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A friend and I went to our local Rolex authorized dealer the first week of June and he put his name on the list for a Submariner. Exactly 3 weeks later they called and he got a black dial with date Sub. We were shocked to say the least.
I have been in two separate ADs over the last three weeks, and both offered me watches. Now, they weren’t anything I wanted - a 36mm two-tone DJ and a 28mm yellow gold DJ. That aside, my wife and I both got the call in the last 10 months. All I wanted was an Air-King and I got it. My wife got the two-tone DJ with MOP dial and Diamond bezel/markers she waited months for - just under $20k MSRP. No prior spend in either AD. Things are loosening up.
In fact thinking about it and reading the comments… sounds like stock isn’t going straight out the back door to grey market from bent AD’s right now because dealers know the margins are dead on anything but the rare stuff so they ain’t hoovering it all up. Hence people suddenly getting the calls.
@@blake9181 no I do not have purchase history. I came in the AD introduced myself and expressed interest with GMT and sub SA said GMT she can get within the year for me but if I wanted something quicker sub is for sure. So I opted for that. Grey market has dropped significantly, its almost the same to get the watch at AD vs grey + tax. That might be a good option.
I asked for a Sprite on Jubilee the 1st week of June....2 weeks later I got the call to pick it up. AD said they were "surprised" it came in that fast after they ordered it. Funny enough I also ordered a Tudor Pepsi (new ivory dial) and that took 4 weeks to come in!!!
I got the call for my DJ a month ago. 36mm, fluted bezel, mint dial, jubilee bracelet. Noted interest for 6 months, only previous purchase was a Black Bay Pro.
That’s the perception but I’m thinking that the reality is somewhat different. Potential buyers are getting the call as others have declined to take up the offer of the watch due to financial pressures. It could also be down to some increase in supply. Either ways it’s a load of hype by Rolex and their cronies.
Its because ADs were selling to the grey market over msrp (yes ADs charge grey market dealers more than msrp which is why grey market/flipppers are ADs preferred customers). Now that economic conditions have changed, grey market no longer wants to take on the risk of buying over msrp, So now ADs are selling that stock to retail customers at msrp.
There are just too many affordable, quality options out there now to be paying all that money for a name. Those other options also don't spend all day sniffing their own farts with their "waiting lists" either.
That’s not how luxury products work, though. That’s not limited to watches - take bags, cars, luggage, etc. Very few people in those markets care about “affordable, quality options.” And, preemptively, the people that spend the most time with those products aren’t waiting (or at least as long) on “lists.”
The Swatch looks very cool. I am supporting Swatch as I have a few pieces Swatch watches in my collection. They are fun and enjoyable to wear when I am after work or during weekends. They are amazing beautiful and comfortable watches to wear.
the daytona isnt interesting at 30,000 or 20,000... the chronomaster sport is VERY interesting at 12,000 though. (imo) maybe im just a sucker for the different colored subdials... hehe
You can get a slider example of the Zenith for $8K now. I have one and it smokes my Rolex 126900 in fit and finish. Never held a Daytona but I’d never pay over retail for one so 🤷♂️ Chronomaster Sport all day, every day imo
Who's "everybody" and why am I not included? No but seriously I just recently got a call for my 124060 Sub but that was AFTER 2 years+ of waiting with a DJ36 and an Explorer on the purchase history. Now waiting for the 126710BLRO and eventually the white dial Daytona (for retail).
Christian has excellent taste in watches. My OP 36 green dial is my favorite watch in my collection. It was more difficult to get from my AD than my 126610LV. Cheers!
Until subs are collecting dust on shelves, every walk-in is offered a datejust, two-tones don’t sell and PMs go for 20% off - we’re nowhere near back to normal.
Funny , I got the call for a Submariner about month ago after waiting 2 years, the dealer asked, 'do you still want it?" nice to see they have a since humor. good to see that down turn in the Chinese economy finally helped me get a new Subbie
Idk. although my local A.D. told me that it did get easier on two-tone or precious metal models. I still cannot get oyster perpetual 41 or AirKing. I texted the other AD and asked her is it even worth for me to keep on texting her periodically. I don’t think she liked it because she never replied to me.
