haha - funny, specially coming from a couple of petit men who get off on wearing 34mm watches and doing curls with 10lb dumbbells. that said - don’t disagree with their judgement. old fat guy with no richard milly
Richard Mille is the exact definition of Nouveaux Riches in watch world. And that’s a good thing, because it draws a clear line between Old Money (non Genta Pateks) and Nouveaux Riches.
I will go with my own favorite unpopular opinion : Genta inspired (non round bezel, integrated bracelets) watches are ugly and should disappear. They are ugly because : 1) Style from the 40’s and the 50’s was 20th century acme. It only went downhill from there 2) they are symbols of the 1970’s (and 80’s) which will be remembered as the time when the Western World had a stroke and never recovered. Nothing to celebrate about.
I was at a wedding wearing a 39mm royal oak. Someone else at the wedding was wearing a modded steel cased casioak. We were talking about the design for a few minutes throughout the wedding and how cool we both thought the shape of the watch was. I admired his casioak and he never noticed that mine was similar but different. Nor did it matter for me to tell him. I like the design of the RO more than the name itself. I thought it was interesting that casio sort of integrated the RO design and that people wearing it have no idea where the design came from. 😃
RM really just is Hublot for people who need an even more expensive gaudy status symbol. Sure, there's a certain amount of impressive technology built into them, but the most important feature of any RM is it's price tag.
I feel like I’m the only person on earth who wants one only because of the engineering and design 😂. It almost turns me off from them, since if I ever did get one, people would all think the only point was to flex. Hublot is trash because they put 200$ movements in $30k watches. But RM design every single part down to the tiniest screws from scratch for every watch, it’s mind blowing IMO.
@@dragus7033 I like richard mille because of tennis, I want one because I like tennis. I hate the current culture around it but I believe its all temporary.
A JLC Polaris looks like a mall watch in the same way that a submariner looks like an invicta , a Patek looks like a DW, or how the Beatles sound like the monkees. Don’t confuse the originals with the copies.
I own and daily wear a JLC Geophysic 1958. It’s simple, minimalistic, and not ostentatious in any way. You could easily confuse that for a ‘mall watch’ in spite of it being a heavy hitter from a horology perspective. Remember, something doesn’t have to be all iced out to be extreme quality
People who make the comment that JLC looks like a mall watch obviously is a newbie to the hobby. They've never held a real handmade timepiece. You could make the same comment about all of Patek dress watches without knowing the quality. Geez there are a lot of ignorant people out there.
A watch collecting cycle is never really complete without a JLC. My next one will therefore be the Reverso Medium Manual. A watch that simply epitomizes class.
Tudor is a consolation prize for those who love Rolex but can’t afford it. It’s a nonsensical brand. If we can’t afford Rolex, there are original brands that have much more value and history than Tudor.
Caffeine isn't worth it. I quit for several months and found that I had more and better overall energy. The convenience is addictive (in addition to the actual addictive qualities). To be able to choose when you don't feel tired, and to be able to displace your need for sleep at times when sleep isn't as much of an option. The effectiveness wears off though, and you are left with less energy overall. I admit that I have found that other people have different experiences and that it is dependent on the person.
I’m autistic and have POTS. I need coffee to get rid of brain fog in the morning and to regulate my bloop pressure. Also high doses of caffeine make me VERY sleepy.
I own a BB P01 and I absolutely love it. It's a legit tank of a watch, and I've never met someone else wearing one. I bump into people wearing a Rolex when I'm wearing my DJ and it boils down to "what dial do you have?..." I love the uniqueness of my P01.
When I was in sales I learned early on not to judge anyone by anything, especially there watch. Once you form an opinion based on something so trivial you have loss all sence of direction .
