is a running gag in the series. Whenever he's on screen it's pretty much guaranteed that he's going to be shot down
Inmortal...
The whole planet earth, when Amuro pushed the Axis away with a mobile suit
And they didn't learn shit
Thus uc just got worse after with all the war and whatnot
Well, he had the help of a bunch of Londo Bell and Neo Zeon mobile suits, as well as the Psycho Frame
@@jrickducking6685 G-Saviour was basically UC went broke that they're using shitty old technologies except the main suits
At least Amuro fucking dies after that feat unlike Banagher at the end of Unicorn
Also the Dublin drop, when we learned that having an entire colony fall deals little damage outside the city, but having a partially destroyed colony crash wipes out half of the planet's population.
Your right, murrue’s plot are so big, mu just have to go back for them.
well can you blame him.
@@silentecho92able never
XD Well her guns would violate the Geneva Convention! They aren't sweater puppies, they're full grown dogs!
Heero: "Your shelter is secured is it?"
Little girl:" Of course it is! See for your self just how powerless you are."
Heero: "Roger that."
Little girl: *gasp*
*Wing Zero is blown to bits and falls to the ground from super high up* (Heero has plot armor)
Don't forget that it's literally falling apart around him due to damage from fighting Altron _AND_ reentry while also being targeted by anti-air fire...into already compromised armor.
Heero's plot armor was ridiculous.
@@NeroLordofChaos It's armor it's made to perfectly tolerate reentry's heat, dumb@ss.
I'm not a huge Gundam fan, but every time I watch any of it it seems to me like all the mech armor in the shows adjusts its effectiveness according to what the plot demands. Sometimes things blow up from any hit, sometimes things take absurd amounts of punishment. Also mechs simply cannot be hit by weapons mounted on spaceships or tanks for some reason.
While it's not perfect, the original Gundam is actually pretty good in this regard. For the most part, Zakus can do nothing to Amuro unless they go into melee combat, as Char did. But, as Zeon upgrades their arsenal, the Gundam becomes more vulnerable. It was a pretty cool way to show Amuro's progression from relying on his technology to relying on his skill and intuition
As a Stormtrooper, all I can say is Amen Brother.....
when you turn off the nuclear reactor, but still get a nuclear explosion
Did you know that explosion was from archangel for illusion but it did damage two gundams...
@Alt Eisen Yes thanks.
Gundam nuclear reactors are made out of the same stuff as Halo slipspace engines, in that they explode if you look at them funny. And then F91 weaponizes that concept.
Only you wouldn't have gotten a nuclear explosion. The instant the N-Jammer Canceller got shut down, the reactor in the Freedom would have become just as much of a glorified paperweight as every other nuclear reactor on the Earth from the time that N-Jammers were injected into the planet.
The explosion wasn't from the reactor. Fission reactors aren't bombs. It was from the Minerva's positron cannon. Reference previous episodes where Minerva uses its positron cannon while fighting on Earth, each time resulting in spectacular explosions.
Sunrise:
"Hey we need to release strike freedom but how do we destroy freedom?"
"I dunno, just go nuclear blast both characters and back like nothing happened "
When the mech is too op for your own universe to give a proper destruction🤣🤣
@@jhorelhanniford9582 pretty much, can’t pump those number up with just a single gundam like the original and Turn A
Considering Strike Freedom on the paper is just a slightly taller Freedom with golden limbs. I'm not sure why they couldn't just send Freedom to the factory and excuse the new suit as an upgraded unit. IBO did it with the Barbatos, and so it got a bucket load of variants for real-life model kits. Lacus sure must have some of those upgrades lying around her house.
Even without the IBO example, Fukuda had no excuse to not thinking of this simple solution. He directed Cyber Formula, the show based on Formula One. He did have his characters getting upgrades just because the factory come up with new cars instead of forcing them to crash into a coma every single time.
Morosawa in a nutshell.