Rolex thing is definitely true my girlfriends dad literally just walked in to local ad the other day and walked out with the new titanium yacht master same day lol.
Curious why a Rolex made by CNC Equipment is so expensive. The Chinese can make almost perfect copies for $500 only shows how much markup is there. Remember you don't clone a watch, unless it has an inflated retail price. In the 1970's a rolex was only $400 Strange that manufacturing produces watches much faster now, but Swiss prices have only skyrocketed. Very good marketing must be responsible for these prices.
rolex in stock make sense, my local AD display case is now fully stocked and the 2nd hand shops near by also always have some rolex in stock, still no steel daytona though
I just lived exactly what they were talking about in this video. Walked into the AD locally last week and sorta-joking asked, “what Rolex could I buy today?”….. and he whipped out a new DateJust with an RRP of $13500. Wife and I were split on it; walked out and thought about it……Decided to go back an hour later after some shopping. Sold to the guy who looked at it right after us. Kinda glad as I really want a GMT or Explorer II instead (which I know will not come for years, if ever… but I did decide to put my name on the list after that. Who knows if things are changing?
I went to an AD in toronto, 3 people bought rolexes on the spot! I was like wow they have rolexes in stock here?? there was never anything there for the past 4 years!
I work in a watch ad for cheaper brands (longines and such) and I swear I see more Rolex then omegas these days. The standard line stuff really don’t feel that rare and they’re always for sale on marketplace and chrono in Australia. It’s all a fugazi
@@Tomarco70 But apparently they all want a watch that has the Omega name on it or it wouldn’t sell like it has. It’s a name brand mash-up they can afford. It’s the “I can have it now” idea.
Love your videos, guys. Have y’all ever done a video about the JLC sector dial Master control. It seems like a “illusive” watch to me. I can’t find any online. It’s such a classy watch and would love to know more before I dropped the 7-8k.
One thing you guys missed on that Cartier - the Taureg headscarf is the symbol of the Dakar Rally. I think that watch is awesome...but only for Gaston Rahier and his family. On top of that, he won that second year on a bike he had wrecked just before the race, and the repair was so bad (though the best that could be done) that the bike left two tire tracks instead of one when going straight.
@@silvoslaf While I'm not going to say Bedouins and Berbers are the same, I will say that to the western world they likely appear the same, so the connection makes sense.
Rolex did a great job with their marketing and making their products limited. But to be honest, I would take an Omega and a Grand Seiko any day. Personally think they are just higher quality and are a better products. But Rolex having their watches more exclusive is what most people want. 🤙🏻
The Cheich mirrors the old logo for the Paris-Dakar, so it’s intentionally very literal. The whole point is that it’s a trophy related to winning the race. I do wish the pictures would show off the three gold alloys that are used; in most of them it all just looks yellow, underselling the artistry of the sculpture.
Nah, moonswatch is the coolest one for vacations, I cant get it off my wrist, this summer. M y wife as well (pink). I am gonna get blue and green as soon as I can find them
where is "Everybody"getting calls? it aint NYC thats for shit sure. listed at 5 AD's , zilch. It's why i have a Speedy, Hamilton, Breitling and another Speedy 3861 or the new 600M blue am looking at getting. Like to hear the cities you think call are being made in. Guys are usually spot on, not on this one
Last Christmass my parents gifted me the mission to Pluto, and is actually the most dressy and fun of the selection, although a part of me wishes a mission on Earth one
The Swatch executives successfully created hype for the $250 plastic MoonSwatch made by robots. However, when they said they were going to take orders on their website then reneged, I lost interest in the brand. Plus I was not going to drive 2+ hours each way to get to the nearest Swatch Boutique. The good news is I am still a loyal Omega customer, but have no desire to buy from Swatch.
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Love you guys. I impulse bought the CW 12 because you guys. I got the call for a Deepsea JC last month. Only waited for about 6 weeks
The Cartier looks like Anna Nicole Smith after poppers.
I ordered a Rolex Explorer 40mm 6 weeks ago got the call 2 days ago It’s now sitting pretty on my wrist 😁things are defiantly changing 100%
A friend and I went to our local Rolex authorized dealer the first week of June and he put his name on the list for a Submariner. Exactly 3 weeks later they called and he got a black dial with date Sub. We were shocked to say the least.