Some Zenith El Primero models, Heuer Carrera chronos reissues (160 year Ann.) have minimal bezels, which I love. The dome crystal distorting the perimeter is a look I prefer
I agree with most opinions but the RM one. Tbf, at a much lower scale, I personally own and wear a Cartier Tank, a 36mm Explorer 1, and a "CasiOak" depending on what I'm wearing or where I'm going. Who says a person that wear a RM one day can't wear a Daydate 36 the next day and a Santos the next one? I think we are quick to judge a person that wears a RM because they're expensive and very "in your face" watches, but maybe for that person it's just their "fun" summer watch and they have much classier understaded pieces in their collection. Who knows :)
I really shouldn’t like these videos as much as I do. Theo and Harris brand / personality has grown quite a bit over the past few years but still feels genuine.
Ressence has no bezel. Some Sinns have no bezel. If you are making a distinction between case bezel and an internal bezel, AP Code 11.59s have no case bezel (I guess they have an internal one, although I wonder if that is more a rehaut).
With the IWC point, I think this sort of happens with other things outside of watches too. Often the innovator of something doesn’t end up being the most famous, so while an IWC may look like some cheaper design, it’s actually that the cheaper watch took the design from IWC. People see the mall watch first, then the IWC, and assume the order they discovered them in is the same as the order in which they were designed. Very interesting to talk about for sure.
JLC Master Control looks unbelievably expensive in reality. You just realize immediately this is a luxury watch. My own experience when I noticed one on my female bosses arm, was not into watches at all at the time.
Guys, I love Your videos! Can I suggest one thing? Can You move text from Michael face to maybe one of lower corners? I think the difference will be noticible :)
in the years rolex has increasingly become flashy and ostentastious, a watch for soccer players, rappers, boxers, nouveau richies and tastless people (like richard mille, which is born for those peoples). tudor may be boring, but it's catching up with what rolex used to do and to be and what was the basic reason of its success in the past. i say this as a both tudor and rolex collector.
I agree. Prefer the sleekness of the 5 digit models over all of the newer 6 digit and ceramic bezel models (though the ceramic at least adds function / durability). And while the Datejusts still have nice cases and no maxicases, their fluted bezels and jubilée bracelets are just so flashy, that they remind me of jewelry
it is because bronze watches were introduced 12 years back and silver watches are centuries old. but i get it, for you watches dont exist beyond rolex and tudor 🤣
JLC - It’s only when you get up close that you see how razor sharp the finishing is on both dial and movement. I do agree though that some of JLCs dials can be a little boring…the Master Ultra thin in white and blue are worlds apart….the blue dial version is incredible
Personally I only really like the cream dial on the rose gold version of the ultra thin moon. Pertty, because it makes it twice as expensive. Well, the white dial is nice, but beside the cream one, it just lost for me
This channel is the perfect reason why I would never pay for UA-cam premium. Even if you do, you still get minutes of ads half way through your video ..
Which one of you two is the Tudor and who is the Rolex? Incidentally I just today bought a 34mm JLC MUT from 2005, it’s incredible with the exhibition case back and the hand finished ultra thin 849 movement which is another level of amazing. Great vid as always guys, you have such great chemistry. Happy Christmas
Rolex is boring, cliche, and for noobs. Rolex is constantly shoved in our faces especially from UA-cam Channels. Rolex is #1 in marketing spend; don't people get sick of eating the same food over and over again? Yawn fest...
Oh grow up I know alot of Rolex owners that are nothing but humble and are true watch enthusiast. You say you dislike the brand but you probably type this comment all day long. That sounds like envy to me
My favorite part of this discussion was when watches and cars actually DO matter because one's self IS one's brand. A residential real estate agent, for example really does need a nice car and watch to be taken seriously as a top professional. Also, these two hosts NEED to have nice watches and nice clothes to be taken seriously. I took a screenwriting class from one of the writers of Toy Story 2 and he said agents in Hollywood didn't take him seriously as a writer until he started dressing terribly for meetings. The industry's association with successful writers is that they live in sweatpants and don't shave. It's about meeting client's specific expectations of "professional".