You forgot that battle scene was full of n-jammers. Only minor explosions occurred if n-jammer was turned off
I dunno about plot armor to Heero, but when I saw him split 2 steel bars with electricity with his bare hands twice (1 deactivating a self destruct device, 2nd when rescuing Duo)
I was convinced that he is a Super Soldier, a genetically enhanced human, a mutant or anything
8:23 Heero took an injury that place Athrun in medical care for a month; yet his inhuman body recovers in less than three days.
Honorable mention to Leina inexplicably not dying on Gundam ZZ. That one totally looked like a poor rewrite on Tomino's part after he regretted killing her and it sucked because its one of the few deaths he's properly handled well. It completely broke ZZ for me and the show never quite recovered after that.
Yeah but then you can feel bad about all the OTHER sisters that die. So it balances out.
@@DIEGhostfishok.
Also wait, isn't she not revealed alive till the finale?
Kira didn't have plot armor
His armor was the plot
The tale of Yamato the Great and his merry harem
Blades sword crest thumbnail. 🗡😎👍
@@jamcalx thank you
He has a harem?
Unless you don't count the dead one
@@RexWort well no but it was just a joke
Not an accurate joke but yeah
Sword Of Symphogear
Sorry
It been awhile since I saw that show
I only remember the main protagonists get two girls
Either they break up with one or one dieing
Before video: Number 1s gonna be a toss up between the Wing group and Kira isn't it?
After video: Well... I was partially right.
Oi crikey! The Bob Semple is the best tank ever!
Thing is a beast, also has the same advantage the ball had...the shock factor of the enemy wondering WTF is barreling toward them guns blazing.
To Wing's credit, they do try to hint that aside from undergoing rigorous training, Heero's body was augmented in space. Yes it doesnt explain much, but they tried, lol. "Perfect Soldier," indeed.
Even Patrick has some level of plot armor in video games. In SD Gundam G Generation Crossrays, Patrick has the skill "Immortal Colasour". The skill description says:
"When HP reaches 0, unit (piloted by Patrick) revives with 1 HP once per stage."
5: Running Gag.
4: I got nothing.
3: Hack Writing.
2: Harsh training / being a human robot. Mainly, Heero gets a pass.
1: Hack Writing. Hack Writing. Hack Writing. Hack Writing. And, Hack Writing.
this indeed
well yeah
I would mention Iok Kujan from IBO. He did die in the end, but he had too many calls through the series that it surprised me when he did finally die.
The question is does plot armor is still valid when the character finally dies?
What About Julieta then?
@@Footy86productions Julieta had the most plot armor of anyone in that show
@@RickyFSeiei It certainly is valid. The Plot Armor protects you long enough to deliver you to your rightful place in the plot, in this case Idiok Kuntjan's well deserved death in the hands of Space Guts.
@@matthewdavidson6744 Julieta and Rustall have god damned level plot armor
* Wing Gundam blows up *
Heero: "Mission compleeeeeeeeeeeete"
I laughed abit too hard at this
Hes metal!!!
For any nonhistorians out there At 3:33 when he said “it’s like taking on a panzer 4 or a chi ha against a bob semple” he was referring to the ball being the the panzer 4 or chi ha and the bob semple being the zaku
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Oh okay that makes more sense.
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Yeah I don't get it either.
I think this comment needs something added to make the sarcasm more obvious. I mean, it's obviously sarcasm because the explanation is so wrong it's backwards...
Have to give Patrick props too for going back out there time after time after time of getting blown away. Even someone who thinks they're lucky has to have that thought that this could be the one they don't come back from.
We already know that the comments will be a minefield. Oh lord what have you done. And you say that a bob semple tank can't kill a tank? It could take on the yamato singlehandedly, both the ship and our Lord and savior
Time to suit up
If we put Kira in the Bob Semple tank, it can take over the world.