Black dial date sub is what I was offered recently (a place on a list, no watch yet). Lists for green and no-date closed and ‚no chance’.
Black dial sub has always been easy
@@jigram7563 7-8 years ago yeah but not in the past few years.
did your friend have any prior purchase with the AD?
@cuanboyz9956 No he did not. I had purchased my datejust there in 2019.
I have been in two separate ADs over the last three weeks, and both offered me watches. Now, they weren’t anything I wanted - a 36mm two-tone DJ and a 28mm yellow gold DJ. That aside, my wife and I both got the call in the last 10 months. All I wanted was an Air-King and I got it. My wife got the two-tone DJ with MOP dial and Diamond bezel/markers she waited months for - just under $20k MSRP. No prior spend in either AD. Things are loosening up.
“Everyone is getting the call from Rolex????”
Not me! Still waiting!
Go back and refresh them
Call them and tell them you're still interested. Or go to the AD and check if they have your watch ready. ADs sometimes need to be reminded.
In fact thinking about it and reading the comments… sounds like stock isn’t going straight out the back door to grey market from bent AD’s right now because dealers know the margins are dead on anything but the rare stuff so they ain’t hoovering it all up. Hence people suddenly getting the calls.
It’s getting better for sure. I expressed interest June 15, got the call July 5th for a sub date!
Did u have purchase history?
Curious about if you have purchase history as well
@@blake9181 no I do not have purchase history. I came in the AD introduced myself and expressed interest with GMT and sub SA said GMT she can get within the year for me but if I wanted something quicker sub is for sure. So I opted for that.
Grey market has dropped significantly, its almost the same to get the watch at AD vs grey + tax. That might be a good option.
Glad to know I won't have to dust off my knee pads. 😂
I heard now you can report ADs to Rolex directly if they make you buy anything before you buy a watch.
I'm still waiting for the call from the AD.
I asked for a Sprite on Jubilee the 1st week of June....2 weeks later I got the call to pick it up. AD said they were "surprised" it came in that fast after they ordered it. Funny enough I also ordered a Tudor Pepsi (new ivory dial) and that took 4 weeks to come in!!!
did you have any prior purchase history with them?
@@cuanboyz9956 Yes, I had purchased a DJ41 Blue Stick dial on Oyster plus a Tudor Black bay. So 2 watches prior.
I got the call for my DJ a month ago. 36mm, fluted bezel, mint dial, jubilee bracelet. Noted interest for 6 months, only previous purchase was a Black Bay Pro.
I expressed interest on the same 126234 May 2023. Still waiting. I did get a call after 6 months on a Black Explorer II.
@@alexlitner6611 fingers crossed for you, its worth the wait!
Same here. Waited exactly 3 months and picked it up last week! Love it
DJ 36 with fluted bezel / jubilee was available even back in 2021 with minimal to no wait if you contacted enough ADs… now DJ 41 is a different story
It came in 8/1!! Love it!@@bcwlstd6718
That’s the perception but I’m thinking that the reality is somewhat different. Potential buyers are getting the call as others have declined to take up the offer of the watch due to financial pressures. It could also be down to some increase in supply. Either ways it’s a load of hype by Rolex and their cronies.
Its because ADs were selling to the grey market over msrp (yes ADs charge grey market dealers more than msrp which is why grey market/flipppers are ADs preferred customers). Now that economic conditions have changed, grey market no longer wants to take on the risk of buying over msrp, So now ADs are selling that stock to retail customers at msrp.
There are just too many affordable, quality options out there now to be paying all that money for a name. Those other options also don't spend all day sniffing their own farts with their "waiting lists" either.
That’s not how luxury products work, though. That’s not limited to watches - take bags, cars, luggage, etc. Very few people in those markets care about “affordable, quality options.” And, preemptively, the people that spend the most time with those products aren’t waiting (or at least as long) on “lists.”
@@brads1545 🤷🏽 they can have them. Thankfully I guess I don't have so much money that I no longer have any sense.