I work with teenagers sometimes and it seems RMs are also popular with that crowd. Teenagers want a “Richard Milly”. Not sure if its just because song writers told them so, or they actually like the designs
I understand I’m older and at at a certain level in my life so I don’t have to be as concerned with social standing but I disagree. My advice, don’t buy watches based on what other people think. Doesn’t really matter what “they” think. It matters what YOU think of it and how it makes you feel. That’s how I have built and continue to build out my collection. That’s what I’m handing down to my boys. Hopefully they remember the significance the piece had to me during my lifetime and it brings them enjoyment when they think of me.
I live in Miami, and going to Brickell City Centre I always laugh at RM cuz I just dislike their designs so much. I’m more of a Longines, omega, Tissot guy 😂 but you know what, I’m glad RM exist. They bring diversity to the watch crowd. They have these insane designs, much like Hublot and I’m happy for the variety they have brought into the watch world ❤️ there’s something for everyone and that’s the coolest thing ever to me
No bezel is the only part of the case design of the audemars 11.59 that I don't like.. now since it's lack of bezel is one of the main apsects of the case you are stuck looking at when wearing it is a problem for me.
Take away Tudors strong family ties to Rolex and only a handful of people would even look at them and disappearingly few could ever consider buying them.
Jaeger-Lecoultre is such an underrated brand and this is the hill I will die on. Saying that a cheaper watch could look like a more expensive one and thats why you're not buying it is ridiculous. Knock-offs are a thing for a reason. The mall watch looks like that because of the luxury watch, not the other way around.
Christian Critcised JLC for pricing their watches out of the market when compared to similar brands in the price point. However, how easy is it to say that an item is over priced when we including myself do not stop to question production capacity or volume of the brands we are comparing or their regions where expenses like skills, over heads do differ. Also, other premiums such as brand heritage, hisory of the design etc Even I have to ask myself if when comparing, if I am being fair or emotional?
I disagree with you regarding Tudor, i have more Rolex watches in my collection than any other brand, but i still went for a Tudor especially their full black ceramic and their full bronze watch. Those kind of watches that Rolex will never make. I see them daring trying different materials with super good quality. Im also considering the full Titanium pelagos 39 as well.
Loved this (paraphrasing) - If you don't act like an intern or don't want to be treated like an intern - don't dress like one. That's simple and brilliant!
Tudor boring? Considering that Tudor is the little brother of Rolex; you're basically saying Rolex is boring as well. JLC doesn't look like a Daniel Wellington; Daniel Wellington looks like a JLC. That is indeed the whole reason for Daniel Wellingtons existence. Just like the difference between cheap watches and JLC is in the materials and craftsmanship; the thing that distinguishes Tudor is quality and finishing. It's a difference between subtlety and flash. Could Tudor be successful if they did different things? Well, they tried that; North flag, Aquanaut, Royal, Prince. By and large those watches had little success. The Blackbay might be boring, but it's charm is that honesty.
Have you seen the Hublot classic fusion Singapore watch club special edition? If you were to ever buy one that should be your one and only option. Everything else it's kinda overpriced...
I would say Tudor needs to be more creative in there designs. They dropped the ball in their 58 launch after the blue. They had another opportunity with the Ranger and dropped the ball again. There’s a few watches they should not have releases and then doubled down on creative designs for a few core watches including bezel and dial colors/patterns. Imho.
In all honesty in terms of design there are some mental gymnastics is the watch community, there are a lot of watches from big watchmakers with really meh designs, with mall watch design language. I get that some people really value the mechanical aspect and the history of traditional watch manufacturers, but take those two points away and the whole thing, especially vis a vis fashion watches starts to look very different.
Regarding using a Loupe-mentioning loops exist so we can get a better view of detailing is true. However, if you watch horology content as much as I do, may be you guys do, you will find that watch production even at a very high level such as JLC, Grand Seiko, Patek etc all have flaws here and there and that is either due to the imperfection of hand finishing which is the wabi sabi of watch making. Also, when there are flaws which are due to mass manufacturing or manufacturing in general like JLC and Grand Seiko which is done on a high level, flaws exist also because watch making is not fully perfect. I think it is up to intelligence to view these items closely in order to differentiate between manufacturing flaws vs QC issues.