@@kakarot197 Nah, Kira still got F-ed up in Strike Rouge during Destiny. Now, if you put *Heero* in the Bob Semple tank, *then* it can take over the world 😎.
there is a reason why Japan never invaded Australia
@Random Name Seventy One well, that and the Bob Smeple tank
Super/Perfect Coordinator Kira, and Heero who canonically has some kind of superhuman enhancements, which are never addressed as far as I'm aware (where/when/how?)
"A plasma sword through a nuclear generator is probably not the best idea."
Well, of course it wasn't. It was Shinn's idea, after all.
It wasn’t a plasma sword, the sword was solid but had a laser edge
@@jakealter5504 I know. I was just quoting the video. It was more a beam edge as far as Gundam tech goes.
@@snukastyle true
@@jakealter5504 hold up right there...if its the solid edge that pierce thru Freedom...how the hell didnt the Feedom PS armour block that strike...
@@PorktatoesSSRB I just checked, apparently the laser blade on the sword is able to extend to the tip of the blade to pierce ps armor. That plus shinn adjusting to take advantage of kira’s fighting style and the impulses ability to replace damaged parts in addition to its combat packs in mid battle made the impulse the perfect counter to the freedom
I'm pretty sure if you wrote Patrick Colosaur's name in a Death Note he would just get a case of heartburn.
It just proves that most of Seed Destiny was just bad fanficiton. Years later, Kira and Shinn's battle is still controversial. I never considered Shinn surviving the end of Seed part of his plot armor. Attributed the damage to be from his battle with Providence. Plus, he flew straight up before Genesis fired. So he could have made it out of the blast radius.
Don't forget that Heero Yuy is also ridiculously strong. As in, he bent the bars of a jail with just his bare hands.
That was duo
Mu La Flags survived cuz he used ZA WARUDO!!! to escape from his MS before explode
Seiyuu connection bruh XD
At least they fleshed out Heero's back story to include a number of medical experiments to give him enhanced combat abilities and survivability. You know the plot armor is intense when they rewrite your origin.
Shiro awaken ultra instinct before goku when he doge two gian bullet points blank
Lol
How about the inverse of this video? “5 characters that got unambiguously screwed over by the writing”
Coming from a Wing lover, you could give almost every significant pilot in the show a mention! (Spoilers?)
Heero: This video's info plus the time he fell out of Wing Zero onto his face on a metal deck.
Duo: Takes a beam Gatling barrage in a Leo and doesn't explode (Trowa could have intentionally missed critical areas) but then there's the time he tried to self destruct and it just... Didn't happen.
Trowa: In the Vayeate when it exploded.
Quartre: Shot down in a fighter jet and crashes (totally fine)
Wufei: Self stabs Shenlong to use the explosion to escape. This could get a pass.
Zechs: Epyon's Destruction
Noin: Takes a full Leo Cannon blast and it does negligible damage (even though that weapon just took out a more armored Leo in the same scene)
Lady Une: Flies Wing into the Libra's main cannon.
And Treize: Was in a Leo getting shot up by two mobile doll Leos on full auto. No damage. But, well, he lost that armor later, so I guess it evens out. Although, considering his plan, I guess it's more like he just decided to turn it off.
Believe it or not the epyon survived the blast
@@santiagogarcia1606 I appreciate the factoid. I had a feeling it survived, since that is the easiest way to explain Zechs' survival. It's still plot armor (imo) as it means the Epyon survived the Libra's power source exploding at point blank, and the hole in its chest from the battle (which was near the cockpit) was also facing that blast.
@@Agonysis oof
Include the mobile suits as plot armor in Gundam Wing. They mentioned no more mobile suits at the end of Endless Waltz. Then Frozen Teardrop happened, and now mobile suits returns. And from what I heard, Epyon made its return on Frozen Teardrop, with a replacement arm.
@@bagsikdangal bullshit!