Christian is 100% right on the Moonswatch, I got the grey if I had the chance I would have gotten the red one
I have the Mission to Mars. I'll sell it to you at RRP
The Swatch looks very cool. I am supporting Swatch as I have a few pieces Swatch watches in my collection. They are fun and enjoyable to wear when I am after work or during weekends. They are amazing beautiful and comfortable watches to wear.
The Cartier looks less like a head scarf and more like an extremely worn-out vulva
the daytona isnt interesting at 30,000 or 20,000...
the chronomaster sport is VERY interesting at 12,000 though. (imo)
maybe im just a sucker for the different colored subdials... hehe
From a value perspective its bang on the zen offers enough value for the price rolex doesnt but from a investment perspective rolex all day everyday
You can get a slider example of the Zenith for $8K now. I have one and it smokes my Rolex 126900 in fit and finish. Never held a Daytona but I’d never pay over retail for one so 🤷♂️
Chronomaster Sport all day, every day imo
Rolex and its customers finally realized that Rolex is the Starbucks of Swiss mechanical watches.
😂😂😂😂 I like Rolex but this was just hilarious
Who's "everybody" and why am I not included? No but seriously I just recently got a call for my 124060 Sub but that was AFTER 2 years+ of waiting with a DJ36 and an Explorer on the purchase history. Now waiting for the 126710BLRO and eventually the white dial Daytona (for retail).
Give the poor 5 yo girl her watch back
I love it
I really like it too, sorry x
😂
@@silvoslaf Are you a 5 yo girl ?
We are talking about the Rolex ?
Christian has excellent taste in watches. My OP 36 green dial is my favorite watch in my collection. It was more difficult to get from my AD than my 126610LV. Cheers!
I couldn’t agree more. My green OP get more positive attention than any other watch in my collection as well. It pops!
I got the call for my yellow gold day date white roman in december. Was very unexpected, then all of my buddies started getting calls on big pieces
I visited the AD 2 weeks ago, got the call yesterday & picked it up today! 😁 without buying anything before at that authorized dealer.
Love it when Americans use Swedish smörgårbord…. Always puts a smile on my face! 😊❤
Good to see dispite being poorly treated Rolex customers still gladly stand in line for one.
Been called by my AD twice this week on watches I am not on the waiting list for to see if I'm interested.
Until subs are collecting dust on shelves, every walk-in is offered a datejust, two-tones don’t sell and PMs go for 20% off - we’re nowhere near back to normal.
Funny , I got the call for a Submariner about month ago after waiting 2 years, the dealer asked, 'do you still want it?" nice to see they have a since humor. good to see that down turn in the Chinese economy finally helped me get a new Subbie
The Rolex AD should play that music over the store's loud speaker when he/she puts the watch on your wrist!
If I can walk into a Rolex AD right now to buy a watch, I'd pick the explorer 36 in SS. Great size, great spec, go anywhere do anything watch!
Currently on the list for one, green or turquoise, no call yet though
Idk. although my local A.D. told me that it did get easier on two-tone or precious metal models. I still cannot get oyster perpetual 41 or AirKing. I texted the other AD and asked her is it even worth for me to keep on texting her periodically. I don’t think she liked it because she never replied to me.
Try another AD if you have one nearby. I also wanted an Air-King and got one last year after less than a week’s wait. They’re out there…
What area are you in if you don't mind me asking?
I love that you guys are "Pro-modding" on Rolex. So many people freak out about modding a Rolex. -Its just a watch.
Rolex thing is definitely true my girlfriends dad literally just walked in to local ad the other day and walked out with the new titanium yacht master same day lol.
🎉
Course he did! 😂
I call BS on That…
@@tangoESPECIAL haha alr mate
Curious why a Rolex made by CNC Equipment is so expensive. The Chinese can make almost perfect copies for $500 only shows how much markup is there. Remember you don't clone a watch, unless it has an inflated retail price.
In the 1970's a rolex was only $400
Strange that manufacturing produces watches much faster now, but Swiss prices have only skyrocketed. Very good marketing must be responsible for these prices.
You are not being a watch when you buy a Rolex, you are buying an over inflated status symbol.