The Ressence Type 3 and Type 5 don't have bezels. Very inventive. Also, as far as minimalist watches are concerned, the Credor Eichi ll reigns supreme.
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I almost spit my coffee out when you were describing the people who wear Richard Mille, priceless!
haha - funny, specially coming from a couple of petit men who get off on wearing 34mm watches and doing curls with 10lb dumbbells. that said - don’t disagree with their judgement. old fat guy with no richard milly
If they do a best of 2022, that clip should be in it!
Richard Mille is the exact definition of Nouveaux Riches in watch world. And that’s a good thing, because it draws a clear line between Old Money (non Genta Pateks) and Nouveaux Riches.
I will go with my own favorite unpopular opinion : Genta inspired (non round bezel, integrated bracelets) watches are ugly and should disappear.
They are ugly because :
1) Style from the 40’s and the 50’s was 20th century acme. It only went downhill from there
2) they are symbols of the 1970’s (and 80’s) which will be remembered as the time when the Western World had a stroke and never recovered. Nothing to celebrate about.
The People that are complaining about RM wearers are also the one hating on rolex and them owners, because they cant afford or get one.
I was at a wedding wearing a 39mm royal oak. Someone else at the wedding was wearing a modded steel cased casioak. We were talking about the design for a few minutes throughout the wedding and how cool we both thought the shape of the watch was. I admired his casioak and he never noticed that mine was similar but different. Nor did it matter for me to tell him. I like the design of the RO more than the name itself. I thought it was interesting that casio sort of integrated the RO design and that people wearing it have no idea where the design came from. 😃
pure class, my friend!
as much as i like casio, I woulda pointed it out just not to flex but just to educate which i think is fine too
Pretty sure people interested enough are clued up on where the 'casioak' draws design inspiration.
RM really just is Hublot for people who need an even more expensive gaudy status symbol. Sure, there's a certain amount of impressive technology built into them, but the most important feature of any RM is it's price tag.
I feel like I’m the only person on earth who wants one only because of the engineering and design 😂. It almost turns me off from them, since if I ever did get one, people would all think the only point was to flex. Hublot is trash because they put 200$ movements in $30k watches. But RM design every single part down to the tiniest screws from scratch for every watch, it’s mind blowing IMO.
What color is your Bugatti?
@@sultanofmultan2012my Bugatti is red Andrew.
@@dragus7033 I like richard mille because of tennis, I want one because I like tennis. I hate the current culture around it but I believe its all temporary.
just so you know.. you should never do shows without one another.. this is a great duo
Michael's own UA-cam is one of my favourites
@@spa2damax lol I dont even watch it for the contents, I just like this personality
100%
A JLC Polaris looks like a mall watch in the same way that a submariner looks like an invicta , a Patek looks like a DW, or how the Beatles sound like the monkees.
Don’t confuse the originals with the copies.
I own and daily wear a JLC Geophysic 1958. It’s simple, minimalistic, and not ostentatious in any way. You could easily confuse that for a ‘mall watch’ in spite of it being a heavy hitter from a horology perspective. Remember, something doesn’t have to be all iced out to be extreme quality
My daily is a Polaris and the Geophysic 1958 is the next JLC I want to buy, love that watch
That's a beautiful watch. A watch says a lot about one's personality. I prefer subtle substance myself as well.
People who make the comment that JLC looks like a mall watch obviously is a newbie to the hobby. They've never held a real handmade timepiece. You could make the same comment about all of Patek dress watches without knowing the quality. Geez there are a lot of ignorant people out there.
A watch collecting cycle is never really complete without a JLC. My next one will therefore be the Reverso Medium Manual. A watch that simply epitomizes class.