I have one that most seem to overlook. Athrun and Meyrin when Shin shish kabobed the GOUF. Shin's blade hit into, if not near, the cockpit and machine exploded in a body of water afterwords. If the explosion didn't killed them, drowning would. I would also add water pressure, but I'll be kind and say it was shallow. I imagine Waltfeld must felt cheated considering he lost some body parts and lover from and exploded MS, while Athrun and Meyrin got out with simply recoverable injuries.
3:34 **Laughs in Ork while driving a battlewagon**
Really no mention of Commisar Yarik surviving being run over by a Baneblade.
@@barrybend7189 we can't forget about losing an arm , killing the filthy greenskin that did it with the one he had left and took the orks cybork arm as replacement.
This might very well be the only commisar of the imperium who could earn respect from Catachan Jungle Warriors wouldn't even slit his throat shaving like most other commisars
Patrick is The King of plot armor. Also all these plot armor doods are some of my fav characters and stories period.... hmmmm
Besides, most of his Mobile Suits (in the anime) had the cockpit located in the waist - for lack of a better word - module. Watch Gundam 00 Season 1 Episode 24, for more information.
And the king of cameos too thanks to Build Divers and Re:Rise
"Wouldn't it be a shame if Gundam Seed Destiny came along"
Yeah, that's my feeling on Destiny as a whole as well.
I concur. I actually couldn't even finish watching Destiny because I got sick of Kira and Lacus (who I actually kinda liked in Seed).
I love how at 0:22 he uses Kirito-kun to explain plot Armour
Ali al-Saachez definitely deserves an honourable mention in S1 of 00. Lets all remember that Ali ate the beam cannon blast from the GN arms type D, the Blast caught the lower half of the throne Zwei, and destabilized the GN drive. That looked like and should have been death. But ho, in season two Ali is just back with the excuse that he was severely burned but that was the worst of it. I want to point now to Louise who was simply caught in the radiation effect of Tau drive particles, the particles poisoned her, giving her crippling headaches, nausea, shaking, and preventing her wounds from healing or taking to transplant surgery for years. But Ali, a guy who sad on a drive that exploded, was able to recover. I am calling big bull. Also as an Aside Ali is also one of my two favorite characters from 00 but doesnt change this is nonsense.
Wow I hadn't even thought of the particle exposure issue. That's... a heck of a plot hole right there.
Heero's DNA was apparently altered sometime prior to episode ZERO or during training to be the Wing Gundam's pilot is what I read somewhere @Kakarot197.
I read there was some cloning involved as well and also ambiguity on who was heero's father, the original heero yui or a clone of heero yui... But all dat stuff was way convoluted and some of it being part of frozen teardrop AKA "nanomachines, son" gundam idk anymore...
@@edvonrattlehead2135 If I'm remembering correctly, Heero's father was the OZ Operative that had assassinated the original Heero Yuy.
Odin Lowe was then in turn assassinated, leaving his son Odin Lowe Jr. to be picked up by Doctor J and given the code-name Heero Yuy
@@edvonrattlehead2135 i never heard of the cloning bit before just that he got a treatment that turned his bones into metal, like spartan II's from halo.
@@nathanielarthurhardy419 yeh, some of the pages from gundam wing: frozen teardrop that told events prior to peration meteor not only made multiple implications on the identity of odin lowe and how he wasmore than just human and things among those lines but also how odin lowe jr./heero was remarkably similar to the original heero yui when he was young, i honestly didn't follow frozen teardrop closely nor beyond the designs of the gundams mainly for the amount of bullshit on how the writing went full kojima with such a boner for nanomachines, heero awakening from a hybernation/cryogenesis pod with the mission to kill relena and many more stuff like duo getting a quite short end off the stick and some serious turbo bullshit regarding trowa and quatre
@@ORLY911 well the whole cloning bit was quite ambiguous and there were lots of things that were implied, but the few that were specifically stated is that doctor j was training 2 kids, one was an augmented clone of the other, one of the things doctor j did was giving both kids a leo that they had to modify and improve, i think it was left ambiguous if the heero we know was the clone...