5:08 my man, “gauche” is pronounced with an OH sound, not an AW sound
rolex in stock make sense, my local AD display case is now fully stocked and the 2nd hand shops near by also always have some rolex in stock, still no steel daytona though
I just lived exactly what they were talking about in this video. Walked into the AD locally last week and sorta-joking asked, “what Rolex could I buy today?”….. and he whipped out a new DateJust with an RRP of $13500. Wife and I were split on it; walked out and thought about it……Decided to go back an hour later after some shopping. Sold to the guy who looked at it right after us. Kinda glad as I really want a GMT or Explorer II instead (which I know will not come for years, if ever… but I did decide to put my name on the list after that. Who knows if things are changing?
Explorer II is not impossible.
I got offered a full gold rootbeer and mix metal seadweller
Walked in an AD 3 days ago and got my Explorer 40, it's now my daily instead of my 41 steel Wimbledon.
The Rainbow Daytona is like a magic eye, relaxing your eyes makes it so seamless
Can someone tell me what conversation topics should I use when I go to any AD to know the situation about the Rolex I’m waiting for?
‘Hi. May I please check the status on the piece I asked for x weeks ago.’ Might be worth starting with that! 😂
I went to an AD in toronto, 3 people bought rolexes on the spot! I was like wow they have rolexes in stock here?? there was never anything there for the past 4 years!
Which AD?
Yeah which AD?
@@LYFSTYLco royal de Versailles on bloor! they even had the 36 2 tone explorer in stock! but that was 2 weeks ago
@@Alex_Fung the one on bloor, Versailles! that was 2 weeks ago though when I went.
@@nickgee7291 thanks! I've been there before, I'll have to go again this weekend :)
That's my photo of the OP36 green, glad you like it - it's a great piece 💚
I had my first preference, I wanted the one that looked the most G-Shock, so I got the Mercury.
I work in a watch ad for cheaper brands (longines and such) and I swear I see more Rolex then omegas these days. The standard line stuff really don’t feel that rare and they’re always for sale on marketplace and chrono in Australia. It’s all a fugazi
Yup. I got 2 calls within the same week from different ADs for a Datejust lol...
Although I had doubts about buying a replica watch, gussl dispelled my doubts. The watch has an authentic look and feel.
Rolex fluted motif dial gold. Got the call 🥲😊
That CW&T solid state watch is interesting. You can't change any settings. So half the year it's unwearable due to daylight savings.
Never mind the watches.... where is the striped shirt from please?!?! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
For me, why own a quartz moonswatch when you can own an automatic Omega Speedmaster for not that much more and will hold its value??😮
Because for 99/9% of people a watch it's not about the movement. Also the prices are not comparable.
@@Tomarco70 But apparently they all want a watch that has the Omega name on it or it wouldn’t sell like it has. It’s a name brand mash-up they can afford. It’s the “I can have it now” idea.
@Yorkiepoocharlie lol
Love your videos, guys. Have y’all ever done a video about the JLC sector dial
Master control. It seems like a “illusive” watch to me. I can’t find any online. It’s such a classy watch and would love to know more before I dropped the 7-8k.
I got the call 3 weeks ago for my Explorer 40.....loving it
How long did you wait
He waited 43 yrs
Got the call for my Sub last week, but walked in previously and bought my wife's 34 datejust mint a few months ago
I fucking knew Michael grew up in Cape cod
One thing you guys missed on that Cartier - the Taureg headscarf is the symbol of the Dakar Rally. I think that watch is awesome...but only for Gaston Rahier and his family. On top of that, he won that second year on a bike he had wrecked just before the race, and the repair was so bad (though the best that could be done) that the bike left two tire tracks instead of one when going straight.
Interesting... My first association was a beduin
@@silvoslaf While I'm not going to say Bedouins and Berbers are the same, I will say that to the western world they likely appear the same, so the connection makes sense.
@@TheRacerRich yes, pardon my ignorance, was just speaking out my first associations
@@silvoslaf I didn't mean it that way, I just meant the reason that was your first association is it they wear basically the same garment.
lool the signing of the cross at the beginning killed me
the cartier is base on the the old logo of paris dakar, look good ? no , but is the same as the domino´s rollex
Am I the only one who thinks Christian looks like a thinner Donnie from Wolf of Wall Street? 😂
I got my mint green 36 DJ fluted on jubilée last week after exactly 3 months😃
I just found way more appreciation for the rainbow Daytona. Thanks for that little factoid!