The Grand Seiko SBGA413 also doesnt really have a bezel just a very raised crystal
Bovet and NOMOS are two watchmakers that I can think of with signature watches that have no bezels and some digital watches haven’t any.
junghaus also
Tudor is a consolation prize for those who love Rolex but can’t afford it.
It’s a nonsensical brand. If we can’t afford Rolex, there are original brands that have much more value and history than Tudor.
Caffeine isn't worth it. I quit for several months and found that I had more and better overall energy. The convenience is addictive (in addition to the actual addictive qualities). To be able to choose when you don't feel tired, and to be able to displace your need for sleep at times when sleep isn't as much of an option. The effectiveness wears off though, and you are left with less energy overall. I admit that I have found that other people have different experiences and that it is dependent on the person.
It sounds like you need a cup of coffee.
I’m autistic and have POTS. I need coffee to get rid of brain fog in the morning and to regulate my bloop pressure. Also high doses of caffeine make me VERY sleepy.
@@chojinnppp Really all I'm trying to say here is that I need a cup of coffee.
@@zynetik It makes me tired too when I have too much. That is cool though that you have found a way to make it work for you.
I have came full circle on Theo and Harris, loved it when I first got into watches then didn’t. Now I enjoy the positive energy
I own a BB P01 and I absolutely love it. It's a legit tank of a watch, and I've never met someone else wearing one. I bump into people wearing a Rolex when I'm wearing my DJ and it boils down to "what dial do you have?..."
I love the uniqueness of my P01.
When I was in sales I learned early on not to judge anyone by anything, especially there watch. Once you form an opinion based on something so trivial you have loss all sence of direction .
But I think that having good taste in watches shows that you are an intelligent and thoughtful person.
Grand Seiko Seasons collection is a good example of a watch with no bezel
Thought same. But honestly that case is both classic and unique. I love them.
Another great show guys. Christian that Cartier looks amazing on ya. Pure Classss
What do you think of the bulova curv 2 all grey as the handsome alternative to RM?
Whether an unpopular take or not, here in the UK, this is my favourite watch channel of 2022. Merry Xmas guys…
Some Zenith El Primero models, Heuer Carrera chronos reissues (160 year Ann.) have minimal bezels, which I love. The dome crystal distorting the perimeter is a look I prefer
When Tudor does exciting stuff it's always weird, like the North Flag and and the P-01.
I agree with most opinions but the RM one. Tbf, at a much lower scale, I personally own and wear a Cartier Tank, a 36mm Explorer 1, and a "CasiOak" depending on what I'm wearing or where I'm going. Who says a person that wear a RM one day can't wear a Daydate 36 the next day and a Santos the next one? I think we are quick to judge a person that wears a RM because they're expensive and very "in your face" watches, but maybe for that person it's just their "fun" summer watch and they have much classier understaded pieces in their collection. Who knows :)
Of course your right. They are just making content. You have to read between the lines.
I really shouldn’t like these videos as much as I do. Theo and Harris brand / personality has grown quite a bit over the past few years but still feels genuine.
Ressence has no bezel. Some Sinns have no bezel. If you are making a distinction between case bezel and an internal bezel, AP Code 11.59s have no case bezel (I guess they have an internal one, although I wonder if that is more a rehaut).
With the IWC point, I think this sort of happens with other things outside of watches too. Often the innovator of something doesn’t end up being the most famous, so while an IWC may look like some cheaper design, it’s actually that the cheaper watch took the design from IWC. People see the mall watch first, then the IWC, and assume the order they discovered them in is the same as the order in which they were designed. Very interesting to talk about for sure.
JLC Master Control looks unbelievably expensive in reality. You just realize immediately this is a luxury watch. My own experience when I noticed one on my female bosses arm, was not into watches at all at the time.
Many dress watches don't have bezels. Are bezels required for sports and toll watches?
Guys, I love Your videos! Can I suggest one thing? Can You move text from Michael face to maybe one of lower corners? I think the difference will be noticible :)
No Bezel Watch Examples: Grand Seiko Four Seasons SBGA413 and SBGA415 with 62GS case that has bezel-free construction.