I was expecting you to talk about how Heero was able to take hits from the Virgo mobile doll cannons IN A LEO several times without immediately exploding. A dozen direct hits later... the arm malfunctions, THAT’S IT.
The canons might not have been fired at full power
The new kid from Metaverse is giving Kira a run for his money, but with a plot naginata.
I love when Shinn beats Freedom by simply doing is fucking homework on how Kira fights and the goes after him in full bad motherfucker mode.
The only thing I hated about Gundam Seed Destiny, is Kira Yammato. That childish boy and his archangel crew made the series less fun.
12:45 That is not correct. The source of that explosion is not the Freedom. The source is the Minerva’s Tanhauser beam. This can even be seen clearly in the ending still shot. The Freedom can be seen in the water, with the Impulse floating above. Then, the actual explosion is seen way in the background as a rising mushroom cloud.
Watch wackymodder84's video
Yeah, mind telling how a cannon that can be pretty much blocked by Strike Gundam is capable of making an explosion that big?
And Patrick Colasour's plot armor even crossed over into Build Divers!
I mean there was also setsuna, I still don't understand how he survived. sure he got stab near his cockpit but the explosion should of at least done more damage and also maybe rip his pilot suit, which would also kill him cause space is a vacuum.
After rewatching Gundam Wing recently, I firmly believe that everyone's favorite schizophrenic waifu Lady Une deserves at least an honorable mention. I'm pretty sure we all know which scene I'm referring to...
Don't forget Athrun and Meyrin surviving their Gouf being impaled by the Destiny Gundam then exploding yet somehow they were only injured and rescued.
Thank you for pointing out that Hiro's plot armor is on some bullshit. People always look over it because it's popular to hate on Seed.
At least with Seed we get relatively well armored Gundam. What we just saw was on par with Leo surviving more than one second against a Serpent.
I think wing series gundam have much more durable armor, it can withstand bullet and even beam weapon, while Seed gundam is screwed without ps armor
Heero self destruct is more point blank in the explosion than kira with aegis, plus atleast there are some explanations why kira survived whether it be genetics or cancelling njammer canceller.. not denying plot armor but I believe heero should be number 1
Which is kinda weird tbh as Gundam Seed brought the new found love to Gundam franchise back then, as well as broaden its market with its female audiences/fans. Even more so with there is no denying it has some of the best gundam design line up in one series.
@@christianhernandez517 Heero is more akin to captain america. He is a super soldier, he receive tough training and gene manipulation. He also later got frozen and wake up in the future just like captain america
Missing is the one that infuriated me the most in Gundam Wing. That was when the Mercurius piloted by Heero took a direct hit from Wing Zero's combined Twin Beam Cannons without a scratch, which is complete bullshit. Yes, he had the Planet Defensor shield deployed, but remember a single shot from those cannons destroyed an entire colony a minute before.
Plus the discs were clearly obliterated the second the beam touches them, so the Mercurius depended on its (plot) armor to take the blunt of the blast. Then, making matters worse, Trowa survives blocking a shot with the Vayate without the protection of an energy field. If you want to appreciate this miracles, here´s a link:
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Wing zero has like 3 or 4 power settings for the TBR so i always assumed it used the lowest or one of the lowest
@@edvonrattlehead2135 that and the shield of the mercurius took some of the hit
@@jakealter5504 yeh, altho people oftenly forget the TBR has settings other than overkill
@@edvonrattlehead2135 still, it’s low settings are still pretty much overkill against mobile suits not made of gundanium
@@jakealter5504 i think the lowest setting is supposed to be for sniping at like 200km away or some bullshit like that
The very first episode of any Gundam series that I saw was that Gundam Wing episode that Heero self detonated.
Been hooked ever since.
....They didn't call him Kira "Jesus" Yamato for nothin'.
Loki: I have an army
Kira: I have plot armor
Mu: I have an Akatsuki