Rolex did a great job with their marketing and making their products limited. But to be honest, I would take an Omega and a Grand Seiko any day. Personally think they are just higher quality and are a better products. But Rolex having their watches more exclusive is what most people want. 🤙🏻
I never managed to watch a full video from these guys. Their snobbish jokes make it impossible. I hope they're better in person.
The Cartier looks like Duff from Guns n' Roses on the original band skulls cross logo
AD has been calling me monthly about stuff like a OP 41 or DJ. I quit taking the calls straight to voicemail.
i got on the list for batgirl, i hope i get the call within a year then.
My arm would be cut off wearing that rainbow Daytona anywhere
Am I crazy I want a gmt master Pepsi on a jubilee over a steel Daytona?
Maybe only from a flipper standpoint. Not crazy at all if it’s the one you want. I’d make the same choice, by the way.
I prefer the gmt also
Crazy. Never understood why a grown man thinks a watch that looks like a Fisher Price toy watch is cool unless you're 6.😂😂😂
@@NaNa-wj8tw Same can be said for a grown man buying a stupid looking sports car that looks like a toy. 😭
The Cheich mirrors the old logo for the Paris-Dakar, so it’s intentionally very literal. The whole point is that it’s a trophy related to winning the race. I do wish the pictures would show off the three gold alloys that are used; in most of them it all just looks yellow, underselling the artistry of the sculpture.
19:33 ooooohhh maaa gaaaawwd.
11:29 hmmm 🤔
I think Christian is trying to tell us something.... 🤔
That he likes "ze cock"? (spoken in French accent)
The cardiac looks like the cloth hung over the cross after jesus Rose
Nah, moonswatch is the coolest one for vacations, I cant get it off my wrist, this summer. M y wife as well (pink). I am gonna get blue and green as soon as I can find them
where is "Everybody"getting calls? it aint NYC thats for shit sure. listed at 5 AD's , zilch. It's why i have a Speedy, Hamilton, Breitling and another Speedy 3861 or the new 600M blue am looking at getting. Like to hear the cities you think call are being made in. Guys are usually spot on, not on this one
i just got the call for a daytona and its only the third watch i purchased from that AD
What swatch is that? Why don’t they give us closeups of the watches?
Last Christmass my parents gifted me the mission to Pluto, and is actually the most dressy and fun of the selection, although a part of me wishes a mission on Earth one
It's still impossible for ADs in Singapore and Malaysia.
"The face of someone who doesn't like me" 😂😂 that was funny
Registered interest in a 36mm black OP March last year - yet to get the call
It's true. Got the call for 41 Wimbledon and I turned it down. Especially because of 32xx movement issues 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Got the Air King in 3 weeks from the NYC boutique. Granted it's one of the less popular models.
No one wants the air king
@@RAJohnson713 I want it. So does Roger Federer.
I have own and I love it !
17:23 You think they should have made the Cartier a Burnett 🤣🤣🤣
Waiting since 10 month on my GMT Sprite still no call 😂 What do you think, how long is the waiting time usually for above mentioned piece 😉
That Cartier is BONKERS! It’s sick, size aside
Intro was amazing 🤣
I got my call from the rolex boutique by London jewelers in Short hills mall. The same boutique they work with. Green dial DJ41
Just got the call for my submariner starbucks. Took me 5 months to get.
I find the Rainbow Daytona garish.
Yes I got a black dial daytona a few weeks back
what was the purchase history like?
I dig the Swatch! I am waiting on a call for a BLRO.
Pro tip to avoid a hangover: drink lots of water
The Swatch executives successfully created hype for the $250 plastic MoonSwatch made by robots. However, when they said they were going to take orders on their website then reneged, I lost interest in the brand. Plus I was not going to drive 2+ hours each way to get to the nearest Swatch Boutique. The good news is I am still a loyal Omega customer, but have no desire to buy from Swatch.
1:16 is what you're here for.
Not me either
The Taureg people are famous for their tonneau shaped shields.
The cartier dakar design in simply based on the old paris dakar logo! Google search a paris dakar 1987 logo for example.
Michael, what watch is that?
I got the call, didn't even ask to be on the list,
Rambling has lost me. I'm off