A lot of the cheap/mall watches base their designs on high end brands. Does that make all high end watches "mall watches?"
in the years rolex has increasingly become flashy and ostentastious, a watch for soccer players, rappers, boxers, nouveau richies and tastless people (like richard mille, which is born for those peoples). tudor may be boring, but it's catching up with what rolex used to do and to be and what was the basic reason of its success in the past. i say this as a both tudor and rolex collector.
I agree. Prefer the sleekness of the 5 digit models over all of the newer 6 digit and ceramic bezel models (though the ceramic at least adds function / durability). And while the Datejusts still have nice cases and no maxicases, their fluted bezels and jubilée bracelets are just so flashy, that they remind me of jewelry
Kind of like Steinhart watches
You are describing the path of any successful luxury brand. Your overthinking the overall situation.
@@tyarnold4088 I prefer Grand Seikos. For around 4 grand, you can get a watch that is finished better than most luxury watches.
Watch without a bezel, Jung Hans Max Bill.
Great example! Less is More. When true Bauhaus design is executed…anything is possible 👏
The Grand Seiko 62GS is a good example of watches without a bezel.
Grand Seiko 62GS case has no bezel but it’s beautiful imo
Tudor just introduced watches with silver cases and bronze cases. That doesn’t sound boring to me.
it is because bronze watches were introduced 12 years back and silver watches are centuries old.
but i get it, for you watches dont exist beyond rolex and tudor 🤣
@@doperdr you forgot opened case backs :)
@@elefantrising wow so exciting. never saw such watches.
@@doperdrwhat watch brands do you wear?
@@tyarnold4088 before answering i would like to know why you ask
JLC - It’s only when you get up close that you see how razor sharp the finishing is on both dial and movement. I do agree though that some of JLCs dials can be a little boring…the Master Ultra thin in white and blue are worlds apart….the blue dial version is incredible
so is the black version!
Personally I only really like the cream dial on the rose gold version of the ultra thin moon. Pertty, because it makes it twice as expensive. Well, the white dial is nice, but beside the cream one, it just lost for me
I saw someone wearing a white dial one out at the bar recently, and I thought it looked great.
I made that insta comment!! 😂😂. Was a great convo and cool to hear my comment you boys are the best !
This channel is the perfect reason why I would never pay for UA-cam premium.
Even if you do, you still get minutes of ads half way through your video ..
I liked the old transition music! The one you’re using now is the same that fratello uses
Also, would you say the Nomos club campus has no bezel?
Which one of you two is the Tudor and who is the Rolex?
Incidentally I just today bought a 34mm JLC MUT from 2005, it’s incredible with the exhibition case back and the hand finished ultra thin 849 movement which is another level of amazing.
Great vid as always guys, you have such great chemistry.
Happy Christmas
I’d love to see a design critique of the Nordstrom Rack clearance section.
Rolex is boring, cliche, and for noobs. Rolex is constantly shoved in our faces especially from UA-cam Channels. Rolex is #1 in marketing spend; don't people get sick of eating the same food over and over again? Yawn fest...
This is a controversial opinion but I agree.
Oh grow up I know alot of Rolex owners that are nothing but humble and are true watch enthusiast. You say you dislike the brand but you probably type this comment all day long. That sounds like envy to me
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Not envy, envy is a waste of emotional energy.
My vintage Seiko 6139-8020 Speedtimer doesn’t have a bezel and it’s are why I think it looks so cool.
My favorite part of this discussion was when watches and cars actually DO matter because one's self IS one's brand. A residential real estate agent, for example really does need a nice car and watch to be taken seriously as a top professional. Also, these two hosts NEED to have nice watches and nice clothes to be taken seriously.
I took a screenwriting class from one of the writers of Toy Story 2 and he said agents in Hollywood didn't take him seriously as a writer until he started dressing terribly for meetings. The industry's association with successful writers is that they live in sweatpants and don't shave. It's about meeting client's specific expectations of "professional".
I know you’ve been asked before but is that a Leoville Poyferre bottle behind you?
The first thing I thought of when you said watches with no bezels was Ressence, but I think most all of them look really great.
62 GS Grand Seiko cases (winter, spring, etc.) all have no bezel. They do have a chapter ring however, which king of completes the look.
GS 62GS case design doesn’t have a bezel. Ex is model SBGA413
Ressence has some watches (maybe most/all?) without bezels. It does look a little off but their design integrates better than most others!
You just described the only guy I know personally, who owns multiple RMs, 100% on the nose with that description! 😂
I work with teenagers sometimes and it seems RMs are also popular with that crowd. Teenagers want a “Richard Milly”. Not sure if its just because song writers told them so, or they actually like the designs
If they say "Milly" you know it's cause they heard it in rap.
Timex weekender has no bezel?
The master ultra thin I think is absolutely perfect IDC I love that style
The bezel works as the frame. Like how a picture frame completes a painting, a bezel finishes the watch.
JLC a mall watch? Mall in downtown SF has a rolex AD so...... compliment.
I understand I’m older and at at a certain level in my life so I don’t have to be as concerned with social standing but I disagree. My advice, don’t buy watches based on what other people think. Doesn’t really matter what “they” think. It matters what YOU think of it and how it makes you feel. That’s how I have built and continue to build out my collection. That’s what I’m handing down to my boys. Hopefully they remember the significance the piece had to me during my lifetime and it brings them enjoyment when they think of me.
Meister singer has some models without bezels like the Neo.. .. Looks great!!
@OfficialTheoAndHarris Thx!!
Grand Seikos such as the SBGA413, SBGH271 and others don’t have bezels and look awesome.
Also NOMOS After putting my comment I scrolled down and seen your reply. Great minds think a like
@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 I’m surprised they, of all watch UA-camrs, didn’t think of them
@@docfluty must have been a brain fart lol
Grand Seiko makes watches without bezels. Tag Heuer recently came out with the Glassbox Carrera that doesn't have a bezel.
I live in Miami, and going to Brickell City Centre I always laugh at RM cuz I just dislike their designs so much. I’m more of a Longines, omega, Tissot guy 😂 but you know what, I’m glad RM exist. They bring diversity to the watch crowd. They have these insane designs, much like Hublot and I’m happy for the variety they have brought into the watch world ❤️ there’s something for everyone and that’s the coolest thing ever to me
That commenter must think a G63 is “just a jeep.” 🥴
No bezel is the only part of the case design of the audemars 11.59 that I don't like.. now since it's lack of bezel is one of the main apsects of the case you are stuck looking at when wearing it is a problem for me.
Take away Tudors strong family ties to Rolex and only a handful of people would even look at them and disappearingly few could ever consider buying them.
Check out orient bambino for no bezel watch
Watch without a bezel is e.g. Junghans Chronoghraph or a 3hander in a Bauhaus design with almost all glass and no steel around it.
Junghans Max Bill - No Bezel, does not look weird at all guys (and practically any Bauhaus design watches)
No Bezel would be like NOMOS or Junghans Max Bill ( Bauhaus ) which happens to look amazing as I stare at my Nomos Orion having my morning coffee.
Jaeger-Lecoultre is such an underrated brand and this is the hill I will die on. Saying that a cheaper watch could look like a more expensive one and thats why you're not buying it is ridiculous. Knock-offs are a thing for a reason. The mall watch looks like that because of the luxury watch, not the other way around.
Tudor is a Rolex without the hate
What about the Aqua Terra? That watch looks great without a bezel
"Kind of strong".......you guys got me right there......WOW :)
Christian Critcised JLC for pricing their watches out of the market when compared to similar brands in the price point. However, how easy is it to say that an item is over priced when we including myself do not stop to question production capacity or volume of the brands we are comparing or their regions where expenses like skills, over heads do differ. Also, other premiums such as brand heritage, hisory of the design etc Even I have to ask myself if when comparing, if I am being fair or emotional?
Watch without a bezel: Citizen Nighthawk gen 1. Looks huge and mineral crystal is a scratch magnet.
Junghans Maxbill Chronoscrope is a great looking watch without a bezel
Grand Seiko has watches with no bezel. Four seasons series as an example. CYS Historiador no bezel.
I think excellent examples of round watches without bezels would be most things from Ressence ...
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So many watches without bezels: junghans, some Nomos models, Sinn 556, etc
I disagree with you regarding Tudor, i have more Rolex watches in my collection than any other brand, but i still went for a Tudor especially their full black ceramic and their full bronze watch. Those kind of watches that Rolex will never make. I see them daring trying different materials with super good quality. Im also considering the full Titanium pelagos 39 as well.
Loved this (paraphrasing) - If you don't act like an intern or don't want to be treated like an intern - don't dress like one. That's simple and brilliant!
4:22 it does. It’s thin, but you can see it
Tudor boring? Considering that Tudor is the little brother of Rolex; you're basically saying Rolex is boring as well.
JLC doesn't look like a Daniel Wellington; Daniel Wellington looks like a JLC. That is indeed the whole reason for Daniel Wellingtons existence.
Just like the difference between cheap watches and JLC is in the materials and craftsmanship; the thing that distinguishes Tudor is quality and finishing. It's a difference between subtlety and flash.
Could Tudor be successful if they did different things? Well, they tried that; North flag, Aquanaut, Royal, Prince. By and large those watches had little success. The Blackbay might be boring, but it's charm is that honesty.
Junghans don't really have bezels
Have you seen the Hublot classic fusion Singapore watch club special edition? If you were to ever buy one that should be your one and only option. Everything else it's kinda overpriced...
Grand seiko seasons are great looking watches without bezels
I would say Tudor needs to be more creative in there designs. They dropped the ball in their 58 launch after the blue. They had another opportunity with the Ranger and dropped the ball again. There’s a few watches they should not have releases and then doubled down on creative designs for a few core watches including bezel and dial colors/patterns. Imho.
My Sinn Audi Design Circle Chronograph has no bezel and it's my daily wearer.
In all honesty in terms of design there are some mental gymnastics is the watch community, there are a lot of watches from big watchmakers with really meh designs, with mall watch design language. I get that some people really value the mechanical aspect and the history of traditional watch manufacturers, but take those two points away and the whole thing, especially vis a vis fashion watches starts to look very different.
Wait. Does rolex op have bezel!
Grand seiko sbgh273 has no bezel
The round watch with out a bezel could be a grand seiko sbga 413
Watch without a bezel example: Junghans Max Bill?
For no bezel, what about the AP Code 11.59!
Code 11:59 doesn’t have a bezel, that’s why I never liked it
Grand Seiko 62GS case is without bezel...
The Richard Mille comment was spot on😂
Hamilton khaki pilot pioneer has no bezel... great watch. And many casios!
I think Tudor 1926 has some texture on the dial 😊
Regarding using a Loupe-mentioning loops exist so we can get a better view of detailing is true. However, if you watch horology content as much as I do, may be you guys do, you will find that watch production even at a very high level such as JLC, Grand Seiko, Patek etc all have flaws here and there and that is either due to the imperfection of hand finishing which is the wabi sabi of watch making. Also, when there are flaws which are due to mass manufacturing or manufacturing in general like JLC and Grand Seiko which is done on a high level, flaws exist also because watch making is not fully perfect.
I think it is up to intelligence to view these items closely in order to differentiate between manufacturing flaws vs QC issues.
The 🤡 who made the JLC claim should have all their watches confiscated.
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Absolutely terrible take on the JLC ultra thin. That piece is absolutely class.
The Ressence Type 3 and Type 5 don't have bezels. Very inventive. Also, as far as minimalist watches are concerned, the Credor Eichi ll reigns supreme.